Do We Really Want Another Coronation in 2016?

Queen HillaryMaybe you’ve seen the bumper stickers, or at least heard about them – the ones that say “I’m Ready for Hillary.”  Surely you know about the CNN documentary about Mrs. Clinton that’s in the works — and the NBC mini-series that’s “in development.”  Or how about The New York Times decision that’s already put a reporter on the Hillary beat — full time?  Or that Twitter account she  just opened.  So why waste everybody’s time with that silly question we all know the answer to?

Of course she’ll run in 2016.  And when she does, she’ll win the nomination even if some other Democrat is foolish enough to waste his time running against her.  The more important question, the only one that really matters, is:  Will she win the presidency in 2016?

Predicting the outcome of a presidential election more than three years off is like predicting the weather – 300 years from today.  Anything can happen in politics and it usually does.  But let’s play Carnac anyway.

Here’s what we know for sure:  the so-called mainstream media will be her most loyal base just as they are currently President Obama’s.  The media were in charge of making the arrangements for the coronation in 2008 and 2012 and they’ll be just as anxious to put on another one in 2016.

But a slobbering media won’t be enough.  Journalists didn’t single-handedly sink John McCain or Mitt Romney – they weren’t great candidates in their own right – and it won’t be enough to ensure a Hillary victory.  There are other factors working in her favor.

I recently came across a few in a piece in the Daily Beast by Myra Adams, a self-described “lifelong Republican” which ran under the headline “16 Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Win in 2016.”  I won’t torture my conservative friends with all 16 reasons, but here are a few:

The media, as I’ve said, will be ready to crown a “queen.”

Also noted earlier, she will have no primary opposition, or a symbolic opponent at best.

She has plenty of money.

The black voting bloc along with Hispanics and Asians are hers to lose.

Bill Clinton will be a tremendous asset.

Hillary has the Electoral College working in her favor.  Here’s what Ms. Adams writes about that:

“In 2012 the final Electoral College results were 332 for Obama and 206 for Romney. If Romney had won the battleground states of Florida (29 votes), Ohio (18 votes), and Virginia (13 votes), Obama would still have been reelected but by a closer margin of 272 to 266.

“Now, just because Obama won well over 300 electoral votes does not mean Hillary will repeat that achievement. However, the path to 270 is much easier for any Democrat candidate given current and future demographic growth and established voting patterns.”

And then there’s The Great Social Movement argument put forth by Ms. Adams:

“A great social movement to elect the first Madame President is gathering wind and will reach sustained hurricane strength on November 5, 2014—the day after the midterm elections and the ‘official start’ of the 2016 presidential campaign.

“Akin to the movement that elected the first African-American president in 2008, the ‘Madame President movement’ will be propelled by the mainstream media, Hollywood, and social media. Together they will build momentum and coalitions across all platforms, while reveling in their awesome social and cultural significance. You will hear the ‘triumph of the ’60s feminist movement.’ You will hear that you will be ‘voting to make history.’ And you will hear that your vote will be used as a ‘hammer to break through the glass ceiling of the Oval Office.’

“Warning,” Myra Adams tells us, “Prepare for the onslaught, because it is coming your way.”

But can the race really be over before it’s even begun?  Conservatives say anyone who thinks Hillary Clinton is invincible has a very short memory.  With all her name recognition she still couldn’t beat a virtually unknown senator who hadn’t even served one full term in Washington — so how is she going to beat a real GOP candidate with ideas, especially after 8 years of chronically high unemployment and the onset of ObamaCare?

There’s more.  Americans don’t usually elect a candidate from the same party three times in a row.  It happens, but only rarely.  George H.W. Bush did succeed Ronald Reagan, who served two terms. And FDR won four times in a row — and was succeeded by Harry Truman.  But historically, the odds are against another Democrat winning the White House after two terms by fellow Democrat Barack Obama.

But Republicans need to understand that history isn’t destiny.  It’s only a rear view mirror.

What about another Republican argument, the one that says when you get right down to it, Hillary has no real record to run on.  Name one major (or even minor) accomplishment she’s had while Secretary of State, they ask? And that line about “what difference does it make” how four Americans were killed in Benghazi will come back to haunt her, they predict.

I don’t think so.  We live in the United States of Low Information Voters.  They don’t care about Hillary’s record.  They like her and that’s enough for them.  And there are plenty of “them.”  Hillary constantly scores high in favorability polls.  And don’t forget that Barack Obama had no record to run on either.  He won because there were enough fans out there who just plain liked him.

I have no predictions on the outcome of the 2016 race, not this far out anyway. But I will predict this: If Republican true-believers demand ideological purity – if the nominee has to be a rigid, take-no-prisoners conservative on every issue from immigration reform to abortion, and gay rights, and embryonic stem cell research – Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States of America.

“Real conservatives” didn’t like Mitt Romney and about 3 million of them stayed home on Election Day, assuring a second term for Barack Obama.  If a hard-right candidate gets the nomination in 2016, a different 3 million Republicans may very well sit home.

This is not an argument in favor of a moderate Republican.  I believe what the great Bill Buckley believed.  He wanted the most conservative candidate who could actually win the general election to get the nomination.  So do I.

But if the GOP insists on having a Civil War instead of a Big Tent, if the hardliners refuse to understand that in politics you don’t always get precisely what you want, then they will get something they not only don’t want, but don’t even want to think about:  President Hillary Clinton.

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  • AgentofACORN

    This is the problem with you low information types. This was a blog post by another low information type. It states specifically that the post was not vetted by CNN. Nice try though.

    • George Williams

      Low information types? I have a library of over 2000 books and a degree in Chemical Engineering. What is your education?

  • TOMMY FREEDOM

    PONYTAILS ARE NOW PROHIBITED FROM HIGH OFFICE !!

  • Wil

    >Here’s what we know for sure: the so-called mainstream media will be her most loyal base just as they are currently President Obama’s<

    .
    And, here’s what we know for sure: the Fox Network, conservative right wing groups, and conservative talk radio, with their, loyal base. Will vilify Hillary,
    just as they are currently are doing to President Obama.

    • George Williams

      Both Obama and Hillary are corrupt political hacks, with all the morals of Lenin. Hillary and Obama has accomplished nothing, except to create irrational sycophantic cults comprised of ignorant leftists.

      • Wil

        George, Get a grip on reality. BTW, we know what political leaders you hate. Name some you like. So, we can determine where you are coming from. I’m kidding of coarse.

        • George Williams

          Believe it or not, I was a Democrat for almost two decades. My parents were Democrats. I finally matured and saw the irrationality of their logic and how they resort to disinformation and ad hominem attack during debate. It was getting a grip on reality that made a conservative.

      • TOMMY FREEDOM

        PERFECTLY SAID, THANK YOU !

  • TOMMY FREEDOM

    NO MORE PERSONS IN HIGH OFFICE WEARING A PONYTAIL !

  • AgentofACORN

    My prediction is Hillary vs. Chris Christie in 2016, with Hillary of course winning. Sadly, we’ll have to go through the clown car show again of people like Bachmann, Santorum, etc

    • plsilverman

      wow…..keep writing!

      • George Williams

        Yeah, keep writing, sycophant silverfivish is getting a thrill up his leg.

        • plsilverman

          …our resident Rhodes Scholar has again honored us!

          • George Williams

            I’ve asked you time and again, stop responding to my posts.

          • plsilverman

            shucks, I gotta respond to the things *you* start. especially when my name comes up in an insulting way. so you say you are not a scholar? :/

          • George Williams

            Stop responding to my posts, or I’ll tell on you. Where’s my lawyer. I’ll have to take action.

          • plsilverman

            responding is not initiating….. :)

          • George Williams

            There you go again, posting against my will. Bernie, where do these idiots come from. Please throw him out of this blog. Where’s my lawyer!

    • George Williams

      My prediction is that Hillary will be diagnosed with inoperable and fatal cancer and die in agony before 2014. That prediction is far more acceptable.

      • TOMMY FREEDOM

        EXCELLENT, MR WILLIAMS, SIR !!!

        • TOMMY FREEDOM

          MR WILLIAMS POSTS SHOULD BE PRINTED !

  • mthammer

    What I dont understand about you & Oreilly is how can both of you think that Hillary Clinton has a chance to even be considered for President in 2016. She lied at the hearings in front of Congress , she lied to the American people in front of the 4 Dead American Bodies , saying that they died because of a Video. She told her Secretary to the United nations to go on TV and lie to the American people , that it was a video. Her Boss Obama 14 days after he and her knew that the Benghazi Attack was a terrorist attack, addressed the United Nations that itwas a video. Where Bernie is the credibility of this woman and all the lies she has told to us and our representatives in Washington. Even after the ARB investigation , she named 4 people in the state Department that were responsible for partly what happened in Benghazi, now just a week a go her replacement John Kerry reinstated all 4 saying that they had careers that were honorable . Where the 4 people that died didnt have any so called careers , what disgusting rhetoric , but still you two say she has it locked up and cant be beat in 2016. Well than why dont you and Oreilly just through away your conservative ways and retire . You just dont care like everyone else in this country and support these phonies in Congress and the Frauds Bill and his lying wife Hillary.

    • AgentofACORN

      Because none of what you say is true.

      • George Williams

        Everything mthammber said is absolutely true, having been well documented in the press. Only her pathetic sycophantic followers still believe in this witches credibility. This woman even lied about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the first to climb Mt. Everest, saying that she was named after him. Sir Edmund didn’t become famous until he climbed Everest a few years after he was born. Hillary lied about being under fire in Bosnia. She lied about her daughter’s whereabouts at the time of the 9/11 attacks, stating that she was near the Twin Towers. The woman is a pathological liar. Perhaps that’s why she gets along with her unscrupulous husband who regularly perjured himself when he got into trouble. You ACORN people are just nuts about this disciple of Saul Alinksi, a man who use lying as a tool, as do all modern Democratic Politicians.

        • AgentofACORN

          Does it ever bother you that everything you know is only true within the confines of the Conservative Media alternate universe? We know you live there because apparently Saul Alinsky is bigger than Oprah there.

          • George Williams

            First of all, I do not watch only the conservative media. It’s the common misconception of the left, that conservatism is the consequence of conservative media like Fox. The fact is that the vast majority of conservatives are independent thinkers, who have a fundamentally different philosophy of life than the left, which is socialist. Fox owes its existence to conservatives, not the other way around. You believe in the collective, that government is a club which consists of the citizens and that every citizen owes something to every other citizen, and that this obligation should be enforced by use of force of he government. Like Elizabeth Warren (someone I despise by the way) , a manipulative populist for whom capitalism is anathema, you believe in the idea that the successful citizen owes his success to the collective. Conservatives believe in the achievement of the individual and that the only purpose of government is to foster an environment for the success of the individual citizen. Somehow you believe that if we’d only listen to your masters in the main stream media we would believe what you do, but that will never be the case. I could give up Fox tomorrow, listen to MSNBC and the rest and never come to the same conclusions you have on the philosophy of government and the citizen’s relationship to it.

            Saul Alinksi was an unethical manipulative man for whom the truth was whatever was convenient to his goals. He believed that the ends-jusifies-the-means when it came to achieving his objectives. If you believe in his kind of politics that would mean mean that you are as unethical as he. ACORN was spawned by Alinsky. If you are a supporter of ACORN than we have nothing in common to discuss.

          • Wil

            George, Just where do you get your information from? Don’t you know, they are lying to you.

          • George Williams

            Just which part is a lie?

          • Wil

            >Elizabeth Warren (someone I despise by the way)<
            .
            After, that said, there is reasoning with you.

          • George Williams

            Yes, I agree. I have been very reasonable. Warren is a collectivist, who believes that we are not deserving of full credit for our financial successes; that the government is entitled to an unspecified amount of credit that may only be determined by government itself.

          • AgentofACORN

            As soon as you invoke Saul Alinsky, you reveal yourself as a drone of the Conservative Media. You confuse Alinsky with Karl Rove. ACORN was an organization that worked for social justice and stronger communities. It was neither militant nor corrupt. It was targeted by the Conservative Media and eviscerated for the crime of helping black people. Anything else you ascribe to them is part of the fantasy world created by the Conservative Media.

          • George Williams

            Alinsky and ACORN advocate the redistribution of wealth. ACORN is corrupt, full of thieves. They are Marxists.

          • AgentofACORN

            you do realize of course that ACORN no longer exists? or perhaps you don’t. Based on your comments, you are obviously one of the low information voters that Bernie speaks of. You parrott Conservative talking points well, but beyond that there’s no substance.

          • George Williams

            The Chicago branch of ACORN was nothing but a tool of the SEIU. They shared offices and telephone lines in the same building. The SEIU and ACORN are nothing but thugs who solicit money by coercion. They’ve been known to intimidate the families of executives of businesses for the purpose of obtaining funding. Social justice is little more than rebranded communism and code words for the communist motto, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” ACORN has been investigated time and again for voter registration fraud. I thank God that they were defunded by Congress.

          • AgentofACORN

            Lol. Repeating unsubstantiated propaganda doesn’t make if true.

    • plsilverman

      can you prove she “lied”? By the way, it is not a “lie” if one reports what is believed at the time. Just maybe, someone recalled the circumstances of Salman Rushti, a while back. She “knew”… >>> by your standards, Nixon, LBJ, Reagan,, and Bush II should have been at the mercy of the Marshalls that Newt likes to reference.

      • George Williams

        That’s the new standard for the left. When faced with defending the obvious, they demand absolute proof from the accuser. I expect such tactics from street thugs, but not from our government. Needless to say, they wouldn’t accept such a standard for crimes committed by a Republican.

  • John Daly

    >> why do care what I write to Greta?

    I DON’T care at all. But you asked me to give you an example of one person that you’ve specifically called a “racist”. You’ve claimed over and over again that you’ve NEVER labeled anyone a racist – not in the “cosmos” or “multiverse.” Those were your words. Yet, I only had to go as far as your Twitter feed to find that you absolutely DO call people “racists.”

    In the past, you’ve hidden behind the ridiculous notion that if you accuse someone of hating black people, that’s not the same thing as calling them a racist. OF COURSE it’s the same thing. But in your last post, you challenged me to give you a specific example of when you called some a racist – not that they SAID something racist, but that they ARE a racist.

    I answered the challenge. I gave you the example you asked for. No amount of back-peddling on your part is going to change that.

    >>why are so obsessed with continuing to write to me?

    YOU asked ME a question. If you didn’t want me to answer it, you shouldn’t have asked it.

    • plsilverman

      you’re getting sweaty. NAME ONE PERSON, give me a NAME of anyone I have called a “RACIST”. You seem to be trying to turn the tables on me to show, ooh, look HE’S THE RACIST! Once again I’ll say that I read “racist statements” by people and I respond by saying I’m offended by these statements. my responses do not automatically make ANYONE a racist or a cup of coffee or whatever you imagine.. Tell me how saying that Fox has made racist statements means I have called AN INDIVIDUAL a “racist”?
      your desperation is showing and I ask you to quit harassing me. I said do not initiate anything to me. If you do , and I respond, then dig it..the whole thing ceases, no?
      I see from your Facebook page you are a published novelist. then freaking act like one. quit bothering a guy like me, with a very modest following from radio (approx. 14 years) and local newspapers here and on the East Coast.

      • John Daly

        LOL. You just gave me an entire list! Scroll up.

        After your hand was caught in the cookie jar when I pointed out your tweet to Greta in which you said MANY of her guests were racists (not that they said racist things, but that they WERE actual racists), you gave me a list of the individuals you were referring to, including Newt Gingrich.

        Again, you’re EXACT quote: “ok, he’s not a racist. unlike SO MANY of your welcome guests. (sorry..it’s true).”

        You didn’t tell her that SO MANY of her guests said “racist things”. You said that SO MANY of her guests were racists themselves. And as I just pointed out, you then gave me a list of exactly who you were referring to while shamelessly trying to spin what you originally said, as if I’d somehow miraculously forget what you had actually tweeted.

        Your question has been answered. You can continue to squirm and complain that you wrote something different than you did, but a man would just own up to what they did. And again, this distinction is trivial in the first place. There’s no difference whatsoever between saying “Jerry hates black people” and “Jerry is a racist.” Playing the semantics game only makes you look like a coward.

        Now please, “cease and desist” from feeding me bologna, and if you don’t want me to respond to your posts, stop asking me questions and playing the race card against the writers on this website.

        • plsilverman

          very, very desperate, ain’t ya? Foxnews DOES feature racists, in my opinion: Newt, and I assume COulter and InGraham have been on her show. They are no doubt racist. You don’t think they are? ha! Look at Laura’s DIARIES book! Ok, ya wanna play Mr. Cross Examiner? Any major pubic figure can be scrutinized at that level. although in your opinion, obviously, there are no racists left in the world, except possibly Obama, as I assume you are a Glenn Beck fan. On THIS SITE I have never ID’d any one as a racist – just saying racist things – which means we can assume there’s an *issue*. Yes, I should stop initiating REPLIES to you. :) “Playing the race card”…good one…that means if the KKK comes to town and we call them racist, then we are playing that card. very handy, very convenient.

          • John Daly

            >>Foxnews DOES feature racists, in my opinion

            Then stop lying by saying that you don’t call people racists, now that you’ve admitted that you absolutely do.

            This is really pretty remarkable.

            You have been denying wholeheartedly that you do this for probably over a year now, and then when your feet are finally held to the fire and you’re forced to admit that you were lying about this the whole time, you try to play it off like it’s no big deal. Now you’re even changing the criteria again which I knew you would.

            Now, instead of trying to swiftly change the argument, why don’t you just take a couple of breaths and feel good about yourself for finally being honest about how you really feel.

          • plsilverman

            give me credit, I’m winning every single round with you – a published novelist! You are desperate and sweaty…and cannot believe that Foxnews puts out racist views: I.e. O’REILLY: paraphrase: Blacks are still better off here than if they stayed in Africa. nah, that’s not a racist statement. But why would you call Bill a racist, where I simply say he made/makes racist *statements*? :)

          • John Daly

            lol. Bless your heart, Phil. I’m always amused by the tendency of liberals to proclaim victory right after they’ve been completely obliterated by a little thing called the truth. Whatever helps you sleep better at night, man.

          • plsilverman

            “obliterated”? good one….how come I did not go down in the first round? here you are sweating in the 10th…wobbly. “the truth”? yes, no more racism since 01-20-09…only at 1600 and at the Capital, esp. with the Black Caucus. Interesting that a known novelist uses that phrase and with zero facts, figures, cites. even fiction has *some* grounding in reality.
            But you won’t miss me: Foxnews is always a good friend…what do you think of Hannity being shuffled around, like Beck, Malkin, Rove, Morris, Ingraham? He’s being replaced by a real journalist. I may have to go back – to see how Samman’s memos are being handled these days. wonder if they will now allow any poetic license? ok, I’ve replied to you…now, so long.

          • John Daly

            Nonsensical rambling from a man now arguing only with himself.

          • plsilverman

            I know one person who is watchin’ and clockin’!

          • George Williams

            All of your clowns, Ed Schultz, Madcow, Lawrence O’Donnell, Matthews are wacko failures. The only reason they’re on the air is because they are on life support from George Soros and left wing money bags. Hopefully they’ll go the way of Air America, Al Gore’s show, out of business. Hannity, Limbaugh and O’Reilly are making new records in their categories. That’s why Obummer, the high and mighty president of these United States, mentions them so often. No other president has ever tried to silence one news source more vociferously than Barack Obama and his party. At any other time in the history of the U.S., an attempt at silencing opposing views using the presidential bully pulpit would be considered blasphemy by the entire press corps, but no longer. It’s because the main stream press no longer believe in the 1st Amendment, because they are in Obama’s pocket. Fox is the last bastion of giving an alternate point of view to the left’s propaganda, and exercising their 1st Amendment rights is in the way of the Democratic Party and Obama’s goal of political hegemony. Who do the people think are more credible? Only a few silly people like you are still watching MSNBC. You picked the wrong topic on which to use talk show media to compare the credibility of the left and right.

