A Trashy Society

There was a recent study of the 50 states that determined that the five freest were North and South Dakota, Tennessee, New Hampshire and Oklahoma; the least free were Rhode Island, Hawaii, New Jersey, California and New York.

The results shouldn’t be too surprising. The freest, after all, tend to be more conservative, the least free are all liberal. That stands to reason when you see how much leftists relish bureaucratic regulations and regularly elect nannies such as California’s Jerry Brown and New York’s Andrew Cuomo and Michael Bloomberg.

It occurred to me that even though I don’t watch Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel and David Letterman, I don’t read the trashy magazines or tune in to “The View” or Ellen DeGeneres, I am all too aware of people like Paris Hilton, Justin Bieber, Lindsay Lohan, Madonna and the 4,000 women known collectively as the Kardashians. It’s as if all this vile protoplasm were floating in the air, and no matter how hard you try, you can’t avoid sucking them in like human smog.

In the old days, movie stars and singers hired publicity agents. They paid good money to get their names and pictures in the press in order to promote their careers and enhance their images. Thus, nymphos, drunks and drug addicts, would be sold to the gullible public as if the next logical step in their lives wouldn’t be Oscars and hit records, but canonization as saints.

One of the few celebrities who was an exception was Frank Sinatra, who paid an expensive flack to keep his name out of the press. Even a guy who liked to play up his connection to Mafia dons didn’t want it to be headline fodder every time he sucker-punched some shrimp or had his thuggish bodyguards put some guy in the hospital.

But how the times have changed! Now every two-bit schnook can’t wait to go on TV and confess all. Instead of seeking atonement through private confession to a priest, these bottom-feeders seek out one of those aging sob sisters, like Barbara Walters, Diane Sawyer or Oprah Winfrey, while 500 pinheads in the studio audience mindlessly applaud, and the viler the confessions, the louder the applause.

Whenever I see someone like Bill O’Reilly get dewy-eyed over Abe Lincoln, I wonder why. I know the 16th president has been passed down to us as a humble log-splitter who was killed during a valiant attempt to end slavery. But that doesn’t quite mesh with the fact that he only freed the slaves in the Confederacy, not those in the Union states. I also know that he didn’t care for black people and urged the freed ones to self-deport to Liberia.

On top of all that, although his fable tells of his walking five miles in the snow to school and five miles home, uphill in both directions, and being a poor, but honest, lawyer, he was in fact constantly running for one political office or another. In the meantime, he served as a very wealthy mouthpiece for the railroad barons, who, in turn, financed his successful run for the presidency.

Then there was also the blatant hypocrisy of his “malice toward none, with charity to all” malarkey, while constantly urging his generals to wage bloody havoc on women and children, burning down homes and farms, all the while waging a war that left 620,000 Americans dead. What’s worse, his overriding motive was to make it possible for the North to continue punishing the South with tariffs that protected the producers of steel and textiles, while ruining those who raised and exported cotton and other farm products.

To me, the greatest of our presidents was without question George Washington. Not only had he commanded the Army that defeated the mighty English forces, but he both rejected the crown and was probably the last president who couldn’t wait to leave the presidency and return home.

George (“First in war, first in peace and first in the hearts of his countrymen”) Washington was to American politics what Babe Ruth was to baseball. Ruth, while with the Boston Red Sox, was one of the greatest pitchers in the game. Then he went to the New York Yankees and became the game’s all-time greatest hitter.

One of the worst results of the Lincoln fable was that, to this day, politicians never stop bragging about how poor they started out. Did even a single day go by in 2012 when Joe Biden or Rick Santorum didn’t remind us of their humble origins? But neither, you may have noticed, bothered mentioning how wealthy they had become in the guise of being public servants.

Another subject of popular fairy tales are Indians, or Native Americans, as they’re referred to in certain effete circles. Although there were some peaceful tribes back in the day, don’t believe anyone who tells you that it was white men who introduced torture and genocide to the noble savages. Many of them even engaged in cannibalism.

These days, they have added something new and shameful to their resume. It’s called disenrollment. That is a process whereby tribal leaders get to decide who does and who doesn’t have a legitimate claim to tribal identity. This outrageous activity owes its origin to the success of Indian casinos.

The way it works is that the fewer members of the tribe, the bigger the payouts to those who survive these purges. What’s more, because the tribal leaders get to make these decisions unilaterally, there can be no appeal to state or federal courts. I guess some people would take heart from the fact that in this way, at least, the Indians have finally learned the ways of the white man.

Finally, although Bob Beckel, who, for some unfathomable reason has become the darling of Fox News, should be commended for being a recovering alcoholic, I have to confess that every time I see him blathering away on “The Five” or “The Factor,” I feel as if I’m being driven to drink.

©2013 Burt Prelutsky. Comments? Write BurtPrelutsky@aol.com.

