And the Biggest Idiot in Iraq Is …

MoronDid you hear the one about the instructor in Iraq who was teaching a class to would-be suicide bombers on how to set off their explosives and kill people?

Ok, here goes:  So he’s showing his students the ins and outs of the business.  He’s teaching them how to detonate a bomb strapped onto their bodies in order to blow up as many innocent civilians as they can – and themselves, of course, because in their minds, they’re doing  it for Allah.

This is where it gets good.  The teacher pulls the trigger to demonstrate precisely how it’s done – you can’t be too careful, don’t you know.  Except he makes one teeny-weeny mistake.  He uses live explosives.  Twenty-one would be-terrorist students and their brilliant teacher … blown to smithereens before any of them could say, “Now let me get this straight:  All I have to do is blow myself up and I get 72 virgins?”

According to the New York Times, an Iraqi merchant who heard the news said he was sorry about the number of deaths.  He wanted more to die, he said.  (Rim shot!)

As the Times put it:  “If there were such a thing, it would probably be rule No. 1 in the teaching manual for instructors of aspiring suicide bombers: Don’t give lessons with live explosives.”

My sources tell me an Iraqi musician famous for his braids and headband, whose name is Willie Abdul, is writing a country song about the incident.  He’s calling it, “Mama don’t let your babies grow up to be suicide bomber instructors – especially if they’re MORONS.”

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  • Rose

    John Daly, I am glad that you finally admitted what many on these boards will not. There is no evidence whatsoever that poor people and other minorities voted for Obama in droves because of welfare, handouts, food stamps, obama phones or anything of that nature. Thank you for being honest. Poor people and minorities voted for Obama because of his policies and programs or for Romney for the same reason. Poor people love their country just as much as rich people do and are perfectly capable of sorting out issues in a rational, unselfish manner. Each individual votes after considering the candidates and making judgments about his character, credibility and policies. People are not duped or fooled or badgered into voting one way or the other. They make assessments, and voters are never wrong. Just because more voters voted for Obama does not mean more voters were wrong. Like the customer, the voter is always right. Any candidate or party that does not make his/her case to the voters does not deserve to win. And the voters whose candidate lost should accept the outcome. It is the American way. Sour grapes and sore losers are really very unAmerican. The Loyal Opposition has turned into the DisLoyal Obstructionists these days.

  • Rose

    There is just something a bit weird about gleefully recounting the details of a bombing gone awry. I am sure you would condemn any Muslim who cheered after the Boston bombings.

  • Rose

    Seems John Daly has decided that my comments must now be moderated. So much for free speech.

  • brickman

    I once heard on Ron Kuby’s old morning radio show (Ron has since replaced Rush Limbaugh on the 12-3 slot on WABC-AM) that the word for virgin and the word for raisin are similar in Arabic. I have read the Koran twice and find that the most prevalent image of Paradise is sitting on a soft couch eating fruit. The joke would be funnier if they got to Paradise and were greeted by the Singing Raisins.

    • Rose

      We all have our views of Heaven. What is yours? And don’t you suppose that our forces have sometimes made mistakes that ended in disaster. Did you see The Hurt Locker or Black Hawk Down? Playing with explosives is a very dangerous business and even experts can make a mistake. So before you laugh too long and hard at the terrorist who blew up his students, think of the fathers who have accidentally shot their sons on hunting trips, the soldiers who have died from friendly fire. After all, even the most wild-eyed suicidal terrorist is convinced that he is right.

      • brickman

        I don’t have a view of Heaven, I’ll leave that to God. The way I may view it will have no effect on what it’s really like, does it? The same way that the terrorist believing that he’s right doesn’t make him right.

        • Independent Cuss

          There’s hundreds of other planets out there maybe thousands or millions. We may just go to another planet when we die. I’ll be ready when my time comes!

          • brickman

            I may not know exactly what’s coming but I don’t think the Mormon paradigm is very likely. That being said, one of my best performances on guitar and voice is Star of the County Down which is music to some Mormon hymn.:-) So I’m ready.

  • Tim Ned

    Yes, this terrorist instructor is performing in las Vegas now. His name is Achmed!

    • Sheila Warner

      Achmed the friendly ghost? Isn’t he dead?

    • http://theromancatholicvote.com/ catholicvoter

      HAHAHA! That’s great!

  • Price Christopher

    22×72=1,584 virgins. Not that many left in the middle east

  • itasara

    There is some controversy as to whether the translating of the Koran for the word for virgins was really raisons. Neither is worth giving or taking a life for. Life is a gift and those who commit suicide to hurt themselves or others must have a screw lose in my opinion.

    • Sheila Warner

      The concept of virginity being virtuous in and of itself is a religious one not limited to Islam. I’m a Christian, a Catholic to be specific, and the mother of Christ is seen as perpetually a virgin. I know the Hebrew scriptures also place a high value on virginity. Of course, we are discussing females. Men weren’t bound by such constraints, and they still are not, even here in 21st century America. Why the value of a woman is based on the presence of a hymen is just beyond me.

      • Brian Fr Langley

        It’s not hard to explain. For most of human history, sexual intercourse = babies. Babies = a vast expenditure of resources. While I know it sounds selfish, men typically don’t like to raise other men’s progeny. Virginity, typically gauranteed (at least the first baby) would be the fathers actual offspring. While today, it’s not politically correct to admit it, men still prefer their wives to maintain sexual fidelity. Again while politically incorrect to admit it, infidelity remains a significant factor in the modern epidemic of divorce and fathers abandoning their children. (which is now around 50% in American families) What the Bible places a high value on, is the rights of children to be raised by their own two parents. (if they live)

        • Sheila Warner

          I’d agree with you except that men have been sleeping around for thousands of years. Lots of babies around. Now, if you refer to inheritance, I might be on board. Men wanted their legal offspring to have the inheritance–except for daughters, of course!

          And, let’s say that a woman was not a virgin at the time of her wedding. If she had other children, wouldn’t that be known? And, if the woman was pregnant at the time of the wedding, and the man wanted her to be a virgin, thus not sleeping with her himself, wouldn’t he know that the baby wasn’t his?

          Sorry, women were treated like property, and still are, in many cultures. Some even resort to female “circumcision” to make sure a woman would never enjoy sex and thus never lose her virginity until her husband broke through the scarring on the wedding night. It’s just pathetic. The premium on virginity goes way beyond children. It’s male hubris, plain and simple.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Male hubris? Tell that to the tens and tens of millions of American babies abandoned by their fathers, and aborted by their mothers. While Islam’s babies are still raised by their fathers and mothers. Hubris? Yours is the only hubris here.

          • Sheila Warner

            Nice use of a red herring here. And, totally off point. I was discussing the view of women as property by many cultures. The American legality of abortion and the reality that some fathers abandon their babies was not the topic. Now, can you comment on what I actually said? Do you deny my assertions? You have read the Bible, right?

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Red herring? Your assertions are as laughable as the bomber in this article. You assert virginity has little if any virtue, and men being simple copulatory beasts, are okay with raising children not their own, (but only wishing to deny them an inheritance). And that men of faith, see women only as chattel. The unfettered historical truth from civilizations far and wide, is simple. Community enforcable contracts, between a consenting man and a consenting woman, prescribing life long monagamy and proscribing adultery, have been around since prehistory. One could argue that marriage (the aforementioned contract) is the very basis of civilization. (before that men just clubbed a woman over the head and took her home, you know, like in the cartoons). Yes some barbaric culltures have treated women like chattel. But let me ask? Can you really say to a 17 year old American girl, raised with no father, raising her first child and pregnant with the second, facing a future of virtually guaranteed poverty, “you’ve come a long way baby”. Again I say, the hubris here is yours, and so is the shame.

          • Sheila Warner

            More red herrings from you!

            “…men being simple copulatory beasts, are okay with raising children not their own…” I didn’t say that. You brought up the issue of men not wanting to raise children other than their own. I pointed out that legitimate children were the heirs. Why else was there such contempt for “bastards”, even when a father supported them? And, you tried to point out that virginity would be a guarantee that a first child would be legitimate. I pointed out that it would be pretty hard for a man to be snookered by a pregnant bride. Either he had slept with her before marriage or not. So, he’d know if the child was his. And, if he managed to get her into the sack ahead of time, especially years ago, chances are he wouldn’t end up marrying her, anyway. Chivalry back then meant he wouldn’t really try to bed her ahead of time, anyway.

            “And that men of faith, see women only as chattel” I never said that. The discussion thread to which I was responding was referring to the virgins promised to Islamic suicide bombers. I merely pointed out that Islam is not the only religion to value virginity. I didn’t say only men of faith view women as chattel. I was also speaking of cultures, both ancient and current, in which this is absolutely true.

