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		<title>By: Guided By Voices</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>Guided By Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill White (if thats your real name! lol!) let me first say &quot;Thank You&quot; for your service to our country, I truly mean that.  Second, good God you HATE much!  Let it go ... its long over ... we now have a President who apparently surrounds his self with Socialist/Marxist people and groups as well as Nationalization of as many private sector businesses and corporations as possible.

Think you can pull your self up to 2009 and help us deal with the current situation.  If you did serve, you are still honor bound to protect and defend the &quot;Constitution&quot; of the United States first and foremost.  What say you and the rest of us make sure a free Republic is still here for our future generations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill White (if thats your real name! lol!) let me first say &#8220;Thank You&#8221; for your service to our country, I truly mean that.  Second, good God you HATE much!  Let it go &#8230; its long over &#8230; we now have a President who apparently surrounds his self with Socialist/Marxist people and groups as well as Nationalization of as many private sector businesses and corporations as possible.</p>
<p>Think you can pull your self up to 2009 and help us deal with the current situation.  If you did serve, you are still honor bound to protect and defend the &#8220;Constitution&#8221; of the United States first and foremost.  What say you and the rest of us make sure a free Republic is still here for our future generations?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Mr. Greenberg the sad thing about all this STUFF is nothing can be solved. I was suspened at my job for saying,&quot;mexican&quot; standoff&quot;,  Never said it but lost the time.  I waas suspended for putting up controversial info on un ion bulletin board.(bosses stealing vac ation days).  Never put it up, lost time anyway. Lost time for getting a sandwich t work, at unauthorized place were everyone goes, even bosses.  So I know hoe you felt when Blather gtried to fire you, but tell me Mr. Goldberg what does a fellow not as articualte and clever as you do to fight back?  I am lost in a quagmire of &quot;DALEY machine politics as a registered Republican.  Throw me a lifeline.  Victimized</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Mr. Greenberg the sad thing about all this STUFF is nothing can be solved. I was suspened at my job for saying,&#8221;mexican&#8221; standoff&#8221;,  Never said it but lost the time.  I waas suspended for putting up controversial info on un ion bulletin board.(bosses stealing vac ation days).  Never put it up, lost time anyway. Lost time for getting a sandwich t work, at unauthorized place were everyone goes, even bosses.  So I know hoe you felt when Blather gtried to fire you, but tell me Mr. Goldberg what does a fellow not as articualte and clever as you do to fight back?  I am lost in a quagmire of &#8220;DALEY machine politics as a registered Republican.  Throw me a lifeline.  Victimized</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill White,  After all your rambling factitious posted statements, you have finally admitted that you were a &#039;VIETNAM ERA&#039; pilot just like Bush.  End of game, &#039;CHECKMATE.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill White,  After all your rambling factitious posted statements, you have finally admitted that you were a &#8216;VIETNAM ERA&#8217; pilot just like Bush.  End of game, &#8216;CHECKMATE.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill White</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Leland”,

No one here is being critical of George W. Bush because, like so many others, he was afraid to go to war for his Country.  It is the hypocrisy of his Cheerleading the invasion of Iraq and sending National Guard troops to risk their lives in his fabricated war when he himself was unwilling to serve that is so objectionable.  As a final insult, he has engaged unscrupulous PR wags to try and reinvent himself as a modern day Rambo to somehow justify his actions.

I have posted my comments under my real name and my service as a Navy fighter pilot during the Vietnam era is fully documented.  Why are you afraid to disclose your true identity while attacking the meritorious service of others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Leland”,</p>
<p>No one here is being critical of George W. Bush because, like so many others, he was afraid to go to war for his Country.  It is the hypocrisy of his Cheerleading the invasion of Iraq and sending National Guard troops to risk their lives in his fabricated war when he himself was unwilling to serve that is so objectionable.  As a final insult, he has engaged unscrupulous PR wags to try and reinvent himself as a modern day Rambo to somehow justify his actions.</p>
<p>I have posted my comments under my real name and my service as a Navy fighter pilot during the Vietnam era is fully documented.  Why are you afraid to disclose your true identity while attacking the meritorious service of others?</p>
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		<title>By: Leland</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Fighter Pilot,

Have you ever heard of a Warrant Officer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Fighter Pilot,</p>
<p>Have you ever heard of a Warrant Officer?</p>
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		<title>By: Leland</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator>Leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Bill White is for real, he is a traitor to each and everyone of us that served honorably. I&#039;ll bet money he isn&#039;t even old enough to remember what it was like in the 1960s.