Author Bio:

Burt Prelutsky, a very nice person once you get to know him, has been a humor columnist for the L.A. Times and a movie critic for Los Angeles magazine. As a freelancer, he has written for the New York Times, Washington Times, TV Guide, Modern Maturity, Emmy, Holiday, American Film, and Sports Illustrated. For television, he has written for Dragnet, McMillan & Wife, MASH, Mary Tyler Moore, Rhoda, Bob Newhart, Family Ties, Dr. Quinn and Diagnosis Murder. In addition, he has written a batch of terrific TV movies. View Burt’s IMDB profile. Talk about being well-rounded, he plays tennis and poker... and rarely cheats at either. He lives in the San Fernando Valley, where he takes his marching orders from a wife named Yvonne and a dog named Angel.
Author website: http://www.burtprelutsky.com/
  • Wheels55

    What was once old is now new – Lincoln seems to be it these days. I have to admit, I am getting tired of hearing about him. Not as tired of hearing about today’s politicians, but a little tired of him.

  • Burt Prelutsky

    Clearly someone left the gate to the pig sty open and Arj and Kansan escaped.

    Burt

  • LennyPincus

    Stick with Dragnet.

  • Burt Prelutsky

    I find it odd that people who revere Lincoln seem to believe that I found out what a fairy tale has been concocted about him from high school. In high school, the narrative is that Lincoln did everything but walk on water. How so many people can turn a blind eye to the unnecessary deaths of 700,000 Americans–especially when the entire population was about 30 million–is beyond me. But that shows the power of 150 years of non-stop propaganda.

    Burt

    • Kansan

      It’s all part of the commie plot, Burt.
      They’re under your bed!
      Eeek!

  • nickshaw

    You can’t be talkin’ like that about Lincoln, Burt!
    Don’t you know you could get yerself kilt? ;-)
    I don’t know what some people have against speaking plainly.
    Lincoln did more to trample on the freedoms of Americans than “freeing the slaves” would ever negate!

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

    Lefties are Nannies? Are they the NANNIES for the healthcare insurers and the defense industry?

    • nickshaw

      Apparently.

  • Royalsfan67

    I have often claimed Lincoln was not the great president people make him out to be. He was a racist, claiming “of course whites are superior to blacks”, he completely ignored states rights, suspended habeus corpus, was responsible for the deaths of 620,000 Americans and the maiming of millions of others.
    Many states had it written into their constitutions they had the right to secede as a condition for joining the union originally, including some states in the north.

    • nickshaw

      I agree but, considering the times, being racist was no big whoop.
      And considering the actions of many blacks in America these days, including some in “leadership” roles, I fear being racist will soon become no big whoop again.
      I know some will consider me racist for suggesting such a thing but, some days I look at the news and wonder why I am not!
      If you get my drift.

      • Royalsfan67

        I do get the drift, and for the most part agree with you. Especially about being racist back then. That was such the expected norm that it was nothing unusual. I just find it funny that people think he was some kind of activist clamoring for equal rights for slaves when it really had nothing to do with that.

  • Kansan

    Tennessee is a paragon of “freedom?”

    Where in the world do you get this excrement, Burt?

    Federal judge sides with Tennessee mosque in time for Ramadan

    July 18, 2012|By Laura J. Nelson

    County officials in Tennessee must inspect a newly built mosque immediately, a federal judge ruled Wednesday, which could allow Muslims to begin worshipping there before Ramadan begins at sundown Thursday.

    Rutherford County must issue an occupancy permit for the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro before Thursday evening, provided that the mosque passes a building inspection, Chief Judge Todd Campbell of U.S. District Court in Nashville ruled. If the mosque does not pass, the judge wrote, the county must let mosque supporters fix any problems, then reinspect it.

    Mosque supporters went to federal court Wednesday seeking a temporary injunction to let worshipers in before Ramadan, a holy month of prayers, fasting and purification. The mosque’s occupancy permits had been stalled by a lawsuit from some of its neighbors.

    The Justice Department filed a separate suit Wednesday, siding with mosque supporters.

    “If the building complies with applicable codes and regulations, the county shall issue, on or before July 19, 2012, the certificate of occupancy for the mosque,” Campbell wrote.

    He said he was granting the injunction because harm to the Islamic center would be “irreparable” if worshipers could not use the mosque, while harm to the county would be minimal.

    The controversy began two years ago when the Islamic community in Murfreesboro started construction on the mosque just outside town. The local planning commission had unanimously approved the building permit.

    The congregation of 300 families had outgrown the mosque they’d used for 30 years, attorneys said. Men squeezed into a 1,200-square-foot room with poor ventilation. Women, who worship separately from men under Islamic law, watched the imam in a converted garage on closed-circuit TV.

    But some neighbors objected to the new center, and harassment began. First came menacing phone calls. Then a construction vehicle caught fire. Someone scrawled “Not welcome” in violet spray paint on a coming-soon sign. A bomb threat in September 2011 resulted in the federal indictment of Javier Alan Correa, 24, who is awaiting trial.

