Channeling Sherlock Holmes

Arthur Conan Doyle’s greatest creation, the pre-eminent logician and crime solver, Sherlock Holmes was wont to compare the human brain to an attic. It was his belief that the finite space was best employed as a storage bin for those items that would be of use in his work. Thus, at any given time, he might not know the name of the Prime Minister, but he would be able to identify over 150 different types of tobacco.

I’m sure there are those who would argue that the human brain has infinite capacity, but even they would have to acknowledge that life would be a lot easier if, when searching for someone’s name, they didn’t have to rummage through a brain that was cluttered with a lot of names they’d casually tossed into their cranial attics, where they lie and collect dust; the verbal equivalent of torn lampshades, rusted ice skates and Hula Hoops.

The following is my attempt at spring cleaning. So, for openers, let me say that I believe attempted murder should carry the same penalty as first-degree murder. Otherwise, you’re simply rewarding incompetence.

It will come as a surprise to most people that the Pledge of Allegiance was authored by a socialist minister named Francis Bellamy, a cousin of Edward Bellamy, author of “Looking Backward,” a futuristic novel which depicted a socialistic America as Utopia.

When Francis penned the Pledge in 1882, he hoped it would promote public education while denigrating private and parochial schools, which couldn’t be relied on to promote the authority of the federal government.

In the beginning, students were instructed to recite the Pledge with their arms outstretched, palms up, similar to the way Romans had once been required to hail Caesar. The custom was dropped in the 1940s when people realized how similar it was to Germans heiling Hitler.

What Bellamy initially wrote was: “I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” With an eye to the French, he considered including “equality” and “fraternity,” but decided against it, realizing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were opposed to equality for women and blacks.

One of the things that I despise the most about the Pro-Choice groups is the way that Obama, the harpies in NOW and the creepy crew at Planned Parenthood, try to pass off abortions as a women’s health issue. To me, that’s as far-fetched as describing Nazi concentration camps as a German transportation issue.

I am always hearing liberals insist that anything they object to — be it Guantanamo, drone strikes on Islamic terrorists, U.S. presence in the Middle East, military tribunals or our alliance with Israel — are all recruiting tools for Hamas, Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood. Why is it that I never hear them say that the attack on the USS Cole, the taking of hostages by Iran, the attack on our Marine base in Lebanon, 9/11, the safe haven for Osama bin Laden in Pakistan and the Boston massacre, should all be recruiting tools for the good guys?

I’d love to have someone interview Jay Carney’s mother and ask her how she feels about all the sacrifices, all the skimping and saving, required to enable the family to send her son to an Ivy League school, just so he could grow up and lie for a living.

Speaking of he for whom Carney tells whoppers on a daily basis, in his commencement speech at Ohio State, Obama warned the graduating class not to listen to those who tell them the tyrant is just around the corner.

For once, he was right. The tyrant wasn’t lurking in the wings. He was standing at the podium.

Speaking of tyrants, let us all keep in mind that it’s this very same Tea Party-hating IRS that Obama has authorized to oversee and enforce ObamaCare.

While I know that the media and some Democrats have backed the IRS into a corner, Obama, as usual, has tossed a body — in this case the temporary head of the organization who was already two weeks away from being replaced — under the usual bus. So far as Obama is concerned, he’s done all that needed to be done. Now everyone is expected to move along. “Nothing to see here, folks.”

But anyone who believes that the IRS has been buried has never seen one of those horror movies in which zombies crawl out of their graves and start clumping around the neighborhood, looking for human brains, which they crave the way some people hanker after those nice little energy bars.

Although we all realize it’s only a temporary setback, I confess I’m delighted to see those bratty tax collectors for once being scolded and sent to bed without their supper.

For as I’m always saying to Dr. Watson, it’s elementary that even a slightly tarnished silver lining is better than no silver lining at all.

©2013 Burt Prelutsky. Comments? Write BurtPrelutsky@aol.com.

Author Bio:

Burt Prelutsky, a very nice person once you get to know him, has been a humor columnist for the L.A. Times and a movie critic for Los Angeles magazine. As a freelancer, he has written for the New York Times, Washington Times, TV Guide, Modern Maturity, Emmy, Holiday, American Film, and Sports Illustrated. For television, he has written for Dragnet, McMillan & Wife, MASH, Mary Tyler Moore, Rhoda, Bob Newhart, Family Ties, Dr. Quinn and Diagnosis Murder. In addition, he has written a batch of terrific TV movies. View Burt’s IMDB profile. Talk about being well-rounded, he plays tennis and poker... and rarely cheats at either. He lives in the San Fernando Valley, where he takes his marching orders from a wife named Yvonne and a dog named Angel.
Author website: http://www.burtprelutsky.com/
  • plsilverman

    You’re right…56.3% (not 50.0%) of the country believes that a restaurant owner should be allowed to deny a table to African-Americans.>>>show me where I don’t like something call it racially intolerant. That’s a very bold statement for to make? how about being specific? :)

    • Gulliver

      I am curious. Where do you get this stat ? I think you from New England. My father made me pull hay with the black boys. Our common hated was our fathers, not our past. One place I have been in 50 yrs does what you say. In the service, boys from New England, more prejudiced than the South.You strum a common theme, that the South is prejudiced, I wonder, have you ever been here? In any event, your bright. Be open to other points of view. I think, I’m guessing now, I’ve seen more of the world than you.

  • Kewgah

    Nothing is written in stone per-Obama, while the media eats his scraps, and worships the flatulence he expels. His time will come. My sole consolation, is that the media will not write the history books, and that history cannot “polish a turd.” It is what it is. Even Dr. M.L. King’s image as a lech hasn’t gone away, even with all of the wonderful things he had done. What wonderful things has Obama wrought? Be truthful to yourself, and stop trying to justify your voting for the straw man.

    • plsilverman

      is there a “racial” point to be made by mentioning DR. King here? “straw man”!, yeah, the RNC sure got a lot of use with that phrase.
      “His time will come”? sounds a little threatening and will be reported.
      “polish a t*rd” is a surprising expression from such a plished, sophistuicated pundit as yourself. We’ll see, in ’16, with unemployment below 5.5% despite the consolidated efforts (beginning officially on 01-20-09) of the GOP to declare war on the blue collar workforce – or any part of the Obama base. Wonderrful things? don’t you like how he continued Bush II programs like TARP? how about when he extended the Tax Relief for Multi-Millionaires program?. After W. and CIA gave up looking for BL in ’06, are you offended that the Obama adm. got BL (in the spot Obama identifiedin 2008)? Are you bothered that not one drop of American blood was spilled in getting Gadaffi? Are you annoyed that now healthcare insurers cannot deny coverage to a cancer patient for $$$$$ reasons?

      • Jeff Webb

        “His time will come” was referring to how his presidency will be chronicled & studied in the future, P. You’d have to be either semi-limited in reading comprehension or itching to find something inappropriate being said about BO. It’s every bit as desperate as all the racism charges.

        • plsilverman

          back to “racism”? :) pointing out obvious racially charged commentary equals “racism”, pal?>>> I’m ITCHIN’? ha! ever read this site for more than two minutes?…opportunistic is the catchword…any microscopic opportunity to emasculate a man named Barack Obama is seized.

          • Jeff Webb

            My first point was the phrase you reported wasn’t reportable.

            My general point is absolutely valid: you are so desperate to discredit anything and anybody challenging Obama, you see ill intentions that aren’t there.

            I know you’re convinced that many inappropriate things have been said here, and that anyone who doesn’t see it is either blind or biased, but until you confront the “offenders” and they explain what they meant (or quietly ask site management to find out for you), all you’re doing is reaching.

            In all fairness, there is always the possibility you actually do know there hasn’t been anything inappropriate enough to report, and this is just another example of a liberal trying to silence others, but I think it’s the former.

            You should know, you’ve become the boy who cried wolf around here.

          • plsilverman

            really? “boy who cried wolf”? about “the alphalfa and the omega”, and many, many posts which do not get deleted? yes, a lot of site editorials to me are just race-baiting..and if U feel I’m being subjective with those, ok, fine, let’s go point by point.
            your post above is very vague, very rambling, and very subjective. all due respect. please rephrase into one paragraph 4 us. :)

          • Jeff Webb

            For “us”? It was entirely for YOU. However, if anyone else has any questions or comments, they’re welcome to join in. I wonder if others have the same problem understanding my comment.
            Point out the specific parts that you didn’t get, please. If you didn’t understand the first sentence, now that’d really worry me.

          • plsilverman

            the specific parts I found vague? this is getting complicated. by the way, it is known that more than one person can read a reply on this site.

          • Jeff Webb

            Quit this ridiculous crap, P–I know you’re not an idiot, and you know damn well I’m not. You’re trying to avoid the issue like a coward.