            “Community enforcable contracts, between a consenting man and a consenting woman, prescribing life long monagamy and proscribing adultery, have been around since prehistory.” Were we talking about marriage? I was speaking of the high value placed on an intact hymen within many cultures. But, since you brought it up, did you know that during the war in Bosnia, women whose husbands were killed were considered not to be marriage material anymore? Or, women who had been raped?

            “Yes some barbaric culltures have treated women like chattel.” Which is what I said. Both religious and nonreligious cultures have treated women barbarically–and some still do.

            As to the unmarried pregnant teen at the end of your comment, why in the world did you repeat what was not at all relevant to this topic? First of all, my posts were not meant to be feminist (“you’ve come a long way, baby”? really?) I was speaking of cultures that treat women as property and place virginity above everything else regarding women. You do realize, of course, that in some areas of the world, women are stoned for having sex before marriage? And, of course, you jumped right over the whole female genital mutilation issue, where the value of virginity prior to marriage is so high that the women both submit to it and also make their daughters submit, lest they be without a husband. Virginity is absolutely idolized by many.

            Oh, yes, the hubris is not mine. No, indeed. It is yours and yours alone in this one. You must remember to remain on topic if you are going to try to have a real discussion with cogent people.

            If you want to talk about feminism, pregnant teens, abandoned babies, or a whole other host of other topics, stick around. I’m sure there will be blog posts which bring those up, and to which you can pontificate to your heart’s content. In the meantime, if you want to talk to me, stay on point.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            I’m not sure you know what red herring means? The central topic of the discussion was my direct answer to your question. “Why men would value a hymen”? I answered, because they value chastity in their prospective mates. (and still do) I then shed some historical light on why men might value chastity in their prospective (and actual) mates. I then pointed out, the commensurate societal gains in such values (that might explain their longevity)and then deliberately juxtaposed them against values that eschewed them. (that again might explain their longevity)This was to bolster my answer regarding the central discussion, “why men might value a hymen”. The point was direct, and the argument remained central.

          • Sheila Warner

            “The central topic of the discussion was my direct answer to your question.”

            Wrong. The central topic of MY discussion started with this comment by itasara: “There is some controversy as to whether the translating of the Koran for the word for virgins was really raisons. Neither is worth giving or taking a life for. Life is a gift and those who commit suicide to hurt themselves or others must have a screw lose in my opinion.”

            To which I replied: “The concept of virginity being virtuous in and of itself is a religious one not limited to Islam. I’m a Christian, a Catholic to be specific, and the mother of Christ is seen as perpetually a virgin. I know the Hebrew scriptures also place a high value on virginity. Of course, we are discussing females. Men weren’t bound by such constraints, and they still are not, even here in 21st century America. Why the value of a woman is based on the presence of a hymen is just beyond me.”

            We were talking about suicide bombers, their expectations about virgins in the afterlife, whether or not the Qur’an really translated the word “virgin” correctly, and how it is that religious are so hung up on virginity. I found it perplexing that a woman’s intact hymen is seen as her most desirable trait, not “why do men value a hymen”, I was talking about the entire worth of a woman being tied to an intact hymen, not just virginity itself. It’s that virginity is THE measure of a woman’s worth. That’s nuanced, which you don’t seem to get.

            Then you jumped in with men don’t want to raise other men’s children, that single pregnant teens aren’t really liberated, and your thoughts on marriage. None of which were germane to what itasra and I were discussing. None of it.

            Stay on topic if you butt into someone else’s thread. I’m done with this.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Now you just sound foolish.

          • Sheila Warner

            I’m done.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Yes, you said that all ready.

          • Rose

            Does the Fr in your name stand for Father? If so, I am not sure that I would want you hearing my confessions or delivering sermons or instructing my children. You are very argumentative and dismissive of the opinions of others. You also do not sound as if you have that peace that passer hall understanding. Why so unhappy and defensive, or is that part and parcel of the right wing male?

          • Rose

            Very weak reply, Brian. You seem to have a need to dominate women online or perhaps some mommy issues.

          • Rose

            So, are you married, Brian? Any first-hand experience with this topic, or is it all gleaned from anatomy and anthropology classes? Inquiring minds want to know.

          • Rose

            Sheila made some very valid points. Islam permits a man to have up to three wives, if he can provide for them and treat each fairly. Not all Islamic men have three wives but many do. Divorce is easily obtained in many Arab Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia. All a man has to do is say I Divorce You three times, and it is a done deal, and while most men provide for an exWife, a male has no obligation to give her anything but the clothes on her back. He automatically gets custody of the children. But you are correct that Muslims value family.

          • Rose

            You do go on and on, don’t you Brian!

          • Rose

            You know in the days before DNA testing the saying was, “Mama’s baby, Daddy’s maybe.” A father could easily deny paternity to avoid financial obligations and marriage. There was little understanding of genetics, either, and the appearance of a blue-eyed child to two brown-eyed parents caused consternation. Later, people learned about recessive genes, etc. Paternity was very important because property was passed on to the oldest son.

        • Rose

          Hmmm for much of history “babies” equalled help in making a living, especially in agrarian societies, and care of the parents in old age, not necessarily huge expenditures.

        • Rose

          The Bible has many examples of children who were raised by men who were not their biological fathers, the most obvious being Jesus Himself.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Limerick?
    .
    The bomber he waged some Jihad,
    his training though turned out was bad,
    so one of his classes,
    blew off their asses,
    and the emotion I’m feeling not sad.

    • Integrity

      Nice. QED

      • Rose

        I don’t consider the blowing to bits of anyone, even terrorists, amusing. And that is not a limerick. It does not have the proper sequence of syllables in each verse.

        • Rose

          You have a problem, Brian. You like to have the last word. And so do I.

  • Trooth

    About those 72 virgins… the following story is an account by a bumbling terrorist that survived a “near death” experience.

    “I detonated my explosive as instructed and awoke to find a beaconing white light. I followed the light till I beheld in the distance a great ivory and gold gate. As I approached the gate, a rather large group of maidens came into view. Ah, my 72 virgins, no doubt! The maidens beaconed to me with open arms as I hastened to the front gate but I paused before I actually entered. Their complexions, I noticed, was pale, their skin pock marked and riddled with pustular pimples and sores, their hair matted and stringy and I became engulfed in a most unpleasant stench which betrayed a lack of personal hygiene.

    “This” I implored, “is my reward? These wretched vile wenches?” As I turned to bid a hasty retreat, a voice called out after me… “Its not easy finding virgins”.

    • T Ko

      Y’know, I’ll bet that entourage of virgins will go a long way!

      They will likely remain virgins for a very long time, and they will become the reward for a great many idiots.

  • Sheila Warner

    21 fewer suicide bombers. It’s a good thing.

    • Ed

      I’d like to see fewer “Liberal Libertarians”.

      • brickman

        Don’t look.

  • legal eagle

    Nice to see that Bernie gets his news from the New York Times not The New York Post…

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Says the guy who reads neither.

      • T Ko

        But he does look at the pictures though!

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Ah yes. The comic strips. ;)

          • 10579

            BAZINGAH.

    • Stimpy

      Not defending jihadists today? You’ll be slipping down the progressive ranks if you don’t get back in line.

      • legal eagle

        I only defend jihadists if they send me a retainer…

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          It’s the failed presidents that he does the pro bono work for.

          • Sheila Warner

            So, John, what words are condemned? I responded to someone who referred to Lieberman as an a hole with the term @nal orifice (correct spelling at the time) and got blocked. Really?

        • 10579

          Oh so typical of an attorney, they would sell there soul and prosecute an innocent man, knowing that person was innocent just for the payday.

          • Sheila Warner

            The prosecutor is the attorney for the people. If he knowingly tries someone he knows is innocent, he has broken the law and can be disbarred.

            A criminal defense attorney works for both the innocent and the guilty. Every defendant is presumed innocent until convicted. Thus, even when defending a guilty person, the defendant is actually innocent before the law. The only exceptions to this are when defendants plead not guilty for reasons of mental defect, or for self defense. Then, they admit to the crime but plead mitigating circumstances which means they are not responsible. (Help me out here LE).

        • Drew Page

          Some people will do anything for money.

    • 10579

      is that you kennedy?

      • legal eagle

        Kennedy?

        • 10579

          Sorry, Bobby Kennedy!

  • Iklwa

    It would seem that even in this place of extreme hardship
    and sadness, a little humor bubbles to the top now and then.

    Technically, the only guaranteed way for a devout Muslim to
    gain entrance into paradise is to die in Jihad while killing infidels.

    That’s a pretty high bar for most of us Christians to meet
    seeing as how simple belief in the Lord and repentance is all that is required
    for our entry.

