A controversy is brewing in Gainesville, Florida, which is expected to reach its climax on September 11, 2010, the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attack on the United States.
Rev. Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center, a non-denomination New Testament Church, intends to burn copies of the Qur’an “in remembrance of the fallen victims of 9/11 and to stand against the evil of Islam.”
This is a really bad idea.
Interfaith groups and others have weighed in on the controversy and counter-protests are already being planned. The White House and Attorney General Eric Holder have chimed in, as well as P.J. Crowley of the State Department who said “these actions themselves are un-American.” I’m not impressed by what the Administration has to say because, as far as I’m concerned, the State Department’s recent inclusion of the duly enacted Arizona Immigration Bill in its report to the United Nations’ human rights commissioner is, to me, “un-American.”
What did give me pause, however, was General David Petraeus’s statement in The Wall Street Journal. “It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort. It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems. Not just here, but everywhere in the world we are engaged with the Islamic community.”
As far as I’m concerned, if any action – whether it be the action of an individual or the press – in any way endangers the lives of our brave men and women in uniform, those actions should not be taken. Period. End of story.
If the Rev. Jones goes forward with this ill-conceived idea, I don’t believe the Islamic jihadists will hate us more. If he doesn’t go forward with this insane idea – and there’s no indication he’s willing to back down – the jihadists won’t hate us less. They hate us. Period. Our very existence is the reason they hate us. Our way of life and the freedoms we enjoy in this country are the reasons the jihadists hate us. The jihadists want us dead, they want our soldiers dead, they want our mothers, fathers, children, sisters, and brothers dead. So, I’m not sure if Rev. Jones’s actions on Saturday will endanger the lives of our military any more than they’re already endangered.
But, because of my deep respect for General Petraeus, I’ll take his word for it when he says, “Images of the burning of a Qur’an would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan – and around the world – to inflame public opinion and incite violence.” Protests have already begun against Rev. Jones and his Church in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Indonesia.
I can already hear those who say, “It’s his Constitutional right to burn the Qur’an – it’s a symbolic expression protected under the First Amendment.”
Well, I’ve written about the Mosque at Ground Zero and the Empire State Building’s refusal to illuminate their lights to commemorate Mother Teresa’s 100th birthday, and I fully understand the owners of private property have the right to do what they wish with their property.
But just because it’s legal, doesn’t make it right. The fact that the Rev. Jones has the right to burn copies of the Qur’an, doesn’t make it right. No doubt he would be furious if he saw anyone burn the Bible. Will his actions make that stop? Of course not.
Abortion. Flag-burning. The exploitation of women who work in strip clubs. Driving and using a cell phone. Assisted suicide. Medical marijuana. The exploitation of children in beauty pageants. Texting while driving. The actions of the Westboro Baptist Church at military funerals. Prostitution.
All these things, in some or all states, are legal. But, in my opinion, that doesn’t make them right.
I abhor the use of Christian symbols in what is considered to be “art” such as “Piss Christ” which depicts a small plastic crucifix submerged in a glass of the artist’s urine. Andres Serrano, the “artist,” has the right to create this obscene piece of crap, but it’s wrong.
I think it was a cheap shot for Seth MacFarlane, creator of the tv series “Family Guy,” to have one of the episodes involve a character on a date with a female with Down Syndrome who was asked about her parents to which she responded her dad was an accountant, and “my mom is the former governor of Alaska.” Mr. MacFarlane, has the right to mock Sarah Palin, but it’s wrong and not funny.
Our Founding Fathers gave us the Constitution with its Bill of Rights which has provided us with the most wonderful freedoms any people have ever enjoyed in the history of mankind. But with those freedoms, comes responsibility and self-discipline.
So, yes, the Rev. Jones has the right and freedom to burn copies of the Qur’an on September 11th. But that action is wrong.
He says he’s not deterred by protests, death threats or warnings from General Petraeus. He also says he and his members are taking seriously several death threats directed at them, but said if something happens, it would not be their fault.
If his actions incite violence, he and his ilk will, no doubt, consider themselves martyrs for their twisted way of thinking. “We will not be responsible. We are only reacting to the violence that is already there in that religion” he says. It doesn’t sound very Christian-like to me.
I would rather hear about a Church in Gainesville, Florida living up to its name and holding a peaceful and respectful candlelight vigil for all those who died on 9/11. A reading of the names of the 9/11 victims or those of our fallen servicemen and women since 9/11 fighting to preserve our way of life and for the freedoms enjoyed by the Rev. Jones and his congregation would be so much more appropriate.
I don’t get “International Burn a Koran Day 9/11/2010” and, if you do, God bless you.
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I agree that burning the Koran serves no purpose other to incite more hatred against the USA.
