Rutgers … and More Evidence of Liberal Intolerance

RUCondoleezza Rice was supposed to be the guest speaker this month at the Rutgers University graduation ceremonies in New Brunswick, New Jersey.  She won’t be there.  Eighty- eight days after she accepted the invitation, she said thanks but no thanks.

When it was announced that she had been chosen to speak at graduation and receive an honorary degree, left-wing members of the faculty passed resolutions calling for her to be “disinvited.”  About 100 students protested outside the office of the university president, some with signs calling her a “war criminal” because of her role in the Iraq War and the Bush administration’s use of waterboarding.

Ms. Rice, the former secretary of state, had had enough.

“Commencement should be a time of joyous celebration for the graduates and their families,” she noted. “Rutgers’ invitation to me to speak has become a distraction for the university community at this very special time.”

“I am honored to have served my country. I have defended America’s belief in free speech and the exchange of ideas. These values are essential to the health of our democracy. But that is not what is at issue here,” she said. “As a professor for thirty years at Stanford University and as (its) former provost and chief academic officer, I understand and embrace the purpose of the commencement ceremony and I am simply unwilling to detract from it in any way.”

Who could blame her?

There’s something especially pathetic when liberal intolerance shows up, of all places, on a college campus. Students who would gladly welcome Hillary Clinton, who as a U.S. senator voted to go to war in Iraq, could not tolerate Ms. Rice.  It’s also a safe bet that liberals would have been overjoyed if Barack Obama were invited to speak at their graduation, despite the fact that he – a Nobel Peace Prize winner — has killed more human beings with drones (many, but not all, who deserved it) than anyone in the history of the planet.

The president of Rutgers, Robert Barchi, never wavered in his support of the selection of Ms. Rice, saying it was important for the university to stand up for free speech and academic freedom.

“Whatever your personal feelings or political views about our commencement speaker,” he wrote to the university community in March, “there can be no doubt that Condoleezza Rice is one of the most influential intellectual and political figures of the last 50 years.”

A Muslim terrorist, or some domestic intellectual known for trashing America, would get more respect from the Rutgers faculty and its left wing students than they showed Ms. Rice.

So, for anyone who has followed the illiberal tactics of some liberals on America’s college campuses, the Condi Rice incident isn’t much of a shock.  Shouting down speakers with whom they disagree, dis-inviting conservatives, even throwing pies at guest speakers they don’t like, is nothing new.  Still, it is troubling that so few supposedly open-minded liberals – on a campus of about 31,000 undergraduates — can make so much noise and manage to get their way.

While President Barchi was on the right side of this travesty, I wish he had gone further.  I wish he had told his left wing faculty that their displeasure with Ms. Rice was noted but that we’re all displeased about something or other at some point.  “Get over it,” he might have said. And he should have told his students, if any of them disrupted Ms. Rice’s remarks in any way, they would be hauled off and arrested – right there in front of Mommy and Daddy.  And if he could legally get away with it, he should also have informed them they would not be getting their degree anytime soon.

In the end, Condi Rice did the right thing.  Who needs the hassle?  Rutgers, a university that opened its doors in 1766, 10 years before there was a United States of America, has let a relatively few liberals embarrass the entire school.  As I say, normally I wouldn’t think this is noteworthy, given how common stuff like this is on college campuses. But Rutgers is my alma mater.  I should be proud of my school, a university that has educated young people for nearly 250 years.  Today, I’m anything but.

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  • buckrodgers

    Most colleges are populated with professors who preferred the summer of love over the jungles of Vietnam, these are people who used their white privileges to get hired at a time discrimination was prevalent all across the United States, They prospered while African Americans and poor whites were being sent in record numbers to fight and die in Vietnam, now they hide behind tenure and attack Americans for not sharing the wealth with the less fortunate,at the same time their demanding more money,which puts college out of reach for working Americans, they are Americas first generation of cowards, hypocrites who want to live in the lap of luxury, their legends in their own minds, closet racist who attack anybody who threatens their wealth and privileges, if they really cared about low income and middle class Americans who make huge sacrifices in order to send their kids to college, they would take huge pay cuts, but all they care about is number one and why not they were born selfish and they will die selfish.

  • Bulldog

    As a lifetime Alumnae of Rutgers, I have already notified the Alumnae Association that a very generous gift (7 figures) I included in my will is now to be withdrawn. I will not and neither will some of my rather well to do colleagues give one penny to this institution, which while plummeting academically, has turned into a socialist bastion. To hell with Rutgers and to hell with political correctness.

    • Jonathan

      I am 28 and going back to school at Rutgers at night. I am going for my bachelors in labor relations and management then hopefully MBA down the road. I hope I graduate before this downhill cycle destroys the integrity of this institution. I am a skilled tradesman going back to school now that I can afford do pay my way to try and climb the ladder and go after my initial goals of someday running and then owning a industrial plant. The kids run around protesting minimum wage, screw them how can one justify paying a “french fry chef” 20 dollars an hour? Its not a hard job and I could train a french poodle to do it, I’m glad you made this post sir. Please rest assured I’m a current Rutgers student and I hate these intolerant ignorant idiots. Not all is lost.

  • Marine Gunner

    To understand this phenomenon it helps to review historical regimes that have exhibited this type of thought control policy; they are universally scary. These regimes have ended up in failure but along the way murdered millions of innocent people in their attempt to impose their ideology on people who disagreed with them. These politically correct campus tyrants are no less dangerous; they just haven’t had an opportunity (yet) to obtain the power to force themselves on us … although the Obama administration is doing their best to help.

  • Chris Matthewson

    Bernie says that “Barack Obama…has killed more human beings with drones (many, but not all, who deserved it) than anyone in the history of the planet.” That’s like saying Abraham Lincoln killed more human beings with Gatling guns than anyone in the history of the planet. Bernie’s statement, although literally true, is ridiculous when you realize that drone attacks are a very recent and uniquely American development in warfare.

    As for the point of Bernie’s piece, Bernie and all Rutgers alumni can express there displeasure by cutting back on their alumni donations.

    BTW, I’m glad Rutgers is considering having Dick Cheney give the commencement instead.

  • Darren Perkins

    Very heartfelt and true Bernie. I did not go to Rutgers but I know I would feel the same.

  • scott autry

    “There’s something especially pathetic when liberal intolerance shows up, of all places, on a college campus.”

    This is one of the reasons my own attitude toward liberalism shifted from disagreement to anger and even hatred at times (which isn’t healthy). It is the hypocrisy factor I can’t stand.

    They pat themselves on the back for being so open-minded and tolerant while using the other hand to bash people who don’t agree with them in the face. Why they can’t see the contradiction in their beliefs and actions stuns me. How can’t they get it?

    The Free Speech Zones movement at college is the epitome of what is wrong with them: For a long time, liberalism gained traction within the populace by fighting for Free Speech at a time when the average person could be convinced there were some problems with censorship and punishing people for their beliefs. The college campus was one of the biggest battle zones for them.

    But, since they got the upper hand on campus a few decades ago, they are more than happy to create things like small Free Speech Zones where you can say anything you want – which only highlights how you aren’t free to say the same things elsewhere at the college.

    I graduated from a small college where the staff was highly liberal and the student body had a high percentage of conservative Christians. I liked many of my professors and kept up with a few of them for years and years, but it was obvious they hated large chunks of the students in their classes. They remained professional, but if you got to know them, and didn’t wear your own religious or conservative ideas on your sleeve, you got a chance to see just how many of them truly despised the type of students our non-denominational Christian school attracted. (The head of the Philosophy/Religion Department had a habit in an introductory class of asking students at the end of it for a show of hands for people who had believed Christ was the only way to heaven before the course began – then – asked for those who no longer believed it to put their hands down. This same “open-minded” professor harangued a guess speaker on Christianity to the point it became a screaming match which led the speaker to leave the stage.)

    One of the professors I have remained friends with once told me nonchalantly the faculty would never allow the hiring of a conservative. He said this in response to my pointing out how the board of trustees and students were conservative, for the most part, but the profs were overwhelmingly liberal. He said the above as if it had never occurred to them that refusing to allow diversity in thought was a bad thing.

    My adviser, who I also kept in touch with, told me I had to go to graduate school outside of the South – or that would be the only place where I’d ever be able to teach – which he clearly meant was like having to live in Purgatory.

    I was always curious what he and his wife (another prof) were going to do when their children got old enough for secondary school. They could educated them on campus until then, but they’d have to go off campus for middle and high school. Given how they talked, I couldn’t picture that happening: That they would allow their children to be influenced by the redneck Christian conservative idiot townie teens…

    Yes, these guys are really the tolerant ones….Sure….Right…

  • wally12

    Bernie: I have some disagreement with this article. I am disappointed with Rice. I was impressed with her intelligence and as secretary of State. However, I think she made a mistake in not speaking at the graduation. Sure there would have been some protests. So what? Her back down indicates to me that she doesn’t have the stomach to stand up to the few that would be protesting. If she would have attended and spoke, the protests would have been highlighted and published in every paper and news media. The protests would point to more of the left’s intolerance for free speech and would gin up the right’s claims that the left is intolerant. I also had a disagreement with how Rice went along with the notion that banning the word bossy would result in an improvement to young girls to stand up for their right to be assertive. Banning a word is not getting to the root cause of girls being assertive or not. It is about training at home and school where the young girls learn that calling names needs to be addressed by all men and women. The girls need to recognize that they need to develop thicker skins. The same goes for boys.

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @DREW PAGE.Another one of your wise, excellent comments. Was she protesting the USS Cole, The Twin Towers, The Boston Marathon and how about the blowing up of the United State Marine barracks in Beiruit (?) That was in the 80’s? Not to forget the attempted blowing up of the twin towers in 1993..@JAS..Since when do Muslims attending Rutgers have a say in who speaks and who doesn’t speak when based on their religious beliefs..NOT! DON’T. When I see them in their attire/garb picketing, protesting the above mentioned, then they might have a say in whomever speaks at college graduation exercises. Until then. ZIP IT UP and go howl to the sun

  • http://att.net/ patty

    I can’t think of any college graduate (me included) that could get so pissed off with a speaker that they/I would walk out and not walking on the stage and getting my diploma that I shed blood, sweat and tears to receive. I see no “dignity” of a person/students “quietly” walking out just because they didn’t like the speaker. Chris Crisco is confused. Legally, police have no authority to arrest students walking out in the middle of a speech (quietly and with dignity) ha. Just wait until those who PROTESTED Rice speaking get out in the REAL WORLD AND THEY DON’T AGREE WITH THE REVIEW THEIR BOSS GAVE THEM BECAUSE “THEY” DIDN’T AGREE WITH HIS ASSESSMENT OF THEIR PERFORMANCE! and tells them..THEY NEED TO BE MORE OPEN MINDED TO LEARNING/LISTENING.. AND.. IT ISN’T YOUR/THEIR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY..You think those Rutger’s protestors are going to walk out of the bosses office quietly and with dignity. Their ass would be grass and the boss would be the lawn mower!

    • Tim Bertram Black

      Dude…. this is nothing new! College kids have been making spectacles of themselves for decades… Bernie’s talking like this is something new!
      He would have been burning Beatles records with the rest of the fuddy-duddies back in the early 60’s.
      Plus, he’s inciting “you people”… you fringy creepy folks. I don’t know to what… but Hate Machines like you are capable of blowing up federal buildings… so, if I was him… I’d be careful about getting you folks so lathered up that you write in all caps about crap you don’t understand…
      Does anyone remember the 30’s? The 40’s? The 50’s? The 60’s? The 70’s? The 80’s? The 90’s? The 00’s? None of this stuff is new.
      It’s like every generation of “you people” has to get engorged with gall at what happens on campuses….
      I can hear you now: “derp, no this is derp diff-rant… Obama is a muslin socialist … derp … completely derp …”

  • Chris Crisco

    Is this the same Condoleezza Rice who was at the forefront of the Ban Bossy movement that you so ridiculed earlier? I for one would love to hear Ms. Rice discuss her role in the biggest foreign policy blunder/scandal in history. Now turning to your empty threat. What if the entire Rutgers student body and faculty exercised their right to nonverbal free speech and quietly with dignity walked out of the room? Leaving Ms. Rice to exercise her own free speech right to empty seats? On what grounds would you have them hauled off and arrested? Suppose, let’s say, Liberty University invited President Obama to deliver the commencement speech, what do you suppose the faculty/student body reaction might be? Of course not even for a nanosecond would they even consider such blasphemy, so it’s “academic” so to speak.

    • Jeff Webb

      >>…the biggest foreign policy blunder/scandal in history.<> Now turning to your empty threat.<> What if the entire Rutgers student body and faculty exercised their
      right to nonverbal free speech and quietly with dignity walked out of
      the room?<> Suppose, let’s say, Liberty University invited President Obama to
      deliver the commencement speech, what do you suppose the faculty/student body reaction might be?<<

      They'd protest, but they wouldn't demand his invitation be withdrawn.

      • Chris Crisco

        I’d say it’s a fact, can you name a bigger one? I’d say being hauled off and arrested constitutes a threat don’t you think? Did students vote to invite her? Well they obviously changed their minds. They’d protest but wouldn’t demand the invitation be withdrawn? Is that a fact or your opinion?

        • Integrity

          I knew it! Bernie is quite the menacing one. Run while you still can! QED

        • Jeff Webb

          >>I’d say it’s a fact<>can you name a bigger one?<> I’d say being hauled off and arrested constitutes a threat don’t you think?<> Did students vote to invite her?<>Well they obviously changed their minds.<>They’d protest but wouldn’t demand the invitation be withdrawn? Is that a fact or your opinion?<<

          Since your question was "what do you suppose the faculty/student body reaction might be?", it's supposition.

          • Chris Crisco

            Well then if it was only some faculty members and a handful of students that protested, and she was not disinvited but backed down of her own accord, then that is on her, and kind of deflates the story to a non-story don’t you think? Turning to your other semantics issues, notwithstanding that he prefaced it by ascribing it to Barchi, it was Goldberg who voiced the threat (That seems to be a common practice for Goldberg, recall that he ascribed an entire speech to Obama assigning him the title of headnigga and the responsibility of convincing the entire black community that they are a single entity with the collective burden of proving to the white majority that they are harmless). And when I see you preface every statement with “In my opinion…” then I will do likewise. You want to play word games go play Scrabble with Brian Langley (I make the odds about 100 to 1 on Brian).

