Teaching Sedition in High School

by **jaybear_us** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:42 am

I would like to see Bernie investigate a foxnews online report that I came across. It seems that there is a high school social studies teacher in the L.A. Unified School District who has been teaching sedition to students. A teacher by the name of Jose Lara, an activist and supporter of La Raza has been interviewing students and parents at a La Raza affiliated building. He apparently has been teaching that America is a racist country and supports La Raza's call for a revolt in the U.S. to take back california, arizona and other territories for mexico.

Another social studies teacher, Ron gochez has been seen making incendiary remarks about latino's and mexican's rights in this country. He also calls america racist and refers to california as "stolen occupied mexico". He's another La Raza supporter and also supports revolution in the U.S.

Now, I hesitate to call this treason. I'm no lawyer and not sure if there has to be overt acts of violence against the U.S. government for a charge of treason. But I'm pretty sure that calling for revolution against the government may be sedition and would like to know why these two clowns are teaching children instead of having a government paid vacation inside of some federal prison.

As I said, I would like Bernie to take a look at this and perhaps even suggest Bill O'Reilly take a look at it also, with his wide audience on the Factor.

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by **JDC** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:15 am

Yes, there is a fine line between Freedom of Speech and Treason/Sedition . . . but people like this--messing with the impressionable minds of little kids who don't have the life experience or courage to challenge them--should chargable with something. (Perhaps "Intellectual Child Abuse?")

A few years ago, during a visit to a brand new elementary school, in one of the urban-suburban areas of Minneapolis, I was more than a little shocked at the massive One World propaganda campaign being waged that ran the gamut from posters in all the hallways to a giant, permanent, mural in the new cafeteria.

If the "teachers" in question moved to The Great White North, they might be candidates for Teacher of The Year. (Remember that this is the state that elected Al Franken).

by **Cap'n Billy** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:45 am

jaybear_us wrote:Another social studies teacher, Ron gochez has been seen making incendiary remarks about latino's and mexican's rights in this country. He also calls america racist and refers to california as "stolen occupied mexico". He's another La Raza supporter and also supports revolution in the U.S.

Nothing like a video to prove a point. Here is one of Mr. Gochez's speeches (which I've posted in this forum before).

by **6079smithW** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:35 pm

Does this guy teach at a high school, or at UCLA? I can't believe this guy would have enough time on his hands to devote to lunacy if he was actually doing a teaching job at a high school - those people actually have to work!

by **btorocco** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:43 pm

6079smithW wrote:Does this guy teach at a high school, or at UCLA? I can't believe this guy would have enough time on his hands to devote to lunacy if he was actually doing a teaching job at a high school - those people actually have to work!

I would agree with you but it did say he's a 'social studies' teacher in high school. This helps to explain why students entering college these days need 'remedial' everything. But they sure feel good about themselves, don't they!

by **washingtonamerica** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:47 pm

ahhh the sublime art of sedition..... american style, but not till grad school(kidding). there is a fine line with rebellion, revolution, treason, etc. of course our founding fathers were seditionists. one could argue that mehico is occupied territory, of course it's not legally. high school shouldn't be practicing any politics or demagoguery. but it sometimes slips by. the kids are so smart these days, they pick right up on it. sedition is rebellion on steroids, with the act or the threat of inciting riotous behavior, action against the state. the new york times(benedict arnold gazzette) is a good example, of pushing the envelope of sedition, passively. with this whitehouse and congress, the kids may get a chance to see it first hand. the hbo mini series "john asams" is awesome. i saw it a month ago, and i'm ready to see it again.

by **Jeffreydan** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:41 pm

I'm going to have to work very hard to not behave like a paranoid conspiracy nut when my daughter starts school in a few years.

Liberals dominate the public school system with very good reason, and far too often it's not out of caring for the kids. They know the kids with less socio-politically concerned parents will be easy marks for their agenda.

One of the things I'll be considering (among others, whichever will be most feasible) is taking my attorney to see the principal and/or teacher before the first day of school and laying out my rules regarding my child's value system.

Don't know if that sort of thing could be done, but I will tell you this much: there's no way in the world people with an agenda like the Massachusetts school officials would get a chance to sexualize my small child.

by **Media Rookie** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:18 pm

CA public schools may not sexualize their student sat an early age, but yes, you should be afraid.