As a Messianic Jew, I find it distasteful to destroy anything that is sacred to another religion (whatever that religion might be). Our founding fathers I believe would object to Pastor Jones’ actions. Freedom of religion in this country was the main reason our country was originally settled.
While the Bible and Torah may be burned in the Muslim world, that is simply a reflection of their intolerance and stupidity. We as Americans are above that.
GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!!!
I would probably like the feeling of burning a Koran, just because the Muslims have created such hostile feelings in me toward them …. but I wouldn’t do it because I don’t want to be as intolerant as Muslims are.
We did nothing to them and they have murdered thousands of Americans without provocation. I have no difficulty in remembering this …. but it would still be wrong to be as ignorant as they are …. and no, I am decidedly not a pacifist.
Leona is absolutely correct. This minister is clearly filled with hate, so much so that he ignores the sanctity of religion.
Muslims routinely burn Bibles and Torahs, especialy in Saudi Arabia. If you come into the country with a Bible, it will be taken away from you. The Saudi police will throw in a trash can in front of you and when asked they will tell you, it will burned at the end of the day.
Update:
The latest news report: Rev. Terry Jones Calls Off Qur’an Burning. I believe this is a wise decision on Rev. Jones part. My friend suggested that a candlelight vigil be held and that the names of our fallen soldiers be read as a way of honoring our young men and women in the armed forces. Let God take care of the evil in our world.
Your point is dead on. It is seemingly a trend these days for people, usually liberals, to argue that someone has “a right” to do something obnoxious and that makes it OK to do it. As you so clearly note, that simply isn’t true. Many things are done, or in most cases, not done, out of respect for a person or an idea or even a religion. Can we not recognize that?
BTW, for you writers talking about Georgia, the pastor is in Gainesville, Florida, which is not quite the tiny burg that some media reporters have made it out to be. The church is small, but the city is the site of the University of Florida. The university enrollment is more than 50,000. The city population is more than 110,000, or about four times the size of Gainesville, Georgia.
Paul, It was I who wrote “Georgia” and I’m not sure where I got that. I stand corrected.
frankly i could care less. Muslims burn bibles everyday of the week. Particularly in Pakistan, Indonesia, and Nigeria. Every day.
What does disturb me is the very far left idea of collective American guilt engendered by politicians and the MSM. This far left idea, embraced repeatedly by Obama, is antithetical to American individualism and responsibility.
There is one very simple solution, which seems to have been overlooked. First of all, HOW did we learn of Jones’ Koran burning? The MEDIA. Who can make this go away? The MEDIA. If they just ignore this whole thing in Georgia, Jones can go ahead and burn, baby burn, the Koran and/or a cardboard bear named Mohammed, and fan the flames toward the East. And guess what? With NO MEDIA there to report on this…ta da…it all just goes away. What do you want to bet the MEDIA will be there the day before…salivating???
No relegion has come close to perfecting itself . Relegious beliefs are guidposts for improving ones relationship with the creator. All relegions have approaches for becoming closer to God. No one religion has demonstrated it has all of the answers.
I see a lot of people commenting from their own frame of reference: that of people who have grown up in a free, permissive, literal society, where book burning is distasteful but not illegal, where symbols mean very little.
Sure, we can get away with using holy books as “toilet paper” and submerging sacred symbols in urine. We may believe that Islam is Satanic or hateful or backwards or whatever. That’s not the point. The point is what the Muslims believe, and how they will react to burning the Koran.
Radical Muslims are not coming from our culture. They don’t share our views. They revere the Koran as the most holy and sacred item in the world. Try to put yourself in their shoes. Burning a Bible is not analogous to us, because we are a literal society, while they are symbolic. Instead, if you are Christian, imagine another culture burning the actual bones of Christ.
So what do we want? Do we want to incite anger and hate and violence? I don’t. I want peace and understanding. Will burning a Koran make things worse between our cultures? In my opinion, there is no question that it will. There will be no coming back from it.
Right now, the radicals want to kill us. Burn a Koran, and even the moderate Muslims will want to kill us. Is this really what we want?
I’m a fiscal conservative – a real conservative and politically independent. I’ll come back to the Republican party when it loses the far-right gun-toting religious racist wackos. I said it. It’s true. Stop making excuses for them fellow thinking conservatives. Good conservatives act like the very real and valid conservative arguments about accountability and responsibility don’t hold any water, so lets tack on the idiocy of Beck, Palin, or this latest idiot Jones. They’re making conservatism look like it’s primarily about trailer-trash getting up in arms about Mosques and God. I’m getting really f*cking tired of it. Let’s start talking about real issues and the real conservative plan to solve them.