          • Jeff Webb

            >>if it was only some faculty members and a handful of students that
            protested, and she was not disinvited but backed down of her own accord,
            then that is on her<> recall that he ascribed an entire speech to Obama assigning him the
            title of headnigga and the responsibility of convincing the entire black
            community that they are a single entity with the collective burden of
            proving to the white majority that they are harmless)<>And when I see you preface every statement with “In my opinion…” then I will do likewise.<>You want to play word games go play Scrabble with Brian Langley (I make the odds about 100 to 1 on Brian).<<

            Calm yourself down, sweetie, and work on your communication skills.

          • Integrity

            You can’t reason with someone that thinks Bernie’s articles contain threats against others. QED

          • Jeff Webb

            True true, but I believe in helping the more ignorant visitors leave here better-informed. That’s just the kind of swell guy I am.

          • Chris Crisco

            If the swelling persists for more than 4 hours you better run to the doctor fast before it explodes!

          • Jeff Webb

            In case anyone gives a hoot:

            “Chris Crisco” was actually the long ago-banned troll IHateFascists, back yet again to indulge his obsession.

            Before he got deleted, in his last post he asked if Bernie would speak for himself next time instead of trotting out John D. and me to “stick up for him.”

            To IHF, whom I know will read this if he hasn’t already: Bernie doesn’t “trot” us out, and wouldn’t even need to. This is an open forum (for people who respect the rules), and we post at nobody’s behest.

            I want to thank you for making that assumption, though. Your believing you’re remotely worth Bernie’s time gave me a nice, hearty laugh.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            IHF’s ongoing narrative that people who don’t bother to reply to Internet trolls are doing so out of cowardice gives me a chuckle every time. lol.

          • Chris Crisco

            So you think if you shut me up you win the debate? Typical bloviating blowhard right wing mentality. And the hypocrisy of this display of intolerance in response to Goldberg trying to portray liberals as intolerant. No doubt this irony has not escaped you. Listen up Webb-Master. No one is intimidated by you. Not worth Goldberg’s time? Anyone with any credibility who writes an article that is thoroughly debunked should feel compelled to respond don’t you think? Then again anyone with any credibility would not write such drivel in the first place.

          • Chris Crisco

            Notwithstanding your opinion of them, the faculty members and students have as much right to free speech as Ms. Rice does. If Ms. Rice chooses voluntarily to relinquish her right on the basis of them (and let’s not lose sight that we are not talking about a bunch of rednecks with shotguns here) exercising their right then as a matter of fact yeah, that is on her.

            http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/if-president-obama-had-a-son-he-might-look-like/

            I told you I am not going to play word games with you. Sweetie? You need to get some stick on your … well nevermind.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Notwithstanding your opinion of them, the faculty members and students have as much right to free speech as Ms. Rice does.<<

            Straw man. The point is, her critics weren't satisfied with merely staging a protest; they also demanded that her invitation to speak be withdrawn. Just like Bernie said in the column title, that's evidence of liberal intolerance.

            I know Sec. Rice voluntarily declined–I never said she was forced out by the protestors or anybody else. It wasn't about that. It wasn't that they spoke up about her. It wasn't even that they didn't like that she'd be giving a speech. It's that THEY DEMANDED IT NOT HAPPEN. When Rice chose to decline, that didn't suddenly make the protestors tolerant. Do you understand now?

            I checked the link. What confused me was you made it seem like "headnigga" was actually said by Bernie, and not your simplistic take on his column. He may lean a little left on some topics, but he's not so liberal that he'd use that word in that context.

          • Chris Crisco

            So a handful of students/faculty were intolerant and presumably liberal so that proves that all liberals are intolerant? It proves nothing and this is a non-story. Do liberals collectively claim to be sheepish and submissive and tolerant of everything at all times? Not on your life. My simplistic take on Goldberg’s column? Then pray tell O Wise One what is your take on it? Goldberg would never that word in that context? Pretty weak if that is the best defense you can come up with.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>So a handful of students/faculty were intolerant and presumably liberal so that proves that all liberals are intolerant?<>Do liberals collectively claim to be sheepish and submissive and tolerant of everything at all times?<>Goldberg would never that word in that context? Pretty weak if that is the best defense you can come up with.<<

            Now that there's just hurtful, precious.

          • Chris Crisco

            Nobody said “all liberals”? Read it again:

            “There’s something especially pathetic when liberal intolerance shows up …”
            “Still, it is troubling that so few supposedly open-minded liberals…can make so much noise and manage to get their way”

            What was that saying again about when facts are not on your side just keep arguing? Whatever Pops. I’m done playing word games with you.

          • Jeff Webb

            I’m impressed, IHF. You disguised yourself a little better than usual this time.

            If you weren’t such a hostile, dishonest little twerp, you’d be a pretty good conversationalist. Hasta tu nombre falso que viene (until your next fake name).

          • Chris Crisco

            Next time perhaps Goldberg will come out of hiding and speak for himself? That he always trots you and Daly out to stick up for him speaks volumes of his gutlessness.

        • chas615

          Uhhhhh…..Viet Nam?

          • Chris Crisco

            Fair enough. Second biggest

  • Suellen

    Bravo Bernie!!

  • lark2

    I love it when Liberals show who they really are … just as I love it every time Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid show off their Liberalism. One would have to be dumb , deaf, and blind to not see these people for what they are. RUTGERS UNIVERSITY is a Liberal cesspool the citizens of The great state of New Jersey have paid BILLIONS to build … congratulations.

    • Suellen

      Yes

  • hihoze

    Welcome to the new Democratic National Socialist Workers Party. We tolerate everyone except those we hate.

  • brickman

    I think Ms. Rice should be allowed to speak. In fact, I ‘d like to hear more from her. She can start with by releasing the speech she was going to give on September 11,2001. She is advocating for the free flow of ideas . let’s see what she was thinking that morning.

  • bigmoejr

    I thought I’d give a ratzass, but I just can’t find a spare one.

  • FloridaJim

    Since the 1960’s our high schools and colleges have not been teaching our students how to think but what to think. The fruits of this we now see with so many young people led by overpaid and underworked professor’s preventing schools from hearing any Conservative voice. Freedom is only for progressives and their ideas, old and failed though they may be.

  • Larry Shaw

    This is just another added reason how the negative libersl obama admin agenda has ruined this country , even many colleges , that follow al this !!

  • mcveen

    Where is Sharpton when we need him?

  • Brian Stover

    I remember when families and educators taught the concepts of tolerance and respect. It is sad when institutions of higher learning fail to impart these concepts to their students.

    • legal eagle

      Oh for the good old days…..When things were simple and Wally and the Beaver came home and ate dinner at the table….LOL

      • Jeff Webb

        Just when we thought that one was gone for good, you pull it out of the wastebasket, dust it off, and stink up the site with it again.

      • Brian Stover

        I always enjoy hearing from you, LE, even when I do not agree.

        Unlike June Cleaver, my mom did not do housework and serve dinner in high heels.

        • legal eagle

          Never noticed that….Next time I watch an episode I’ will check it out…LOL
          What did Mr. Cleaver do for a living…Was he a CIA covert agent?

          • Brian Stover

            According to Wikipedia, in season 3 Ward Cleaver was revealed to work for a trust company.

            I think that he was born in a dark suit, white shirt and tie.

            I’d like to think that when he was on a business trip, he met June who was working as a stripper. That would account for her ability to do housework in heels.

  • Concernedarizonan

    Why not…..when one fruitcake by the name of Reid decides what bills get voted on in the senate.

  • JASVN67

    So, a couple of fruit cakes get to decide who is worthy to speak on Campus, the Founding Father’s must be Turning in their graves on that one! If the left could have it their way, the Constitution would have been scrapped a long time ago!

    • legal eagle

      The Founding Fathers would be still be arguing about slavery…

  • loupgarous

    Where’s the Ohio National Guard when you need them?

    • legal eagle

      Hopefully in prison where some of them belong..

  • http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T00&msg=Time+left+until+Obama+leaves+office FullAuto

    In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

    In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.

    In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

    In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

    In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

    In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

    In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

    In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

    In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen, TX.

    In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

    In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

    In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.

    In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

    In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

    In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

    In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

    In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

    In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.

    As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

    Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders.

    • legal eagle

      Amazing trivia…what’s next Democratic pedophile priests?…..LOL

      • sjangers

        Democratic pedophile Hollywood moguls. Coming soon to a theatre near you!

    • brickman

      Reagan was shot in 1981 not 1983.

  • Alice

    They do not deserve to vote and chose another loser to run this once fine country! How will our country ever recover? Talk about the tail wagging the dog

    • legal eagle

      The country will recover when you get back on your meds…

  • joepotato

    Maybe they should’ve invited invited Al “internet” Gore to blather on about global warming, climate change or halitosis… I’m sure the leftbots would have been open for that…

  • Daniel

    Ms. Rice is anything but far right. These idiots don’t even understand their own bias. They are exactly what Hillary will be looking for I the near future, and they deserve each other in my opinion.

    • Drew Page

      But the rest of us deserve something better.

  • charles

    These are the same people who invited Snooky from the Mensa recommended “Jersey Shore”. They paid her $35K. Her words were study hard. Party hardy. This is the state University of New Jersey. Taxpayers need new education facility.

    • Drew Page

      We can only assume that the Rutgers faculty members who objected to Condi Rice as a commencement speaker had no qualms with ‘Snooki’. So much for their commitment to higher learning.

      Congratulations are in order for the Rutgers University president who stood his ground and kept the invitation to Ms. Rice open and to the vast majority of graduating students who had no problem with her invitation. Kudos to Ms. Rice for declining the invitation and for not turning the Rutgers graduation into a political maelstrom. Of course her critics will say she was a ‘coward’ for turning down the invitation. Those same critics would have accused her of narcissism had she accepted the speaking engagement.

      Perhaps a better way to choose commencement speakers would be to poll graduating students asking for their input, announcing a consensus choice and then extending an invitation. Students and faculty objecting to this choice have the option of not attending the ceremony. Anyone disrupting the ceremony should be escorted from the premises. Everyone has a right to free speech and to voice their opinion but the rights of a minority who wish to protest should not trump the right of majority who wish to hear what a speaker has to say.

      If conservatives don’t want to hear what a commencement speaker has to say, they will either not attend the commencement speech or will patiently sit through it, disregarding what that speaker has to say. Liberals, want to prevent anyone from hearing what the speaker they oppose has to say.

  • Hankster

    Excellent article, Bernie. In my opinion, one of your best! Since 65%+ of the population depend on the media industry to tell them how to think and act, the likelihood of society changing for the better seems very remote. Any solutions to this other than constant prayer and divine intervention?!

  • http://att.net/ patty

    Two questions! a. DO YOU WANT TO BE RIGHT? OR
    b. DO YOU WANT TO BE A RIGHT FIGHTER? In the case of Rice, she chose not be be a “right fighter” and decided it was in the best interest of the “graduating students” who worked hard, made many sacrifices for four or + years to have their graduation day remain a special memory. Not people yelling out remarks, booing or bantering with the “wanna be right fighters.” just saw a young Muslim woman student in her “attire” speaking out “against” Condoleezza Rice/accusing her of killing, causing the death of many people, etc. Since when do we let some foreigner with their religious beliefs run our country? @SHANE..glad you noticed as I did and where are the rest who noticed?

    • Drew Page

      I saw it too and had the same reaction. If she tried that back where she came from she wouldn’t be alive to tell the tale. I can’t help but wonder where and how she protested the attack on the USS Cole, the Twin Towers on 9/11, the Boston Marathon bombing and the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

  • KAG505

    I am sure that someone like Michael Moore is more to the liking of the graduates. He will be able to get down to the level of the graduates of this ……institute of higher learning.

    • sjangers

      After the ceremony they might have to fight him on the way to the buffet. Talk about your carbon footprints!

      • loupgarous

        The cloud of methane around Michael Moore would make nonsense of Rutgers’ liberal brownshirts’ concerns about fracking.

        • sjangers

          One of those Earth in the Balance moments?

        • mcveen

          loupgarous, love your sarcasm. Apparently, some humans do contribute to global warming (individually).

    • brickman

      Eric LeGrand the replacement speaker for Rice, is a better choice for this graduating class . I don’t think Rice should
      have been forced out but they got a more appropriate
      speaker. All ‘ s.well that ends well.

  • D Parri

    The beauty of free speech. Now, when the tolerant majority have had enough of being manipulated by the intolerant “liberal” handful, they should say “enough!”

    Or, they could keep inviting ‘Snooki’ to commemorate their greatest achievement at this point in their life. No wonder we are a nation in decline.

    • sjangers

      “Snooki: Aspire to irrelevance”. It does have an inspiring ring to it.

  • Brian Bradford

    Conservatives are so tolerant. http://youtu.be/4XiizB9Lkqk

    • Mike

      Brian, Pointing out bad behavior to justify other bad behavior is just lame. And your little dig that “Conservatives are so tolerant” is sad, too. Liberals claim to be so open-minded, enlightened and tolerant, but only if you think and act just like them. Do you see any irony there?

      • sjangers

        Conservatives are at least as tolerant as they claim to be. Liberals… not so much.

        • legal eagle

          Boston Bruin fans are not that tolerant either…

          • sjangers

            And if they don’t pick up their game a bit we’re going to get even less tolerant.

          • legal eagle

            How do you think we Rangers fans feel?

          • sjangers

            Don’t know. Don’t care. Not feeling a lot of empathy while we’re down 1-2.

          • legal eagle

            Rangers fans were booing the Rangers last night….says it all….too depressing to discuss further…LOL

          • sjangers

            That’s unfortunate. Hoping my guys get back on track tonight. If they do, I’ll be back to you tomorrow with a more empathetic response.