    Opponents sued to block the mosque. Among their contentions: The planning commission did not follow proper procedure; Islam was not a real religion; and its devotees had no 1st Amendment right to religious freedom.

    “It’s pretty clear what was going on,” Hannah Smith, a lawyer with the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, told The Times. “They simply didn’t want this mosque in their town.”

    Smith is representing the mosque, along with local civil rights attorney George Barrett.

    Last month, a local judge of the Chancery Court voided the mosque’s building permits and blocked an occupancy inspection, ruling that the county should have given more notice of the public meeting where officials approved construction because of “tremendous public interest.”

    As Ramadan approached without a solution in sight, mosque supporters went to federal court, contending that the local judge’s ruling violated the Constitution and federal law. In the last seven years, at least 20 churches had been constructed in Murfreesboro without any objection, mosque supporters said.

    “They didn’t want to bring this litigation, but they were forced into it because it is the only way that they can get into their new mosque in time for Ramadan,” Smith said. “It’s unfortunate that they’ve been backed into this corner.”

    County attorneys did not oppose Campbell’s order. Attorneys representing mosque opponents could not be reached for comment Wednesday night.

    Campbell’s temporary order will allow worship inside the mosque for 14 days. It is unclear what will happen after that.

    In the longer term, the Islamic community’s attorneys have filed a complaint in U.S. District Court asking for a permanent injunction against the Chancery Court decision that blocked the occupancy permits.

    Mosque supporters were ecstatic after Campbell’s ruling.

    “The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro is delighted by the judge’s decision,” Ossama Bahloul, imam of the Islamic center, said in a statement. “We look forward to celebrating Ramadan with our neighbors.”

    • It’s almost over

      Kansan, it sounds like Muslims want special treatment and the courts are saying no. The courts are saying that we want to make sure the building is safe for all those worshipers! Isn’t this the Law? Why would anyone oppose this? I know, it’s because of those White Christians!

      Thanks for the post! Are sympathies are with the future terrorists of America!

      • Kansan

        You’re clearly a moron with an exalted opinion of yourself.

        The only reason they’re getting jerked around is because the backward Tennessee mouth breathers are xenophobic. That goes for you, too.

        • It’s almost over

          You are clearly a person who sees the world as unfair. News bulletin Kansan, it always has been and it always will be!

          If and when the Muslims are in control of this country you will see them has the xenophobic radical. If Muslims were running the show in Tenn. a Christian church wouldn’t be permitted. Just look/read at how they treat nonmuslims in countries that are predominately Muslim. Can you see any similarities?

          I don’t know what religion you practice but you better believe in something because you’re falling for everything. Jesus Christ said, either you are for me or you are against me.

          Muslims are against Christianity. They do not believe Jesus is who He said Is, The Son of God. That’s all I need to know!

          They’re the enemy, period!

          • Kansan

            Listen stupid. There was more freedom of religion in Iraq than in most of the Arab world. There was a thriving Christian community, for instance, Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, etc. Now thanks to your fellow moron, Dubya, virtually the entire Christian community became refugees and the Shia and Sunni have been at each others’ throats.
            Jews in Palestine were treated decently for over 1,300 years after the Muslims took control of that land. It wasn’t until the Zionists started arriving not much longer than a century ago that the friction started. There was also a thriving Christian community existing there for almost two thousand years, despite the genocidal Crusades that killed Muslims and Jews alike. Bethlehem, for instance, was a majority Christian town before the Zionists started driving Palestinians out, stealing their homes and land. Until the formation of the state of Israel there was a large and thriving Jewish community in Iran dating back to long before the birth of Christ. There are still many Jews there.
            If you spent as much time learning some actual history as you do pontificating about what isn’t true, you’d be much better off.

      • Kansan

        God, you’re thick.
        The court is saying that civil law can’t be used to harass some people because of their religion.
        The county officials don’t care if the building is safe or not. They just don’t want to give a use permit for a mosque.
        “Are sympathies…” Did you mean “Our…?”
        Have you gone to driver’s ed? Has it ever occurred to you to put your brain into gear before your mouth starts moving?

    • nickshaw

      Though I don’t think I need to defend him, Burt was just citing a recent study. It doesn’t appear he called Tennessee a paragon of freedom at all and I read it twice, though his conclusions, I think, are correct.
      I’m not sure of your beef anyway.
      Are you for or against the mosque?

      • Kansan

        Burt’s problem is that he took a crappy “study” that probably has little relation to reality, to promote an indefensible political point. These sorts of “studies” are ever more prevalent, many funded by the likes of the mega-billionaire faux-libertarian Koch brothers, their drivel pretending to validate their sponsors’ delusions by cherry picking the “researchers” or “pollsters” way through mountains of arguably irrelevant data to concoct fictitious presentations intended to sway public opinion. Simply put, it’s propaganda. That’s the nicest thing I could call it.