          • plsilverman

            really? have you seen their paychecks? are foxnews people successes because they get 6,000,000 viewers instead of 2,000,000? Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Drudge, Coulter, Ingraham…..true examples of great success. (pause). no more posts to me, how about that? you really *cannot* control that impulse! :) I guess since I went back to Barbisol and Aqua Velva, I’m irresistible.

          • George Williams

            I know many people like you, aged but immature, retarded in intellectual growth. Like all of the left, when you continually lose on the merits you resort to “no more posts to me.” It proves my point. You cannot stand anyone making cogent rebuttals, so you just say that you don’t want to talk to me. How mature is that?

          • plsilverman

            your use of words like “jackass”, “butthead”, “senile” in my direction do not betray confidence on your part.

          • George Williams

            I use the words that apply to the jackass/butthead that you are.

          • George Williams

            ” are foxnews people successes because they get 6,000,000 viewers instead of 2,000,000? ”

            Uh, yes they are. They get paid what they do because this is a capitalist society where people are rewarded when they are successful. No one is paying attention to the pathetic representatives of the Marxist government, known as Madcow, O’Donnell, Matthews and Schultz.

          • George Williams

            O’REILLY: paraphrase: Blacks are still better off here than if they stayed in Africa. nah, that’s not a racist statement.

            Considering poverty and disease are still rampant on the continent of Africa, they are better off in the U.S. than those who live there. The practice of slavery among Africans themselves and tribal warfare were common in Africa up until modern times. They mastered slavery long before Europeans took up the trade, a fact that is conveniently forgotten by leftists haters of imperialism. Life spans were very short until modern times. Their still shorter than African Americans. The standards of living of Blacks in the U.S. are superior than those of Africa. It is currently the dream of millions of Africans to emigrate to the U.S. In the long haul, as a race, black people are better off than if they stayed in Africa. Blacks are better educated, have a higher standard of living and live longer than those on the Continent. If you insist on keeping your hostile mindset against white people, and conveniently only consider the few hundred years of the slave trade between Africa and North America, up to the time of the Civil War, you’d be neglecting the ultimate positive outcome of Africans who were forcibly removed from Africa. The leftists only dwell on the nature of the path of social progress, and never celebrate its ultimate success. This is mainly because they have a loathing for their own race. You won’t find psychological feeding on racial self loathing on the part of Africans whose tribes practiced kidnapping and slavery in their ancestral lands. They’ve moved on, but unfortunately we have people like silverfish that make it their life’s work to keep the wounds open. Those are not racist statements, but irrefutable facts.

          • George Williams

            “They are no doubt racist.” And we’re supposed to accept your opinion as valid? You lefties call everyone who disagrees with Obama a racist. You and your ilk’s credibility cupboard is bare, I’m afraid your definition of racism is far too encompassing to be believable. You use is it so often in an ad hominem way to discredit your opposition that you rarely argue on the merits of issues anymore. You believe you’ve won when you’ve called the opposition a racist. True debate doesn’t work that way.

  • docww

    It’s a long slide down that Democratic hill but as you point out we are likely to make it. Sigh….

    • plsilverman

      yes, we should privatize all agencies, start 3 new wars, send social security to wall street and end Civil Rights and Voting Rights legislation. let’s all be GOP!nge

  • mthammer

    I was really schocked on Oreilly’s show that you and Bill were so animate in saying Rodrigues was guilty of taking steroids without a trial or evidence . All they have is one mans word that he took enhancing drugs , supprised thatyou both Conservatives are ready to lock him up and throw the key away. Also about Hillary as much as she lied during Benghazi , how can you and Bill say that she is a definate Nominee for Democratic Candidate in 2016. She has to be the worse Secretary of State in American History however they will give idiots awards for anything wont they. How many awards has she gotten already form the public, so are there that many ignorant stupid people in this country. Professionals no less , so I guess evryone is on the take , corrupt politicians as well . Hillary lied to the relatives of the 4 Americans that died in Benghazi , she lied to the American Public that it was a video and not a terrorist attack , now her buddy John Kerry who today just reenstated the 4 people that were supposedly responsible for the Americans dying in Benghazi. The reason that was given is they were career federal employees , with past great history with the State Department . So that is how these corrupt politicians get away with murder , why dont you get in front of these phonies like the Clintons , running deficits in the Clinton Foundation a charitable organizationread the New York Times , they put all that dirty laundry ot there, I wonder Why ? These politicians are nothing but a corrupt organization run by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations ) , who are telling Obama what to do everyday . They have the money and the power , The Rockerfella’s , Carnegies , who do you think started the Federal Reserve , come on Bernie you know all of this . Whats is the People in Washington going to do when two million guntoting citizens march on Washington and get rid of them all, Obama is even worrying abut a military coupe.

    • legal eagle

      Wow…that’s a lot of hate and paranoia in one post…..perhaps you should get back on your meds?

      • Drew Page

        Make up your mind legal eagle, are you a lawyer or a doctor?

        • legal eagle

          I’m not a doctor…I only play one on right wing blogs…

          • George Williams

            The only part of a doctor that you play well is the quack.

    • plsilverman

      I’m eager to learn: how is she the “worst”?

      • Drew Page

        Some people never learn, Phil. You are one of them.

        • plsilverman

          care to expand on that? what am I supposed to “learn” from U and others here? – how Obama is the anti-Christ?
          this site is now a true Hate Site. very, very intolerant of ANY pro-Obama statement – unwilling to provide any substance to the personal attacks on those who disagree. By the way, you would never say the above statement to my face, I can absolutely guarantee that. So, if you want to embarrass Mr. Goldberg with personal attack and no points to discuss, that’s your choice.

          • Jeff Webb

            I’ve asked before, and sincerely hope you will answer this time: why exactly would people not say these things to your face?

          • plsilverman

            because repeated harassment via print is much different from interpersonal harassment. if you saw me standing directly in front of you, you would not try to harass me. does that curl your toes? :)
            tell ya what? how about we discuss a few issues that Goldberg has generously provided? :)

          • Jeff Webb

            If you were standing in front of someone, would you try one of your tired little racism accusations to his face?

          • John Daly

            You beat me to it, Jeff. Eagerly awaiting Phil’s answer to this.

          • plsilverman

            yes. especially, if it was something like what I’ve read here and elsewhere on the Hate-Obama 24/7 Continuum: then it would be very vital and necessary to correct the “racist” speaker. it would be by duty. in fact, come to think of it, I have pointed out racism and usually the speaker storms away.
            I was in a huge, warehouse type grocery when a slow witted individual made fun of my “[Obama] Made in the USA” tee shirt. I smiled and we kibitzed a bit…then his racist remarks came out and I said they were…he walked away in a huff. I was in a Coffee Place with the same tee shirt and a very strange dude commented about Obama’s ethnicity. I responded accordingly.
            but it would be very bizarre if someone walked up to me and called me an idiot because somehow they channeled my presence at a McDonald’s and said they read my posts on a the BG site. I doubt that would happen because I’m an athletic 5’9 with a winning smile. But if it did…I’d say “really? why?”. then I guess the person would get frustrated and walk away. You see, I have called people “John Bircher” and “O’Reilly Premium Member”, which implies an intellectuality of the “rhetorical adversary”, thus showing respect. I would never, ever call anyone an idiot, a moron, whatever. That is NOT how I was brung up.

          • Jeff webb

            Impressive, thorough post. I hope it didn’t take up too much of your time, seeing it would’ve been sufficient enough to say “Of course I would. Proper interpersonal conduct doesn’t apply to me.”
            You have more than self-respect, P. You are stuffed with arrogance, which you clearly haven’t earned.
            At times you’re a little amusing, like with the haughty “don’t initiate posts,” or when you try to intimidate people who police this site. Unfortunately, more often you’re not remotely amusing. You have this unhealthy need to shut others up, be it with race-carding (yeah, I know, you’re justified, save it), threatening to tattle, threatening to sue, and the tough-guy act you just tried to explain away.
            Regarding that, I would absolutely say directly to your face (well, more like scalp–I’m 6’6) that race-baiting is the mark of a small person, pint-sized in your case. People who have to deal with you deserve better, you don’t.
            My advice: either get over yourself or get elsewhere.

          • plsilverman

            race baiting is very bad – I’ve never done it. I’ve been around it – seen it in print, right here. that’s funny, about “threatening to sue”, etc. that’s like when the guy who’s threatened “threatens” the threatening party to get someone with legal expertise to cut the crap emanating from said party
            I guess it’s un-American to speak one’s mind, esp. in the area of race. Name one individual I have called a racist. Never have / would. I’ve said that some statements come off as racially charged ..or unintentionally “racist” and not indicative of that writers’ beliefs. If I’m such a tiny little dude (yeah, I know I’m only 5’9) and with such a tiny Twitter following, then why act so defensive about stuff on this too-often racially obsessed site? just say, in all confidence, who’s gonna listen to this blowhard? hehehe…………

          • John Daly

            >>race baiting is very bad – I’ve never done it.

            OH. MY. GOD. Phil, it’s ALL you do. You might as well have it printed on your business card.

            >> Name one individual I have called a racist.

            Just scroll up…

            “you cannot accept the fact that a young African American Liberal can be in charge.”

            That IS calling some a racist, Phil. Do you think the avoidance of saying word-for-word “You are a racist” in favor of accusing someone of thinking black people are inferior to white people, or that they hate black people is NOT calling someone a racist?

            That would be like me calling you a moron, and then saying, “Hey, I never said you were dumb.”

            How about offering a defense for once that doesn’t make you sound like you’re five years old?

          • plsilverman

            how about this?: it’s reasonable to assume that a lot of non-Liberals detest the idea of a young African American in charge? >>>by the way, thanx 4 clearing up the my “confusion” about how a poster is being charitable when he calls me an idiot – I now understand, thanks to U, that he was being charitable just to *post* to me.

          • John Daly

            >>it’s reasonable to assume that a lot of non-Liberals detest the idea of a young African American in charge?

            Are there people in this country who don’t like the idea of a black president? I’m sure there are. Are there A LOT of these people? I don’t believe so.

            Regardless, you pick out specific people and accuse them of being racist when they express a dislike for the things Obama is doing to this country. That’s race-baiting. That’s playing the race card.

            >>by the way, thanx 4 clearing up the my “confusion” about how a poster is
            being charitable when he calls me an idiot – I now understand, thanks
            to U, that he was being charitable just to *post* to me.

            You’re welcome.

          • plsilverman

            what is this obsession to write to me? enuff, okay? let’s go our separate ways.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>what is this obsession to write to me?<>enuff, okay? let’s go our separate ways.<<

            Okay, buh-bye now. You're welcome to visit again if you like, especially welcome if you develop a sense of common decency.

          • plsilverman

            I don’t like being called indecent, ill-advised, inappropriate, unethical, narcissistic, prideful – nah, no obsessiveness there. Further, I don’t need your invitation to visit this site…who appointed you gatekeepers? I don’t like your continuous insults – the above post is another example: no facts, no figures, no percentages, no history, just subjectivity, anger directed at me. Over what? Who knows? You say this site has not devolved intro a true Hate Site, I say it does. And once again, please do not send posts to me, as much as I find them very funny, actually very peculiar, from a chosen Commentator – personally attacking those with whom you disagree. Interesting. >>>You say no one follows me but then get wildly over defensive when I say something like a particular posts strikes me as racially charged. On this site, it seems 95% of the main content is complaints about African Americans.>>>No more trash on my front lawn, fellas. I’ve asked you not to initiate posts to me and it just does not work – the “new” readers should know that, too.

          • John Daly

            >>I don’t like being called indecent, ill-advised, inappropriate, unethical, narcissistic, prideful – nah, no obsessiveness there.

            I don’t like your incessant use of the race card and your routine proclamations that people who think differently than you are racists.

            >>I don’t like your continuous insults

            Ditto.

            >>Over what? Who knows?

            Oooohhhh, such a mystery! If only people would speak up about why they take offense to your posts, like, for example, telling you that they don’t appreciate you calling everyone who doesn’t support Obama’s policies a racist.

            >>And once again, please do not send posts to me, as much as I find them very funny, actually very peculiar, from a chosen Commentator – personally attacking those with whom you disagree.

            In other words, “please do not criticize my despicable and routine use of the race card to vilify those who disagree with me. It’s okay for me to call you a racist, but it’s not okay for you to take issue with being called a racist.”

            >>Your “tag team partner” here says that no one follows me but then he (like you) gets wildly over defensive

            Not defensive. Fed up.

            >>On this site, it seems 95% of the main content is complaints about African Americans

            Not 100%? After all, when you’ve managed to convince yourself that anyone who disagrees with you is a racist, and that their views are simply motivated by a disdain for African Americans. So since none of the writers on this website subscribe to your worldview of “Everything President Obama does is wonderful, and if you don’t agree, you’re a racist,” why not 100%?

            >>No more trash on my front lawn, fellas.

            Your lawn? Such an odd perspective a weed must have of its surroundings.

            >>I’ve asked you not to initiate posts to me and it just does not work – the “new” readers should know that, too

            Even new readers understand what a public forum is, Phil… even if you don’t.

          • plsilverman

            as Jackie Gleason once said, What ever you’re drinking, get me a case of it…just kidding. >>> maybe you’re right, since Obama became President – TWICE – there is NO MORE RACISM – sorry, there are NO MORE RACIALLY CHARGED posts on Hate Sites. one last thing: name ONE PERSON I HAVE EVER CALLED A “RACIST”. Anywhere in this Cosmos or the Multiverse, which I don’t believe in. :)

          • John Daly

            >> maybe you’re right, since Obama became President – TWICE – there is NO
            MORE RACISM – sorry, there are NO MORE RACIALLY CHARGED posts on Hate
            Sites.

            lol. I love it. You say, “maybe I’m right,” before describing an assertion that I’ve never made, nor have ever implied. Classic deflection, Phil. Nicely done.

            >>name ONE PERSON I HAVE EVER CALLED A “RACIST”.

            As opposed to telling people that they’re saying racist things, and accusing people of hating black people which you do routinely? Okay, here you go:

            A tweet you sent to Greta Van Susteren: “ok, he’s not a racist. unlike SO MANY of your welcome guests. (sorry..it’s true).”

            You clearly called “many” of her guests racists, so would you now like to use that third-grade logic of yours to explain why that doesn’t count?

          • plsilverman

            part 2: if my logic is 3rd grade…why are so obsessed with it? Is it ..[key of F#]..Lo-o-o-ove, is many-y-y-y splendored th-i-i-in-n-ng. (not that there’s anything wrong with that!).
            I’m not available.

          • George Williams

            Frankly, 3rd grade is one level above your competence.

          • George Williams

            “Name one person I have ever called a “racist”. That would be me, and everyone else who’s been called a Bircher by you in this blog or on the street.

          • George Williams

            You are indecent, silverfish. As a supporter of Obama you are an unwitting co-conspirator of the most corrupt presidency in the history of this country and worthy of the disdain heaped upon you by your opposition in this blog. If you don’t like criticism, move over to the Huffpo, or prepare to suffer the contempt that you so richly deserve.

          • George Williams

            He’s not obsessive. Why don’t you go to HuffPo if you need affirmation of your beliefs in discussions with others? And take Legaleagle with you. You never give point by point counterarguments to Bernie’s articles, you just attack commenters who do in a ad hominem way. If anyone has an obsession it is you, by your insistence in hanging around a blog which you never contribute intellectually to.

          • plsilverman

            you must read Media Matters and Huff. a lot more than me. :) I probably read National Review more than you.

          • George Williams

            How’s this? There are a lot of liberals who will tolerate a lot of incompetence, amateurism, anti-Constitutional behavior, disregard of rule of law, failure to enforce our immigration policies, diminishment of national security, bad logic, mean spiritedness, race bating, narcissism, lying and Alinski end justifies the means politics on the part of a black president simply because they’ve invested in so much unwarranted expectations of him solely because of white guilt of past injustices. This is manifest in their awarding him a Nobel Peace Prize for absolutely no reason at all. Our nation is put on the sacrificial altar of their idea of hope and change. The outcome of the pathetic sycophancy of old time liberals is an affirmative action presidency of a man who we have no more expectations from than we would of a D student neurosurgeon..

          • plsilverman

            you have finally identified the source of most of our problems: the hard right ideologues at the capital.

          • George Williams

            You do race bait. Your tiring arguments posed to your opponents basically amount to accusing them of racism. You have no ability to argue on a point by point basis. In this you are like legaleagle, who’s lost any ability to debate that he once had, resorting to ad hominem attack as a substitute for rational debate.. You’re are old and stale. I suggest that you check with your doctor for the onset of senile dementia. I would call it premature, but you are apparently in your seventies.

          • George Williams

            Anyone who wears a sign declaring their politics better be prepared to defend it, especially when BO is concerned. BO is hurting a lot of people and not everyone is acting in a civilized manner in response. I suspect that there are only a handful of people who actually belong to John Birch Society today, so calling everyone who disagrees with your brand of politics a Bircher is not only inaccurate, but confusing, as they don’t even know what you’re talking about. Chances are they are just normal, rational people who have come to know Barack Obama all too well and loathe him for his politics. And just as lefties get militant and aggressive, there are some righties that might become so. While I wouldn’t bother touching your ugly carcass, some might even take poke at your ignorant ass for slandering them, after discovering the meaning of your pejorative, your sh*t eating grin notwithstanding.

          • George Williams

            Not the anit-Christ, just a small narcissist promoted way beyond his capabilities.

            I Too Have Become Disillusioned.
            By Matt Patterson (columnist – opinion writer)

            Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, the result of a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world’s largest economy, direct the world’s most powerful military, execute the world’s most consequential job?

            Imagine a future historian examining Obama’s pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a “community organizer;” a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote “present”); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions.

            He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama’s “spiritual mentor”; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama’s colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?

            Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberal Dom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass. Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass – held to a lower standard – because of the color of his skin.

            Podhoretz continues: And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) “non-threatening,” all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest?

            Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon – affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.

            Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don’t care if these minority students fail; liberals aren’t around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self-esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin – that’s affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn’t racism, then nothing is.

            And that is what America did to Obama. True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary.

            What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks? In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama’s oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people – conservatives included – ought now to be deeply embarrassed.

            The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that’s when he has his Teleprompters in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth – it’s all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years.(An example is his 2012 campaign speeches which are almost word for word his 2008 speeches)

            And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. Remember, he wanted the job, campaigned for the task. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. (The other day he actually came out and said no one could have done anything to get our economy and country back on track.) But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?

            In short: our president is a small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office.

          • plsilverman

            not impressed. I admit Barack Obama’s “Presidential resume” was very light in 2008 but by 2012 he had accomplished a lot, in fact was already adept at doing what a President is supposed to do, compromise: he continued and implemented several Republican programs, such as the TARP and Romneycare.
            Okay, please no more posts in my direction. relax and move on.

