Don’t you get that if you and your employer don’t have to pay inflated insurance premiums, you’ll have more than enough to pay the added taxes and come out ahead under a government-sponsored plan (especially single payer)? No one is suggesting ther wouldn’t be a tax increase. But that would be more than compensated for by the elimination of insurance premiums. Especially once the 30+% differential between the insurance companies’ premium intake v. benefits paid is shaved off. Medicare’s is only about 2%.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRPYTiN5Oso

If not you then- whom? If not today- then when?

Thanks Bernie you are a pal

regards
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Stocks spike to 1-year highs
Economic optimism helps Wall Street extend gains, with the Dow, Nasdaq and S&P hitting the highest points since fall ‘08.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Stocks gained Wednesday, pushing Wall Street to its highest level in a year, with a rise in industrial production and a spike in commodity prices and equities fueling the advance.

The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) gained 108 points or 1.1%, according to early tallies, closing at the highest point since Oct. 6, 2008. The S&P 500 (SPX) index rose 14 points or 1.4% and closed at its highest point since Oct. 3 of last year. The Nasdaq composite (COMP) rose 27 points or 1.3% and was on track to close at its highest point since Sept. 26, 2008.

Stocks ended Tuesday’s session at the highest point in nearly a year after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said the recession is very likely over although the job market will still struggle. The upbeat economic sentiment stretched over into Wednesday’s session and was helped along by the day’s economic news.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/16/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm?postversion=2009091616

If the same outrage was directed at the ‘faith based community’, we’d have witnessed the end of the Faith Based Initiatives some time ago.

Funny how a white boy preacher can bugger a kid, or do meth and engage in homosexual conduct, or seduce a parishioner and destroy a marriage, or just flat out steal their church into bankruptcy and “all is forgiven”, but let a couple of black women talk to a phony pimp and his girl, offer a little bad tax evasion advice, and Congress itself has to act against the organization.

But, no, no, there’s no racism here. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here. All the restraint that the Dems have shown about investigating the Bush Gang, and the righties are going to jump all over for an SP for ACORN. Shameless

Obama lied about what?

Rush Holt started his speech by saying– “Americans are dying younger, living sicker lives and paying more for health care than ever before”– WHERE IS HE GETTING HIS STATISTICS from???????? Is he right??? I don’t think so!!!!!!!

This is a big wake up call for me– I really didn’t think our senators and rep’s were so out of touch with the American people !! But they are!!

I was outraged by his bare faced lies all in an effort to deliver his preset “speech” to ram gov’t health care down our throats even though the majority of Americans are happy with their current insurance. He admits this but then went on to say with gov’t health care it will be more effective, cost less-really nothing at all and be very high quality patient care. He is out of his mind!!

I am a true believer in The Founding Father’s ideals for this country and it was so outrageous how Holt went on with his gibberous comments about how tens of millions of Americans do not have health care now (not true!! ) & how our Social Security system is good shape, and how the Gov’t Health Care proposal will “save” us money and how he is involved in a bill that would recover carbon emissions and he would then collect the carbon emissions in a big balloon and stick it under the ocean floor somewhere— This will only cost us a billion dollars & how “He” wants to save the planet from global warming–He also flat out said that doctors are currently cheating the system getting paid by ordering unnecessary tests on their patients. And then went onto say Capitalism is the reason for the failure of the health care system as we know it today. He likes Socialism. Share the wealth around. Take it from the rich (who happen to work very hard for their income) and give it to the poor (people who don’t work very hard to support themselves). He thinks that the era where the most wealthy morally owe it to the poor (who can’t afford health care, or just don’t want it) the commitment of health care even if a bill has to be passed to mandate this. This guy is out of his mind!!!!!!!!!!!!

He also addressed the question of abortion being paid for by the proposed gov’t health care – his answer to this question was to say that 40% of abortions are now covered by private insurance companies anyway. IS THIS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!! Other than medical necessity due to life threatening illness to the mother would I predict that an abortion would ever be paid for by a person’s private insurance. This statistic is a LIE!!!!– All Rush Holt did was lie!!!