      • Drew Page

        Liberals love to attack conservatives who preach “family values” and then get caught cheating on their wives. They then should understand it when conservatives attack liberals who preach “tolerance” and then prove to the world that they are the most intolerant people there are by attacking viciously any who disagree with their beliefs. Liberals are ‘pro’ women, minorities and gays, unless of course those people are conservatives. They despise “the rich”, except of course for the rich who are heavy contributors to their cause.

  • Shane

    I noticed a large number of Muslimas among the protestors, perhaps they are angry that the “great” Muslim, Saddam Hussein was toppled by W. Bush. Saddam had a lot in common with Muhammad, as both were ruthless warlords.

  • ZZ_Topgear

    I wish Rice would have spoke so the freakout could have been out in the open and ugly. It would have been a great opportunity to make the left jump the shark in public.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      You’re assuming the MSM would have covered it, had that happened. ;)

      • KAG505

        They would have been there in droves to cover the demonstrations against Ms. Rice, not what she had to say.

      • loupgarous

        I’m sure that one or two of the muslimas could have been induced to wear this year’s latest Semtex underwear….

  • gerald

    Where are the conservative and moderate professors and students at Rutgers and other universities and colleges? Why don’t they organize and stand up to their socialist professors and kids who belong in diapers? Where are they? Why don’t they demonstrate when a lefty is invited to speak at a commencement or other program?

    • Drew Page

      For the most part, conservative professors are not to be found on the campuses of colleges and universities. If they do manage to get hired, once word leaks out of their conservatism, they aren’t retained.

      Universities trip all over themselves trying to show how accepting of diversity they and how intolerant they are of “intolerance”. Yet all someone has to do is complain that something or someone has offended them and these places of higher learning rush to remove the “offending” thing or person from their presence. They have turned political correctness into an art form and have surrendered to the tyranny of the minority to prove their sensitivity.

  • http://att.net/ patty

    Why did Condoleezza Rice say “thanks, but no thanks.”? It’s called CLASS AND RESPECT FOR THE STUDENTS THAT WORKED SO VERY TO EARN THEIR COLLEGE DEGREE. A DAY OF CELEBRATION, JOY, HAPPINESS AND SHE DID NOT CHOOSE TO SPEAK AS SHE DIDN’T WANT TO BE A PART OF PITTING PEOPLE AGAINST EACH OTHER DUE TO POLITICAL DIFFERENCES. AND..You can be assured there would have been disruptions during her speech.

    • ZZ_Topgear

      Sometimes you have to literally stand up for what you believe in. It would have been an ugly spectacle, but the ugliness would have damaged the protesters’ position not Rice.

      • loupgarous

        Only in the minds of those of us who can distinguish cause from effect.

        Remember in Jed Weintrob’s leftpunk classic, “The F Word,” he managed to blame the violence in the massive demonstrations around the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York on the REPUBLICANS for “daring to hold their convention in the ‘most liberal city in America,'” thus establishing that liberalism, whatever it stands for, does not stand for freedom of speech any longer.

  • Barancy Peloma

    well said bernie.

  • Drew Page

    One wonders at the mentality of the faculty and students who demanded that Ms.Rice be dis-invited, but embraced with open arms the prior year’s commencement speaker, ‘Snooki’.

  • cantonst

    This reinforces my convictions that not everyone should go to college. In fact, very few are capable of benefiting from same. Now that a degree is no longer a guaranteed job ticket, maybe we will stop wasting millions in cash and debt to send little John and/or Jane somewhere they don’t belong.

    • Patrick

      As Judge Smails said in “Caddy Shack”, “The world needs ditch diggers, too!”

  • John Havlicek

    I have to wonder if, in years to come, the future-former-President-Obama will be met with the same displeasure for say his “droning” program that unfortunately takes out innocents (oops!), or say his putting the economy through a meat-grinder, maybe for only enforcing laws he agrees with? (just in case there’s any doubt, the above was written with extreme sarcasm) You see, the “Party of tolerance” is actually only tolerant if you happen to agree with them. Step slightly away from rigid liberal dogma and they’re all over you like stink on a wet dog.

    Ms Rice is an inspiration, and her achievements (as well as her demeanor) ought to be held up as something we all should strive for. Rutgers should bear the shame of this little episode for a long time.

    • LAPhil

      Off-topic question, but are you THE John Havlicek or is that just a screen name?

      • Jeff Webb

        He is a distant relative of Hondo.

    • legal eagle

      We should celebrate Condi Rice’s “demeanor”……What do you know about her demeanor? LMAO

      • sjangers

        Between Ms. Rice and Oprah, I’m pretty sure that Oprah is demeanor of the two.

        • legal eagle

          Neither one has ever been married, or has any kids, which is why they both have wonderful demeanors……LOL

          • sjangers

            : )

          • mcveen

            Sounds like you’re against single, non-bearing women there Beagles. There might be some racism in there too.

          • legal eagle

            The person it was written to understood the humor…perhaps you might try it..

      • mcveen

        Another ‘stupid ass’, nonsensical remark from Beagles!

  • Ksp48

    Not to mention that this Ms. Rice is perhaps the most successful African American woman this nation has produced.

    • legal eagle

      I think Oprah Winfrey might disagree…LOL

      • sjangers

        So it’s all about respect for the people with the money, Eagle? Does that make you a plutocrat?

  • Barbara

    It is their loss that Ms. Rice will not be speaking. One college will have Nancy Pelosi speak at their commencement ceremony and will be charging the students an extra $10.00…sad.

    • Integrity

      Pelosi would be a great Jane Curtain in a SNL Point, Counterpoint skit. The only problem is that she redefined stupid. QED

    • Drew Page

      Pelosi should be paying at least $10.00 to every person having to suffer through her commencement speech. Can you hear her exhortations? “You have to sign that apartment lease in order to find out what’s in it.”

  • ulyssesmsu

    Good for you, Bernie. I agree 100%. Where is there any leadership on college campuses today?

  • paulbopko

    Rutgers? What do they have other than a football team and a girls/ladies hoops team.

    • Chuck

      Actually, Rutgers is a member of the AAU, American Association of Universities. AAU schools are among the elite research universities in America and Canada. AAU members include Harvard, Yale, Cal, Stanford, Michigan, Illinois, Northwestern, the University of Chicago, Duke, and McGill.

      The fact that a school is not among the toughest schools in terms of admissions doesn’t mean it’s a bad school. Any graduate of a Wisconsin high school can attend Wisconsin-Madison. So, it’s easy to get in. But, Wisconsin has a vert good reputation in the Midwest.

      A good friend of mine who lives in the New York area thinks highly of Rutgers. After all, Arthur Burns taught there, and Milton Friedman got his Bachelor’s there.

  • George

    A good friend of mine from N.J. went to Rutgers in the early 60’s. His dad was a retired Navy CPO and helped him get in to the school. I’ d hate to know how he would be treated today.

  • Jeff Metz

    This is a perfect example of the liberal extremism that openly exists on many American campuses these days. Its a sad day when someone such as Ms. Rice, who is openly respected by Congressional members from both parties, is subjected to such intolerance. Obviously Ms. Rice has immense class and understanding to take the stance she took. http://www.thepoliticalspectator.org

    • legal eagle

      Didn’t Ms. Rice cancel? A few students and faculty protest her appearance and she cancels? Why? Because they hurt her feelings or was the $35,000 fee insufficient?

      • Ksp48

        Can you not read? I’m sure there must be a remedial reading class at a JC near you.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Reading is very hard on legal. It takes away from his copy-and-paste time.

          • legal eagle

            John Daly suffers from mental constipation…..Hopefully he will seek treatment soon…

          • sjangers

            Take a break, Eagle. You’re starting to personalize a professional transaction.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. You’re punch drunk.

      • Drew Page

        Every time I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, you come up with a really stupid remark, like the one above.

        • legal eagle

          Thanks for the compliment….

      • Stimpy

        She didn’t feel like participating in a liberal freak show circus. She said she didn’t want to be a distraction. Are you calling this fine lady a liar? I’d call you a disgrace to your political persuasion but you are a fine example of what jerks most liberals are.

        • legal eagle

          Maybe she should have asked for more money? Could have helped her treat her thin skin..

          • Integrity

            They protested against her, she is black, therefore they must be racist. QED

          • nameless

            You’re the reason why I feel we should waterboard all liberals and kill them holocaust style

  • JMax

    I suppose there would have been no protests from the right had the invited speaker been Cecile Richards or Debo Adegbile or Hillary Clinton. Right?

    • SkyCitizen

      Nope, we’d just find a better use of our time; like looking for a job.

    • legal eagle

      Of course not. Those right wingers are so polite….LOL

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        If you could give me some examples of liberal speakers who’ve been harassed off of campuses, I’d love to hear about it and compare the numbers.

        • Drew Page

          John — I’ve invited JMax to do the same.

          • sjangers

            Won’t happen, Drew. That’s not why they’re here. They’ll call our conservatives on generalizations or hyperbole, but their disapproval doesn’t appear to be universal.

      • Jeff Webb

        >>Of course not. Those right wingers are so polite….LOL<<

        Ohh, poor, innocent wittle Democwat victims.

    • ulyssesmsu

      No. Right-wingers believe in free speech and the free exchange of ideas.

    • Tim Ned

      We will see. Joe Biden, if there was ever a person who should be stopped from speaking, will be delivering the commencement at USC.

      • JMax

        On what basis should the Vice-President by stopped from speaking? He is known to be very entertaining and down to earth.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          On topics that require knowledge? ;)

          Nah, I say let Biden speak anytime he wants. It reminds half the country how foolish they were for thinking Sarah Palin couldn’t pull off that job.

          • legal eagle

            Joe Biden accomplished more at age 30 then you will accomplish in your lifetime……Easy for a loser like yourself to criticize a distinguished public servant like Biden…

          • Stimpy

            Spoken by a true liberal intellectual. The real venom comes out from someone who accuses all conservatives of being ‘haters’.

          • Tim Ned

            ohhh you better re-quote yourself Jr. He didn’t make it to the senate until he was 31. Before that he spent his life in college and became an attorney.

            Just setting the record straight.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. I assume you’re joking, right? Tell me you’re joking… I beg of you.

            Biden is, as you pointed out, a public servant, which means… wait for it… that he serves the public. You and I pay his salary. So the notion that I can’t criticize him because I’ve never had any interest in becoming a career politician is beyond idiocy.

            It would be equally idiotic for me to suggest that you couldn’t criticize Sarah Palin or any other elected leader who I believe has achieved far more in their lifetime than you ever have.

            Of course, I wouldn’t do that, and neither would anyone else who chooses to live their life as something other than a political bumper-sticker stuck to one man’s rear-end.

            Now, please return to your regularly scheduled script of telling us we’re all racist, old, white guys.

          • sjangers

            “chooses to live their life as … a political bumper-sticker stuck to one man’s rear-end”

            Nice line, John! After almost seventy years ol’ Joe finally found his calling.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Actually, I was referring to legal. lol.

          • sjangers

            My fault. I took a couple of concepts- useless, clinging to another man’s butt- and immediately thought of Biden.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol.

          • JanelleHumbert

            John, I may have to use the bumper sticker line……I won’t take credit for it, though. I just wish I had thought of it. Many thanks for the laugh, as well!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. Have at it!

          • JanelleHumbert

            Planning on that for certain. It is wonderful when I discover truly fun posts about a column!

          • legal eagle

            You are not criticizing…you’re just a disrespectful douchebag…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Awwww… What’s wrong, legal? You get to call the public servants you don’t like racists, war criminals, and every other insulting name you can think of… but the second your beloved Joe Biden gets called out for being a dope, you declare that some line has
            suddenly been crossed?

            Either you’re the most self-unaware stooge on the Internet, or you’re a blood relative of Joe Biden. No other explanation makes sense.

          • Jeff Webb

            Macaulay Culkin accomplished more by age 14 than you have in YOUR lifetime. Says a whole lot about you, Slappy.

        • Stimpy

          Thanks for making Bernie’s point. A member of the liberal progressive administration, and a genuine buffoon, will no be doubt be treated with respect and decorum by liberal and conservative alike. I rest my case.

        • Tim Ned

          Actually, I personally like Joe Biden even though I don’t agree with his politics. My post was in jest. Since I believe the first one who would prefer he never spoke would be the President. I guess I should add LOL to that comment.

          However, I doubt very much that USC faculty or students will force a situation that Secretary Rice faced. So I say, we will see.

      • Jeff Webb

        Disagree there, Tim. A few minutes of that guy speaking, and the entire class will have nothing but positive thoughts for their future: “Wow, if THIS guy can be VP…”

    • Drew Page

      I will take a page from your playbook. Where is your proof that “those on the right” of university faculties and student bodies have demanded that invited speakers, such as the ones you mention, be uninvited? If you can’t supply the proof, then admit you don’t know what you are talking about.

      • JMax

        I don’t believe I said anything about being dis-invited. I said protests. And I also was speculating regarding those potential speakers. Are you suggesting that Cecile Richards would not be protested?

        • Stimpy

          Who the hell is Cecile Richards?

          • JMax

            No doubt. She is the daughter of Ann Richards and current president of Planned Parenthood.

        • Jeff Webb

          >>I don’t believe I said anything about being dis-invited.<<

          Right, but the protestors in Bernie's column did demand it. Do you equate people merely speaking out with people calling for a guest speaker to be disinvited?

    • ZZ_Topgear

      Almost all commencement speakers are left or left leaning. Rice is the only one I recall being protested.

      • JMax

        You don’t remember “Don’t taze me bro”?

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          That wasn’t a protest. He was just some clown making a fool out of himself for attention. By the way, he was a lefty.

    • mcveen

      No protest, not a peep! Cecile Richards or Debo Adegbile or Hillary Clinton is what we expect from the loony, self-serving leftists that rule college campuses. Can you explain why this crowd refuses to address the runaway costs of college education?

  • SkyCitizen

    The most polite way to disapprove a speaker is simply not to go. But polite is not in the Liberal lexicon. Professor approved boorish behaviour by some students is the standard. In 1966 not one college professor ever offered to take my place in the draft line. No they were too busy sending their noisy moronic surrogates into the streets, not for the horizontal returnees, but to save their own pampered asses. Some things never change.