    Truth be told, there is probably a special place reserved
    for would be bombers who didn’t quite make the mark.

    Maybe this elite group only gets to watch the successful
    bombers with their virgins.

    Maybe the virgin count is diminished somewhat for the boobs.

    After all, Allah is merciful.

    I must admit I am confused.

    Why on Earth or in Heaven would anyone want a virgin?

    Do the women suicide bombers get virgins too?

    Like I said, it’s a little confusing.

    • T Ko

      It just appears that they received an appropriate reward here on earth at least.

      • Sheila Warner

        Now that I agree with. I’m embarrassed to say that I was glad when it happened. I don’t usually gloat over another’s death, but in this case, they were enemy combatants who got what they deserved, for sure.

        • T Ko

          If God had wanted a different result, then it would have happened. You should be able to say that you are happy that God’s will be done. Amen.

          • Sheila Warner

            I think you give more credit to God than he deserves. He gave us free will, and that is the source of much evil in the world. By the logic of using God’s will for this, then how does one explain the holocaust? God limits himself to what we decide to do.

          • T Ko

            I believe that God created each and everyone of us, and just as sure as He gave life He can take it away.

            Yes, I agree that He allows us free will to act stupidly. I also believe that if He chose to consume this world by fire, plague, or locusts, then that would be because He allowed it to happen.

            In those times when I have chosen to act very stupidly I believe that if He would not have allowed it, then it would not have happened. However, it is God’s will to allow me free will to make my own choices but He is always in control.

          • Sheila Warner

            I had this discussion with my sister, and she ended up yelling at me. This sister rarely, if ever, raises her voice, so it was quite shocking.

            God is not always in control, if you believe in hell. The Bible says that God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. That obviously won’t happen. People will reject God. They have free will. They can thwart their own salvation. Do you think God wills genocide? He “allows” the most evil acts by humans one can think of? He can intervene, but he does not. Why? It’s free will. Just look at the chance he took with Mary. She could have said no to bearing Jesus, but she said yes.

            Our “no”s can definitely thwart God’s plans. He finds a way to work around them, but the “no” still binds his hands in certain circumstances.

          • T Ko

            I am not going to yell, but I do agree with your sister in the statement that God is always in control. It is His design for us that we should make choices according to the path that we choose. Without that freedom of spirit, then we would be noting more than robotic creatures incapable of understanding, expressing, or confirming our love.

            The price for humanity to pay for that kind of freedom is to live in a world where it is possibly that either love is not present, or in the worst-case scenario, evil is present to nearly the same measure and nearly equivalent to the greatest love. To see this exist is a sacrifice that God has made in order to confirm His love for us. I hope you understand that when God sees hate running rampant and evil taking precedence over good, then it is extremely hurtful to Him to see us, His creation, destroy one another.

            But that freedom of man’s will is the ultimate evidence of His love. Each and every one of us has to choose, and if we choose God, then His sacrifice is justified by our return of love to Him.

            I still contend, however, that God is always in control.

            If at all possible, please share this with your sister because I would like to know if she sees this freedom of man’s will as evidence of God’s love.

          • Sheila Warner

            She does. She made those same points. We just see it a bit differently. Mass evil as evidence of God’s love? I don’t agree. But I don’t doubt God’s ability to take something horrible and bring something good from it. Like the suicide bombing instructor that killed himself and those he was training when the bomb blew up on them. However, if my questions about good and evil are still important to me after I die, I will surely discuss this with God.

        • 10579

          Combatants my eye,They are murderers of innocents plain and simple.

          • Sheila Warner

            The two are exclusive? I had no idea.

    • 10579

      is that the reason they need 72 virgins,cause they are them selves in 72 pieces after going Boom.

  • LHS

    Remember that famous line in the movie “Aliens”?
    “Nuke ‘em from orbit; it’s the only way to be sure.”
    Just recalling an old movie, that’s all.

    • Iklwa

      Another line I use all of the time from Tombstone is: “There’s no deal’in with bugs…”

      Another one I live by comes from the original True Grit:

      “Mr. Rat, I have a
      writ here that says you are to stop eating Chen Lee’s cornmeal forthwith. Now,
      It’s a rat writ, writ for a rat, and this is lawful service of same! [to
      Mattie] See? He doesn’t pay any attention to me. [BOOM!, he shoots the
      rat] You can’t serve papers on a rat, baby sister. You either kill him or
      let him be.”

  • Wally C

    I would imagine being a “used car salesman” must be a tough job there also.

    • T Ko

      Unless your middle name is Hussein.

      • Sheila Warner

        The President didn’t pick his own name. Neither did I. If we judge by names only, I doubt he would have had the numbers of white conservative voters he got in 2008 if the name really mattered. I know I didn’t think for one minute that a man with his name could ever be elected. Shame on me.

        • T Ko

          No, not shame on you for voting for someone who was actively engaged in the deception of a nation. This shame rests on his shoulders.

          However, the name–in my opinion–is indicative of his orientation in several key areas. Let it suffice to say that I do not consider him to be the most patriotic of presidents that we have had.

          • Sheila Warner

            What? First of all, I didn’t vote for President Obama in either Presidential election. Secondly, his name is not his choosing, so how could it be indicative of anything other than his parents’ proclivities? I was named for a movie star by my parents. I have no particular love of Hollywood, and rarely go to the movies at all. I just think focusing on the man’s middle name is silly. And, yes, I think many in America are silly, so I believed the President would not win election partly based on his name. Shame on me for misjudging them on that basis. In the end, hatred of President GW was so strong that I doubt any GOP candidate had a chance. When the economy tanks that badly, the incumbent and the party tend to lose big.

          • 10579

            then ,it could be said you did not vote at all.also was there no a large democrat contingent in congress?

          • Sheila Warner

            What? Are you replying to my reply to T Ko? You obviously know nothing about me, because I vote in every election. And, for the record, I voted for GW Bush in both elections because I didn’t like Gore or Kerry. I voted for McCain and Romney because I didn’t think the President had enough experience in ’08, and by 2012 I was proven correct. I was not enthusiastic about GW, McCain, or Romney. I held my nose when I pulled the lever in all three of those elections.

          • 10579

            I feel your pain. I also voted for the same people not because of the party affialation but I was afraid of Obama Kerry,Gore.and they proved me right. The republican party ostricized the only one with any backbone and the will to win,Ms Sarah Palin. And by saying that it should tell you where my voting and politics lie. I am a Bill Buckley conservative and havebeen one for many years.I will vote for the one who supports the Constitution ,The American people and not those who will seek reelection in my state supporting immigration reform. Those politicians support in my estimation criminal s and criminal activity with in our borders This November I will not vote for the Status Quo but for a conservative ,a teapartyier or as stated before a person who cares and supports the Constitution, and American people.BEWARE OF BOTH PARTIES.

          • Sheila Warner

            Oh, and I voted for Bill Clinton. I never vote straight party lines. I split my votes, and, as an independent, I have no skin in the game for either stupid major party. They both stink.

  • Florida Jim

    And we went to battle for these people thinking we could change them and democracy would be a boon for them, how did that work out? We lost many lives and many horrendous injuries and now they still bomb us and mock us and spit on us within years they will be doing it in America thanks to our leadership.

    • 10579

      I don’t understand why any American keeps declareing that we are a democracy when we are not based on any democracy but on a republic.By letting this Government operate as if this nation is a democracy the politicians have compounded the problem with their misunderstanding or failure to read the Constitution and in force it and realizing that there are three (3) branches of government as stops or checks and balances of the branches. I can only wait to vote in Nov 2014 for people who will represent me and not the party line. The party line has not done anything worth reporting at least for me. Both parties have taken more money from me and my family and given it to illegals and people who refuse to better them selves and there family.You are not guarenteed a living wage, an education or anything else in this country but you are guaranteed the opportunity to exercise your right to achieve all you can be. but if you want to sit on your duff you should not be paid for it.And that is where me and Mr Soetro differ.

      • Sheila Warner

        Okay, then, you hate both parties. So do I. In a Presidential election, do you usually vote for a different party, such as the Libertarian candidate? If so, do you see that as a valuable use of your vote, or are you guided merely by principle? If you would vote for either major party, which one would it be? And yes, we all know it’s a Republic, but we refer to it as a democracy because we have free elections. The people get to vote on who will represent them in the Republic. I find the fighting about democracy vs republic boring. As long as the elected officials obey the Constitution, that’s all I care about. Of course, I lived through President Nixon and now I am living through President O, so I find it infuriating when the President defies the Constitution.

