Don’t Blame the Media For Not Pursuing News Stories… Blame Republicans!

karen-finneyThe other day, MSNBC’s Karen Finney was on her network discussing the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups. After spending some time unsurprisingly downplaying the story’s significance, she attempted to validate her cavalier take on the controversy by stating the following:

“Everybody knew about this investigation long before the election. So, if they [Republicans] were that freaked out, why didn’t Romney make more of a big deal of it during the election?”

As the National Journal’s Ron Fournier quickly pointed out, Finney’s premise was false. While Darrell Issa and others in Congress were indeed aware of a potential investigation last year, there were no facts made available from the investigation prior to the 2012 election. The investigation itself wasn’t even confirmed until a couple of weeks ago. Thus, it’s pretty ridiculous for someone to claim that “everybody” knew about it, when very few people actually did.

This column isn’t about Finney’s inaccuracy, however. After all, that kind of thing isn’t all that surprising coming from an MSNBC host. No, this column is about the mindset Finney seems to share with several of her media colleagues.

Over the past nine months or so, we’ve seen an odd initiative set forth by journalists and commentators to justify the news media’s lack of interest in legitimate stories (specifically those surrounding Obama administration scandals) by criticizing how Republican politicians have reacted to those stories.

This kind of thing was particularly apparent during the early months of the Benghazi story. Initially, presidential candidate Mitt Romney was skewered by the media for having the nerve to publicly comment on the attack during the presidential campaign. They deemed his remarks to be shameless and politically-motivated. Disturbingly, Romney’s reaction to the Benghazi attack invoked more passion from the media than the actual murder of four American patriots in Benghazi did. Thus, it was somehow deemed acceptable to let the attack become a secondary story from the onset. The media’s loyalty toward President Obama kept it there – largely out of the mainstream headlines until just recently.

Interestingly, after Obama won re-election, some liberal commentators (including Fox News Channel’s Bob Beckel) began rationalizing the media’s continued lack of interest in the story by pointing to Romney’s failure to bring up the topic during the third and final presidential debate. In other words, if Romney didn’t make Benghazi a story, it didn’t deserve to be a story.

Now, I understand the assertion that Romney could have drawn more attention to the Benghazi scandal had he continued to bring up the topic during the presidential campaign. That may be true. But this notion that it was somehow Romney’s responsibility to play the role of a news producer and guide reporters through the duties of their jobs is absurd. Aside from the fact that it wouldn’t have worked (only Democrats are allowed to create mainstream media narratives), what Romney said or didn’t say should have had no bearing whatsoever on how Benghazi was covered.

Comedian Jon Stewart recently blamed the right for the media’s disinterest in Benghazi as well. On his Comedy Central show, Stewart suggested that the mainstream media would have taken the story seriously earlier on, had it not been the Fox News Channel who was pushing it hard for several months. His implication was that Fox often cries wolf when it comes to criticizing the Obama administration, thus it was understandable for other media outlets not to the follow their lead. Translation: Because Fox treated the story with heavy scrutiny, the rest of the media was right to keep its distance.

I know… It’s confusing. It’s almost as if the media took note of how successful President Obama has been at blaming Republicans for his failures, so they’re using the same strategy to explain away their own failures.

But honestly… I don’t think they’re that self-aware. I think they truly believe they’re offering up a valid defense.

Silly me. All this time, I was of the crazy impression that news organizations were supposed to function independently of the will of politicians, political interests, and other media outlets. I realize that in reality, our current media culture doesn’t quite work that way. Journalists play favorites, and bias (both subtle and blatant) exists everywhere. But I think we’ve broken new, disturbing ground when people in the media are actually comfortable justifying their omissions of valid news stories by pointing to their displeasure with the people who would prefer those stories be covered.

It should never matter who is fueling (or not fueling) a story. If a story is legitimate, it should be covered. If serious questions aren’t being answered by those in power, journalists should remain diligent in pursuing those answers. And if people in the media are using politicians’ behavior as a determinate for whether or not they should do their jobs, they have no business being in the profession in the first place.

Author Bio:

John Daly couldn't have cared less about world events and politics until the horrific 9/11 terrorist attacks changed his perspective. Since then, he's been deeply engaged in the news of the day with a particular interest in how that news is presented. Realizing the importance of the media in a free, democratic society, John has long felt compelled to identify media injustices when he sees them. With a B.S. in Business Administration, and a 16 year background in software and web development, John has found that his real passion is for writing. His first novel, entitled "From a Dead Sleep", is now on sale! He lives in Northern Colorado with his wife and two children. Like John on Facebook. Follow John on Twitter.
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  • buckrodgers

    I could never understand what makes liberals so special, when a white liberal like Bill Mahr or Ed Shultz insults women it’s defended by the liberal community, when the insult comes for a conservative he’s condemned as a sexist, the same thing goes for race, what gives a white liberal who lives their personal life like a Louisiana Klansman the right to label another white a racist, if conservatives are racist then liberals and progressive are closet racist who pander to African Americans and other minorities in order to maintain the white liberal master race they have created.

  • allen goldberg

    Candy Crowley knew exactly what see was doing. as did all of the media who have provided air cover for this POS in the White House…on every scandal, every story…

  • John Havlicek

    I’m not at all sure of what “the answer” ought to be here. Mitt Romney’s failure to compose himself (he looked somewhat like the proverbial deer caught in the headlights) when Candy Crowley not only joined the debate (!), but did so with what we know to be a clearly innaccurate statement, certainly didn’t do his presidential aspirations any good. Having said that, Romney should have kept at Beghazi like a bull terrier. Showing that kind of backbone, even in the face of a decidedly losided media, would have at least cemented his image as a “stick to your principles” guy. Let’s face it, a good deal of what keeps the Democratic narrative going, is sheer chutzpah. The mind-tweakingly-disingenuous (in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary) statements that come from the mouth of Jay Carney (and other Administration “spokesdroids”) seem to actually gain credibility with a good portion of the public just by repetition.

    Here’s another factor that the Republicans really ought to tear apart every chance they get, but that I see precious-little attention paid to…the smarmy charge they are “politicizing” an issue. What on earth does this even mean? Every “issue” has political ramifications, regardless of who brings it up…or in the passive, ignores it. Back on Benghazi, besides Mr Romney being attacked for having the gall to mention it during the campaign, he was excoriated (along with anyone else who wanted to know the truth) for “politicizing” the attack. Of course…NOT wanting the facts to come out (again, ostensibly because of the potential for significantly affecting the election’s outcome) during the campaign is the very definition of “politicizing” the attack. Certainly, and not surprisingly, calls to hold full investigations after the elections, have led to only more obfuscation and moire unanswered questions. Even the (then) Secretary of State’s most famous response since the attacks was a (with full feigned righteous indignation) shout of “what difference does it make?”. Considering she said this during her testimony at a hearing specifically aimed at uncovering precisely “what difference it all makes”, it ought to have made the committee’s members heads explode, let alone the public’s.

    So fast forward to the IRS-Conservative-Targeting “problem” (Administration officials and supporters object to using the word “scandal”). This gets short-shrifted as merely low-level functionaries trying to be “efficient”, but with never the slightest hint of a “political motivation”. Thanks goodness those good folks didn;t want to…OOPS!…”politicize” the problem. Of course, whatever heads hadn’t already exploded over Benghazi (along with “Fast & Furious”, the “voter intimidation” case and others), probably blew simultaneously like the Rokettes on C4 when the obvious didn’t get stated: “if only one particular group got this treatment, while the group philosophically opposed to them did not, the action is by definition “political and politically-motivated”. “If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, we don’t need to do a DNA analysis to see if it really is a duck (although Washington probably would do one anyway).

    We can all take heart (irony intended) that there have been some slight signs of intelligent life from the Press over the DOJ/Holder handling of that Mr Holder, in his own self-serving attempt at self-preservation called some of the most threatening leaks he’s ever seen (boy…there’s an apparent whopper of biblical proportions!). Certainly any outrage has been tempered/mitigated by some of this having been aimed at Fox reporter James Rosen…after all, he works for Fox! I figure than no heads exploded over proof of Mr Holder’s…er…truth-shading during his testimony to Congress simply because there were none left to explode. We’re now in the midst of a Clintonian …”what the meaning of “is” is…” episode where people are going through all sorts of intellectual gymnastics to see if any parsing of Mr Holder’s statement could serve to support it’s veracity. I don’t think it takes nearly so much creativity to imagine how “Joe Citizen” would be handled having made the same kind of statement. Of course, Jay Carney is simply playing the “alternate reality” part here by flatly stating that (aside from the President fully supporting AG Holder), his statements are fully supported by his previous actions! You just can’t make this stuff up.

    We live in a time when the media is not only obviously and purposely playing the role of the Administration’s PR firm, they do it with unabashed openness…even pride. The founders saw the media as one of the most important protectors of the nation’s liberty, and one can only wonder at how they might react to how things have developed. The only course of action I can see the Republicans and other conservatives taking in the face of all this, is to be courageous. Point out the facts, hit back every time some automaton speaks of “politicizing” and simply appeal to whatever logic may still be out there.

  • plsilverman

    is Fox in the tank as RNC Campaign Headquarters since 01-20-09?

  • Lamer

    This administration has succeeded in becoming what they hate the most. Political. All they wanted to do was come into Washington and show them how the bullies do it in Chicago. The only problem with that is, Chicago is a waste land of poverty, drugs and crime. All of which can be attributed to the Liberal way of thinking. That is not thinking. If they used their brains they would have avoided all these scandals and never came to Washington. They could have hid out in Chicago forever. I for one would never have looked for any of them there..Or any where to be honest..

  • plsilverman

    WRONG. Obama delivered a 3.8 to 4.4 TRILLION $$$$$ deficit reduction package, incl. big cuts to the big 3 – and Tea party John threw the envelope into the circular file. Re. the debt – Obama is unfortunately spending at the rate Reagan and Bush II did. He arrived at 1600 and found an 11+ TRILLION $$$ debt in a heap in the Rose Garden. The INTEREST alone on that debt has been about 4 trillion dollars. Plus he’s had stuff like, U know, unfunded wars, unfunded tax relief relief for those who have zero need for it.

  • plsilverman

    name dropping of …who? (yes, I have a bad crush on Laura I. very sexy woman). I did watch them every nite for about 11 years and occasionally switch over to them..the way I like to smell milk on its’ way to the garbage can.

  • http://www.facebook.com/thinmangone Jimmy Cooper

    The saddest part of all this John is Ms. Finney and a great deal more of her colleagues truly believe in the way they are reporting these stories! Because this is how they’ve been taught to look at Libs and Conservatives!

    • John Daly

      I think that’s true. It’s a byproduct of living in a liberal bubble.

      • plsilverman

        I guess we all choose our own bubble. like say Foxnews, Drudge, Limbaugh.