          • George Williams

            You’re too stupid, or is that senile, to be impressed by anything. TARP was largely wasted, and Romneycare, ako, Obamacare is now the subject of ridicule by most of the country, with Clinton even admitting that it is hopelessly flawed. We still have over 7 percent unemployment, and the lowest worker participation rate in the history of the country. The scandals; Benghazigate, Fast and Furious, IRSgate and the Snoopgate are all haunting this president like no other. Obama lets over 120,000 people die in Syria, including innocent women and children, cut in half by artillery projectiles, small arms fire, grenade fragments and rocket attacks, and does nothing until 1400 people are doused with organophosphates, aka, chemical weapons. He declares a red line weeks ago and the can’t take credit for it, subsequently calling it the UN’s red line. If so, then where’s his support. He couldn’t even get support from the British, our staunchest allies. If it is the world’s red line, why can’t they step up to the plate. No, this is Obama’s red line and suddenly he’s choked with fear that taking action might result in negative consequences. The man constantly eschews responsibility for anything, the sign of a true coward. And no, this is an open forum. If you don’t want to receive counterpoints to your pathetic comments, then don’t make comments at all. You have no authority to deny me a response to your nonsensical blather. This is not the Huffpo, where censorship is practiced. You’re a coward, silverfish. Anyone who responds in detail and cogently to your pathetic reparte is dismissed and threatened by you because you are unable to give a rational response in return.

          • plsilverman

            please stop the nonsense. no more posts to me.

          • George Williams

            Sorry, jackass, no can do. I suggest that you just take your business elsewhere if you want to be rid of me.

          • plsilverman

            so “jackass”, “butthead”…..real class. But I do notice a repetition related to a certain part of my anatomy. now, now……

          • plsilverman

            ok, you insist on breaking the rules here and insulting me and insist on continuing such harassment via this medium, so must want me to get the legal help I have mentioned before – to ask you formally to stop the personal attacks. you clog up my e-mail. you embarrass the Real republicans that enjoy this site, or once did when it was not a hate site. I hope to mention this to Mr. Goldberg in a phone conversation. I won’t mention any names. I want to simply ask him to monitor his site, assuming at this time, he does not have the time, but hoping he will make the time. I think he does no want to see his site devolve into a racially obsessed, hate site.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Still trying to dictate who can respond to you, Silverman? Sad.

          • plsilverman

            Hey Mr. successful novelist: I respectfully ASKED the dude not to INITIATE posts to me…I do not want to see his posts clogging up my e-mail. Does that make sense to you, mr. fair and balanced?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Trying to dictate who responds to you in a public forum is like choosing to sit in a sauna, while whining incessantly about how hot it is.

            If you can’t play by the same rules as everyone else, don’t participate in the game. It’s that simple.

          • plsilverman

            did you cut and paste that? :) > simple answer – I occasionally politely ask some posters – posters who insist on BREAKING those “rules” – gonna repeat that – posters who insist on BREAKING those rules and personally attacking my character – to please quit clogging up my e-mail. you are a published novelist. I’m sure you know exactly what I mean but like some others, you just *have* to get insulting here.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I see… After routinely telling people they’re racists and thus attacking their character, you politely ask them to stop being mean to you in return, and thus attacking your character.

            Excellent.

          • plsilverman

            you know, sir, I have never called an individual here a “racist”. and you also know that this is now a hate site, obsessed with the behavior of African Americans. I expect to call Bernie’s New York office to ask him to monitor this site. he will see who is really breaking the rules.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Oh no… You don’t specifically call them “a racist.” You just tell them that they’re saying racist things and subscribe to a racist mindset. You tell them that they can’t take a black man being in the White House, and that THAT’s their beef with Obama.

            I see no distinction, and have no interest in playing your little semantics game that you use to escape accountability for the vile assertions you routinely toss around.

            And again, MSNBC – your favorite news source – is the most racially obsessed news outlet in the nation, so spare me your phony outrage when the columnists here respond to their (and the rest of the MSM’s) racial vitriol.

            Good luck with the “New York office” Phil. Let me know how that turns out.

          • plsilverman

            You need to stop implying that *I* am a racist. It’s a big chasm between calling an individual a racist and saying that his/her posts are racially charged in a racially obsessed environment. For the 88th time, you know very well that this site is obsessed with race, particularly with the behavior of African Americans. It’s always very critical and very negative. and you know very well that “racist” posts have been posted here. you SEEM to believe that is inconceivable. for the 88th time, I do not live by MSNBC news, another one of your flamboyant assumptions. I don’t always agree with Matthews, Maddow, and others. In fact, THEY at times have been as critical of the Obama adm. as Fox! as much as I dislike being called a “butthead” and “jackass”, etc., I don’t like being called a phony. Re. a call to Bernie’s office, I am more than capable of getting numbers, with a lot of media experience (mostly in the ’90s, ok) and a lot of contacts. I would never report to you what is said on a private conversation. as important as you obviously are. Yes, it is inconceivable that someone could call your boss, considering your importance in the wonderful world of career punditry. You come off as quite desperate, saying that if one posts on a site that someone calls a hate site a hate site, one that is racially obsessed, than ALL posters are to be considered “racists” by the general populace. I say, respectfully, put that in your next novel. make it a story of a recovered Dixiecrat who occasionally “slips back” when someone of his website calls him a “racist”.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>You need to stop implying that *I* am a racist.

            I don’t do that, Phil. You do that.

            >> It’s a big chasm between calling an individual a racist and saying that his/her posts are racially charged in a racially obsessed environment

            So when you told Bernie that he can’t take a black man being in the White House, you’re telling me that you WEREN’T implying that he is a racist?

            >>you know very well that this site is obsessed with race, particularly with the behavior of African Americans.

            What I know very well, Phil, is that you believe ANY discussion of race or racism by conservatives is “racially charged” or “racially obsessed” or whatever other term you want to use to indirectly accuse conservatives of being racists. Some of the columnists here – myself included – are fed up with people like you and your idiot idols at MSNBC obsessively attributing criticism of our president to racism. It’s people like you who are racially obsessed… not us.

            What we do in our columns is call out and discredit this deviant behavior. So I’m not surprised that it upsets you.

            >>and you know very well that “racist” posts have been posted here

            Oh, I’ve definitely seen people reply to columns on this website with comments I would deem racist. I’ve seen it from both liberals and conservatives and I don’t like it. Any time an open forum is offered on the Internet, this is one of the risks that comes with it. The same goes for trolls who throw out false charges of racism to silence opposing viewpoints. Letting people respond to our columns isn’t an endorsement of their responses.

            When posters see this sort of thing, they should tag the post to bring it to the attention of the site’s moderators.

            I’d respond to the rest of our post, but quite frankly it was completely nonsensical.

          • plsilverman

            my “idiots at MSNBC”. did not know I had that kind of clout. but than k you. I do not find Shultz or Maddow or Matthews to be idiots at all. can you imagine an open debate, no prep., no notes, between those three and the Doocey gang? who would look foolish, then?
            yes, I think Bernie’s book ONE BIG SLOBBERING is as racist as Laura Ingraham’s disgraceful THE OBAMA DIARIES. Do you think MSNBC or Huffington or Media Matters people are racist? give me one statement; name one published wok, that is racially charged. why do you keep writing to me if you are convinced I’m incapable of learning the truth that the Republicans have never erred in their history. there is no point for you to keep posting to me because you have shown that your main interest is to lump me in with the far Left and then proceed top level one insult after another. why is the productive, in our mind? you must have a lot of time to burn in between novels.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>my “idiots at MSNBC”. did not know I had that kind of clout. but than k you

            Try actually quoting me correctly.

            >>I think Bernie’s book ONE BIG SLOBBERING is as racist…

            lol. Of course you do, Phil… Because you define President Obama only by his race, and not by his policies and leadership. So when someone is critical of him, you scream racism. And that’s the mark of an MSNBC drone who couldn’t manage to come up with an independent thought if his life depended on it.

            >>Do you think MSNBC or Huffington or Media Matters people are racist?

            Did I ever claim them to be? That’s one of the many differences between us, Phil. I don’t play the race card. You, on the other hand, live by the race card.

          • George Williams

            Let’s face it, “racism” is all silverfish has as a rebuttal for everything.

          • plsilverman

            No I do not “live by the race card” and that is insulting. I worked for over 30 years with all races in an interpersonal way and applied all standards of fairness. If I live(d) by that card, I would have been OUT of a very good job. my point: it’s EASY to broadstroke people you disagree with. you say I call Bernie site people racists…I wonder if you actually think the REAL RACISTS are on the Left. that’s all we hear these days: Oh, yeah, what about the Libz!!!? It’s easy to say some one plays that card and it’s easy for anyone to say you do the same. this site is loaded with racial stuff and hate. I think I have made a few hard rightees conscious of that.>>>I “define Obama by his race”? ha! where? when? are YOU playing the proverbial card, now, pal? I think he’s doing a decent job despite unprecedented partisan opposition which I say, yes, is sometimes based upon race – those Tea Partiers who get a lot of $$$$ from the segregationist KOchs. I do factor in “race” in SOME of the criticism I’ve heard – and I believe Palin, Bachman, Gingrich, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, definitely Coulter and Ingraham have made very odious, negative statements about Obama’s history (yes, I know he apparently hung out with creeps in Chicago, before he went to the senate and his Priest is very controversial) and current actions but what is “community organizer”? it’s really code for angry young Black, isn’t it? especially when the TRuth is available: he ran a Jobs training program – I worked alongside Community Organizers for years on such projects and it takes a lot of skill and counseling ability and knowledge of government to even approach that. >>but you know all that….you appear desperate to keep serving tennis balls when I said I don’t dig your sportsmanship.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>No I do not “live by the race card”

            Keep telling yourself that, Phil. lol.

            >>I wonder if you actually think the REAL RACISTS are on the Left.

            I don’t think “real” racism is tied to political leanings at all. My grandparents used to say some of the most racist things I’ve ever heard in my life, and they were both committed Democrats. They certainly didn’t think that way BECAUSE they were Democrats. I would never blame racism on political affiliation. I believe racism is mostly generational and in some cases, regional. It has nothing to do with someone’s view on taxes, the role of government, and whether or not someone thinks President Obama is doing a good job.

            What I WILL attribute almost entirely to the left is racial condescension. Many liberals don’t think minorities are as capable as white people are of making it in life. They work hard to convince minorities that they are victims who need leftist politicians in order to make it through life.

            Most conservatives, including myself, reject that notion, and believe ANYONE can be successful with enough hard work and determination.

            And you ABSOLUTELY define Obama by his race. Anyone who can only come up with “racism” as an explanation for why people are unhappy with Obama are defining our president by his race.

            The rest of your post is nonsensical rambling.

          • plsilverman

            why do you invest so much time in my “nonsensical rambling”. by the way, I’ll take a hypocrite who gets something done for people over a pompous Republican, carping ideologue who eats bear claws at the capital instead of considering compromise on jobs bills.

          • plsilverman

            yes, I specifically said that generally…………….. :/

          • plsilverman

            Mr. published novelist/Bernie site official commentator: I do not whine here. neither am I a “jackass” or “butthead”, of which I assume you concur.. if you do not want to debate an issue then don’t break the rules here and just send insults to me to appear on the blog. what does it do 4 U? my e-mail address is: beauzee@gmail.com why not e-mail me and we debate issues, although, frankly, I’m not convinced at this point you know the issues outside of what Bill Samman provides. I get my news from sources like National Review and The Nation. I intentionally read a diverse group. sorry to disappoint you.>>>> I like Obama but I am not thrilled with his party. Howz that? :) does that calm U down?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Phil, I won’t pretend to ever understand why you choose to put me up on a pedestal and act as if I’m somehow superior to you because I enjoy writing and people read my work… but it’s time for you to knock that off and start showing a little dignity.

            Try taking some responsibility for the things you write here, and stop pretending as if you’re a victim anytime someone pushes back against your insulting assertions of them. The treatment you receive on this website is in direct response to the aspersions you routinely cast at others.

            You can dish it out, but you can’t take it. The answer isn’t to demand others to treat you with kid gloves after you insult them. The answer is for you to man up.

          • plsilverman

            I’m a “victim”? new one!!!! I mention that you as a published novelist and Goldberg choice to write commentaries, should refrain from insulting people with whom you disagree.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            New one? Phil, you play the victim card every time you claim that you’re being “harassed” on this website. It’s not harassment when you willingly come here, insult people, then whine incessantly when you’re insulted back. That’s just good old fashioned hypocrisy and victimization.

            This pedestal that you choose to place people onto in order to portray yourself as being less important in comparison, and thus earn victim-hood status, is painfully sad. Man up, Phil. The routine is old and sad.

          • plsilverman

            I do not whine and I do not insult people. If some one insults me, as you and others constantly do, then I come back with something someone might find “insulting”, but it’ s just a “come back”. Where am I a “victim”? I do not feel a victim..never have, other than perhaps when I was younger and was singled out as a “Jew” and endured a lot of pointed inquiries like “what’s all this about Christ being a Jew?”. From kids and from adults. But that’s long over. I don’t feel politically victimized. my selection for President won twice in a row. I get a lot of kudos on my 3 decade career, working for employers who requested on the job training contracts, employee recruitment, and many other services; writing and singing, guitar and piano playing, and acting. I help to raise a lot of money for Alzheimers. I like to blog on many sites , incl. this one, esp. when I get a good volley going, with a few bloggers here who do not personally attack other bloggers here (from both sides of the aisle). I don’t dig ad hominem attacks or shilling for a TV radio station. (Ok, Bernie is heavily associated with the once fair and balanced station and Bernie is your on-site boss). By the way, I find it very quaint: O’Reilly (and you, too, indirectly) constantly say Fox is number one and MSNBC is a very distant second and Huffington Post and Media Matters and Politico, and NOR are all left wing loonzs. Repeated and repeated. why? if you are that far ahead, why remind us all the time? Part of it is that for sure MSNMBC and Media Matters is very perceptive , have great fact checkers, copy writers. they always catch Fox releasing untruths, such as many by Bill (re. Obama’s cost for a trip to India, the # of times the head of the IRS went to 1600, how much the past leader of Egypt was worth; Hannity saying that 51% of taxpayers pay NO TAX and that Bin Laden was handed to Clinton on that “silver platter” – Tom Kean told him the truth on that but he kept on BSing – read THE FOX EFFECT and watch OUTFOXED!).. if MSNBC is so shallow and bad and I am one of their poster kids, why even spend two seconds on us? O’Reilly is a pretty bright dude, actually the only credentialed full-time host over there and he knows when a good team is monitoring the nonsense from Murdoch-Ailes-Sammon.

          • George Williams

            It’s because you’ve achieved something that phil could never do, be a successful writer. I read the reviews on Amazon. Only one out of 28 reviewers panned it, with three of five stars.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Thanks George. I’ve been very happy with the feedback I’ve received on the book thus far. The transition from writer to author has been a fascinating one.

          • George Williams

            You’re welcome. I will make it a point to read it, even though it might be a copy from our library on Camp Humphreys.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Thanks George! I really appreciate that. The libraries pay for their copies too, so I’m definitely being compensated either way. I hope you enjoy it!

          • George Williams

            Just what qualities do you like about Obama, SILVERFISH? Shall we discuss his positive traits, or are you afraid to? The Democrats ARE Obama. They’ve followed his lead on just about everything, and never criticize him. You should be pleased with the party of Nancy and Harry. Again, Silverfish, name ten character traits that make Obama a person to be admired as a president. I dare you. We’ll take your silence as a refusal to take the challenge.

          • George Williams

            Sorry, butthead, but you don’t get to dictate what goes on in this blog. Apparently you do this to everyone. You seem to think that you can carry on with your nonsense and intimidate anyone who responds. Why not go to the Huffpo. They love bobbleheads. You’d make a good soprano in their Greek chorus.

          • plsilverman

            “butthead”! You ARE obsessed with that part of my anatomy!…and yes, you must look up “fetish”. :)

          • George Williams

            I’m glad that you’ve finally acknowledged the fact. Does buttheadedness run in your family, silverfish?

          • plsilverman

            if I’m stupid and “senile” ( I’m surprised a classy blogger like you would resort to such a low class gutter insult) then why do you persist in communicating with me? not that there’s anything wrong with that, but I have to suggest you are emotionally involved. I *do* have a tall, curvy California girl, in my life, who takes precedent. sorry.

          • plsilverman

            ….part 2: Ayres, Wright..why not throw in Marx, Alinksy, Lenin? Affirmative Action is racist? I worked with that program as a gov’t official and all it said was that by 1967 it was time for the employers to cast the WIDEST POSSIBLE RECRUITMENT net. that is all! Did you know that it was a Republican President who gave us “QUOTAS”. That was NOT in the original program. and again, no more posts in my direction. ok? control yourself.

          • George Williams

            Yes, affirmative action is undoubtedly racist. When race becomes the basis for promotion, university enrollment or employment, that is racism. If I have two candidates for a job before me, and I choose based upon race, I am practicing racism, regardless of any SCOTUS decision that it is not. Affirmative action is government sponsored racism.

          • plsilverman

            did you work in that program? I did for about 30 years. it was never conceived that way. it was LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL – yes, with the hope that African Americans would get DUE consideration based upon Skills. sorry to disappoint you. Nixon came up with “Quotas” for races. sorry, again. it’s the truth. no more posts to me.

          • George Williams

            You don’t get the idea. This is an open blog that you don’t get to control. There’s no “no more posts to me” option. Leave the blog is you don’t wish to play the game. However way it was conceived, it didn’t turn out that way. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The fact that you were involved in it and it turned out the way it did does not speak well for you.

          • plsilverman

            I *get* all ideas and many I discard: I have said PLEASE no more posts to me. I’ve said that over the years to about 5 bloggers over many blogs. I don’t agree with anything you write, you know that, but persist in harassment. It’s an insult to Bernie and the excellent webmaster here; an embarrassment to the fair & balanced bloggers here and elsewhere, and a major time waster for me to even see on my e-mail that you initiated another post which will contain insults. I welcome ANY post to me written in a civilized, adult way. I can adjust politically when I’m shown facts contrary to the ones I’ve researched and believed. There are many, many posters here whose writing makes my skin crawl but they show respect to me as a fellow blogger. I always show respect to fellow-sister bloggers. when they appear incapable of respecting a dissenting view, I say, please don’t post to me. so calm down. have a cookie. stop the nonsense.

          • George Williams

            Most of your “facts” are sentences taken out of context, just like when you quoted O’Reilly concerning blacks being better off in Africa. People like you are disgusting hacks whose “facts” cannot stand up to the light of day.

          • plsilverman

            what was the context of that racist statement? you tell us. I watched him 5 nights a week from 1996 to about 2008. > name one fact I have mentioned which does not stand up. now *you* are doing what you accuse me of doing. if I say Obama rescued the auto industry, that can be scrutinized: oh, yeah, he did not rescue the mom and pops and the bondholders, I realize that. I also know about the over-riding issue: GM and Chrysler are back in business, and at one point (at least) GM was once again, number ONE and hiring walk-in applicants for the first time since the ’70s. I studied many internal labor analysis reports in my time. I can interpret the numbers, pal. I say Obama got BL, after having identified (in ’08) the spot he was later found…and after Bush II gave up looking (and, no, enhanced interrogation did not contribute). Is that a fact? yes, he *got* BL. [well, the SEALS really got him, blah blah blah]. You want to play prosecuting attorney and dissect statements? a good brain exercise 4 U. But not anything to prove I’m wrong. Did Obama get thru healthcare reform, 65 years I the making , utilizing GOP and Dem ideas? yes. A fact. Is it overblown, flawed? yes. should we go back to pre-AHCA, about 60% of Americans say NO. so that makes me “wrong”? cut the nonsense. if you don’t post to me then you won’t be so greatly burdened by my replies.

