Democrats Care, Republicans Hate You

O CaresGood day, class.  Today we’re going to discuss the midterm elections, which are only five months away.  Today’s class will be short.  The lesson is simple.

This is all you need to know:  President Obama and his merry band of Democrats care about you.  Republicans don’t.  In fact, Republicans hate you.  That’s the president’s story and he’s sticking to it.

I can now dismiss class because you now know everything you need to know.  But I’ll take just a few more minutes of your time to fill in a few blanks — because if I don’t you’ll just go back to the dorm and smoke something illegal.

Every chance he gets Barack Obama tells voters that he and his Democratic entourage are for raising the minimum wage.  He knows most Americans also favor raising the minimum wage.  He tells voters Republicans don’t want to raise the minimum wage, which they don’t.  This is a potential plus for the Democrats for obvious reasons.

What the president doesn’t tell the American voter is that the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office has predicted that raising the minimum wage would cost the economy about a half a million jobs.  Yes, higher pay would help those who get it.  But it will hurt those who don’t get hired in the first place – or those who get fired because the small business owner can’t afford his new costs.

Mr. Obama also tells the voters that he and other Democrats are for equal pay for equal work.  Hey, who isn’t?  Republicans, he also tells them, are against new legislation that would enshrine the concept into law.

Again, he leaves something out.  First, there are laws already on the books that prohibit pay discrimination based on gender.  Second, the law would be a jobs act for trial lawyers who would bring tons of lawsuits alleging discrimination when in fact other factors almost certainly would have contributed to the unequal pay.  (As I’ve written about a million times:  If women really did get paid less for doing the same work, what company would hire men at all?)

Since many Americans fit into the low-information classification of voters – a nice way of saying they don’t know what’s going on about anything that doesn’t have the name Kardashian attached to it – the president’s strategy may work.  We’re hard-wired to like people who care.  We don’t like people who don’t care.

Besides, the Republicans lack something crucial in the United States of Entertainment:  A charismatic, dramatic spokesman to make their case.  A dozen different people putting forth conservative arguments can’t compete with one attractive president who comes alive on the campaign trail.

And we know what Republicans are against, but what are they for?  Well, they’re for getting to the bottom of the Benghazi mess.  That’s a good thing, except for one factor:  The American people don’t care all that much about Benghazi.

The IRS scandal is another big deal.  You’d think everyone would want to get to the bottom of that one.  But, it hasn’t quite turned out that way.

Fast and Furious?  Walk down the street and ask some stranger what he or she thinks about it.  You’ll get a blank look.

And the president is getting us out of Afghanistan — a war the American people got tired of a long, long time ago.

The GOP may have better ideas on most big issues, but too many Americans just aren’t smart enough to care.

They do care about the Affordable Care Act, because that one hits home.  And that could still help Republicans. But the Democratic strategy that says, “Let’s fix it and make it better,” – while unrealistic given the immense complexity of the law – also has appeal to low information voters.

The unknown for Democrats is whether they can get the vote out.  If they can, they will avoid a GOP tsunami in November. Mr. Obama has shown that he can not only rev up the base, but also get independents to turn out – but that’s when he is running.  But in the fall of 2014, Barack Obama isn’t running for anything.  So there’s a good chance Democrats may sit this one out — especially a key contingent of the Democratic base, union workers who aren’t happy with the president’s failure to green-light the XL pipeline, a decision which has cost them  good-paying jobs.  They’re not happy, either, with the likelihood  that their insurance premiums will be going up thanks to the higher costs of ObamaCare (to keep 26 year olds on their parents policies, for example) and the pending tax on gold-plated plans that many union workers enjoy.

No chance Republicans will stay home.  If you don’t count drones, there’s nothing they like about this president’s policies.

So that’s what it comes down to, class.  Can the president – who campaigns very well but governs very badly – convince enough Americans that he and his fellow Democrats care and Republicans don’t?

I’m sure you all knew that that was the crucial question.  But in critical times it’s important to state the obvious.  Now go out and enjoy your summer.

 

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  • Ninetyninepercent

    Go to hell GOP Asshole

  • buckrodgers

    I wonder if their is a kind hearted developer who would be willing to relocate Kristine Powers to Modesta California, where illegal aliens are being shipped to,disrupting the daily lives of hard working Americans, I’m also wondering if she would be welcomed with open arms and marching bands in a working class community,after all she is a liberal who has said America should open their doors to children who come to this country illegally but make sure they don’t move into my neighborhood, because i can’t be bothered with illegal aliens or the rest of Americas unwanted,what would my neighbors think, after all I’m to busy trying to be the self-appointed spokesperson for minorities that I just can’t be bothered, spending every single day trying to help ta bunch of kids who are being shipped into this country without any adult supervision,,because I’m a white liberal who didn’t mid using her white skin and white privilege to get a job in a industry mind working that is predominately white, i’m sure it also doesn’t bother bother her if she lives in a wealthy upscale neighborhood,where like-minded whites burn crosses on the lawns of the downtroting that want to move into her neighborhood,because she is a liberal and she cares,mostly about herself, Kristine Powers like most liberal in this country are hated and dispised, she is willing to cause havoc and destroy peoples lives as long as it doesn’t affect her lifestyle, so going down to Modesta California and trying to explain to that middle class community why they illegal aliens have no business in her all white segregated upper class liberal neighborhood is out of the question, these liberal thinkers are way to busy thinking of ways to help the unwanted to be bothered actually trying to take care of them. so contact Miss Powers and ask her to relocate to Modesta California, give up her lucrative e job and volunteer to take care of the kids she claims she cares about. so how about miss powers do you care about the kids or yourself, are you willing to make the same sacrifices that your asking other to do, or are you just another uppity loud mouth liberal who is so despised that leaving your liberal bubble and going down to Modesta is just not an option.

  • buckrodgers

    I saw Kristine Powers a liberal pundit taking about the crises on the border, of course she said it’s all about the kids, so let them in, really, then what, is Miss Powers going to spend her money to support them, is she going to adopt or sponsor an immigrant child that came to the United States without any adult supervision, of course not, she probably going to run to her upscale affluent neighborhood, get together with her liberal neighbors and say did you see how compassionate I was today, I spoke up for a bunch of kids , here we have a liberal who could care less what happens to those kids growing up in America without parents, liberals don’t like to do the dirty work, they expect other Americans to clean up the mess they caused, all they want to do is feel good about themselves, then ride off into the sunset.

  • buckrodgers

    Republicans like to tell you right to your face their going to screw the middle class, while Democrats like to give you a big kiss, before they screw the middle class because when it’s all said and done their the winners, the middle class doesn’t. ‘t have a chance.

  • falcon7204

    Until humans can change their very nature, we’re screwed.

  • Jeff Metz

    Its going to be increasingly hard for the GOP to win elections. People vote for political leaders like they vote for “Dancing with the Stars.” The Democratic Party promises free gifts. The GOP promises opportunity. Its hard to beat Santa Clause. http://www.thepoliticalspectator.org

    • Bob Olden

      It’s also hard to beat someone who has no moral underpinnings and will easily justify lying, cheating, or any other immorality if they don’t get caught (they can just delete the emails) as long as they achieve their goal to remain in power. We have no clue how much underhanded, illegal, sinister misconduct is going on, but if the smoke is any indication, there is an awful big fire going on.

      • Joel Wischkaemper

        I agree. I have thought for a while that a polygraph is an imperative if we ever want to get our country back.

        But I think it is far, far MORE important to move all the spending that is done on Americans.. the give back on taxes.. down, and to the States. Even better, to the Counties. Then you look at the segregation policies in some communities and that very frequently was a product of local government. Is THAT what we will wind up with albeit, something new, different, and just as noxious?
        We can develop rules and deal with this issue. I am absolutely certain that United We Will Stand, and Divided We Will Fall. But moving those expenses, and the business of getting the money to pay for those expenses, are far, far better done at the local level. And that does give us a chance to nail the bad guys, and hang together.

  • Mark Stephens

    The dems care so much, just ask the Benghazi 4.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Of course Democrats care, and they prove it with their policies on a regular basis. They care exactly like a doting family member who coddles every sort of unethical, immoral behavior. Like a kindly uncle who who doesn’t have to worry about the consequences of his nephews and nieces bad choices. No accountability required. Easy abortion, easy welfare, easy sex, easy divorce, easy, easy, easy. Not like their bad parents, who think sometimes a little discipline and accountability go a long way in developing what we used to call “Character”. (you know that thing Martin Luther King Jr. said we should judge folks by) A baptist Preacher himself, he knew well the proverb,”he who holds (spares) his rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him”. To all you lost souls imprisoned into socialist dependancies, as Telly Salvalas said in the cop series Kojac, “Who loves you baby”. I can assure you, it’s not the coddling (Uncle) Democrats.

  • JASVN67

    BERNE, IF DEMOCRATS ARE A PARTY THAT TRUELY CARE, WHY ARE THEY MOVING TO SILENCE FREE SPEACH? See this link below:
    http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/05/cruz-41-senate-democrats-co-sponsor
    They truly want to shut us up and this is not the first time they have tried to!

    • Joel Wischkaemper

      That was a tongue in cheek comment JAS, and decidedly worth a horse laugh.

  • Tom Morrow

    You right wingers hate gays, Muslims, women who don’t know their place, poor people, science, anyone who “wants to break down the White Christian Male Power Structure” as your benefactor and Patron Saint O’Reilly puts it. And of course you hate liberals and a special hatred for Obama. You are the self-proclaimed Stupid Party who vowed to change direction and got stupider. Connect with voters? They will have to connect with you or they won’t be allowed to vote at all. Your dirty tricks will fail and will only make them more determined than ever to vote (against you, Curses! Foiled Again!). You are a hate group united and driven by hatred. And make no mistake. The country hates you back.

    • Walter Peck

      You say such original things. Did you come up with them all by yourself?

    • Jeff Webb

      Your position is noted, and we’ll be sure to let you know when we give a crap.

      • Tom Morrow

        Oh but you do Webb-Master! You cannot handle the truth. So you must delete it. Speaking of not giving a crap, have you checked out the collective yawn non-response to your articles?

  • D Parri

    For those who are not focused enough to read my comment all the way through, I have recommended raising the minimum wage to be on a par with the average wage rate for most doctors and lawyers in the U.S.

    Raising it to the level of journalists is going just a little too far I’m afraid.

    • Tova Feinman

      Only if the average minimum wage earner learns to cure diseases and save human lives. You get paid what your work is worth. Do something valuable, you get better pay. Simple equation. Mm, flipping burgers vs pediatric open heart surgery. You pick who is worth more.

      • D Parri

        So, you actually think that journalists are rewarded–on average–more than your typical open heart surgeon?

        It is, i.e., my comment, is what is commonly referred to as humor. I thought that the comparison of journalists to lawyers and doctors would make it clear enough.

        You are not an attorney or surgeon are you? If yes, what state? I think that I will want to go somewhere else.

      • Joel Wischkaemper

        As an adult, clearly the burger flipping is worth more regardless of what they put in the mystery meat.

  • D Parri

    Bernie, Bernie, Bernie, my goodness gracious. I know that you were wanting to instill some humor into your article–”class”, “enjoy your summer”, but you should realize that it is far past time to make light of these issues, the GOP needs to come up with a winning hand to play in the next round of political poker.

