We Are Truly At Sea

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We Are Truly At Sea

Postby BoneFish Darel » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:52 pm

Hello, fellow posters


I just listened to Michael Savage (Weiner), and he is somewhere between dumb ass, and lucidity. He said that the Summer Of Love, in 1967, created AIDS, STDS, and the proverbial downfall of our great nation. He wants us all to believe that everything is totally screwed up, and it very well may be - yet, how he has addressed it is the key.

For all of these people who have something to say:
Find a true focal point. We may be a screwed up society here in the States, yet, most of us - truly, have a value system. We can't stop everything that goes on, especially on the 'Net - but people like myself who post - along with others (where the @#*! are you) - that have a history with our nation, should show themselves without shame - or blame...

It is tantamount for all of us to make our opinions known, even online - as we are without a voice in our governmental process, and all that you have to do is look at who is running for the US Presidency...

It's a total joke. The joke, unfortunately, is on us... Michael Savage (Weiner) be damned...

He's just a 'talk jock' who has, in many people's estimation, pissed people off with his opinions, and Libertarian slant - while, through all of it, wants us to believe that he is a TRUE conservative. Okay, I'm finished...

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Postby Red » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:07 am

Michael Savage is nothing but a sensationalist. I guarantee if it didn't pay, he wouldn't have those same opinions. He's worse than a politician because he'll say anything to get a rise. After all, that's what people listen to. The squeaky wheel per say. If he were just an every day guy like the rest of us, he wouldn't say the things he says, nor would he really have those opinions. My hunch is that he doesn't really have those opinions anyway. It's all just entertainment. He doesn't even argue his points very well. I don't know why anyone listens to him.
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Postby BoneFish Darel » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:49 pm

Red, keep this in mind...

The broadcasts (what an outdated term) from Michael Savage (aka Weiner) are now 'encore' broadcasts. He has apparently attracted the ire of many other folks out there, in a legal sense - and is currently beseeching all of us to contribute to his legal fund, in the interest of protecting "...our freedom of speech...".

I'm a conservative that isn't much unlike the 'Blue Dog Democrats' of yore. I'm an independent, and I've always voted for the person that I thought would best suit the job - especially the US Presidency.

I voted for Reagan when he ran, and I must say that all of the FOX news folks out there are re-running all of his famous quotes, before he considered the presidency...

He definitely brought our nation out of the doldrums after the Carter administration - that much, I will not deny. But his Vice Prez, George H.W., was a former spook with the CIA - and all of the behind-the-scenes, untoward crap began (Iran-Contra, Noriega, et al) - with the beginning of what we all know as 'Political Correctness'.

Just like our current VP Cheney - although, Darth Vader Cheney is coming from the corporate bent...

Dennis Kucinich is on a mission right now, with his last impeachment call for W. Pee-losi is actually trying to follow through with this last hurrah, and all that this demonstrates is that all of these gangster clowns that we have in key positions within the US Government are grandstanding, trying to clutter the already twice-filled media spin-cycle.

Damn it to hell. Keep posting, people - maybe we'll find solutions, instead of more problems... short of NRAED's assessment of armed insurrection...

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Postby BoneFish Darel » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:17 am

No reply posts back from my last one - oh, @#*^$&! well...

Yes, we are truly at sea. This last inference is not out of a novel from Norville, nor is it out of the media spin-cycle that continues...

It is from our inability as Americans - to correct what we see happening that is wrong within our political structure. Everyone that I write to - or speak to, for God's sake - is totally buried in the 'politically correct', dumb a$$ mind-think that allows this crap to continue...

Let's try this:
Do you remember the days when kids could play 'Cowboys and Indians'? Do you have a clue about our TOTAL history of the United States? Trust me - it isn't pretty, as we were on a mission to CONQUER this area of the world...

We're not talking about the Civil War, nor are we talking about the many other wars that happened within that time - to the present.

We're talking about our nation's future - as we want to know it, since we've been taught that the United States of America is the world leader, the dominant Superpower, and we cannot do anything wrong...

If you are a proud American, then you need to start questioning everything that goes down within our government. That is what the Founding Fathers wanted us to be able to do, and even though they designed this wonderful nation further back than my haircut (I'm a shaved head guy, with no Aryan bent), they knew that things would grow and multiply, just as they always have done, since time immemorial.

If you place your thumb between your buttocks, and switch hands - to where the previous hand is in your mouth, and this happens MULTIPLE times - isn't it possible that everything starts tasting bad?

Damn it, I know that we're all smarter than that...
I hope...

I normally sign off as BoneFish Darel, however this time, I'm changing the rules...

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Postby Red » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:33 pm

Sorry I haven't written you sooner. I'm a little busy here in Afghanistan and sometimes I have a lot of time, and sometimes I have none. I really haven't taken the time to think about a response to your post. I will, and I'll get back to you shortly.
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Postby BoneFish Darel » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:04 am

Red -

I gotta tell you - I was born at the tail end of the baby-boom, 1961. Since my life experience straddled the 1960's and '70's, I was around when two of my cousins lost their lives in Vietnam. I was around when communes were only down the street from my house, and I hadn't a CLUE about what they were smoking out of their water pipe(s). I was already a studying musician at age 6, and it is possible that I may have experienced more than I should have during my formative years. Yet -

Even though I may have been anti-war - due to the times that I came up in - I still believe that the US of A is the greatest nation in the world, dumba$$ politicians notwithstanding. People like you - who serve our great nation in the Armed Forces, give guys like myself the ability to rant, scream, rave, dissent - in a time where 'political correctness' shrouds our minds, our way of thinking, and, ultimately - our behavior. However -

You, Red, are doing all of us a great service, and I hope that your time in Afghanistan is short, uneventful, and productive. I will never understand why our President decided to split the troops and invade Iraq (aside from oil interests), and allow the Taliban to attempt another foothold gain in that 8th Century country where you're toiling at right now. Once again, however -

Go kick some serious a$$. Do what our nation needs for you to do, and safely - so that you can come home, and drink a beer with yours truly.
I @#*! you not, my friend. Stay in touch, and share my location here with your buds - I'm a musician, and I would love to come over there and have a major hoo-rah with you guys, and gals... <www.bonefishband.com>

God Bless The US of A - and you, Red - along with everyone that you serve with. Once again, may you Rock On!