        • allen goldberg

          there you go again PS, embarrassing yourself

          • plsilverman

            can you be more specific? :)

  • jq2intx

    Well, there are enough trolls on this comment list to have it be knee deep in BS. If the Obama administration had a clue about truth, it would not be so deep in its own mess. And now we are about to see an AG investigate himselfr? Please, let us at least be honest enough to admit that this administration has lied and cheated its way to this point in time. We still don’t have all the facts about Fast and Furious, why do we expect them to be forthcoming now? The AG lied to Congress, he didn’t know anything about the investigation of reporters, then it comes out that he personally signed the request for a tap on emails of a fox news reporter. Why has the congress not started proceedings to impeach this lying sack?
    Also, Hillary was in charge of the State Dept. and yet claims she new nothing? Sgt. Schultz would be proud. These people are the worst bunch of bullies, liars, and hypocrites I have ever seen, even Nixon was not as bad as these guys. At least in his stupidity no one died. So far we have a couple of border patrol agents, an ambassador and 3 employees and several innocent people who have been killed by Islamic Terrorists, from Ft. Hood to Benghazi, and from the Mexican Drug Cartels to Al Qaeda. Don’t kid yourselves, the Mexican Cartels are being trained by Hamas. That has been reported too. So Liberals/Socialists don’t worry, sooner or later the Terrorists will get around to you.

    • plsilverman

      ok, what’s the truth about this adm.? Obama was not born here? what? can you elaborate?

      • John Daly

        Phil “6.3%” Silverman,

        He DID elaborate. You completely ignored his post to obsess over Birthers again. Why?

        • plsilverman

          saying that F & F, Benghazi, AP, IRS “scandals” have “truth” (to show Obama himself directed any anti-American actions thereof) is of no use. He just listed the same old wish list. I do not obsess over Birthers any more than you obsess about Obama the Impeachable. “Birthers” do symbolize what happened to the once Grand Ol’ Party. Now it’s Koch-funded kids reciting Birch.

  • Drew Page

    I remember distinctly how Obama mocked Romney for saying the attack on the Benghazi was a terrorist attack. “Ready, fire, aim” I believe was the phrase that Obama used. Obama, the genius, on the other hand decided to withhold judgement until “all the facts from the investigation were in” . He wouldn’t want to announce a terrorist attack on an American embassy right before his re-election; not after declaring “bin Laden was dead and al Qaeda was on the run.” Well, here we are in late May, some eight months later, “the investigation” still goes on, Jay Carney says “Benghazi was a long time ago”. After eight months of “investigation” we still can’t seem to find out who told Susan Rice to go on five news shows and tell the world the “protest” in Benghazi was due to an anti-Muslim video. We can’t find out why requests for additional security were turned down and who exactly issued the order to rescue troops in Tripoli to stand down. Hillary has cleared up the whole matter by telling investigators “what difference does it make”?
    Hillary gets a pass for being derelict in her duty and lying to Congress. Mitt Romney was right and gets pilloried by Obama and his team of nitwits.

  • horseshoe 1975

    Hard to believe that anyone actually believes we have a 6.3% unemployment rate. The Obama administration doesn’t even make that claim. People that are in the private sector know the games that are being played with the employment numbers. If you are in an industry that sells to other businesses you know that unemployment spiked dramatically when Obama was elected. You also know that the uncertainties of mandated healthcare caused businesses to dump employees. Many businesses that I deal with just decided to close their doors.
    When the Obama administration talks about how the economy was in a free-fall
    when they took office, they technically are correct, but they were a large part of the free-fall. Business owners that I know all saw what we are headed for and unfortunately, the worst part is still ahead of us.

    • John Daly

      >>Hard to believe that anyone actually believes we have a 6.3% unemployment rate.

      He makes up a lot of stuff.

      • legal eagle

        Do you think they changed the way unemployment statistics were calculated in 2009? Do you know how many people work “off the books”?
        These type of nonsensical comments is why I don’t believe you do any research or fact finding when writing your blog.
        If you’d like to check the facts I can tell you where to look but somehow I don’t really believe the facts are important to you or your readers.

        • John Daly

          What are you talking about?

          The unemployment rate is calculated by how many people are collecting unemployment benefits.

          When people max out on unemployment benefits, but still haven’t found a job, they’re no longer factored into the rate, despite not being employed.

          The workforce participation rate calculates the percentage of Americans who are actually working. It has been at an all-time low under Obama and has stayed there. Fewer people in this country are working today than at any time during the Bush administration.

          I know I probably hurt your feelings by earlier pointing out that what you were saying was ‘nonsensical’ (because it was), so you’re trying the “I know you are but what am I?” rebuttal. Please try something original.

          What I’m saying is absolutely true. Anyone who has bothered to research that information would know that.

          • legal eagle

            The unemployment rate is calculated based upon many factors including seasonal workers, farm vs. non farm employment etc. I realize you only believe that the stats are wrong when a Dem is in office but in a cyclical economy the only effect the government has on employment is its ability to spend and to hire.

          • John Daly

            Your words, dude… Not mine.

            They are indeed calculated the same way for every administration. I never said they weren’t. You created some straw-man argument.

            What I said is that fewer people are working under Obama than Bush. That’s a fact.

          • legal eagle

            Less people are working because there are a) less manufacturing jobs and b) the US population is getting older and more people no longer want to or can work.
            BTW did you work with that dear old commie/socialist Ed Asner?

          • John Daly

            Are these supposed to be excuses in defense of Obama?

            Less manufacturing jobs? Why? High taxes and over-regulation making it far less expensive to manufacture abroad?

            Less people ‘wanting’ to work? Why? Because they’re on the government dole? Because they’ve given up on trying to find a job?

            Less people that ‘can’ work? Why? Why are more people ‘unable’ to work than under Bush?

            Older people dropping out of the workforce to retire? Why are recent college graduates having such a hard time filling those empty job positions then?

            Explain to me why Bush is responsible for high unemployment at the tail end of his second term, but Obama isn’t responsible for chronically high unemployment for nearly five years now?

          • legal eagle

            I am stating facts not making excuses. During the eight years of the Bush Administration private sector job growth was virtually non existent. The only jobs created under Bush were government jobs including the TSA, Homeland Security etc..
            Are you telling me that the massive job losses in 2009 were Obama’s fault? Do you think the economy is like a ball game and every time a new POTUS takes office a new game starts?

          • John Daly

            Complete BS. What you’re pulling is the same bologna that a lot of you lefties pull.

            You’re taking the state of the economy that went down during the final months of the Bush administration (the Great Recession) and completely disregarding the unprecedented economic growth and long run of very low unemployment in this country that occurred over more than seven and a half years under Bush.

            That would be like me judging Obama’s economic performance based entirely on his first few months in office, and not the past five years.

            Of course the 2009 job losses weren’t Obama’s fault. The fact that we’ve had the slowest economic recovery in nearly a century (worse than the Great Depression), however, IS largely his fault.

            >>Do you think the economy is like a ball game and every time a new POTUS takes office a new game starts?

            Of course not. Do you lib-trolls actually ever argue the points that people are making, or do you just constantly make up your own opposing arguments so you can debate with yourselves and feel smart?

          • BrianFruman

            John legal eagle must be an attorney. He probably has been through the Harvard School of Communist Law or some Liberal establishment. Arguing with someone like this is a lost cause. Lawyers don’t know anything about the economy or business.They know one thing billable hours, I have been involved in the markets since I was a kid. My grandfather founded and ran the 3rd largest steel stud manufacturer in the country worked till his was 82 built from ground up in the 50′s to over a 100 million dollar business with 600 employees in 5 states at the time of his death 13 yrs ago. I run a tech business now and times are tough but am seeking opportunities in other countries like Brazil right now. Anyone that tells me business is booming doesn’t have any perspective of market history.

          • John Daly

            Only the giants are ‘booming’ right now. Small businesses… not so much.

            Thanks for weighing in. It’s always good to hear from people from the business world who understand economics.

          • plsilverman

            giants booming? that’s very much the “norm” isn’t it? if there’s blockage of the small business owner and small, neighborhoods banks, then it’s the GOP doing the blocking. they work hand-in-glove with the corporate raiders and the Chamber of Commerce who did not exactly discourage stimulus $$$$ winding up in Swiss banks.

          • plsilverman

            ooh, ooh, ooh, Lib Lawyer! East coast!!! legal eagle…..what can U possibly say in your…”defense”?

          • BrianFruman

            Well I am per se against Lawyers there are many in my Family both conservative and liberal. So if I offended in some way I am sorry. However doctors and lawyers traditional outside the realm of things like manufacturing and business have pretty bad track records in understanding the complex macros of the world economy or how things work outside of a service related profession. Apple does things for a reason it is all about effect management and keeping up to date they just lost a patent suit against Samsung suing them now. So they are competeting against Samsung and open source google android mobile os. Google makes most of their revenue of adword mobile advertising and then there is microsoft coming out with the first intel/ x86 uniform UI windows 8. Do these things mean nothing to an understanding of the landscape of business out there? Look i have traded and run a technnology business, worked in steel manufacturing and yes there is a difference in their understanding of how everything. I am a toss up which is worse both are software of manufacturing both are challenging. The issue with apple is they have to deal with both because they literally do it all.

          • veeper

            yep…

            they constantly make up their own opposing arguments.

          • plsilverman

            got an example? :)

          • John Daly

            Other than the example we’re all replying to?

          • plsilverman

            yes. give us the “whole 9 yards”…………

          • plsilverman

            “trolls”? you must be getting paid to write better than…”trolls”. give an example of a “Lib” here making some thing up. ( I already explained how I did not “make up” my erroneous 6.3 statement). Ok…give us the most egregious and typical “conjure”. :)

          • legal eagle

            With all due respect you have no clue about the economics of business…Are you serious when you tell me that Apple manufactures its phones and I Pads in China for any other reason than ultra cheap labor costs? I think it’s getting late and you’re becoming slightly irrational…..LOL

          • John Daly

            I majored in business, kid, and have been intimately involved in the running of businesses for many years.

            Of course Apple does their manufacturing overseas because it’s ultra cheap. A lot of companies do.

            I’m saying that if our government didn’t have the highest corporate tax rate in the world, and made this country cheaper to manufacture in, more of those jobs would come back to this country. There’s nothing ‘irrational’ about that.

          • BrianFruman

            There are other reasons Jobs never would produce Apple products here. He could not scale up or scale down manufacturing for demand changes. Essentially he would have had unions controlling everything and your iphone 5 would be 2 yrs late, 1 billion over budget and if the next version didn’t sell you would be paying for all union employee benefits for the rest of their life.

          • John Daly

            True, Brian. When unions and government make the cost of doing business in America incredibly expensive, we shouldn’t be surprised when American companies do their manufacturing elsewhere.