    I offer just a few suggestions that you may feel free to use as you see fit. Remember, the GOP needs to get out ahead of the Dem’s instead of merely ‘keeping up with the Jones’s’.

    First, and this will take care of almost all issues, raise the minimum wage level to equal the average hourly rate for doctors and lawyers in the U.S.

    As the wages go up, then the need for ObamaCare will virtually vanish in the blink of an eye. The ability to contract for legal services will expand for everyone and our nation will reap the benefits of that ‘harvest’. The class of people that should be expected to benefit, i.e., those whose income is either at or below poverty level, is the largest in our nation. Finally, think of the additional tax revenues that will begin pouring in–our national debt will be paid off in, oh…say, 2 years? (who cares, what is natural debt, anyway?)

    So, Mr. Goldberg, please reconsider some of that remarkably genius advice that you’ve been handing out and think about recommending a minimum wage law that would guarantee everyone in the U.S. of earning $200–$500–perhaps even $1,000 an hour. Not as much as the average journalist, but–hey–people really shouldn’t expect too much, should they?

    • doc holiday

      What is interesting is that the numbers now coming in show that job growth is strongest in those states with the highest minimum wage. I think that shoots down the republican argument that rasing the rate will kill jobs seem the opposite is true.

      • D Parri

        If you think that job growth is great in those states now, then just wait until the minimum wage laws guarantee a bottom-line threshold of $500(?) – $750(?) – $1,000(?) per hour for all workers, skilled or unskilled.

        I don’t know why both parties aren’t jumping at the chance to be the ones to initiate such a law. Who knows, we may be able to eradicate world hunger shortly afterwards.

        Why do they continue to pussy-foot around with the solution to the problem and dilly-dally with a measly $15 – $20 per hour minimum wage rates. That’s plum crazy.

  • JASVN67

    Berne another informative piece as always. Let me just say that progressive liberals are a dagger at the heartland of America, they want to see its demise. I like the way you phrase it, “the low information voter.” To them, and others who haven’t read it, get yourself a copy of the book, “America Imagine a World Without Her” written by the emigrant from India, Dinesh D’souza. He states the reason for the second sentence used here quite well! Now as always, these progressives will demonize and marginalize his writings and movies. Why?
    In a word, Obama. He, (D’souza) writes from heart and speaks of the truth, something the left doesn’t want America to know!

  • Lougjr1

    There you go again Bernie, Your comment has made everything clear. That is to all those Americans who still have a useful un drugged brain and can still understand English !

  • Daniel

    On a brighter note, I have 5 medical marijuana shops within a 5 block radius of my home here in San Bernardino, Ca Bernie. They now offer free delivery. One shop has a new sign out front that says “Gift Packages?” Since San Bernardino was in the news this morning for being No 1 in the nation for teenage unemployment (54%), I thought I would brag about one of our other charming qualities.

    • Walter Peck

      Don’t you mean “on a higher note” ?

      • Joel Wischkaemper

        Both.. both. Obviously.

  • sniper2535

    It seems we are at the point in history where the media and their agenda are too big for the right to overcome. I don’t even think Reagan could pull it off. I’ve resigned to buying gold and chickens. (and guns to protect both)

    • D Parri

      And the reason why they say that “gold lasts forever” is because you can’t eat gold. Chickens, well that’s a different story.

  • VinBick

    If the GOP does not enunciate a clear, simply plan of action to improve the economy, lower taxes and regulations, and how they are going to overcome the mess called Oamacare, they will not win in November and again in 2016.
    A strong, conservative that everyone can back is needed NOW!

    • Seattle Sam

      Paul Ryan has done exactly what you asked. Read it. http://roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/plan/default.aspx

      • VinBick

        Love Paul Ryan. He can be a great president, and capable of cleaning up the stinky BO mess. Carson or Cruz are ideal running mates for Ryan.
        From Bernie’s website to God’s ears.

        • Gloria

          I love him too, but he is too ordinary for the average Karashian voter to appreciate.

        • Joel Wischkaemper

          Naa. Same old, same old. Lets go for Jeff Sessions coupled with Laura Ingram. Jeff knows Congress as well as LBJ did, and LBS got the job done for Kennedy. With Jeff in the power seat, we could get a whole lot done.
          And.. anyone who has watched Laura Ingram in action knows she can rip the hand that would slap us clear off their arms.

          • VinBick

            Sessions is an outstanding statesman; Laura Ingram has the talent to lead, too.

          • doc holiday

            Like the pied piper they would lead you off the pier to your death much as they did in Iraq, a party that values death and destruction as long as they make money on it.

    • Joel Wischkaemper

      When the Government enunciates a clear simple plan about ANYTHING, it will be the end of the world.

    • doc holiday

      It will not be a winning message because their ideas are false and that is becoming clearer by the day.

  • FloridaJim

    Conservatives lack any portion of the media, indoctrinated by 22 years of schooling learning to trust progressives and despise Conservatives/Tea Partiers, Republicans and the other names given to anyone opposing Progressivism. Unless we unearth an articulate person who can sell our ideas of small government, term limits, balanced budget and equal opportunity for all we will not get our message over the drone of the 60′s radicals and their offspring controlling everything, poorly. To have a booming America we must rid ourselves of the 60′s radicals and all their ideas which have failed under Wilson, FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton and now Obama after each a Conservative had to come in and clean up their messes over and over again.

  • Stilloptimistic

    If a :”Romney/Ryan” ticket could not defeat Obama after four years of a stagnant economy why are the Repubs so sure he will not come up with the votes for his “Do what the president would want us to do” congressional ducklings.
    We need: Term limits
    Line-item-veto
    New tax system where everyone pays the same percentage tax on income.
    Full disclosure on all major bills in congress with internet
    transparency and citizen involvement.
    A full-time congress with accountability to constituents.
    A new attitude where the congress realizes it works for the citizens and not the people (special interests and corporations) who pay
    them.
    Etc., etc., etc.
    We have elected and ignored the workings of this and previous congresses to the point where they are so entrenched that we don’t have a chance of democracy anytime in the future.

    We all know what needs to be done but congress holds the reins and calls the shots and our opinions and suggestions fall on deaf ears.

    • Seattle Sam

      Why should they listen to you when you keep reelecting 90%+ of the incumbents? Let’s place the blame where it belongs.

      • Joel Wischkaemper

        The good-ole-boy circus in Washington DC makes everyone up there look like Mr. Goody-Goody two shoes. That .. Would my honorable friend from yield me two minutes business is going to cause a stoke on me if they don’t stop.
        I think most Americans see voting as a hopeless, pointless exercise. The very thing that made the Republic a very good government in 1776 are items that constrict, and kill popular will. We must change the Republic to something else that is far more responsive and TRANSPARENT. If not, another two chickens in every pot President will put this country in a pine box.
        I don’t see a way to do it. I advocate moving spending down to local levels, but even that cannot be done in the long term, and more of the same next time around will be done by very determined men who want to tap into the Tax Payer fools.

  • VermontAmerican

    A president “who campaigns very well but governs very badly” is what’s known as a demagogue. He’s good at dividing the country.

    • doc holiday

      God how you make me laugh. He is dividing the country but not a word about a group of republicans that got together on the day he was sworn into office and vowed to not give him any legislative wins so that he would be a one term President. Or the fact they opposed his appointing authority by filibustering more than any time in history. They go after him on everything he says or does but yet they gave Bush a pass on screwing up the country and almost bringing on another great depression.

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/07/1275771/-Obama-v-Reagan-Fun-comparison-I-did-to-piss-off-a-wingnut-on-Reagan-s-B-day

  • gbauti

    We’re living in a Lala land where people are uneducated when it comes of what’s going-on to their surroundings. However, with respect to entertainment, most people can respond to what is trending.

    What’s wrong with this scenario? The American people don’t care as long as they receive help from the government?

    With regard to increasing the minimum wage to $15, small businesses will get hurt. Who would be affected by it? It would create unemployment and more businesses shutdowns because of it.

    With respect to Republican Party, they should create what is appealing to the American people. Study the demographic of each state in order to get ahead with Democrats. As long as they don’t change their tune of “small government” the American people won’t buy their platform.

    Since 1930s, the Republican Party’s message is about small governmnet up to this date.

    • Joel Wischkaemper

      I can see your point and I would agree to the change. But we have to move the spending money distribution away from the Central Forces and down toward the people who pay the taxes. Move it down to the local level, and the local newspapers will be the only rag in town to read. If the mayor digs a 20 foot sewer line for 2 billion dollars.. people wake up.. and vote.

    • doc holiday

      More of the stupid arguments from the GOP news flash for you those states that have raised the minimum wage have had the fastest job growth, read it for yourself.

      http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/07/03/3456393/minimum-wage-state-increase-employment/

  • Gloria

    Who wouldn’t love Robin Hood (obama) and his band of merry men (pelosi, reid, schumer, et als)? They are a compassionate caring bunch who sing songs while taking things from nasty rich people and placing them into the outstretched hands of those sympathetic poor folks. Washington DC is now Sherwood Forest!
    The rhetoric goes like this “Republicans (all of us) hate women, old people, clean environments, sick folks, and all that is good and true, and will work diligently & tirelessly to rid the US of such claptrap. Oh wait a minute, maybe there are some of those among us?
    You are 100% right in what you say, especially about lacking a representative glamorous celebrity like spokesperson to shine the light of truth and fact on the campaign trail to show up the slick spin machine the Dems have. Twas ever thus.

    • 4deuce

      The legend of Robin Hood conveniently supplied a happy ending – the return of King Richard. What might have been the conclusion of the tale had King Richard not returned and Prince John had risen to the throne? When Robin Hood had robbed ALL the money from the rich to give to the poor, where would the remaining handouts come from? Would his Merry Men remained merry when they had killed all of the deer in Sherwood Forest and someone had to buy seeds and tend the fields? Obama does as bad a job masquerading as Robin Hood as he does with portraying himself as a competent POTUS. I would love to know the truth about how this mind numbed, never-had-a-real-job moron got into an Ivy League university.

    • doc holiday

      GOP’s business/establishment wing thinks the party has been taken over by Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah, Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia and a bunch of crackpots who are driving the party into the ground.

      Because of this, a substantial chunk of Republicans have an unfavorable view of their own party.

      even members of their own party are getting the picture. See you all in Nov.

  • docww

    As they say, this is the down side of democracy–every Tom, Dick and Harry with two brain cells has the right to vote. Whether or not they decide to vote is the question. It’s a very sad state of affairs but so true.

    Bernie, that’s why I hate you and love you at the same time. You’re like my mother–you say what needs to be said in a respective and direct way. To hell with political correctness. How refreshing.

  • Tim Bertram Black

    O brother… index the minimum wage to inflation so it will stop being an election issue every 2 years.
    It needs to be raised. It will help some and hurt others. But it needs to cease being a political hot potato.
    You folks love the issue. It gives you a chance to walk around on your hind legs and act all ridiculous (like a dog looking for a leg). “See, look at me! yep… I’m against it… true believer me… see? red thing’s coming out even… see??? I’m a conservative… fiscally responsible just like Dub-ya was… see?”
    It has to be increased — none of the repubs have the guts to disagree with the basest elements of their party: the religious right and in this case: the ulta rich.