This was very disconcerting. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/ ... to_su.html

by **Jeffreydan** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:20 pm

Media Rookie wrote:CA public schools may not sexualize their student sat an early age, but yes, you should be afraid.

This was very disconcerting. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/ ... to_su.html

That's the main concern, of course. If teachers try that stuff, I'll fight every effort they put forth. And if they try the sexualizing stuff, I'll fight every urge to kick the crap out of someone.

by **washingtonamerica** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:09 am

I'm going to have to work very hard to not behave like a paranoid conspiracy nut when my daughter starts school in a few years

i would be more worried if you weren't so vigilant, there is no more powerful force on earth than a mother's love. even the idea of taking, a lawyer to lay out boundries is a good one, but probably only if the school has had a previous problem. i have lot's of friends in vermont that homeshool their kids, because of the unknown when they are gone for the day. i went to a high school with five thousand kids, it's easy to fall through the cracks or disappear completely. don't let your daughter out of your sight, even for a minute.

by **Jeffreydan** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:40 pm

washingtonamerica wrote:
I'm going to have to work very hard to not behave like a paranoid conspiracy nut when my daughter starts school in a few years
i would be more worried if you weren't so vigilant, there is no force on earth than a mother's love. even the idea of taking, a lawyer to lay out boundries is a good one, but probably only if the school has had a previous problem. i have lot's of friends in vermont that homeshool their kids, because of the unknown when they are gone for the day. i went to a high school with five thousand kids, it's easy to fall through the cracks or disappear completely. don't let your daughter out of your sight, even for a minute.

I am from Vermont, moved west after completing 1st grade.
I can tell you that there was no leftist indoctrination happening in my classes, and my years at that elementary school are pretty vivid despite the years gone by.

We haven't ruled out home-schooling, but will have to study up on it.

by **ScottT** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:42 am

Jeffreydan wrote:
washingtonamerica wrote:
I'm going to have to work very hard to not behave like a paranoid conspiracy nut when my daughter starts school in a few years
i would be more worried if you weren't so vigilant, there is no force on earth than a mother's love. even the idea of taking, a lawyer to lay out boundries is a good one, but probably only if the school has had a previous problem. i have lot's of friends in vermont that homeshool their kids, because of the unknown when they are gone for the day. i went to a high school with five thousand kids, it's easy to fall through the cracks or disappear completely. don't let your daughter out of your sight, even for a minute.

I am from Vermont, moved west after completing 1st grade.
I can tell you that there was no leftist indoctrination happening in my classes, and my years at that elementary school are pretty vivid despite the years gone by.

We haven't ruled out home-schooling, but will have to study up on it.

JD---

You're from VERMONT???.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDwODbl3muE

:doh:

by **btorocco** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:03 pm

Jeffreydan wrote: We haven't ruled out home-schooling, but will have to study up on it.

Easy for me to say, JD, (no kids) but have you considered private schools? These days especially, public school would be the last place I would entrust to educate children. Never ceases to amaze me that all these leftist anti-CIA, anti-FBI, anti-military, 'evil government conspiracy' types seem to have NO problem with that same 'evil' entity having access to their kids' minds 8 hours a day for 12 years!

by **Jeffreydan** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:53 am

ScottT wrote:JD---

You're from VERMONT???.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDwODbl3muE

Thanks a **&%#!! for the reminder.

btorocco wrote:Easy for me to say, JD, (no kids) but have you considered private schools? These days especially, public school would be the last place I would entrust to educate children. Never ceases to amaze me that all these leftist anti-CIA, anti-FBI, anti-military, 'evil government conspiracy' types seem to have NO problem with that same 'evil' entity having access to their kids' minds 8 hours a day for 12 years!

Cost is the factor. We won't be able to afford a mortgage payment and private school at the same time. However, it certainly will be Catholic school if my desired career takes off in a few years.

by **btorocco** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:02 am

Jeffreydan wrote: Cost is the factor. We won't be able to afford a mortgage payment and private school at the same time. However, it certainly will be Catholic school if my desired career takes off in a few years.

Yeah I was afraid of that. Well I sincerely hope you are successful and can afford it. I attended Catholic elementary and high school and I'll put that education up against ANYONE. When I was in grade school even the average students were reading at least three grades above our own level while the public school kids were lucky to read at their own, and it's much worse now. If you can manage Catholic school your daughter will certainly thank you for it by the time she enters the job market, believe you me. Even when I speak to some (too many) people my own age I cannot believe how ignorant they are.