          • plsilverman

            they go overseas to pay .50 per hr. those are big companies that go overseas and they can bury their higher taxes.

          • plsilverman

            high taxes not being able to pay .50 cents per hour is the reason for outsourcing? ha! WHY ARE THEY *ON* THE DOLE? the GOP war on bluecollar I mentioned above is the main reason. yeah, all of a sudden, that 47% decided to be lazy…those who lost their jobs to Bain, who lost their teaching, police, fire fighter jobs to Republican governors, those who fight the manufactured wars such as Iraq and Vietnam. Bush was losing 7 to 800, 000 per month and at one six month period lost 4 million jobs. Obama adm. worse than that? no way.

          • veeper

            you do realize the “Age of Accountability” stopped in Janurary 2009, don’t you.

            Nothing is obama’s fault…..by Executive order.

          • plsilverman

            Was there accountability in the Cheney-Bush adm? Maybe…just ask the slam-dunkers.

          • plsilverman

            The unusually high unemployment is mostly due to GOP practices since 01-20-09.

          • John Daly

            lol. Shameless.

          • plsilverman

            wanna explain why, to us nice folks? I guess you believe there has been no systematic, partisan blocking of blue collar since 01-09?

          • legal eagle

            When people get off unemployment how does the government know whether they have a job, don’t want to work or are working off the books?

          • John Daly

            How do they know? People fill out new tax forms when they regain employment.

            People didn’t want to work, and worked off the books under Bush too. Why is this only now a consideration under Obama, when it wasn’t a consideration under Bush?

          • legal eagle

            So you believe that the federal government has the computer power and personnel to match up whether people who have finished collecting unemployment go to work based upon their tax returns? Are you kidding?

          • John Daly

            Not tax returns… tax forms. Whenever you start work for a company, perform contract work, start your own business, etc… you fill out tax forms.

            I’m not trying to be sarcastic, but you’ve had a job before, right?

            It has nothing to do with “matching people up”. It has to do with raw numbers. It’s the same measure we’ve used for decades. It’s not perfect, but it’s consistent.

            You can make as many excuses as you like, but the workforce participation rate is at an all-time low under Obama, and his policies will continue to do nothing to reverse that.

          • legal eagle

            You’re taking the state of the economy that went down during the final months of the Bush administration (the Great Recession) and completely disregarding the unprecedented economic growth and long run of very low unemployment in this country that occurred over more than seven and a half years under Bush…..

            Can you cite the basis for the claim of unprecedented job growth?

          • John Daly

            Unprecedented ECONOMIC growth… not unprecedented job growth.

            Again, you’re making up your own opposing argument.

          • legal eagle

            You are right I misquoted you…..So tell me when there was unprecedented economic growth?

          • plsilverman

            your last sentence is amazing to me. is that what is popping around the RNC coffee room?

          • John Daly

            What’s amazing about it? It’s not like I claimed a 6.3% unemployment rate.

          • veeper

            Looks like you’re being stalked and harassed.

            although liberals only consider it harassment when repubs respond to comments.

            when dems harass it’s only responding to comments.

          • plsilverman

            how about one example, re. Dems “harassment”?

          • veeper

            one example…..

            YOU !!

          • plsilverman

            there is always an “under-employment rate” and both sides of the aisle milk that. by the way, do you think that sending back stimulus money, encouraging governors to decline on infrastructure contracts, and corporate raiding away American jobs factors into the Obama unemployment #?

      • plsilverman

        ok..tell us what it is and what is your source? I assume you have sources I could not have at this point.

      • plsilverman

        “he makes up a lot of stuff” is more character assassination – from a guy who should know that verbally attacking someone who replies to editorials is an inappropriate thing to do. instead of giggling harassment, go point by point…I’m eager to learn.

        • John Daly

          You didn’t ‘make up’ a 6.3% unemployment rate?

          • plsilverman

            no and your harassment of me here is getting noticed. please cease and desist.

          • plsilverman

            I did not “make up” that 6.3% and I resent and am frankly mystified that you would say a poster makes things up. I sense you still do not believe that I DID NOT call anyone a racist here or any other place (since about 1968). Is that driving your anger against me on this site? My 6.3% was very wrong as a national figure..I heard a local report (of a huge CA county) probably too close to my bedtime. yes, I’m a little embarrassed that I didn’t google that. Fine. tell your friends. but the current national rate, which is over 7% is said to be expected to stay around there for a while. still much better than the 9.1% or whatever it was.

        • veeper

          no you are not eager to learn….

          you’re eager to make childish nonsensical comments on an internet forum.

    • legal eagle

      Unemployment spiked drastically in 2008 when Bush was still in office. Do you think the U.S. economy starts from ground zero every 4 years…Get a clue…

      • Paul Courtney

        Hey, eagle, before you get into thick weeds discussing employment stats (oops, too late), can you update us on the investigation into that awful $300m. cut by house Rs to State Dep’t security? OK with you if John Boehner does the investigation?

      • USA Rocks

        But, Obama was supposed to fix it, right? http://www.timeanddate.com has some nice calculators to compute the number of days between 1/20/09 and today.

      • Martin Monti

        I think many people saw Obama was going to ride the wave right into the white House and planned accordingly

        • legal eagle

          Interesting theory…..I would hope you don’t say that out loud otherwise you could be committed to a mental institution…LOL

  • 1940voter

    John: Keep the wheels spinning and the truth coming forth. Less the msm will right you off as a wacko

    • plsilverman

      MSM over since the internet. It’s a conversation piece. internet is NEUTRAL.

  • 1940voter

    The majority of Americans get their news from the msm or some form of local print media. It is only recently that cable news has dominated the airwaves and more Americans are now following these stories with an increased amount of attention.If you watch the local news programs ,one can see the basis of the stations owners and how the news is reported. Talk radio and cable will hopefully bring the truth to the American people,if you wait for msnbc you will be dead on arrival.

    • plsilverman

      the TRUTH! Via Alex Jones, Drudge, Jerome Corsi, Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham, Hannity, Beck, Gutfeld, The American Rifleman (had to toss that in the mix)!

  • potvin

    The MSM has zero legitimacy. Why is this article giving it any?

    • John Daly

      You think my column is lending legitimacy to the MSM? Really?

    • plsilverman

      MSM (as a news/opinion source) is over since the internet.

  • Paul Courtney

    John: 152 comments, wow! Must have been a good column, don’t know, I only read the headline. From the troll booth, I gather the column was about the progressive press, since Mr. Silverman is denying its existence. Anyway, legal eaglet wants to know what the Fox news investigation of Benghazi turned up, glad you asked. From CNN coverage in Sept., Fox learned real time that Benghazi was not a protest like Cairo but an armed assault in stages, w/ mortar fire, and it had been bombed in June ’12. AC360 covered all this well, if you’d watched you, like Fox, would have known in late Sept. that S. Rice lied to nation, and (despicably) Obama and Hillary lied to families of deceased on tarmac (the lie part, AC360 didn’t cover quite so well). I could go on, but you won’t get it. Let’s see if there’s an angle to this YOU want investigated, by whoever-Nancy Pelosi claims R congress cut funding for embassy security prior to this “protest”, aren’t you curious if that’s true? How about that middle-roader, silverman, don’t you want “press” to look into that scandal? Why don’t they cover that?

    • John Daly

      Hi Paul,

      Yeah, I must admit that the comment count on some of my recent pieces is as high as it is because I undertook the pointless of exercise of bothering to dispell the myths held by some of the regular hecklers.

      I should have known better. There are certain types of people who just don’t care about facts, and are proud and willful in their ignorance. A real shame.

      Engaging in a battle of truth with unarmed opponents results in no winners.

      BTW, Great opening summary of Benghazi. Sad that it even needs to be re-iterated at this point.

      • plsilverman

        ok. share with us the “facts” about Barack Obama’s directives re. Benghazi.

  • FloridaJim

    A journalist pursues the news in an unbiased fashion. Our reporters are not journalists they are fawns for Obama. Our country is falling fast and Obama is the reason along with the 60′s radicals everywhere who have fouled up everything they once were for.

  • plsilverman

    terrifuic clichés: “minions”, “lies”……you have zero proof any lies from Obama since 01-20-09. All I get here is that the AFCA meetings were not telecast piece by piece. yeah, big lie.

  • plsilverman

    you KNOW about MSNBC? have you ever watched their supposed “balance”, Fox? ever see the hoax videos by O’Keefe and Breitbart that we are all supposed to get all fuzzy wuzzy about? Read THE FOX EFFECT and see the DVD, Outfoxed!

  • Mike Stokes

    The Republicans not only have a democrat politician to run against, it also has to run against the liberal news media. They are vicious and have no sense of fairness or legality in their attacks.

    • BenDoubleCrossed

      The art of politics is controlling a segment of people without those people recognizing they are being managed. Because the 1st Amendment prohibits abridging freedoms of speech and press, campaign laws exempt commercial media but regulate grass roots communications. Thereby Americans are robbed of fair elections.

      The Press Exemption reads: 2 USC 431 (9) (B) The term “expenditure” does not include (i) any news story, commentary, or editorial distributed through the facilities of any broadcasting station, newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication, unless such facilities are owned or controlled by any political party, political committee, or candidate;

      Giant media corporations are allowed to raise and spend unlimited amounts of money influencing the political process because their political communications are said to have no value.

      But there is no difference between a newspaper or network endorsing a candidate or issue and a PAC, 527 or 501 corporations doing the same. Editorials and slanted news stories are merely State approved violations of unconstitutional campaign laws that abridge the rights of citizens to participate.

      This is contrary to the 1st Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      To restore citizens 1st Amendment rights and return the Federal Government to Constitutionally proscribed boundaries, Call your Senators and Congressman and demand they add ‘citizens and citizen’s groups’ to the language of the press exemption.

      Conservative groups should consider incorporating as media periodicals to circumvent most unconstitutional campaign laws, rather than applying to the IRS for non-profit status to avoid a few.

      • legal eagle

        Didn’t know you were a constitutional scholar….Get a clue…

        • BenDoubleCrossed

          The 1st Amendment denies Congress authority to abridge citizens’ rights: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

          Abridge – to deprive of privileges, rights, etc.

          Kentucky Bill of Rights

          Section 1

          All men are, by nature, free and equal, and have certain inherent and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned:

          Second: The right of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences.

          Fourth: The right of freely
          communicating their thoughts and opinions.

          Sixth: The right of assembling together in a peaceable manner for their common good, and of applying to those invested with the power of government for redress of grievances or other proper purposes, by petition, address or remonstrance.

          Section 8
          Printing presses shall be free to every person who
          undertakes to examine the proceedings of the General Assembly or any branch of government, and no law shall ever be made to restrain the right thereof. Every
          person may freely and fully speak, write and print on any subject, being responsible for the abuse of that liberty.