            Enough with the tattling on people who have done nothing wrong. It makes you look pathetic and it’ll just be ignored anyway. That’s what happens when you make several false complaints.

          • plsilverman

            then why are you so overly defensive if I’m gonna look stupid anyway? “tattling”? I was shocked by several racist posts here..you were not? if this were some fly by nite deal, I’d say..well. But this is a site of avery celebrated and respected columnist – with whom I disagree 90% of the time. I can’t believ that “[Obama is] the alfalpha and the omega:”, etc., does not get deleted.
            why do worry about nothing?
            NOW..what freaking “ISSUE” am I avoiding? :)

    • Gulliver

      Obama believes in Super-Gov. We control: your thermostat, your money, your consumption, Wall Street. If you think Big Gov is not hand-in-hand with the Powr Co’s, the Insurance Co’s your just not paying attention.A meeting, CIA, NSA, Bankers, K-Street boys, hell for all I know Gallo Wine.It’s on tape, I saw it. Elusive, like the cruise missle the Pentagon said “Don’t show”. I say Gallo becuase the American People were sold out. By a conservative. Very cheaply. Disgusting. One thing to have Pink shout, another to have your people sell the rug out from under you. I talk now to Lizzie Dole.

  • plsilverman

    something tells me that Boehner runs the cash register. >>>>>why do you use the word “enforcement” re. AFCA taxes? that betrays your bias.

    • Drew Page

      If you can’t figure out what the term enforcement means, there is no point in my telling you.

      • plsilverman

        (pause) referring to the USE of that word in that particular context.

  • plsilverman

    F & F was originated by Bush II’s Attorney General and Obama had Holder put an end to it. Biased & egregious acts against citizens? How about sending citizens to fight a War for Halliburton, the company that the VP once played CEO for?’
    If Reagan did not get locked up for the Beirut 241 and violating the Boland amendment what chance does Obama have of impeachment based upon reporting what was believed about Benghazi at a particular juncture? Was Bush II impeached for letting Cheney play commander in chief and starting up his own energy commission?

    • redrowan2000

      So based on your moral logic only if the previous incidents you cited had resulted in indictments, impeachments or criminal prosecution could you then even think that there is something ethically and or at least present a case for misfeasance or with Obama personally nonfeasance So basically your rationalization is because the incidents of the past did not result in indictments or criminal prosecution then Obama should be given a pass. If a Republican did something and wasn’t indicted than it’s ok for Obama to do whatever he wants. Great rationalization, you must be a teacher.
      If you cant smell the rot from this administration then you are beyond help. You are a “True Believer” and have no mind of your own. Maybe you should get one.

  • plsilverman

    the Tea party sees Obama as the forerunner of the anti-Christ (I was told this by a good friend who is with the Tea Party in NC)…the Tea Party bullied (as obvious front-group for the Koch Bros. and ALEC) Mr. Boehner in dragging out the routine debt-ceiling debate apparently get our S & L rating lowered to embarrass Barack Obama. The TP also was very involved in Voter Suppression in the Swing states-yes!

    • Joel Wischkaemper

      Folks.. if this had happened, it would have hit the very liberal NC newspapers like a mortar barrage. Go to the internet public library at http://www.ipl.org and try and find a story like that and by jimmney.. ‘ole Silverman needs three more inches removed from his nose.

      • plsilverman

        well, my good friend doesn’t make things up! :) “three inches from my nose”? hehehe…..not cool calling someone a “liar”.

        • Kewgah

          LOOK! A SQUIRREL! I follow you silverman, and your diversionary tactics are unscrupulous. Stick with the subject you set forth, and tell the truth to yourself.

          • Gulliver

            The Libs tactic is always to divert. Facts upset them. Watch how the talk over others on the news shows. They can’t stand it. Originally? Global freezing, circa 1960′s, model failed, so now global warming. You must ride a bike, set your themosat here, the limo lib crowd free to take planes and have houses like AL & the Breck Girl. Not you, you peasant! Big Gov Knows Best !! Lest we send the IRS on you.

    • dave davies

      Remember people. Phil doesn’t say anything that isn’t wrong, spun, or twisted. Just ignore him.

    • Gulliver

      Now who is the conspiracy throat swing? OB is just a community organizer in over his head. Elected mostly because of his race, white guilt. Joe B. said it, “He’s a nice looking black man that smells nice and says the right things”. His party.

      • plsilverman

        Yes, Biden made a weird statement something like “He’s an African American who’s young and articulate”. That “community organizer” thing borders on racist because it brings up images of an young, “angry Black man” angrily affixing flyers to posts in the ” ‘hood”, eh? Got newz 4 ya, pal: I was with the NJ State Dept. of Labor and worked with the “community organizers” that you and Sarah Palin like to mock. Barack Obama had the chance to make a million $$$$ on Wall Street but he chose to run a Jobs Training Program: had to disappoint you but it takes talent and the willingness to sacrifice for people to succeed at that. You must have knowledge of local, county, and state labor laws, a good rapport with the Chamber of Commerce and the Dept. of labor office and excellent counseling skills. In 2002 worked in Asbury park, NJ, on a program called CONSTRUCTION JOBS FOR WOMEN AND MINORITIES. A local Church worked with me and Union reps and residents of the community. You think the Minister was some angry dude with nothing better to do? >>>re. the “party”. You mean to say that since 01-20-09 the GOP has not shown more racism? With Gingrich, Palin, Coulter, Limbaugh getting away with the most blatant racism since the ’60s? Now, sadly, right on Bernie’s site we see, mostly from posters, things like “Obammy” and “[Obama is] the alfalfa and the omega”, etc., etc.”

  • wally12

    Burt: Great article. You are correct and I never though of it the way you stated that the recruiting tool of Hamas is the items that liberals are in favor of. Plus way don’t they oppose the attacks on US citizens and US properties? Is it because they are against American values or are they just stupid?

  • Tiffany

    The Pledge of Allegiance was worse than you mentioned. It was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior (see the book “Pledge of Allegiance + Swastika Secrets” by the author Ian Tinny and detailing the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry). In practice the gesture was performed palm down, and for 3 decades before the same gesture and similar robotic chanting was adopted by German socialists.

  • Gulliver

    Al Franken. His State bird is the loon, right ? How fitting, and so sad for MN.

    • plsilverman

      they’ll be just a little happier when “one-billed-passed” Bachman leaves town.

      • Gulliver

        “one-bill”? Voter ID? Your a little like Lanny, sent by Bill to the press “There is no fire”, meanwhile Bill knows his spooge on the dress. Poor Lanny. Betrayed, embarassed, hides for 8 yrs. Now, presto! he’s back. Master of misdirection you silverman, Holder, the IRS. Should be indefensible to all Americans.
        I would not tolerate it if they did it to Dems.
        Next election it might be me.
        You don’t see it?

        • plsilverman

          yes, one bill…please rephrase your entire post…can’t follow :)

          • Joel Wischkaemper

            Nooooo problem silverman.. everyone else can and that is what counts.

        • Joel Wischkaemper

          Silverman is desperate for Tamney Hall Politics again.

          • plsilverman

            what statement that I made above bothers you or contradicts your research? :)

  • Gulliver

    Socialistic eutopia approaches. Lady out west calls 911, my ex is outside. “We have no one to send”. Money goes to healthcare & pensions. She was beaten & raped. Police now arrest him, neighboring force. What says NOW to that ?

  • legal eagle

    What drugs are you on that cause you to ramble like this?

    • Wheels55

      I think he makes plenty of sense. Can’t be on drugs and do that. You should try it instead of inhaling so often (like Barack “inhaling is the purpose” Obama).
      Seriously, are you OK with the way Obama’s administration has handled these events?

      • plsilverman

        not really happy. but there’s no proof of any malfeasance from the White House. that should upset the 24-7 Obama Is Anti-Christ contingent.

      • legal eagle

        What “events” are you referring to?

        • Wheels55

          IRS, AP/Rosen, Benghazi, Fast & Furious, $50 million in IRS conferences and videos…
          Like Jay Carney is fond of saying: At no time was the Obama Administration aware of what the Obama Administration was doing.
          You gotta be proud that we have such a transparent leader. Obama will tell you he doesn’t know anything right away. He is the second coming…of Sgt. Shultz.

          • legal eagle

            and what Administration has not had “issues”? Political criticism does not equate to malfeasance….Stop whining..

    • Integrity

      Fundamental Theorem of Liberalism: Every liberal policy can be uniquely factored as a product of stupid ideas. QED.

  • Wheels55

    Abortion is a legal way to kill the defenseless.

    • legal eagle

      Another anti-abortion nut job….When in doubt pull out the abortion card…

      • Wheels55

        I actually think there are cases where abortion is the right thing. For example, I would have encouraged your Mother to have one.