          • George Williams

            Neither the Bush presidents nor any president before them would have taken credit for Bin Laden as Obama has. Obama showed us only one trait of his narcissism by crowing as if he had accomplished the mission by himself. He was pathetic. Obama didn’t get health care, he was nowhere to be found in the negotiations. Harry and Nancy got that done. It would be catering to his narcissism to give him credit for that. You sycophants credit him everything under the sun. No doubt he actually believes that he did it himself. GM and Chrysler had a legal mechanism for returning to business, only the narcissist, Obama felt that only he could make it happen. His unethical cadre in the White House orchestrated a thoroughly unethical bail out, that stuck the citizens of this country with billions in potential losses if the stock value never rises. The only reason Obama bailed out big business GM and Chrysler, which he has unceasingly shown disdain for, is that it interjected the government into saving the unions interests and bought their loyalty. Only Obama’s pathetic sycophants would argue otherwise. I’ve watched O’Reilly for the past 10 years, including the conversation out of context statement. You’re a liar. You’re also deaf, dumb, blind and stupid. Sue me.

          • plsilverman

            Bush II would not have taken credit? You and so many GOP are hung up by that statement. :) Wanna go down the list of bravado statements by politicians? By the way, do you recall W. JUMPING OFF AIRFORCE ONE TO SAY “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!”. Was Obama supposed to get a Seals certificate and lead the charge before he can say his Administration was successful. “I got Bin Laden”….yeah, a crime!!!!

          • plsilverman

            I do not like being called a “liar”…another insult by you and one you would never say to my face. Why do you insist on breaking protocol here and getting all worked up over me?

          • George Williams

            Again you lie. You seem to think that you can say anything and get away with making falsehoods. You and Obama have a lot in common. Agencies of the federal government never gave up on searching for Bin Laden. Obama was the beneficiary of years efforts during the Bush administration. If he wasn’t apprehended during Obama administration, the next president would be looking for him.

            How does it feel to have worked 30 years for an agency that has never come close to winning the war on poverty? I guess we have people like you to blame for the federal government’s failure.

          • George Williams

            I have no respect for fawning sycophants of the most corrupt president in history, a man who daily discredits his office and the nation’s honor, a charlatan and communist.

          • plsilverman

            “daily”? ok, give us something to chew on. be specific. I really don’t recall you ever providng one fact, figure, scholarly quote, on ANYTHING here. let’s have it…a FIRST!>>>name one COMMUNISTIC ACTION of Obama. which implementation of a GOP program do you find Communistic? (May I suggest you are a John Birch Society member, at least in spirit? of course, we all know that ol’ JB called Ike a Commie! > was that because he federalized the national guard to intercede in Arkansas in 1957? because in his adm. we saw the 1954 civil rights [B. v B.E.] legislation?.

          • plsilverman

            I don’t mind debating with people who are not bent on insults. howz that? leave the blog? why? it’s a well-run blog and there are enough non-reactionary people here to keep my interest.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            And again… you don’t believe that accusing people of racism is an insult, do you?

          • plsilverman

            absolutely not…if I call George Wallace or Senator Byrd or Rush Limbaugh a racist, it’s not an insult because it’s about a very public figure…esp. when I can cite reams of statements which a 9th grader could identify positively as racism. > I say that Voter Suppression is racist..if U want to extrapolate that to individuals in the tea party, so be it. >>>if I am so over the top, so ridiculous; if my statements are so inconsequential,, then why are you so desperate to shut me up?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Stop playing games, Phil. You routinely accuse posters on this website of spewing racism. Do I really need to direct you back to the basketball example? How about your assertion that Bernie can’t deal with a black man in the White House? You know you do it. You’ve admitted to doing it. Own up to your own words if you ever want anyone to respect you.

          • plsilverman

            Reading Bernie’s SLOBBERING book, that’s the message I get: he is in that group which still has a hard time dealing with a young Black Man in charge. 80% of Bernie’s viewpoints involve race. I do not call him a “racist”….I think he is racially insensitive. Re. the Obama hoops event, well, how many times can I say that my post ended in a question mark and a happy-face? I believe there had been a long volley along these lines and so I kind of “slammed the lid” on the volley with the post which was a sardonic question. is that all ya got? what’s the desperation with you? Gotta say, you ARE giving me confidence that I could take over your job here if I had the means to arrange a one on one with Mr. Goldberg. :) Don’t worry so much. You have made your point: I’m the guy with the big mouth and the small intellect, right pal? :)

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            And that’s a completely asinine, totally baseless interpretation of a well-documented book that covers a national media that was squarely, and embarrassingly, in the tank for a presidential candidate during the 2008 campaign.

            Please give me an example or two from the book that led you to conclude that Bernie can’t take a black man being in the White House. I’m really interested to hear this.

            Here’s what I think: I think that you are so completely enamored with our president that you can’t possibly fathom how anyone could not think he’s God’s gift to the world. So when you hear sharp criticism of him, your narrow-mindedness and possibly a crippling sense of white guilt leads you to only one possible explanation: Racism.

            As I said before, I believe you judge Obama not by his actions, but rather by his historical significance and the color of his skin.

            Now I understand that this mindset was nudged along by the likes of Chris Matthews and Al Sharpton – guys you admire deeply, and whose ACTUAL obsession with race doesn’t seem to bother you in the slightest… but you still need to take ownership for your own ridiculous presumptuousness.

            And of all the roads you routinely travel down in your comments on this website, I must say that the most mind-boggling one is your belief that regularly portraying the site’s owner as a racist is somehow going to compel him to ask you to write columns for his website. It honestly makes me question your sheer sanity.

          • plsilverman

            I do not portray any individual as a “racist” and your continuous accusations to that end are very insulting and harassing. why are you so worked up over someone you say makes asinine statements? am I that important? you said once I had a handful of Twitter followers, so no one should take me seriously. I rarely watch more than 15 minutes of Matthews per day, maybe per week, and I like Sharpton very much – he’s not the same guy I saw back in “Brawley” days. want to play Mr. Presumptuous? fine: who are YOUR idols, man: Beck? Alex Jones? Palin? Hannity? Cavuto? Coulter? Ingraham (ever read her OBAMA DIARIES book?)………………why can’t you calm down. You say I’m in Love with Obama? I say YOU are in Love with Reagan. a wash. although I’m not in Love with Obama: I like what he has accomplished against impossible odds and YES, a lot of racism from segregationists across the land. you think the Kochs, whose Dad was a founding member of the JB Society are not against Civil Rights and Voter Rights Legislation?>>>If Mr. Goldberg is reading these blogs and has asked you to come after me with both boxing gloves loaded, fine…if he’s worried that his site is now a hate site, just maybe he wants to know what writers like me are thinking. so you use words like “asinine”, “question my sheer sanity”, etc. why do you violate the netiquette of the site you officially write for? got answer to that, pal? The once called mainstream media has always leaned Left. and guess what? they chased after Clinton and Gary Hart and the rest of the Lefties who chased women. AND they LOVED the Gipper because he was telegenic and funny. Now..they are against going into Syria which Obama wants to do…or at least feels compelled to do, in a limited way. Since the Internet that MSM is nothing but a scapegoat for extreme righty career pseudo pundits. so calm down..if I’m not important and have the mental problems you imply that I have. Unless you are the hugely important pundit who has the intellectual remedy to admiring Barack Obama. ( do U think he was born outside the United States and is not of the religion he has he is?).

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>I do not portray any individual as a “racist”
            Please. No one can be this self-unaware.

            >>why are you so worked up
            And I’m “worked up” because I’m “fed up” with all of the shameless individuals who cry “racism” anytime someone says something they don’t like. It stokes racial tension and it trivializes ACTUAL racism.

            >>am I that important?
            No. You’re merely an example of a societal problem.

            >>you said once I had a handful of Twitter
            followers
            I did?

            >> who are YOUR idols, man:
            Alex Jones? Sharon Angle? Are f’n you kidding me?

            The people whose commentary I put stock in are Charles Krauthammer, Brit Hume, Bernie Goldberg, Stephen Hayes, Tammy Bruce, and Jonah Goldberg among others. Dennis Miller and Greg Gutfeld are great at pointing out the absurdities of modern-day liberalism.

            >>You say I’m in Love with Obama? I say YOU are in Love with Reagan. a wash.
            lol. Yeah, because I spend all of my time on liberal websites, trolling the work of liberal columnists who are critical of Reagan.

            >>I like what he has accomplished against impossible odds and YES, a lot of racism from segregationists across the land.
            Pure fantasy.

            >>If Mr. Goldberg is reading these blogs and has asked you to come after me with both boxing gloves loaded, fine…
            Yes Phil. It’s a conspiracy.

            And as usual, the last half of your post was completely nonsensical.

          • plsilverman

            now I’m a “conspiracy nut”? thank you! …you read Jonah Goldberg? so do I, for about 2 paragraphs….what an RNC parrot puppet. he is awful. Krauthammer is a terrific writer…but a stone cold Obama-basher and he knows it. I have good reason to believe he read one of my Letters to the Editor for the Orange County Register (a very Conservative paper) and he and Bill discussed the content. I was a star for 15 seconds. I said he’s more worried about style than substance with Obama. I then wrote, I bet Reagan kept his suit jacket on while he decided to send 241 Marines into Beirut…so style is not as important as actions.>>>>wanna discuss the Reagan list of failure? I’m game. I can also recognize his successes.

          • plsilverman

            guess what? all “games” have rules…such as don’t do personal attacks. if YOU don’t want to play here, then YOU split.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I always find it fascinating, Phil, how you believe that accusing people of oozing with racism doesn’t equate to a personal attack.

          • plsilverman

            accusing WHO? someone who makes a racist post is not necessarily a racist, so I always always say that I read a racist POST, not that I read something by a RACIST. is that ok? :) >>>> if I call George Wallace (the GW of 1962) a racist, does that make me a racist? just a little “exercise” here…(we know the GOP technique of vilifying the one who reports a racially charged post).

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>someone who makes a racist post is not necessarily a racist, so I always always say that I read a racist POST, not that I read something by a RACIST. is that ok?

            No. It’s not okay. It’s idiotic. That’s like saying, “Yeah, I accused you of murdering someone, but that doesn’t mean I called you a murderer.”

            Your little tap-dance to try and escape accountability for your own words is sad, man. Own up to the things you type.

          • George Williams

            The sad thing is, silverfish, you have no criticisms of Bernie’s articles worth listening to, yet your persist in hanging around as if this was the pathetic HuffPo or WaPo.

          • George Williams

            I’ve worked for the federal government for over 30 years. The results of the level playing field as you call it is corruption and low quality work from businesses that were chosen as contractors based more on the race of the owner than the benefit they could provide to the government. People like you working on such programs is the reason why the government procurement system is so screwed up.

          • plsilverman

            corruption? sure….delivering an on the jobs training contract to a small to medium employer who trains an individual for 8 weeks then hires him/her – who stays with the company and moves up the ranks. very corrupt.. more tax dollars returned to the tax base than what was delivered to the program. very corrupt. why not privatize the entire country? “people like you” is another insult. :) by the way, pal, I worked on a lot of “programs” – I helped to place professional-managerial-technical people into good paying jobs which were not advertised for. very corrupt. if employers were so tax conscious, why did they keep calling me. further, if a worker was poor, after 2-3 weeks, the contract was terminated. we also checked to see that the worker did not start the job before the contract was signed. very corrupt. why are you so emotionally worked up over my posts? calm down. have a nice lemon cookie.

        • George Williams

          You’re right Drew, silverfish is just a very, very small man who is easily impressed by people who are just one level of smallness above his.

    • plsilverman

      she’s the “worst”? who was Secretary Of State when Reagan sent 241 Marines into Beirut and when Bush II allowed Cheney to play Commander In Chief?

      • George Williams

        I’ll give her credit, she’s would make a better contributor to Baedekers than any Secretary in history.

  • Barancy Peloma

    yes, the woman goldberg quotes is correct. the media will be playing the whole historical history gig all over again. time for more social justice etc.
    like obama, you too can expect the same lopsided amount of articles that are little more than promotional propaganda pieces for her while her opponent gets challenged on a daily basis.
    now that they had berry, they want someone else to get the limelight so they can continue to feel good about themselves.

    • plsilverman

      the media? the Internet? what? no more MSM.

  • ph16

    Honestly, after this discussion, I wish legaleagle, Wil (Thought he was already gone) and psilverman would leave this board. They are obviously unwanted here.

    • plsilverman

      really? did you pay for your “membership”? give me 2-3 examples where you believe I am very wrong, provide a cite or two, and I’ll read the post. I can back up everything I write but when I write something against the ALEC/Newscorp. grain, someone here calls me a “idiot” and there’s no discussion. why? if I’m that reprehensible to you, why do you waste taste trying to educate me? I keep waiting for one solid fact, figure, graph, percentage..and nothing. Just insults. AND from published commentators.

    • legal eagle

      Great to see your tolerance for people you don’t agree with….Typical bitter old man…

      • Drew Page

        I have as much tolerance for you as you do of conservatives.

        • legal eagle

          I didn’t wish that people I agree with “leave the board” as did ph16…

      • George Williams

        This ignorant and blissful jackass calls everyone who opposes Obummer a bitter old ma, though it is interesting that this president has generated a great number of bitter young people as his hope and change has turned out to be just more of the same hack politics of old.

        • legal eagle

          You are a bitter old racist hater…I’m just stating a fact….Go watch some heaters on Fox News….and keep repeating 4 dead in Benghazi..

          • George Williams

            It’s funny how the left can forgive even negligence that gets people killed when it’s for the sake of their party. Someday Obama and Hillary will answer for Benghazi. History will not look favorably on his presidency because of that, and many other criminal acts by his administration. You have all the compassion of a die hard communist. Why bother watch Fox when I can listen to you, you old Marxist puke.

  • Wil

    Hey Bernie, Any outrage about this?

    Tea Party agenda in Watauga
    County, NC:

    1 . Eliminate the Appalachian State University (ASU) early one-stop voting
    site.
    2. Force all early voting into one location hard to access by students,
    faculty, and staff at ASU.
    3. Outlaw any verbal public comment at Board
    meetings and require that written comments be screened to ensure they were
    “pertinent” and communicated without cussing or libel.
    4. Require that the
    27-year Elections Board Director, a woman totally on the straight up and beloved
    by the entire county, not be allowed to meet with anyone in her office without
    supervision.
    5. Mandate that anyone calling into the local BOE office have
    their names recorded.
    6. Move the “New River” precinct (a heavily populated
    precinct in and around the town of Boone) out into the very corner of the
    precinct into a virtually unknown location and as far away from municipal voters
    as possible.
    7. Combine three Boone precincts into one Super Precinct consisting of
    9,300 voters and 35 parking spaces. Oh. And away as far as possible from
    ASU.

    • John Daly

      Is this a general discussion message board now?

      • Wil

        Just some fodder for Bernie’s outrages. Voter suppression in NC. I wonder, if he will take it on?

  • Wil

    Texas Turning Paved Roads to Gravel

    Steve Benen, MaddowBlog: The sharp increase in heavy traffic from a historic oil boom has damaged many farm-to-market roads in South and East Texas. The damage related to energy development has become so extensive that state and local authorities lack the funding to make all the repairs. Last month, the Texas Department of Transportation announced plans to convert more than 80 miles of paved roads to gravel.

    • John Daly

      MaddowBlog? I’m sure both sides of that random story are represented fairly. lol.

      • Wil

        Texas Turning Paved Roads to Gravel…

        “nuff said!

        • John Daly

          Nuff said? They’ve also experienced the biggest post-recession economic boom in the country, second only to North Dakota. People are moving there in scores to find jobs, and the best complaint you can come up with is the state of some of their paved roads?

          Let’s try putting things in perspective, okay?

          • Wil

            Yes, Riding the wave of the Obama economy. Thanks for playing.

          • John Daly

            lol. I love it. The states that rejected the Obama agenda more defiantly than any others, and succeeded hugely because of it, now have him to THANK for their success.

            Keep toting the DNC talking points, Wil. Your a loyal trooper for sure.

          • Wil

            The national economy affect all the states. But, you already, know that, but you must degrade our president and not give him credit for anything. That is what you troglodytes do! How sad!

          • John Daly

            Yes, the national economy affects our 50 states, and our country is experiencing the worst economic recovery in our nation’s history under President Obama. The states that are vastly outperforming the others have gone in the opposite direction Obama’s economic policies, as best they can.

            Though state power is rapidly dwindling, states still have a say in how their economy works, and if you want to compare how Democratic-run states are fairing against Republican-run states, check out the stats I cited in a column I wrote a few months back:
            http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/americans-turned-off-by-the-gop-but-moving-to-their-states-in-droves/

          • Wil

            All due to the mess Bush jr. left when his term expired. That is a fact!

          • John Daly

            lol. It’s really not. When a company hires a new CEO to fix their problems, that person doesn’t just get to just keep blaming the old CEO when the problems keep getting worse. It’s HIS job to FIX those problems.

          • legal eagle

            You’re right..Obama is a CEO with a board of directors that refuses to approve 90% of his agenda…
            As usual, an absurd analogy from John Daly…

          • John Daly

            lol. Obama had two years of unrestrained power and his party still holds the U.S. Senate. That’s fewer political obstacles than most presidents have had to contend with throughout our history, including the ones ushered in strong economic growth after deep recessions.

            What you offered is an absolutely pathetic excuse, especially when the president had never made a serious attempt to work with Republicans.

          • legal eagle

            Factually incorrect….but screw the facts…

          • John Daly

            What’s factually incorrect about it? Or is that just your default response when you can’t debate a point?

          • legal eagle

            Dems had 60 votes in the Senate for approximately 6 months from July 2009 through Feb 2010 and that was mitigated by the continued absences of Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy…I’m not sure what two years you are referring to?

          • John Daly

            What are you talking about? The Dems held majorities in both the Senate and House from January of 2009 to January of 2011. A fact-based guy like you should have already known that.

          • legal eagle

            The Dems held majorities …The Senate requires 60 votes to overcome never Republican filibusters which is what you are referring to…I assume you understand this?

          • John Daly

            Oh, I see. So it’s not enough to have control of the presidency, Senate, and House – a scenario so powerful that the government was able to use it to take over 1/5 of the U.S. economy with the passage of Obamacare on a party-line vote. No, if the Republicans can filibuster, which is only the case on certain types of bills (being a fact-based guy, you obviously know that), none of it is of significance.

            Amazing.

          • legal eagle

            That’s the way the Senate works…but you know that…

          • John Daly

            Why weren’t the Republicans able to stop Obamacare, legal eagle?

          • legal eagle

            Because the bill was structured as a tax bill which only needs 51 votes in the Senate. Bush used the same tactic to avoid a Dem filibuster to pass his tax cut…

          • legal eagle

            Google the term “Senate Reconciliation”…If it’s not too difficult or time consuming…

          • legal eagle

            So move to Texas…They have an economic boom? Low wages, highest number of uninsured in the country, worst big city traffic etc…Great place to live if you don’t care whether you work for minimum wage…

          • John Daly

            lol @ the big city traffic comment. Please.

            Yes, Texas’ economy has fared FAR better than the rest of the nation. They are kicking practically every other state’s butts. Scores of people ARE moving there, and many are happy to take jobs with low wages because their cost of living, throughout most of Texas, is also lower.

            Your argument is like going up to a person offering food to starving people and complaining that their silverware is dirty. It’s ridiculous.

          • legal eagle

            Same argument used to justify slavery by the South….I’ve lived in Texas…too hot and too many guns…be my guest..I’ll stay in Southern Cal…

          • John Daly

            >>Same argument used to justify slavery by the South

            You’re punch-drunk. Give yourself a rest.

    • Drew Page

      Last I heard, Texas wasn’t going bankrupt. People weren’t moving out of Texas to find jobs, in fact, they were moving from other places like California, to Texas. Unlike many other states, Texas doesn’t have toll roads; they have freeways. Name the farms and/or markets that have been put out of business because of ‘damaged’ roads.

      • Wil

        Texas has a 25 billion dollar debt!