          • plsilverman

            how about the Right to hold slaves and discriminate?. point: it’s a flexible document.

          • BenDoubleCrossed

            The shortest definition of law is fixed.

            The Constitution is not a living document: it includes an Amendment process!

            If Congressmen and Senators took their oaths of office seriously, they would make sure new laws comply with the founding document or take the issue to the States and the people for ratification!

    • legal eagle

      Ouch…liberal media is vicious and acting illegally….Must be difficult playing the victim with such fake outrage..

    • plsilverman

      no more Liberal news media since the internet. yes, abc, cbs, nbc, lean left, love Obama. You know anyone who watches John McKaughlin?
      excuse my presumptuousness but if you think Fox/Newcorp. is fair since 01-20-09, then we ain’t got much to chew on here. :)
      .

      • John Daly

        The invention of the internet didn’t end the liberal news media any more than it did the existence of dumb people, Phil. But thanks for your theory… It was good for a laugh.

        • plsilverman

          I’ll try again, mr. sarcastic: yes, WHAT’S LEFT OF THE MSM as a real source of news/opinion, is left-oriented. But taken together with the Internet, the new mainstream is neutral. “It was good for a laugh”…don’t look in the mirror when you type, look at the PC monitor.

          • John Daly

            Bull. Mainstream media news outlets saturate the Internet the same way they saturate the airwaves and print press. When you do a Google News or Yahoo News search on a story, what do you see? A 50/50 representation of conservative and liberal viewpoints/stories? Absolutely not. You see the same ratio that you do on television and in newspapers, presented by the same outlets.

            The Internet is absolutely the best device for giving conservatism a voice in a media dominated by liberalism, but pretending that an unbalanced Internet somehow balances out mainstream media bias is absurd.

          • Lc Goodfellow

            This hateful thing called the “Internet” has spread so much misinformation.

            No, it’s the human factor that hides behind these electric walls.

  • John

    What ever became of reporters doing their jobs and investigating stories? Are we to believe that the only measure they use is how much noise the opposing party makes about an item? They wonder why the MSM viewers are leaving them in droves !

    • legal eagle

      Is Fox News not part of the media? Do all media outlets have to report the same stories. Didn’t Fox News investigate Benghazi? What did their investigation turn up?

      • John Daly

        lol. I love it.

        Imagine if Fox News didn’t bother to report on stories like Plamegate, the firing of judges, Abu Ghraib, etc. You’re saying that such a thing would be just fine because the other outlets already had it covered?

        Ridiculous.

        • legal eagle

          Fox News spent little time on the stories you mentioned. They might get a mention by Wallace or Shep Smith. I’m not saying its fine or not fine…I’m saying this is the way it is. People who get their politically related news from Fox or MSNBC miss a good deal of the news.

          • John Daly

            Totally untrue. They spent a TON of time on those stories. For you to say otherwise reveals that you honestly have no clue what you’re talking about.

          • legal eagle

            They spent much less time than the other news outlets and the time they spent on ie. the Plame story, was to defend Libby and Cheney.
            Time to go. .best of luck with your book.

          • John Daly

            Fox spent A LOT of time on Plamegate – to the point of exhaustion.

            They represented both sides of the story. Sure, the conservative commentators took the Bush administration’s side and the liberal ones took Plame’s side. That’s how it usually works on all news networks (though there’s often a lack of balance).

            As for the book… Thanks! I appreciate that.

          • plsilverman

            took Plame’s side? why all of a sudden is she someone to be vilified? her husband did not fulfill his slam-dunk mission and she’s outed or at least unnecessarily embarrassed. gee, I wonder if the dunkers screwed around with anything. ofcourse not..all solid Americans – FREE IRAQ!

          • John Daly

            Did I say vilified? Believe it or not Phil, you can think someone is wrong without thinking they’re evil… or a racist… or whatever charge you can come up with.

          • veeper

            silverman is a very lonely man…

            humor him….

          • John Daly

            Oh, I have been. ;)

          • plsilverman

            I already told you I called no-one a racist. on this site or any other. But you keep repeating that and I will ask you informally to cease and desist – I do not want to waste time & money having my team FORMALLY ask you to politely cease and desist. It is harassment. I said I find too many racially charged things on this site. Was referring mostly to posters, by the way. so quit the harassment. from your position as editorialist here, it is, all due respect, very low class and unprofessional to get sarcastic with the people who reply. why would you ascribe your name to the general “vilification” of the Left since ’06 and over the top since 01-20-09, that I mentioned. you DO reflect that hard right view but I did not say you vilified anyone. is that agreeable now?

          • John Daly

            Are you honestly this unself-aware? Go back and actually read the stuff you post on this site almost daily, and the stuff you tweet about this site.

            If you can’t take someone pushing back against your slander, don’t post here.

          • plsilverman

            don’t dig being called a slanderer. I called no-one a racist. I said this site is too often racially charged, esp. in the blog replies. This site has EMERGED as a hate site, which I’m sure Mr. Goldberg did not plan.

          • plsilverman

            ofcourse Fox spent a lot of time on Plamegate…supporting like parrot puppets the Bush II view.

          • plsilverman

            did you enjoy all the edited garbage from O’Keefe and Breitbart on Fox? O’Reilly even had to go on Leno to explain why he jumped on the Sherrod hoax. You admire Glenn Beck..the blackboard connect the dots from hitler to Obama guy? terrific journalism.
            Shep Smith is pretty good, Chris Wallace at times is great, Baier can be great, O’Reilly can be great when he doesn’t control himself with hate-artists like malkin and Ingraham – but I have a crush on he on Laura, so I’ll add a :)

    • plsilverman

      Investigate what? what Roger Ailes says is important?

  • Roadmaster

    Hey, don’t be so hard on these dupes. The way they read the 1st Amendment, they have the “freedom” to print/report whatever they want, and NOT writing unfavorable things about people they 100% agree with, fund, follow and generally suck up to, is their “right.”

    If you have a difference of opinion, you have NO rights. Got it?

    Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Goebbels, etc., are so proud…

    • plsilverman

      hitler reference: automatic D-. The Right is always fair and balanced, esp. since 01-20-09: with Limbaugh, Coulter, Levin, Hannity, O’Reilly, Beck, Gaffney, Alex Jones, Jerome Corsi, Wayne LaPierre…all fair and balanced, yes.
      by the way, I see hardright Repubs on MSNBC treated like royalty; I see lefties on Fox treated like dogs.

  • NY199827

    don’t blame the media for not doing their job!! your kidding right? what the MSM has done is treasonous they are suppose to be the government watch dog thats why there is a 1st amendment instead they jumped in to Obama’s lap I see nothing I know nothing I hear nothing!!!

    • plsilverman

      the media is NOT supposed to be the gov’t watchdog. we are. the media is supposed to sell a lot of products.

      • John Daly

        >>the media is NOT supposed to be the gov’t watchdog.

        It absolutely IS, Phil. A check on power is one of their primary reasons for existing. Scary that you don’t know that.

        • plsilverman

          “scary”, my foot. The “media” is to sell products…to provide INFOTAINMENT. at best, it should be a catalyst to get people to cross reference and use a variety of sources. Yes, it’s cool to have David Gregory, Mike Huckabee, Ed Shultz, Bernie G., whoever, keep ‘em on their toes…the watchdog ultimately is the American people..too bad both Libs and Conserves allow ther brains to be washed by humourless idealogues.

          • John Daly

            Phil, the NEWS media is absolutely SUPPOSED to be a check on power. Whether or not it actually is… that’s another story.

            My column provides a perfect example.

          • legal eagle

            John,
            I hate to break this to you but blog related opinion columns do not report any news, they express your opinion….everyone has an opinion as yours has little if any relevance except to a few members of the right wing choir…

          • John Daly

            Do you mean to tell me that my opinion columns express my opinions? Wow… Thanks, genius!

          • plsilverman

            your biased part of the 24-7 hate Obama program. This site, at this time, is a Hate Site. Read the book THE NEW HATE, if you haven’t skimmed it poolside.

          • John Daly

            Oh brother.

            I’m a commentator, Phil. I’m allowed to express opinions. It’s not “bias”. I don’t report the news. I comment on it. You’ve got to figure the difference. Try really hard. I know you can do it.

          • hihoze

            I don’t know how you can put up with these idiots John. Your chosen profession, glad someone does it but replying to Silverman over and over is teaching to the unteachable.

          • John Daly

            lol. Thanks hihoze. You’re absolutely right. I think it’s in my DNA to try to dispel falsities. I need to learn to accept that there are people who just don’t base their opinions on reality… and I can’t do anything for them.

          • plsilverman

            where’s the reality behind WISHING for things to support impeachment of Barack Obama? you have zero proof Obama DIRECTED any anti-American actions re. the Murdoch-imagined scandals.
            reality? you say the Iraq War slam dunkers did NOTHING wrong and that “Plamegate” never happened.

          • John Daly

            Phil, out of curiosity, how can you claim you’re not a liar when you completely made up three things in this post alone that I never said nor ever suggested?

            I’m half tempted to rant about cease and desist orders, but since I’m older than twelve, I’ll take a pass.

          • plsilverman

            most non-liars would take offense at being called a liar, ESPECIALLY by a published writer who should know better than try to mess with the heads of his own readers. I did not ORDER cease and desist, I politely asked you to quit the bizarro harassment. Be nice!
            I’d love to read your opinion on cease and desist.
            Now what freaking “three” things? I already explained about the 6.3% or was my explanation a “lie” to you?

          • John Daly

            Messing with your head? It’s called calling out your B.S., Phil.

            Multiple times now, you have insisted that I’ve said I want Obama impeached. I do not. I’ve never written that I do. I’ve never even implied that I do. Yet, you keep saying it nonetheless.

            You insist that I’ve said that Iraq’s “slam dunkers” did nothing wrong. Nope. I never said that, and I even took the time to explain earlier to you that they got A LOT wrong. But you keep claiming otherwise nonetheless.

            You insist that I’ve said that Plamegate never happened. OF COURSE it happened. It was in the news cycle for months. What I’ve said is exactly what the special prosecutor who investigated it said. The revealing of her CIA status was done unintentionally, and it was done by someone outside of the White House. No act of revenge.

            You see, Phil… The 6.3 gaffe wasn’t the exception. It’s the rule with you. You routinely post completely false information on this site, then get hyper-defensive and whiny when people call you out on it. I don’t care if it’s intentional or a product of ignorance. It’s false! And despite how many times it’s pointed out that what you’re saying is factually incorrect, three posts later, you ask for examples of what you said that is incorrect, before randomly spouting off about birthers, Alex Jones, and John Birch.

            I suspect you’re at least ‘trying’ to make some sort of valid arguments when you post here, but how can you expect anyone to ever take you seriously with how you go about it?