        Secondly, I don’t believe in supreme beings. I don’t have any need to go anywhere to worship. However, I am thoroughly devoted to the First Amendment, The government has no business choosing one religion over another or one, or many, over none.. I live in a state where we also have passed a bill against “Sharia Law,” an exercise in racism and theocracy, a solution seeking a problem.,

        This is an enormous distraction from what should be the practice of sound governance.

        • It’s almost over

          Are you saying Sharia Law should be legalized?

          • Kansan

            Less than 2% of people in the U.S. are Muslim. How in the world would they get the law changed? In my state, our legislature pissed away time and money to get a law against recognition of Sharia law, but it didn’t say that. It said that only English common law would set precedents. The problem with that, for instance, is that we have diverged considerably from common law in the last 136 years, and also that the state of Louisiana takes much of its basis from Spanish law and the Napoleonic Code. So theoretically, if a divorce case came up in Kansas between parties who were married in New Orleans, it might present a legal problem. I’d have quite a laugh if someone pleaded that as a basis for challenging jurisdiction in for instance, a child custody case.

  • Kansan

    More “freedom” from Oklahoma.

    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP/CBS Houston) — Anti-abortion lawmakers vowed Wednesday to continue pushing for tighter restrictions in Oklahoma as hundreds of advocates flooded the halls of the state Capitol as part of a rally to urge lawmakers to pass more anti-abortion laws.

    As for those who support the personhood movement, Republican Gov. Mary Fallin joined dozens of members of the House and Senate for a Rose Day rally in the House chamber in which lawmakers touted their anti-abortion credentials to the applause of rose-wielding abortion opponents who packed the House gallery.

    Even as two previous abortion measures approved by the Republican-controlled Oklahoma Legislature remain bogged down amid court challenges, lawmakers this year want to further restrict a woman’s legal right to terminate a pregnancy. Among several bills being considered this year are measures granting “personhood” status to embryos and requiring women seeking an abortion to first listen to the heartbeat of a fetus. Another would prohibit the use of aborted human fetuses in food, despite the Senate author’s concession he’s unaware of any company using such a practice.

    • It’s almost over

      Thank you Kansan, I’m glad to know you’re ‘pro life’. Thanks again for protecting the u born!

      • Kansan

        I am “pro-life.”

        That’s why I opposed Dubya’s illegal and insane invasion and occupation of Iraq. It directly caused the deaths of over 100,000 people, indirectly over a million. It created almost five million refugees. It erased the middle class and exiled the Christian community from one of the few Arab countries where there existed any degree of religious freedom. Bush killed more Americans than Osama bin Laden and spent us into penury.

        I expect you thought it was a good idea.

        • It’s almost over

          O, I thought we were talking about Oklahoma in the U.S.,
          you’re talking Oklahoma in the Middle East. Now I understand.

          Soooooooooooo, who are you blaming for this? Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter? ‘Cause I know you not blaming the best prez ever, Obama? Or are you? Again, I’m confused!

          • Kansan

            I’m guessing that your confusion is incurable.

    • nickshaw

      Again, what’s YOUR position on this subject.

      • Kansan

        My position is that these legislators ought to find useful employment, if it’s within their capacity.

        Their efforts are misogyny embodied in statute. It’s grandstanding. It’s theocracy. They’re practicing medicine without a license.

        • It’s almost over

          They are afforded useful employment, it’s called “work detail”. And you’re assigned to it with good behavior. Inmates are given jobs to produce products at very low cost for the people they’ve terrorized throughout their lives!

          • Kansan

            Two thirds of a million people are arrested every year in this country for smoking or possessing marijuana. My post had nothing to do with prisons, however, and I haven’t had any weedheads terrorize me, ever.
            Are you on drugs yourself? How are you able to misperceive things so consistently?

  • Kansan

    Oklahoma has “freedom?”

    (An Oklahoma Department of Corrections) study explores possible reasons why Oklahoma has the highest rate of female incarceration in the U.S. and analyzes some system and offender characteristics. The rates of crime reported, rates of female arrests, and finally the rates of female incarceration in Oklahoma were compared with the corresponding national rates. It was found that while the reporting and arrest rates in Oklahoma were similar to the national ones, the incarceration rates were much higher. The study then analyzed computerized data on 3,636 female inmates admitted in Oklahoma’s correctional institutions between the years 1988 and 1992 and made some comparisons with the national data. Oklahoma showed a lower rate of violent offenders, but a higher rate of drug offenders. Also, Black women were overrepresented in the prison population.

    Oklahoma’s rate of female incarceration is more than twice the national rate and is increasing every year.

    • It’s almost over

      Wow, thanks again for favoring criminals to be locked up instead of them running the streets and creating more crime! That’s why Ok has the fewest murders! Kansan, you are on a role today! Keep this going. I’m proud of you!

      • Kansan

        Dear Nitwit’s almost ordure,

        I’m on a “role?” Do you have a GED or were you socially promoted?

        Oklahoma has the 13th highest murder rate out of 50 states.
        If you’re having trouble reading simple English, let me suggest this.
        Hold your finger under each word and move it slowly to the right, so you don’t lose your place. You can move your lips as you attempt to read as well, if that helps.