        • Tim Ned

          They have debt just like most other states. The difference is they have a balanced budget, growing revenues, and a game plan. Amazing based upon the fact that the TX legislature only meets every two years. Perhaps the answer is to keep the politicians out of the capital is the answer.

          Why is it that the liberals need to seek and destroy any issue that is successful but goes against their ideology?

          • John Daly

            Plus, when did liberals start caring about debt in the first place?

          • Wil

            Just after Bush jr. left office.

          • John Daly

            Wrong. That’s when they stopped PRETENDING to care.

          • Wil

            Does the debt left by Bush jr. matter? Remember, we also, have to pay it too.

          • John Daly

            Oh, it absolutely does. Bush spent too much – not nearly as much as Obama has, but certainly too much. That doesn’t absolve the current president from sending us right into the abyss.

          • legal eagle

            The difference is that when the debt rose from 2001-2009 Conservatives looked the other way. As hypocrisy goes this is just run of the mill stuff for Conservatives…

          • John Daly

            The difference was also a booming economy compared to an anemic one, and $4.8 trillion from Bush compared to President Obama’s projection of more than doubling that by the time he leaves office.

            Bush spent too much, but if pinning our debt problems solely on him is like blaming the kid who played with matches, and not the kid who burned down a house.

          • Wil

            Our country will be paying for Bush’s mistakes, for decades!

          • John Daly

            But not Obama’s, right?

          • Wil

            Right! BTW, what are Obama’s mistakes? Please explain.

          • John Daly

            I’ll let someone else waste their time with you. For a minute, I thought you were serious about having a productive conversation. Clearly you’re not. I should have known better.

          • Wil

            *Crickets*

          • legal eagle

            Not to be to picky but why do we have to pay the debt? I understand that your statement is political but its not economically accurate….

          • John Daly

            Oh my effing…

            Well there you go folks… a summary of exactly why the country is so completely screwed.

            Lawyers DO have to take at least some basic economics classes at some point, right?

          • Wil

            Explain?

          • legal eagle

            Debt has to be serviced not repaid unless creditors demand repayment and there is no one else to buy the debt…Practically speaking U.S. debt is the world’s strongest and safest and therefore repayment is not an issue…The potential issue is that as interest rates rise servicing the debt gets more expensive…
            You can ignore John Daly as he knows zero about finance other than regurgitating right wing talking points…

          • John Daly

            First of all, I have a four-year degree in business administration, so spare me your presumptive b.s, lawyer-boy.

            Secondly, the idea that our national debt is meaningless and doesn’t have to be repaid is asinine. That’s like some idiot teenager trying to explain to a friend why everything he puts on his credit card is ‘free.’

            A major portion of the national debt is owed to citizens of the United States through bonds, t-bills, and money spent through future taxation.

            If the U.S. government doesn’t pay up, then massive amounts of American investment goes straight down the toilet. On an enormous scale, people’s life-savings will disappear, and the economy will implode. You’re apparently fine with that.

            The more debt we add, the less the U.S. dollar is worth as well, causing all imported goods (including oil) to be far more expensive than they otherwise would be. You’re apparently fine with that.

            Rising interest rates on a debt as big as ours could be absolutely catastrophic to our economy, as you’ve already eluded to, but are apparently fine with, as well.

            This doesn’t even factor in foreign creditors like China if they decide to demand repayment (not likely, but a horrific possibility).

            We all know that the United States will never be ‘debt free’, but the debt as a percentage our GDP is absolutely staggering and extremely dangerous for a variety of reasons I could write an entire column about.

          • legal eagle

            So you respond by changing the subject….I said that the debt does not have to REPAID but it does have to be rolled over. I didn’t say the debt was MEANINGLESS.
            The debt is a factor in the value of the dollar not THE FACTOR in the value of the dollar. Comparative interest rates, political stability and Fed action are also factors in the value of the dollar.
            “If the U.S. government doesn’t pay up…” is 99.999% impossible as the Fed has the ability to step in to the market , as they are currently doing…
            So, tell me what I said that is incorrect?

          • John Daly

            >>So you respond by changing the subject….I said that the debt does not have to REPAID

            Completely??? As in 100%? No. Was that seriously your argument? If so, it’s a pointless one.

            A manageable debt can be maintained if the size of our economy is strong enough in proportion. In other words, IF we’re capable of paying off the debt. The problem is that THOSE DAYS ARE GONE. Our economy can’t keep up with the amount of debt we’re accruing. It’s become completely unmanageable. We’re paying a heavy price for that, and we’ll pay an even heavier, epic price in the future.

          • Tim Ned

            Amazing, my wife and I just cashed in federal bonds that just matured! That were purchased several years ago.

          • legal eagle

            See how easy that was….LOL

          • Tim Ned

            Yes, the government is forced to pay their debt! To place value on their loans they must be capable of paying when due.

          • Wil

            >First of all, I have a four-year degree in business<

            And, you write 'fiction' for a living. How sad!

          • John Daly

            I don’t write for a living, Wil. And why would it be ‘sad’ if I did?

            I’m a software/web development contractor, and I also run an importing business on the side. Thus, I’m very familiar with how the national debt affects the value of our dollar because it directly determines how much merchandise I can afford to import for re-sale.

            But you don’t have to have majored business to understand such things. You just have to be able to read.

          • Wil

            What software/web development do you do, and what do you import.

          • John Daly

            Why do you care? What do you do for a living?

          • legal eagle

            Perhaps economics or accounting would have been more helpful in discussing this subject than Business Administration?

          • Wil

            Okay, I feel better now. Lol

          • Drew Page

            Now you are showing your true colors. “We” don’t have to pay the debt. Our children, grandchildren and their kids will have to pay it. that is economically accurate, but you don’t give a shit.

        • Drew Page

          They are paying their bills and don’t have their hand out to the federal government begging for a bailout. Your president has managed to run up the federal debt by $5 trillion in five years. Now there’s a tradition you can be proud of, but I’m not.

          • Wil

            Yes, we will pay for Bush’s mistakes for years! BTW, Are you aware of how much federal government money, Texas gets?

          • George Williams

            What a laugh. Bush is a piker when compared to the trillions of dollars that Obama is racking up in the National Debt. Wars can be paid off in rather short order when terminated. New entitlements last forever. Every year since Obama has taken office has resulted in an incredible increase in the cost of programs whose costs aren’t controllable by the congressional budget process. The housing bubble was caused mainly by the Democrats ambitions to put everyone in a house of their own, regardless of their ability to pay. Their social engineering and bullying of banks put pressure on banks to lend and created opportunities for corrupt lenders to create new dubious financial instruments. Clearly it was the attempt on the part of the Democrats to generate cheap money for lending that was the seed for the financial crisis. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and it was the Democrats who were at the helm of the asphalt layer.

          • Wil

            George, It’s going to take decades to correct the mess Bush left our country!

          • George Williams

            I’ve got news for you, at the rate that the National Debt is being accumulated by the Obama administration, the interest alone will force tax rates that will take much of the ordinary citizen’s income. It will reach a point where all our discretionary treasury funds will be used to pay off the debt. The National Debt will never be paid off at the rate that Obama is accumulating it. The rate of growth of the economy may never produce the revenue required to do so. Keep believing your messiah. God save us from you Obama sycophants.

          • Wil

            Again, It’s going to take decades to correct the mess Bush left our country!

          • George Williams

            And the U.S. may never recover from the mess that Obama has made.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Under Obama’s policies, absolutely. Under someone who knows what he or she is doing, no.

          • George Williams

            You have the Democratic propaganda down well. You make Obama all tingly with joy. Got it. Bush bad; Democrats good. Too bad that you have no understanding of that which you speak.

          • Wil

            You know, we also have to pay the 10+trllion debt, that Reagan & the Bush’s left our country too.

          • Wil

            We will be paying for Bush’s two wars (Based on lies) for decades.

          • George Williams

            Just what were Bush’s mistakes?

          • Wil

            I’m done with you, George!

          • George Williams

            How fickle. And you told me that your love would be never ending…. snif, snif. The truth is that your case against bush is just as empty as John Kerry’s mythical international support for attacking Syria.

  • Drew Page

    “I’m ready for Hillary”, does that mean “I’m sick of Obama”?
    I hope they flood the air waves with Hillary campaign crap fro today through 2015.. Hopefully people will be so sick of hearing about her she will be old news by 2016.

    • Wil

      What are you so unhappy about. After the Bush debacle, you should be elated Obama is our president!

      • legal eagle

        Bush debacle? Republicans are still denying the Nixon debacle…

        • Wil

          And, the Reagan debacle. Lol

          • legal eagle

            Iranians are still probably using some of the weapons Reagan gave them in the 80′s…

          • Wil

            Reagan convinced many Americans, to hate our government.

  • K.G.

    The DOE is controlled by the liberal establishment and accomplished their goal of dummying down the students. Plus they preach that the government should protect them from cradle to the grave. Our younger generation know nothing of the country they are giving away. I thank God I knew what the country was like.
    Anyone that was born in the 30′s, 40′s and 50′s know what I mean.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS.

    • legal eagle

      Those were the days….Thanks Archie Bunker…

  • Gloria

    Amen again, Bernie. Another perfectly written article…..and oh so sad, but true. It almost doesn’t seem worth the while to bother to try to fight it, huh? I know that I have become disheartened, and almost – almost disinterested. It feels rather hopeless. All she has to do is stay healthy and show up. The crown is hers. What’s a voter to do??

    • legal eagle

      What’s a voter to do? Vote in your own self interest….If you don’t know what that is check your Social Security and Medicare benefits…

  • FloridaJim

    The Clinton’s have done little other than enriching themselves since bill left office under a cloud, there is always a cloud over Clinton it seems. Hillary has been as big as bust at Sec. of State as Obama has been as President. The women of the 60′s those who use abortion as birth control, Hillary’s army as it were, will be out in force and have their offspring touting Hillary as well It looks ominous to me but I will pray that the world ends prior to avoid the Clinton’s.

    • legal eagle

      I believe a call to Dr. Kevorkian would answer your prayers….

  • Lc Goodfellow

    Bumper Stickers,
    You want to look for them,
    ” Monica Lewinsky’s X-Boyfriend’s Wife for President 2016 ”

    I have a black President that has wasted what could have been the historic moment in the years of this country

    • legal eagle

      What is the historic moment you are referring to? Turning bitter old white guys into reasonable human beings?

      • Jeff Webb

        What historic moment? Well, referencing Dr. King, that a black man be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.
        If BO had at some point in his life actually grown up and developed any sense of ethics, well…

        • legal eagle

          Dr. King was hoping the day would come when “all men would be judged….”
          You are questioning Obama’s sense of ethics? Amazing how presumptive you are?
          Hopefully you don’t make a living doing business with only people you consider ethical enough for your hish standards…

          • John Daly

            >>You are questioning Obama’s sense of ethics?

            Was that a serious question?

          • legal eagle

            I’m very serious. You must be under the illusion that you’re a right wing talk show host….Is that your “topic on the table”…Obama is unethical…What do you think listeners…Call in right now with your opinion at 1-800-Bernie..
            What’s tomorrows topic?…Is Obama gay? Should Obama be impeached for playing cards in the White House? Is Obama a Communist?
            If you made a statement like that in Court , opposing counsel would object and ask you for an “offer of proof”…

          • John Daly

            Oh brother. All you have to do is consider how many lies this man has told about Obamacare and Benghazi alone, and you’ve identified an enormous ethics problem.

            Too complicated for you? I know you don’t like to research stuff.

            How about something very simple: Our president refused to denounce an ad his own SuperPac created that accused Mitt Romney of being responsible for a woman’s cancer-death.

            You don’t seen any sort of questionable ethics practice there?

            Obama is far from the only politician with serious ethics problems. Many from both sides of the political spectrum have them.

          • legal eagle

            So everyone who tells a “lie” is unethical? If everyone who tells a “lie” is ethically challenged, as you assert, then I guess 99.999% of the human race is unethical?

          • John Daly

            If you’re an elected official, and that lie affects 1/5 of our national economy, or is done to cover-up how people were murdered, YES.

            If you’re affirming that someone looks good in an outfit they’re trying on, when they really don’t, NO.

          • legal eagle

            You got me…Obama’s a liar but the Bushes, Reagan and Nixon weren’t….In fact Obama is the first President to lie…How do you come up with such brilliance?

          • John Daly

            Me: “Obama is far from the only politician with serious ethics problems. Many from both sides of the political spectrum have them.”

            You: “You got me…Obama’s a liar but the Bushes, Reagan and Nixon weren’t….In fact Obama is the first President to lie…How do you come up with such brilliance?”

            Yet another example of you making up a straw-man argument and pretending it was put forth by someone else. Do you have any interest at all in being taken seriously?

          • legal eagle

            Either you are highly naïve or playing dumb…Lying and ethics are two different subjects…If you cant figure out the difference perhaps you should go discuss it with a member of the clergy….

          • John Daly

            Nice that you ignored being called out on your own lie there, legal. Try owning up to the things you write every now and then.

            And this may be one of the dumbest arguments you’ve posted here… well at least in the past 24 hours or so.

            If you don’t consider a U.S. president lying to Americans about Obamacare and Benghazi (especially when it was for purely political purposes) to be examples of unethical behavior, you have no sense of personal ethics in the first place.

            Not that I’m surprised.

  • Chuck_Borealis

    Sarah Palin will be called a sexist pig for not supporting the Queen H, just like Herman Cain is a racist for not supporting King O.

    • legal eagle

      Sarah Palin is not a sexist pig…She’s just an ignorant housewife…

    • plsilverman

      Yes, a John Birther brain must always support his own ethnic group, regardless of philosophy.

      • John Daly

        Who’s John Birther?

        • plsilverman

          ..just a Freudian slip. why are you still initiating posts to me? ok, ok..>>>>it was supposed to beJohn Bircher but “Birther” isn’t far outside THAT chemistry, is it? :)

  • Dave W

    Bernie, I don’t disagree with your points but I would add that the importance of the Republican Party being on the wrong side of women’s rights and gay rights, not having support from blacks, Hispanics, non-Christians, immigrants, young people, academics, environmentalists and poor people (all of which are increasing in number of voters) and are perceived as being the party of old, white, Christian business men who acting as obstructionist to the Obama administration. They will not get elected again unless they nominate a superman/superwoman who can capture the independent vote.

    • legal eagle

      Like Pat Nixon?

  • BARJANDOR

    Hillary Clinton will be the nominee so long as there isn’t another Obama in the wings. It mattered not that Bill Clinton had headquartered himself in Harlem following his eight years in the White House. Anybody think that wasn’t strategically planned to benefit Hillary in 2008? But even that didn’t get her the nod. The PCs within the Democratic Party and the media would drop her like a ton of bricks, which they did in 2008, lest they be depicted as racist.
    If she does become the nominee and then President, which she was robbed of in 2008 by her own Party, we can look forward to four or eight years of the media taking aim at anyone who doesn’t agree with her way of governing, by calling them sexist! It’s simply a matter of replacing one word with another.

    • legal eagle

      How about that Bill Clinton hanging out with those colored folks in Harlem? Outrageous

      • John Daly

        Colored folks? Is that how you refer to black people? You’re revealing a lot about yourself in your comments in this column, man. I’m not sure you should be teasing others about being Archie Bunker.

        • legal eagle

          I’ve been criticized by some on this blog for using LOL too much so you’ll have to figure out yourself whether I’m being sarcastic or not..

  • Seattle Sam

    There seems to be a sloppy use of the term “low information voter” here. These are not necessarily stupid people who are unable to comprehend and digest information (though I suspect there would be a below average profile on those counts). These are people who, for various reasons, do not choose to gather information, make empirical observations and form fact-based judgments. Perhaps it bores them. Perhaps it’s too much work. Perhaps they think it’s not consequential. The point about them, though, is that you are NOT going to reach them by shouting more facts or turning up the volume at which you shout. Your only chance is to reach them on THEIR terms. Provide them some visceral, emotional reason to agree with you. That’s why they still like Obama. He is, to them, like a character in a reality show called Politics. You either like or dislike those characters based on your perception of their personalities. Whether they are cool or dweebs. They can spout nonsense every day, do nothing substantive and still be liked — at least until another more likeable character is introduced on the show.

    • Stimpy

      You are too kind. They are actually downright stupid. We’re all doomed.

    • nickshaw

      “These are people who, for various reasons, do not choose to gather
      information, make empirical observations and form fact-based judgments.
      Perhaps it bores them.”
      Isn’t that the very definition of a LIV?
      How is it “sloppy”?
      But, you are right. These days it comes down to “shiny object” politics.
      That’s why I’d really like to see Gary Sinise get in the race.

    • plsilverman

      care to identify some of them? :) also, tell us your research methodology.

  • Republicanturnedlibertarian

    Bernie, you use Mitt Romney’s loss to illustrate the folly of ideological purity?! Come on. The Republican party has become the party of losers because they don’t clearly contrast and differentiate themselves from the competition. The last time the Republicans had a winning attitude was during the 2010 mid-terms, and that came from the Tea Party. Since then, the Republicans have been playing prevent defense (i.e., losing).

  • Shane

    Shillary has a lot of skeletons in her closet and there are a lot of people who do not like or trust her. The GOP Presidential candidate should bash her again and again about the Benghazi fiasco and her infamous line – “What difference does it make?”

    • allen goldberg

      That should be the motto of the next conservative candidates. And it should be chanted, printed, over and over again and if possible shouted at her wherever she goes.

    • legal eagle

      Oh those GOP stalwarts like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio? What was wrong with her “infamous line”?

  • Sky Citizen

    Yes Bernie, the cards seem stacked against the Republicans when you consider the low information voter and the slobbering press. Its not to soon to start calling Obamacare Hillarycare as she is the mother of this mess. There will be the debates which as long as her opponent doesn’t do something stupid and make her a victim she will surely lose. And then is the unanswered question of how enthusiastic male and female low information voters are for a female president. I think the press and the Democrats have a lot of work ahead of them in maintaining a schlub as a viable candidate, however its been done before.

  • legal eagle

    It would appear that Republicans have overcome MSM bias, low information voters, bad Republican candidates and tea party apathy……How much victimization can Conservatives take?……GET OVER IT….

    • John Daly

      >> It would appear that Republicans have overcome MSM bias

      It would appear that you’re high.

      • legal eagle

        Couldn’t tell by the amount of whiners on this site….Haven’t heard this much victimization since my days in the criminal law business…..LOL

        • Montana Made

          and by your days “in the criminal law system” you mean you were an inmate, right?

          • John Daly

            Ha!

          • KAG505

            legal eagle is a Gloria allred wannabe ambulance chaser

          • legal eagle

            No ..I dealt with morons like you who claimed that they were victims of this and that….

  • nkqx57a

    Mr. Goldberg…you are correct, it was the low information voter that wrong elections in 2008 and 2012. Maybe we need to do a better job of informing them. How about…

    Vince Foster, Connie Hamzy, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, The Rose Law firm, James Mc Dougal, Ron Brown, Monica Lewinsky, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, and now Benghazi and Huma!

    Some quotes by Hillary:

    “Voting is the most precious right of every citizen, and we have a moral obligation to ensure the integrity of our voting process.”

    “The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they’re not.”

    “In almost every profession – whether it’s law or journalism, finance or medicine or academia or running a small business – people rely on confidential communications to do their jobs. We count on the space of trust that confidentiality provides. When someone breaches that trust, we are all worse off for it.”

    “Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right.”

    • legal eagle

      Does that mean you are a “high information” voter? What a bunch of nonsense….Another excuse why Republicans cant win a national election..

      • John Daly

        I love watching someone so completely enamored with a term that’s been thrown around widely in the media for a couple of years now. It’s kinda cute.

        It’s like when Bill Maher finally realized after the 2012 election that he’s being taxed too much. lol.