His format for this so called “town hall meeting” was to submit questions into a box and then the mayor of the town of Tinton Falls would then pick the questions at random and read the questions to Holt for an answer. Holt never once answered any question — not one. He had a set agenda and basically just read a preplanned speech in response to the questions.

I questioned him in person at the end as he was walking out and put it to him that I was very dissatisfied with his lack of answering any questions on point. Like the questions that were repeated to him asking, how will we pay for the gov’t health plan? and how will you get doctors to participate? and what qualifications will these doctors have?- will they be US trained or come from a 3rd world country where health care and quality of life is so much less than our great nation’s?–and why is the gov’t health plan allowing illegals to participate?– He stopped me and said he had answered all of these questions but I was just not listening to him during his responses (That I was making such a disturbance trying to interrupt him)— He said he had answered all of these questions to the best of his ability– I then replied , “well then respectfully you don’t have the ability to answer these questions because you did not even attempt to do so.

When I answered out of turn during his carefully pre-planned speech, the mainly democratic audience tried to shut me up and the few others who were also obviously opposed to gov’t health care as well. Holt had the local police come down the isle and stand by our row in an effort to intimidate us to shut up and yet the police just kept letting the Dem’s clap away~ laughing and giddy at everything this guy said– which was all a bunch of BS!!

What happened to my 1st amendment right– you know Freedom of Speech??

It was like being spoken to by a dictator-shut up-sit back- listen -clap in agreement with the speaker or risk being intimidated & thrown out & arrested by the police– IS this my America??????????

Rush Holt is the BIGGEST liar I have ever seen-other than Obama—saying the gov’t health plan would not cost any more than what it costs to run the health care system now for 2 months currently–???–what does this even mean?? He also said that Tort Reform would not make a miniscule difference in reforming our current health care system. He said that frivolous lawsuits, if eliminated, would not make a difference in saving costs for our health care system now. Where is he getting his information from???? From NO WHERE!!!!!!!??????

He also said that Medicare today is run 97% efficient. How does one respond to this statement?

In closing this town hall meeting was a very bad scene–(Un-American) — Rush Holt is living in Fantasy Land –where there is an insurance store (as he tells the tale)– A store in Neverland that will allow the average American to pick your own health plan. And if you pick the gov’t plan it will be practically free– and you can keep your doctor and will live longer, happier and with more money saved. Hearing this garbage made it a clear indication that Obama won and he will get what “HE” wants– not what we want or is right or good for this country-sounds like a dictator to me!!!!!–

People in the crowd kept saying to me “We won– Obama Won!!!– get over it and gov’t health care is going through. They were saying to me, “Your side lost– get over it!”

I was obviously viewed as a heckler but what I really am is an American, who feels like all my rights are being stripped away. I am not embarrassed to say I have no moral obligation to ensure that a certain amount of uninsured people in this country get health care. No one is denied medical treatment irrespective of your health care status now. Just because a certain number of Americans are uninsured and many choose to be so, should not be the impetus to change the entire US health care system especially since the majority of Americans are “happy” with their current health care. Do we really want to live in this country where we are FORCED to buy health care? What will the gov’t force us to do next? –Join a civilian army perhaps?

But how do we stop this from going through????????? –God Help Us!!

Keep up the good work!

Bob Brickner from Fairfax Station, Virginia

President Obama says, “If you like your health care plan you can keep it.”
This statement is not true.

When health care reform passes you will no longer be able to buy the kind of health insurance you have now.
For example, if the plan you have now excludes coverage for preexisting conditions, that will go away.
If they have a cap on what they will pay out if you are really sick, that will go away.
If they want to drop you when you are sick or raise your rates so you can’t afford it, that will go away as well.
You will no longer be denied life saving procedures by insurance company death panels like you have now.

So when Obama says that you can keep your health plan, don’t believe him. He’s lying to you.
He’s going to force you to get a better plan for less money whether you like it or not.

http://marc.perkel.com

(grounded.gif ) – Bush’s suspension from flying; “Reason for Suspension” Failure to accomplish annual medical examination.” (9/29/72; confirming verbal orders of 8/1/72) (James Bath is also suspended on this same document.)

Too scared, too drunk, or too snorted up?
It was only a simple physical after all.