    • Integrity

      We need to repeal Obamacare. It will help some and hurt others. But it needs to cease being a political hot potato. You liberals think you have all the answers. It gives you a chance to act like you care more than the others. None of the dems have the guts to disagree with the basest elements of their party: the marxists ………………………. LOL By the way, I don’t think a true conservative has ever occupied the White House. QED

      • Tim Bertram Black

        It’s done… Reagan proposed a very similar plan while he was governor of California… Isn’t social security “socialist” as well? Get ‘em to run on repealing social security, too.
        Everyone agreed: something needed to be done with healthcare… dems and repubs agreed. Something has been done… it isn’t what anyone wants… now make it better.

    • Jeff Webb

      Would you willing to decrease your pay or give up your job if it meant less fortunate people get that higher minimum wage, Tim?

      • Tim Bertram Black

        Yes I most certainly would. I would try to stay away from a volatile job like that, though.
        Minimum wage has been increased in the past — and the apocalypse didn’t occur.
        Grow a sack.

        • Jeff Webb

          >>Yes I most certainly would.<>Minimum wage has been increased in the past — and the apocalypse didn’t occur.<>Grow a sack.<<

          lol Oh, sweetheart, you're so cute when you pretend to be a man.

          • Tim Bertram Black

            I’ll donate the diff between min wage and $15 to charity… I already donate a lot to charity… but $8/hour more won’t affect my way of life. I want America to succeed… I want Americans to prosper…
            You people should be yacking about government waste!!! Get a truman-esque committee on it of wonks and you could save billions of $ on the govt waste.
            Republicans want the economy to be horrible — so they can get elected… dems never want the economy to be horrible because it affects the common, working, decent folk of this country (our base) more than the rich — who never have to worry about the next meal.
            You are so brainwashed… grow a sack and read something other than the fiction the right has bombarded you with. Read, learn… look at the other side… look at your side.
            To the republicans, it’s all a game — it is real to us folks.

          • Jeff Webb

            If you’re talking about the sell-out establishment Republicans, you’re not entirely off. They mostly care about keeping their cushy jobs, even if it means being pantywaists.

            As far as Democrats are concerned, you are disturbingly off. The left talks a good game, but couldn’t care less about the economy or regular “folks.” Democrats are all about power & control, nothing more.

            The job security or upward mobility for regular folks who work in coal mines are diminished when Democrats force more regulations on power suppliers, especially the emissions reduction plan currently in the works with Obama & the EPA. Regular folks also end up paying higher utility bills.

            When Democrats lay more regulations & taxes on businesses, it’s a strain on the regular folks who own them and work there. Regular folks looking for a job are also less likely to get hired.

            The overwhelming majority of folks, both small businesspeople and insurance policyholders, have been adversely affected by Obamacare, and there’s more of that to come.

            Interesting that you say you donate a lot to charity. If this is really the case, you’re the exception, not the rule. You wouldn’t happen to think Dems are more charitable than Reps, would you? Your side’s pretty pathetic, actually, especially since you’re the REAL party of the rich.
            http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_republicans_or_democrates_give_more_to_charity

            http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819260/posts

            Believe me, for unmistakable proof of brainwashing, look no further than the boring, predictable B.S. you spew about the right.

            Run along now, snookums; you’ve embarrassed yourself enough.

          • Tim Bertram Black

            Regulations are rules. Simple as that. There has to be rules.
            “… couldn’t care less…” means they “could” care less… so, better check your phrasing — pet peeve of mine.
            None of the answers lie to the right — only the left even tries to have the right answers — the nuanced answers that are difficult to understand and sell.
            By the right — uhh, you people — peddling your simple(ton) answers to the populace, you confuse what really needs to be done. And what really needs to be done is difficult to understand.
            Hate Radio and Fox News have castrated the government from doing what needs to be done — 50% of americans believe in some kind of conspiracy theory… birthers, moon landing deniers, 911 inside jobbers, Obama is muslin (sic), etc. It’s a small percentage for each conspiracy, but it covers a wide swath of the populace.
            Hate Radio and Fox News foments and thrives on that distortion. So we have states that are so BLOOD RED now that they want to murder fellow americans (Cliven)…
            50% of republicans believe they will have to oust Obama in 2016 using guns — ie, killing people.
            You know and I know that this notion is ridiculous. But there are a lot of people preparing for it … stocking their bunkers, etc.
            It is ludicrous. To fox and the hate radio folks, it is just entertainment — WWF writ large… — but it is hurting America. And all you “dittoheads” (really? seems like an offensive term to me) tow the line and parrot back…
            But there’s good money in hate…

          • Jeff Webb

            First of all, when you want to convey that someone absolutely does not care about something, the original and proper phrasing is “you couldn’t care less.” I know your version is the way many people say it nowadays, but its actual wording suggests you do care somewhat. Have someone else explain it to you in more detail if you still don’t get it.

            As for the rest, it’s nice of you to keep trying to prove to the class you don’t know anything whatsoever about the right, but now you’re just looking unhinged. Again, precious, run along now.

          • Tim Bertram Black

            You are right on the phrase… I had the pet peeve reversed… :) Apologies. Very busy.
            I know I can’t prove anything to anybody here about anything — about the best that I can do is to get even just one of you to scratch his/her head.
            And that’s it… I can’t persuade any of you, I can’t get any of you to think differently than you already do — that’s part of the definition of “conservative”… an unwillingness to change old ideas.
            But if just one of you looks cock-eyed at the screen for 5 seconds… scratches his head… then turns Rush back on, I feel that I’ve succeeeded.

          • Jeff Webb

            Oh, people are scratching their heads, all right, but only from trying to figure out whether it’s the school system or the psychiatric community that failed you.

            Thanks for your third paragraph. It’ll help me explain the concepts of projection & self-unawareness to my daughter better than anything my local library stocks..

          • Tim Bertram Black

            Ahh! A Glenn Beck fan. Let me clue you in on something: Glenn is an entertainer… like Hulk Hogan or Cher or Andrew “Dice” Clay or Pee Wee Herman … he makes his money through entertaining people. It is pure entertainment — I think he’d be the first to say that you shouldn’t allow his spiel to influence your opinions on anything.

            I bid you peace.

          • Jeff Webb

            Kiddo, I can’t remember the last time I listened to Beck’s show, so I don’t know what brought that on.

            My guess is you’re trying to cope with learning that your enemies are the generous ones, while you’re all talk.
            That, or you’re trying to forget that the bill of goods you’re trying to sell here keeps getting exposed as the load of crap it is.

          • Tim Bertram Black

            None of you are my “enemies”… we’re all americans… we’re on the same team. Glenn often talks about projection and self-awareness.
            I’m not selling anything… I’m telling you there is another side to the coin…
            But if you are resigned to the fact that both sides are equally corrupt, then baste in your cynicism.
            I’m telling you that even if both sides are corrupt, the true left hasn’t thrown up their hands about it. The only way to get out of this horrible time in our history is to vote left. And by left, I don’t even mean Barack Obama — although he was the only choice. I mean radical left…
            We need 16 more years of a democrat in the whitehouse… by then Scalia and maybe Alito will be off the supreme court… then we can overturn people vs. cit united… then hope comes. Congress won’t do it.
            Corporations weren’t allowed under the original constitutions… they feared them… Lincoln allowed them for the war effort… which he said would be the biggest mistake of his presidency…
            Now we have a court that has said corps are people. That is dead wrong. People are people.
            Alas, I’m going to stop wasting my time…. the “radical right”‘s solution is a French Revolution style Reign of Terror… which suits your fancy to guns, I suppose… and would suit Jefferson’s as well… I’m a Samuel Adams fan, myself.

          • Jeff Webb

            A couple of things stood out:

            >>Corporations weren’t allowed under the original constitution.<>…even if both sides are corrupt, the true left hasn’t thrown up their hands about it.<<

            Both sides are NOT equally corrupt. There are obviously corrupt dealings among establishment Republicans, but the bigger problem is they're so accustomed to the power & eminence their jobs provide them, they tolerate corruption as far as their re-electability will allow.
            The Democrat Party, OTOH, is the embodiment of corruption. They're not only accustomed to their power, they crave it & can't get enough of it. Why would the "true left" have thrown up their hands at this point? The most leftist POTUS since Wilson is taking things hard in that direction however he sees fit, with no consequences beyond disapproving words from wimps like Graham & McConnell.

            You really want a radically left country? There are more than enough out there to choose from. This is a representative republic, based on limited government interference & individual liberty. If you refuse to accept that, hopefully millions of people protected by the 2nd Amendment won't have to tell you to feel free to leave.

          • Tim Bertram Black

            Currently, to be “left” in america means supporting/defending BO and Bill Clinton — and they are 2 of the best republican presidents we’ve ever had… Obama hasn’t proposed anything that hasn’t already been proposed by republicans – - including your crotch-shot centerfolder Ronnie Reagan. By “radical left” in America, I mean anything “Left” at all … any one truly espousing left principles (we have Bernie Sanders, though).
            There is no left in america. Go ahead, spit take your koolaid. America has 1 political party with 2 right wings. The real tragedy is you think you have a choice — and there really is no choice it’s spam or spam-lite.
            Of course, I AM going to tell you to vote Democratic — because all the right answers lie to the left. And none have ever come from the right. Heck, you want to do away with regulations! (slaps forehead)… the more it is politically safe to be even remotely associated with the “L” word, the more there will be true liberal politicians. Fox and Hate radio have redefined libeal to be anything not far right.
            The establishment clause is with respect to church and state, not free speech. And Cit United is constitutional, you know why? The supreme court said it was — which is the definition. But that doesn’t make it a good law.
            You are a waste of space if you believe Cit United is good. It is amazing to me how simple-minded and ignorant you folks are… Lincoln saw this day — the “enthronement of corporations”…

          • Jeff Webb

            >>The establishment clause is with respect to church and state, not free speech.<>Of course, I AM going to tell you to vote Democratic — because all the right answers lie to the left. And none have ever come from the right. Heck, you want to do away with regulations!<> And Cit United is constitutional, you know why? The supreme court said it was — which is the definition.<>You are a waste of space if you believe Cit United is good.<<

            Actually, believing it's bad is the mark of a person who doesn't respect the First Amendment.

            You are remarkably ignorant about conservatives. You really ought to open your mind and actually talk with one. Summarily judging and insulting people doesn't convey your disagreement so much as it makes you look like a mean-spirited troll.

          • I Hate Webb-Fascists

            We are not going anywhere Webb-Fascist. You want trouble? I dare you to come and try to carry out your empty threat. Bring Daly and Perlutsky with you. You will not last 5 seconds.

          • I Hate Webb-Fascists

            Come on you gutless sackofshit. Are you a man or a mouse?

          • Lc Goodfellow

            TBB, Obviously, we have a lot of work to do to repair the damage you’ve done. “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” – V. Klaus,
            .

        • Ryan Nichols

          I find that very hard to believe. You seem to have no respect for people who don’t vote democrat. So I don’t buy for one second you would give up your job so a registered republican could make more money.