  • Anthony Pacicca

    No one ever accused them of having any smarts—

  • Ed

    Too bad, we have reached a period in the USA where I cannot believe one single word that anyone writes or reports. I’ll listen from time to time, but I take it all with a grain of salt. Too many lies and twists to believe anything anymore, The NEWS, and reporters, have become, well, kind of like those commercials where you can save all the cats and dogs for 2 quarters a day…..or a human in Africa…. if you so choose. OK, cute story Bernie, would be nice if it was real……yawn……hmm, let me see what’s for breakfast.

    • Bernie

      It is real, Ed. Sorry to disappoint you.

      • Ed

        THAT is your retort Bernie? to suggest I am disappointed that suicide bombers died? Don’t you find that a bit sophomoric?. Again you embarrassingly miss my point, and by a pathetic long shot. Sorry you lost out on the sensation of my tongue slithering up your ass, I can’t join that popular club. There are some REAL conservatives out there like me who DO NOT blindly walk with all the So-Called conservative talking heads that do nothing but pop out books every 6 months (or even listen to them much anymore), rather we boldly question… EVERYONE. But you said- “It’s true”, so, dammit it must be, huh?

        • Sheila Warner

          Are you really that unable to understand English grammar? The first sentence sets up the second. Bernie advises you that the news report is real. Then he addresses your nonbelief in the veracity of the story by saying he is sorry to disappoint you. He’s not saying anything about how you view the deaths of suicide bombers. He is suggesting that you would be disappointed in the truth of the story.

          You just can’t have a cogent conversation with some people. Oh, and, the story is true. There is video that documents the aftermath. But don’t let your prejudice stop you. Why read any news reports, or blogs, or watch any news online or on tv if you disbelieve everything?

          Just what was your point, exactly?

          • Ed

            Shelia, first of all, every single time I post on here, the first reaction is to call me a liberal or a Commie lover, because, as I just stated, my tongue isn’t firmly up Bernie’s ass, and I don’t fawn all over Sean Hannity (like a school girl) or Bill O’Reilly, any more. Say what you will, but he JUST did it again. YOU are incorrect Madam, he DID suggest I would be disappointed to find out those suicide bombers did in fact die. It is YOU that is reading it incorrectly. And May I suggest, I am glad you were typing your retort, as it would have been pretty hard for you to verbalize your comments with your tongue sticking in his ass.

          • Ed

            And another thing Shelia… i never SAID the story wasn’t true, or even suggested it wasn’t!, what I suggested was- Some of us have a hard time believing ANYTHING the NEWS or ANYONE reports, anymore!, THAT was my POINT Sheila. It’s Sad that it has come to that in this country. Are you suggesting, that Bernie, or Bill, or Sean, or Glenn…..never got a story wrong? or embellished on one? really???

          • Ed

            You said: “He’s not saying anything about how you view the deaths of suicide
            bombers. He is suggesting that you would be disappointed in the truth
            of the story” – You are talking in circles here Madam, it’s no wonder you are a self proclaimed “Liberal Libertarian”….scary thing to admit to.

          • 10579

            don’t try to hide that you are a liberal democrat. You lie just like the rest of them a wipes.

        • Sheila Warner

          Here’s the video (there was other after the fact)

          http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f46_1323816519

        • legal eagle

          You appear to be properly hateful and bitter enough to qualify as a full fledged Conservative ideologue…Bet you Bernie was sorry he responded to you…

          • Ed

            “I am bitter because I don’t blindly believe everything I read?”…. you are a Nut. I subscribe to “believing in only half of what I see and NONE of what I hear”…or READ today. Doesn’t mean I’m calling it a lie, means I’m cautious. Wow, you Fellers sure do Git angry when someones tongue slips out aye? messes up the isometric pressure up there? you all need to put more pressure in to make up for the loss? BTW, Can you guys talk without mentioning Bernie’s name? can you do it? just how many tongues can he fit up there?

          • legal eagle

            You seem to be obsessed with tongues up the butt? Any other techniques you care to share?….LOL

          • Ed

            OH! you are So good!. Wow, Im really impressed at your comeback, damn, that was awesome. Please….do more

          • legal eagle

            Your comments are so irrational that I suggest you audition for a right wing radio show….You make guys like Savage and Limbaugh sound reasonable..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            It’s cute when you pretend to have ever actually listened to Limbaugh. lol.

          • Ed

            More Bumper Sticker slogans….yawn….Duplicate post #1,286,592

          • Ed

            How does it feel to be the biggest A-hole? I guess if nothing else, it keeps you warm. Good Bye….clown.

          • legal eagle

            Perhaps you should stick your tongue up your own A-hole?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Clean it up, legal. You’ve been testing the waters a lot lately. We don’t want to ban you, but we will.

          • Ed

            Love how you post, and While I am replying, you edit it and remove what you said…..tell me I’m wrong here

          • legal eagle

            You are not wrong…It’s called changing one’s mind…LOL

          • Ed

            No, It’s called- lacking confidence in what you had to say….as stupid as it was. (oh, and keep doing the LOL thing…it’s great)

          • legal eagle

            Have you always been this obnoxious or are you just having a bad year?

          • Ed

            You don’t take constructive criticism very well, do you?

          • legal eagle

            My wife would probably agree with that statement…

          • 10579

            when is that that you offer a piece of anything constructive.

          • T Ko

            Ed becomes Guest.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Says the guy who doesn’t consider a story to be legitimate unless it praises Obama. lol.

          • Tim

            Ya, nothing like some trumped up dead guys.

        • 10579

          ah mr guest the truth comes out that u are a liberal suck up.

        • T Ko

          A Cowardly Ed post.

      • D Parri

        You think Ed’s disappointed…well, imagine how those students felt.

    • T Ko

      Hey, Ed, go back to sleep.

      • Ed

        Yeeeeeah…..The “one Liner” isn’t working for you , I’m still standing. You see, the “One Liner” only works for Bernie (here). His brevity keeps the discussion going, and therefore traffic on his board. That’s why you almost never see Bernie retorting more than once to a person, and briefly. You see… Bernie is a “Fisherman”, and You …well….a mere “Fish”, as I am, I might add (Though a different kind of “Fish” , but as the stuffy folk say….I digress). Bernie, as a Fisherman, he tosses out a piece of cereal to you all to scurry and fight for, he certainly isn’t going to give you all the whole box!, just enough to keep you around, waiting for another morsel. This…Ship (Our Country)…. is sinking. Bernie and his ilk will never hit the water, but we, the not so rich and famous, we will hit it, hard. (Technically we “Fish” are IN the water really, swimming in life’s polluted ocean), and the People we made into “Powerball Winners” by buying their books and CD’s and all… they figure, hell….the ship is sinking…why not fill my pockets with gold if it’s going down? Now Gold is heavy, it is, and those folks are eventually going to have to blow out the ballast tanks (so to speak). But they will never fork it ALL over, they will always have enough to stay afloat. WE on the other hand, well, better have a good set of gills, because even though we may agree with our “Talking head Leaders” for the most part, if “This ship goes down”, WE my friend will be trapped in steerage. And this is why sometimes (not always) I have an issue with the folks that are popping out books every 6 months. It just rubs me the wrong way. Anyway….I’m sorry, what was YOUR point?

        • T Ko

          Yeah, and what Bernie gains in brevity, you lose in worthless rhetoric.

          Bloviate on, Windy.

          • Ed

            You know what, maybe you are right, maybe, just maybe… I’m doing it wrong. I should post like all of you folks….. every time Bernie lets out a word, I should be like Kramer’s obnoxious girlfriend on Seinfeld, and just keep repeating- “Ohhh that is GREAT!, really really great!…. Then I will be liked! and I can join your club!

          • T Ko

            Y’know, Ed, I don’t know where your head is…and I don’t wanna’ know. But, get one thing straight right now, I don’t always agree with Bernie, and when I don’t, I let him know.

            However, it ain’t a big long diatribe on the personal chastisement of Bernard Goldberg, commenters to his site, or anyone else.

            Straight, simple…to Bernie. Period.

          • Ed

            Now HERE is one post you SHOULD edit….go ahead… take another whack. I’ll wait.

          • T Ko

            Thanks, but no thanks.

          • Ed

            You chose poorly.

          • T Ko

            So be it.

          • T Ko

            Ed posted this one too.

          • Sheila Warner

            I guess you’ll be waiting for a really long time.

          • T Ko

            Ed posted this one also.

          • 10579

            The truth comes out when you reference liberal thinking sitcom instead of learning what is happening around. But It is true that liberals all live in a false wonder world in where all are equal (I wonder if that includes the leaders like Obama,reid boehner et al.) make the same money or are given a stypen to sustain them. Live on Mr.Ed. you know what he was a horses asp.

          • T Ko

            Ed posted this one.

        • 10579

          Damn i thought that there was a foul smell here and it was you.