    • captdot

      It was a professor in New York that whipped up students to harass General Petraeus as well.

      • legal eagle

        Whipped up students? Is that a sexual double entendre?

        • Stimpy

          Aren’t you the one who came up with the brilliant ‘General Betray Us’ moniker? Oh sorry, that was another liberal intellectual.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Only to the perverted mind.

          • sjangers

            Ooops.

        • captdot

          LOL!!

          • legal eagle

            Thank goodness a few people on this site have a sense of humor….

  • aloyisious

    So sane, so purposeful and right on….Bernie rises above this horrible Zeitgeist.

  • Tim in California

    Perfectly written Bernie… Same-o, same-o from the Universities….

  • savage24

    I use to have the misguided opinion that education was the solution to stupidity, but it appears that stupidity and hatred is an education unto itself. Our country today seems to be full of educated idiots unfit for everything but protesting.

  • Mainline

    Anyone doubting the presence of intolerant progressive liberals on college campuses around the US should read Tatiana Menaker’s article “My Second Marxist Indoctrination.” Imagine Tatiana’s surprise when, after the fall of the Iron Curtain, she enrolls in the University of San Fran to find that the faculty there is more communist and anti-American than the school she left behind in Leningrad. Should be required reading for all, especially those who will be paying tuition.Sadly this has become the norm.

  • gonaes

    To Hell with Rutgers University

    • legal eagle

      I agree…Screw Rutgers, Chris Christie and Bruce Springsteen….LOL

      • Jeff Webb

        “This just in: burglars using high-tech equipment broke into Donald Trump’s house and stole his prized collection of uniforms once worn by renowned professional athletes. Among the articles was former New York Giant Lawrence Taylor’s #56, autographed by the hall-of-fame linebacker. Mr. Trump was not available for comment, but his spokesman said he was planning to go out and buy a New Jersey.”

  • Ted Wight, Seattle

    Condi Rice exemplifies why Republicans lose. She gave in. They are polite, don’t want to disrupt, make waves while Progressives will eat their young to win. And Republicans lose. They have lost our country. CEOs fork out billions of their stockholders’ cash to “put it behind them” whatever “it” is. They are afraid of hurting their corporate images and stock prices while getting rid of corporate cash and paying off (ex)tort lawyers and the Progressives in government incenting them to do it again demanding more money. Which the Progressives have done it you haven’t noticed. Billions, tens of billions, for ever more “alleged” made up offenses. It works. AND NO ONE SEEMS TO GET THIS. CEOs and directors: please read “The Investors at War With Political Power” in the May 3 – 4 Wall Street Journal. And you directors play into Progressives’ hands by giving into “Corporate Governance” rather than standing up for free enterprise.
    No wonder America has been given to anti-business Progressives. Given! And it is failing. Failing!

    • legal eagle

      God Bless the Corporatists led by their spokesman Rupert Murdoch and the Wall Street Journal…

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        Corporatist – A term that useful idiots on the left are told by their handlers to use liberally (no pun intended) when posting on right-leaning websites.

        What would you type without those emails, legal?

      • Chuck

        So, you’ve never worked for a large corporation, and none of your family and friends ever did. Too bad. My father worked for a Fortune 500 company for 37 years, starting part-time after school in a plant and finishing as a senior executive.

        Now, I’m not the biggest Rupert fan, but I’ve been reading the WSJ since it was required reading for my 8th grade math class (we had to keep track of several stocks, both in terms of stock prices, earnings announcements, and other news). If you think that the WSJ only picked up its anti-Obama bent recently, think again. It’s been a pro-business paper for years. Even Harry Truman complained about getting slammed by the Journal.

        By the way, I would consider Warren Buffet a bigger corporatist than Rupert Murdoch, and he’s a Democrat. Think about that one.

      • ZZ_Topgear

        The State is the ultimate Corporation. Almost unlimited resources, power and limited responsibility for its actions.

  • Paul Rush

    Thank You Bernie for bringing this issue to our attention. The left has always been if you’re one of us everything is okay and you can say what you want without recrimination. But if you oppose us we will protest our so called indignation to the fullest and get our court jester journalists and bloggers to exacerbate our hypocrisy of beliefs . The left are hypocrites when it comes to freedom of speech. It is time to vote the left out and openly expose those who oppose free speech and the hypocrisy they espouse wherever they may be.

  • Brad Gillespie

    At least there’s nothing racist about their intolerance of Ms. Rice, as there would have been had she been liberal, and the intolerance came from more conservative faculty (if there are any). It’s a shame when there’s more tolerance for stupidity than there is for civilized respect.

  • not_fooled

    Why? to they hold the label of liberalism and progressives. What they are playing with is the label of Communists! You have many places in the world to ply your misguided thoughts. Get out of America!

  • Jarob54

    Well I did not attend Rutgers. I did attend and graduate college many moons ago. And in the 70’s it was a liberal environment. But here’s the rub. Liberals advertise themselves as open to all ideas, willing to explore all opportunities, willing to engage in discussion with all parties. Well, if and when this notion really existed, is a matter of discussion. It’s clear now that liberals don’t want open exchages of ideas, and they are not willing to listen to anyone who does not adhere to their philosophy.
    In my opinion Rutgers embarrassed themselves. They caved to a small number of liberal loons who are wet behind the ears and don’t know much about life and the real world. But that’s OK, for every snub a conservative receives it’s a reminder that the liberal cause is a cause thats not liberal at all. Pitiful!

    • Jesus Is Lord

      I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    • legal eagle

      Rutgers “caved”? What are you talking about?

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        It was actually the faculty who started the anti-Rice chants.

  • kelly

    Rutgers has since invited and dis-invited a former football player who was paralyzed on the field and has since become an inspiration for the school.

  • Chuck

    What will be interesting is whether today’s liberal students will be liberals in 10, 20, or 30 years. I have friends from high school and college who have gradually become more conservative. It tends to be about the money and how much the government takes in taxes.

    Bill Clinton drove a lot of my liberal friends into the GOP camp in 1994. Clinton was going to raises taxes on the wealthy, but his definition was more expansive that what they their definitions were.

    A classmate of mine in high school, who supported Jimmy Carter in 1976, couldn’t believe that I backed Howard Baker in 1980. His problem was that Baker was a Southerner. When I said that Jimmy Carter was a Southerner, he said that he learned his lesson on supporting Southerners and had backed Ronald Reagan in the primary.

    • legal eagle

      Let us know when you completer your survey 30 years from now..

  • VinBick

    It is so sad that Rutgers is laughable as our state university. New Jersey continues to be made fun of by folks around the country as a total lack of leadership is displayed by the RU president. The liberal loons on the faculty and a small percentage of no-nothing students are running the place.

  • smorkingapple

    Uhhh she is a war criminal, along with most of the Bush Admin hierarchy. These are people that defend the use of torture. I’m sure you guys would protest any speaker that defended the use of bombing innocents, not hide behind free speech.

    LOL @ the lame comparisons with Hillary and Obama. Hillary voted for the war, mostly because you clowns made anyone who didn’t share your bloodlust to kill Muslims a traitor to America. She never ordered any troops around or worked on policy. She has blood on her hands too but nowhere near Rice’s.

    As for Obama, pinpoint drone strikes with collateral damage have NOTHING, NOTHING on the mass destruction Iraq endured under that war. We can go toe to toe all day on collateral damage under the last 2 presidents. Seriously, this is a comical attempt at making Obama a war mongerer like Cheney.

    All that being said, she cut and ran like the coward she really is. Salute her for showing the yellow down her spine.

    • allen goldberg

      Permit me to disagree and invite you to take your opinions and place them where the sun does not shine. Your complete ignorance and libtard analysis is what is funny. Congratulations your receive the dumb a$$ award for May 2014 and the month is still young

      • smorkingapple

        Ohhhh, he called me a libtard!!!! I’m crushed!!

        • Stephen Randall Malone

          Take Your Meds..You are clearly mentally ill…

          • smorkingapple

            You’re a conservative, that pretty much defines being mentally ill.

    • Jarob54

      Allow me to educate you. Ms Rice is not a war criminal. In your mind perhaps she is. But you are entitled to think as you wish. Herman Goering, Joseph Gobbels, Adolf Eichman, Henrich Himmler, Adolf Hitler were war criminals. Google Nuremberg war trials. You will learn something.
      Now in war there will be collarteral damage. This government fire bombed the city of Dresden during WWII, killing thousands. Why? because it is ordered by FDR, a democrat and it was war. You sir should think before you speak. And read history.

      • Drew Page

        It was Truman (a Democrat) that ordered the atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. For the record, I’m glad he did.

        And as I recall, it was LBJ (another Democrat) that got us into the Vietnam war, with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution.

        • legal eagle

          Good to see you are on the record regarding Harry Truman….

      • Stimpy

        Wasn’t it the Brits and their Air Marshall what’s his name that ordered the fire bombing of Dresden? That did seem like a war crime to me, although I guess he was a little ticked at the blitz on London. All’s fair in love and war and poker.

        • Jarob54

          700 plus RAF bombers, 500 plus USAAF bombers killing 25000 Germans. Over a period of several days.

    • Jeff Webb

      >>As for Obama, pinpoint drone strikes with collateral damage have
      NOTHING, NOTHING on the mass destruction Iraq endured under that war.<<

      How terrible for those Iraqis, forced into a life deprived of the rape & extermination of their loved ones by Saddam & his boys.

    • Drew Page

      Go back to your bong. I’ll bet it’s not apple you’ve been “smorking”.

    • Brian Fr Langley

      You are a true blue (as bugs bunny puts it) maroon. The Obama administration has now killed (murdered) several American citizens without Habeous Corpus in direct violation of U.S law. We know for a fact these citizens were innocent, because under U.S. law all persons are PRESUMED innocent until PROVEN guilty. So lets talk about your criminals.

      • smorkingapple

        I don’t know what a maroon is, but if that was supposed to be moron, I’m just speechless.

        So you’re defending Aw Awlaki now?

        • Brian Fr Langley

          I guess you didn’t watch bugs bunny as a kid? As for whom I’m defending? How about Habeas Corpus which traces all the way back to the Magna-Carta, and is fundamental to underpinning a free society. Not only that, but how do you explain the drone killing of his entirely “innocent” 16 year old son, who was murdered by an Obama approved drone, a couple of weeks later?

          • smorkingapple

            Uhhh, I shed more tears for Oscar Grant. You probably have no idea who that is. Google him. The fact you probably don’t know who he is yet worried about the infinitesimal chance you might get droned by Obama is the real problem.

            You guys are worried about Constitutional protections meanwhile cops are taking laws into their own hands everyday. I can guarantee you one thing, more Americans have died at the hands of cops than been droned by Obama. And that’s here on the mainland.

            Where’s your outrage? Where’s your cries about the Constitution?

            Or is just more selective fake outrage because it’s Obama droning terrorists? Cause I don’t recall a damn peep from anyone on the right when Bush/Cheney were dropping bombs on whole villages, not caring about collateral damage.

  • dennis

    What is likely going on here are ageing liberal profs who spend a little too much of their curriculum bragging about the good ol’ days, the sixties, when they led a revolution in America and changed the world. I believe this because I was subjected to it when I was in college back in the eighties. It was laughable then and it is laughable now.
    The reality is I would bet every one of these hanky wringers was no where to be found during the sixties. Or, if they did show up, they didn’t lead anything and were simply trying to get a date the only way they could by sitting in the back at protests. Now they are filling young, impressionable minds with the nonsense of how cool it all was and these starry eyed nitwits are trying to re-enact to get a feel for it. I find the whole thing pathetic.

    • Jesus Is Lord

      I agree with you 100%.

    • legal eagle

      Sounds like you’re jealous?….and pathetic…

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        Sounds like dennis hit a little too close to home for you there, legal.

  • Tim

    How dare she be a conservative, black, woman.
    Isn’t that what the liberals are really choking on?

    • SkyCitizen

      You bet, it’s like finding out that the speed of light is not a constant!

    • Drew Page

      They are working on the appropriate racial slur to throw at her. “Uncle Tom” doesn’t quite work and “Aunt Tom” doesn’t quite fit the bill either. But give them time and I’m sure they will find something nasty to call her.

      Those defending Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, say she has no blood on her hands over Benghazi, but Secretary of State Condoelezza Rice has blood on her hands over Iraq. Ironic or hypocritical?

  • Larry blaspheming liberalism

    Where are the leading Democrats — like Emperor Obama, Goddess-wannabe Hillary, Bumbling Biden, Princess Pelosi, and Dingy Harry — to condemn this narrow-mindedness? NOWHERE! Thus we can conclude that intolerance is a systemic part of the Democrat party. If the Republicans had any spine (which they don’t seem to), they would make a big issue of this.

    • brent kaufman

      People who sit in their comfy chairs and type rants on internet fora, about how THEY/THOSE GUYS aren’t complaining enough (as if the internet ranters don’t complain about others enough for all of us). Why don’t all of the whiners who want THEM to “make a big issue of this” get off their big ol’ butts and raise awareness and stop whining about how THOSE GUYS are ruining the country.

  • Chuck

    Several years ago, my alma mater, the University of Michigan had one of the founders of Twitter as the commencement speaker. His background, before starting Twitter, was that of a stand-up comedian.

    In fact, before starting the speech, he took a picture of the crowd and posted it on his Twitter feed.

    Now, if given the choice between that speaker or a Democrat politician who annoyed the hell out of me, I’d take the politician. I’d rather listen to the Democrat than someone who cracked jokes during the speech and now heads a company that may be falling behind Instagram and could very well be another MySpace in 10 years.

    • legal eagle

      I just attended the Michigan commencement and the speaker was the CEO of GM….The billionaire comedian would have been preferable.

      • Chuck

        I would love to have heard what Mary Berra had to say. She works in a world that is dominated by men, since the stereotype is that men care about how cars look and perform, and women just worry about safety and how many kids the mini-van will hold.