        • It’s almost over

          I’m sorry Kansan, I confused you. My point was, Oklahoma might be in 13 place but they still have fewer murders then any Liberal controlled state in America. Now do you understand?

          Can you google a Liberal state and tell me if one, just one, has less murders then Oklahoma?

          And your point was?

          • Kansan

            You are such a moron!

            The lowest six states all voted for Obama: Iowa, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont and Hawai’i. Oklahoma has about four to five times as many murders, per capita, as those six states.

            Please. Crawl back under your rock and stay there until we need a subject in order to test new anti-psychotic pharmaceuticals.

    • nickshaw

      This means what to us?
      That maybe there are more female offenders in Oklahoma?
      Are they supposed to follow the national numbers like we’re one homogeneous country or something?
      What’s your point?

      • Kansan

        My point is dummies can’t understand the most transparent idiotic and expensive public policies.

        You’re a perfect example of those benighted souls.

        • It’s almost over

          Kansan, could you please quit using those Big words; benighted souls? Would that be the same as someone with a GED? Or someone who’s slow? Or someone who graduated from a Liberal University? Like yourself!

          • Kansan

            Look it up, doofus. You can find the word in a dictionary. It isn’t particularly “big.” You can even put these two words in your browser window, “definition,” and “benighted,” if you can’t manage reading a book.

        • nickshaw

          I’m assuming you’ve been told a number of times today so, it won’t hurt telling you again.
          Sanctimonious twit.

  • Kansan

    Christ, Burt. Are there no depths to which you will not sink?

    The 13th Amendment passed the House on January 31st, 1865 and was signed by the President pro tem of the Senate, the House Speaker and Lincoln. Lincoln was alive when it was ratified because one of those to whom you would be mostly closely affiliated shot him in the back of the head.

    • It’s almost over

      Are you replying to Jesus Christ and Burt? Or just Burt? I’m confused! Can you explain. Because I didn’t see a post from Christ.

      • Kansan

        It’s obvious that it’s impossible to explain anything to a dolt like yourself.

        Maybe if I drew pictures?

  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

    Really, pal? Ya mean those States that sent back stimulus money which would have resulted in a huge amount of cost-effective jobs? the “swing states”, too? the ones where Americans were forced to stand in line 8 hours to vote? Got a reply?

  • LennyPincus

    So would you rather live in Oklahoma or Hawaii? Anyone?

    Your analysis of Lincoln sounds like a 4th grader with an angry, wingnut father. Perhaps read some things on your own before you share your inanity with the world again.

  • Brhurdle

    Thank you! Finally we get some balance to the blind adoration created by O’Reilly (who I believe would glorify a vile person if he thought it would sell books, I have become increasingly doubtful of his ideology since his ego appears to control his logic). I have no doubt that Lincoln’s desire to win the Civil War was motivated more by foiling the Confederacy than humanitarian concerns over slavery. There is no other way to explain the slash and burn tactics utilized by the Union Army that he approved and advocated – it went beyond imposing your will into the realm of punishment.

    • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

      yeah, let’s get all sentimental about the South. Those wonderful plantation folk…who delighted in raping African-American women, forcing the most physically fit men and women to “bond”; separated families, permanently; looked the other way when lynching and burnings went on. When Africans were brought here in chains.

  • http://www.facebook.com/adrian.vance1 Adrian Vance

    Spot on, Bert! “Liberal” is a lie from the gitgo.

    See The Two Minute Conservative at: http://tinyurl.com/7jgh7wv and when you speak ladies will swoon and liberal gentlemen will weep.

    • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

      I’ll take a Lib’ over a Facsist any day.

  • Bruce A.

    Burt. I find nothing trasher than the Kennedys.

    • Ted Crawford

      The Obama’s come readily to mind!

      • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

        wanna explain that statement? You mean because they have two children and have a happy marriage. Both graduated Law School. One became President despite his country being 50% pro-segregation?

        • Ted Crawford

          They do have 2 children, as to how happy their marriage might be ,according to some past employees, is far less certain, and in anycase nothing I care a fig about! They did, appearently graduate Law School, yet neither has a legal license to pratice Law.
          However, Michelle, self-admittedly, had NO respect for this Country untill we foolishly elected her incompentent Husband to the Presidency! And is so overwhelmingly narcissistic that she believes that she knows far better, well…nearly everything, up to and including what we must feed our Children, than do we!Barack’s narcissism exceeds even her own. He believes that he and ONLY he knows how America should be governed! He constantly displays his belief in his own Omniscience, If Congress and the American people decline to give him his way, rather than work with us, he displays the power he holds in the Executive Pen, which he will wield again , within the next few days!

          • Kansan

            Teddy, for God’s sake. I know you’re a wanker, but couldn’t you consider adult education to help deal with your inability to formulate and communicate a coherent thought in the English language?