  • George Williams

    Actually, the instructor had taken the Legal Eagle correspondence course and this was his first class.

    • 4deuce

      Well played George. Well played.

  • cmacrider

    My information is the “instructor” said “now pay attention class I’m only going to show you how to do this once.”

  • EddieD_Boston

    Between the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber and this idiot Obama was right stating we’re battling the minor league of Islamo-fascism.

  • veeper

    Twenty-one would be-terrorist students and their brilliant teacher … blown to smithereens before any of them could say, “Now let me get this straight: All I have to do is blow myself up and I get 72 virgins?”

    22 blown up at one time…….

    damn, where will they ever find 1584 virgins on the spot…….

    that’s a lot of virgins……

    • Jeff Webb

      >>damn, where will they ever find 1584 virgins on the spot…….<<

      They could start with the VIP line at Comic Con.

  • TheOriginalDonald

    This gun isn’t loaded!-Terry Kath

  • Vance P. Frickey

    Al-Qaeda in Algeria scored what the British call an “own goal” when its biological warfare lab staff died from the nasty bugs they were playing with. Sucks to be them.

  • Vance P. Frickey

    If you can arrange for your enemies to be ignorant twits, life sometimes rewards you with sweet ironies. Unfortunately, there are all too many of the clever kind there.

  • MontanaMade

    Problem is that no one told them all that that 72 virgins were each other…

  • Will Swoboda

    I saw on YouTube an insuergent who couldn’t get the mortor to fire so he drops the round into the tube, waits, then looks into the tube and you guessed, it went off along with his head. Doesn’t get any dumber than that.

    • Vance P. Frickey

      Or any better.

  • Paul Jackson

    Let me get this straight, a bunch of fanatics blow themselves up and your find humor in that? What if a group of Iranian nuclear physicists accidentally blew up the entire Iranian Nuke program and all the workers during a shift change? Would that be funny too? or would it be funnier if group of Wahhabi Schools in were having an inter – School camel race and they all crashed and died? OK my tongue was stuck in cheek. But i got a million of ‘em!

    • gold7406

      I’m waiting for the iranians to have a chernobyl type event.
      the computer bug was supposed to make that happen, but I’m sure they will be able to do that on their own.

      • Vance P. Frickey

        Unfortunately, a Russian RBMK-1000-type graphite-moderated nuclear reactor’s required for Chernobyl, which means it’ll be North Korea and not Iran who gets to do Chernobyl all over again (their reactor in Yongbyon is a more primitive example of the Chernobyl reactors and probably having regular Wigner events about now – the sort of thing that caused the British plutonium production reactor at Windscale to burn up and irradiate the surrounding countryside in 1957).

  • http://blog.cyberquill.com/ Cyberquill

    How do you say “oops” in Arabic?

    • MontanaMade

      “BOOM!”

  • Chuck Goldberg

    Maybe a victim family will retain Gloria Allred to sue somebody for causing workplace violence.

  • Drew Page

    Just when I was thinking there was no justice in the world. Whoop, there it is.

  • gbandy

    Laughter is always good on Saturdays. Thanks Bernie now I can chuckle about a story with a funny ending.

  • Ksp48

    It happens so often among the Palestinians (a bomb goes off “prematurely”) that the Israelis refer to it as a “work incident”. But regardless, the press counts the dead when they give figures on how many Israelis versus how many Palestinians have died. So its win win for the surrounding savages.

  • Jarob54

    “….The lunatic is on the grass, Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs. Got to keep the loonies on the path”…….

  • george w

    The instructors last words to his students. “I’m only going to show you how to do this just one time.”

  • SkyCitizen

    Oh, I’m sorry.. I must have dialed the wrong number.

  • wally12

    Maybe the answer to defeating the radicals is to send them bombs with a statement of “Do not pull this pin.”

    • Vance P. Frickey

      “this grenade is now inert. Once you pull the arming pin from the grenade, it becomes… .ert.” – Private Benjamin

      • lemonfemale

        “Once you pull the pin from Mr. Grenade, he is no longer your friend.”

  • SkyCitizen

    The cell phone detonator was probably triggered by an automated aluminum siding pitch from Peoria.

    • lemonfemale

      One like that actually happened. A Russian suicide bomber was blown up inside her safe house in Russia. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/killer-text-a-russian-suicide-bomber-blows-up-by-accident/8015

      “According to a report by The Daily Telegraph, a text message wishing her a “Happy New Year” was sent to this woman by her mobile phone provider, causing the connected explosive device to detonate.”

      • Vance P. Frickey

        And let’s not forget how the Weather Underground decimated itself, building some really large shrapnel bombs (not the “armed propaganda that never hurt people” Obama’s buddy Bill Ayers lied about) that detonated in the apartment they were making them in, saving the Federal courts the expense of their trial and incarceration.

        • lemonfemale

          I do remember that one. Trivia: the Brits used to send in trucks that would broadcast on all frequencies to trigger any IRA bombs prematurely.

  • ivannavi

    Damn, 1584 less virgins! Perhaps now they’ll have to substitute goats.

    • Vance P. Frickey

      Who’s saying it would be an unwelcome change for some of them?

  • Anthony Ferreira

    Welcome to the Wile E. Coyote School of Suicide Bombing. Don’t forget to sign up for the next in service.

    • MontanaMade

      Stupid Acme- they never get it right!

  • Soul

    It’s an older joke, but makes me laugh. I enjoy the one about the translation error with the 72 virgins. After committing the destructive act, the bomber asks for his reward of 72 virgins. Soon he is told, he will receive his reward. First though he must be told that there was a translation error. The scribe that was told the message by an almighty was old and poor in hearing. The reward isn’t 72 virgins, but a 72 year old virgin, that is to be shared with the other suicide bombers.

    • Drew Page

      They never said the 72 virgins were going to be female.

    • Vance P. Frickey

      My fave martyr points joke is about the suicide bomber who dies, goes to heaven, and finds George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Henry Lee, and 69 other big, husky guys in three-cornered hats and blue coats, who proceed to beat the crap out of him. He stammers “but where are my 72 virgins?” One of the reception committee snarls.. “Oh, yeah. They got that wrong. You get 72 VIRGINIANS,” and the beating resumes.

      • legal eagle

        Did all the guys enjoy being 69′d….LOL

  • Jim Minyard

    For the female suicide bombers, what do they get in lieu of the 72 virgins?

    • SkyCitizen

      More dirty dishes to wash!

    • sandylns

      72 morons who have just blown themselves up.

    • Ksp48

      Another black eye.

  • SkyCitizen

    Got to love those DuraCells, just when you’re sure they’re out of energy they step up to the plate and get the job done!

  • David Gorton

    Thanks Bernie, too much of the news these days is negative! It’s always refreshing to hear an “uplifting” news story!! Pun intended!!!

  • paperpushermj

    Hoping they all where their Best and Brightest.

    • SkyCitizen

      Obviously not.

  • trailbee

    Hey, don’t be so quick to judge. All it takes is one good lesson in what not to do, and they’ve got it. I’m not that excited about the up and coming class.
    They’ll get it right, unfortunately.

    • floridahank

      The guy that skipped the class lucked out.

      • kayakbob

        maybe he tested out of the class.

  • firststater

    Who cares about this. A sorry day we ever got there and a good day when we got out of there. A campaign promise kept

    • Steve

      You missed the well deserved humor. A live demonstration that ended the way all of them should. And the demonstration of just how illiterate most of them are.

    • JASVN67

      Sadly, there is a time and place for war. Question. Would you rather fight them on their soil or on the streets of America. Given the chance they would gladly kill Americans here! Note: Not all Muslims are terrorists, but the ones that are, are hard core dedicated to killing the infidels. Why do I suspect you know this already?

      • Drew Page

        They are already fighting us on the streets of America. By the time we find them it’s too late. They killed more people on 9/11 than were killed at Pearl Harbor and those killed were civilians, not military. They killed more civilians at the Boston Marathon. And despite all of our spying on Americans, gathering their phone, e-mail and Face Book communications we couldn’t apprehend the Tsarnaev brothers, even after the Russians told us they were terrorists. It wasn’t the TSA who found and thwarted the ‘shoe’ bomber and the ‘underwear’ bomber, it was the civilian passengers. For crying out loud, the Army was too afraid of offending Muslims to do anything about the Fort Hood murderer until he actually slaughtered a bunch of our own troops. It’s time to stop worrying about political correctness and start profiling Muslims. concentrate on their phone records, their e-mails and Face book communications and start surveillance on mosques around the country.

        • JASVN67

          To reiterate not all Muslims are terrorists. Recall what our Goverment did to Japanese Americans right after Pearl Harbor only to have to make reparations after the war. A fine line has to be walked even to secure our safety. It is the price we pay to live in a free society. A police state is a slippery slope, look to what the IRS is doing now. Abuse of power is one of the hall marks of a totalitarian regime!