        When I was packing up my dorm room in 1983, I listeded to Lee Iacocca give the commencement address on the school station, WUOM. The next year, when I graduated, the speaker was Walter Cronkite.

        As someone who doesn’t care for social media, or at least putting everything I do on Twitter or Facebook, I could care less what Mark Zuckerberg or anyone else has to say. But, I do want to hear what the head of any automaker, foreign or domestic has to say, as well as the most trusted man in America.

        • legal eagle

          Personally I would have preferred Yogi Berra but…..LOL

  • jazzdrums

    some of these kids protesting have no idea what they are protesting..for them it is just to be part of a group. hearken back to the Occupy movement and more than half interviewed by one particular reporter from ITN or BBC had no idea what they were there for. Most people do not watch news and they have no idea they are alive unless they have a paper cut..dont ask them where is Ukraine

    • USA Rocks

      True. Many of them were about 9 or 10 years old when Sept 11 occurred.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    so how brainwashed are they? A few years back I signed up for some University courses at a fairly large University. One class entiled “How to write an essay” was chock full of “fake” studies on which to base essays. (since the point was only about how to write an essay, the fake essays were of no real concern) BUT, each “fake” study included “fake” data on a large variety of ultra left ideals, proving the rightness of their position in every case. For example a fake study of corporal punishment demonstrated victims of parents using these horrific tactics (you know, spanking) were almost certainly likely to end up as ditch diggers and jail birds, while children not paddled, were going on to be Doctors, Lawyers and Indian Chiefs. Other “fake” studies included, the economic and societal benefits that a rich Lesbian culture, could bring about by the empowerment and liberation of women from their former patriarchal family and cultural chains. Even though everyone knew the studies were fake, any essays that argued against the positions taken by these studies was failed or low marked.

    • JMax

      And you expect people to believe this is a true and accurate anecdote?

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Actually I only shared two of these “fake” studies. There were many, many more. And don’t believe me, I could care less.

        • JMax

          It’s not the studies or the number of them. It’s that they would be judged based on the position taken rather than how well they meet the requirements of writing an essay.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Couldn’t agree with you more, BUT, due the fact I was part of an older law enforcement cohort, we were given the opportunity to have our essays marked twice. My first mark (on a particular fake study) was a C+, with the comment, you clearly do not understand what this writer is trying to express. So I deleted my last two pages (where I had argued against the fake conclusions) and received an A minus. Part of learning to write a proper essay was in fact, comprehending (what the Prof. believed) was the writer’s intent (whether fake or otherwise)

          • JMax

            Well, that IS interesting. Was it the same grader? I don’t know what understanding the writer’s position has to do with how to write a good essay.

            It sounds far-fetched to me, but I’ll take your word for it.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Yes it was the same Prof. His position, was that because we were an older group, he wanted to ensure we comprehended what we were reading. He took my argument (which I thought entirely proved my comprehension) to mean I could not grasp what the writer was actually saying. He simply took it for granted, that if I clearly understood the writers point, I would of course agree with it. The left wing thinks a lot like that. They believe they’re so wise and knowledgeable, that disagreement, must either be a lack of clarity on the communication, or simple stupidity.

          • JMax

            I get that all the time in online debates. I disagree with the premise that a specific understanding of a source article is necessary to write a good essay.

            I also disagree, though, that the left wing is any more guilty of this than the right. But that debate could go on ad nauseum. :-)

          • Brian Fr Langley

            No, your probably right about both sides being so guilty of their perceived rightness, they can’t imagine they could be disagreed with. I’m biased in this regard because most right types agree with me, while lefties (the dummies) typically don’t. As for the article and understanding the source, (you are correct), my point is, and remains, this Prof (and his school) was in fact, (dare I say it), not really trying to instill critical thinking into their students but were rather much happier with regurgitated Prof slop.

          • JMax

            I’m a lefty (compared to most everyone here) and I’m no dummy.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Says you, Considering the utter, absolute and abject failure of left wing policies, wherever they’re left to flourish, if you remain a leftie, you’re either an anarchist (Marxist) bent on destroying our society, a brainwashed ideologue, or you’re just a dummy and don’t yet realize it.

          • JMax

            The dummy is the one who wrote the above without realizing the utter absurdity and arrogance of it.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            While I admit my comments contain an element of truth, (I told you I was biased), the remarks were actually meant tongue in cheek, I guess I forgot the rule my kids told me, (add LOL if it’s in a text, as they may not convey the appropriate emotion)

      • Jeff Webb

        >>And you expect people to believe this is a true and accurate anecdote?<<

        You believed the president's OC pitch, but THIS set off your lie-dar?

    • legal eagle

      Poor baby…..another victim of the world’s greatest academic system…..

      • Brian Fr Langley

        “worlds greatest academic system” I’m still get absolutely flabbergasted by how many Americans I talk to, still don’t where Canada is, and can’t point to it, even on a map?

        • legal eagle

          Well maybe you should talk to smarter people?

          • Brian Fr Langley

            PS Since we’ve spoken so much, I’ll give you a clue, it’s the place north of the U.S., but is not Alaska. Yes, yes, I know, you didn’t know there actually was a place north of the U.S., but hey, we can’t all be perfect.

  • EddieD_Boston

    I teach students this age and I can tell you in all seriously these kids have been brainwashed and don’t even know there’s another side of the story. No clue actually.
    They also know more about being green than they do about capitalism.

    • sjangers

      Most of them also know more about environmentalism than they do about ethics, philosophy, or religion, Eddie. If I ever do follow John Daly’s path and write a book, it might even involve a future society where environmentalism has become a quasi-religion. That’s something I’ve been considering for quite a few years.

      Charles Krauthammer had an interesting- and somewhat related- observation during a panel discussion on Special Report with Bret Baier this evening, about the importance of orthodoxy over accuracy in environmental science today. It doesn’t seem to matter how much progress we make in any field, there are flaws in human nature that inevitably spoil much of even our brightest achievements.

      • Chuck

        But, what about the fact that many religions have adopted environmentalism as part of the theology? My church is always sending out e-mails on how to reduce energy consumption and become greener.

        • sjangers

          I think environmental awareness can have a role in a compassionate and socially-aware religion, whatever the religion’s actual motivation for adopting the attitude. My quarrel is with the environmental extremists who want to exercise totalitarian control over our behavior without even meeting the basic threshold of evidence to demonstrate that it might be in our best interest to surrender any control to them.

          • JMax

            Examples?

          • sjangers

            I thought I made it clear to you, I don’t feed the trolls.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Google “deep ecology” also check out “Green Party” websites. also note how “green party” is attracting more and more folks. (they now poll over 6% in Canada)

          • legal eagle

            be afraid,,,be very afraid of those environmental extremists taking over America…You are one funny guy..

          • sjangers

            Be deeply concerned about anyone who aggressively promotes a culture-transforming perspective that’s insufficiently supported by evidence.

        • Drew Page

          Unfortunately, many churches are getting into politics as a means to support theology. My own does the same with respect to immigration, foreign policy, abortion, defense policy and the economy. Most Christian churches support helping the poor, the sanctity of life and maintaining peaceful relations with other nations.

          Unlike the government, churches can only ask for your money, they can’t tax you. But when they take positions supportive of government policies expanding social welfare programs, illegal immigration and environmental issues they can put their followers into positions where funding of these programs is no longer voluntary, but mandatory.

          Just as I don’t want the government interfering with my religious preferences and practices, I don’t want my church interfering with my choice of funding social welfare programs.

      • SkyCitizen

        Charles Krauthammer, the Will Rogers of our time.

        • sjangers

          A brilliant intellect paired with a healthy dose of common sense. Whether you agree with him or not, you really have to respect the guy.

    • Chuck

      My son’s class is now studying the American Revolution. He was supposed to write a sentance using the word tryrant. He wanted to write that Barack Obama is a tyrant, but I figured that would get him in more trouble than it was worth.

      Still, he understands that low taxes and limited government is the right path.

      • smorkingapple

        He’s studying the real history of that or the sanitized, propaganda filled version?

        And if your son think Obama is a tyrant, you’re already failing him as a father. Show him a real tyrant, like a real dictator who answers to no one, not someone you don’t like because he doesn’t look like you.

        • JanelleHumbert

          Perhaps you could find a site which pleases you and validates your opinions.

          • JMax

            So you decry the apparent closed mindedness of Rutgers liberals and then tell someone who disagrees with you to take their comments elsewhere?

          • JanelleHumbert

            JMax, he or she is obviously unhappy with the opinions here. apple isn’t here to do anything other than be disagreeable and collect return comments. It’s a waste of our time and apple’s to do so. So, I do, indeed invite apple to go elsewhere.

          • sjangers

            Actually, Janelle, that’s also JMax’s routine.

          • JanelleHumbert

            Perhaps Max will go elsewhere as well.

          • sjangers

            I’ve encouraged him. He’s persistent. Perhaps it’s a genetic defect.

        • Chuck

          The history seems to be the same history that I learned in the 60s and 70s, that the Americans were the good guys, and the British were the bad guys. Probably the AMC series “Turn” is more accurate, since the Continentals were just as bloodthirsty as the Regulars, with torturing prisoners of war and summary execution of Continetal soldiers in lieu of a court martial.

          My problem with Barck Obama has nothing to do with his skin color. It’s the fact that he’s part of the Chicago Democrat Machine and that he believes in Keynsian econmics. If Condi Rice decided to give up her goal of becoming NFL Commissioner and run for president, I would contribute and volunteer in a New York minute.

          As for the tryant issue, first, I never said that Barack Obama was a tyrant. I’ve called him an idiot who can’t understand the economics taught at the University of Chicago by Milton Friedman.

          But then, my mother griped almost every day how the Democrats were causing problems, at the federal, state, and local level. So, I guess the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

          • smorkingapple

            Everyone believes in Keynesian economics except you guys when not in power to drum up fear of deficit spending.

            Yet you get in power and you spend just as much. By the way, Reagan started the deficit spending under his watch.

            Friedman’s whole paradigm is kaput. The notion that the market is best and knows all was demolished in 2008 when the government had to step in and save the private sector from itself. Or did we forget that happened?

            Folks have also moved on from shareholder based economy where only shareholders(i.e the rich) matter to a stakeholder one where everyone impacted up and downstream, shareholder or not is included in discussion.

            The economy has no point unless it works to further and better human lives.

          • Drew Page

            I refuse to believe you are as ignorant as your post would indicate. The private sector wouldn’t have needed government “saving” had the government kept its nose out of the home mortgage lending business. President Clinton and A.G. Janet Reno pressured lending institutions to make mortgage loans to those with poor or no credit worthiness who couldn’t possibly afford to make the payments, with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac happily waiting in the wings to buy up those toxic mortgages.

            Your supposition that only “the rich” are shareholders can only be based on ignorance of how many middle class working people own stock through their pension plans, 401k and 403b plans, including all of the public sector union pension plans.

          • smorkingapple

            Are you really this stupid or you just regurgitated what you read online somewhere?

            Find me one owner of Walmart through their 401k that has any say in how Walmart is run. I work for a private company with 15 shareholders. The bottom 12 have no say at all, they just collect checks. Thanks.

            By the way, you do realize that a lot of US govt “debt” is owed to US citizens right? Not china and japan? Are you willing to put the debt crisis hysteria away? Doubtful.

            You seriously believe the government forced banks to lend to poor people? Like for real? And the banks just had a gun to their face and were forced to lend to those people who they knew couldn’t pay back those loans? I’m sorry, what kind of Master of the Universe are you if you agreed to that? LOL

            So I guess the government forced them to also package those loans to be sold, lie about the quality, perform circus tricks using arcane financial engineering concepts to hide the true risk and then also force them to not have enough capital on hand to withstand the losses they all knew would come eventually.

            It was all the government’s fault, the private sector had no blame at all. If that’s the case, why did so many conservatives oppose the bailout then? Shouldn’t you guys be making sure the rightful source of blame pays the bill?

            I should name drop my credentials so you know right away that you’re out of your league on this topic but I want you to continue to embarrass yourself.

          • brent kaufman

            >>Everyone believes in Keynesian economics except you guys when not in power to drum up fear of deficit spending.

            That alone qualifies you as the idiot of the year. “Everyone sees things my way, except you troglodytes and fear mongers”.

            Some agree with it and some don’t. Get over yourself.

          • legal eagle

            And Condi Rice’s qualification to be POTUS is what? The fact that she has never held elected office or her advocacy of a war against another country because they had imaginary nuclear weapons?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>And Condi Rice’s qualification to be POTUS is what?

            Good point. If she was never a community organizer, she’s not qualified.

          • Chuck

            First, Iraq. Let’s remember that our intelligence on Iraq was poor. The CIA had been too reliant on electronic gathering of intelligence and didn’t have enough accurate human intelligence. We probably had a much better idea of what was going on in the Kremlin during the Cold War than what was going on in Baghdad, because the CIA had cultivated sources in the Kremlin.

            Considering that we had diplomatic relations and many sanctions, the U.S. wasn’t going to get anyone in Saddam’s inner circle to become a source. All of the “experts” in the U.S. were ex-pats with agendas.

            Further, let’s not forget that Saddam admitted after his capture that he was playing the U.S./U.N. and Iran off each other. He wanted the U.S./U.N. to think that he had disposed of his WMDs. He wanted Iran to think that he was fooling the U.S./U.N. Remember when he kept trying to change the inspection schedules? That was for the benefit of Iran.

            Second, Dr. Rice’s qualifications. A lot of people wanted Colin Powell to run for president several times. Other than the military, he’s never had any job that would have prepared him for being president. Some would argue that the military is not always a good career as preparation for political life.

            Ike never held any sort of elected position. I would argue that he was a far more effective president than Adlai Stevenson would have been.

            Barack Obama had been a state senator and four years into his first term as U.S. Senator, when he ran for president. I can argue that being NSC Advisor and Secretary of State, as well as provost at Stanford would be better preparation than the preparation that got Barack Obama elected.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Don’t count on him actually reading this, Chuck. He’ll just skim the first sentence then call you a racist.