          Also you should grow a sack of your own. And state the fact that when the minimum wage was raised in the past. It wasn’t doubled. Maybe if the leftists clamoring about raising it should come up with a reasonable number. Then possibly it could be taken seriously, and progress would be made.

          You have to ask. Why are they throwing out $15? And the answer is politics. It’s another political sham to divide, and enrage. They throw out that number knowing it’s too high. And they know the right has to block it. It would be irresponsible if they didn’t. So the left uses that to say the right is standing in the way of raising the wage. Which is quite the opposite of reality. By using this high number they guaranteed that nothing will move on this bill. And they do it bottom line for votes.

          I’m not positive what the minimum wage is. But i know it’s close to 8$. I’m certain if they proposed a bill that raises the wage by a dollar. And then 50 cent raises every year till it hits 12,13, or even 15$ than maybe things would move forward. And the politics from the left would stop hurting the poor.

          • Tim Bertram Black

            I agree! They are haggling. Note: Republicans who make minimum wage are mislead — the republicans are good at selling their shinola to the common, decent, working man… I don’t know how they do it — I think the republicans’ painting of the world as “black and white”, also hate radio, religious appeals, also wanting to be with those they consider the winners — all these things appeal to the common, decent, working man… but — obviously they should vote democratic because the repubs don’t give a rat’s behind about the working man or the middle class.
            So, it wouldn’t really be a republican getting my money — it would be a democrat who votes against his best interests (republican) because the republicans have convinced him it is good for him to do so… To me, that’s still a democrat.
            I haven’t put myself in a job where paying workers slave wages determines whether I work or not. I wouldn’t be able to live with myself.

          • Ryan Nichols

            Haggling? I don’t think so. Obama’s administration has shown a unwillingness to compromise. So without the willingness to compromise, haggling isn’t haggling. A better description would be using someone’s hardships to get votes.

            It’s funny you can’t believe people buy into to rights ideology. Because I feel the exact same way about progressivism.

          • Ryan Nichols

            I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I dropped out of school had 5 kids and had to have tax payers pay for my existence. Nor could I live with myself telling people who own a business how they should pay their employees. Especially if it has no effect on me. Because obviously having no effect on me makes it awful easy to attack and label them. Because I don’t have to witness the negatives, I can just pretend it doesn’t exist.

          • Tim Bertram Black

            It has an effect on ALL Of us.
            The case you mention isn’t the normal case — is there fraud? certainly there is… but not as much as the fraud at the top of the income ladder — where the rich and connected bathe in fraud.
            The welfare mother doesn’t have a direct line to her congressman… the businesses, banks, and rich people do — and you can bet — they ain’t talking about helping the poor or the working man whose sweat built this country — they are talking about ways to make themselves more rich or ways to retain their wealth.
            It’s 1928 all over again fool. The writing is on the wall.
            You see the lazy white trash dad and trailor park horde and think… “hey, i gotsta work, derr… why don’t they has to, too? huh?”… well, some people just don’t want to work. Always been that way. Always will be that way. But the real person stealing from you are the rich, businesses, and those connected who don’t sit out on the street drinking 40oz’s where you can see them. They are laughing from the top of their skyscrapers… there is so much graft at that level it DWARFS the price of that 40oz that is burning your britches so bad.

          • Ryan Nichols

            Exactly. Forcing the wage up has have a effect on All of us. And you’re wrong. The case I described is very normal. As is fraud in the welfare system. Maybe if they would aggressively weed out the fraudulent welfare, the people who do need it could have more. But the left doesn’t care about fraud. Unless it’s a rich white guy doing it.

          • doc holiday

            See this is where your wrong if your workers are that much underpaid they go on food stamps and welfare to make up the difference and it is either that of go hungry. By underpaying your workers you push off their costs of staying alive to all the rest of us or in effect your using government money to subsidize your business.

          • Ryan Nichols

            That also leaves out all the factors such as irresponsible spending habits, drug use, and having children that you can’t afford. Bottom line most people who live off the government are doing so because of their actions. Not because of their pay. This is why I believe it’s common sense to give these people drug test.

  • Find the Truth

    “Democrats Care, Republicans Hate You”
    That a boy Bernie, you FINALLY got something right!

    • Ron F

      Truth, reading the comments here it seems like there is a lot of hatred on the part of conservatives and Republicans for progressives, liberals and Democrats. I haven’t looked recently but when I looked at liberal cites the hatred seems reciprocal.

      • Lc Goodfellow

        ….and most of these cities have many years of Democrat Mayors and have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Miami now has a Republican, but at least 5-6 previous Democrat Mayors….
        1) New Orleans – Mayor: Democrat
        2) Detroit – Party: Mayor: Democrat
        3) Baltimore – Mayor: Democrat
        4) Oakland – Mayor: Democrat
        5) Newark – Mayor: Democrat
        6) St. Louis – Mayor: Democrat
        7) Miami – Mayor: Republican
        8) Richmond – Mayor: Democrat
        9) Philadelphia – Mayor: Democrat
        10) Washington D.C. – Mayor: Democrat

        • Ron F

          Goodfellow, I meant to say “sites”. And I am not sure what gun restrictions has to do with hatred.

          • Lc Goodfellow

            “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”
            If I hate you, I may shoot you.

            It’s because they hate people who disagree with them more than they hate anything else in the World.
            It’s not about winning politically, it’s about the destruction of anyone who disagrees with you.

  • Drew Page

    During Obama’s first two years in office he had control of the House and Senate. He could have done anything he wanted. He could have taken everything away from “the rich” and given it to “the poor”. So why why didn’t he and the Democrats do exactly that? Was there no “income inequality” prior to 2008? Obama Care was an attempt to take from “the rich” and give to “the poor”, so why aren’t there 30 million people enrolled (and paying for) Obama Care?

    How do Obama and the Democrats propose to implement “income equality”? Does it stop with equal pay for equal work? If so, how will “equal work” be defined by the government? Two people do the same job for 8 hours a day and one is twice as productive as the other, with no mistakes, while the less productive worker makes several mistakes. Is equal pay warranted? If the less productive employee is fired and loses his income, wouldn’t that result in “income inequality”? In fact, there is “Income inequality” among those who work and those who don’t, are the Democrats and Obama suggesting income should be equal for every man, woman and child whether they work or not? Are they suggesting that the only result that matters is “equal income”, regardless of productivity, skill level and experience? Should doctors, lawyers
    airline pilots and engineers make the same income as dish washers, broom pushers, parking lot attendants and pizza delivery people? And if not, why not? If that is not what they mean, then they should come out and say exactly how they intend to achieve “income equality”. If they can’t, they should shut their mouths.

    • Seattle Sam

      The “increase in income inequality” is simply a myth. Hillary called it a cancer, but it’s apparently a very slow growing one. See http://www.aei-ideas.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gini1.jpg

    • Bob Hadley

      “During Obama’s first two years in office he had control of the House and Senate. He could have done anything he wanted. He could have taken everything away from “the rich” and given it to “the poor”. ”
      The Democrats did not have a veto proof Senate until Al Frankin was finally sworn in and Sen. Spector left the GOP. By that time, Senators Kennedy and Byrd were too sick but to make the most important votes.
      Between the time Sen. Kennedy’s replacement was appointed and Sen. Brown was elected to take that seat (a period of a few months), the Democrats had an actual veto proof Senate.
      One more thing to remember: contrary to popular belief in some right wing circles, the Democratic Caucus had diverse politics. There were some rather conservative Democratic senators, as well as some moderates in the party.

      • Drew Page

        The Democrats, resorting to bribing Mary Landrieu (with the 2nd Louisiana Purchase) and Ben Nelson (with the Cornhusker Kickback) managed to secure the number of needed votes to shove Obama Care down out throats. Whether you agree or not, Obama and his Democrat majorities in the House and Senate had the votes to do anything they wanted to do. Don’t attempt to imply that they didn’t have that power. We saw all those “diverse politics” come into play from those “rather conservative Democrat Senators as well as those moderates in the Democrat party” when it came time to vote for the ADA.

        Obama and his Democrat majorities had all the power and votes they needed to end “income inequality” if they could only tell people how they intended to achieve it, but they couldn’t.

        • Bob Hadley

          First, for all practical purposes, they had a veto proof Senate for a few months, except on certain crucial votes. Remember a vote on the ACA when everyone was waiting for Sen. Byrd to arrive from his sick bed and a Senate Republican asked his comrades-in-arms to say a prayer asking him not to show up?
          Second, it was precisely because of the conservative/moderates in the Democratic Senate that they trashed the “public option” and the single payer system and adopted the conservative individual mandate – an idea hatched by Heritage Foundation, endorsed by the likes of Newt Gingrich (who, admittedly is not always conservative) and first implemented by Mitt Romney,
          Some liberals in the Democratic Caucus held their noses and voted for the ACA.
          It was also largely because of those conservative/moderate Democratic Senators that the stimulus bill was much smaller than many liberals wanted and that one-third (1/3) of the stimulus bill was tax breaks, a fact obscured by the bellyaching of GOP leaders and their mouthpieces.

          • Drew Page

            So are you trying to say the Democrats didn’t really have all that much power during Obama’s first two years in office and couldn’t get what they wanted done because they didn’t have the votes? Are you trying to say that the Heritage Foundation is responsible for Obama Care? Save that B.S. for your liberal friends.

          • Bob Hadley

            So, the facts fail you. And logic fails you. So, what do you do? You resort to emotion and diversion. I keep hearing that that’s what liberals do. Are you a liberal?
            Yes, the Democratic Congress was stymied for much of the first two years. The Senate was constantly being blocked by filibusters. Some major legislation obviously got through due to the Democrats power and craftiness.
            Of course, this was the pact made by several GOP Senators at the time President Obama was being inaugurated in Jan. or 2009: block him at every step, give lip service to bi-partisanship and complain about him not making progress. People like you ate it up.
            The Heritage is obviously not responsible for the ACA being passed. The Democratic Congress and President Obama are. But the Heritage Foundation and Mitt Romney have bragging rights for having inspired the ACA. But they’re so modest that they don’t brag about this.

          • Drew Page

            Your “facts” and your “logic” fail to convince me, or anyone else with a brain. If, as you maintain, the “Democrats were stymied” for much of the first two years of Obama’s first term, it was not due to the Republican opposition. The Democrats had the votes

            to override any GOP opposition. That is a fact.

            If the Democrats couldn’t get all of their own members to go along with other legislation Obama wanted, that is not the fault of Republicans. The Democrats should have resorted to bribing their recalcitrant members in the Senate, like they did with Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu, to get their votes on the ACA.

            Conservatives aren’t complaining about Obama’s lack of progress. They are complaining about the direction of that “progress” is taking the country. Obama has been the president for almost six years now and look at the participation in the workforce, the national debt, the number of people on government assistance, the failure of American foreign policy, the continued dependency on foreign oil, the failure of Obama Care to insure those 30 million uninsured, the endless series of administration scandals and the perpetual lies being issued by this president and his administration. This is the “progress” that conservatives are trying to stop and I, for one, am glad they are.

            Neither the Republican controlled House, nor the Constitution have “stymied” Obama from doing what he wants. Remember, he has a pen and a phone and we have seen how he has used them.