          • Vance P. Frickey

            I agree thoroughly. Obama’s already proven it by his abuse of the IRS (through IRS employee union leaders who’ve been invited to the White House on at least two separate occasions, and managed to keep their jobs while the IRS commissioner – possibly blameless in the entire episode- lost his) to punish his political opposition.

            It may be time for the United States to move toward a system of “Mandarins” as the British call them – senior civil servants who DON’T serve at the pleasure of the President, and can only be removed after a public hearing. I’m sure the commissioner of the IRS would have appreciated his day in court before being dismissed for what someone else did. Does anyone here think he’d have kept his job if he’d actively worked to root out the people who were arbitrarily denying tax exemptions to conservative groups?

          • Drew Page

            I do not believe that rational people think that all Muslims are terrorists. But you have got to admit that the majority of terrorists are Muslims.
            If a crime has been committed and there were witnesses to it, should police be prohibited from asking for a description of the criminal for fear that those fitting that description might be offended for being ‘profiled’? The police could put out an all points bulleting saying that a “human being” entered a 7/11 at the corner of 1st and Main Streets, shot the clerk and ran off. The “human being” was wearing clothes and shoes. Stop and question anyone fitting that description. Being more specific could offend anyone who was male, female, short, tall, fat, thin, obviously of a certain ethnic group, hairy or hairless, tattooed or not, or had any distinguishing features.
            If I fit the description (height, weight, gender, age, hair and skin color) of a criminal that had just committed a crime and was stopped in the general vicinity of the crime, I would not be offended if the police stopped and questioned me. to fail to do that would be ineffective police work.

          • legal eagle

            What exactly is the IRS doing now?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            As in this very moment? lol. You’re a child.

        • Vance P. Frickey

          Since my last reply to this post isn’t showing up after 17 minutes (just dancing dots, no text), let me try again. Major Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter, was kept in active duty months after he said (during a formal presentation at a conference of fellow psychiatrists) that non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats; later, during a talk at Walter Reed, he said that non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire.

          Now, we all know that a non-Muslim who said these same things about Muslims would have been separated from the Army at the speed of light. But they kept Nidal Malik Hasan at his job despite evidence that he harbored hatred which made him less well-adjusted to Army life than anyone he would treat as a psychiatrist. The man was a virulent bigot who was allowed to remain in the Army until his violent nature bore awful fruit at Fort Hood.

          Such is the nature of the current Administration, that it allies itself with the enemies of our people and our allies. We have lost the good will of the Egyptian leadership by withholding arms we’d promised to sell them because they dealt decisively with the Muslim Brotherhood and their would-be tyrannical leader Morsi, whom Obama picked to be the leader of Egypt. Russia lost no time going into Egypt, erasing all that we’ve done to buiid an alliance there since the Camp David accords. Obama’s orders were to avoid characterizing Hasan’s lethal rampage through Fort Hood as a terrorist incident, even though its intent could not have been more clearly terroist. Until Obama leaves office and his party is decisively separated from power, we have only more of this to look forward to.

          • Drew Page

            I wish I could give you a thousand ‘thumbs up’ for this response.

        • SAWB69

          Amen!

    • Tim

      Just because we’re leaving doesn’t mean they’re setting aside their wish to kill us all. Thanks to this administration we’re left toothless in a region where they teach hatred for the west from day one. Don’t think it’s over, the worst is yet to come.

      • firststater

        I don’t buy the wish to kill us all for the reason that I have yet to hear a plausible statement as to where this belief comes from

        • Drew Page

          It comes from the Quran (their Bible) that teaches Muslims that anyone who isn’t Muslim is an infidel, to be either converted or killed.

          • firststater

            American or otherwise?

      • legal eagle

        You’re quite an optimist…..Keep hiding under the bed until your paranoia goes away…

        • Tim

          No I’m a realist.
          All the nice words and deeds will not change their beliefs.
          You can tell yourself whatever you want to make yourself feel good about the situation.
          I’ll take into account their culture and beliefs.
          They will not stop.

        • Tim

          One other thing.
          I don’t hide from anything.

          • legal eagle

            You appear t be hiding from reality….

    • MontanaMade

      Unfortunately it was a promise he never should have made or kept! The region is now so much more unstable- and ever expanding now that there is no one to keep them in check!
      Coming to shore near you soon…

      • firststater

        I am of a belief that the more we get out of their face and their territory the safer we will be. You’ve got to believe it will be sorry day for them should they come ashore here.

        • Vance P. Frickey

          Depends. Many of them are here now, and they have kids. Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia pays for Muslim chaplains in most of our larger prisons. It’s not inconceivable that some Americans – the ones who refuse to assimilate into our culture anyway, and call themselves “oppressed” – would embrace Islam and then fight for it here. Why not? We had the Silver Shirts just before World War 2 practicing fascism and ready to impose it on the rest of us. We even had more than a few Nazis here. And we already have not one, but several violent, well-armed ethnic subcultures in this country grown up around drugs. Going to tell me we don’t ALREADY have a fifth column in the United States dedicated to destroying the nation we have? One of them is our President, with his talk of “fundamental transformation.” He’s a traitor to the Constitution, proven by his public acts and statements, but no one in Congress has the courage to call for his impeachment.

          No, we’re seeing foreign – and hostile – ideas ALREADY hurting Americans on their own soil. It’s naive to think that if THAT’S happening, the Muslims overseas might have as much trouble enslaving us here as you seem to think.

          • firststater

            Nothing here convinces me it was good for America to invade these countries or to hang around and occupy them for years. As for what concerns me about what endagers this soil I believe we would be far better off if the illegal drug trade and its damage were pursued with the same vigor and attention.

  • Rufus T. Firefly

    Islamic bomb maker to class, watch closely, I’m only going to show you this once.

    • floridahank

      We should create In their language, a descriptive brochure on how to make a bomb, with a slight alteration of course, that will indeed make it blow up during the bomb-making process. We can then drop the brochures from a plane over the countryside. See how many stupid terrorists will go for it and make our job easier.

      • Rufus T. Firefly

        Advertise an Instant Paradise Kit, guaranteed to yield better virgins. As used by the prophet.

    • Drew Page

      What goes around, comes around.

  • gold7406

    This incident was the best news we heard out of Iraq in quite a while. The unsettling thing about our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan is the number of troops killed and injured by IED’s. We have the most sophisticated military on the planet and our biggest problem has been caused by the most primitive, rudimentary device available.

    • Vance P. Frickey

      I lost my younger son that way. Actually, the IED that killed him and his squad in their Bradley was the SECOND time they’d had an IED go off under them in three weeks. I still wonder if I did the right thing raising him to revere his country and admire the military, given what the marching morons of the American electorate put into office not three years after he died in their service.

      • gold7406

        Sorry for your loss, your son was heroic and you raised him correctly. He did what he did for the country not for the electorate and the country is honored by his service.
        I was a soldier during viet nam and was devastated like most other veterans when carter granted amnesty to all the cowards that ran to canada and evaded the draft. If there was still a draft today, there would be no progressive movement, women would be excluded from the draft and most progressives would be residing in canada complaining about lousy healthcare.

        • Vance P. Frickey

          We could only hope. But Charles Rangel’s draft would be the one we’d have now, not a rational Selective Service. It would be driven by political progressivism, and seek to punish anyone who didn’t agree with Obama and Rangel’s agenda.

          There’d be “social exemptions” for military service, and perhaps even a domestic, heavily militarized Federal police force for the “socially friendly” elements of the populace to do soft duty in home in, enforcing Obama’s will.

          Obama described just such a force – ““We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded,” in his own words – in July 2008 in a speech in Colorado Springs. The mainstream media elided over Obama’s call for a Gestapo here in the US, but the footage of the speech is all over the Internet – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s for one example on YouTube.

          It’s difficult to explain what Obama plans to do with 2 billion rounds of combat ammunition in the hands of the Homeland Security department, otherwise. I’m just judging the man by his words and by his actions. We might get that draft pretty soon. Have to find jobs for the kids shooting up Chicago somehow, don’t we?

          • legal eagle

            Have you sought help for your paranoia? Tough way to live being so hateful…

          • Vance P. Frickey

            Thought you were a lawyer? Now you’re a psychiatrist, and not much good at either. Of course, the surest sign of someone who’s fresh out of ideas is ad hominem attacks, and we all have had THAT out of you. Somehow I’m unconcerned about your opinion of anything.

            By the way, “paranoid” more aptly describes a President so beloved of his people he feels the need to arm his Homeland Security Department with 2 billion rounds of ammunition to protect him from his adoring public.