          • plsilverman

            come on, man! what BS? ok, fine, you call it BS – you’re the expert, tell us why you think it *is* BS..and maybe there’s something to learn. maybe I won’t agree but your loyal flock just might. I do not see ONE thing I’ve said here which is not interesting and based upon fact.

            You never said, in so many words, you want Obama impeached. Maybe Sean Hannity hasn’t said that, either. But it’s very much in your wheelhouse, no? of course it is. you want him to fail, fail, fail and be embarrassed failing. Ok, fine, I said you say Plamnegate never happened – now that you are playing prosecuting attorney and looking for language gaffes. try this: you say the dunkers did nothing wrong in the Plame affair. Of course it was a vendetta: from the same screwballs who said that McCain had an affair which resulted in a “black child” being born. So that Bush II could win South Carolina.
            Spout off on birthers, Jones? I’m just saying that a lot of what I read here is from that camp.

          • John Daly

            >>I do not see ONE thing I’ve said here which is not interesting and based upon fact.

            And that’s the problem, as is the rest of nonsense you wrote below it.

            What you do is create a caricature in your mind of who you WANT someone like me to be, you manufacture opposing arguments that aren’t mine, then dispute those arguments as if you’re debating me or what I believe… which you aren’t.

            When I protest your B.S., you whine incessantly, and complain that someone of my ‘stature’ (your perception, not mine) should be professional enough to let you spread your falsities with impunity.

            Sorry man, but I don’t think there’s anything ‘unprofessional’ about setting the record straight and denouncing your accusations of racism and hate.

          • plsilverman

            create caricatures? enough of Psychology 101…show us exactly what is wrong with what I’ve written here. not just that you disagree…you disagree why? I’m not assuming you have all kinds of time to address my question.
            now you’re back to accusations of racism. WHERE? But I stand by my statement that this site is a HATE SITE. The hate here is palpable. Obama, Obama, Obama, the Marxist campaigner/appeaser. Fits into the new culture of hate in the media. You are in that ever-opportunistic new Hate culture.
            I don’t know what else you written…I can look that up. I’m not saying as a writer you are somehow compromised or unethical – just a political commentator you are very biased.
            You must have read THE NEW HATE. What did U think of it?

          • richie1953

            John, I really like your articles, do keep up the good work. You’re a refreshing voice! As for these comments…my mom used to say–”Don’t get in a spitting contest with a skunk”. I see a lack of integrity here that is characteristic of the Left. Puerile snipes about “making money”, mixing contexts, and a defensive pugnacious attitude that is indicative of mendacity. This fellow Silverman protesteth much,for instance, and why is that…?

          • John Daly

            Richie, I think your mom gave you great advice. I should take it.

          • plsilverman

            thanx for the 3rd party reference. I protest excessive unfairness, bias, and vulgarity from either side of the aisle. The abortion- as- recreation people on the Left and the let’s-manufacture-a-war people on the right, make my skin crawl.

          • plsilverman

            how about your non-baised (?) opinions are impossible with “the news”?

          • John Daly

            Nonsensical.

          • plsilverman

            because………?

          • plsilverman

            Your opinion is very biased….Bernie is a famous person who runs this site – I doubt he planned it as a Hate Site, which is what it is. With all the news around the world worth reporting, here we have 92.5% Obama-is-a-thug and here’s some more cooked up proof. OR , here is today’s WISH LIST for the Obama impeachment.

          • richie1953

            Right here, John Daly said something profound. Thank you, John!!! This is such a simple question, yet our Republic can live or die by it’s ramifications. The Left wants to SILENCE everyone who doesn’t agree with their set of beliefs.

          • plsilverman

            gee, I wonder if Newscorp, ALEC, the Tea Party (aka the new John Birch Society), Jerome Corsi, Levin, Ingraham, Coulter, Limbaugh, Gaffney, Beck, Hannity want to silence the Left. on second thought, that “Left” is their bread & butter. they can distort and exaggerate with O’Keefe videos and double talkers and those who repeat the same phrases 385 times in an hour.

        • legal eagle

          John,
          I hate to break it to you but the primary reason for the media to exist is to make money….Ask Rupert Murdoch about it…

          • John Daly

            Making money LETS them exist. However, it is a key role of the news media, in a free society, to serve as a check on power. That’s much of what the 1st amendment is all about.

            I think you already know that, and you’re just trying to be snarky. It’s not impressing anyone but your buddy Phil.

          • plsilverman

            “buddy Phil”…once again you show that you can act like a low class shill for the RNC. leave me out of 3rd party mentions…be the classy dude Bernie thought he hired. Pal, you do not seem to recognize that the PRESS part of “The Media” is the not the “Media”. Yes, they have to ask though questions. The rest is the INFOTAINMENT world you make a buck off. No problem with that.

          • John Daly

            The “press” part of the media is indeed part of the media, Phil… And in case you haven’t figured it out, that’s the part of the media most of the writers here are referring to when they talk about “the media”. Hopefully, you won’t be as confused from here on out.

          • plsilverman

            “confused”, eh, Mr. Harrassment Man? I did write here that the Press is part of the Media and is in print and in cyberspace. They are SUPPOSED to be (somewhat) objective. TV and radio (for profit) is 99% about sell products, which is fine with me, except those pornographic luxury car commercials.

    • John Daly

      If you would have read past the headline, you would have found the column was taking that viewpoint to task… not agreeing with it.

  • Kewgah

    Turn on the lights, and watch the cockroaches scatter!

  • BrianFruman

    Knew about the investgation. Thats all we ever get from Obama is it being investgated. NOTHING too see here. But god forbid something goes right we will take credit. To this moron that claims to be a journalist above it used to be your job to find the truth. Not tell stories that fit your ideology, cover , interupt and mis inform during presidential debates. I mean if you like about the president thats great but this administration is more corrupt and less transparent that is a fact.

    • plsilverman

      no excuses for lack of transparency today. but for perspective, read the incredible WORSE THAN WATERGATE book by Dean.

      • veeper

        I read it.

        what’s your point….

        another book by a disgruntled ex-republican…

        he’s still peed off because he didn’t get a ‘get out of jail’ card…..

        • plsilverman

          nah. name one exaggeration, name one untruth in that excellent book. He said that W. let his VP play commander in chief and start his own energy commission. who cares if this guy is mad at himself or Nixon or Rich Little?

    • plsilverman

      “take credit”? I never heard of a President taking credit for things. But I have to admit, Obama did not don a Seals uniform and lead the charge to get BL. So he cannot be credited. I guess W. should take credit, also Cheney, since W. did not give up the hunt by ’06 and Cheney did not push for …(pause) enhanced interrogation [which resulted in nothing to help that capture].

      • John Daly

        >>I never heard of a President taking credit for things

        You’re joking, right? Have you honestly never heard Obama speak?

        • plsilverman

          gonna try again: yes, he has taken credit – the way all Presidents do. Howz about that? :)
          but maybe you’re right: he should not have said, paraphrasing: “I’m the great appeaser? Tell that to BIn Laden and 22 of 30 of his thug buddies [we killed overseas]“. He should have said, “I apologize for not getting a seals certificate and leading the charge in Pakistan. But I was worried that my certificate would be called a fake”.

    • plsilverman

      read WORSE THAN WATERGATE about Presidential transparency and read any objective book about the Reagan and Bush II adms. if you want “corrupt”.

      • BrianFruman

        I don’t need to read about transparency the government cites14 million classified documents are used each year. Again where is the hope and change. The answer there isn’t. My point is at some point people get fired. Take for example Abu Grad. I just about fell over in my chair when Rumsfeld said “the pictures are real and going to worse”. That at least shows some level of honesty but Barrack Obama would never admit anything wrong. To make matters worse he promotes and covers along with the media. He takes no leadership and gets rid of no one. What is truly scary is what’s inside those 14 million other classified documents based on his ability to get away with what we already know this administration has be caught doing.

        • plsilverman

          tell us what is “wrong”. I’m eager to learn. no referring to ALEC newsletters, please.

          • BrianFruman

            All administration lack fundemantal transparency. Democrat or Republican. However 2 wrongs never made a right. Obama administration had to know what was going on at the IRS. The head of the IRS visited the whitehouse 118 times and only once during Busch. Durbin another Illinois democrat literally admitted publicaly he went after Carl Rove. I mean come on it makes politcal sense to target your opponent especially given the 2010 midterms. The lies coming out of this adminstration are no better or worse than Bush. So if you disliked Bush was does Obama get a pass.

          • plsilverman

            Thanks for the nice reply. Yes, I always say “context”, “perspective” when it comes to “lies”, “scandals”…but I do not see any evidence that the President DIRECTED such anti-American actions. If we want to say it’s CONCEIVABLE that a PRESIDENT could be aware of even, worse, directed …ok…but it’s very negative. My semi-agenda :) is to point out where partisanship meets negative propaganda. I really think Benghazi, etc., are very serious tragedies but are being boomed out for the most egregious, really small-time politics.
            What’s frustrating is that when I say to hard rightees where were you when Reagan sent 241 Marines into Beirut -but with Benghazi and NO proof Obama mishandled a thing they absolutely freak out and say, why go back in history?

  • Shane

    Liberals in the federal government have been targeting Obama’s political enemies since he took office in 2009. All Obama had to do was to identify his political enemies and the libs did the rest.

    • plsilverman

      Conservatives all over the map have been “targeting” Obama’s big toe since 01-20-09. All perfect shills for the new extreme Right…which embarrasses real Republicans.

      • John Daly

        As if you haven’t been sucking his big toe since 01-20-09. Sorry, but you set yourself up for that one. ;)

        • veeper

          silverman shakes hands with brian williams every day….

          and you know how far up obama’s butt williams is….

          • plsilverman

            why the obsession with that part of the male anatomy?

        • plsilverman

          I’m surprised a guy who get to write for Bernie Godberg acts like such a low class, punk, schoolyard exponent. Who’s big toe have you…….? not worth it.

  • http://twitter.com/Trochilus Trochilus

    Of course the premise of the argument “don’t blame the media” loses it’s entire basis altogether, when solid evidence finally emerges showing that media actors were intentionally hiding the proof which they themselves had right in hand!

  • Roman Lubers

    Sadly this is just another example of how our country has gotten us to concentrate on the “other side” then on what’s important. We need to learn that no matter what our political affiliation, we should never, NEVER be happy with the other sides failures. Whether you voted for someone or not, they are your government and your representation to the rest of the world. The world of politics is seeming to take on the tone of the average sports fan, you boo when your side is called for a foul and cheer when the other side is called for the same thing. Truly being impartial seems to be a dream that’s not achievable these days. While I may not vote for the winner, to wish for the opponent to screw up or get caught doing something wrong means I’m wishing for my country to fail. While I didn’t vote for Obama, it truly saddens me to see the things going on and the time it’s taking away from solving the other problems our country needs to address at the moment. No one should be happy for the problems OUR country is going through, we should wish for him to do as competent a job running this country as he can whether you like the man or not. There should be no joy in being “right” about his cabinets mistakes and abuse, it’s hurting all of us as Americans, not Republican or Democrat. Most of the mainstream media has forgotten what it’s like to be unbiased in their reporting, when you notice this pattern, stop listening to what they have to say as it’s a single sided opinion and not reporting. The news should be the truth regardless whether it is a personal affront to the reporter.