          • Bob Hadley

            “Your ‘facts’ and your ‘logic’ fail to convince me…”

            Typically ideologue. You treat facts and logic as though they’re opinions – if they contradict your preconceptions, you feel free to ignore or belittle them.

            “During Obama’s first two years in office he had control of the House and Senate. He could have done anything he wanted. He could have taken everything away from “the rich” and given it to “the poor”. ”

            Remember, your above quote was what started this thread. You have failed to support this idea with facts or logic. In fact, you tacitly creep way from the idea.
            This thread then addressed why Pres. Obama could not have done anything he wanted. Of course, it was not only because the GOP Senators were extremely liberal with the filibuster when the Dems didn’t have a 60-vote proof Senate. Even when the Dems did have a filibuster-proof Senate, they had to find middle ground compromise among their members – the examples I gave above were the adoption of the conservative individual mandate in the ACA and the watered down stimulus (full of tax breaks).
            The lack of progress that the GOP decried was the lack of progress in re-vitalizing the economy. No, I don’t blame all or necessarily most of that on GOP resistance and their propaganda campaign. There’s a whole array of factors going into this.
            But you aren’t interested in facts or in logic. All you’re interested in is using liberals as whipping boys.

          • Drew Page

            I treat your “facts” and “logic” as opinions, because that’s all they are.

            Liberals have been running the country since Obama got elected. Based on their results, they are boys richly deserving of whipping.

  • SkyCitizen

    My Mom when she was alive was a Roosevelt Democrat. She would say Republicans are for the rich and the Democrats are for the poor, which we were. Now the mantra has changed to fairness and equality because being absolutely destitute has gone almost extinct in America. There can’t be any poor in America, it would be judgemental and unfair, perhaps even racist.

    The Republicans never bring anything to the table. The Democrats give away cell phones, the Republicans proffer the intangibles of liberty and freedom, concepts which don’t even register with the average American moron.

    Democrats don’t want all Americans to be morons, just most of them, this is why we have the teacher’s unions who protect teachers but not the country’s most important asset. American children have no union and most no parental advocate. Morons are not born, they are made and America leads the world in production.

    The Republicans need to acquire some of the moron vote to succeed. Let’s see, perhaps free cable TV.

    • Seattle Sam

      Teachers unions aren’t any more about benefiting children than the UAW is about selling automobiles. A union is a cartel set up to enable its members to extract an above-market price. It’s just like OPEC or the American Bar Association. To expect them to do things that are not in the interests of their members is in itself moronic. Does anyone believe that the MLB players’ union operates to maximize the interests of baseball fans?

      • SkyCitizen

        Absolutely right Sam, but these unions maximize their benefits without destroying their industries. Teachers unions have no such incentive.

        • Seattle Sam

          Public employees unions are shielded by government from the competitive market forces that indirectly limit the damage unions like steel workers or auto workers can do. The public is forced to buy education from the public schools even when there’s an alternative they prefer. No matter how bad the service is you have to get your license from the DMV. The same government that wails about the evils of corporate “monopolies”, sees nothing amiss in creating and enforcing them itself.

          • SkyCitizen

            Right on!

          • Lc Goodfellow

            The Swamp is getting deeper;

            The thing that has me worried about this Gov’t is the unknown number of Demies as’ Public Servants ‘ in our U.S. Government. You can’t call them ‘ Civil Servants ‘ not after 2013 and all the ‘ FiFth’s ‘ taken.
            That’s far from being ‘ Civil ‘ – F&F, IRS, NSA, AP, the Census Bureau and Benghazi ‘Lies’ on five networks.

            There’s enough here for a century of Presidents!

  • EddieD_Boston

    It is pretty scary that we have such a huge % of voters whom follow the Kardashians more than they do politics and current events. We’re doomed, especially if we keep encouraging illegal immigration from third world cesspools of corruption and disfunction. Call me racist if you want but I believe that a country is a third world hellhole because the people there are too stupid to behave otherwise. Where am I going wrong there?

    • FlaVet

      No…you’re spot on. And what’s racist about that anyway?

    • Ron F

      Why is anyone supposed to call you racist and why did you interject race into the argument?

      • EddieD_Boston

        Have you been paying attention? Whenever a white male opposes a liberal policy, or voices a dissenting opinion, he’s called a racist. Watch MSNBC if you don’t believe me.

        • Ron F

          Actually, I have watched MSNBC a few times in the morning. I got tired of watching Fox and I had not seen it previously. Like Fox they seem to want to bring in two analysts for every story. I have not heard any white male called a racist for opposing a liberal policy or voicing a dissenting opinion. Then again, I have only watched it a few times and only for a short time while getting ready to work. I obviously haven’t seen it as much as you. Who called what white male a racist for opposing a liberal policy?

          • Joe Adams

            You obviously haven’t watched MSNBC often. Routinely, any conservative opposition to Obama policy is labeled racist either directly or indirectly by commentators or other DNC mouthpieces like Harry Reid, Sharpton, Jackson, Pelosi, etc.

          • Ron F

            Joe, you are right, haven’t watched it often. If you know what they routinely do, you must watch it often. If you disagree with it, why do you continue to watch the station? How do you label something racist indirectly?

          • Lc Goodfellow

            ” Why are so many of today’s followers’

            …. educated beyond their intelligences … ? “

  • ted

    You don’t say that the Democrats win. Win by lying, but win nevertheless. You and Republicans seem clueless. The V A morass is the perfect vehicle to launch the truth that central control, especially by political hacks and university professors, FAILS. And stop with the “free enterprise” voters don’t care. They want to know how their government will perform FOR them. Describe how the V A system has failed and privately-run hospitals are efficient and care gets better all the time. Hit that and hit that hard. Start there. Pound that into their minds.

    • Ryan Nichols

      You’re right.The Republican party should use the failures that happened under Obama ‘s watch. The Democrat party has already insisted that it’s wrong for the right to use the VA scandal as campaign ammo. It’s politicizing the VA. Which shows they are worried about it sticking to them.

  • Sam

    I’ve had so many disappointments with the last two presidents, I’m not too sure that I care anymore.

    • Drew Page

      That’s one way to ensure that the crap keeps on coming.

  • Tova Feinman

    Why I was once a Democrat and am no longer one:

    25 Years Ago
    1) Democrats used to support religious tolerance of everybody (as a Jew I was grateful)
    2) Democrats used to support freedom for all sides of a debate to be heard
    3) Democrats used to support tolerance
    3) Democrats used to champion the free exchange of ideas
    4) Democrats used to foster intellectual growth and exploration in academics
    5) You could never point to an orthodoxy in liberal thinking, that would have been considered an oxymoron.
    6) Democrats were the live and let live party

    Today:
    1) Democrats are the party of strict orthodoxy and group think
    2) Democrats only support freedom of thought when it’s their thoughts
    3) Democrats only support tolerance for the chosen classes worthy of tolerance
    4) Democrats cannot allow the free exchange of ideas on any subject, from science to theology. To do so threatens their orthodoxy
    5) Democrats alone define what subjects are to be considered worthy of intellectual growth and exploration in academia.
    6) Democrats are now the seek out, harass, hurt, damage, and destroy party if anyone strays from their orthodoxy (conservative Blacks, women, and Gays, all Jews, Christians that are traditional, scientists who actually engage in science and are skeptical of “settled science” mantra, etc.)

    25 years ago I was a Orthodox Jew, pro-life, feminist, scientist, former Peace Corps volunteer, who believed in fiscal conservative policies who had a comfortable place in the Democratic party.

    I haven’t changed much (except its 25 years later) but the Democratic Party has. The Republican Party is not a perfect fit for me, but it is a much better fit than the Democratic Party in its current existence.

    • Lc Goodfellow

      The Swamp is getting deeper;

      The thing that has me worried about this Gov’t is the unknown number of Demies as’ Public Servants ‘ in our U.S. Government. You can’t call them ‘ Civil Servants ‘ not after 2013 and all the ‘ FiFth’s ‘ taken.
      That’s far from being ‘ Civil ‘ – F&F, IRS, NSA, AP, the Census Bureau and Benghazi ‘Lies’ on five networks.

      There’s enough here for a century of Presidents!

  • Jarob54

    …”Most Americans aren’t smart enough to care.” That in a nutshell says it all. This nation has become progressively dumber and attention to issues seem useless to many. Pitiful!

    • Ron F

      Jacob, does this apply to you and the readers on this site as well or are you the exceptions to the rule – the smart ones?

      • captdot

        Come on, Ron F. Folks who actually keep up with issues are those who read these articles and carer enough to comment.If you don’t know enough to understand that, what group are you in?

        • Ron F

          And you think the comments on this website show a great understanding of issues. And I do not think questioning the intelligence of people who disagree with me futhers any argument. It is not a matter of sides. Generally I find people who think people in the country are getting dumber exclude themselves and people who think like them. Actually, liberals do the same thing, they conservatives flat earthers. And what is the key word for conservatives now “low information voters”?

          • Lc Goodfellow

            “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance; baffle them with bullshit”….
            Works for the Govt,.

  • gbandy

    It is also very funny that all States that are striving in growth of jobs and their economies are run by the People Hating Republicans. Yet all the States who are failing and suffering huge deficits and higher taxes are run by the People Loving Democrats like in New York Illinois and California.

    • Seattle Sam

      No one cared about the people of Detroit as much as Coleman Young and Kwame Kilpatrick.

      • rs724503

        Are you kidding about Kilpatrick? Were you trying to be facetious?

        • Tova Feinman

          I do think he’s being facetious.

          • rs724503

            Not sure why the Kilpatrick reference is being made, but that joke is either over my head or just not all that funny.

        • Seattle Sam

          Kwame said many times that he cares deeply about Detroit. What’s more important? Actions or words of caring? The President has said he is concerned about black people. What’s more important? Continued high black unemployment or his expressions of caring? I think Bernie’s made it pretty clear that the public is moved more by promises of Hope and Change than by failure to achieve results.

          • Drew Page

            Sam — It’s pretty obvious isn’t it? These politicians have figured it out, promises always mean more than actions to the majority of voters. The politicians know that most Americans have the attention span of a gnat and they count on that. Even when the promises turn out to be nothing but B.S., the voting public still believe the promises. Obama’s re-election confirms this.

          • Seattle Sam

            Politics is no different than any other profession. You repeat what works and stop doing what doesn’t. Once upon a time, telling bold-faced lies often got you drummed out of office. It no longer does. So why would you change a winning formula? Consider these:

            90% disapprove of Congress.
            90%+ of all congressional incumbents are reelected.

            Voters are as full of empty promises as the politicians.

          • Drew Page

            This is how Joseph Heller must have felt when he wrote CATCH 22.

      • Drew Page

        No one cared as much about the people of California as Jerry Brown, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein. How has that been working out? No one cared about the people of Illinois as much as four of our last seven governors (who were sent to prison for corruption), or as much as the Daley clan, or Senator Durbin, or the Democrat majorities in the House and Senate who have presided for decades over the state’s near bankruptcy, multiple downgrades of bond ratings, loss of businesses and jobs and recent 67% state income tax increase. And in New York, no one cares as much about the people of New York that Governor Cuomo, who told conservatives and Tea Party supporters that they really didn’t belong in his fair state. I’m sure that the conservatives in New York didn’t really need to be told that because they had figured that out for themselves.

