What about the "Good Illegals?"

[McWeijun]

I just heard Obama talking about the hundreds of thousands of "Good" illegals that come here each year just to look for work. Are you kidding me? We have 15 million "Citizens" that are just looking for work and probably another 10 million citizens like myself who's unempolyment benefits have long since expired and who are no longer counted by our government. Who is Obama more concerned with? This guy is so over his head. There must be millions of unemployed black "Citizens" as shocked as I am when our president shows more compassion for illegals looking for work than he does for citizens. I feel sorry for my fellow citizens who are black and who waited a lifetime to see a black president and then got stuck with this sorry excuse.

[Cap'n Billy]

Wonder what the unemployment rate would be if the 11 million or 14 million or 20 million illegal aliens in this country would disappear?

[btorocco]

Wonder what the unemployment rate would be if the 11 million or 14 million or 20 million illegal aliens in this country would disappear?

Well according to some, Cap, it would have no effect because they only do the jobs that 'Americans won't do'. And if you believe that I've got this bridge...

[ArielShaul]

What about the good Asians who have to wait decades?
If anything we need to open up immigration to non-white, non-hispanics in proportion to the world population.
Amnesty only for Mexican and Canadians is in fact the most racist "solution."
You want amnesty, fine: give a 2 year work VISA during which an undocumented worker can apply to immigrate on the same terms as everyone back in his/her home country. Give free education and heath care to "anchor babies," but require application for citizenship on the same terms as children still back in the home country. Open up citizenship to the immediate family of those who do 3 years of US military service. Perhaps allow Peace Corps, Doctors without Borders, and other valid charitable service alternatives to those who are not physically qualified for military service, but only after applying for military service and are denied a medical waiver. US citizenship is special and should be earned.
I would also favor granting future 2 year work VISA "amnesty" to undocumented workers who are willing to go home until US unemployment is below 7%, but also with no accelerated path to citizenship. All work VISAs should be conditioned on employers and workers paying all back and future taxes, and correcting all false identities.

[Cap'n Billy]

If anything we need to open up immigration to non-white, non-hispanics in proportion to the world population.

That looks a lot like a "quota" system to me. But as long as we're engaging in fantasy here, here's mine. How 'bout we admit immigrants based not on their race or ethnic group, but on what they're likely to contribute to this country instead of what they're likely to receive from this country?

[JDC]

When I was a Carpentry Instructor (for "at-risk" youth) back in the '90's I had a student from Ethiopia. A "refugee" of sorts from that civil war they had over there. His English wasn't great, but it got better every day and he was perhaps the hardest working young person I encountered in ten years of teaching, enforcing rules and doing the paperwork.

One day--after I demanded that he take a break from his assigned task--he came up with The Classic Comment: "Sir John," he said, "I am worried about the youth of America. They appreciate nothing. All they do is complain." (Said with a heavy African accent.)

All I could say was: "You are worried about American youth? Join the club."
I'm not sure that he translated my remark perfectly but so it goes.

He, Davit Kabede, had a five-year series of hoops through which to jump in order to become an American Citizen and that was his long-term goal. Everything he did, every day was directed toward achieving it.

If there was a way to speed up that Citizenship process by trading off about 50% of the other "students" I encountered over a ten year period--and throw in Sharpton, Jackson and that "Blank Panther" from another thread for good measure--I'd vote for it.

BTW: None of this is "racist". I would have said the same thing had he been from Mexico. Or even French Canadian.

[ArielShaul]

I would support a positive contribution bias still weighed by worldwide fairness. The bias of Amnesty so much favors Mexicans that the CIA predicts that in less than 10 years we will have to give all southwestern states to Mexico. The proportion of violent revolutionary immigrants, both illegal and already US Citizens (under Reagan's amnesty) is high enough to drag other Hispanics and liberals into the anti-US revolution. If we don't change the proportion of immigrants to worldwide and diverse, there will be a violent revolution, and perhaps a violent counter-revolution that will leave most American Hispanics dead. Even if we passed a treaty with Mexico ceding people and land, there is no way to force everyone on ceded land to want to be Mexicans. Even Hispanics who supported La Raza or other Mexican reconquest activism might have second thoughts: they left Mexico for the US because they did not want to be in Mexico! Liberals are right to warn of a probable violent end to the current Mexican invasion, but fail to perceive that a border open to Mexicans and closed to most other immigrants is the very policy that may cause the next Mexican War. In any case it is neither fair nor safe to allow immigration predominantly from our undefended borders.

[jaybear_us]

My response would be different. I would raid all La Raza offices, get the names of everyone affilliated with them and check their immigration status. Those who are illegal aliens I would deport immediately. Those who are american citizens I would charge with treason.

Then I would inform Mexico that since we now have about 10% of Mexico's population in this country illegally, we are going to annex the northern 10% of Mexico and make it an American possession. Then we can send in the army and clean out the cartels. And tell Mexico that if they do not control the new border, with each increase of percentage of illegal aliens which enter the U.S., we are prepared to keep annexing the equivalent percentage of Mexico.