          • Chuck

            Well, his screen name is Legal Eagle. So, I assume he’s a lawyer. As a lawyer myself, I’ve learned that not reading all of a contract, opinion, memo, etc. can lead to some serious problems.

            If he doesn’t read all of my post, then I wonder what else he might not be reading all the way to the end.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Well, his screen name is Legal Eagle. So, I assume he’s a lawyer.

            He tells people that. I kind of doubt it though.

            >>If he doesn’t read all of my post, then I wonder what else he might not be reading all the way to the end.

            He reads nothing until the end – rarely anything past the first paragraph. That’s been pretty well established.

          • Drew Page

            Chuck — You might want to pass this bit of wisdom on to the democrats in the House and Senate. Not reading proposed legislation (such as the Affordable Care Act) can also lead to some serious problems as many Democrats coming up for re-election are about to find out.

            Can you imagine one of your law professors telling their students “you have to sign the contract to find out what’s in it”? I’ll bet that there were more than a few lawyers among the Democrats who voted to pass this legislation without having read it. I can’t help but wonder if ‘legal eagle’ thinks Nancy Pelosi’s advice was sound.

          • sjangers

            “If he doesn’t read all of my post, then I wonder what else he might not be reading all the way to the end.”

            That part of the label on his meds that warns: “May contribute to cranial flatulence.”

          • legal eagle

            The “mushroom cloud” statements regarding nuclear weapons and centrifuges from Cheney and Rice were not CIA approved. They were a figment of Dick Cheney’s fertile imagination, fed as fact to a NY Times Reporter by Scooter Libby and repeated, as fact by Ms. Rice……
            I think highly of Condi Rice but she is not a politician nor has she ever tried to be…
            What I’m interested in is what you believe was “effective” about the Eisenhower presidency ?

        • SkyCitizen

          Right on, smokingapple! It would much better to to use a more accurate term like poseur tyrant.

        • Jeff Webb

          If you play the race card, your parents raised a tool.

        • Drew Page

          That’s it? That’s all you’ve got? Anyone who doesn’t like what Obama is doing, has done, or has not done is only opposed on the basis of racism?

          And btw, how do you know what Chuck looks like? Did you assume that because he said his family didn’t like Democrats that he was white? He may look just like Obama. Did the 95% of black voters support Obama

          only because “he didn’t look like Romney”?

          • smorkingapple

            No, just 95% of you oppose him because of that. Let’s get real here. He’s a threat to the WASP image you guys have put forward as what a President should look like. That’s been smashed now. Twice.

            Dude proposes exactly what Romney did in MA, and it’s a threat to America. Yet it was a conservative idea to begin with.

            Why else are they opposing it? Oh yeah, forgot the fact they can’t take credit for it and know it’s this centuries New Deal. That’s the real reason, not that he’s black(and white)

        • brent kaufman

          Your point started out well but then you became another propaganda spewer that you seem to hate so much, by disgracing your point by making it all about race. Anyone who doesn’t like this president obviously does so because of his race. How could it be otherwise, as Chris Mathews said, “He’s the perfect father, the perfect husband, the perfect American”. How could such perfection have imperfect ideas and policies? It is people like you that are the tyrants by disqualify any opposing opinions with the race card and thereby shut down any chance of dialogue.

      • legal eagle

        Teaching your kid that the POTUS is a tyrant……now that’s something to be proud of…..

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Good point, he should probably take your lead and teach children to accuse everyone who disagreed with him of being a racist.

        • Chuck

          A. I didn’t coach him to say it. He just said it out of the blue. I was thinking that he would have said that King George III was a tyrant.

          B. Considering that his teacher had worn a t-shirt that said “NEA for Obama”, I know better than to pick fights with the people who can put low grades on a report card.

          C. My grandfather cussed out FDR and Truman on a daily basis, and I listened to my mother’s rants about Jimmy Carter for four years. I grew up in a family that has a very low opinion of Democrats. But, if you lived in Illinois, where the Democrats are tyrants, you might be a little more jaded.

        • Drew Page

          It is if it’s true.

  • legal eagle

    What happened to Bernie…no Benghazi column? Isn’t everyone at Fox News supposed to repeat BENGHAZI day and night until Hillary becomes POTUS?

    • sjangers

      Now that’s just depressing, Eagle. We’ll probably never have a better POT U.S. than the current inhabitant of the White House, and now you have to remind us that he won’t be there forever.

    • Tim Ned

      Please hurry and contact your source to get the appropriate talking points on this subject matter fast! I realize it’s tough for you when subject matters switch gears.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        He’s really freaking out, isn’t he? He has no idea how to respond so he instinctively throws out a criticism on the Benghazi story. lol.

        Like Tim said, Legal. Consult your emails. I’m sure there’s one liberal intolerance of conservative viewpoints at Universities.

    • dennis

      You make a good point because I have no doubt that if we had a Republican president who did what the Chicago Con Man and The Hillary did while four Americans were killed (hid under the bed) then lied about it to help get the worst pres in 150 years re-elected, you would have the same “What’s the big deal?” attitude. There is no end to the hypocrisy of the left. is this something that Kool Aid does to your sense of morality?

      • smorkingapple

        We had more people killed in Chicago a few weekends ago.

        Why do you care more about 4 dying in a foreign land they VOLUNTEERED TO GO TO and KNEW THE RISKS OF than the folks who were killed here on the mainland?

        By the way, where was your outrage when the BUsh Admin lied and covered up how Pat Tillman died by the hands of his own platoon? That was WAAAAAAY more of a fiasco and scandal than these four dying but not a peep from you cats. Why?

        • sjangers

          Beyond the deaths of four brave and dedicated Americans, the problem with Benghazi wasn’t the incident, or the events leading up to and following the incident, it was the cover up.

          People in high positions made bad decisions that led to the loss of four lives. Unfortunately, that happens. Many of those same people were indecisive or indifferent during the consulate attack and that behavior may have contributed to the loss of life. Again, that happens. It’s tragic, but it’s also a dangerous world and mistakes can have deadly consequences. If that’s all that happened, there would be no scandal.

          Had President Obama, Secretary Clinton, and others in the chain of command simply come forward with the full story, I don’t think many Americans would be too upset. There may have been consequences for the responsible parties, particularly with a presidential election just two months away, but that’s as it should be.

          We elect our leaders. If they prove competent, we re-elect them. If they prove incompetent, we offer them an honorable and early retirement. But we both need and deserve to have accurate information about how well they are doing their jobs. When some of those leaders use the immense power of the government- the same government which we entrusted to them- to hide from the American people the information needed to assess how well they are doing their jobs, then there’s a serious problem.

          Those leaders are like the investment counselor, or lawyer, or business manager you hire to help manage your affairs. Mismanaging your business is unfortunate, but there’s a remedy. You fire them and hire someone else. But if they use the power you’ve given them to deliberately hide performance issues from you, making it difficult for you to assess how well they’re doing their job, then they’re committing fraud.

          They’re misrepresenting their performance for their gain and to your detriment. That’s wrong. It may also be illegal. And that’s why this Benghazi situation, which probably started out as nothing more than poor judgment and incompetence, now needs to be followed to the very end of the paper trail. We need to find out what our elected leaders have done to defraud the American people. It’s going to be messy and ugly. It’s a shame that we have to go through the process. But it’s necessary.

          For what it’s worth, the Tillman situation did attract a lot of criticism from conservative quarters. The parties engaged in the cover-up of that incident were, to the best of my knowledge, part of the Army chain of command. I don’t believe that any members of the Bush Administration participated in that process.

          • JMax

            “it was the cover up.”

            Of what?

          • sjangers

            Troll elsewhere.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Serious question: Do you have short-term memory problems?

          • JMax

            At my age, occasionally yes. Why?

            Nobody has actually explained what is being covered up. I have no memory problems in that area. But if you would like to propose a cover up that hasn’t been thoroughly debunked I’d be willing to respond.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I’m sure you’re not serious, but what the hell.

            The cover-up was the administration telling the public over and over again that the YouTube video was to blame, when they knew the video had nothing to do with it.

          • JMax

            “Over and over again”? What does that mean? Over and over in that first week when not all the information was solid? When reporters in Benghazi were contemporaneously reporting that the attacks were linked to the video? Or over and over on that Sunday four days after the attack speaking from a single set of talking points?

            I don’t know that it has yet been proved that the video had nothing to do with it. Not the blame for it, but that it could have been used as a cover to launch the attack or to recruit people to carry it out.

            But the administration was on the record within a week of the attack as calling it a terrorist attack with possible links to al-Qaeda. So I don’t know what you mean by “over and over again”.

            All of this is on the record so I don’t see how it could be a “cover up”.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Over and over again”? What does that mean?

            It means repeatedly.

            >>Over and over in that first week when not all the information was solid?

            When not all the information was solid? There was NEVER any intelligence that assigned the YouTube video to the attack. Yet, that was the explanation that the administration kept providing. Why?

            >>I don’t know that it has yet been proved that the video had nothing to do with it.

            Even the administration now admits that the video had nothing to do with it.

            >>But the administration was on the record within a week of the attack as
            calling it a terrorist attack with possible links to al-Qaeda. So I
            don’t know what you mean by “over and over again”.

            President Obama, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, Jay Carney and several others were still blaming the video at a time when they already knew it had nothing to do with the attack. A week out from the attack, Obama was still blaming the video:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDdbLq0pjE

            >>All of this is on the record so I don’t see how it could be a “cover up”.

            On the record? The White House’s involvement in the false talking point was redacted – hidden from the U.S. congress – until just last week! What still don’t know is who at the White House linked the YouTube video to the Benghazi attack. Is that information on the record? No.

          • JMax

            Your YouTube video absolutely proves my point. Thank you. “What also happened was that you have extremists and terrorists use this as an excuse to attack a variety of our embassies including the consulate in Libya.”

            He does not blame the video for the attacks. He says extremists use the video as an excuse to attack. And he says this ON TV six days after the attack. Where’s the cover up?

            “It means repeatedly.” Twice? Three times? Rice’s Sunday Ginsburg only counts as once. Within six days he’s already backed off the video blame.

            “There was NEVER any intelligence that assigned the YouTube video to the attack.”

            Assigned? What does that mean. There was intelligence and on the scene contemporaneous reporting that there were links to the video.

            “kept providing”

            You mean for six days?

            “Even the administration now admits that the video had nothing to do with it.”

            They’ve actually said that? The video never entered the minds of the attackers in any aspect whatsoever? They said that?

            “What still don’t know is who at the White House linked the YouTube video to the Benghazi attack.”

            Is that “the scandal”?. Do you think the apparently incorrect links to the video were just make up out of thin air? That the Benghazi attacks occurred in a vacuum? That someone at the White House said, “These attacks are embarassing. I saw a funny video on YouTube. Let’s blame this on that video.” In fact much of the Muslim world, at the very time of the attack in #Benghazi, was engaged in protests and storming US Embassies in protest of the video. Why wouldn’t the first reaction to the #Benghazi attack be that it was yet another violent protest against the movie?

            So the “scandal” is who came up with linking the attack to the video when the entire Muslim world was violently protesting the video? What’s your guess? Michelle Obama? The President? Surely not Joe Biden. Rachel Maddow? Maybe it was SOS Clinton but now she can’t remember because of her fake concussion.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Your YouTube video absolutely proves my point. Thank you. “What also
            happened was that you have extremists and terrorists use this as an
            excuse to attack a variety of our embassies including the consulate in
            Libya.”

            Proves your point? It does no such thing! Letterman asked the president specifically about Benghazi, and the president immediately starts his answer off by bringing up the YouTube video. Why?

            At this point, the president had already known for nearly a week that the video had absolutely nothing to do with the attack. He knew that it was a planned, coordinated terrorist attack, yet he went on to tell Letterman that the video was somehow a precursor to what happened. It wasn’t. Our intelligence agencies were never, at any point, telling us that the video had any influence whatsoever on what happened.

            The terrorists didn’t use the video as an “excuse” and it’s not what motivated them to attack the consulate. All you see in that Letterman appearance is the beginning of a calculated message-transition from the made-up YouTube video story to the facts CNN and Fox News were beginning to uncover and report at the time.

            It was a like a parent catching their child in a lie, and the child awkwardly twisting the lie into a strung-out story that eventually leads back to the truth. It was pathetic.

            >>”It means repeatedly.” Twice? Three times? Rice’s Sunday Ginsburg only counts as once.

            Rice said it five times, Obama said it multiple times, Clinton said it both publicly and to the families of the murdered men, Carney said it multiple times, and other administration officials repeated it. If you’re going to whine about my categorization that the fake story was told repeatedly, I have to say that your argument is ridiculous.

            >>Within six days he’s already backed off the video blame.

            The Letterman video proves that statement wrong, but let’s say, just for the sake of argument, that you’re right…

            For 6 days, the administration repeatedly blamed the attack on a YouTube video when they knew within just a few hours that it was completely unrelated to what happened. Our intelligence agencies were not telling the White House that the video was in anyway related. Yet, that was the story that the White House was telling the world.

            Now, who at the White House came up with that narrative? The fact that we don’t have that answer is why we need to keep digging.

            >>Assigned? What does that mean. There was intelligence and on the scene contemporaneous reporting that there were links to the video.

            What intelligence supported the idea that the video had anything to do with the attack in Libya? What the intelligence agencies WERE telling the administration within hours of the attack was that it was coordinated and pulled off by terrorists.

            >>They’ve actually said that?

            Yes. Carney has repeated it over and over again.

            >>Is that “the scandal”?.

            It’s A scandal. No doubt about it.

            >>Do you think the apparently incorrect links to the video were just make up out of thin air?

            No. I believe they saw what was going on in Egypt and decided that the YouTube video would make an excellent scapegoat for what happened in Libya. That way, it wouldn’t be linked to Obama’s foreign policy. As we know now, that was precisely what the White House was concerned with when they sent out Susan Rice with the false information.

            >>Why wouldn’t the first reaction to the #Benghazi attack be that it was yet another violent protest against the movie?