    • Ron F

      California, Colorado, Nevada, Florida, Washington and Oregon are all in the top 11 and they are not particularly low tax states. In addition, what about income growth as a measure and not just job growth?

    • Ron F

      gbandy, I just looked at the bottom 11 states in job growth: Kentucky, South Dakota, Virginia, Maine, New Mexico, Vermont, Wyoming, Alaska, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, and West Virginia. Most of the states are thought of as fairly low tax states and fairly conservative.

  • Cosette

    I just saw an ad on TV for free cell phones if you receive food stamps (SNAP). If you get an Obamaphone for free, what party are you going to vote for?

    • JMax

      You think people are going to change their vote for a $10 cell phone?

      • captdot

        Not change their vote, but continue to vote for those who hand out candy.

        • JMax

          Did it occur to anyone that a $10 investment in a phone might help a poor person have a way for perspective employers to contact them for a job interview?

          • Chuck

            I wouldn’t waste $10 on that, though it would certainly give them access to an app that would help them distinguish the difference between “perspective” and “prospective”!

          • Accountant

            Another “pulled out of my ass” number. Where the (heck) do you come up with $10? The cell phone may be cheap, but the continued use of it, paid for by the taxpayers will be much, much more. Koolaid drinker!

          • JMax

            Anybody can get a working phone for $10. What is your source for the government paying the monthly charges?

          • Seattle Sam
          • JMax

            Thanks for the source, I didn’t know that. I don’t have a problem with that, though. Why do you?

          • Cosette

            That’s the trouble with you liberals: you have no sense when it comes to fiscal responsibility or (God help us) restraint. You throw money around like it’s endless and as if no one is paying for it… but the national debt keeps going up and up and up. Yes, this is a tiny bit of it–but it’s thousands of these “little” programs that add up. As Everett Dirksen said, “a billion here, a billion there… pretty soon, we’re talking real money.”

          • JMax

            Wow! You know who Everett Dirksen was. A great man.

            Apparently there is no record of Dirksen ever saying the quote attributed to him. http://www.dirksencenter.org/print_emd_billionhere.htm

            Funny how when it came to eliminating the deficit and creating a surplus during the Clinton administration it was because the Republicans controlled Congress, but now that the Republicans have controlled the House for three and a half years, they don’t take any credit for the deficits they’ve passed.

          • Cosette

            Typical. Change the subject. That’s a Dirksen quote that’s been out and about for a good 40 years or so. Ok, if he didn’t say it… I will. It’s still valid. Only now Mr. D. would say, “A trillion here, a trillion there…”

          • Cosette

            Thanks for the link, JMAX…… Based on what is reported there, I think I’ll still give Senator Dirksen attribution. While there’s some question whether Senator Dirksen said the entire quote, there’s a number of people who claim hearing him say it, according to the Dirksen Center, quoted here:

            “Of course, the Dirksen Papers do not document completely the late Senator’s comments. For example, The Center that bears his name does not have his testimony before committees. Their collection of Congressional Records ends in 1965, omitting the last four years of Dirksen’s life and career – he might have employed the phrase only late, although witnesses claim he said it throughout his career. Dirksen’s campaign speeches tended not to produce transcripts, only sketchy notes or abbreviated newspaper accounts. Dirksen also held center stage before the video age, meaning that many remarks, particularly those in campaigns, escaped capture.

            “Bottom line: the late Senate Minority Leader certainly would have endorsed the meaning behind the phrase, but it is questionable that he ever coined it.

            “Update, May 25, 2004. A gentleman who called The Center with a reference question relayed that he sat by Dirksen on a flight once and asked him about the famous quote. Dirksen replied, ‘Oh, I never said that. A newspaper fella misquoted me once, and I thought it sounded so good that I never bothered to deny it.’

            “Update, January 15, 2009. We received a call from someone in Pennsylvania who recalled a very clear, even emphatic memory of Senator Dirksen uttering this famous phrase on the “Johnny Carson Show.” This is the second person who shared such a recollection. Unfortunately, a Google search failed to turn up confirmation—apparently the “official” Web site for the “Tonight Show” has video beginning only in 1969—Dirksen died in September of that year.

            “Update, September 25, 2012. Historian John Steele Gordon concurs with the January 15, 2009, update. He also recalls Dirksen making the statement on Johnny Carson’s show. With regard to the lack of hard documentation authenticating the phrase, Gordon writes, “But I really don’t see a historiographical problem here. It’s long been attributed to Senator Dirksen and several people, including myself, remember him saying it at the same time and the same place. For this historian, at least, that’s good enough.” [Gordon to Mackaman, e-mail, September 25, 2012, Dirksen Information File] “

          • Drew Page

            God bless you and anyone else who want to pay the bills of other people. As long as such charity is voluntary, I applaud it. But when you, or anyone else, wants to make charitable donations mandatory on others who don’t feel the same way, you are going to get resistance. I contribute quite a bit to a number of charities and do so voluntarily, but I would fight against any law that forced me to contribute to any organization, charitable or otherwise. That’s why I have a problem with this.

          • JMax

            I don’t look on these phones as charity. I look on them as investments. That’s why I don’t have a problem with this.

          • Drew Page

            You go ahead and look at them as investments. As long as these “investments” are voluntary, I could care less. I’m tired of the government “investing” my money
            to pay other people’s bills.

          • JMax

            How about the government paying bills for farmers and oil drillers? How about the government subsidizing your home purchase? Those aren’t voluntary either.

          • Drew Page

            I’m all for the government discontinuing all subsidies for every individual and every business and reducing my taxes accordingly. I am for abolishing the current Federal Income Tax code and replacing it with a national sales tax, thereby eliminating the need for the IRS and its massive bureaucracy and payoffs to Congressmen and Senators from lobbyists looking for tax breaks.

            I am for full investigation, by independent physicians, of every disability claimed by people collecting Social Security Disability payments. I would cut off every social welfare program and benefit to illegal aliens and their kids. They are criminals, and don’t belong here. If you and your liberal friends want to pay for these things, be my guest, but count me out.

          • Ryan Nichols

            That’s cute. You believe the only thing standing in the way of a poor unemployed person is a phone.

          • JMax

            You believe that the only thing standing in the way of a poor unemployed person is their unwillingness to work.

          • Ryan Nichols

            1.75 billion dollar cellphone. That’s a accurate number.

          • JMax

            Not without a source.

          • Drew Page

            The government doesn’t pay the monthly charges for free cell phone use. The government requires those who purchase their phones and pay their monthly phone bills to pay for this usage. Look at your phone bill and you will see the “Federal Universal Service Charge”. That’s who pays for the “free” phone service.

          • JMax

            Thanks for the info. I’m good with that.

          • captdot

            Hello, JMAX. That is a pretty naive thought, actually. There are those who would not get a job, because then there would be work involved for the same, or with taxes, less than they have available now.

          • JMax

            “There are those…” who believe Americans did not walk of the moon, too. “There are those…” is a very vague statement. “There are those” who will abuse any system for gain. Does that mean we eliminate the system for the truly needy who are trying to get ahead?

          • Drew Page

            Do you think that if the government provided those eligible for free phones also provided them with a free automobile (and the gas and insurance for it) that might enhance the opportunities for those folks to actually get to all those job interviews that will be coming in on those free cell phones?

          • JMax

            Actually I think a stretch limo would be more cost-effective, don’t you?

      • SkyCitizen

        They give them away at the polls!

        • JMax

          Do you have a source for that? I’ve never heard of that. I don’t think that would be legal nor allowed by the polling place officials.

          • Seattle Sam

            Legal???? LOL. Polling officials???? ROFL. One of my neighbors was a polling official in Chicago. He used to show up at the election site and ask “Am I a Democrat poll watcher today or a Republican?”

          • JMax

            Thank God for anecdotal “evidence”.

          • Drew Page

            Was Eric Holder’s dropping charges of voter intimidation by the “New Black Panthers” at a Philadelphia polling place in 2008, after having been found guilty by a judge, “anecdotal evidence”?

          • Drew Page

            You have obviously never lived in Chicago.

          • JMax

            I’m sure incentives have been used in Chicago to get people to vote, just as I’m sure incentives, misinformation, and other measures have been used in other cities and states to keep people from voting.

          • Drew Page

            So two wrongs make a right?

          • JMax

            No, of course not, but complaining about one wrong as if others didn’t exist is hypocritical.

          • Aristotle

            Hypocrisy does not exist when one action is condemned with no reference to another. It would exist if one bad action is condemned and another bad action is not. It is Logic 101, chapter 1.

      • Seattle Sam

        Guess you never lived in Chicago? They used to buy votes pretty reliably with a pint of Irish Whiskey. The incentive may have changed, but the process hasn’t.
        BTW, you’re implying that the voter sees his vote as being worth more than $10?

        • JMax

          When did they buy votes with whiskey? They used to charge blacks a poll tax, too.

          • Seattle Sam

            They did when I was living on the South Side in the early 70s. By the way, the poll tax was not charged to blacks. It was generally charged to anyone who voted. California had a poll tax until 1914. There weren’t very many blacks there at that point.

          • JMax

            Do you think that only one party has ever offered inducements for people to vote?

          • Ryan Nichols

            Do you think that makes it ok?

          • JMax

            Depends on the circumstances.

          • Drew Page

            They used whiskey to buy votes in Chicago during Prohibition. Over the past 50 years patronage jobs have replaced whiskey as the means to buy votes.

      • Cosette

        You’re kidding, JMax… Right? The low information crowd will vote for anyone that will give them something… and keep giving them things… food stamps, cell phones, unlimited unemployment benefits, medical care–free or subsidized–or just some “walking around” money we’ve heard so much about over the years. So, JMax, I know your comment was made tongue-in-cheek — not! You really are a comedian!

      • Drew Page

        You may have a point. Many of those voting for Obama would have done so with or without the phone. But when you throw in amnesty for illegals, food stamps, rent subsidies, welfare checks, the extension of unemployment benefits, free health insurance, promises to keep the freebies coming, increasing the minimum wage and condemnation of anyone who doesn’t go along as “the enemy”, you do tend to gather a rather identifiable constituency.

  • http://oliverharris.biz PlinytheElder

    Bernie, the Republicans need only a four-word slogan this November: Had Enough? Vote Republican!

  • One Man’s Opinion

    The battle between the Repubs & Dems is reminiscent of how war used to be fought. One side would line up their troops and march forward, shooting. The other side would do the same… until they learned that by using guerrilla tactics, they could win with fewer soldiers and suffer much lower casualties… The Repubs still are marching forward with bayonets, not having learned that times have changed and that the guerrilla tactics of the Dems are winning.

    • captdot

      Great analogy!

    • Drew Page

      If you expect to win a dogfight, you better be prepared to roll around in the mud and fight like a dog. Refusing to “lower yourself to their level” will only get your ass torn up. Mitt had to find this out the hard way.

  • El_Tigre_Loco

    The thing that gets me is that all this political/social stuff has been examined thousands of years ago and defined, but no one learns

    “When one with honeyed words but evil mind
    Persuades the mob, great woes befall the state.”