          • Ted Crawford

            I believe you have far, far less of a problem, fighting your way through my deplorable spelling, sentence structure and verbage, than you do with the truth contained in the post!

      • Kansan

        Don’t any of you cretins understand the proper use of an apostrophe?

    • Kansan

      “Trasher?” Can’t any of you dimwits write a sentence in proper English?
      Ironically, you’re probably one of those “English Only” zealots who object to others speaking different languages in the U.S.

      • Ted Crawford

        It seems that even Queen Gertrude has your number! ” The Lady doth protest too much, methinks”! It’s unfortunate that we seem to be the flawed product of the very Public Education System, you so dearly love, Kansan!
        To our credit, however, we are up to date on Alinsky’s ‘Rules for Radicals’, some of us are even familiar with ‘ Reveille’, Cloward-Pivin’s ‘The Nation’ and Brother John Keynes Economic Philosophy!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joesephcerisano Joe Cerisano

    The seems that the least free are also the most populated.

    • Ted Crawford

      Of course they are, they offer the most entitlements!

      • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

        You talking about the top 5% or the bottom 5%? If you mean, that bedeviled 47%, please leave out Teachers, Fire Fighters, Police; Veterans; Medicare recipients. By the way, what perc. of that “47%” fight the manufactured Wars of the non-entitled?

        • Ted Crawford

          I’m, clearly refering to any who take without ever having given. Those, over 65 on Medicare and Veterans clearly are excepted, as are any Teachers, Police Officers, and Firefighters, Not members of a Public Sector Unions!

          • Kansan

            Most teachers, police officers and firefighters are in public sector unions.

          • Ted Crawford

            And are, therefore a part of the overall problem! It’s not the average, rank-and-file member who is directly responsible, they too are being bilked by the Union Officials!
            Example; The Wisconsin Teachers Union created their own Health Insurance Company, mandated that the Union purchase only their product,and then INFLATED the cost of the Insuance by over 40% !

      • Kansan

        Only in your fevered minds, Joey and Teddy, could you perceive of a state as being “free” despite the fact that it endorses the womb and bedroom police.

        • Ted Crawford

          Where is the consistency, never mind the morality of a civilization(?) that celebrates and even demands public support and financing for the willful destruction of The Human Fetus (Roe V Wade and Planned Parenthood), yet will fine and even imprison someone for the disturbance of a birds egg? 16 U.S. 668 (a), 50 CFR 22 , $5,000 fine, 1 year in prison or MBTA – 50 CFM 21,11, same penelties! A birds egg is no more “viable” than a Human Fetus!

  • ARJ127

    This is yet another trashy article from Prelutsky. Burt, first of all define your terms of reference. What do you mean by “freedom”? Does it mean allowing nut cases to get guns without background checks?

    Second, let’s take a look at the other metrics – health care, infant mortality, educational scores (SAT, etc.). You’ll find that the Red states tend to lag behind the Blue states in those areas.

    • Burt Prelutsky

      ARJ: I wonder why you keep coming back if I keep churning out trashy articles. I think you protest too much.

      Burt

      • ARJ127

        Nice try, Burt. Instead, why didn’t you define your terms? What did you mean by “freedom”? I’m still waiting for an answer on that one. If you opine here or elsewhere, you may expect people to challenge your opinion. I don’t as a rule bother reading you. However, this was a piece so lacking in substance that it shouldn’t go unchallenged.

        • Kansan

          You’re right. When I guessed “Koch” or someone like them, as the propagandists’ paymasters, I was being too conservative.

          As of a few years ago, the Kochs had given $9,674,500 to the Virginia bordello, the Mercatus Center at George Mason U. in about a decade. That’s where this claptrap was exuded.

          Now either Prelutsky is too stupid to know that and to understand that, or he’s being deliberately mendacious.

          Come to think of it, those two answers are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

          • It’s almost over

            You sound like Chris Matthews….and I’m sure you’re proud of it!

    • Ted Crawford

      Continue to support the Progressives and soon you’ll be able to define what you’ve lost without anyone else to help you! As for your Strawman “nut cases to get guns” There is already a law on the books that addresses that issue, The Brady Law. The bill, just defeated in the Senate, had everything to do with “Control” and next to nothing to do with “guns”! Your Uncle Saul is proud of your efforts however Comrade!

      • ARJ127

        Ted

        How do you expect to get guns out of the hands of nut cases unless there are background checks? Granted it won’t be perfect. However, it will make getting guns by these unworthy individuals a little more difficult. To me, that’s a good thing. It has nothing to do with “progressives” or otherwise.

        I still can’t understand how the will of 85% of Americans can be stymied by the NRA with a membership of 4.5 million (or 1.5% of the total American population). What kind of democracy do we have here?

        • It’s almost over

          The reason, because the 85% is a lie! If it were true those senators would have voted YES for the bill…! Get it! And again as Ted post it had nothing to do with back ground checks it was about taking guns away if you took Ativan or any antidepressant. Read the bill AR before you post your comment!