    • marijooneill

      Roman, that all sounds well and good, but we have been waiting for 4plus years for this Administration to try and resolve the issues. Obama had decided to expend many dollars of taxpayer money for green energy loans to companies that mostly went under with no money being paid back. He then went on to expend more money & energy on Obama care which will turn out to be a disaster for the people of this Country. Then he wouldl not approve the pipeline which could have created thousands of jobs. He has done everything he could to sabotage what could have been done & the Media has aided and abetted him. Now we have another 3plus years to see more of the same. so there is my opinion like it or not. Now we have Benghazi & the IRS debacle created by Obama’s minions who will drag this Country down with their partisan liberal ridiculoous views..

  • richard whaley

    Pardon me if someone else already brought this up, but I think I recall Romney attempting to bring up a fact about Benghazi only to have Candy Croley, the moderator, step in and wrongly defend Pres Obama. This allowed Obama to sidestep any damaging answer him might have provided.

    • marijooneill

      Richard, you are right as I stated in my comment above. The deabte was going on and then Romney brought up Benghazi, the media villified him and when he tried to bring it up at the next debate Candy Crowley did back Obama and it was an outright lie but she got away with it.

      • plsilverman

        Still zero proof that the President told anyone to stand-down. To the chagrin of Rupert Murdoch. How do U KNOW that anyone was lying? Is it inconceivable to believe an initial report that it perhaps was some stupid video which instigated the whole thing? Remember Salam Rushti. But keep on wishing and …fishing. Roger Ailes is providing free coffee.

    • Phil Ruland

      Very true. Another example of the press running interference for Obama during an extremely important event that impacted the election. This inappropriate pro-Obama mediation seemingly never ends as recent scandalous events prove? One can’t help but think that the Obama White House is inept and out-of-control.

  • k962

    Bernie the media has become a lapdog for Obama, instead of a watch dog for the Republic! Plain and simple!

    • plsilverman

      not really? you know anyone who gets their news from Meet The Press? Ever hear of the Internet? that entity PLUS what’s left of ABC, NBC, CBS news is the real internet. It is politically neutral. Murdoch is not technically in the “mainstream media” but he runs Newscorp, more a political network than news/opinion. the media branch of the RNC, which is now very much controlled by the Koch Bros.

      • John Daly

        Meet the Press? It’s been a joke since Russert died (one of the few journalists with integrity).

        • veeper

          meet the press considers SNL and letterman a news source….

          • plsilverman

            nah.

        • plsilverman

          that’s my point.

    • plsilverman

      and newscorp is the counterweight.

  • pupster40

    It was planned and orchestrated by the progressives, NOT FOR PUBLICATION.

    • plsilverman

      wanna share your proof? :)

      • pupster40

        How about by paying attention to the slobbering progressives.
        Probably should use he same source as the Libs, make it up as you go along.

        • plsilverman

          MSNBC is NOW the fair & balanced network, who treat GOP with respect, on the shows. Do you see Pat Buchanan or Michael Steele vilified, laughed at? Ever watch O’Reilly shriek at guests who he says are loons? great journalism at Fox. the 24-7 Despise The President channel. “and now my new book is number one!”. that’s the most you get nowadays there. I loved them from 1996 to about 2006. Then came Beck, and Hannity goes solo..and then the 01-20-09 declaration of war on the character of Barack Obama. Pens provided by the Koch Brothers.

          • pupster40

            Typical response, deflect the subject when it gets too close to truth. Same old same old.

          • plsilverman

            come on…same old what? let’s talk about my points.or yours…if you ever wrote one here. Explain WHAT you say I “deflect”? I’m very eager to learn.

          • plsilverman

            where did I deflect anything but unfounded accusations against the President Of The United States?

          • John Daly

            >> MSNBC is NOW the fair & balanced network, who treat GOP with respect

            Now I’ve heard it all.

          • Patric k H.

            Has he lost his mind? MSNBC treat the GOP with respect? I don’t think so!

          • plsilverman

            you say they disrespect Michael Steele? In fact, Ed Shultz got in trouble witgh his viewers when he was too neyral, too nice, with GOP Presidential campaigners. Maddow has had themost extreme Conservatives on who have insulted the blank out of her and she stayed calm and professional. Fox? no way..O’Reilly shrieks at Barney Frank and Joe Klein…and is negative with Politico, etc.

          • Patrick H.

            O’ Reilly is not a journalist! He’s a commentator! Everything from 9-4 and 6-8 is the news, the rest is commentary! For crying out loud, and why do you slander the Koch Brothers? They’ve donated so much to charity: http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/02/koch-brothers-give-more-to-charity-than-to-right-wing-causes/

          • plsilverman

            Well with 53 billion, why not? I do not like being called a “slanderer”, pal. Look up the Kochs story on wiki and watched the KOCH BROTHERS EXPOSED DVD with an open mind. Yes, I think they are patriotic and want what they think is the best for the country. But they cannot escape their pro-segregationist ways (their Dad was a founding member of the John Birch Society, who called Eisenhower a pinko).

  • legal eagle

    Let us know when the right wing media will mention that the stock market has doubled since Obama became POTUS….

    • Jen

      So have gas prices, food stamps, welfare and unemployment. The stock market has been artificially inflated by the Fed’s printing money and keeping the interest rate low. That high stock market number is there to make fools like you think the economy is just fine. Time to take the blinders off and pay attention a little bit.

      • legal eagle

        The balance in your brokerage account should be far more important to you than the price of gas etc. It certainly does to me…Unemployment has gone down considerably since 2009. Amazing that everything negative is Obama’s fault and everything positive is someone else’s doing.

        • wally12

          You are correct that my IRA account is important to me but the price of gas also is important along with other products and services that I need to spend my money on. The IRA account has grown but not due to Obama’s policies. It has grown due to companies who have cut their expenses and inventories to the bone. That efficiency has made the companies more profitable and the stocks more valuable. The down side is that even though the stocks have grown, the actual value hasn’t grown equally due to the value of money or in other words due to inflation. Let us put the shoe on the other foot. Obama states that any success is not due to the individual’s smarts and hand work but due to the governments and other people. Remember that Obama said “You didn’t build that”. Take a good look at this economy. It is the slowest growing economy since the great depression and yes Obama is responsible for it drag. His stimulus of the green job industries have done nothing and have actually hurt the economy. His open att5acks on existing energies have resulted in energy prices that have remained higher than they should be.

          • legal eagle

            So the price of gas has gone up because of Obama but the stock market has gone up despite Obama?

          • John Daly

            Good point. Obama only deserves credit for the good things that happen on his watch… not the bad things. I say, let’s go ahead and blame Bush for today’s high gas prices.

          • legal eagle

            The government has little effect on oil prices. Oil and gas prices are controlled by companies such as Exxon with the help of the Saudis and the assistance of commodity traders…The only effect the government has is taxes..Gas prices were just as high under Bush and he had little to do with it either.

          • John Daly

            Traditionally, that has been true. But the value of our dollar is a big determinate of the cost of all imports into our country, including oil. Our national debt and Obama’s unprecedented printing of money has dragged the value of our dollar into the crapper, and it has indeed contributed to our record-high gas prices. The failure of our government to expand domestic drilling on government land hasn’t helped either.

            On a side note, don’t you find it fascinating how gas prices under Bush generated a ton of media stories, but much higher gas prices under Obama generate practically no media interest? Just another example, man.

          • plsilverman

            No. both W. and Obama have very little to do with gas prices. In fact, Obama has done more onshore drilling than W. did.

          • John Daly

            >> In fact, Obama has done more onshore drilling than W. did.

            Nope. Less drilling on government land. More on private land, which is out of Obama’s hands.

          • wally12

            That is true. The stock market doesn’t go up because of what Obama has done. It has gone up for two reasons. One is that the Bernache of the federal reserve has been buying back bonds which also means that money is being printed. With more money in circulation inflation is encouraged. Also there are many people who want to invest to obtain some return on their investment. They chose the stock market since it has historically been a area that provided a better return than government securities, CD’s and banks. There are many people who have IRA’s. They also want somewhere to invest for the future so they stay in the stock market. More important is that businesses and corporations have trimmed their companies down to the bare bones and as a result have seen an improvement in their bottom line. Are you saying that Obama’s policies make the companies efficient? NO! They do it all the time. During times of an expanding economy, these same companies are more prone to gamble on the future in the hope of growing bigger so they may be less profitable until their new ventures take off. The price of gas is a different story. Obama has done many things to increase the cost of gas. He admitted that he wanted the cost of existing energies to increase. He went so far as to state that he wanted the price of coal to increase so high that power companies would convert to other energy sources. He wanted that change to go to the green energy sector but as we all know it has been a complete failure with stimulus funds thrown at Solyndra and others who have gone bankrupt and used tax payer money that will not be paid back. If fracking hadn’t been so successful and if oil hadn’t been discovered on private lands, Obama’s oil prices would now be much higher than they are. For your information, the rise in gas prices of $1 per gallon means that the economy suffers by $187 billion per year. That is one large amount of food stamps and food for the nation plus all the other sectors of the economy.

      • Peteyboy

        Accurate comment. People that link stock market activity to healthy economy don’t know what they are talking about. Companies have money because they watch the bottom line. Our government is BROKE because they keep moving the bottom line to include a higher debt ceiling for more borrowing, and printing money. If the federal government were listed on the exchange they would have been DE-listed years ago. That’s the problem with our government, they aren’t nearly as interested in making money as they are with spending it.

      • veeper

        the wall street guys are raking in the money now so when they begin to sell off….

        they will have recouped their losses plus obama’s bailout money.

        • plsilverman

          that bailout $$$$ rests comfortably in the Netherlands.

      • plsilverman

        Stock market rising because the economy is improving, no help from the GOP who won’t fix a bridge and who return stimulus $$$. the auto industry is restored and that’s a pump, too. You think “supply side” would have ben a better approach. It failed with RR, did it not? Ask David Stockman.

    • k962

      And did that effect unemployment? Not one iota! So the rich got richer under Obama and that is a fact!

      • plsilverman

        the rich continue to get richer in the trend started by Reagan-Regan. blue collar salary pretty much flatlined in that chart trajectory. of did the blue collar decide to get lazy in 1981?