    – Euripides

    • Jarob54

      Euripides? No, Imendides-Sorry I could not resist.

    • Drew Page

      I’ll bet the mob of Rome considered themselves “progressive democrats”. Bread and circuses were all they needed. They murdered the man who brought them greatness, right there in the Senate. Harry Reid would have loved to have been there. That’s where he conducts his political assassinations. The mob then fell in line behind the great madmen Nero and Caligula installed as emperors. The rest, as they say, is history.

  • Brian Stover

    Let me get this right…our treasured veterans are dying while waiting for their promised government health care, but Obama wants government control of EVERYONE’s health care?

    Because he is a good Daddy, he won’t send Michelle or their kids to wait months for a doctor appointment. As a matter of fact, he doesn’t send his kids to public schools either.

    This means he is a better parent than President.

    • JMax

      Health care provided by private doctors, private nurses, private specialists, in private clinics and private hospitals, private drug companies, and private medical supplies companies paid for by private insurance companies.

      How is this “government control of EVERYONE’s health care”?

      • Drew Page

        Private health insurance companies whose health plan specifications must conform to government standards,at rates subject to government approval, provided at reduced or no cost to certain individuals, at the expense of others who must pay for these subsidies.

        Brian Stover didn’t say that that the government HAS control of everyone’s health care, he said “Obama WANTS government control of everyone’s health care.” It’s not a well kept secret that Obama wants single payer, national health care and is using Obama Care as a step in that direction.

        • JMax

          When were insurance companies NOT subject to standards set by government? When were insurance rates NOT subject to government approval. What is the problem with consumer protections?

          Health care has been provided to the poor uninsured at reduced or no cost for decades. It’s called “Medicaid.” Did you know that the cost of ER visits by poor, uninsured people add an average of $1,000 a year to the premiums of insured people?

          “Obama WANTS government control of everyone’s health care.”

          There is no evidence of that. Obama wants more people covered and more effective and less expensive health care.

          There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama wants national health care. Yes, he does want single payer health insurance. So do I. Medicare is single payer health insurance and people love it. It’s also extremely efficient. Single payer, just like Medicare, involves private doctors, private hospitals, private clinics, private drug companies, etc. Imagine the efficiency in health care in this country if providers had to deal with only one payer entity, one set of forms.

          Obama will be years on the public speaking circuit before any of us see single payer which again, is not national health care.

          • Walter Peck

            Don’t be obtuse. The ACA is an increase in government control over health care. Single payer would be an even greater increase and national health care even greater.

          • JMax

            “The ACA is an increase in government control over health care.”

            In what way? Is that bad?

            “Single payer would be an even greater increase”

            What if a single private insurance company won a bid to be the single payer?

            Nobody is talking about “national health care”.

          • Walter Peck

            You obviously skipped the first sentence of my post.

          • JMax

            “Remember that there have been decades of government meddling in health care that have lead us to this point.”

            Wait, I thought government control started with Obama.

            I didn’t skip your first sentence. I thought you were speaking of yourself.

          • Walter Peck

            “Wait, I thought government control started with Obama.”

            I totally believe you.

          • Drew Page

            Individual health insurance policy rates are subject to approval by the Departments of Insurance in each of the states. They have never been subject to federal approval prior to the ACA. Premium rates for employer provided group health insurance, which covers the vast majority of people in the U.S. are not subject to state or federal approval. Group health policy deductibles, coinsurance percentages or out-of-pocket limits have never been subject to state or federal approval, as they are under the Obama Care options.

            People who bought individual health insurance policies could purchase them without maternity coverage prior to the ACA. Now they must pay for such coverage, whether they need it or not.

            You ask “What’s the problem with consumer protections?” I would say there is nothing wrong with protecting consumers, so long as that includes protecting those consumers who actually have to pay the rising costs of those protections.

            You say that Obama wants more people covered, more effective and less expensive health care. Let’s have a look at how that’s working. At last count there were eight million enrolled in Obama Care options. At least five million of those were previously insured people whose individual health plans were terminated because they didn’t comply with ACA mandates. Of the remaining three million enrollees, we don’t know how many have actually paid the premiums for the plans they selected. We were told that the whole reason the ACA was necessary was to cover the 30 million uninsured people who couldn’t find health insurance because of preexisting conditions and/or prohibitive costs. Well, the ACA did away with preexisting conditions exclusions and the subsidies made Obama Care options “affordable”. SO WHERE ARE THE 30 MILLION UNINSURED? How are the Obama Care options more effective? How many people are paying family premiums $2,500 less annually for comparable health insurance they had prior to the ACA? How many doctors were threatening to leave the practice of medicine prior to Obama Care, compared to those who are doing so today?

            You say that there is no evidence that Obama wants control of everyone’s health care. I say, as do millions of others, that the ACA legislation Obama signed into law requires every American to purchase insurance under penalty of an additional tax, whether they want to or not. That is all the ‘evidence” I need that Obama wants to control everyone’s health care.

            You say that Medicare is extremely efficient. Yet Obama says that he can afford to take $750 billion out of Medicare funding over the next ten years to pay for Obama Care. He went on to say that the $750 billion will be recovered by reducing Medicare waste and fraud. According to the president, there is at least $75 billion of annual waste and fraud being paid for by Medicare. And you call that “extremely efficient”.

            The ACA was a purely partisan bill, bribed through the Senate and without a single Republican vote. It was passed without being read by those who voted for it and signed into law by a president who never read it. The Democrat Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, told the Congress and the people, “We need to pass it to find out what’s in it.” How would you like to be encouraged, by someone who allegedly represents you, to be bound by a contract that neither you or they had read?

            It was sold to the legislature and to the people on the basis of bald faced lies. “You can keep your health plan and your doctor if you want to. Period.”

          • Ryan Nichols

            But Healthcare is not cheaper.

          • JMax

            Oh, you think that health care would be cheaper overnight?

          • Ryan Nichols

            No. But i think there’s no guarantee it will be cheaper in the future. But either way my problem isn’t so much about that. My problem is the mandate forcing citizens to enroll in a plan the government approves, or pay a penalty. And the whole way it was sold to the people was just lie after lie. As a Democrat, do you not care about that? Do you also not care that this bill, the way it was passed and the secrecy of its contents wasn’t at all how the President campaigned legislation would be passed under him.

            It is believed by many the first Bush wasn’t reelected mainly because of one false broke promise. “Read my lips” “no new taxes” Just on this issue alone Obama has broken campaign promises, as well as saying the mandate wasn’t a tax.

          • JMax

            Of course there are no guarantees, but several analyses say cost will be lower than they otherwise would have been. The ACA was not sold to people with lie after lie. The president over -promised.

            The bill was not passed in secret. Many versions of the bill were available online as it was being legislated. I read some of them myself. The president doesn’t have much control about how legislation is passed.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Of course there are no guarantees<>but several analyses say cost will be lower than they otherwise would have been.<>The ACA was not sold to people with lie after lie. The president over -promised.<<

            In your opinion.

            No matter how committed you may be, you are still smart enough to understand nuance. Either Obama had the facts and made a false promise (he lied), or he made that false promise despite not having the facts (over-promised).

            http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/10/28/nbc-news-white-house-has-known-least-3-years-millions-would-lose-cove

            Do you prefer a blatantly dishonest person, or a less-than-honest, incompetent person employing incompetent people?

            With stuff like Benghazi, his cancer-ridden mother's alleged battle with insurance companies (both lies), his deportation record, and the # of Obamacare sign-ups (both dressed up without all the facts), Ryan's position on this is the rational one.

          • JMax

            The president cited studies that costs would go down. He didn’t say that costs would go down day one.

            I understand nuance, I know that what Obama was trying to convey was that “Obamacare” was not a government healthcare system where everyone had to buy a government plan with a government doctor. For the vast majority of people there were no changes in their plans nor their doctors. Most of the affected people were in a market where the average plan is dropped or changed within about 17 months. Nobody “lost” coverage unless they refused to replace a plan that was discontinued.

            What extra taxes do you pay?

            I prefer health care for all. I prefer that my 21 year-old son was covered by my insurance when he racked up $300k in cancer treatment bills this year. And that he’ll always be able to get insurance even though he will forever have a pre-existing condition.

            #Benghazi !!!!!!!!! Stuff like #Benghazi? What “stuff” like #Benghazi?

            Obama’s mother’s battle with insurance companies is not alleged, it is documented fact. She was not denied treatment, but she was denied disability insurance coverage due to her pre-existing condition.

            Obama has a much better deportation record than his predecessor, 50% higher rate under Obama.

            Nobody has shown the ACA enrollment numbers to be wrong. Critics only HOPE that fewer people now have insurance thanks to ACA.

  • American1969

    Spot on, Mr. Goldberg! You nailed it in a nutshell, although, I disagree about Benghazi. Two-thirds of the American people want answers on that one.
    Otherwise, I think the public has become numb to the Scandalpalooza that as become the Obama administration. It’s just one after another! Of course, if the Stepford MSM would actually do some reporting (like they would do if Obama were a Republican) and hammer away on these scandals, more people would be aware and engaged.
    But, you’re correct: The general populace is ignorant and uninformed and doesn’t want to hear about it. I can testify to that myself. Most people I know don’t want to hear it.
    Then people wonder why things don’t improve. (shakes head)

    • Drew Page

      I don’t think that the general populace is that stupid. But I do think they are disengaged from politics. Too many of these scandals crop up well before the next election and people get tired of hearing about them, especially when they feel there is nothing they can do about them. They are too busy dealing with their own problems, trying to pay bills, raise their kids, keeping a spouse happy, getting or keeping a job, trying to get a raise or seeking escape from their daily problems by tuning out unpleasant things and seeking escape in entertainment.

      When election time does roll around, very few have the time or the inclination to really dig into “the facts”. Each party has its own set of “facts” which contradict each other. So who can really know who is telling the truth? Out of necessity one should should ask “Am I better off today than I was before the current party took power?” If the answer is yes, vote to keep the current party in power. If the answer is no, vote for the other party.

  • retiredxlr8r

    Republicanism? “…if you can keep it….” A nation governed by a “secular” government? With a “moral” majority freedom will be protected. With a “secular” majority you get more government. We all know what results from more government, more taxes and poor government. Your call, keep voting your security and pocketbook and you will lock the shackles on yourself! Welcome to your chains and slavery!

  • J.R.

    Not having a black face on the ballot will cut into the democrat base i.e. 2010. Will remembering who butters their bread be enough to overcome their racism? That is the heart of the Dems problem. We’ll see.

  • Dennis

    For all of this nonsense about ‘fixing the ACA’ I have yet to hear a single suggestion as to how to do this. What ideas anyone has, especially the DEMs,about what they would propose to fix this gigantic cluster(blank).Clearly this is just another talking point to help get them through the election then you won’t lose a dime betting these hypocrites will ignore the whole mess.
    As to the minimum wage, no one has picked up the obvious fact that this is another of those feel good ideas libs have come up with to enslave people to government. This is what they are telling people: “Don’t worry about getting an education. Go ahead and drop of school at 16, have 3 kids by the time you’re 21 with no husband or father for them in sight. Or, father all of the children you want and take no responsibility for them. The government will subsidize your bad choices and poor decisions and we, the caring, compassionate, hanky-wringers of America will take money from those who work and give it to you. And, we’ll make sure that private businesses must also subsidize you’re unwillingness to take responsibility for yourselves and the children you cannot properly care for. After all, there will always be low or no skill required jobs that, along with all of the things government gives you, you’ll do okay. So, there is no reason for you too strive to improve yourselves or become productive members of society. Relax and remember to vote Democrat and be sure to have all of your relatives, even the dead ones, vote Democratic too.”