        • plsilverman

          From such an esteemed gentleman as yourself, such a low class statement must be viewed as purely anomalous.

          • Wheels55

            Thank you

      • Integrity

        I support abortion, provided the fetus is liberal.

        • legal eagle

          I can see why your screen name is Integrity instead of Intelligence..

          • Gulliver

            He just transfers Lanny Davis. So idealistic there is no reasoning with him

          • Integrity

            I thought you would be happy that I shared some of your views. And this is the thanks I get? It fascinates me, though, how people can define the exact moment a fetus becomes a human being and no longer a blob of non sentient flesh.

          • legal eagle

            The law defines the moment exact moment a fetus becomes a human being. If a fetus had legal rights , in theory, it could sue his/her mother for abuse, malnutrition, smoking etc. There are attorneys out there who would welcome the work….lol
            While you and I may not agree with every law they are subject to change.
            Morality and legality often are at odds which is one of the reasons democracies are messy…

        • Gulliver

          Actually that’s funny. Like Reagan on the gurny “I hope all you boys are Republican”. Know what the Doc said?

      • Gulliver

        Or the race card. Lib standards. silverman does not know, when was income tax established? Not by the founders. Think Titantic gentlemen. Country was fine for a hundred years before we gave our money to the whores in DC.

        • legal eagle

          Country was not fine.. It was broke…

          • Gulliver

            Ah, I see, a liberal lawyer. What a surprise. You are mistaken, country was not broke at the turn of the century. Teddy was soon to take over. Not by election mind you, vice-pres was a way to get rid of him. When I grew up lawyers were conservative. What happened?
            Influx of Libs into education, and the law got greedy and hand-in-hand with politics. Somewhere lost is love of Country. My guess, you never served.

          • legal eagle

            When you grew up lawyers were conservative? When I grew up there were lawyers who were conservative and lawyers who were liberal…What’s changed? What’s your point?
            I like, most college students in the sixties didn’t serve. I don’t know anyone who volunteered for the disaster known as Vietnam….Did you?

        • plsilverman

          Did I say INCOME tax, pal? :) >>>> by the way, we had slavery as a way of Life until…? ask Michelle Bachman. She believes that it basically ended in 1789. Women could not vote until 1920. we had 8 year olds working full-time in dangerous factories. Ah, the good ol’ days.

    • Gulliver

      “Taxes are legalized theft.” I did not say it first, it was, I think in the 19 teens. My point, abortion, when made ‘legal’ runs away. Gov taxes what they don’t like. Look how they ride tobacco. But, they LOVE the money.

      • plsilverman

        the Founders seemed to really dig taxes!

      • Wheels55

        I agree.

        • Gulliver

          Oh my, I found an intelligent one. ‘Wheels’? You know autos? When they introduced Social Secuity one Senator said “I see this getting way out of hand”, the Dems proclaimed “It will never be more than 2% of anyone check”. Ask any employer what he pays.

          • Wheels55

            When people became numb to payroll taxes, the politicians saw their foot firmly planted in our paychecks and took more. Employers pay on average about 11% in payroll taxes (when unemployment is included). That’s 11% that we will not be compensated for but does figure into an employer’s cost for our employment. Hope for a long life and you could see all of that come back to you – if Obama doesn’t decide that you are too privileged to deserve SS and Medicare.

    • plsilverman

      Non-abortion has been shown to “kill” Mothers who had medical reasons not to deliver.

      • Kewgah

        Now you’re lying to yourself again silverman. Go shine yourself up, turd. Your tarnish is evasive to the light.

    • Gulliver

      And yet, it is the law. Once put to me “Do you think if men had babies this would even be an issue?”. I think not, but food for thought

  • Wheels55

    IRS – Zombies. Great comparison.

    • Gulliver

      One more for you. Congress: “Dracula in charge of the blood bank”. His minions ? The IRS. Have a right to bear arms into your house or business. Seems warrants are now easy business. Ben Franklin just shuddered at what has become of us. The US.

      • plsilverman

        yeah, what a mess we are. An African American voted President twice in a very recently apartheid country.

        • Jeff Webb

          It’s always about race with you–pathetic.

          • plsilverman

            half the country is race obsessed, not me. meaning, they want to overturn Civil Rights legislation.

          • Jeff Webb

            That’s how YOU interpret it, which isn’t the same as hard fact.

          • Gulliver

            Always “They” with you silverman. Maybe it’s just you

          • Integrity

            You mean the half that disagrees with the President?

          • plsilverman

            no, the half that agrees with the President.

        • Gulliver

          By recently you mean the 1960′s ?

          • plsilverman

            yeah, ancient history….the country is still 50% pro-segregation.

          • Drew Page

            And you can prove this how?

          • Gulliver

            Exactly. A stat with no back-up. Prove to me that the country is this way. I’ve been coast to coast, I did not see that.

          • Joel Wischkaemper

            No back up, and no brains, but the accusation can mess up social progress instantly.
            I think we need to stop trying for social equality in terms of what is said or published, and maintain our efforts where economics are concerned. No more mr. nice guy, and start with the massive welfare in the minority communities with massive numbers of unwed little girl mothers. 17 use to get your twenty and we could do that with a road crew in chains thrown in.

          • Wheels55

            Now that you mention it, I do wish you lived in another universe. Just kidding.

        • Wheels55

          Why make this mess about race?

  • veeper

    the obama trolls are out in force…..

    when obama fails in his duties and gets called out for his sleazy tactics….

    he hides behind his internet forum and twitter trolls…

    • plsilverman

      two more…”trolls”? man, get a thesaurus.

  • plsilverman

    IRS to “enforce” AFCA? That’s poor writing and you know it. There are many taxes within AFCA, yes..and guess what? The IRS finds ‘em, if they are hidden. The plan is that the “very rich” pay tax over a 10-yr. period to raise about 30 billion dollars. Aw, shucks, U knew that.

  • plsilverman

    now, Burt, come on. number one, Nazi references earn you an automatic D- and I can’t believe Mr. Goldberg approves of that. your statement about PLANNED PARENTHOOD is garbage: you imply that abortions are performed at PP locations. The woman who wants an abortion is counseled there and I assume – correct me if I’m wrong – they are referred to a Doctor/Clinic. Personally, I hate abortion and can accept it only for rape and incest victims, and those who have a Doctor’s note saying that delivery would put the Mother at risk.

    • legal eagle

      Isn’t great to see old guys like Prelutsky outraged over a woman’s right to choose? The laws are not interpreted over whether you or I “like” abortion. It’s the law of this land as well as many others…

      • Drew Page

        The same Supreme Court that ruled killing a baby 15 minutes prior to its delivery is Planned Parenthood would rule that killing it 15 minutes after its delivery was murder. Go figure.

        • legal eagle

          Not only are you rambling you are also incoherent….sober up..LOL

        • plsilverman

          abortion under those conditions is hard to understand…but since you bring up the SC: were you happen when it illegally stopped a recount in 2000 and gave us Citizens United?

          • Jeff Webb

            The recounts were still going on well past the legally mandated deadline. Were you happy that the Florida SC broke the law?

            As for Citizens: what part of “Congress shall make no law” do you not get?

          • plsilverman

            what can I tell ya?…read the Bugliosi book.

          • Jeff Webb

            Read the 1st Amendment.

  • Joel Wischkaemper

    I love it. CBS is throwing their main man under the bus.
    —————————————-
    Rep. Issa claims IRS targeting scandal originated
    in D.C.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57587242/rep-issa-claims-irs-targeting-scandal-originated-in-d.c/

    House Oversight Committee Chairman
    Darrell Issa, R-Calif., citing the testimony of IRS employees who
    spoke to his committee behind closed doors, argued Sunday that the
    tax agency’s targeting of conservative groups was not the result of a
    few “rogue agents” in the Cincinnati field office, as the
    IRS and the Obama administration have insisted, but the product of a
    direct order from IRS headquarters in Washington.

    • legal eagle

      Darrell Issa, the car thief, “argued” …..so your saying CBS agrees with Issa?

      • Joel Wischkaemper

        You have convinced me that you are not a grown man. Children make assertions and never prove what they have to say. So if Issa is a car thief, it seems to me you should prove almost anything beyond common knowledge, and that one is NOT common knowledge.

        As you read the article, much of the usual side remarks are missing, and the tenor of the piece is accepting the information as correct. I would point out too, that if it were not correct, someone on that panel Issa heads would have been out there in front of the press waving his guns saying.. liar, liar..

        CBS agrees with Issa.

        • legal eagle

          Check Darrell Issa’s Wikipedia page…He was indicted for car theft. It is common knowledge to all San Diegans of which I am one…
          BTW, the term “argues” means that Issa made a statement of opinion…You’re bright enough to understand that right?