          • legal eagle

            My mother once advised me never to argue with paranoia…..Occasionally, I did take her advice, so I will leave the paranoia to those who actively look into their rear view mirrors when driving..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. It’s always entertaining to read a lecture on paranoia from someone who insists that every criticism of our president is due to racism.

          • legal eagle

            My clients pay me well to represent them in legal matters…The psychiatric evaluation is free…LOL

        • Integrity

          I agree. Vance’s son is a hero and he raised him well. My condolences to him and his family. You are a hero as well and I would like to thank you and all of the Vietnam veterans for their service. QED

      • legal eagle

        Sorry for your loss….Are you upset with Bush for lying us into a war of choice or the moronic Americans who voted for Obama?

        • Vance P. Frickey

          Upset with a broken electoral system that gave us no good choices, so all we could do is pick the least bad one. I’d have voted Lieberman in 2000 if he’d been nominated.

          • legal eagle

            Didn’t Lieberman run for V.P. in 2000?

          • Vance P. Frickey

            He ran for the Democratic nomination for President before that. Were you on sabbatical in Tibet then?

          • legal eagle

            I might have had a long weekend in Vegas but I wasn’t in Tibet….LOL

          • legal eagle

            and who took his campaign seriously besides McCain and Lieberman’s family?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            The problem was the guy running at the top of the ticket.

          • Sheila Warner

            I liked Lieberman, too. I hate having to hold my nose while voting, in election after election. Where are the really good candidates hiding? I can’t think of a really good President who has recently been in the White House. Any come to mind for you? Were you a Reagan fan?

          • Ed

            Lieberman is a Boob. Always was. (I know, I’m from CT) he sat on a fence his whole life and licked his finger to see which way the wind was blowing. He would fall on either side, from time to time, but ALWAYS voted the Democrat party line. He would SAY whatever was more politically expedient, and or got his wife a new pair of designer shoes (Don’t believe me? he was a “Democrat”, then a “Independent Democrat”, then something called “Connecticut for Lieberman” party, a couple of times he (VERBALLY!) sided with the Republicans on War, when Israel may be effected but always voted as a Democrat) . I actually voted for the piece of crap to get Lowell Weicker out, that was a mistake I would not make again. He was called “Loserman” for a reason. I will not “settle” ever again. Never. I would rather the ship sink, and rise out of the ashes then take a turn into a slightly smaller iceberg.

            (Quiz: Give me a list of things Lieberman has done for Connecticut in all those many years. I am NOT kidding, I want someone to answer).

          • Sheila Warner

            I’m not from CT so I can’t comment on what Lieberman did or did not do in your state. But, look at 2000. Our “choices” ended up being Bush the younger or Gore. Hardly a good menu. Then, we had to deal with McCain and Romney as the GOP’s nominees. Where are the good candidates? I haven’t seen any for quite some time.

          • Ed

            You would have voted for Lieberman over “W” ?

          • Sheila Warner

            Yep. I saw W as a cowboy.

          • Ed

            and you missed the glaring a hole that is Lieberman? wow….please…do us all a favor and do not vote…please.

          • Sheila Warner

            Hmmmm…..somehow using the word @nal got blocked. Let’s try again. You said Lieberman is an @nal orifice (hope this flies). As I said, I’m not from CT, so I don’t know what Lieberman did to harm your state. Specifics, please, other than sticking his finger into the wind to see where the polls lay? Most politicos do that. And, I did vote for W. Does that mean I now have your permission to vote? sarcasm definitely dripping here. Or are only those voters who agree with your assessments “permitted” to vote? Talk about hubris.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Are you upset with Hillary Clinton for “lying” us into war, legal eagle?

        • Ed

          Legal…You are a fucking asshole! you fucking Moron!. You know damn well what happened in regards to the WMD situation and yet you lie like a dirty dog about it. (And if you don’t know, then you are 10x the fucking asshole I think you are)

          • Sheila Warner

            I didn’t believe there were WMDs lying around, either, much less them being a threat to the US. As I recall, the inspectors were removed before they could issue a report, then we had the Colin Powell dog and pony show. Not all of us were convinced. Are we all f-ing a-holes and f-ing morons? Turns out we were correct, by the way. So who ended up being the deluded? Now look at Iraq. I predicted this would end badly, and I am not happy to be right, but anyone with half a brain could see that it was a mistake to invade Iraq when we had our hands full with Afghanistan. Looks like that will end badly, too, unless the US grows some cajones.

            Never go on a profanity laden rant against people who love our country but had the foresight to see that Iraq was plainly a huge error. How dare you curse us, when we are just as patriotic as you are!

            The fact that we lost so many troops and so many others were maimed for life, is a disgrace. Not to mention the civilian casualties. BTW, my brother fought in the first war, and my niece in the second war. She left a four year old son behind to go to Iraq.

            I come from a long family tradition of military service. It matters a great deal to me when the Commander in Chief sends troops into harm’s way when there is no conclusive reason to do so, and NO exit strategy. What a total waste of blood and treasure!

          • Ed

            For the record, my comment was not removed by me, but by the moderator….. OK, here goes….. Sheila? you are just too awesome. WHY some President didn’t make you their Sectretary of State… I will never know.

          • Sheila Warner

            Did I say your comment was even removed? I saw it, and I responded to it. What’s your point? My point is that you went off on a profanity laden rant against those of us who saw from the beginning that there was no reason to go to war in Iraq in 2003.

            [And, for the record "some President" is singular, so the use of the word "their" is grammatically incorrect, although it seems most people seem to do so. "...Why some President didn't make you HIS Sec of State" is correct. I only resort to pointing this out to people who prove they have a limited vocabulary when they resort to using profanity liberally and belligerently.]

            Love the red herring, though. I never intimated that I was qualified, or even wanted to be, Secretary of State. You, on the other hand? Do you want to ever be Secretary of State? After all, based on your rant, you are the holder of absolute truth on Iraq.

            You just can’t stand a cogent response to what you said. Was I incorrect in the outcome of the war? I was not. The outcome was as I predicted, and I say this with no satisfaction. I wish I had been wrong.

          • Ed

            Nope… I didn’t suggest that you said that “my comment was even removed”, I offered that up as an FYI (as stated). I just chastised Legal Eagle for doing it ON PURPOSE yesterday, so wanted to clear that air.

            OK!

            So you went off on a 2 paragraph insanity laden diatribe over my sarcastic sentence? and even pulled out the old grammar correction card?…. Shelia?, listen to me….life is to short for such nonsense. Which is Why I am shocked that I poked my nose back into this cesspool that is The Bernie & (Too Close for Comfort) Friends. I am going back to my life of photography (which believe me, is MUCH more satisfying than reading any of you, including Bernie).

            So cheers!

            oh! and btw, just a suggestion,,,, I have only known you for a very brief time and I am so glad I was able to get to know your favorite word: Cogent.

            Tip- Get a new favorite word, you’ve already worn it out in just 2 days.

          • Sheila Warner

            I doubt you understand what cogent is. You still avoided my main points. Love how you classify my two paragraphs as insanity laden with no specifics. And, I explained why I brought out the grammar thing. It’s because you are so off topic when you comment, and that is really irritating. So why not throw in the grammar issue? That was not two paragraphs, so I assume you see some other comment as insane.

            Since you don’t like cogent, how about decisive? Or, relevant? Hey, you pick the word. If I repeated it, it is because you just can’t follow a thread properly.

            I hope you have good weather for your photos. Cheers back at you. Too bad we couldn’t have had a substantive discussion about virginity and its cultural contexts.

        • Ed

          You are vermin scum, Legal.

  • Roadmaster

    Hehehehe….. That’s why in the military we always trained with “inert” explosives, painted blue. The ones with “nerts” (green) would get you every time.

    • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

      Do they still do the “live grenade toss” in basic training — the one where you have the experienced drill instructor standing right next to you behind the barrier? He is there, of course, in case the mullet trainee either get nervous and drops the damned thing after ary!pulling the pin, or tries unsuccessfully to “throw” it and instead hits the barrier and the live grenade bounces right back toward him/her? I always thought the instructor’s job at that particular point in “basic” was the toughest non-combat job in the military.

      Come to think of it, having watched Obama attempt to “throw” out the first pitch of the baseball season one or twice, I’ll bet there are plenty of drill instructors who are relieved that he was never in the military!

      • Vance P. Frickey

        The rest of us are just disappointed he never got his turn to do the toss. After all, the drill instructor would have been one life lost, versus the two cops killed by Fast and Furious guns, the four men lost at Benghazi, and all the good men who died in the Af/Pak while Obama twiddled his thumbs and played golf instead of sending Stanley McChrystal the troops and materiel he needed WHEN he needed them.