        • nickshaw

          You have to give them time. Most of them are slow.

          • plsilverman

            except for the ones who advance Bush II programs.

    • nickshaw

      She’s tired of liars but, lands under enemy fire in Bosnia and blames a video in Benghazi..
      That will make a good ad

      • plsilverman

        aw, cute! ever hear of Salman Rushti?…shucks, just maybe a video CDOULD ignite such a flame……..hmm

        • John Daly

          But the video DIDN’T cause the Benghazi attack, which Hillary knew full well when she told the families of the Benghazi victims that it did. This is a fact… not a theory. The established timeline and congressional testimony over what was known and when clearly shows that she lied.

          Why is this kind of thing not important at all to the left?

        • Jeff Webb

          Who’s Salman Rushti? Some guy who made a video that actually did inspire riots? Was he ever told that his name sounds kind of like Salman Rushdie’s?
          Look, you made your “point” long ago, which was unnecessary; after all, we’ve seen Islamojerks get violent over cartoons, in case you never heard about that.
          This was a galactic failure by incompetent liars. You seem to think your strawman will change that.

      • John Daly

        That comment really was remarkable. Had a Republican made up such a tale, we’d STILL be hearing about it from late night comedians.

    • plsilverman

      also including: Gingrich, Palin, Bachman, West, Walker, Santorum, Ryan, the Pauls…what the heck, I’ll toss in Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Jerome Corsi, Alex Jones, O’Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Gaffney,Gutfeld, Beck, Cruz, Tancredo………..

  • alegalcitizen

    She’s obama in a pant suit, the health care bill would passed with her, remember she was pushing for one when billy bob was president, not only that but the illegals would ALREADY be known as “fellow citizens”, she wouldn’t have wasted all that time the controlled EVERYTHING!

    • legal eagle

      And the Republican solution to the health care problem is what? Ignore it? What’s your solution? None because you have healthcare?

      • Montana Made

        Would have been to NOT create a monstrosity that will disable an entire nation! The problem was cost containment- not the healthcare industry. We already know the biggest offenders are those that are uninsured- so that’s where the focus needed to be- NOT to the entire system.

        This was an end run to gain more control- not to fix anything.

      • nickshaw

        Remedies were and are still being put forth. You just choose to ignore them.

        • plsilverman

          NO remedies are being advanced by the GOP other than AHCA adjustments which the President has SIGNED. There is NO GOP Healthcare plan at this time. They have no interest in offending their campaign donors, the insurers. (Yes, I know the Left has *its* benefactors).

      • alegalcitizen

        Why YES I do, but it’s because I’m on SS and Medicare that I pay 100 plus per month, and hubby pays 100 plus per month, then we have to have a supplement that WE pay over 330 per month. We have paid into Medicare since it’s inception.
        You know it’s NOT that I’m totally against healthcare for others it’s just WHY do I have to pay for mine and others in my golden years???
        And another thing is this is TOTALLY a Dem. bill, they wouldn’t listen to ONE thing the Republicans offered. SO the Doc’s still have outrageous insurance to protect them, their expenses don’t go down, and Medicaid pays peanuts.
        ALSO, where are all the Doc’s going to come from??? My own BIL a physician is retiring because of all the paper work. My own Doc. spends the entire time I’m in the office putting data into the computer, it’s NOT going to get better, and the illegal aliens will be on this in no time, so it’s pay, pay, and pay some more for people that invaded our country.

        • plsilverman

          no, it is NOT “totally” Democratic. Obama enlisted EIGHT of Romney’s “Romneycare” experts to help write it AND sourced the 1993 Republican Alternative to Hillarycare.

          • John Daly

            You hear that folks? Obamacare is not the fault of President Obama and the Democrats. It’s the fault of the Republicans!

          • alegalcitizen

            whoop whoop whoopee, He got input from”experts”, we they weren’t so dam hot then were they, or this would’t be fiasco.
            I’m talking about WHEN they were working on the bill, the Dems. were behind LOCKED DOORS, and NOT and NOT ONE thing they were offering was included, and obama spit in their faces when he got them together for a televised showing, and this is what he said “I won, you lost, blah, blah, blah, he’s a JERK!

  • Wil

    Rep. Louie Gohmert would make an excellent Republican candidate for president. He’s a most conservative candidate!

    • legal eagle

      Louie “Gomer Pyle” Gohmert for President……..Brilliant

  • LAPhil

    Something really bad is going to have to happen to save us from Hillary in 2016. I don’t mean any harm coming to her, I just mean she’ll have to be involved in some terrible scandal that the media won’t be able to spin and she won’t be able to weasel her way out of.

    • legal eagle

      ‘Save us from Hillary” ? So you’re saving yourself for morons like Rand Paul or Marco Rubio?

      • charlie

        How about saving us from morons like “legal eagle”. Seems every week he/she/it has to get on here and start this inane name-calling. Like so many Dems.

        • legal eagle

          Exactly my point….Don’t read anything from anyone you disagree with? Keep that channel tuned to Fox News?

          • nickshaw

            In fact, you’ll find me on HuffPoo, WaPoo, Mediaite, Mother Jones and DailyHak among many other lib sites.
            Yes, I watch Fox.
            The only fair and balanced news channel.
            And I watch CNN, as well as, the alphabet news on occasion.

            You say things that you know are not true for the majority of us and think you’re clever.
            You’re not.
            You’re typical low information, snarky Dim true believer.
            Enjoy the 2 1/2 cents from Soros.

          • plsilverman

            Fox is fair and balanced? since 01-20-09? nah. I have to say that Mr. Ailes is finally realzi9ng that Fox is NOT what it once was – he dumped Beck, Palin, and now will move Hannity. Read THE FOX EFFECT and THE NEW HATE.
            Since ’08 they have 24/7 Vilify Obama and they are generally recognized as a journalistic nightmare. Sammon writes memos (based upon the talking points dreamed up at the RNC) and the fulltime hosts MUST repeat and repeat them. If the head of the IRS visits the White House 11 times, no, it is 157! If somewhere on the planet, it’s written that Obama’s trip to India will cost a billion dollars a day, no problem, keep repeating that.>>Soros? ok, fine…we got Soros, you got the Kochs. who cares?

          • John Daly

            … says the guy who, on a number of occasions, has insisted that MSNBC covers the news fairly, honestly, and right down the middle. Eesh.

        • John Daly

          He’s like a really bad heckler in a comedy club – you know… that lonely, obnoxious guy in the room who thinks he’s funny and clever while everyone else finds him irritating and sad.

          • joepotato

            Maybe he (or she) is one of those paid trolls from O’Barry’s OFA slush fund…

          • nickshaw

            Remember, they get 2 1/2 cents per response. ;-)

          • legal eagle

            Actually I’m an excellent heckler…..Only bitter old white guys like yourself find me irritating…

          • John Daly

            Thanks for proving my point about how self-unaware you are. I appreciate it.

      • LAPhil

        Hey legal eagle, maybe you should stick to Mediaite where there are other people who share your delusions.

        • nickshaw

          I go to Mediaite a lot and the place is filled with types like the jail house lawyer up there. Phil.
          Inane snark with no substance.

          • legal eagle

            Inane?…Thanks for the compliment…Probably learned that term from overhearing family members talking about you..

        • plsilverman

          that’s right…we need to end Medicare and send social security to wall street and start 3 new wars. GO Rubio!!!

        • legal eagle

          I understand you need to communicate with members of your own club, The Bitter Old Man Society….

      • Lc Goodfellow

        Preacher says ” Hi”

        This hateful thing called the “Internet” has spread so much misinformation.
        No, it’s the human factor that hides behind these electric walls.

    • Shane

      Have you forgotten Benghazi already? I haven’t.

      • LAPhil

        No, of course not. The problem is most people don’t know what happened there and probably wouldn’t understand anyway.

        • nickshaw

          According to current polls, you’re wrong about that, Phil.
          Benghazi hasn’t been forgotten (yet! There’s still 3 years to go and it very well might get worse for Pantsuit.) and the majority still think something stinks.

          • LAPhil

            You don’t know how much I hope you’re right about this.

          • Red47

            Yep.

          • plsilverman

            Why forget Benghazi? AND…why spend 24/7 struggling to find some kind of trail to 1600? It’s not there. >>>Ooh, Pantsuit! It ain’t even ’16!! I guess Bill Samman and the gang want to jump right on this.

          • KAG505

            An American Ambassador is brutally murdered along with several others and you glibly joke about it? Clapping your hands with asinine glee over the cover up orchestrated by barry to cover his incompetence? You truly are pathetic.

          • John Daly

            Amazing, isn’t it? Blind partisanship has allowed many on the left to turn a terrorist massacre and its political coverup into a punchline.

          • plsilverman

            I did not joke about anything, did I? By the way, you have any proof that it was “orchestrated” by the President? Or is that YOUR “glee”?

          • John Daly

            Good point, Phil. Since he likes to lead from behind, Obama may have merely been an active participant in the cover-up – not the orchestrator. Being one of several in his administration that lied about the cause of the Benghazi attack, his active participation in the cover-up has already been proven.

          • plsilverman

            “lead from behind” is purely subjective, imaginative, bias. His active participation has been proven where? please give a cite or two and do use not Foxnews or any John Birch Society publications. and please do not send me any more posts and I’ll do the same. it’s very disappointing that a commentator on a major site enjoys personal attack and frivolous use of “facts” as he sees/wishes them. so no more posts in my direction. right?

          • John Daly

            Imaginative bias? Phil, the Obama administration used that term do describe itself the Benghazi operation. Conservatives didn’t come up with that.

            His active participation was proven every time he blamed the YouTube video and a spontaneous mob for the Benghazi attack. Our government knew from the onset that it was a terrorist attack, and our president lied in his second debate with Mitt Romney about having labeled it an act of terrorism from the beginning:
            http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/11/05/benghazi-attack/1684503/

            And I’m going to reply to your posts whenever I feel like it Phil. The fact that I write for this website doesn’t preclude me from pushing back against the bozos who come here to accuse people who disagree with them of being racist.

            The moderators on this site allow you to post here and say what you want to say, even at times when you manage to say things that are pretty despicable. So for you to demand that specific people shouldn’t reply to your posts is absurd. My guess is that you’ll be left with no reason to feel personally attacked if you stop personally attacking others.

        • legal eagle

          And you know what happened in Benghazi? How did you do your research other than watching Fox News…Amazing how 4 died in Benghazi and that’s a scandal while thousands dies in the World Trade Center and that was a “shock” to the Bush Administration….

          • LAPhil

            Yes, what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack which killed four Americans and the administration tried to blame it on a video for the next two weeks. And don’t even get me started on “What difference does it make?”

          • legal eagle

            That’s your great insight into Benghazi? For a minute I almost thought you would add a little insight…How foolish of me..

          • LAPhil

            I’m probably going to regret this, but maybe you could clue me in if you so have much insight into Benghazi. So far you’ve offered nothing.

          • legal eagle

            The only insight I have is the excerpt from a forthcoming book which appears in Vanity Fair. I’m not the one who said I have any great insight…Is the fact that it was not called a terrorist attack the basis of your claim that this constitutes a “scandal”?

          • LAPhil

            What’s wrong, stumped?

          • legal eagle

            What’s the scandal? The announcement or the incident?

          • LAPhil

            You know, for a lawyer you’re not too swift. Or maybe you’re not even a lawyer. THE WHOLE THING IS A SCANDAL! If you can’t see it I can’t help you any more.

          • legal eagle

            So you believe the attack was a scandal? Have you read anything about went on in Benghazi. Perhaps reading the facts might be helpful to you…Call it what you want…You wouldn’t be voting for Hillary anyway so what’s your point?

  • Joh

    I am a career military member, who retired before the Clintons took office. Bill may not have been the disgrace Jimmy Carter was, but he was close. Hillary has done nothing to distinguish herself since she became a senator and certainly not as Secretary of State. The every idea that the “slobbering love affair” with the Clintons could propel her into the democrat nominee in 2016 sickens me because I understand the uphill battle it will be to defeat her. She will get a pass from the media regarding Ben Ghazi, no doubt

    • legal eagle

      If the idea of Hillary being POTUS “sickens you” I would suggest you get to a doctor and get some medication before January 20, 2017….

  • Ralph Hahn

    As someone who agrees with The Tea Party movement, I would like to have some right-wing conservative in The White House, but it ain’t-a gonna happen. I blame Tea Partiers, as you pointed out Bernie, who stayed home on Election Day and sat on their hands because Romney ‘wasn’t a true conservative.’ They, and nine out of ten African-Americans handed Obama a 2nd term on a silver platter. The only Republican who stands a chance at beating Hillary is Chris Christie. He’s going to win a second term as Governor of NJ easily. He has a record to run on. I’m personally sick of the narrow choices we are given every four years because most of the candidates are U.S. Senators. Legislators are not leaders. But, I’m turning back my support for these conservative groups who are ganging up on Christie. And, why are conservative groups and even Fox News, are forcing Rand Paul on us? Another U.S. Senator with less than one term under his belt. That’s exactly what we have in the Oval Office now.

    • Ralph Hahn

      Hey! What happened to the edit button?

      • LAPhil

        It’s missing on my page too.

    • legal eagle

      You’d vote for Nixon if he ran on the Republican ticket…

      • nickshaw

        Against Pantsuit? In a heartbeat.

        • legal eagle

          Hillary has more brains in the bottom of her pantsuit than you have between your ears…One of her pantsuits probably costs more than your monthly rent…

          • John Daly

            Are you letting your grandchildren post responses for you now?

          • Integrity

            I need to take a shower after reading this post! By the way, is she wealthy enough now to be part of the 1%? And to think, it started with her lucrative investments in cattle futures. I do acknowledge that one of her pantsuits probably does cost more than my monthly mortgage. I don’t mind though, she needs to look good while doing the Lord’s work in raising money for charity. QED

          • legal eagle

            Probably time for you take a shower anyway…Don’t forget to also brush your teeth….

          • Integrity

            Well, the Jerk Store called, and they’re running out of you! I can’t say that I mind trading a few barbs with you every now and then, but you really suck at it and you are starting to bore me. QED

          • legal eagle

            Very witty…With your talent you could be a joke writer for Red Eye….

          • Integrity

            Life is a Seinfeld episode. Happy early Festivus! QED

          • legal eagle

            It’s a little early for Festivus but can we assume Mr. Costanza has turned into a bitter old man?

          • Integrity

            Yes, as well as analogous to a few characters that frequent this site. QED

      • plsilverman

        funny thing is, Nixon was at least a real Republican who was willing to compromise. He should be THE GOP Icon, but no, it is the Gipper, responsible for the Beirut 241 and Iran-Contra and letting War Hero North hold the bag.

    • nickshaw

      Though I disagree with experience being a deal breaker, you’re right otherwise.

    • legal eagle

      Do you have a clue what the Tea Party Movement believes in?

  • Bud_Billiken

    Hillary will be#45. It’s a fait accompli. David Axelrod told me so.

  • larryl212

    F***It!!! Run a meat eating, red neck conservative. Then dare the American public / ‘sheeples’ to vote for… “Obama: The Sequel.” If our civilization has imploded to the point where language… borders… culture/custom no longer matters… then let the great unwashed stew in their mess. ENOUGH of running scared. MAN-UP!!! Run… and run hard… ruthless… no apologies… no quarter expected nor given. All out. Please stop running not to lose… can you say McCain? Can you say Romney? Enough is enough. RUN TO WIN!!!

    • legal eagle

      You sound like a real tough guy…..

      • larryl212

        Tough guy? Nope. In fact, not close. But I am tired of all the intellectual non-sense around how toxic an aggressive conservative message would be in a presidential election . It’s time to either make a stand… or fold our hand and leave the casino. Now if that is “tough guy” stuff… so be it. PS: Tough guy stuff is siccing the IRS on citizens who disagree with your secular political and cultural agenda.

      • nickshaw

        Said the metrosexual lib’rul who spends his day trying to make people think he’s a tough guy on the intertubz!
        Jeez, you people are lame.

  • Dennis

    The thought of Hilary Clinton as the next president actually nauseate me. Four more years of liberal policies that are unbelievably expensive, designed for the sole purpose of making limousine liberals feel good so they can stroke each other at cocktails parties because they are sooooooo compassionate and care so much for the little people and never work is enough to make me sick.
    However, I do take some comfort in knowing that even as incompetent as Hilary proved herself to be as Sec of State, she cannot help but be an improvement over (harp music please) Barack Obama.

    • legal eagle

      I would suggest you buy a large bottle of Emetrol, a drug used for nausea…You’ll need enough to last you 8 years so stock up now….LOL

      • Stimpy

        I’d say that your are getting tiresome … but you’ve already been there for at least the last six boring comments that you’ve spouted.

    • nickshaw

      I think she’d be much, much worse than Skeeter, Dennis.
      And on purpose! Not because she’s incompetent!

  • Acu-Vue

    I too would not be foolish enough to predict the 2016 presidential election, I think we all should have learned our lesson from Dick Morris. (What ever happened to him anyway?) However, I do know this, if the Republicans along with the Tea Party, truly want to win back The White House, there is one very simple way to do it. Pick a date, hold another rally in Washington similar to the Tea Party demonstration a few years back and instead of dumping tea into the Boston harbor, simultaneously all Republicans, Tea Party members, and Conservatives dump all their paper assets at once. (Stocks, Bonds, Mutual Funds etc.) This would bring Wall Street to its knees and Wall Street is the only thing still holding up this very well hidden collapsing economy. In my opinion the Stock, Bond, Mutual Fund market is the biggest Ponzi Scheme in the history of mankind. It would not take much to take it down. The current administration would be completely exposed for its failure, it would get the attention of the majority of the people who do not usually pay attention, leaving the Republicans there for the rescue.

    • ph16

      Hopefully Dick Morris has gotten a one way ticket to the land of irrelevance with no return ticket.

      • Montana Made

        I don’t think I would be too quick to denounce Morris- it was once said by Joseph Stalin, “The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”

        George Soros owns the company that counted the last election…

        • legal eagle

          Another absurd statement by the Right Wing Nut Job crowd…

          • Montana Made

            I stand corrected- it was Pere Valles that I was thinking of- the CEO of SCYTL, the companyh that was contracted to count the ballots- it is Pere that donated heavily to the Obama campaign, and is an avowed Socialist.

            Again- it only matters who counts the votes…

          • legal eagle

            I try never to argue with paranoia…..Stay fearful my friend..

          • Montana Made

            you have Google- look it up and get informed.

    • legal eagle

      Sounds like you got your degree in economics at Wal-Mart….If you ever read a book on finance you’d know that your statement about dumping stocks in absurd…..

      • Acu-Vue

        You can keep your paper assets, I’ll keep my real estate, gold and silver and let’s see how this plays out. All paper castles come tumbling down eventually.

        • legal eagle

          To each his own….Don’t forget to keep your emergency food and water in case Armageddon begins when Hillary is elected….LOL

          • Acu-Vue

            You forgot about my gun and ammo! By the way, aren’t you getting bored with ending every comment with…LOL —Maybe try LOI (Lack Of Intelligence). It might be more suited to you.

          • legal eagle

            When I get bored I will let you know so you can sext me…

          • Acu-Vue

            Judging by your answers and writing capabilities, you don’t seem old enough. You respond like a 14 year old therefore I will never reply to you again. Over and Out Mr. LOL.

          • legal eagle

            Promise? If you do I will buy some more of your contact lenses Mr. Acu-Vue..

  • http://theromancatholicvote.com/ catholicvoter

    Bernie: I like the line “anything can happen in politics and it usually does.” I know you don’t want to write any more books and you shouldn’t have to but I would love to see another Bernie book. All your others are great. See you tonight on The Factor.