          • Jeff Webb

            Did the indictment lead to a conviction?

          • legal eagle

            Plea bargained it down to a misdemeanor….

          • Jeff Webb

            what misdemeanor, may I ask?

          • legal eagle

            Google the facts…Are your fingers broken or don’t you know how to use Google?….LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            You called him, in no uncertain terms, a car thief. Based on that, I thought YOU would be the source of good, solid information on the matter. Don’t blame me for assuming you had all the facts, kiddo.

          • legal eagle

            Sorry, for the nastiness…

          • Jeff Webb

            Eagle,

            This is not about you being nasty.
            You very clearly posted a defamatory, false statement about someone as if it was fact, which is absolutely forbidden here. The fact that the person is a federal legislator makes it especially bad.

            Last time: you have two options. Pick one and post it.

          • legal eagle

            Defamatory false statements are forbidden here? Do you read any of these posts…Three quarters of them are defamatory and false particularly the one’s about Obama….
            I must say that your comment was one of the more humorous posts I’ve seen on this site…

          • Jeff Webb

            I’ll clear it up for you: it’s one thing to make accusations amidst unsettled or ongoing issues, especially when they’re mostly about lying and there is ample evidence. It’s wholly different to say a sitting congressperson committed a crime, when it’s a matter of record that he did not.

            You might argue that Obama did nothing wrong, and that President Bush lied about things left & right, but there isn’t an argument that Issa stole a car. It’s settled that he didn’t, and this fact can be found on the site you referenced!

            Now, this is truly your last chance: post proof you were right or admit you were wrong. We’re done playing here.

          • legal eagle

            Are you threatening me? LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            While I participate in the column commentary strictly for enjoyment, I am still a representative of this site, and one of my roles involves addressing matters like this.

            Posters regularly get latitude here when things get more pointed (otherwise it’s not much of a robust exchange of ideas), but it is still possible to cross a line.

            As I alluded to before, Bernie takes clear-cut slander like you posted very seriously. Up until you did, there was nothing more than a little sharp dialogue going on, no lines crossed.

            The site manager & I talked, and we’re treating this as you lacking all the facts and being sloppy, not the more apparent case of you being a malicious, defiant troll who knew better. This is why you’re still around to comment.

            Regarding your question, am I threatening you? Actually, yes: try it again and I’ll ban you from this site permanently.

          • legal eagle

            Does that go also for defamation and obnoxiousness like Prelutsky referring to the POTUS as “schmuck” and an “SOB”. Are your standards different for those who write the blogs or those whose views differ with yours?
            If you knew anything about the law you would know that my remarks about Issa were not defamatory and because I substituted convicted for indicted I stand corrected..
            I am honestly surprised that Bernie Goldberg, a respected journalist, would allow someone to write a vitriolic column like that of Prelutsky….

          • Jeff Webb

            I explained the difference already, and I’m actually a little disappointed that a person with your education doesn’t see any difference between calling someone a schmuck and saying someone known specifically to be innocent was guilty of a crime.

            You had enough opportunities to settle this issue; you wouldn’t. You could’ve corrected yourself at some point; you didn’t. Looking at all your posts, anyone can clearly see you indicating Congressman Issa is a car thief, and after being asked to elaborate, responding with another false statement indicating he still admitted guilt of some crime. You never said anything remotely like “I got it wrong…the charges were actually dropped.”

            If you know more about the law than I do, it seems odd that I’m the one pointing out there’s a distinct difference between pleading to a lesser crime and having the charges against you dropped by a judge.

            Let’s be clear here: this is Bernie’s site–his rules, not yours. Regardless of how you feel about it, you have been made aware of what you did wrong and where we now stand.

          • legal eagle

            I now understand your rules and respect your right to set them.

          • legal eagle

            By the way…what is the rule for a standing congressman?…LOL

          • plsilverman

            dude was more of a car thief than Obama lied about any of the RNC-freeze fried “scandals”.

          • Jeff Webb

            Wishful thinking. You’ll just have to accept that there are scandals, and no matter his personal involvement, they are HIS. And if you think he’s had no involvement at all, that’s clouded thinking.

          • Jeff Webb

            Okay, I checked the Wikipedia page as you suggested to Joel. It says that the man you called a car thief has never been convicted of it, never said he did it, and wasn’t involved in any plea bargain, SINCE THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED.

            Pick one of the following:

            A) you provide a link showing as a matter of record that Rep. Darrell Issa, the California congressman who chairs the House Oversight Committee, not only was accused of but did in fact steal a car, or

            B) you admit you were wrong to call him a car thief.

            Not to rush you, but please don’t take too long. I’ll be in touch with the site administrator Tuesday afternoon.

          • plsilverman

            legal eagle simply stated that Issa’s wiki page had such information. l. e. is inviting you to read it for yourself.

          • plsilverman

            we’ll see if Issa’s great work leads to a cup of coffee.

          • plsilverman

            Jeff, he was convicted twice on illegal firearms possession. see the wiki.

          • Jeff Webb

            I missed a couple of spots last time I waxed my car.

            Anybody else around here want to add something irrelevant to the conversation?

        • plsilverman

          Issa is an unfocused, rambling shill for the Kochs/ALEC/Newscorp.

          • legal eagle

            Issa is a bored rich guy who wants to run for higher office but knows he’s never win in California so he’s having his day in the media spotlight…Much ado about nothing ala Whitewater….Republicans rant and rave..the media loves a scandal so they’ll play along for a while longer..

        • plsilverman

          shucks, all of a sudden the “MSM” gets a thumbz up here!

  • http://1389blog.com/ 1389AD

    Spot on about Obama being the tyrant on the podium, and about the Pledge of Allegiance. It’s time we replaced it with a pledge to uphold the Constitution – a pledge that would genuinely mean something.

    The major difference between Obama’s operatives (at the IRS and elsewhere) and ordinary zombies is that the former has absolutely no interest in brains.

    Some people’s brains are like attics – other people’s brains are more like toilets. The stuff they put in them is just nasty and they need a good flushing.

    • plsilverman

      Really? the Tyrant? as he continues all those good Republican programs? :)

      • http://1389blog.com/ 1389AD

        Both parties are guilty of flouting the US Constitution.

        • plsilverman

          yes! but…since 01-20-09, I feel the extremist end of the GOP – is more anti-Constitution/anti-American, as it wants to undue Civil Rights/Voting Rights and, shall we say, “Abortion Rights”. (although recreational abortion is an abomination).

          • http://1389blog.com/ 1389AD

            How you FEEL is not a valid argument as to which party is more at fault. Abortion is no more a right than murder is. You don’t want me (or the government, or your mother) to have the right to kill YOU if any of us decide your existence no longer suits our convenience, now do you?

          • plsilverman

            before we spend 17 hours debating “abortion”… I hate abortion except for remedy in rape, incest, and medically recommended cases -and I would encourage a woman to still deliver except if there’s a medical-anatomical reason. Further, with the scientific analysis available by 2013, we all know that an abortion after (about) 6 weeks should be very discouraged. so we are not too far apart on the whole issue started above.

          • Drew Page

            Quite a sweeping indictment Phil. Just exactly which conservative Republican has suggested the repeal of the Civil rights Act ? Please name one and provide some proof or evidence. If you are equating the call for a voter photo-ID with a call for the repeal of the Civil rights/Voting rights laws you are making quite a stretch. You apparently have no problem with requiring a photo be included on a driver’s license, or a workplace ID. You don’t seem to have a problem with TSA requiring a photo-ID to get on a plane, or a bar or a liquor store requiring a photo-ID before selling its products, or of a retail store requiring a photo-ID when accepting a personal check. If people can get to a voting place, they can get to a state facility that issues a photo-ID.

          • plsilverman

            Rand Paul and all Tea Partiers at the Capitol and beyond. They want to outlaw the Voting Rights act of 1965 as they very aggressively tried to suppress Obama’s base in the swing states. Rand Paul said that a business owner should have the right to deny service to a person based upon their ethnicity. The voting rights “challenge” by the Right extremists, which embarrassed many Republicans, was nothing but a move to discourage or keep perceived Obama voters HOME on election day. Incl., not just poor people and students but Veterans who have voted for 40 years. That was all nonsense and it did not work…Obama’s base stood in line 8 hours to defy those neo-Birchers.

        • legal eagle

          Flouting? is that a Mexican dish?

      • Drew Page

        By gosh Phil, you’ve figured it out. Obama is a crypto-conservative tyrant.

        • plsilverman

          give us one example of tyrannical behavior…leave out the Republican programs he has continued.

    • legal eagle

      The Pledge of Allegiance? Where do they find the wackos to post on this site?

      • Integrity

        Not sure. Where did you and plsilverman come from?