  • Rogerdodger

    It amazes me that Americans can’t spell. That dumb ass left the ( i ) off the sign he’s holding. He was disgusted with Rick Moranis.

  • Nicholas344

    Another example of George Bush being the cause of all modern evils. In this case his efforts served to delay progressive indoctrination into public education. If progressive indoctrination would have been completed around the world, this incident could never have happened. Modern education would have prevented it. Experts would have been sent to all thee institutions explaining why it defeats ones purpose to use live explosives in these demonstrations. But alas, as long as there are people like George Bush around, people will never truly understand why they shouldn’t use live explosives or question progressive indoctrination. You could be blown up in the process of questioning

    • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

      Gee, you apparently forgot to include a “sarc” tag on the above.

      Either that you are sadly located one or more stages down the intelligence scale from the morons and idiots who volunteer to don suicide vests on behalf of their radical muslim “leaders.”

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Thanks for the warning. And a warning it is. The Koran teaches not to suffer an infidel as a neighbor. This is the underpinning of the millenia and a half Islamic march to world domination. When weak, Islam bides it’s time. When strong it marches. This is the very nature of the faith, and cannot be anything else. So called “moderate” Muslims” are simply apostates, who, as Islam strengthens will change their minds. These are not idle speculations, this is the written history. While the deaths of these folks looks moronic, it should not inspire laughter. Nor should it inspire terror. Rather it should inspire us to “gird our loins, for battle”. For unlike the expert talking heads and media lies about it, there is in our world a GIGANTIC clash of civilizations. Neither Judaism, Christianity, nor secular liberal democracy, are compatible with the ideology, that is Islam. The choice is as simple as the one Sharia law offers? Convert, or War. Islam has already made it’s choice.

    • gold7406

      I think the troops call a moderate muslim, one that is reloading or one that has been neutralized.

      • Vance P. Frickey

        Maybe “moderated” would be a better term…

    • Vance P. Frickey

      Look, I know quite a few Muslims. Most of them are here to work, make good lives for their kids, and in many cases, because they helped us overseas and can’t go home. It makes just as little sense to lump them in with the radicals as it did to discriminate against South Vietnamese who came here because they lost everything at home helping us.

      You can’t just say “Kill them all, God will know his own,” as an infamous bishop said of a city in France equally divided between heretic rebels and good Church members. If there’s any way we can foster and encourage an honestly moderate Islam which we can co-exist with, we ought to be working as hard toward that goal as possible.

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Spoken by someone who has no understanding of Islamic ideology. While they’re in no hurry to convert you while you hold the upperhand. (superior military might) Theirs has always been an ideology of conversion by the sword. While some tolerance for Jews and Christians has been allowed in Muslim lands, it has been only with the payment of special taxes meant to “humble them” (Sharia law) and relegate them to status as second class citizens. The majority of Muslims who come to America today do not come as immigrants, they come as settlers. That is, like the settlers of America, (our forefathers) they neither reject their former culture, or embrace a new one. They bring their own culture fully formed and unchanged. As for murder, I do not support that in any way whatever. What I do know, is that since it’s inception, Islam has marched on the quest of world conquest, though periodically held up by some temporary weakness. When strength is gained, the march is resumed. Islam has declared war on us, (whether we like it or not), pretending otherwise, is as farcically suicidal, as the moronic bombers Bernie writes about in this article.

        • Vance P. Frickey

          Which is why we have a Second Amendment to the Constitution; the most effective defense for our nation is for its citizens to be effectively armed against enemies foreign or domestic.

        • Vance P. Frickey

          Right now, the existential threat to our nation comes from someone foisted off on us at the polls by a conniving press, possibly with some voter fraud thrown in. I don’t know or care what his religion is, only that he wants to rule the nation with “a pen and a phone,” when his job is to enforce the will of Congress.

          Obsessing about Islamic theology has to take a back seat for me to working with others to help avoid a tyranny here at home.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            While I would not call President Obama a Muslim, there are a few things that stand out. His father was a Muslim, ( thus his middle name “Hussein”) His mother married a Muslim when he was very young and spent some of his formative years being raised as one. (in Indonesia). Islam like Marxist-Leninism, is an ideology bent on world domination. These two ideologies support each other fiercely in their implacable hatred of the west. The U.S. administration now includes high ranking folks from both. The mainstream media (your “conniving press”) are either hard core Marxist, (the few) or their stupid dupes. (the many). The milleau from whence Obama springs is Marxist to the core. Do not take the Islamic threat lightly, duplicity remains one of their most potent tools. For a quick look at how fast are it’s inroads into National direction, note the following. Only 2 years ago Iran producing nukes was a red line not to be crossed. Only a few months ago the U.S. was openly supporting Eygptian President Morsi, (he of the Muslim brotherhood), in the last year, Israel is openly expressing their fear of abandonment to a nuclear armed Iran, and the suggestion they move back to pre 1967 borders. The “tyranny” you refer to, has more tentacles than an octopus. Cutting off one is insufficient. The thrust, must be to the head. (metaphorically speaking)

      • chamada

        One of the main tenets of Islam is that it is ok to lie to infidels. So the people you know who are Muslims may be wonderful but if Islam is truly where their heart is you should know that in their mind you will convert or you will die and it is their responsibility as a good Muslim to bring that to fruition. There will be no converting them no matter how “nice” they seem.

      • SAWB69

        I say kill ‘em all and let Allah sort ‘em out!

  • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

    . . . especially if they are morons?

    Huh? I really don’t get that part. It’s a form of “repetitive redundancy.”

    At a minimum they are all morons, or worse (e.g., idiots).

    The advice they are actually adhering to now is, “Mama, don’t let your babies grow up . . .”

  • Paul Courtney

    Bernie: Did hear about it, but not in the NYT. Tell me, did the Times expressly blame Israel and America, or leave that to the reader to surmise?

  • Seattle Sam

    Did you hear the one about the 269 Democrats in Congress who maimed themselves when they discharged Obamacare?

    • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

      @Seattle Sam:disqus Nicely put, and, yes, I did. ObamaCare is actually a form of slow-motion suicide vest, or at least a form of suicide pact for America, one that was initially packaged and sold as a “beneficial” progressive Democrat policy initiative. Well, if it is so beneficial, then how come the President keeps unilaterally (and unconstitutionally) suspending the mandatory “trigger” dates contained therein? We all know the answer to that!

      It is a suicide pact because these jerks “hit” a lot of bystanders as well by invalidating millions of existing policies, including some that were held by a fewl friends and acquaintances of mine. A few of them even used to be nominal Democrats. But not any more! I figure, multiply that observable phenomenon out over the landscape of our Republic, and I cannot help concluding that there are a lot of Democrats who are in really big trouble this fall.

      This disaster called ObamaCare will continue to wreak havoc as the various provisions of this take hold over time. This unrequitting law they so fervently insisted on passing has come back to kick ‘em right where the sun don’t shine!

      • Drew Page@comcast.net

        Well the Democrats sure as hell own Obama Care. It’s actually fun watching all those Democrats who voted this mess into law are now trying to distance themselves from it and from its namesake.
        As bad as it has been so far, Obama Care is only going to get worse, much, much worse. Eventually, the extended mandate for businesses will expire. When it does, more and more employers will discover it is much easier and cheaper to drop their health plans and simply pay the fine. At that point, millions of Americans who were getting good health insurance from their employers, who paid the majority of the cost, will be at the mercy of the Exchanges and the high deductible, expensive Obama Care options in which their current doctors won’t participate.

  • Buzzeroo

    The best part of the story is that the INSTRUCTOR, who never intended to ever even get a scratch on his evil misbegotten body while devoting himself to teaching fools the art of offing themselves along with as many innocent people as possible– got blown to hell—along with his moronic lowlife ‘students’,
    Good riddance to foul rubbish and may they suffer beyond words in hell for a period beginning with eternity.

  • greggsan

    Bernie…. Don’t be so hard on them. Do you know how hard it is to find an EXPERIENCED suicide bomb instructor?

    Actually, it’s easy. They’re all over the place.

    Have a nice weekend. :-)

  • RockyFjord

    This..is..not..journalism..or..anything..like..it….

    • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

      Your comment is not anything like anything useful or instructive.

  • docww

    Enough said. Are there any limits to the number of idiots in this world?

    • Wally C

      Does the re-election of Obama give you an idea of the number of idiots in this country?

      • docww

        Yes it does.

      • Vance P. Frickey

        It sure shows me that voter fraud works amazingly well.

    • Nicholas344

      No doc. There are no limits. Einstein was aware of this universal truth:

      “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.”
      ― Albert Einstein

      • docww

        Nice comment.