I freely admit that I would not have signed up for the Navy if my birthday did not come up so early in the lottery. It was not the same as being dragged in to service kicking and screaming every inch of the way, but it was very close to that.

So what. I served. I did my job.

Does that make me any less honorable then some semi-suicidal maniac that volunteered for Vietnam because he thought it would be fun to kill people? (Yes, those did exist. I knew one of them.)

I tend to believe President Bush&#039;s side of events. I too was told what boxes to check on the forms in order to get my job. (That didn&#039;t work out either, but that is another story.)

I don&#039;t blame Bush. No one my age knew why we were fighting in Vietnam. We didn&#039;t care what the reasons were either. No one was threatening our neighborhood. The shores of our country were not being invaded. Very few of my peers had the bad judgment to volunteer for that mess.

Billy, based on the things I read and the terminology you use in your writing it is doubtful you are now or ever were in the service. You are painfully uninformed on your military subject matter.

For one simple example, the military does not &quot;leapfrog&quot; personnel. They call that being &quot;passed over&quot; for an assignment. A recruit three weeks into boot knows that.

I think you are rewriting Bush hate sites. I think you are a liar about your service record. I also think some recently made a federal law about impersonating a veteran.

I will defend to the death your right to hold and speak whatever political views you choose. Even if those views are complete nonsense. It is your right and I would not change that even if it was my choice.

But I will not stand by and let you try to lay credence to your outlandish crap by claiming you are an honorably serving member of the armed forces when everything you write indicates otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Bill White is for real, he is a traitor to each and everyone of us that served honorably. I&#8217;ll bet money he isn&#8217;t even old enough to remember what it was like in the 1960s.</p>
<p>I freely admit that I would not have signed up for the Navy if my birthday did not come up so early in the lottery. It was not the same as being dragged in to service kicking and screaming every inch of the way, but it was very close to that.</p>
<p>So what. I served. I did my job.</p>
<p>Does that make me any less honorable then some semi-suicidal maniac that volunteered for Vietnam because he thought it would be fun to kill people? (Yes, those did exist. I knew one of them.)</p>
<p>I tend to believe President Bush&#8217;s side of events. I too was told what boxes to check on the forms in order to get my job. (That didn&#8217;t work out either, but that is another story.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame Bush. No one my age knew why we were fighting in Vietnam. We didn&#8217;t care what the reasons were either. No one was threatening our neighborhood. The shores of our country were not being invaded. Very few of my peers had the bad judgment to volunteer for that mess.</p>
<p>Billy, based on the things I read and the terminology you use in your writing it is doubtful you are now or ever were in the service. You are painfully uninformed on your military subject matter.</p>
<p>For one simple example, the military does not &#8220;leapfrog&#8221; personnel. They call that being &#8220;passed over&#8221; for an assignment. A recruit three weeks into boot knows that.</p>
<p>I think you are rewriting Bush hate sites. I think you are a liar about your service record. I also think some recently made a federal law about impersonating a veteran.</p>
<p>I will defend to the death your right to hold and speak whatever political views you choose. Even if those views are complete nonsense. It is your right and I would not change that even if it was my choice.</p>
<p>But I will not stand by and let you try to lay credence to your outlandish crap by claiming you are an honorably serving member of the armed forces when everything you write indicates otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: granpa jim</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>granpa jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you would like to determine if the Bush documents were faked or forged check doug clifford , a member of the Massachusetts Governors council on vets. I know for fact, of my own knowledge, that he forged and altered servive documents. He was a clerk in the Air Force so had the knowledge and experience to forge Air Force documents. He is the former head of Mass vets foe Kerry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you would like to determine if the Bush documents were faked or forged check doug clifford , a member of the Massachusetts Governors council on vets. I know for fact, of my own knowledge, that he forged and altered servive documents. He was a clerk in the Air Force so had the knowledge and experience to forge Air Force documents. He is the former head of Mass vets foe Kerry.</p>
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		<title>By: exlrrp</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>exlrrp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you stilll flogging this, Mr Goldberg?  George Bush did NOT voolunteeer for Vietnam, according to his own testimony.
In this interview http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4179618 with Tim Russert, watched by milllions, george Bush definitively says &quot;no I didn&#039;t&quot; when asked if he had volunteered for Vietnam. (see full quote below) There&#039;s no evidence he did and we have his own word for it that he didn&#039;t, which I see no reason to doubt (in this case). The truth is, he did NOT volunteer too go to Vietnam. Talking to other people about it doesn&#039;t count as volunteering if he didn&#039;t go to his unit and filll out the form
Therefore, any people who do say that he volunteered for Vietnam are lying, for their own reasons.
&quot;...Russert:  Were you favor of the war in Vietnam?