  • Roadmaster

    Another good essay, Burt. Comments were good too and quick reading if you scroll past the drivel droolers, LegallEegall & PeeSliverman.

    • plsilverman

      PeeSliverman? I don’t dig you making fun of my Father’s last name. If I had the great fortune of accidentally meeting you at McDonald’s something tells me you’d never talk like that to my face. In fact, I can guarantee that. You wanna discuss issues or just violate Bernie’s House Rules here?

      • veeper

        oh my god….

        sad lonely old man….

        • plsilverman

          I’m a happy guy, son. I may be old, 62, but I can still score from second base on a line drive to right. (To Left, not sure). I eat ribeye and listen to the Everly Brothers, Chuck Berry, and Little Richard. I go to Nixon museum and marvel at his greatness. I read a lot about JFK and am getting to appreciate Bush I.
          I’m all-American. Also, a Mickey Mantle/Yankees expert. so when you hit 62, I hope you have a good time like me. Right now, I’d recommend that you expand your vocabulary to *40* words. By the time you get to 62, (I mean age 62), you’ll have more confidence in your writing.

          • legal eagle

            You listen to Michael Weiner aka Savage? Don’t you know that listening to that garbage causes brain damage?…lol

          • plsilverman

            I like POLITICAL ZOO, his book. He has been more critical of the Right than the Left. Yes, he lost his political marbles on 01-20-09 with a lot of them..and his last 2 books have been pretty shabby. But he can’t stand Fox (calls them “Fix news”) and he can’t stand Bush II! He was/is totally against both Middle East wars.

          • legal eagle

            He’s a bitter old man who hates everyone….He hates Fox because they fired him for making outrageous slurs about gays…I’ve also heard him make anti- semitic remarks against Jewish Dems…

  • legal eagle

    Victimization seems to be the key talking point for Republicans these days…Get Over It…

    • Integrity

      I could not care less about either political party. They have both done serious damage to our country. Doesn’t anyone care about right and wrong anymore? I remember a time when we criticized our president, regardless of whether or not we voted for him. Many are now so entrenched in their ideology that they refuse to see or acknowledge the truth. Maybe, one of these years, you will hear that loud popping sound which will occur after you pull your head out of Obama’s orifice. I am quite sure you could find an attorney to argue that it doesn’t stink; I know of a few constitutional lawyers that could assist you.

      • legal eagle

        I am an attorney….what’s your point? That you remember the good old days? So it stinks? A lot of things stink…doesn’t make them illegal….
        When Nixon was sending the FBI after his “enemies” do you recall anyone from the IRS going to jail? I don’t..

        • Integrity

          You missed the point, but I don’t care to connect the dots for you. You don’t see a possible Hatch Act violation? How does the bad behavior of the Nixon Administration justify the bad behavior of the Obama Administration? This is the best you can do? I guess there will be no loud popping sound in your near future. Please tell me you don’t work for DOJ!

          • legal eagle

            I didn’t equate or justify anyone’s bad behavior…politically bad behavior is not necessarily a criminal act. Hatch Act? Good luck prosecuting someone for Hatch Act violation…
            No, I don’t work for DOJ…doesn’t pay enough….LOL

          • Integrity

            I pity your clients.

          • plsilverman

            bad behavior comparison is ok in an argument if both parties DO something PROVEN to be wrong. Show us the PROOF that Obama did one single thing wrong in any of these “scandals”.

          • Jeff Webb

            Despite the WH having the correct information soon after the Benghazi attack, Obama falsely blamed it on a protest over a Youtube video for weeks.

          • plsilverman

            “falsely”? well, that’s better than “he lied”. How about the report of a dumb video in this era is still to be taken seriously…have U heard of Salman Rushti? is there any PROOF he made up that video thing? :)

          • Jeff Webb

            “How about the report of a dumb video in this era is still to be taken seriously…”

            The way that’s worded, I don’t understand what you’re trying to say, though I am familiar with Rushdie.

            Obama lied about something, no matter how you try to spin it. Either he lied about the video as I referenced, or he lied in the Crowley debate when he said he called it a terrorist attack right away. It’s that simple.

            Regardless, there is absolutely no excuse for how he went on about the video, especially as long as he did. All those references to the video for what, 3-4 weeks? You’d have to be seriously incompetent or a liar with no shame to speak of. I don’t know which one is worse in this instance, but I have a hard time believing even Obama could be this incompetent.

          • Integrity

            Intellectually dishonest. QED.

          • Integrity

            Why don’t you prove that he didn’t?

          • plsilverman

            Hatch Act violation? That has to do with running/contributing to a political campaign from a tax payer supported government desk.

          • Integrity

            No s sherlock!

    • Joel Wischkaemper

      I agree.. lets throw the head of the IRS into Rikers and as he comes to understand where he is going, maybe his attic will remember exactly how it happened, and he can pass a polygrah. I think we would be going up, up and away after that. Wonderful idea Legal.

      • legal eagle

        Joel,
        You must be practicing for an appearance on Hannity. Isn’t it a little early in the day for you to be drunk…..LOL

        • Joel Wischkaemper

          Hannity is doing well if you are moaning about him. No.. oblivion has never been my tension relief and with his obvious sucess, neither is it Hannity’s. But.. but why are all the left wing tele shows being replaced with How to Cook stuff?

          • plsilverman

            Hannity has certainly succeeded…as a RNC parrot-puppet. whose greatest talent is to repeat phrases written for him…repeat maybe 100 times in one day.

      • plsilverman

        if the Bush adm. escaped tjhat level of scrutiny (except for Mr. Libby) then why would these “scandals” yield anything more? Read Bugliosi’s book THE PROSECUTION OF GEORGE W. BUSH FOR MURDER. [re. Iraq].

        • Joel Wischkaemper

          You have not made a case for Mr. Bush having ‘escaped’ anything. Futher, what Mr. Obama is doing is gross violation of his oath of office, and tyrants specifally operate in the absence of law. Holder’s conduct with the IRS issue is specifically in the absence of the law and the question is, did Obama know what Holder was doing.. or was it Obama doing the doings via Holder.

          I almost have the feeling you are preparing the case for Mr. Holders defense. If I were you, I wouldn’t waste time on little ‘ole me. Go over to the Huffington Post and take a read. Those ladies are jumping up and down on Holder with those very spiky High Heel shoes and leaving scar tissue. That is where you need to be, and if you read this paper sir, you seem to have a lot of time to attempt at toying with pragmatic viewpoints. You surely have time to take care of your man over at the Huffington Post.

          • Gulliver

            No getting around it, Libs know it too, Holder lied to Congress. You & I go to jail. He softly lands at some high priced law firm. What horseshit. And these nitwits run the country? How freaking pathetic.

          • plsilverman

            ok, then write to Boehner and tell him to do better!

          • plsilverman

            where’s your case against Obama, pal? :)

          • Joel Wischkaemper

            Read the news.. it is getting worse too.

          • plsilverman

            what is “it”? seriously.

          • Integrity

            It depends on the definition of “is”.

      • plsilverman

        has the Special Investigation warranted such a move at this point?

  • Iklwa

    Your point about liberals’ use of the language to say the actions we take are “recruiting tools” but handily ignoring the bad guys’ actions is right on the money. This sort of “argument” on their part drives me batty (as if there was far to go).

    Another piece of slight of hand they employ is postulating that any of their ideas is a “moral imperative”. Yet woe be unto those who would argue against a woman’s right to be complicit in infanticide and the Queer Nations’ desire for “marriage equality” using the moral argument. They are obviously ignorant, closed-minded or (please insert pejorative here).

    Recently, I have come to the conclusion that it is my moral imperative to obtain a recycling firearm. You know, one of those machines that when fired, recycles a portion of the spent gas created during ignition to operate the mechanism, preparing it for operation again. I’m thinking the excuse I’m going to give my wife is something along the lines of, “But Honey, it’s just my way of contributing to saving energy and our planet. After all, isn’t it our moral imperative to save the planet?”

    Ya think it’ll work?

    • legal eagle

      For the past 40 years whenever Republicans need to whine they bring up abortion…It’s called freedom of choice…

      • souvoter

        Nobody is talking about killing babies, you pea brain!!!! Idiot liberals; always trying to change the subject, as usual.

  • souvoter

    Obama and most democrats have proven to be incompentent know-nothings; afflicted with amnesia and the Benghazi flu; but I see Hillary is doing much better now. Maybe if their democrat socialists followers watched Fox News instead of the lap-dog press, they would be enlightened!! Also, they need to tune in to the hearings next week on the three scandals the current rulers are involved in (c-span)!