Love ya brother -
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Postby Red » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:58 pm

I have time for only a quick comment before I get some sleep. That is in regards to your anti-war upbringing. I honestly think that everyone should be anti-war. What a person (and I'm not saying you don't do this) has to do though is weigh the consequences. It's like, I don't like fighting. But I'd do it at some point to protect myself, my family, and perhaps (using nation speak) my interests. But that doesn't mean I should ever want to go to war. I don't know of anyone who's actually over here who enjoys warfare. If they do, then they're young idiots. I truly believe we're doing right here in Afghanistan. I think that the Taliban were a horrible people and they were doing nothing but breeding hatred, terrorism, and oppression throughout the countryside. I also think that there are many extreme groups like that in the middle east.

I, however disagree with the war in Iraq. I'll defend our decision to go there because leaving now would be absolutely disastrous, but I don't think we should have gone there in the first place. Yes, Saddam broke treaties, yes he murdered his own people, yes he paid 25,000 dollars a head to family members of suicide bombers, but honestly he's one of many dictators that do the same types of things. We actually had the legal recourse to go after him, but I don't think our case was as morally strong as is needed for warfare. I think Bush thought he had WMD, as did Germany and Great Brittain. If he had WMD, then I could see a reason for toppling his government. Hind-sight is 20-20 I suppose. In the end, were we proven wrong? Perhaps. But pulling out in defeat doesn't help anyone. Especially the poor Iraqis. So am I for war? Absolutely not. It is the second worst thing men do. The worst being to oppress. Just remember that a world without war would be a world without the right to dissent.

The only reason I really posted that is because there are many people on this site that would be surprised to know how I felt about war. I tend to spend most of my time defending our efforts. You mentioning that you used to be anti-war just seemed like a good excuse for me to vent, both steam and ideas.

I agree with you on political correctness so long as we don't come off rude. That being said, I think most people need to grow a backbone. We've become neutred and we need our cahones back. The PC police can be oppressive to the point that they remind me of the 'Thought Police' in H.G. Well's "1984." I was just reading a couple of old posts between Sinatra and some other people. I think even Bernie posted in there once or twice. Someone was accusing Mr. G. of being a sexist becuase he said that people who watch the view tend to be unsophistocated. That was a paraphrase. Now I hadn't a clue as to how you could contrive something sexist out of that until I read the posters' statement as to the average audience in the middle of the day (which is I guess when the view is on) is female. I don't know if that's actually true, but talk about sensitive and overly PC. WTF over? There was also another post about how someone was upset because Mr. Goldberg referred to ignorant people as retards. This poster had a child with Downs Syndrome. This world is crazily PC. I mean people like this... how can they be happy? Do they hide from the sunlight? These people need to loosen up and go smoke a water pipe. I'm not suggesting they "Turn on, tune in, and drop out," but they seriously need to do something about their state of mind.

Now I don't purposely go around being un-PC, because I want people to pay attention to my points. But these people are high estrogen retards.

What do we do about our political joke in D.C. you ask? I really don't have any novel answers. Maybe we could fire 'em all and start fresh. The problem isn't just the politicians, it's the machine that backs them. Isn't it funny that major corporations and rich hippies give money to the same people? It's no wonder our interests are hardly represented. The primary problem I think is career politicians. They develop way too many connections by the time they reach the top. I also agree with Mr. Goldberg when he says that the media and the politicians are both out of touch with their constituents.

But it seems that we are adrift as you imply. Either that or were on a runaway train and were headed into station. Can we salvage something and turn it into Robinson Caruso or Gilligans Island... Perhaps Silverstreak. I wouldn't give up hope if I were you. Remember that the governing body can only govern at the consent of it's people. Doesn't matter if it's a dictatorship, a democraticship, or a ship that's lost at sea. They have no real power without us.

Thanks for your posts and thank you for your kind words. I really don't deserve them. We all just do what we do.

Thanks man,

Red
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Postby BoneFish Darel » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:38 pm

Red -

You are completely right on. Our politics have gotten us so screwed up that we can't see the forest for the trees. You, Red, are defending our way of life - even when the WMD intel in Iraq was completely wrong. It, however, still needs to be finished. However, Afghanistan is truly the key, at this point. Do you notice how Obama made that point on one of his first stops on his recent Middle East tour? What about Pakistan? Are they going to be truly on board with the USA when it comes to these despots?

Red, I'm not an Obama supporter. Nor am I a McCain supporter. We are at the mercy of the media spin-cycle, and our current election cycle looks like it truly SUCKS. I guess that I will have to vote for McCain, or - not vote at all. The latter part of that last sentence is what is killing our great nation - the ones who don't vote at all. Keep talking, brother. I'm listening...

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