        • k962

          Household median income dropped over $5,100 under Obama! The better economy is a myth!

          • plsilverman

            Dropped over 5,100? respectfully, do you have a cite 4 that? ok, at this point, I’ll say, yes, your right – your source is right but explain how Obama is responsible for a trend started by Reagan-Regan? Responsible for all the unemployment & welfare generated by the GOP refusing to look at new Jobs and Infrastructure bills? 450 filibusters?

          • k962

            Unemployment in the mid Bush term was 4.5%! Where is the Reagan – Reagan trend then? Obama took nearly one Billion in stimulus money and produced really nothing with it? Remember all the “shovel ready Jobs”? What happened? We have had stimulus, then “son of stimulus” all with nothing to show! Blame it on the Republicans but Obama’s first two years he had it all his way, Republicans couldn’t block a thing and it produced zero!

          • plsilverman

            Nope. Unemployment at the end of the Bush term was huge! Come on! he was losing 700-800 jobs per. month and at one 6 month period lost FOUR MILLION jobs, probably 2008. You kidding? the stimulus produced a disappointing amount of jobs but I say it was still a moderate success. remember all the red states SENDING BACK stimulus $$$ and all the $$$$ that wound up overseas, NOT re-invested in the workforce. Yes, Obama got his TARP implementation but he also extended the Bush tax program; also offered a 3.8 to 4.4 trillion $$$$ deficit reduction package which was laughed at. Obama has given about 18 tax breaks to small employers and has NEVER raised taxes on 95% of us. He now has the most Obstructionist House in history. Yes, he got AFCA (and he did use Republican input) thru but it was 65 years in coming and actually should have satisfied the GOP, although they disliked Romneycare and apparently disliked the GOP alternative to Hillarycare which AFCA is based upon. I know it’s too big and with too many penalties. But turning back to precondition denials, etc?

          • John Daly

            Unemployment at the end of Bush’s last term was 7.8% – not much higher than it is now. The big difference, however, is that far less people are out of work now than were then.

          • plsilverman

            no. sorry. Obama’s 9.3% was not unexpected considering the job loss trend that W. generated. It’s amazing that Obama’s new # is 6.3% considering the points I’ve made here about unprecedented partisan obstruction. we should see four million new healthcare jobs come up 2013-14 plus still more and more auto manufacturing hiring.

          • John Daly

            It’s not 6.3%, Phil. You made up that number. It’s not even close.

          • plsilverman

            Hi nice folks: the “6.3%” is very wrong, sorry. I caught it on TV someplace and later discovered the reporter was referring to a large county in CA. I now see it’s about 7.6 and is expected to be above “7%” until 2016.
            but…a good step forward for the country. Now if the War on the Blue Collar Worker, run by the extreme Right, would end…………

          • Jeff Webb

            Defending Obama in general is ridiculous enough as it is, but on the subject of taxes it’s beneath pathetic.

            1) Every taxpayer’s taxes are higher, not just wealthy people’s. Even if the claim were true, unequal treatment of the American people isn’t a positive thing. Besides the 14th, are there any other amendments you want the rich to be denied?

            2) Coming up there will be even more taxes for everyone to pay.

            3) All deficit reduction plans by Democrats so far have had tax increases, with the biggest issue (excessive spending) getting glaringly insufficient focus.

            4) The ink was barely dry from the recent tax increase and Obama was already demanding more.

            5) To constantly harp on people to pay more taxes, all while hiring and working with tax-cheats, is indefensible.

            It’s also about time to retire that lame “most obstructionist” crap. It isn’t lawmakers’ job to pass laws no matter what. The laws must be in the public interest and cannot be at odds with the Constitution.

          • plsilverman

            Reagan raised taxes 11 times and then saw his 2nd term…resemble “a term”.

          • plsilverman

            unemployment now at 6.3%; auto industry hiring and selling like mad? what?? :)

          • k962

            70% of All GM vehicles are produced in China or Mexico!
            Yes they did get a lot of jobs only they weren’t American jobs! Just look at Detroit!

          • plsilverman

            nope. yes, too many are made overseas but that is business as usual and we do have trade agreements. point is in Detroit they are hiring walk-in applicants (I guess first time since the ’70s) and they expect to sell 14 million cars 2013-14. Gm and Chrsyler have paid back most of the loan. Under “normal” conditions, I’d say no bailout but we had a JOBS crisis and could not endure a bankrupcy attorney running the show.

          • k962

            Excuse me sir, but Detroit unemployment is almost 19% ! The city is now managed by the state! I have seen video of the GM CEO bragging on a visit to China how he plans to increasing his vehicle production there! That is not what they got bailed out for!

          • plsilverman

            wrong. 19% is horrible but better than 29%. a lot of local people have been hired, walking in, to the plant. Gonna try again: we always have cars produced overseas – it’s called…get ready…a trade agreement.

          • John Daly

            >>unemployment now at 6.3%;

            Nope.

      • plsilverman

        unemployment dropped from 9.1 to 6.3.

        • k962

          Last time I looked it was 7.6%! Who has lowest unemployment rate? Washington DC area! Who does not have one major industry that area! So we know what grew, “government’!!!!

          • John Daly

            k962, Our buddy Phil gets his news from MSNBC. You’ve got to keep that in mind. ;)

          • plsilverman

            another 3rd party reference. all this adds to my importance here – which I will point to in my application for your job! Ok…let’s start the tennis volley: Phil gets his news from MSNBC, John gets his from Roger Ailes.

    • MontanaMade

      @ legal eagle:

      Ooo, Ooo, Ooo!!! Me Please- Pick Me Please!!!

      Okay, understand a basic in economics: If you simply print money (as in QE2, QE3 & QE4) you will temporarily prop up the markets (and BTW- the markets are NOT a good indicator of economic health). The flow of cheap money will make companies look good as people borrow & spend said cheap money- but the key word here is “temporarily”- it means it won’t last and when interest rates go up- and they will- all hell’s going to break loose! The cost of everything will go UP and the companies that produce said goods will suffer because the lack of buying will take hold. Once the cheap money goes away- the real economy will take root and we will see a downturn (recession) worse that the ’08 crash. It may happen on Obama’s watch- and it should- he caused it. The thing about Keynesian Theory is that you eventually run out of money! It’s like digging yourself into a hole and asking for a bigger shovel to get out! Personal thought: The Government cannot raise the interest rates while we are in such a deficit- they would have to raise the SSI allowance based on the raise in standard of living due to interest rates rising, which puts us even further in debt. With more & more Baby Boomers retiring every day- it is a monster they should have solved YEARS ago!! Eventually though, the Fed will have to do something to get us off dead center.

      Get invested in Food Storage- lots of it. Gold & Silver will be worth something for a while so it’s not a bad bet in the mean time. I do not wish to sound negative- but this is going to be bad and it will get worse before we start to see a real recovery- hopefully we won’t have to take Austerity Measures to make it happen.

      • plsilverman

        If we have another collapse, which we won’t, give 85% credit to the Tea party puppets in the House and their war on blue collar: support of returning stimulus $$$$, declining on infrastructure contracts, and love of corporate raids and manufactured wars…and tax relief for zillionaires.

        • http://twitter.com/MissoulaHome Kris

          So, are you blind or deliberately ignorant? Either way your argument holds no weight. The Tea Party doesn’t have enough pull to cause or not cause anything, and if you’re betting there is no downturn in the economy- that will be a tragedy in your life.

          • plsilverman

            haha! The TP ahs no pull? who “pulled” the brains out of Boehner during the debt ceiling talks and otherwise? no power? they have power! they 53 billion dollars to play front group (the new John Birch Society) supported by those present-day Birchers, the Kochs.

    • plsilverman

      ow! rock on, baby! yeah, huge corps, huge banks, stock market, auto industry really hate Obama…also the rerurning soldiers and 30 million newly insured people incl. many who were denied coverage before, because they were too expensive. yes, Cancer can be costly.

      • veeper

        yep..

        that obama cancer has really been costly….

        • plsilverman

          aw, cute! can you elaborate on that very intelligent statement? I know you always reference Bill Buckley as an influence.

          • veeper

            your dementia is showing again..

            I have never referenced bill buckley as anything.

            you’re making a fool out of yourself attempting to be snarky.

            but, being lonely and fishing for interaction on the internet does that to you old people,

          • plsilverman

            hey Veeper: my point was your vulgarity (in the above post) is not something that the great Bill Buckley (the #1 Conservative writer) would ever resort to. Ok? have an iced tea.

          • veeper

            Vulgarity?

            the truth hurts you silverman….

            BTW…if you have to explain what your point was….you didn’t have a point to begin with…..

            and, you call yourself a writer????

          • plsilverman

            vulgarity: stuff like “…up Obama’s b*tt” and “Obama’s [political] cancer” (following mention of Cancer patients who were denied coverage for mercenary reasons prior to AFCA).

          • veeper

            He he he…

            Oh MY GOD…

            silverman is blushing…..I said butt……

            Opps there it goes again….

            Giving you the benefit of doubt…..the fantasy land of your mind must be due to Senility.

          • plsilverman

            nice try, little guy: nice deflection from …”up…”

          • plsilverman

            by the way, I’m 62…and “senility” is no joke..or is it? ask your mentors.

          • veeper

            I have zero interest in your age…

            your senility is acting up again…

            you’re making up things that have not been said…

            or maybe that’s due to your lack of reading comprehension.

          • plsilverman

            I’m surprised a classy gent’ like yourself would make such a lowclass slob reference to “senility”. prove I’ve made up ONE syllable here. :)

  • unclemutt

    The Commie said we will take over the media,radio,paper,all media

    • plsilverman

      right…all 17 Commies left in the world say that!

    • Brian_Bayless

      Right, and only the people who watch MSNBC are loony….

  • joepotato

    The Fast and Felonious scandal/govt. operation is another example… What happened after Sideshow Barry invoked executive BS to pull Holder’s chestnuts out of the fire? I’m still wondering… Next, on the non-story list is the tale of the mystery long form BC. When it made its famous debut, computer geeks across the internet found it to be sorely lacking as a legitimate document, and dubbed this thing as a fraud and a hoax. The media said otherwise and quickly dropped the subject, never to visit it again.

    Along comes the MCSO – CCP, requested by the Surprise AZ TEA party to look into the apparent fraud… The CCP investigation concluded that prior computer geek analysis of the PDF file was accurate. One local (BSM) network station reported on the 1st press conference by the MCSO, and after that a total news blackout was initiated. Way to go BSM… It’s nothing but a little conspiracy to coverup a story they don’t want anyone to see or know about.

    • plsilverman

      you follow Alex Jones?