    • plsilverman

      Fox News is not like a lap dog. They are like a lap Fox – for the RNC. The Media Arm for them. 24-7 Hate Obama agenda. Foxnews uses edited trash video from the likes O’Keefe and Breitbart. “Benghazi flu” is straight from the fair and balanced Hannity playbook..which is 100% Sammon memos. The Secretary of state was under the weather which isn’t funny…plus those reportedly bad decisions were made by mid-level bureaucrats in the state dept. Those “scandals” have zero evidence to support such a charge. they are real only in the imagination of Rupert Murdoch, hence the propagandist junk spewed pout by parrot-puppet Hannity.

  • plsilverman

    President Obama is a tyrant? Care to explain?

    • veeper

      try a dictionary….troll

      • plsilverman

        ok..then you try a Thesaurus.

    • Joel Wischkaemper

      Easily done. If you are in a leader of a democarcy and you do not honor your oath of office, but more particularly, don’t enforce the laws of the land, you are on your way from a mini-tyrant to a full fledged tyrant.

      The problem in judging tyrant or mini-tyrant, is know all that he does. The press refuses to publish very simple things on the matter of Obama, and most certainly very serious things related to Obama. One example would be the fact that Obama was telling us he deported more illegal aliens in his time in office than anyone else had. Not true and I had it splashed over as many web sites as I could, and Obama took the data on the Immigration Service detain and deport down. It was on government computers and so, he got away with it. But he didn’t know that site took its data from another site, and the two sites matched perfectly on their presentation. Both, by the way, made Obama look the fool for his claim.
      I will bring the link when I am in my home disk, but supressing the truth on an administration is the act of… ta da….. a wanabe tyrant at least. And boy howdy, there .is. more.

      • legal eagle

        More moaning and groaning from the Obama haters…Amazing how they only lose their freedom when a Dem is POTUS…

        • Iklwa

          It’s also amazing how the once furious and ever present protesters against Bush fall deathly silent when their guy is actually pushing a fascist agenda.

          • plsilverman

            explain how Obama’s “agenda” is Fascist and please use 1-2 examples. By the way, it’s a fact that until the truth about the slam dunkers and the Cheney-produced War came out, Bush II was treated quite well by that Lefty press.

          • Iklwa

            Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community, relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles, hostile to liberal democracy.

            Fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader.

            Fascism views political violence, including the use of governmental agencies under their control as a means to achieve national rejuvenation and elimination of political enemies.

            Fascist ideology consistently invokes the primacy of the state. Leaders such as Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolph Hitler in Germany embodied the state and claimed indisputable power. Fascism borrowed theories and terminology from socialism but applied them to what it saw as the more significant conflict focused on ending the divisions between classes within the nation.

            Fascism supports what is sometimes called a Third Position between capitalism and Marxist socialism.

            While President Obama has not claimed undisputed power in this government, it is poignantly clear he believes the world would be a better place if he had. It is also abundantly clear that he is the type of person who, seeing an opportunity to exercise that control, would seize it.

          • plsilverman

            It’s obvious you can write. All due respect, but you write better than Burt or John, here. But….you are still giving us a very subjective view of Barack Obama. Was continuing the TARP, Fascistic? Telling the healthcare insurers, thru AFCA, that they can no longer deny coverage to cancer patients because they are too expensive?How many “Fascists” would chase down terrorists who have essentially the same point of view? Obama had a chance to renew the Fairness Doctrine for media and he declined.>>>> “type of person”? what’s that supposed to mean? :)
            Ok…I enjoyed your writing.

        • Jeff Webb

          Actually, the fact that democrats are trying to infringe on people’s rights is anything but amazing. It’s what they do.

          You’re actually still trying to defend the government’s actions, trying to make this about the opposition? I’m both impressed by your commitment and amazed by your foolishness.

          • legal eagle

            Exactly what rights are being infringed upon? Do you have a clue about what you are talking about or are you just spewing generalities?

          • legal eagle

            I agree. The Dems have taken away our right to have our kids die in Iraq…What other rights have you lost?

          • Jeff Webb

            “I agree. The Dems have taken away our right to have our kids die in Iraq..”

            They also took away Americans’ right to work abroad for honest, responsible, competent people interested in saving them from a violent, preventable death. Now can we move on, smart boy?’

            You’re actually asking what rights have been infringed upon, as if you’ve been asleep this last few weeks.

            These are scandals for a reason, and it ain’t the Republican angle you’re screeching about. If you don’t get that, I can’t help you.

      • plsilverman

        ok (pause) now…tell us HOW Obama violated the Oath.

        • Joel Wischkaemper

          “…tell usHOW Obama violated the Oath”
          ——————————–
          He is specifically charged with enforcing the laws of the land. He has not done so in several cases. But per this paper..

          He has not enforced the Immigration Law. In that process he has manipulated data to achieve his goal of something closer to, or at, open borders.

          But this is one of several processes he has involved himself in, and when he manipulated data to achive the goal, he joined the ranks of tyrants.

          But (pause)… do you understand that if you betray your oath of office, you have probably committed a crime. In addition, and specifically, to uphold and enforce our laws?

          • Joel Wischkaemper

            Another excellent example of acting in the way of a tyrant is found within this article.

            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/31/holders-contempt-for-the-truth/#ixzz2V9tmh8JW

          • plsilverman

            Washington Times..I used to read and blog them. they are very much like Fox: 24-7 Despise Obama. Why not use something like National Review?

          • plsilverman

            you have given us only subjectivity. gonna try again: please give specific examples, proven examples, things that could actually be USED in your wished-for (?) impeachment.

  • plsilverman

    Ok, Mr. Fair and Balanced, name one “whopper” of Carney.

    • Integrity

      Baghdad Bob is still alive!

      • plsilverman

        ok, that’s one whopper………………give us just one more.

        • Integrity

          How about this whopper, you are intelligent.

          • plsilverman

            sounds like some kind of ad hominem. wanna debate any issues that Mr. Goldberg has generously provided space for, on this site?

          • Integrity

            Not at this point. I just prefer to be troll like you.

  • legal eagle

    Looks like the right wingers have latched on to the IRS scandal like a dog to a bone….Amazing how many pundits and politicians, without any positive agenda for the country,continue to whine about Obama….Now that the economy is d

    • veeper

      actually, the IRS was the first to latch onto republicans and Tea party citizens….

      without any legal grounds in the country to do so….

      but, go ahead and continue to whine because obama and his henchmen got caught….

      • plsilverman

        no legal grounds to begin an investigation of an apparently overreaching use of Citizens United? how are those political ads of Rove and the TP educationally and culturally useful?
        explain how your crystal ball works..gotta send away for one..is that free when you become an O’Reilly Premium member?

        • veeper

          He he he…

          name dropper…

          you don’t impress anyone with a comment full of names….

          • legal eagle

            You can find out when you purchase a roll of O’Reilly’s toilet paper….exclusively for Factor fans…

          • Joel Wischkaemper

            Ah but… it lets us go look up those groups, and they are not popular, and they don’t have a good reputation. Boy.. good move to list those names.

        • Ted Crawford

          The same can be asked in regard to Moveondotorg, Media Matters, Organizing for Action, or the ever popular Barack H. Obama Foundation, which it seems to authorities, has done little for any Kenyans, except of course for the bottom-line of Obon’go Malik Obama!

          • plsilverman

            sounds racially charged..to be reported to the Webmaster here and going to Twitter.

          • Integrity

            Racism is only allowed if you are a liberal and the target is a conservative or a victim of a liberal.

          • plsilverman

            yes, it is utterly inconceivable that a Conservative can make a racially charged statement. in fact, since Leftees have made racially charged statements in the past, let’s give all Rightees carte blanche!

          • Integrity

            How about neither make such statements?

          • Ted Crawford

            You are disgusting NO information Useful Idiot! I’m alive today ONLY because of the actions of one of the best men I’ve ever known, who just happened to be Black!
            It’s very, very good that I don’t know where you are you sick troll!
            Keep your prepubescent babble to yourself!

        • JmThms

          Libs constantly use political organizations under the guise of ‘social welfare’. And you know it. Its part of your culture. Its part of your lie. Green this. Global warming that. Progressive this. Common that. Human Rights this. Advocates that. Anti-Defamation this. Amnesty that. Coalition this. Justice that.

          Its a circus!

      • legal eagle

        Democratic Presidents have henchmen while Republicans have saintly acolytes like Rove, Gingrich, Libby and Ollie North…Must be difficult playing the victim so frequently..

        • Lucky3511

          Ollie North was a highly decorated Officer

          • plsilverman

            too bad Reagan fired him.

          • legal eagle

            Ollie North is a highly decorated nut job and perjurer….

          • plsilverman

            Yes, North acted like a maniac when he thought that RR wanted him to go “rogue” and get that support to those (pause) moderates in Iran. And he personally benefitted. BUT…I still say the Gipper should not have fired him. North did not violate the Boland Amendment – though I believe he did lie to Congress. He intercepted an enemy plan and did a lot of other heroic things. I ‘m still not clear if he lost his pension.