    • Drew Page

      Pelosi can then tell us all that we have to pass the 2,500 page legislation to “fix” Obama Care before we can find out what’s in it.

  • simonzee1

    Quick newsites references and political commentary and comedy along with Obama spoofs.

    http://www.appsbar.com/WebApp/Modules/content.php?ModuleType=Contents&AppID=640601&ModuleID=4970189

  • simonzee1

    Good quote.

    Aristotle said it best: “good men can muddle through the worst of constitutions; but bad men can wreck the best of them.”

    • Tova Feinman

      First Euripides, now Aristotle. I can’t think of any great Socrates quotes at the moment. Anyone have any ideas? When in doubt, return to democracy’s roots, the ancient Greeks. Wisdom is timeless, except in OUR time. How the Ancients’ lofty ideals have fallen.

      • Seattle Sam

        “I was really too honest a man to be a politician and live.”

        –Socrates

  • simonzee1

    Obama has shown reckless judgement yet again unless there is a bigger play with the C.I.A and these terrorists being let free. One things for sure…I don’t like Karzai’ s future after he has repeatedly snubbed Obama.

    Bowe Bergdahl deserted and Americans lost their lives.

    http://dailym.ai/1oZtmu6 @MailOnline

  • simonzee1

    On Al Jazeera news I saw an air strike in Luhansk in eastern Ukraine tonight. Civilians were running out of the debris. This is deplorable and unacceptable. It looks like only NATO and Kiev can do this without flouting international law. These are war crimes supported by the West.

  • kayakbob

    effectively combating Santa Claus requires, at some point, the understanding of citizens that everything has consequences…everything. The only questions are:
    1. who will be impacted – the obvious and not so obvious
    2. are the consequences immediate or down the road
    3. are the consequences severe or minimal
    4. are the consequences of action better or worse than the consequences of inaction.

    Until that happens, ‘Santa Claus’ will remain a very effective tool for Democrats

  • Deborah G

    Right Obama CARES so much about not splitting up Illegal families too. In fact he rounded up a few hundred in Texas and dumped them In Tuscon,Arizona at a bus stop [screw you Jan Brewer] That’s just how much he cares

  • joepotato

    Well said Bernie… You summed it up nicely by saying that “too many Americans are just too dumb to care,” which reflects the influence of propaganda/ indoctrination by the BS media and the feducation system. Even if many Demo-nazi voters stay home for the mid-terms, there are countless thousands of new undocumented Demo-voters coming in now… Many will sign up to vote for their favorite cause… amnesty and those that will make it happen.

  • savage24

    Well, between the brain dead electorate and the self serving politicians, no matter which party they belong the mid term elections will change little. The Republicans now want to fix ObamaCare, a bill that not one of them voted for. Then there’s talk of immigration reform, instead of enforcing the immigration laws and securing our borders. Therefore if the Republicans retain the House and win control of the Senate, they will do exactly what Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid want done and the voters will again be the losers. This is a government of the government, by the government, and for the government, soon they will not even need the electorate at election time. Like what Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is sign of insanity, explains our country today.

    • El_Tigre_Loco

      And “Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”

  • Buzzeroo

    So Obama touts an increased minimum wage without mentioning its terrible side effects and he squawks on about equal pay etc despite the fact that is already exists…………….So what;s new?
    He is clearly an out and out liar whose word isn’t worth a damned thing—domestically, internationally or otherwise.
    He may not be fooling all of the people all of the time but he sure as hell is doing so to a mindbogglingly high number of them…….as evidenced by the polls. By any sane logic, by now, bathed in domestic and foreign failure and saturated as he is with despicable scandal, his approval rating should be in the low single digits populated by the single digit IQ’s of that percentage of the population…But it is in the 40′s…which means that 40% of the population are also idiots.

    • El_Tigre_Loco

      He has even convinced the dead to vote for him.

  • Ksp48

    Never underestimate the power of ignorance.

  • 550d8e4c

    I am beginning to believe that American citizens need to become slaves. Its the only way they will learn what freedom is.

    • Larry blaspheming liberalism

      Worse than that — too many in this country act like they *want* to become slaves. Just give them food and dumb entertainment (Twitter, Facebook, TV (reality or otherwise), and they’ll let the government-god do whatever.

  • Seattle Sam

    Bernie, I can care just as much as any Democrat. Just give me your money and I’ll show you.

    • JanelleHumbert

      Funny, short and succinct, Sam!

  • Informed voter

    I know some people who I consider intelligent and are also up to speed on politics, and unfortunately they vote democratic! But I have little doubt that the majority of Americans are misinformed or totally uninformed. The bad news is many in this group vote!!!!

    • Deborah G

      Maybe his “base” won’t be so anxious to jump off their government subsideized housing sofas this time to vote for an old white woman who is from the South. Since they understand zero about politics she isn’t a draw hopefully. You just have to watch for the vapid white women who think sthere is a war on women[Hillary should know she has Obama tire tracks all over her back where he threw her under the bus] and the Hispanics who need to be shown the women and Children dumped and on their own.,

  • WiSe GuY

    I thought the pick-a-ninny in chief was going to blame Bush again.

    • Beawell12

      You are typical of the Republican base, racist at its core.

      • WiSe GuY

        I’m no more racist than 0bama. 0bama promotes racism.
        I have nothing against blacks. But, 0bama is a crack head, stealing nigger.

        • joepotato

          Nah… He’s a crack-head, thieving Indonesian with fake ID….

        • Jeff Webb

          WG, calling people the n-word isn’t allowed. Please don’t do it again.

      • Deborah G

        The only racists I see started with the Democrat KKK, LBJ saying “if I give the “N;s welfare we’ll have their vote for life” and the ensalvement they handed the poor black community. Obama is the Poster child for racial divide” IF I had a son he’d look just like Treyvon” Really? Nope another Pinnochio. Keep drinking the Koolaid and continue to blind yourself to the truth. There is a far better side on the right, THEY EMPOWER people not ensalve them.

      • American1969

        And you are a typical leftist: Playing Three-Race-Card-Monte (credit to Leslie) because you have nothing else.

      • Jeff Webb

        >>You are typical of the Republican base, racist at its core.<<

        Projection.

    • Deborah G

      he did LOL missed it?

  • Haaseline

    Republicans, have no concise strategy. They are either like the other side “negative chatter” ( because they see that strategy working for the deems ) or they have big programs explaining no features and benefits to make sense to swing voters…..Time to stop the battle and get you messaging right.. Its not going to happen…We need to stop spending time and $ on both sides dividing us vs getting things done…Oh thats called “Accountability”

    • American1969

      I agree we need accountability, but where has it been for the last six years? You complain about the Republican message, but LIVs don’t want to hear it: fiscal conservatism, fiscal responsibility, self-reliance, accountability, personal responsibility, etc.
      When that message gets put out, leftists and others scream that it’s “uncaring”! No, it’s called REALITY! If you want realistic and practical solutions, you need to vote for someone who is going to bring them, not pie-in-the-sky fairy tales like Obama promises.

      • Haaseline

        Read you message , it clear we agree. but all your message and GOP’S does is rally the base… all that stuff you rattle is great but if not held accountable …its nothing. Both the GOP & Dem’s have no accountability… just policies. We agree with the GOP’S, !!! If you don’t serve these things up and has accountability that that drives the results of all you wrote… then it’s just chatter….and chatter whether cons/lib is still chatter. Time for people who want to win over some of those people on the left or indep. to stuff that works.. with accountability and results. All that stuff you say and even my accountability plea, are foreign to most on the left. So KISS….Keep it simple , S….and show them how it works in layman simple terms… now if you are one of those who says I don’t give a damn about those on the left…well then thats part of the problem

  • Craggy old conservative

    Either we need to change our form of government or give a literacy test to each voter. Democracy is simply not working in this country. We are governed by pols elected by ignorant, illiterate, stupid and selfish brain dead voters. If this trend continues we are seriously fvked.

    • American1969

      I agree!
      Personally, I think that if you can’t name at least one of your elected prostitutes, you shouldn’t be going into a voting booth.
      It also doesn’t help that about half of the country is on the government dole. Of course they’ll vote for the one that promises them everything for “free”.

    • El_Tigre_Loco

      Which is why the founding fathers feared democracy and formed a republic.

  • gold7406

    Spot on Bernie, excellent article. It’s almost like when the Beatles arrived on the scene, they changed the entire music environment,the pop culture landscape and everything they did was embraced and enthusiastically supported. An entire generation of kids followed every word, every cultural shift, everything they experienced, became “the thing” to do. The Beatles made them feel good about themselves and the world they envisioned. The Dems have their own political Beatle. The Republican’s need a new political Elvis.

  • paperpushermj

    The only message left for Dems to push is Fear of Republicans.

    • American1969

      Or Three-Race-Card-Monte. That’s all they’ve got left.

  • Concernedmimi

    Republicans also have the Obama doctrine; ‘Everytime Obama is asked a question, he will beat around the BUSH (blame Bush), and if that doesn’t work, Lie, Lie, Lie’. Keep it short and take it on the campaign trail…..

  • RickonhisHarleyJohnson

    Right again, Bernie. Unfortunately, the low-info voter population is taking over our culture. For most of us, minimum wage has been around our entire lives; yet it hasn’t eliminated the lower economic class. Even if people don’t understand the economics (failed) of minimum wage, they should at least question why it hasn’t worked. Nah. Like you say, the Kardashians are more interesting to them.

  • gypsyrose1

    Bernie nailed it. There are a lot of people who vote, who only know what the headlines of the mainstream media says. Most of my coworkers don’t even want to hear about politics because they find it depressing.

  • mikecowan424

    This is the best article on the coming election which I have read so far.

  • Dave Andrews

    In a country where a majority of people could probably not name their two U S Senators or their representative, the Democrats have learned that it is easy to pander to uninformed voters. Tell them what they want to hear. It doesn’t matter if what you are saying will work or not. It will get you the votes, and that is really all that matters.

    • Deborah G

      It reminds me of my class elections when I was in school. The god guy promised to make the library available for longer hours and get more advanced info systems, have wheelchair access,make the courts available to everyone not just Varsity ,he also wanted to set out a plan for Charity work. The other guy a varsiity BMOC said he’d give them all free lunches on his Mom and a free for all day with food………he won

    • American1969

      Exactly! Spot on!

  • at

    And Bernie rock’s! I picked up the Slobbering Love Affair book about Obama it was so true back then as it is now!

  • at

    I always love it when the government thinks that they know better than I how to..raise a family, healthcare, diet and so on. The only good use for an Obama speech is to put my 3 year old to sleep. True story

    • JanelleHumbert

      Useful for testing new earphones, too.