            Because the intelligence on the ground told them otherwise – within hours! I don’t care what the White House’s instinctive, knee-jerk reaction to first hearing the news of the attack was. I care that the entire time they were telling the public that the YouTube video was to blame, they knew that wasn’t true.

            >>So the “scandal” is who came up with linking the attack to the video when the entire Muslim world was violently protesting the video?

            No. The “scandal” is who came up with linking the attack to the video AFTER the White House had already been told days earlier who was really responsible for it: Terrorists, as part of a planned, coordinated attack.

            >>What’s your guess? Michelle Obama? The President? Surely not Joe Biden. Rachel Maddow? Maybe it was SOS Clinton but now she can’t remember because of her fake concussion.

            We don’t know who at the White House came up with it. That’s the problem. But we do know that it did originate from the White House – despite the administration’s repeated denials of that. Hopefully, Trey Gowdy will help find that answer, even as left-wing useful-idiots scream about wide-eyed, half-cocked conspiracy theories.

          • JMax

            “the president immediately starts his answer off by bringing up the YouTube video. Why?”

            Because the video and world-wide reaction to it was relevant. And by that time, links to the video had not been ruled out by the Intelligence Committee.

            “At this point, the president had already known for nearly a week that the video had absolutely nothing to do with the attack.”

            This is totally untrue. The IC (Intelligence Community) did not rule out the existence of protests prior to the attack until September 24th, 12 days after the event and 6 days after the Letterman show.

            From the Senate Intelligence Report on #Benghazi:

            “CIA’s January 4,2013, Analytic Line Review found that “[a]pproximately a dozen reports that included press accounts, public statements by AAS members, HUMINT reporting, DOD reporting, and signals intelligence all stated or strongly suggested that a protest occurred outside of the Mission facility just prior to the attacks.”

            http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf

            Start on page 33.

            “Our intelligence agencies were never, at any point, telling us that the video had any influence whatsoever on what happened.”

            False. See above.

            ” they knew within just a few hours that it was completely unrelated to what happened. Our intelligence agencies were not telling the White House that the video was in anyway related.”

            False. See above.

            “Now, who at the White House came up with that narrative?”

            The narrative came from the Intelligence Community. Not everyone in the IC agreed, but that is often the case.

            “What intelligence supported the idea that the video had anything to do with the attack in Libya?”

            See Senate Intelligence Report linked above.

            “Because the intelligence on the ground told them otherwise – within hours!”

            False. See Senate Intelligence Report linked above. Reports were contradictory and inconclusive.

            “I care that the entire time they were telling the public that the YouTube video was to blame, they knew that wasn’t true.”

            False. See Senate Intelligence Report.

            “The “scandal” is who came up with linking the attack to the video”

            Contemporaneous reports in #Benghazi.

            “But we do know that it did originate from the White House”

            False. See Senate Intelligence Report linked above.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Because the video and world-wide reaction to it was relevant.

            No it wasn’t. The president was asked specifically about Libya, and he went straight for the YouTube video which he knew had nothing to do with it.

            >>And by
            that time, links to the video had not been ruled out by the Intelligence
            Committee.

            Ruled out? It was never ruled IN. The intelligence agencies were reporting from the very beginning that it was a terrorist attack. They never attributed the video to anything that was going on in Libya.

            >>This is totally untrue. The IC (Intelligence Community) did not rule out the existence of protests

            They also didn’t rule out that circus clowns, street-sweepers, or Barbara Streisand were involved. They had the same relevance in Libya as the YouTube video did.

            You’re logic is completely nonsensical. You’re saying that because there were protests in other countries (was anyone even hurt in the other protests?) because of a video, it was reasonable and appropriate for the administration to ignore what the intelligence agencies were telling them about Libya, and to go ahead and tell the American public that an attack they knew was pulled off by terrorists was instead caused by the video.

            JMax, you’re “fog of war” argument would only make sense if you were arguing it during the first few hours of the attack in Libya, when all Washington could do was speculate. They found out the truth not long after, and continued placing the blame on the video for several days.

            >>From the Senate Intelligence Report on #Benghazi:

            How does what you cited in any way support your claim? The video isn’t mentioned and the false reports came from the “immediate aftermath,” which means only the first couple of hours. What really happened was known less 12 hours later. Yet, the admin kept pointing the the video for several days. How do you explain that?

            You keep saying to look at the intelligence report when it answers none of the questions I posed to you. Did you actually read the report yourself?

          • Jeff Webb

            John, you’re using you’res where yourses are usually used.

            Yours,
            Jeff Webb
            Det. Sgt.
            Grammar Police Squad

          • JMax

            “Did you actually read the report yourself?”

            I was going to ask you the same thing.

            “he knew had nothing to do with it.”

            He did not know that.

            In some cases, these intelligence reports-which were disseminated widely in the Intelligence Community–contained references to press reports on protests

            Senate Intelligence Report page 33 paragraph 1.

            it appears this reporting from those present during the attacks did not make its way into assessments at CIA Headquarters, as the Deputy Director of the Middle East and North Africa Analysis Office at CIA wrote an internal email, dated September 16, 2012, that rnentioned “protestors that preceded the violence.”

            IBID page 33 paragraph 3.

            “an attack they knew was pulled off by terrorists was instead caused by the video.”

            An attack by terrorists and a connection to protests over a video are not mutually exclusive, nor did the administration ever claim that they were.

            “They found out the truth not long after”

            “What really happened was known less 12 hours later.”

            Then why were CIA and military still referring to protests up to September 20th and even later?

            Senate Intelligence Report pages 33 and 34.

            “continued placing the blame on the video for several days.”

            Listen to the Rice videos. She actually places the blame on protests in Cairo and not on the video.

            “The video isn’t mentioned”

            Protests are mentioned many times. What do you think the protests were about. Dunkin’ Donuts was out of coffee?

          • Jeff Webb

            >>A week out from the attack, Obama was still blaming the video<<

            And two weeks after the attack, he appeared on The View and still couldn't bring himself to definitively say it was a planned terrorist attack. Paraphrased: "it appears to have been more than a mob action."

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Yep

          • legal eagle

            “They’re misrepresenting their performance for their gain and to your detriment. That’s wrong. It may also be illegal”
            What may be “illegal”

          • sjangers

            That’s why this investigation that your side is trying to avoid is actually so necessary. We need to find out if anything illegal took place. We have a pretty good sense that there was incompetence, perhaps indifference, and clearly some level of cover-up. The current administration committed some level of fraud on the American people. We need to find out if it was fraud in the criminal sense, fraud in the political sense, or just some garden variety dishonesty to avoid blame.

            If the House investigation is allowed to proceed without impediment we may finally gain some certainty about the events that led up to Benghazi, the night itself, and the events that followed. Seems like a good idea to me. If you’re guys didn’t do anything wrong we’ll find that out. Then you’ll have something to crow about during the next election.

        • USA Rocks

          I bet the people killed in chicago were in the community that Obama left unorganized.

      • JMax

        Did not Romney before the dust and smoke of the attack had settled issue statements spinning the event against the administration during the heat of the political campaign?

    • SkyCitizen

      I guess if your child was a victim at Benghazi your opinion would not change?

      • legal eagle

        If my child was a victim I would mourn in private like most rational people and not let their memory be used by slimebag politicians or Fox News…

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Well there you have it folks… The parents of the men murdered in Benghazi just aren’t as mature and respectable as legal eagle, because they’ve made it known that they don’t appreciate being lied to their faces about how their sons died.

          If only they could learn from legal eagle how to just bend over and take it, like this mature, respectable left-winger claims he would.

          You’re an inspiration to us all, l.e.

    • Drew Page

      It occurs to me that had our government been willing to tell the truth right up front about Fast & Furious, the IRS targeting scandal or the massacre at Benghazi we wouldn’t be talking about these things today.

      The critics of investigations into Benghazi say “These investigations have been going on for two years now and nothing has been found.” “This is all a waste of taxpayers’ money.” I would submit that the reasons the investigations have been going on for so long is that the administration has stonewalled, dragged its feet in supplying requested documents which, when finally released, are so heavily redacted as to be meaningless. As you well know, when information is requested hundreds of thousands of unrelated documents can be released, making it extremely time consuming to go through all this material and only then finding that the material is unrelated to the documents requested. It then gives those supplying the irrelevant documents the excuse “We submitted hundreds of thousands of documents to investigators, who have found nothing.” This is nothing more than a delaying tactic employed in the hope that investigators will just go away and that public will become bored with the process.

      President Obama went on national TV and promised that those responsible for Benghazi would be brought to justice. That was almost two years ago. Who among the perpetrators has been arrested? Apparently the MSM had no problem finding some of these perpetrators, but the administration couldn’t.

      More than what caused the attack on our consulate in Benghazi, I want to know who was the person (not the agency, office or department) but who was the person directly responsible for refusing the additional security requested by Ambassador Stevens? And who was the person at the top who issued the order to stand down to the troops in Tripoli who were about to board the military transport to come to the aid of those under attack? I am not interested who carried the message to stand down, but who initiated the order. This president likes to TALK about holding people accountable. Here is a chance to enforce that “accountability” the president likes to TALK about. Let’s have the names of those individuals.

  • Ron F

    Some “left-wing members of the faculty” and “about 100 students” on a campus with approximately 31,000 undergraduates is not evidence of liberal intolerance, it is evidence of the intolerance of those specific people. The people protesting were a small minority of the campus. If we assume 50% of the 31,000 undergraduates are liberal, which I would guess is underestimating the percentage of liberals, less than 1% of the liberal undergraduates showed their intolerance by protesting. I am not sure it is fair to generalize based on such a small sample. I am conservative. It does not mean that my views or ideas are expressed by a small group of conservatives.

    • Chuck

      The problem is that the small group of liberal students are far more determined to drive conservative speakers from campuses than conservative students are willing to ensure that conservative speakers are welcome on campuses.

      Students at Rutgers need to remember that Arthur Burns used to teach at Rutgars, and Milton Friedman received his Bachelor’s in math and economics from Rutgars.

  • legal eagle

    So Condi Rice is now a victim? The right of students to protest is now abridged? Maybe Condi should have offered to donate her $35,000 fee to the Rutgers Scholarship Fund and seen the reaction….
    Either Condi has become a little thin skinned about her role in the WMD hoax or she hates new Jersey….
    Maybe Bernie can offer to speak for $20,000?

    • Tim Ned

      Once again you have miss-read, if you did read it, this article. The victim here is not Ms Rice. It’s Rutgers. Rice was gracious in her acceptance and her withdrawal. But I see your perverted angle; conservatives should donate their fees. Wow!

      By the way, Bernie would be an excellent choice.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        He didn’t read it, Tim. He never reads the columns on this website. We’re just a paste target for the talking points he copies from his emails.

        • legal eagle

          Try reading a book once in a while It might improve your limited intelligence level..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I write books, legal. And not a single sentence in them was copied and pasted from another source, unlike the DNC trash you routinely leave here.

            BTW, I’d recommend my current release to you, but since it’s not a children’s book, I’m afraid it’ll be way over your head.

          • rdgeorge

            Reading a book doesn’t improve your intelligence.
            It might educate you on some subject or other but not improve your intelligence.

          • Ted Crawford

            He dosen’t read books either, unless you consider the Dick and Jane books!

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      >>So Condi Rice is now a victim?

      Try actually reading the column instead of guessing what’s in it, legal.

      • Ted Crawford

        It wouldn’t help him to read it!

    • Cnychu

      Legal eagle, get out of mommy and daddy’s basement, read, oh I don’t know, something other than the W. Post. Watch something other than MSNBC or Lawrence O’donnell. Thin skinned? Like the idiot you voted for on the white house? Oh sorry! I posted the word “white”. Is that racist? Are you going to cry? Read Maureen Dowd’s piece on the whining thin skinned president. You’ll need tissues I’m sure. Then please post more of your genius analyses.

    • Ryan Nichols

      So they use their right to to assemble and speak out, to stop someone else from speaking. How liberal of them. They’re so tolerant.

    • Brad Gillespie

      Condi isn’t the victim here: it apparently is your eyesight, which can’t recognize how lopsided the professoriate is at universities — it is they who pretty much shitcanned this appearance. The halfwitted mush for brain protestors, who grasp only half the freedom speech side, are the other victims, as they want only speech from speakers they can agree with. With the moniker legal eagle, perhaps you would be willing to accept a modest stipend for your incredibly perceptive views.

      • legal eagle

        Condi Rice cancelled her speech because faculty members and students protested…..Either she is a bit thin skinned, which I doubt, or New Jersey was not on her list of desirable destinations?
        People have the right to protest….Condi had the opportunity to speak….Wasn’t she the one who cancelled?

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          If you would have bothered to read her explanation (or even Bernie’s column for that matter; I realize that reading is difficult for you) you would have learned that she didn’t want the graduates to have their graduation day ruined by hecklers who promised to shout over her if she gave the speech.

          Seriously, scroll up and read the column, legal. I don’t think you made it further than the headline.

  • Stop Obamunism Now

    Liberal profess to be “The Most Open Minded People On Earth”.
    It’s breathtaking how Stalinist they really are….

    • smorkingapple

      We are open minded but if you’re a racist or a torturer your opinion is trash and it’s a waste of time hearing it.

      Kind of like you guys with foreigners, people of color, the poor, etc.

      • Ted Crawford

        I’m sure you simply misunderstood, she said “open minded” , not “empty headed”!

  • jackietreehorn3

    It never ceases to amaze me how hypocritical college administrators and campuses are in general. College is supposed to be a crucial time in ones development where respect of others beliefs and an open mind are paramount. Unfortunately all college has become is a breeding ground for extreme left academics(which a vast majority of college professors are) to feed kids their own agenda. Instead of letting these kids hear both sides of an issue they are force fed one side.I know, I was one of these kids. As one gets older beliefs tend to shift. The problem is a majority of America including college graduates are low information voters. Unless they truly have a hunger for what is happening, and read between the lines to form their own opinions, they’ll just continue to hold on to the core beliefs they were force fed in college. EVERYONE has an agenda. It’s up to the individual to sift thru all the b.s. to find out what they believe in. Unfortunately impressionable minds tend to just believe what they hear. Especially from people in positions of authority. To me College is one of the left’s greatest weapons

    • sjangers

      The Left largely controls several very influential institutions in our society. In addition to academia, they also control much of the major mainstream media and the entertainment industry.