          • legal eagle

            You wanted Reagan to continue to employ a convicted felon? Are you kidding?

          • plsilverman

            I thought that they threw out the obstruction of justice part…which of course they should not have. Anyway, I’ll re-think it to this extent: Reagan or some gopher violated the Boland Amendment – North is involved. Should not have followed those orders to trade arms for hostages. He does the wrong thing. But instead of Reagan getting impeached we have a War Hero losing his pension. If Reagan got impeached, then I’d say fire North.

          • legal eagle

            North was indicted in March 1988 on 16 Iran/contra charges, along with Poindexter, retired U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard V. Secord and Albert Hakim in a 23-count indictment. After the cases were severed and the central conspiracy charges were dropped due to classified-information problems, North stood trial beginning in February 1989 on 12 counts. On May 4, 1989, he was found guilty of three counts, including aiding and abetting obstruction of Congress, shredding and altering official documents, and accepting an illegal gratuity from Secord. North’s convictions were vacated on July 20, 1990, after the appeals court found that witnesses in his trial might have been impermissibly affected by his immunized congressional testimony.

          • plsilverman

            thank you. I’ll re-think the whole thing. Not to be redundant but with the Gipper going scott-free and a War Hero “going down”, it leaves a bitter taste. But this is the USA and what counts is someone’s recent behavior, not past heroism.

          • legal eagle

            I wouldn’t worry about ollte North…Between the books and talk shows he’s done well…

        • Ted Crawford

          Non Sequitur! Not a one of the people you named head up any Government Agency!

          • Joel Wischkaemper

            Come to think of it.. not even Obama, and come to think of it, he appointed all those guys personally. I think I see some fire on the mountain Ted.

          • plsilverman

            ha! Rove heads up Crossroads,. Newt was Speaker…nah, they have no power.

          • Ted Crawford

            Crossroads IS NOT a Government Agency and Gingrich hasn’t been Speaker for over 15 years!
            Again NON SEQUITUR! Nice Try Comrade!

        • veeper

          n a m e

          D r o p p e r….

          are you reading the newspaper lining in your dresser drawers?

          you are soooo yesterday….

          like your boy obama says….that was a long time ago….

          • plsilverman

            “boy Obama”?>>>> “name dropper” is getting a lot of use lately here. can both DEms. and Repubs. use it?

    • Integrity

      It is not a scandal. It is a crime and those responsible should be punished. How about some intellectual honesty?

      • Integrity

        It appears plsilverman lacks it as well. Have some so-called conservatives/republicans committed crimes or said stupid things. The answer is clearly yes. You can’t justify your misconduct by pointing out the misconduct of others. Leave the red herrings to the children and the amateurs. QED.

        • plsilverman

          plsilverman….interesting 3rd party reference. give us an example where I have tried to justify one single thing here. I seem to recall saying that there are “no excuses” however, there are times when historical context, or historical expectation can be factored in for perspective.

      • legal eagle

        What’s the crime? Care to enlighten us Mr .Prosecuter?

      • legal eagle

        Still waiting to hear what crime was committed?

        • Ted Crawford

          Let’s simply put it this way my myopic friend; If this administrations disingenuous use of IRS is allowed to stand, a clear precedent will have been set. The very next conservative administration, calling on this newly established precedent can effectively end NPR, Planned Parenthood, Media Matters, Moveondotorg., Organizing for Action and, the Barack H. Obama Foundation!

          • Joel Wischkaemper

            I ..WOV.. using the IRS on bogus groups on the left.

          • legal eagle

            Where would it set a precedent? In the media? The issue is the granting of 501(c) (3) status for political groups….NPR is not a political group…neither is Planned Parenthood…
            If it ended the tax exempt status of the other groups…so be it..

          • plsilverman

            GOP tried to end NPR, wants to end PP and AFCA and civil rights legislation; privatize medicare and social security. unlikely.

          • Ted Crawford

            A couple of incorrect statements there. Conservatives advocate only that Public Funds be witheld from NPR and PP, not that they be shutdown.
            Again with the false talking points that Conservatives are against Civil Rights! It was Senator Richard Russell (D – GA.) initiated a 58 day Filibuster, in concert with Strom Thurmond (D-SC.), William Fulbright (D – Ark), Al Gore Sr. (D – Tenn) and Robert Byrd (D – WV), Byrd himself held the Floor for 14 hours! The Bill they were opposed to was the 1964 Civil Rights Act!
            Final votes were:
            House – 80% Republicans for, only 63% of the Democrats voted for!
            Senate – 82% of Republicans were for, with only 69% of Dems!
            Similar results in 1965 for the Voting Rights Act: House – 82 % of Republicans voted for with only 78% of Dems
            Senate – 94% Republicans for , with only 73% of Dems!

        • Integrity

          No point in debating with intellectually dishonest people.

          • legal eagle

            Can’t answer the question so call me intellectually dishonest? Case dismissed.

          • plsilverman

            tell it like it is, baby.

        • Iklwa

          It is a crime to unfairly single out an organization or person for punishment by a government agency for a difference in policy.

          It is a crime to create a bogus warrant by lying to a judge for obtaining e-mail documents and tapping of telephones.

          It is a crime to testify to Congress under oath regarding all of the above.

          • plsilverman

            “unfairly” has still not been proven…..those TP cases appear to be valid in themselves..you have any new, special info. to share?

          • legal eagle

            1) What is the crime? What in the world are you talking about?
            2) What is the crime? You have no clue.
            3) What is the crime for testifying before Congress?
            Stick to whatever you do because you have no clue about the law or how it is administered? When did everyone become a legal expert?

          • legal eagle

            Thank goodness you are not a prosecutor. You’re cases would be thrown out in about five minutes for lack of evidence.

        • JmThms

          Using the IRS for political purposes. Abuse of power. Similar to Nixon trying to use the CIA to obstruct justice by telling the FBI to halt their investigation. But worse because it is targeting tax paying citizens. Much worse.

      • plsilverman

        where’s an iota of proof of a “crime”?

    • Jeff Webb

      Based on your side’s fixation on President Bush to this day, you seem to be a big fan of latching on.

      What’s the matter? People still not buying the crap about things being better than they really are? Can’t handle your precious little “leader” being expected to lead?

      • plsilverman

        aw, cute. Obama no “leader”! right from the freaking Foxnews playlist. I saw that episode. O’Reilly looked disgusted when he had to read that copy.

      • legal eagle

        I can always tell when right wingers are out of ideas they use the term ‘lack of leadership”. Another vague and generic talking point used by critics with limited IQs…

        • Ted Crawford

          Surely you jest! When A US Senator he votes 90+% of the time “Present”! As President, he knows NOTHING about Fast and Furious (as does his Attorney General), NOTHING about any Terrorist Attacks in Benghazi (spontaneous riot), NOTHING about the IRS Targeting, NOTHING about Justice Departments assult on Media!
          IF(!?!?) He truly knows NOTHING about these, and many other actions of his Administration, that’s a Text-Book defination of incompentent leadership!

          • plsilverman

            any proof he knew about targeting the IRs, etc? there is none. and tell us why a President WOULD know about something like that? assault on Media? FROM A PRESIDENT WHO HAD A CHANCE TO BRING BACK THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE and did not? who gave FOXNEWS a FRONT ROW seat at all press conferences?

          • Ted Crawford

            As I stated to my Republican friends, during the Iran-Contra Crisis when they claimed that Reagan didn’t know about it: Stop, for just a moment, and ask yourself one question: Do you actually want to believe that actions of this magnitude, with these far reaching potential ramifications, could actually be carried out WITHOUT the Presidents knowledge? How secure do you really feel if you do? If this is true, WHO THE HE!! is in charge?!?!

        • Jeff Webb

          Sorry, but no snide little dismissal will change the fact you’re defending the indefensible.

          By all means, keep up the distractions, deflections, and the projection. It’s cool watching you flail.

      • plsilverman

        fixation on Bush? the guy who should be in an orange jump suit for allowing his VP to play commander in chief? why be mindful of a guy who basically directed 4+ thousand American deaths and 100,000 Iraqi civilians? shucks, that’s ancient history! we got an AP scandal to worry about now!

    • Joel Wischkaemper

      Maaaa goodness legal eagal.. (Whoe.. legal eagle??) Don’t you know that is illegal? I guess not.

      Sooo… what do you do in your country pal?

      • legal eagle

        What is illegal?

    • JmThms

      Notice how you all in the liberal establishment were all over Nixon’s escapades ‘like a dog to a bone’, but will have nothing to do with those of the Obama administration? Gee, wonder why. Try some intellectual honesty for a change. Where there is smoke there is fire. And there is smoke seeping out everywhere!