          • ARJ127

            You’re right. It was a lie. The actual support was 92%, not 85%. Go read the Quinnipiac poll done earlier this year. Arguably less than 1.5% of Americans stymied the desire of 92% of Americans for background checks. Here’s the link:

            http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes–centers/polling-institute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1847

            As for “taking guns away” from people who take psycho-active prescription drugs. Yup. They are certified mental health cases. Haven’t you seen enough of them running around with guns shooting people? I have. Maybe, you’re taking some psycho-active meds. Judging from the tone of your post, I wouldn’t be surprised if you do.

          • It’s almost over

            You have no idea what you’re saying. Why, please explain why the Senate voted NO on the bill? Just explain to me why they voted no and then I’ll know if you’re truly in the conversation for the betterment of the 2nd Amendment or your just a Stupid Liberal!

          • ARJ127

            A majority of senators voted yes. Maybe, you missed that 54/100 votes represents a majority everywhere except the Senate. Requiring a 60 vote majority in this case is bogus. Also, maybe you don’t understand how money influences votes. You’re the stupid one if you can’t figure that out.

            I should know better than to argue with idiots.

          • It’s almost over

            So, you’re saying the NRA is funding the Dems to vote NO on the bill. And the Dems said ok…no problem. We’ll vote no!

            Really!!! Or maybe they read the bill and thought it was unconstitutional.

            And 60 voted in the Senate is Constitutional

          • ARJ127

            Show me what in the Constitution requires 60 Senate votes to pass legislation. Meanwhile, It was a bipartisan bill sponsored by a Republican and a Democrat, each with an A rating from NRA. With this, I promise to stop arguing with you. It ain’t worth it.

          • It’s almost over

            It’s good we can banter back and forth without one of us being killed! Lets hope we can continue with our free post and speech!

            Take care AR

            And I do respect your passion for what you believe. I do call you names but its also my passion for what I believe.

            I believe we’ll be posting each other soon.

            Much respect!

          • ARJ127

            That’s OK. We may agree to disagree. That’s what a free democracy should always allow.

          • Kansan

            “Lets?”
            See above for directions to the apostrophe on your keyboard. You found it when you wrote “It’s,” but that was either an accident or you have a very, very, short attention span.

          • Kansan

            If you think the “60 person Senate vote is “Constitutional,” you know less about the document than our noted Constitutional scholar (self-proclaimed) Sarah Palin.
            “…fascist Nazi liberal?” That’s a double oxymoron.
            Being a moron, you should recognize your relative.

          • Kansan

            Dear Dummy,
            The Senate voted YES on the bill. The problem was that their majority was not enough to overcome Republican obstructionism.
            The word “you’re” has an apostrophe in it. You’ll find that on the right side of your keyboard, two rows up from the bottom.

          • Kansan

            I’m more comfortable with people who need them taking prescribed psychoactive drugs than those who do need them but are not taking any at all. It’s the ones who won’t take any, despite being in the worst shape, that really get me nervous.

          • ARJ127

            Who’s going to make sure they stay on their meds? Big Government? BTW, do you know how many people are prescribed meds and when they start to feel better stop taking them. It’s quite common.

        • Ted Crawford

          Once again, ( appearently reading comprehension isn’t taught in Alinsky Schools) Google November 30, 1993! The mechanism for Background checks has been a Law for nearly 20 years!
          The 85%, most actually quote 90%, figure is no more accurate a measure of the American viewpoint, than was Obama’s 40% of guns are sold without Background checks statement! It’s most accurately known as disingenuous rhetoric! ( must be politically correct, dare not call it the LIE that it truly is)

  • artlouis

    I have always wondered about the general buzz that Lincoln was our greatest president. How can anyone award that honor to the one and only president who presided over a civil war? That seems like failure to me. Jackson faced the same problems, and averted civil war.

    • Burt Prelutsky

      art: He looked like a Biblical figure, he was named Abraham and he was assassinated. Apparently, in most quarters, in spite of having the blood of 700,000 Americans on his hand, that’s enough to qualify him for sainthood.

      Burt

      • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

        never should freed them slaves. H*ll, they were still better a-here than over in Africa…

      • Kansan

        Right, Burt. Lincoln dressed up as a reb and fired on Ft. Sumpter. It was just like Hitler’s charade dressing Nazis as Polish cavalry to “attack” the Third Reich.

        Where do you get your “history” from? David Barton? Bob Jones U.?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002489593480 John Probst

      jackson took on the banksters too

      • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

        sure did..that negates what he done to them there savages.

  • RickonhisHarleyJohnson

    I’m sitting here laughing, Burt. You really, no – I mean REALLY – hate Abraham Lincoln, don’t you? It’s doesn’t appear that you’ve studied him beyond the high school textbooks. I’ve studied him my entire life (at least since 6th grade) and have tried to put myself in the mid-1800’s to better understand him. It’s difficult, but must be done. To look at his decisions through non-Civil War 21st century eyes is not enough. Only by placing yourself in his era, through his entire life, can one get even close to understanding the man. This is especially true of his thinking related to slavery.