  • Phil Ruland

    Terrific piece by Bernard Goldberg. Mitt Romney had a no-win deal on Benghazi. The mainstream media skewered him when he first pointed out inconsistencies in its handling saying he was politicizing the tragedy. Let’s face it, with the possible exception of FDR, there has never been an American presidency so shielded from media scrutiny and criticism as the current one. Indeed, it has reached absurd heights with Karen Finney’s remark redirecting blame (never Obama’s, of course) at conservatives. MSNBC has truly gone “down the rabbit hole” in its coverage of the Obama scandals, but why should anyone be surprised? Giving the president a pass and redirecting blame is business as usual for most major media outlets in America today.

    • legal eagle

      I didn’t hear a lot of criticism of Bush form Fox News or talk radio when he was POTUS….Did you?

      • plsilverman

        I gotta say, I did hear O’Reilly & Ingraham criticize Bush II. For not being extreme enough.

      • Phil Ruland

        Bush received plenty of criticism from Fox News on a number of issues (Immigration, Education, Social Security reform, Foreign Policy, etc) How soon one forgets.

        • John Daly

          I love this notion that Fox News doesn’t have a slue of liberal commentators on the payroll who criticize conservatives and Republicans each and every day. It makes you wonder if the Fox detractors have ever actually watched the network.

          • legal eagle

            Do you work for Fox News? I guess if your nice to them maybe they will let you make an appearance to push your book…Ask Goldberg.. money talks..

          • John Daly

            Nope, I just watch it.

            And when I do, I see routine dissent against the conservative viewpoint. Practically every politically-oriented segment features someone representing the liberal/Democratic point of view.

            The other news networks can’t say that.

          • legal eagle

            I know you understand the difference between journalism and opinion…Fox News rarely ever runs any stories that are pro-administration….Also,Fox has only two on air journalists Shep Smith and Chris Wallace. The rest of the shows are mostly opinion highly slanted to the right.

          • John Daly

            You think Special Report is mostly opinion?

          • plsilverman

            they never really represent the Left. They mock the livin’ daylights out of Obama, Biden, Pelosi….R U kidding?

          • John Daly

            You ought to actually watch it sometimes.

          • plsilverman

            I watched…here we go…Fox every single nite from 1996 to about 2007. I was a huge fan of Hannity & Colmes and O’Reilly. I still like O’Reilly because underneath he’s fair and balanced and anyone can see his pain when he has to read John Birchian trash from Sammon memos. I know the whole story. I like O’Reilly, Smith, Wallace, and all the Libs on hand to build up the full time hosts. I’ve researched many of the hosts. I’ve also watched Outfoxed! and read THE FOX EFFECT. uh, have you?

          • plsilverman

            you might as well be full-time there. you should replace Hannity. If you agree with Bernie 90% of the time on politix you should write to Murdoch and ask for a taste. In all seriousness…make the big(ger) buxx.

          • plsilverman

            yes, they have Williams and Colmes, the cool guy at 5pm (the adult) and the Lady whose name escapes me, who is excellent. they have Chris W. and S. Smith who on occasion SEEM to go off the script from Ailes/Sammon. BUT…they are there to build up the hardright full-time hosts. that’s okay. Bill screams at Alan because he thinks it’s turning on the pretty Lady to Alan’s left (can’t recall her name…she suppresses her real intelligence to be a Despise Obama 24-7 person – O’Reilly said “that;s your role”! go, Big Billy Boy!!).
            I watched them from 1996 to 2006-7, every nite and liked them. then 01-20-09 came around. they switched to the Vilification Station. (I like that….). BERNIE, HIRE ME! I mean, I’ll do it for nothing. I’m the new rage!

          • John Daly

            >>yes, they have Williams and Colmes

            Along with many, many others.

            >>BERNIE, HIRE ME! I mean, I’ll do it for nothing. I’m the new rage!
            I have no words…

        • legal eagle

          lots of criticism of Bush by Fox News? I guess 99.9% approval means plenty of criticism?

        • plsilverman

          that’s true…because he wasn’t Republican-enough for them. He wasn’t John Birch.

  • Tim Ned

    Actually, I think Finney is just being honest from her
    liberal bubble. Even if there was a hint
    of the IRS scandal had it been a Republican Administration, the left wing press
    and Finney, would have been all over it.

    • legal eagle

      Karen Finney is not a journalist she is a commentator similar to O’Reilly and Hannity….Daly should stick to golf and stop whining about the media.

      • MontanaMade

        true- she is a commentator and is entitled to opinion- but she is NOT entitled to make up her own “facts” as she sees fit. She can comment on facts presently in play- but to assert that “everybody knew that” is insane at best- a bold faced lie at worse- but the liberal sheep will listen to this and take it to the streets. This will become the standard of the day- that “Conservatives everywhere knew about this and said nothing so it must be okay!” This will be the new justification for doing it in the first place- not that the whole thing stinks to high heaven and NO ONE should tolerate it- not conservatives, liberals or anyone in between!

        • legal eagle

          Fox News knew about the subpoena for Rosen’s records in 2010 and said nothing until 2013….

          • MontanaMade

            Just as it was stated before: SOME people knew- EVERYBODY did not. FOX could not comment due to the nature of the search- so they could not report it. I honestly believe that had they even tried to reported it- it would have gotten MUCH worse for Rosen & his family- can you imagine the DOJ & the IRS working together to ruin your life?? Yeah, that would have been FUN…

          • legal eagle

            How do you know that Fox could not report it? Are you making stuff up? Roger Ailes withheld a story to protect someone like Rosen? Now that’s funny..

          • plsilverman

            I’m wondering if Murdoch and kid pulled the same (telephone record) tactics here in the USA, as they did in the UK. Fair and balanced.

      • Kyle Leleux

        I am not sure if you know this but the John Daly that wrote this article is not the same John Daly that plays golf.

        • John Daly

          I think it was a lame attempt at humor.

          • veeper

            Nope…

            just isn’t aware…..

            it’s an obama thing….

          • plsilverman

            can U enlarge upon that?

  • ted

    Also not legitimate is whether the targeting of the Tea Party/conservatives led directly to Obama’s reelection. It would probably be impossible to prove in a court but it is food for intellectual thought. But it is not “legitimate” to the NBCBSABCAPBSMSNBC/New York Times.

  • ted

    You write: “If a story is legitimate, it should be covered.” And there you have it. The term “legitimate” is subject to interpretation. I would guess the Far-left media does not believe that Banghazi, the AP and Fox intrusions and the IRS targeting the conservative tax implications. In today’s Seattle/New York Times was and article about the Obama administration going after dangerous leakers. Yes, it mentioned the “legal” steps the Justice Dept “must” use to get to the bottom of this national risk. And there you have it. Legitimate to one is illegitimate (if that word can still legally be used) to another; just like “fair” to one is “unfair” to another. The vast majority of the United States media exists to continue the LiberalProgressiveDemocrats’ power. And there you have it.
    http://www.periodictablet.com

  • Bob Capraro

    The leftist press reminds me of newly minted, inexperienced West Point officers going into battle with a head full of theories and no practical experience.

  • Bob Burg

    John, it’s terrific how you continue to make your points with conviction and … just as importantly (perhaps more importantly) – with logic and clarity. While you are writing an opinion column, I always enjoy that your opinions are based on facts and do not automatically kowtow to any dogmatic expectations . Keep up the great work!

    • John Daly

      Thanks Bob. I appreciate that!

  • FastOne

    It’s interesting that the MSM reminds everyone that Romney didn’t make a big deal of Bengazi in the final debate (of course Candi Crowley sucker punched Romney and got away with it). Clearly, this was a political miscalculation by Romney, who must have seem himself so far ahead that he didn’t want to dirty his hands with something that could potentially backfire, since he did not have all the facts at the time. That debate is a perfect real world example of how Obama is a great instinctual campaigner and has NO ability to govern, while Romney was not a great campaigner yet had the intellecutal gravitas to refrain from making politically charged accusations before he had all the facts in hand (assuming that others would understand the implications of his reticence). Romney is exactly what the country needed and Obama is exactly what the country didn’t. (How pathetic is it that I will use a pen name for this bog for fear of being harrassed by the IRS)

    • ABoleynGirl

      Well said, FastOne.

  • hihoze

    The press and their politicians will never change. They have no credibility left with anyone. The truth is now relative. It’s time for the voters and states to enforce their 9th and 10th Amendment Rights by individually nullifying the nonsense from the Washington DC’vers. We can then choose to live peacefully in the Conservative Red States or the Socialist Blue states. It’s time to try separation without secession and leadership from something other than the Donkeyphants.

  • Vivian

    Well, if Big Mouth Finney knew about the investigation…why, with her journalistic
    integrity and ethics, she should have taken action and made a big deal about it and honesty reported on the story…How is this for a concept???

  • Russ

    John,

    Good article about “media incompetence”, but it does not go far enough. For a real view of how pervasive this problem is and how long it has been going on, read Ron Unz’ article from April 29, 2013. It’s not just MSMBC. It’s Shocking!

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/our-american-pravda/

  • Gob

    Has anyone asked Romney about this? Or Issa? Yes,Finney is a shill for the D’s. We all know that. When is there going to be a broadcast that exposes the hypocrisy,lies and exaggerations on both sides?

  • allen goldberg

    Every day, the MSM commits FRAUD. They have become the publicity arm for the liberals hiding real details and not doing their jobs…for news media to blame someone else is stunningly self serving and arrogant..but what has become the standard..and a horrific one at that…this ‘news-reporter’ is just another example.

  • http://www.facebook.com/darren.perkins.942 Darren Perkins

    Do we dare even call what we have in this country journalists any longer. There should be a new word… oh wait there already is one: propagandists.

  • veeper

    ok, if this were really a valid point….

    why isn’t the liberal press interviewing Romney to find out why?

    see how easy it is to use this tactic, folks…..

  • Kyle Leleux

    Well done. You are possibly my favorite contributor to this website. I read many of your works and have not found one that I did not enjoy. Looking forward to your future writings!

    • John Daly

      Thanks Kyle, I really appreciate that!

  • Brian Fr Langley

    You should see what the media is currently doing to a conservative large city mayor. Mayor Rob Ford of Toronto who is despised by the leftist elitist media has pilloried this guy (in virtually every big city newspaper and news channel) for only an allegation that two reporters (from a magazine that has tried to depose him three times already) saw him smoking crack from a crack pipe, shown to them by two drug dealers who want $200,000 for the video? No proof it’s him? and no proof it’s crack? Yet the shreiking cresendo is deafening. Maybe he did it, maybe he didn’t, but if he was a liberal leftie this would not yet have been published in even one paper, or aired on even one news channel. His real crime? He’s been trying to reduce metro Toronto’s property taxes, and find ways to save money by instituting spending cuts??? (For some of the most beleagured taxpayers in North America). How dare he???

    • JDinSTL

      What would you expect them to do?

    • legal eagle

      So the Canadian media also picks on right wingers? Victimization knows no boundaries……LMAO