  • veeper

    The democratic party (this means voters as well as politicians) has become the decadent party…..the party of decline.

    I was once a democrat….I didn’t change my thoughts, beliefs or political stance.

    I stayed in the same place and the democratic party moved out from under me…

    Now, I see the same thing happening with the republican party.

    I’m still the same….but, another political party is moving out from under me.

    I have watched democrats and their voters fall so far in the crapper…I can no longer have any respect for anyone calling themselves a democrat…..even my long time friends and neighbors.

    First clinton then obama…..democrats….the party of no respect.

    • plsilverman

      Dem. Party, party of decline? winning two consecutive Presidential elections, and poised to take over the Congress. GOP is in decline because they caved to the most extreme elements, as directed by the Koch Bros., hand in glove, with ALEC, and Newscorp.

      • veeper

        he he he…

        yep…decline …

        complete decadence….

        name dropper….ask your nurse for a new thought…

        • plsilverman

          name dropper? yeah…I earned that right – re. Fox -after watching Fox since 1996. “ask [my] nurse”? why would a gentleman like yourself resort to such low class behavior on this vaunted site?
          are you a “name dropper” when you “drop” all your extremist stand-bys? :)

          • veeper

            what extremist stand-bys would that be p silverman

            your childish attempts at insulting me don’t work…pal.

            I understand how old men operate..

          • legal eagle

            If you understand how frustrated old men operate then you must be a big fan of Bernie Goldberg, Bill O’Reilly and Charles “Count Dracula” Krauthammer.

          • veeper

            another name dropper…

            when you have nothing to say….

            type a bunch of names….

          • plsilverman

            well, you typed Clinton and Obama above in one post. personally, I like lists of names…esp. when they are relevant to the issue at hand. I would not care if you injected John Birch, Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, as emblematic of your political views.

          • veeper

            p silverman,

            you’re an obama troll…..a lonely old man trolling political forums to get attention and create arguments.

            you’re whole purpose here is to argue.

            One can always tell when obama’s having his BUTT handed to him when he instructs his lemmings to hit the internet and twitter to whine about Bush and the republicans…

            you’re a sad lonely old liberal troll…..

          • plsilverman

            gee, I’m an “old man” who is “childish”…that’s a wash, isn’t it? what is your obsession with ageism? :)…let’s see, I name drop (newscorp, fox, etc.) but you never have. I’m very impressed.

          • veeper

            you should be impressed by me, p silverman, and anyone else over 10 years of age…

            what’s “ageism” old man ?

      • Lucky3511

        Yea and how many times did each democrat vote wand how many adjustable machines were turned to democrat to make this happen. Like Harry Reid with 10% vote on exit count yet he one. New machines in action.

        • legal eagle

          Another conspiracy? There is medication for that?

      • Integrity

        It is the party of moral decline.

        • plsilverman

          unlike the GOP…with its’ new path to renew segregation… and justify the actions of the slam dunkers. and to nullify the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

          • Jeff Webb

            Stop with the false accusations and the hyperbole. No Republican plans on reinstating bigoted democrat policies.

      • JmThms

        Its always been a lie that the GOP ‘caves in to the most extreme elements’. Your media arm (the MSM) constantly tries to perpetuate that lie. Look at photos of Tea Party folks. Normal, law abiding citizens who bathe frequently and have life experience under their belt. Now look at photos of these so-called ‘Occupy’ people. Stupid, weird, incoherent young idiots who don’t seem to know what the word ‘bath’ means and leave their party areas behind littered with drug paraphernalia and crap. Yet the MSM tries to have us believe that the Tea Parties are full of racists and ‘extremists’ yet say nothing of these liberal idiots!!! The height of corruption.

    • plsilverman

      yeah, them Demz – no respect. Let’s go back to the Gipper and reminisce about the “Beirut 241″ , firing Oliver North, firing 11,000 American workers for political reasons, leaving his successor a 2.6 trillion $$ dollar debt after raising taxes 11 times. Let’s all remember the great Cheney-VBush II adm.

      • veeper

        you old name dropper, you…he he he

        a sure sign of a old man stuck in the past…

        your boy, obama says…..

        that was a long time ago….

        call your nurse and tell her you need your pills….

        • plsilverman

          “your boy, Obama”? hehehe

      • legal eagle

        Republicans get no respect just like Rodney Dangerfield…

      • Lucky3511

        Anything like the 24 Trillion dollar debt the great dictator will leave, if we can ever prize him out of the Oval Office

        • plsilverman

          really? spending at a lower rate than the Gipper and W.? guess what, he had 11+ trillion $$$ of debt handed to him, plus 2 unfunded wars, unfunded pharma., and an absurd and very costly tax relief program, and has had to spend about 4 trillion $$$$ just on the interest alone. but with the ending of the two Cheney-Bush wars and the restoration of the auto industry plus about 4 million new healthcare jobs – and anticipating the end of the GOP War on the Workforce, the debt will start to go down. to the consternation of the hard rightees.

    • legal eagle

      What’s wrong with decadence? Perhaps you should get off your couch an try some..

      • veeper

        No thanks you can have the sewer…..

        • Guest

          NOW who’s “dropping”?

    • Lucky3511

      Well said, there are no real Americans left in politics

      • plsilverman

        what about Murkowsky, Pawlenty, Mayor Bloomberg, Bernie Sanders, McCain?

  • Brian Fr Langley

    For the left it’s all about the language. A local pro choice group in a large metropolitan City spent years trying to ge the major daily newspapers to re label pro life groups, not as pro life when referred to in the paper but rather as “anti choice”. Did you know that today if you oppose abortion and gay marriage your described as “hard right” How about the new moniker for climate warming opponents? Even scientists with conflicting data? Climate change oppononts are now called “deniers”. “Hard right”? “Deniers”? The point is simple, Nazi’s are found on the “hard right” and so are white supremist holocaust deniers. Not being happy to label the mainstream beliefs of traditional conservatism as the benign centrist ideology it is, they would rather have them described as execrable Nazi’s. As for being so called “pro choice”, for the left, liberty is their tool, not their goal.

  • JohnInMA

    It seems to me that the abuse of power by the IRS is the one scandal that has united the most within the elected class with the largest number of the electorate. Everyone wants blood from that agency. If the House GOP cannot figure out a way to bring in as many people as possible to testify and to press for prosecution of as many wrongdoers as they can find, it will be the biggest squandered opportunity in a generation, or longer.

    And don’t progressives always transfer responsibility and blame away from most victims that they find suitable as an oppressed group? They not only transfer some of the blame for actions of jihadists back to the West, but even common criminals of suitable victim status (i.e. the right race, gender or ‘gender identity’, ideology, etc.). It’s seems to all be a part of mentality to “cure” instead of “punish”, which rarely seems to work. The only certain is that perpetrators – or in their view the ‘real victims’ – are empowered.

    • plsilverman

      The House *should* bring in as many witnesses as possible. To ensure a Democratic takeover of the Congress.

      • veeper

        he he he he he…

      • Lucky3511

        Problem is there are more votes for democrats in some counties than there are people. Let us see an open look at some of these counties and identify every one who voted.

        • plsilverman

          now, now….there are a lot of illegal voters….but next to NONE of illegal VOTES! a study was recently done of between 30 – 35 million votes and about *7* were found to be actually illegal. that’s why we have election board challengers who want to keep their job.

        • legal eagle

          What county? What election? What are you talking about?

      • JohnInMA

        Pretty lousy math there, plsilverman. Show me where the opinion of the electorate FAVORS the IRS and their actions. Then you can crow about some imaginary takeover.

        • plsilverman

          ok, let’s be guided by the opinion of the masses, sans public referendum. then the theme song from American Idol can be added to our pantheon of Patriotic anthems.

          • JohnInMA

            You aren’t making much sense. Your point was about flipping the House due to ELECTIONS. How could the opinions of the electorate not matter? It seems you simply type ideological statements, not thoughtful ones to make your point.

            You could argue that the GOP could be harmed if they appear to be spending too much time on the IRS investigation, since the electorate still views jobs and the debt/economy as the biggest issues by far. But you didn’t………

    • plsilverman

      are you referring to Travon Martin? Are we supposed to feel less sorry for him because you feel that African Americans no longer face discrimination?

    • plsilverman

      we have a penal system. to punish AND cure. how about that?

      • Lucky3511

        And the head of that is the biggest crook in America

        • plsilverman

          leave Boehner out of this!

      • JohnInMA

        But progressives disdain the role of punishment and avoid the record of attempts to cure.

        • plsilverman

          You’re not wrong about that. I lean left but think there’s a bit too much sentimentality when it comes to violent criminals.