    I will speak to one comment you make to help you understand. You question why he only freed slaves in the Confederacy and not those in the Union states. In 1862 Lincoln had a war that could still be lost. He could not afford to ‘lose’ the border states to this cause. As for the slaves; he said he would free them all, or free none, or free some; if it meant winning the war.

    Good article, none the less, Burt.

    • Burt Prelutsky

      Rick: Thanks, Rick. I also know that as a lawyer, he once defended a slave; another time, a slave owner. Sounds like a typical lawyer to me.

      Burt

      • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

        connect them dotz, ol’ Burt, connect them dotz!!

    • sjangers

      Over the past five or ten years, bashing Lincoln has become an increasingly popular pastime of denizens of the Right, Rick. Burt appears to be no exception. I suspect it has much to do with Lincoln’s success asserting the power of the central government over the rights of individual states and the growing aversion of conservatives to that concept. The perception of historical figures “evolves” over time, and that change is often directly related to the attitudes of the place and time from which any particular perspective is offered.

      Each of the eight critical assertions that Burt makes about Lincoln in his column and additional posts to this comment section contains a kernel of truth and a substantial element of distortion. Anyone who has put any real effort into studying Lincoln understands that he was a complex individual whose motivations and goals are not always easily categorized. But the general thrust of the man, particularly in the context of his time and place, is that of a person seeking to do good by standards well in advance of his time. Small people who are blinded by the seeming contradiction between his actions as President and their self-serving “universal” values may have trouble with that concept, but there’s little doubt in my mind that Lincoln will be remembered as one of our greatest president, and certainly as one of the greatest men to hold that office, as long as this nation endures.

      • Kansan

        “Burt’s” only his nickname. His given name is “Burtbrain.”

  • http://apostrophejones.com/ Gloves Donahue, Jr.

    I agree with you about George Washington, but I don’t now about Babe Ruth.
    True, he never used steroids. But there weren’t any then.
    Reality TV is the garbage the networks keep putting out and it’s damaging America. Kids watch these awful characters and want to be like them.
    Go back and watch old game shows from the early fifties like What’s My Line or I’ve Got a Secret and you notice how nice people were to each other, how polite. Not any more.

    • Burt Prelutsky

      Gloves: So what’s your beef with Ruth? The only reason Roger Maris got to break his season record for home runs was that the season was eight games longer in 1961 than it was in 1927. The only reason that Aaron broke his career home run record was that he had 4,000 more at-bats, 12,364 to 8,399. And Aaron still only hit 41 more home runs.

      Burt

      • http://apostrophejones.com/ Gloves Donahue, Jr.

        I’m just pointing out that Babe Ruth was known to be an undisciplined guy. He was so far ahead of everyone else at the time that he would have had no reason to bend any rules, so mine was just idle speculation. I’m a big Ruth fan too, although not as big as Jack Webb (Badge 714) was.

      • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

        Really? Gee, I never knew that when Ruth hit 29 he did not have more games to play than the previous record holder.

      • Kansan

        Ruth’s best year was probably 1923, just a few seasons removed from being a pitcher.

        170 walks! Roger’s best year was 94. Babe nearly batted .400. I can’t remember if Maris ever batted .300! Ruth’s on base and slugging percentages were stratospheric.

        • Burt Prelutsky

          Kansan: Maris never batted above .283.

          Burt

  • Jeffreydan

    In terms of importance to their respective fields, Washington & Ruth are a great comparison. For some reason, the first baseball player who comes to my mind when I think of President Washington is Lou Gehrig, though.

    As wrong as he is most of the time, I still give Beckel credit I don’t give most other liberals. One of the left’s symptoms is a paralyzing fear of debating an opponent. It’s a rare liberal who’s willing to spend most of the year debating four of them, even for a nice salary.

    • Burt Prelutsky

      Jeffrey: For a nice salary, you could get a lot of liberals to sit in on “The Five” and “The Factor.” They might not look like a toad, however, which I suppose is what sets Beckel apart from the lamebrains who congregate over at MSNBC.

      Lou Gehrig was a great hitter, although not as great as Ruth. Gehrig took the home run title three times, Ruth captured it 12 times; Ruth even had a higher career batting average, .342 to .340. Plus, as a pitcher, Ruth won 94 games and lost only 46

      Burt

      • Jeffreydan

        I’d say it was Gehrig’s relative disinterest in the limelight, approach to his job, and overall humility he projected that make me think of Washington.

        There is no disputing Ruth’s gaudy numbers. It wasn’t just because of his larger than life profile that his name became synonymous with baseball (at least until Ted Williams came around). ; )>

      • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

        name one “lamebrain” at MSNBC. Name one who could not outdebate Sean Hannity. (well, a “lamebrain” would probably win, handily).

    • http://www.facebook.com/phil.silverman.9 Phil Silverman

      fear of debating? I guess all those “fails” never resulted in winning an election.