    • legal eagle

      Is Monday the night that Bernie appears on O’Reilly’s show to tell Bill what a genius he is and kiss his butt so he can continue to draw a check from Fox News?

      • http://theromancatholicvote.com/ catholicvoter

        Hahaha! Yup = that’s the night.

  • Ksp48

    Do we really want another President who can’t be criticized or disagreed with for fear of being called “sexist”?

    • nickshaw

      That “War On Wymyn™” card will be a HUGE factor!
      Very little criticism of Pantsuit will be allowed without the, “Surely, this man beats his wife too!” from the LSM.

  • Walt

    If Hillary wins in 2016, “what difference does it make now?” The country is already down the crapper. Does that remark sound familiar?

  • Sandylns

    Why would you elect a woman with so many faults? Surely, there can be no sympathy for her over being made a cuckquean by her husband? And the baggage she brings makes her unworthy of the office.

    • nickshaw

      Won’t matter in the least.

      America is the land of LIVs and chromosomes will trump any argument that tries to present her lack of accomplishment and shady, practically criminal background.

    • legal eagle

      The 1920′s have passed…..Try to catch up with the times…

  • john havlicek

    If there isn’t a nation-wide campaign to hold Hillary Clinton accountable for both her actions before, during and just after “Benghazi”…and specifically her “what difference does it make” comments, then all hope is lost. As a candidate for the highest office in the land, we should expect no less from both the press and the opposition for ANY candidate. After that, we can get into just exactly why people assert she was a “:great” Secretary of State, much less even a “good one”. She will be running on her “accomplishments”, so let those be an issue. A mentally-deficient monkey should be able to take on that challenge, therefore the press shouldn’t (present company excluded of course) have too much difficulty.

    • Montana Made

      John- I hate to be the one to say it- but it’s already over for America as we know it. The people have mostly forgotten her comments and will not want to pursue it. If the GOP decides to- they will be hounded by the left & the media as trying to hold a vendetta against Hillary (they have already completely forgotten why it’s important in the first place- 4 dead Americans!) and made to be seen as vindictive and petty.

      The lofovo’s will fall for it and get her in as the flavor of the moment- the first gargoyle president! I mean, woman… human female that is…

      • legal eagle

        If it’s over for America maybe you can leave and make room for someone who will be productive and do something but whine about the good old days…

        • Montana Made

          “good old days”? you mean the days BEFORE 4 Americans were murdered while the Obama Administration did NOTHING to warn or save them??

          Are those the days you’re referring to?

          • John Daly

            Personally, I liked the good old days when our unemployment rate didn’t like like Europe’s.

          • Montana Made

            WAAAAYYY back in the day’s of GWB and 4.9%. Those were better days!

    • nickshaw

      Though I’m not sure how much good it will do, considering we are a nation of LIVs but, an ad using parts of Pantsuit’s 2008 three am phone call campaign ad finishing up with, “What difference does it make?” would be pretty darn powerful.

      • Montana Made

        The GOP is already using that in the latest ad- but it won’t fly in the channels it needs to- main stream. The left won’t allow it- so the same useful idiots that are going to vote her in won’t ever hear those ads.

        • nickshaw

          The LSM networks could refuse to run a political ad?

          • Montana Made

            They cannot refuse a candidate- but they can refuse a super-pac, which that one is. I’m having a problem finding it now- though it was on Hannity a week ago… hmmm.

    • potvin

      That’s not going to happen.

      • legal eagle

        Potvin,
        Saw you win the Stanley Cup with the Islanders….This site has a lot of famous posters including Hondo Havlicek and you self…Wonder if Bobby Orr will be posting soon?

    • legal eagle

      You must be an expert on mentally deficient monkeys having accomplished so much in your boring and bitter life…It must be a drag being old and bitter…

  • Peep

    My advice – In the debates make her lose her temper. She doesn’t have the temperment to be President. Without being a bully make her lose it on National TV.

    • nickshaw

      She gets nervous and giggly when she’s caught on subjects she doesn’t have a clue about too.

      I would play it as though she doesn’t expect tough opposition or questions. Her ego is big enough and smarmy enough to make her look bad in a debate.
      She knows she has the LSM at her back and won’t prepare. Just like Skeeter.

  • cephasalpha

    I read down about 15 comments and have a question: Who? Who fits the bill Bernie and others envsision? Unfortunately, Chris Christie comes closest. Still better than Hillary. Petsonally, I stand for Rand.

    • nickshaw

      Christie does come closest to a win, I agree.
      Though I would prefer Cruz or Rand at this particular point in time, we need to remember a Republican president will be influenced and countered by his House and Senate members.
      Christie, unlike a Dim president, could be dissuaded from pursuing idiotic policies like the “fight” against Gorebull Warming, for example.
      Getting a Repub as president should be the only goal, changing his mind about any progressive ideas he has can be done internally.
      Let the progs think he’s with them, it will help.

      • I Hate Fascists

        Dissuade Fat Jesus? How? Take away his doughnuts? As for Toxic Ted he should have to provide a birth certificate too no?

        • nickshaw

          Fat Jesus? Sorry, we don’t consider OUR leading figures as deities. Only Dims do that.
          And Ted has no problem providing a birth certificate.
          He was born in Canada. Everyone already knows.
          You and the rest of the Dim pack of hyenas may not think he qualifies but, I hate to tell you this, he does.
          Just as John McCain did.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Deity? With a name like Chris Christie? What else could his middle name be but Jesus? He needs to go on a deity that’s for sure. Toxic Ted qualifies? This from you who is always talking out your blowhole about Obama’s birth certicate?

          • nickshaw

            Putz.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Who? Is that another one of your deities?

    • legal eagle

      Who fits the bill? Rush Limbaugh…..

  • Bruce A.

    I am sick of hearing about Hillary & looking at her. Enough already.

    • legal eagle

      I’m sure she’s sick of looking at you too….LOL

  • Tom Rizzo

    In the long run, Republicans have a way – as bizarre as it might seem – of getting in each other’s way. If handguns were passed to the GOP, each of them would shot themselves in the foot –and without taking aim. Unfortunately, the party is packed with old men of no ideas, no vision, and no compromise who still think that people care about their stand on immigration, abortion and gay and lesbian rights. Wake up. Hillary is coming.

    • nickshaw

      I gave your comment due consideration and, though a small part of it is unfortunately, true, the rest is bunk.

  • Just A. Thought

    Yes we do!!! And we’ll prove it to you with the outcome of the next election! SInce the outcome of the next election will be nothing more than a mere formality, might as well hand Hillary her scepter now.

  • 1940voter

    The left has bought elections with all the free stuff they hand out to the uninformed and have created an underclass in this country that know’s no bounds. Hillary will be haunted by the 3am call that not only she did not answer but was no where to be found. So what does it matter, it matters because people’s memories cringe at the thought of Americans being slaughtered and thsi is the image the Republicans should play everyday in tv ads. The horrors of an inept adminstration playing at being classy. Oh yes and don’t forget all the Hillary lies before she became Obama’s puppet.

    • cephasalpha

      You ar right, and that is my greatest fear. That future elections have already been bought and paid for by the Democrats.I say paid for only for simplicity’s sake..The currency will soon colapse with no safety net to stop it.

  • allen goldberg

    Bernie: With our last names being the same..I feel compelled to point out three Republicans ‘thing’ that doomed them…(1) they start far too late..the Dems have already started (2) they refuse to engage in the blood-sport of politics..the Dems recognize the sport for what it is (3) They are woefully naive…and do not understand the society today..specifically the digital world….add these things together with the MSM horrific bias and FRAUD and the ‘perceived’ racist belief that all conservatives and the Tea Party are religious racists…and guess what…more doom and gloom…WHEN IS THE GOP GOING TO STOP TAKING THE PUNCHES TO THE CHIN, AND START PUNCHING EVERYDAY BACK?/ WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF? NEWS MEDIA BIAS???

    • legal eagle

      When would you propose they start? If the MSM is horrifically biased what is the Right Wing Media? Fair and Balanced?
      Aren’t you tired of claiming victimization?

      • allen goldberg

        No, I am actually tired of listening to libtards like you. Thanks for throwing your opinion in, but the alphabet soup of liberal stations owned and operated by libtards just like you, far outnumbers any “right wing media” [I suppose 1 is too many for you isn't it?] Moreover, poll after poll shows the MSM 80% to 90% voted for liberal democratic candidates, including the Impostor in Chief, so please do not play the liberal victimization BS with me. By the way, I did not say conservatives were victimized at all, that’s merely your four cells working overtime. as far as Hillary goes, she’s human excrement in expensive clothing.

  • beniyyar

    Bernie, I like you and I respect your opinions. You are knowledgeable, informed, and reasonable but in this case I have to disagree with you. While I would prefer that the GOP field a candidate for President who would run a campaign with policies that would find favor with a majority of Americans, I would not be terribly upset if Hillary Clinton won the Presidency. Hillary Clinton would have made a much better President than Barack Obama, because while she is Left wing, she is also pragmatic about her policies and seems to have an understanding of what is good for the public, unlike Obama who is a radical Left wing apparatchik who rams his policies through no matter how unpopular or wrong headed they are. Again, the GOP has to make a choice and it will not be easy, whether to nominate a far Right loon who will alienate even moderate GOP voters, or to nominate a reasonable, likable, mature, and experienced candidate who understands that victory means winning most of the time, not on every issue all the time.

  • joepotato

    Elections (like the last one) are most likely compromised. Fair and true elections are history… The fix was in and the game is rigged… This next one ( if we have one) will be no different. Aside from that, Repelicans (leadership) are squishy traitors and will “fix” another (designated) loser to go against Shrillary. The sad truth… It’s being revealed that the Repelicans (along with most Dems) know that O’Soebarry is an illegal POTUS, a foreigner… The evidence of his phony ID’s is available for all… The Repelicans are avoiding the issue to avoid criminal complicity in the fraud and subsequent coverup… That’s how bad the corruption is… The story needs to be told!

    • Montana Made

      “…The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” -Joseph Stalin

      Guess who counted the last election: George Soros…

      • joepotato

        Yeah… how ’bout that…?

        • Montana Made

          I have no problem letting the counties do the counting- just like they used to. As long as there are representatives on both sides of the aisle, should work out okay. Better than Spain doing the numbers…

          And for the record- I am wrong on Soros- it was Pere Valles that I was thinking of. A very large sponsor & $$ supporter of Obama.

      • I Hate Fascists

        Who do you want to count them? You? You couldn’t count to 11 without pulling your pants down. Come to think of it you still couldn’t count past 10.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    It’s not that the media will crown Hillary, but that they will pull out all stops to demonize her opponent. They will lie, cheat, dissemble, obfuscate, and direct a stream of invective never before seen in history. When they’re done, it will be easy to believe, her opponent may actually be anti-Christ incarnate. I doubt a Pope John-Paul or a Mother Theresa could withstand the calumny

    • gold7406

      100% correct. Her campaign will demonize everyone that doesn’t agree with her and will expand dependency as a reward for fictitious victimization.

    • I Hate Fascists

      A stream of invective never seen since the comment directly above yours (assuming your sort order is set to newest).

      • Brian Fr Langley

        The fact that’s it’s true, is my defense. As well, the fact that it’s true, requires harsh denunciation.

        • I Hate Fascists

          You are a birther too? Brian I thought you were better than that

  • Wil

    I not only don’t want to have another coronation, I don’t want to be her subject. Didn’t we fight a war on this idea?

  • T Ivison

    Mark O’Malley, Govenor of Maryland, will challenge Hillary for the Democrat nomination and run far to the left of her. That will pull Hillary to the far left in order to maintain the far left base. In the general election, after 8 years of Obama, Americans will have had a belly full of far left politics. Americans will reject Hillary and vote for a moderate Republican.

    • gold7406

      Every clear minded individual hopes you are correct.

  • Streetcop

    Excellent piece

  • legal eagle

    Hillary has no accomplishments as opposed to whom in the Republican Party? What is Chris Christie’s great accomplishment? What was St. Reagan’s great accomplishment when he ran in 1980? What is Rand Paul’s great accomplishment?
    Same old nonsense…different day…

    • Seattle Sam

      Hmm. Let’s see. Reagan was elected governor twice. Christie will be able to make that statement shortly. Rand Paul is a US Senator. Other than that?

    • John daly

      Only a hack would view what Christie has done with New Jersey’s budget and economy, after what John Corzine had left him with, as something other than an achievement.

      • I Hate Fascists

        No doubt you will be fair and say the same for Obama and Bush Jr.?

        • John Daly

          The slowest economic recovery in the history of the United States? Yeah, I definitely give credit to Obama for that.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Better than being in a depression which is where we would be in a right wing administration

          • John Daly

            Sure.

          • cephasalpha

            Kool-aid drinker.How about the credit market crisis being warned about a year prior by McCain and others the Democrats IGNORED. Google Bush, McCain, Frank, crisis and watch the TRUTH on YouTube

          • I Hate Fascists

            Hey cult follower. The TRUTH is that under Bush the Iraq war was initiated for no reason but to enrich Sticky Dick Cheney and his partners in crime at Halliburton.

          • John Daly

            lol. And you make fun of the birthers?

          • I Hate Fascists

            No never. That is too easy. Are you a birther?

          • Wil

            Bush W. got Medicare Part D passed, put two losing and unbudgeted wars on the country’s
            credit card, passed tax cuts that deprived the government of needed funds,
            concentrating wealth at the stratospheric upper end of the society, and oversaw
            the near meltdown of the US financial system. After Obama’s first two years, his
            opponents in Congress have successfully blocked most of his economic policies.
            And remember that like all new Presidents, his first year was spent on his
            predecessor’s budget.

          • ph16

            Note to Wil, while you are right that presidents usually spend on their predecessor’s budget the first year. However, a continuing resolution was signed from September 30, 2008 to March 6, 2009 and the 2009 budget was not signed until March 11, 2009 by President Obama because the Democrats wanted more money to be spent that Bush said he would veto.

      • legal eagle

        I’d ask you to be more specific but I know you don’t do that…..LOL

        • John Daly

          LOOK IT UP. One of your biggest problems, legal eagle (and you have several) is that you don’t seem know much.

          I’m not saying your dumb. I’m saying that you don’t seem to have a knowledge base when it comes to national news. Do you actually watch or read the news? I’m talking about news reports… not just Chris Matthews whining about birthers and dog whistles.

          For me to say that Chris Christie’s budget record in New Jersey is impressive, and for you to have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about… that’s pretty amazing. The things he’s done in New Jersey from the teachers unions to spending reductions have received a TON of publicity over the past few years because they’re transformational.

          I’m not going to waste time trying to educate someone who’s too lazy to even bother to follow the news. LOOK IT UP! I’m not your personal researcher, especially on common knowledge topics than any serious person discussing politics should already know about.

      • Wil

        Remember, Christie has a Democratic House & Senate.

        • Jeff Webb

          Remember, President Bush had a democrat House & Senate when the economy started to tank; Bush had a Republican House & Senate earlier, when the economy was strong.

          • Wil

            Bush had a republican House & Senate for 6 years and then the economy crashed. Get your facts straight!

          • John Daly

            No he didn’t, Wil. Get YOUR facts straight. Republicans didn’t control the Senate until two years after Bush was first elected. And the Dems had the House AND Senate for nearly two years before the economy crashed.

          • Wil

            Bush was president when the economy crashed. Nothing was passed, unless Bush okayed it!

            ’nuff said!

          • John Daly

            Well then, Obama should be held accountable for everything that has happened during his time in office, correct? Nothing whatsoever should be blamed on congress, right?

          • Wil

            Wrong!

          • John Daly

            Thank you for admitting then, that you’re a hack without an ounce of objectivity. That will save us time in the future.

          • Wil

            I’m thinking you are a house husband and your wife is the real breadwinner.

          • John Daly

            And if she were, what would that matter?

          • Wil

            Nope.

          • Jeff Webb

            I’ve covered this topic before–liberals buckle under the expectations they apply to Republicans.

            Even by your standards, Obama is far worse than President Bush, Champ. That’s gotta burn.

          • Wil

            Remember, Obama didn’t start 2 wars!

            Question:

            Did you vote for Bush W… two times?

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Remember, Obama didn’t start 2 wars<>Question:

            Did you vote for Bush W… two times?<<

            Yes, I voted for Obama's far, far superior predecessor.

          • Wil

            You are completely brainwashed!

            “nuff said!

  • Seattle Sam

    If presidential elections are determined by low information voters who decide whether they “like” one candidate more than the other, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE whether the GOP candidate is a “hardliner” or some other liner on the issues? You’re contradicting yourself within a single column, Bernie.

    • legal eagle

      What exactly is a “low information” voter? Is that a “republican buzzword for minorities?
      Should we assume that Southern states are full of “high information” voters?
      I love when Frank Luntz comes up with code words for Republicans which they keep repeating ad infinitum.

      • joepotato

        Obot pahleeez….

      • John Daly

        Minorities?

        Please explain to me why, in your mind, you identified the term “low information voters” with minorities? Do you think minorities are dumb, legal?

      • David

        Low information voters? They are us. Watch Leno and Kimmel and the foolish questions they ask people on the street they couldn’t answer if life depended on it. Simple every day questions. Kimmel asks questions of things that hasn’t happened and these low info voters answer with conviction. Watch Water’s World and see the foolishness he gets in response. Even from our elected officials. Our own president thinks 4×3=11. You ask of low information voters? Here’s part of your question now answered.

      • Montana Made

        So, let me get this straight- you think the minorities are stupid??

        “Lofovo’s” as I call them are those people, usually between 18-30, who just don’t give a flying crap about politics. They fall for the flavor of the moment- what ever is in vogue at the time. That’s the ONLY reason Obama won both times. Had the lofovos been paying attention, B.O. would have never won. But he speaks so well and looks good on camera- and the to top it off- the first black POTUS!! Who could pass that up?? Certainly not the useful idiots who elected him.

        OR, the other lofovos are those that keep themselves in bondage to the government. They vote for whomever will give them the most “free stuff” (does Obama-phone” sound familiar??). They will keep putting in liberals against their own best interests. Insisting they deserve it. They do not understand that the “free stuff” is not free- but they’re okay with taking more from wealthier people because they are oppressed somehow (yeah, they did it to themselves…).

        But I gotta feeling that after Obama-Care has been crammed down their throats for a couple years- they might just wake up!

        • legal eagle

          Republicans, not me, think minorities are stupid….They must be stupid or they would be in favor of the Republican agenda of obstruction, anti-abortion and anti voting right….LOL

          • John Daly

            Don’t try and deflect what you said, Legal.

            You read Bernie’s use of the phrase, “low information voters” and you immediately thought of minorities. That’s what happened, and that’s what allowed you to make the presumption you did, even if you were trying to use that presumption to bash the Republicans.

            This mindset is very common among liberals. It’s what allows them to hear all of these make-believe “dog whistles” they’re always complaining about. The problem, legal, is that white-guilt-stricken liberals like yourself are the ones who instinctively make such an association. Then, to rid yourself of that guilt, you pretend someone else was thinking what YOU were.

            It’s a form of racial prejudice, and you’re clearly guilty of it.

      • ph16

        Low information voters are the type of people who can tell you all about their favorite celebrity or reality show, but haven’t got a clue about their senator, representative, president, or whatever politician you want to use.

    • T Ivison

      Good point. Democrat votes tend to be low information voters. Understanding Republican policy positions require more thought and better informed voters.

      • I Hate Fascists

        And a team of psychiatrists

  • rbblum

    Given the supreme, universal, natural laws of economics, what difference at this point does it make?