      Influence in these sectors of our society has become generational. And the radical academic influence extends well beyond colleges and universities, into secondary and elementary education.

      I recall talking to a couple of young guys who worked for me fifteen or twenty years ago, who had both been influenced by an environmental affairs teacher at their high school. Both were so concerned about the impact of the human footprint on Earth that they expressed willingness to commit mass exterminations of people to reduce the danger.

      One kid thought that eliminating all but a thousand people in order to “start over” would be a good idea. I’m not sure if he got that figure from his teacher, but if he did that guy didn’t just have a serious moral and ethical handicap to go with his extreme agenda, he didn’t even understand the need for sufficient genetic diversity to ensure that the species would be likely to survive his purification of the planet. And these nuts are teaching our children.

      • jackietreehorn3

        It really is scary. I can recall vividly lectures and discussions I had all those years ago, and just nodding in agreement with professors I held in high esteem. Never once questioning their stance on important issues. I talked to my friends college kids recently. Sadly things haven’t changed. Judging by today’s climate I’d say it’s gotten worse. I do think kids are more aware now of the issues than my generation was,but I think you and I would both agree a majority of the time they’re only hearing one side of the story. Scary stuff.

        • sjangers

          Now that the radical Sixties crowd and their disciples have taken control of many of our information-related institutions, it may be time to remind our kids of the need to question authority.

          • jackietreehorn3

            totally agree.

          • legal eagle

            Still reliving the 1960’s? LOL

          • sjangers

            There were a lot of fun, weren’t they?

          • legal eagle

            They were a lot of fun unless you were getting your brains blown out in Vietnam…

          • sjangers

            Fortunately I wasn’t, Eagle,. Is that what happened to you?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Nope. Legal admitted to being a proud draft dodger a while back.

          • legal eagle

            I was protesting….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            More than protesting, from what you proudly told us before.

          • sjangers

            So some things never change.

          • Ted Crawford

            Naw! His contribution to that issue was the burning of his Bra!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Uh… You’re the one he said he wishes we were back in the 60’s, legal.

      • legal eagle

        You seem to be talking to some strange “young guys”….Have any more anecdotes about mass exterminations?

        • sjangers

          They were fairly normal kids, Eagle. They were just subjected to a pretty distorted perspective from a liberal educator at an age when they weren’t mature enough to distinguish the inherent flaws in the leftist agenda.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Nice. Indoctrinated by the left, and then mocked by the left.

          • sjangers

            I won’t tell them about the mockery if you don’t, John. It’s bad enough that they got used without the additional disrespect, but they don’t need to hear about it.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Agreed.

          • Ted Crawford

            We can hope that as they matured, they outgrew the Progressive idiocy, many do. I’m greatful that I was one of them!

          • sjangers

            They were both pretty good kids, so I assume they did. I’m afraid I didn’t really keep in touch.

      • Bob Olden

        >The Left largely controls several very influential institutions in our society. In addition to academia, they also control much of the major mainstream media and the entertainment industry.<

        Having seized control of major universities and colleges, the liberal "thought control" effort extends to high school, junior high, and elementary public schools. One wonders how anyone learns to challenge the status quo of political correctness.

        When I was a teen, I wanted to think for myself. I think it is normal for adolescents to push away from the "older generation". Nobody likes to be brainwashed, or told what to believe, or be told to shut up when asking defiant questions.
        I'm sure there are young people out there today who feel this way. I hope they lead a grand rebellion against the liberal groupthink that is dominant in so many of our cultural institutions.

        It would be great if college age youth could thumb their noses at big expensive institutions of learning

        • sjangers

          Every now and again I run across a story about a young person who does challenge a professor, teacher or administrator. I think there’s hope for the future, Bob, although it may be decades before we see the balance start to swing decisively back.

          One of the problems, I think, is that people with conservative attitudes aren’t naturally predisposed to careers in fields like academia. Most young conservatives are eager to leave the safe confines of university and go out to take on all the challenges they can find in the real world. Young people should be encouraged to view the education of the generations following them as a vital challenge, every bit as valuable as rising to the top in fields like business and politics.

      • Bob Olden

        To finish that thought, there are a growing number of options to do an end run around the liberal dominated schools, but it is better to stage a protest by going into the lion’s den and outing the worst offenders for the slanted, manipulative, spineless goons that they are. I applaud any college student with the guts to blow the whistle on faculty or staff that repress free expression of beliefs and ideas, or who brazenly support the mantra of political correctness and refuse to point out the flaws and failures of liberalism.

        • sjangers

          I agree that there’s real value in directly challenging liberal academics when they’re in the wrong. When you come right down to it, liberalism and conservatism are in a marketing war for the hearts and minds of anyone who participates in our society. It’s important to be able to demonstrate what conservative values and policies can offer, but equally important to make sure people understand that the other side isn’t everything they claim to be. That marketing of ideas can take place anywhere, including educational institutions.

  • Paul Borden

    I wonder how many of these “protesters” were seniors who were getting degrees.

  • Josh

    I wonder how much of a victory a whiner feels for whining to another whiner and having the bigger whiner cave in due to fear. There’s plenty of stuff I don’t want and people I don’t want to see. Things get on my nerves. Sometimes I feel like kicking and screaming and demanding things my way.

    Usually, I just have a Bud Light or few, blow something up on a video game, and put my head down and go to work. (Order depends on how whiny I feel that particular day.)

    But, damn, if only I realized from a young age that whining could actually make grown-azz adults do what you want, I would have been whining all my life! Unfortunately, every time I tried it in my early years, I earned something bigger to whine about. The welts and sore backside that I couldn’t sit on for days at a go were permanent reminders that whining didn’t work in my neck of the woods.

    I suppose we all should have seen this coming, and worse. When the idea of “tolerance” is supposed to wash over your entire life, including with children and how you treat them by way of being soft instead of stern and giving them everything the want as positive reinforcement for self-esteem, the spoilt whiners who emerge have already won. They’ve already stampeded their way over adults since childhood. They’ve never had to grow up and actually do anything. So when there’s something they don’t like, they whine and stomp their feet.

    And that’s okay. They are what they were raised to be. But whatever the hell is wrong with the people caving in and giving whiners their way is a problem that goes beyond politics. It’s not just a “liberal” thing. We have people in positions in power who are scared senseless of their own shadows. “Better give the whiners what they want, or…” Or what? They might stage a sit-in with 12 people? MSNBC might give you 2 minutes of bad press? For Pete’s sake, people, deal with it.

    America’s biggest industry is going to be tissue production if all these people keep whining. Grow the pluck up.

  • Kathie Ampela

    Great column, Bernie, thank you! I wonder how many outside the Fox News universe are aware this kind of thing happens all too often on college campuses. I mean I kind of doubt the Obama fan club aka the mainstream media reports when a conservative speaker is bullied off a college campus anywhere in this country. Freedom of speech only applies to THEIR side. People are breaking their backs saving for their kids to go to college, for what? To be exposed to this kind of indoctrination and bullying?

  • commonwealther

    Columbia invites Anti Gay, Anti Semite and Terrorist Mahmoud Ahmadinjad with open arms as a guest speaker, no professors objected to this, and even worse the same Rutgers paid drunken skank Snooki $32,000 to come speak about getting drunk on the beach, and they have a problem with one of the classiest most intelligent black woman of our time. I’d say Condi made the right choice and in doing so humiliated the same people that opposed her appearance. They look quite foolish. Once again the left is only tolerant of free speech when it is their ideas on is speaking about.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    And you ain’t seen nothing yet! In Canada an environmental celebrity, (David Suzuki, whom the mainstream media glorifies as brilliant and saintly) has actually called for the jailing, of any public officials, who in any way, “deny” “climate change”. Not only, was he not ridiculed by the “mainstream” (Canadian) media, many lefties, posited his solution, may be the only way for them to save (they really mean to rule) the planet.

    • sjangers

      Is this David Suzuki related in any way to Joe Isuzu?

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Not that I know of? Canada’s CBC TV network (a bastion of socialist thought and action paid for in large part by tax dollars) has made him an environmental star. His original claim to fame was he was in his youth a Geneticist who got a small spot on CBC and eventually grew into an environmentalist industry.

        • sjangers

          Sorry about that, Brian. You’d probably have to be an American pop culture junkie to catch the reference. Joe Isuzu was a character played by David Leisure for a series of Isuzu television commercials about twenty-five years ago. He’s probably most memorable as a pathological liar. And I thought the car reference in his last name and Suzuki’s last name was an interesting connection as well, perhaps, as their relative contributions to society.

        • 4deuce

          Isn’t that where today’s snake oil comes from?

  • Tim Ned

    Good for you Bernie writing about this. Liberals never object when the dog bites those they disagree with. I have personally discontinued my donations to my alma mater. It had nothing to do with the left wing speakers they invited. I quit when I discovered that the speakers political beliefs were a factor in the selection.

    • legal eagle

      How will the school remain open without your contributions?…..LOL

      • tim ned

        Yes, they might have to put off replacing a couple of windows.

  • sjangers

    This incident only reinforces the awareness that our friends on the left, those who constantly preach tolerance for minorities when they and their friends are in the minority, tend to be among the most intolerant members of our society when it comes to dealing with those who disagree with them.

    Since institutions of higher learning exist- at least in theory- as places for the open exchange of ideas, perhaps it’s time to acknowledge that a very few ideas are antithetical to that purpose and can have no place in that environment; unwillingness to listen respectfully to different points of view being perhaps chief among them. It might be time for a national movement to make it an academic felony to engage in organized activities designed to suppress different points of view on campuses of colleges and universities. Punishments might include revocation of tenure and dismissal for faculty members, and immediate dismissal from the community- without returning any remaining tuition money to mommy and daddy- for undergrads who violate this policy.

    • Benmaxcon

      Correction: we have no friends on the left.

      • sjangers

        So much for comity.

    • legal eagle

      So a few students a Rutgers are now, according to you, a major source of intolerance in America.
      And Condi Rice, who has given numerous commencement addresses over the years, is now so concerned about a student protest that she decides to bow out and become a victim?

      • sjangers

        Come on, Eagle. You can’t be that ill-informed. This sort of stuff is happening regularly on campuses all over the country.

        • tim ned

          “You can’t be that ill-informed.”

          Oh yes he is!

          • sjangers

            That makes him a real over-achiever.

          • Ryan Nichols

            Eagle is not just ill-informed, but misinformed.

        • legal eagle

          and you would know that how? Tell me where al “this stuff” is happening…..A bit of an exaggeration, don’t you think?

          • sjangers

            I saw it many times when I was in college. And it seems like at least a few times each year I read or hear reports of some conservative, or someone who isn’t popular with the left, being subject to intense attempts to silence their point of view. It doesn’t take much intelligence to connect the dots and realize that this is happening regularly. It just doesn’t all get reported, much like those incidents I witnessed while I was in school.

          • legal eagle

            So it’s opinion…couched as fact……Fox News would be proud…

          • sjangers

            What isn’t, Eagle? Even much of what passes for science today manages to be opinion couched as fact. When you offer legal advice to a client it’s called an opinion, no matter your level of expertise.

            Trying to suggest that most of what you post here is anything more than informed opinion would be arrogant and misleading. And the same is true for the majority of my posts. There are elements that are indisputably factual, but much is interpretation and informed opinion. At least what I post is my honest and informed opinion, however accurate or inaccurate. I’m no one’s paid mouthpiece.

      • Ryan Nichols

        Oh the hypocrisy!

    • legal eagle

      There are 7000 colleges in the US…That’s a lot of witch hunting…

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        Witch hunting is what the universities do to conservatives… not the other way around.

        • legal eagle

          Poor baby….everyone’s picking on you….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Are you under the impression I’m a college student? Good lord… Do you read ANYTHING other than those emails?

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Poor baby….everyone’s picking on you….<<

            Poor you…tried race-carding, tried cliches, currently equating criticism with whining, and your enemies STILL won't shut up!

      • sjangers

        Who’s talking witch hunting? I’m just suggesting that incidents involving organized attempts to suppress the free exchange of ideas at colleges and universities ought to have consequences for those behind the efforts. No incidents, no consequences. Incident, consequence. It’s kind of like the law. When no law is broken there is no need for action. How someone with your education and experience took a concept as simple as that and confused it with witch hunting is difficult to comprehend.

        • legal eagle

          Illegal activities do have consequences…..Exercising First Amendment rights should not……Witch hunting infers attacking those who have not broken a law….

          • sjangers

            So you’re opposed to giving kids time out when they’re disruptive? Or is that a witch hunt that meets with your approval?

        • POS

          After having read this whole thing from the (Bernard Goldberg) article to the last reply and must confess that it has shown me how lucky I was for having quit school in the first two weeks of the 7th grade. I am 81 yrs young and have spent most of that time working with people with degrees. When I was 20 I took a job that required me joining the Operating Engineers and when took the test of 20 questions and answered all correct the fellow who had given me the test got up and said in the length of the 15 years that he had given the test it was the time that all of the questions had been Answered Correctly. Of course the room was full of people who had taken the test. After taking 5 test with 125 questions each I was hired by RCA to work at the Cape Canaveral and while there I was ask about my math skills to which I replied ” I always get 2 when I add 1 and 1″ I was then told that the class that was starting that they would like for me to take involved algebra and trigonometry. I was #2 in top grades in the class. Have to say that I am glad I (passed) on the collage and taught my self. I have had a lot of jobs for a lot of companies doing a lot of different things that were interesting, a good part of which help put a man on the moon. I have to say that if your curiosity is great the better one can learn and with all the information on line there is no reason for not finding an answer for anything.

          • sjangers

            I think you learn best what you teach yourself. Sometimes it helps to have a teacher guide you. But internalization of information and belief always seems to work best when you ‘discover’ it on your own, else you’re just parroting someone else’s information or beliefs without really understanding what it means.