President Bush:  I supported my government.  I did.  And would have gone had my unit been called up, by the way.

Russert:  But you didn&#039;t volunteer or enlist to go.

President Bush:  No, I didn&#039;t.  ....&quot;

Your &quot;factoid&quot; that mary Mapes withheld important informattion about Bush&#039;s service means nothing. It never happened---according to Bush himself, so she wasn&#039;t withholding anything. She probably, along with millions of other people, heard him say&quot; No I didn&#039;t&quot; when aasked about it and took him at his word.
Wy don&#039;t you research the people who want to spread this lie about him?
Amd while youre at  it, why don&#039;t you research the fact that Bush&#039;s discharge shows him with NO medalls at all, not even thee  NDSm which everyone gets for 6 months of service. Thats right, Bush&#039;s minions slandered the medals of a Silver Start winner for a man who got nO medals at all on his discharge. Why don&#039;t you research the fact that it says NONE in his qualification box, tho it says he was a &quot;Pilot1125d&quot; in his MOS box-----how can one be a pilot when he&#039;s not qualified to do ANYTHING in the miltary? Why don&#039;t you research the snetnce on Bush&#039;s discharge that says &quot;&quot;...Officer has a six year miliitary serviice obliigatiion...... and has completed 5 years 4 months and 5 days of this obligation?...&quot; Some one who only competes 5 years 4 months and 5 days of an obligation can hardly claaim to hhave completed the  obligation---can he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you stilll flogging this, Mr Goldberg?  George Bush did NOT voolunteeer for Vietnam, according to his own testimony.<br />
In this interview <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4179618" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4179618</a> with Tim Russert, watched by milllions, george Bush definitively says &#8220;no I didn&#8217;t&#8221; when asked if he had volunteered for Vietnam. (see full quote below) There&#8217;s no evidence he did and we have his own word for it that he didn&#8217;t, which I see no reason to doubt (in this case). The truth is, he did NOT volunteer too go to Vietnam. Talking to other people about it doesn&#8217;t count as volunteering if he didn&#8217;t go to his unit and filll out the form<br />
Therefore, any people who do say that he volunteered for Vietnam are lying, for their own reasons.<br />
&#8220;&#8230;Russert:  Were you favor of the war in Vietnam?</p>
<p>President Bush:  I supported my government.  I did.  And would have gone had my unit been called up, by the way.</p>
<p>Russert:  But you didn&#8217;t volunteer or enlist to go.</p>
<p>President Bush:  No, I didn&#8217;t.  &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your &#8220;factoid&#8221; that mary Mapes withheld important informattion about Bush&#8217;s service means nothing. It never happened&#8212;according to Bush himself, so she wasn&#8217;t withholding anything. She probably, along with millions of other people, heard him say&#8221; No I didn&#8217;t&#8221; when aasked about it and took him at his word.<br />
Wy don&#8217;t you research the people who want to spread this lie about him?<br />
Amd while youre at  it, why don&#8217;t you research the fact that Bush&#8217;s discharge shows him with NO medalls at all, not even thee  NDSm which everyone gets for 6 months of service. Thats right, Bush&#8217;s minions slandered the medals of a Silver Start winner for a man who got nO medals at all on his discharge. Why don&#8217;t you research the fact that it says NONE in his qualification box, tho it says he was a &#8220;Pilot1125d&#8221; in his MOS box&#8212;&#8211;how can one be a pilot when he&#8217;s not qualified to do ANYTHING in the miltary? Why don&#8217;t you research the snetnce on Bush&#8217;s discharge that says &#8220;&#8221;&#8230;Officer has a six year miliitary serviice obliigatiion&#8230;&#8230; and has completed 5 years 4 months and 5 days of this obligation?&#8230;&#8221; Some one who only competes 5 years 4 months and 5 days of an obligation can hardly claaim to hhave completed the  obligation&#8212;can he?</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-703</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush and Harkin
Both were fighter pilots.
Both served their country with honor.
One embellished his service record for political gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush and Harkin<br />
Both were fighter pilots.<br />
Both served their country with honor.<br />
One embellished his service record for political gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Cooler</title>
		<link>http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/rathergate-part-1-an-update/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Cooler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy Boy
We&#039;re still waiting for your combat time and Vietnam service medals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy Boy<br />
We&#8217;re still waiting for your combat time and Vietnam service medals.</p>
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