You make a good point; I don’t see the Rev.Terry Jones’ point or what he plans to accomplish with his actions, but I guess he is trying to make a statement and he is willing to stand behind his convictions. He plans to burn a book that influenced those who were instrumental in carrying out the 9/11 killings, but is this adding fuel to an already burning fire? Why aggravate a situation? Maybe he and his cohorts are convinced that this should be done, but did he think about consequences. (This reminds me of a song I wrote–Decisions/Consequences; the last line reads, “make the right choice, today”.
Rush just put this in perspective. It seems that the Pakis were worried about US troops trying to convert Muslims. So they compelled the US Army to burn the bibles on their base. Funny how it doesn’t work both ways. Also, if a Muslim converts he is subject to execution.
From my point of view all religions are bad and have little redeeming qualities. That does not mean I don’t believe in God. It is just that religion has caused more harm in this world than any other factor. And religion and God are not the same thing. Also, I see that Islam is most definitely on the move and trying to cause harm. It must be stopped or we will be looking at another Dark Age.
I agree that is stupid. More importantly, it is ineffectual. On the other hand, if not letting the Muslim cultural center and mosque be built would put our soldiers in greater danger, would we then be in favor of having it built new ground zero. If greater harm is done, it is not caused by the Reverend Jones, it is caused by the persons doing the harm. To what extent will we let threats by extremists govern our actions?
Whether there is a burning or not, I don’t feel that the fanatics will change their mind when it comes to the people of the western world. They just hate us either way.
Great article Leona – I couldn’t agree with you more. I agree that the level of outrage in the Muslim community over this and other things (the cartoon, South Park, etc.) is extreme, but if this puts troops in harms way, it should not be done.
This morning I saw a clip on the news of a member of Dove World Outreach center (it wasn’t Rev. Jones) and he said “We think that Gen. Patraeus has it backwards. Our troops are already in harms way and this will not increase that.” Has this person been to Iraq or Afganistan?? Why does he think that he knows better than the commander of our forces there?? He’s an idiot and I certainly don’t get him or this…
Everyone in the PC world wears blinders and pretends that Islam is a religion of peace despite world-wide and history-wide proof to the contrary. What leader in the Islamic world decries the violence and the jihad. There’s not one. The proof is clear; the teachings found in the Koran are evil.
The point of the book burning is to wake up people from their Islam-happy fog. . .to say We know that the contents of this book are evil, un-Godly and we want nothing to do with this horrible thing, therefore we burn it like the trash it is. I think it’s a perfect and right thing to do. If only we could harness the energy used to burn the Koran to fuel weapons to kill the un-Godly jihadists who are constantly trying to kill us.
TA, Sounds like you have read the Koran and can confirm that it is evil. Maybe you could you quote some of the “evil” passages? I’m Christian, but I would think twice and be able to back up my statements before calling a religion that 23% of the world population belongs to “evil”.
How do you define evil?
Hi, Leona! I understand where you’re coming from, but I’m not sure I understand what this country is coming to when we cower down to a threat over a ‘cartoon’ drawing. Or, a cartoon bear on South Park that they named Mohammed. And now threats over a guy burning Korans in Georgia. What about the scumbags in Kansas who protest at our fallen soldiers’ funerals? A couple months ago we saw pics of Mexicans protesting in the streets of Arizona…they had trampled on the American flag. Where’s the outrage over that? And, the movie 2012…why was there was no mention of Islam? Hmmmm. I’d say there are things a heck of a lot worse than some guy in Georgia holding a book burning. There’s only so long you can turn the other cheek.
How do you fight a people when they are willing to give the ultimate sacrifice for their cause? You can’t; one has to put his trust in God, but Who is God? Does this society know, anymore?
Leona,
As a Christian, I believe that burning the Koran does nothing to further Christ’s message, and moreover, it accomplishes the exact opposite. Having said that, I find myself bristling when I read an Islamic “cleric” justifying murder of Americans with Satanic logic (this cleric’s true god is revealed).
“It is the duty of Muslims to react,” said Mohammad Mukhtar, a cleric and candidate for the Afghan parliament in the Sept. 18 election. “When their holy book Quran gets burned in public, then there is nothing left. If this happens, I think the first and most important reaction will be that wherever Americans are seen, they will be killed. No matter where they will be in the world they will be killed.”
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100908/D9I3N9KG0.html
I think the burning is stupid. But that being said I also think they should use the Koran as toilet paper.
As to provoking the Muslims, last I knew they were wanting to kill us. This will make them want to kill us. What is the difference? I Korea, during the war the US troops were in a secure location and keeping quite in order to reduce enemy activity on the line. A group of French Legionaries was moved next to them (no Frenchmen) and they started fires at night to draw enemy attention. They reasoned that was the way to kill more enemy.