    • joepotato

      True that… It may not be long and we’re all going down in flames …
      Maybe we’ve had our last “selection”…

  • americalsgt

    The only Hillary bumper sticker I want to see would be on the front bumper saying Run Hillary Run.

    • Jenn

      awesome…

    • Wil

      Sounds like a serious threat, to me, I hope you are not armed!

    • I Hate Fascists

      You are one funny Fascist

    • I Hate Fascists

      Even in high heels she would have a better chance of outrunning the car than Chris (Fat Jesus) Christie

  • Wheels55

    I am fairly certain that Myra Adams is correct, unless the GOP can produce a charismatic politically strong candidate. I don’t see that person.

    I think Republicans should concentrate on keeping the house and taking the senate. Executive Orders aside, Hillary would not much power.

    • americalsgt

      Ben Carson would be charismatic and a formidable opponent. A smart, good man who would be what the founders envisioned as the president and not what we have had beginning with FDR. Now, throw in the Senate with the house and we could see some positive changes for this country.

  • plsilverman

    give the American people SOME credit, Bern’…..you know, like they have access to that thing called The Internet, no? :) Guess what? McCain, who should have been President in 2000 (well, if the Supreme Court was not needed to stop a recount) but for the efforts of guys like Rove to make up scandals against him, hired a nice person named Sarah who “knew nothing”, according to his campaign mgr. and a lot of Americans. A heartbeat away? I don’t think so. Romney? good guy, Presidential, yes….but the only thing he did well on the trail was debate his own party – his commercials were loaded with trash – and his statements such as Obama wants to end the Welfare work requirement or that Jeep is packing up to move to Mexico, were too much for the voters.
    you se, pal, you cannot accept the fact that a young African American Liberal can be in charge. It’s gotta be the “media” that did it for him. and, oh yeah, those low information voterz – who stood in line 8 hours to defy the Jim Crow-brained Voter Suppression program.

    • Jeff Webb

      >> you cannot accept the fact that a young African American Liberal can be in charge.<<

      Dude, boring. Please think up some new ways to make yourself look like an idiot.

      • plsilverman

        a very insightful post! by the way, why are you so determined to communicate with an “idiot”?

        • John Daly

          Conservatives are very charitable people.

          • plsilverman

            From our vaunted pundit! One line of sarcasm covers his whole day! Would you tell me to my face I was idiotic, pal? Never. :) THAT’s how charitable you are.

          • John Daly

            lol. A tough guy, eh?

            Phil, I’m not the even the guy who called you an idiot. But would you like me to? Because I will.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Phil is talking to Daly not you. It just shows up as you because this website is all fcuked up

          • plsilverman

            let’s see, “idiot” is “charitable”, in my case. wasn’t that it? by the way, I am a tough guy but with a heart of gold. I don’t want you to call me an idiot because I do not want to further enable your fetish.

          • John Daly

            >>let’s see, “idiot” is “charitable”, in my case. wasn’t that it?

            Not quite. You asked Jeff why he would waste his time talking to an “idiot” like you, and I suggested it was because he was just being charitable with his time. A pretty straight forward response, which I’m not surprised you failed to grasp.

            >>I am a tough guy but with a heart of gold

            Yeah, you’re a gem – a real Joseph McCarthy of the modern racial defamation movement. An inspiration to all.

          • plsilverman

            you are *surprised* I did not grasp his point but at the same time you say I’m an idiot. Interesting. I don’t like to be called names and associated with maniacs like McCarthy. You never back up your insults, why? here is my e-mail address (if you really have a need to keep addressing me when I’ve asked you not to…..you see, I can say, I just won’t read his posts but they obviously break thru to my e-mail: I see your name, read your insult, and feel I must reply. I can say if I’m a McCarthy then you are a John Bircher. Then you reply, then I reply. It’s embarrassing.) So either e-mail me at beauzee@gmail.com or cease and desist. There is no means here to “block” you..all I can do is spend money and time getting my Lawyer to officially ask you to stop the nonsense and character assassination.

          • John Daly

            I never said you were an idiot, and I never said you weren’t. Stop putting words in my mouth.

            I’m sorry you don’t like to be compared to Joseph McCarthy. My guess is that the people who write for this site and post on this site don’t like to be associated with, and categorized as, racists. But that doesn’t stop you from doing that ALL THE TIME. If you don’t view THAT as character assassination, I find that absolutely astonishing.

            If you don’t want people replying to your posts, don’t post here. If you don’t want people personally insulting you, don’t personally insult them. That’s probably exactly what your lawyer would you tell you… that is, after he stopped laughing over the reason you called him in the first place.

          • plsilverman

            sorry, pal, no cigar. I point out racially charged posts and the pure racism that you would, as a chosen pundit here, HAVE to recognize. Is it playing the “race card” to say that too many posts here are very racist?Is it because racist statements also have come from the Left that when they come from the Right, they should be ignored?

            There have been many racist posts and there appears to be no way to get them removed…all someone can do is EXPOSE it. I welcome debate and discussion and do not welcome personal attack.
            You said that if I’m called an “idiot”, then the CALLER is being charitable.

            But since you also say that you will not NOT call me an idiot…then YOU HAVE THE CHOICE NOT TO READ *MY* POSTS.

            I have been writing for many years and I can say I’m frankly very surprised that a spotlight writer choses to use personal attack on the readers with whom he disagrees. I would be stunned if Bernie Goldberg is not also stunned by your personal attacks.

          • John Daly

            >>I point out racially charged posts and the pure
            racism that you would, as a chosen pundit here, HAVE to recognize.

            Wrong. You assume EVERYTHING written here is an example of racism. You told some poor poster a few months ago that he was racist because he joked about President Obama missing a bunch of basketball shots in row, WHICH HE DID! It was played all over the late-night comedy shows. You even smeared the poor guy on Twitter.

            Don’t remember it? Here you go: http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/listen-up-oreilly/

            And when it was pointed out to you that you hadn’t a clue what you were talking about, you did what you always do. You ignore your the truth and refuse to apologize. You do this ALL THE TIME, and it’s disgusting. You presume racism in people who think differently than you do.

            So if you have no qualms in cavalierly accusing people of racism, as you did with Bernie in this very thread (which initiated the whole phantom ‘idiot’ controversy), the notion that those people can’t throw an insult your way without you threatening to sue them is beyond insanity.

            Next, stop lying about what I said. Once again, you ventured into Bizarro-world by assuming somebody implied something that they clearly didn’t. The joke, which was painfully obvious to everyone but you, was that the reason Jeff was bothering to continue communicating with you was because he was being charitable.

            Bottom line: When someone comes to this site and carelessly throws around racial defamation charges left and right (regardless of how sanctimonious it makes them feel), I have the right to respond to it and call those people out. And if you don’t like it and can’t deal with it, you don’t have to come here. Because if you don’t come here, you’ll never have to worry about me ever replying to your posts again.

          • plsilverman

            “smeared” who? Burt? the poster? did you happen to notice my question mark and my happy face, pal? BUT Burt’s final sentence about teaching the youth how to shoot baskets bordered on racial. this site is obsessed with race.>>guess what? if there are zero examples of racially charged commentaries and posts here then why are so defensive?

          • John Daly

            >> “smeared” who? Burt? the poster?
            The poster.

            >>did you happen to notice my question mark and my happy face, pal?
            Give me a break. You were happy because you thought you caught someone saying something racist.

            >>Burt’s final sentence about teaching the youth how to shoot baskets bordered on racial.

            NO IT DIDN’T! This is EXACTLY my point. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with race. Burt’s joke was referencing all of the baskets President Obama missed at an Easter basketball game just a few weeks earlier. The clip was shown repeatedly on television. I even gave you a link to the story at the time, which you of course ignored. Here it is again: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-basketball-game-easter-egg-roll-2013-4

            I’m sure you’ll ignore it once again.

            Again, this is a PERFECT example of your problem. Because you cling to racial stereotypes, you read a remark from a conservative that included “Obama” and “basketball” and you immediately assumed racism. You have a serious problem, and you need to recognize this.

            >>this site is obsessed with race.

            No. YOU and the people you admit you admire like (like Chris Matthews and Al Sharpton) are obsessed with race. The columns I occasionally write about race are about denouncing race-baiters, denouncing racial defamation, and denouncing racial condescension.

            >>if there are zero examples of racially charged commentaries and posts here then why are so defensive?
            Racially charged? I never claimed that there have never been posters who have come to this site and made racist, or at least racially-insensitive comments. I’ve seen some – both from conservatives and liberals, and I don’t like it when it happens. For example, your buddy, “I Hate Fascists” made some Asian racial slurs about Michelle Malkin a while back (which you interestingly decided not to comment on at the time).

            I’m not defensive. I’m fed up. You and people like you are the reason racial progress is slipping in this country right now. When accusations of racism are thrown around willy nilly, ACTUAL racism becomes marginalized. People tune out legitimate examples of racism because of how many false accusations are out there. People no longer take the charge seriously. I want legitimate racism taken seriously. That’s why I get fed up with the rhetoric you spread.

          • plsilverman

            Gingrich made a statement, paraphrasing “Obama ‘s not a real President….he’s got his basketball”. “Basketball [and Obama]” is code for Obama as just a “community organizer” who’s best talent is “for shooting hoops in the ‘hood”.>>>>I’ll try again: I put in a question mark and a happy face on my reply post to the person you say was “smeared”.>>>>”ACTUAL racism” is now an art-form on the hard right, at least from 2001. there are too many quotes from Limbaugh, Coulter, Ingraham, and the rest to list here. But R-E-A-L, kinetic Racism is in the Voter Suppression Movement>>>Pal, I read Michelle Malkin maybe twice in one year…I don’t keep up with her nonsense at all. O’Reilly even banned her from his show. If she was called a racial epithet, that shows the stupidity of the caller.>>>please contact me only thru e-mail.

          • John Daly

            More code words and dog whistles. Great.

            First of all, thanks for completely disregarding what I pointed out about Burt’s column and your reaction to it. I knew you would, and you didn’t let me down.

            Secondly, Chris Matthews has poisoned your brain. He really has. Anyone can take somebody’s remarks and twist them into racist “code words” if they have enough drive, enough time on their hands, and enough hate in their heart. THAT is the “art-form” you’re talking about, and the “artists” are the loons who work at MSNBC.

            You desperately need better role-models.

          • plsilverman

            has Glenn Beck “poisoned” your brain, pal?:) by the way, I do not follow Chris Matthews – if he’s on where I’m at, I’ll look at his show for 10 minutes. sorry.>>>loons at MSNBC? Maddow? O’Donnell? liars? you’re a writer -you think their copy is poor? you know it’s better than Fox’s. ok, you hate their opinions…name one instance where they were wrong on something empirical. [on 2-3 occasions, I've heard heartfelt apologies the next day, when they misspoke or said something wrong. O'Reilly, Hannity?....Twice I heard O'Reilly struggle to get thru a semi-apology].
            tell me..what other shows do I watch?
            I hate to make your lower lip quiver but I get my news from various sources on the web; from Washington Post; Washington Times, Two River Times in NJ; Orange County Register (yeah, real Lib’), National Review (yes!), The American Rifleman, The New Yorker, The Nation, Mother Jones. I am pro-Life and pro-Israel. (I like Nixon and Bush I and many things Reagan accomplished).
            Keep your sarcasm. contact me only on e-mail if you can’t control yourself.

          • John Daly

            I don’t care where you get your news, Phil. Nor do I want to be your pen-pal. Stay focused. Changing the topic isn’t going to negate the concrete proof that was just laid out before you (scroll up) that you see racism in places where it is not. You tell people they’re making racist statements when they’re not. You accuse people of being racists who aren’t.

            That’s a reality, and you can’t deny it. All you can do is keep changing the subject and threatening people to try and escape scrutiny for the things you say.

            People like you keep racism alive by applying it whenever someone says something you don’t like, instead of letting this country’s racial wound heal. Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel important?

          • plsilverman

            how did I “smear” the poster if I put in a question mark and a happy face. tell ya what…I know what a “smear” is and I know I’ve been only on the receiving end of that, right here.

          • plsilverman

            part 2: I think it is a professionally run site….I just disagree with 99% of the content.
            I think Bernie as a journalist is quite bigoted…but I can also see he’s a good guy who just might be interested in some of the things I’ve written.
            I like contributing to a site that I disagree with. I especially enjoy a civilized debate with a hard rightee.
            now calm down and show some journalistic self-respect and quit trying to harass posters with whom you disagree. please use my e-mail for further contacts, if you cannot control yourself.

      • legal eagle

        According to Goldberg, the “low information” voters will vote for Hillary as opposed to the geniuses on the right who vote Republican? I guess you are a “high information” voter if you watch Fox News?….LOL

        • John Daly

          Look up the term. It’s all over the Internet. Until you do, you’re just making yourself look more foolish. It has nothing to do with which political party you belong to.

  • brendan horn

    There are so many predictable media strategies to get Hillary elected. Any time someone asks her a difficult question the media will write or say that that questions was only asked because she is a woman. People will be intimidated into not challenging her at all for fear of being called a sexist. The republican candidate will have a real difficult time because the media will double down on the pathetic accusation that Republicans are at war with women (the first zero casualty war). It would take a special Republican candidate to beat Hillary. That being said, she would be an improvement over the current administration.

  • Kathie Ampela

    Did you catch the NYT article this week on the Clinton Foundation or the Maureen Dowd op ed? Even the democrats are unconvinced that Hillary can win. The argument laid out by the Daily Beast columnist rings completely false. There are tons and tons of low information voters out there for sure, but Mr & Mrs Driveby America decide general elections. These are the people who watch Dancing With The Stars for 4 years and then suddenly tune in a month or two before election day. You really think they will warm up to Hillary, really? The fairly high polls Hillary has right now indicates a vague nostalgia America has for the 90′s, they aren’t really giving 2016 any serious thought right now. The flavor of the month factor will be in serious play in 2016 and the GOP has the competitive edge. You really think Driveby America will want Bill Clinton looking way, way past his prime back again for a third term? Do even low information voters want all the scandals all over again…not to mention the albatross of HillaryCare? No, you are way off on this one Bernie. America has a chance to be rid of the Clintons and start over and I think that’s the way they will go.

    • cephasalpha

      You don’t know how much I hope you’re right.

    • I Hate Fascists

      Mr & Mrs Driveby America?!! That is really catchy!!! Did you think of that yourself?!!

  • EddieD_Boston

    Right now I wish she was my president. That way Obama wouldn’t be. Think about it. As much as she’s a liberal, she’s not stupid. Hillary would work with republicans and she’d accomplish things. Like Bill did. Obama has no inclination to think there is a middle ground. The guy is so stupid he’s dangerous.

    • ph16

      Yeah no doubt Hillary will make a better president than the current POTUS. She seems to be more tougher skinned and less likely to declare war on Fox News or any of her other opponents.

      • EddieD_Boston

        I agree with your point about her being more thick skinned. I didn’t think of that but it’s another difference for sure. The guy is cool? Is being a petulant child cool now? Heaven help us.

        • John Daly

          I think most Republicans would choose Hillary over Obama… but that’s more because of how low Obama has set the bar than anything else. ;)

    • legal eagle

      No one can “work” with the right wing nut jobs in Congress…They don’t believe in compromise…They are ideologues not legislators…

      • ph16

        Newsflash, the Democrats are just as ideological as Republicans.

        • legal eagle

          Did you get this information from Fox News?

          • Susan Anthony

            *Yawn* You just keep banging the same tattered drum. Sadly for us and fortunately for you, most voters are idiots. Why don’t you run for office?

          • ph16

            No I get this from the fact that every human has an ideology and because both Republicans and Democrats are human, they are ideological. Being ideological is not a bad thing in of itself.

          • EddieD_Boston

            No. I think he just opens his eyes and his mind.

      • alegalcitizen

        What Nonsense, WHICH Dems. worked with Pres. Bush??
        So the left wing nuts were WORSE in my book!

        • legal eagle

          Ted Kennedy on No Child Left Behind, Hillary Clinton on supporting the Iraq War etc etc etc,

      • EddieD_Boston

        All those open-minded democrats like Pelosi and Reid? Come on, you’re better than that.

        • legal eagle

          Am open minded legislator is one who will compromise…The Senate has compromised many times in the pat 5 years….How do you think the immigration bill passed the Senate? It wasn’t because Harry Reid wont compromise…Republicans are far more ideological than Dems…

          • Raptormann

            I haven’t seen this much fertilizer since “Bandini Mountain.”

          • legal eagle

            Is that the name of the street you live on, Bandini Mountain?

          • Raptormann

            No, but I hear you ski there!

      • Jeff Webb

        Say,were both of Obama’s SCOTUS picks confirmed?
        When Obama wanted to hike taxes for only the rich, did the law pass?
        Did Jack Lew, John Kerry, Chuck Hagel, and others get appointed to the posts Obama wanted?
        Could any of this happened if the Republicans truly “don’t believe in compromise?”

        • legal eagle

          That’s sure a lot of compromise…..I know your not serious but I appreciate your attempt at humor…

          • Jeff Webb

            You said, unequivocally, that they don’t believe in compromise. I showed examples to the contrary. You think being a little smartass now undoes your stupid claim? (BTW, despite your “etc etc etc” earlier, you sure as heck didn’t establish “a lot of compromise” either.)
            Look, Kiddo, either think before you type or leave the goalpost where it is when you get embarrassed. You might not agree with me, but you know I’m not stupid.

          • legal eagle

            So you call the record number of filibusters in the Senate over the past four years “compromise”? I said they don’t believe in compromise…I didn’t say they never compromise…..OBJECTION OVERRULED…

          • Jeff Webb

            Right, changing the standard to “a lot of compromise” didn’t work, so now it’s “well, I didn’t exactly say that technically. Again, STOP MOVING THE GOALPOST! You ever get tired of being embarrassed?

            I’ll be very kind and say that both Obama and President Bush had plenty of opposition. Now I’ll break it to you: Bush deserved far better than he got from the democrats, and Hilary’s (nor anyone other democrat’s) support of the war is not an example of compromise. She was in full agreement! So congrats on your ONE example (which as a favor to you I won’t review to see just how much Kennedy showed he believed in compromise) and all those etceteras.

            The whole “obstructionist Republicans” line actually misses a major point. The president is not supposed to propose anything at odds with the Constitution. When that does happen, Congress’ job IS to block it! And, the president isn’t allowed to pick and choose the laws he enforces, no matter if he thinks it’s the moral thing to do.

            Obama has shown contempt for our country’s laws, including the #1 law. The Republicans haven’t obstructed enough.

          • legal eagle

            More ideological B.S…..Like talking to a member of a cult….just keeps regurgitating talking points….

          • Jeff Webb

            Oooh, now you’re name-calling. Y’know, it would’ve been so much easier if you had just thought it through before you posted another falsehood about Reps.

            >>More ideological B.S…..Like talking to a member of a cult….just keeps regurgitating talking points<<

            Show me the consideration I showed you, and point out any part of what I said that isn't true. And you should avoid posting stuff like "No one can "work" with the right wing nut jobs in Congress…" and "…the record number of filibusters in the Senate over the past four years" if you're going to act like you don't like talking points.

          • legal eagle

            I said no one can work…I didn’t say it’s impossible. If I say that lightening wont strike that doesn’t mean it’s impossible….There have been a record number of filibusters in the Senate…Look it up…

          • Jeff Webb

            >>I said no one can work…I didn’t say it’s impossible. If I say that lightening wont strike that doesn’t mean it’s impossible<>There have been a record number of filibusters in the Senate…Look it up…<<

            This is exactly why I asked you to point out where I posted something untrue. Colloquially, "talking point" does not automatically mean "falsehood."

            You really can't handle people pointing out when you're wrong or mistaken, can you? What are you going to try next? "Look, squirrel!"?