The Other B-Word

Strong WomenThe Wall Street Journal recently ran a piece by two very successful women who are not happy with the B-word.  No, not that B-word.  They don’t like it when girls and women are called “bossy.”

The women are Sheryl Sandberg, the chief operating office at Facebook, and Anna Maria Chavez, the CEO of Girl Scouts of the USA.  Here’s why they find the word “bossy” so harmful:

“Behind the negative connotations lie deep-rooted stereotypes about gender. Boys are expected to be assertive, confident and opinionated, while girls should be kind, nurturing and compassionate. When a little boy takes charge in class or on the playground, nobody is surprised or offended. We expect him to lead. But when a little girl does the same, she is often criticized and disliked.

“How are we supposed to level the playing field for girls and women if we discourage the very traits that get them there?”

Let’s make a deal, girls:  I’ll stop using the word “bossy” if you stop being so damn “whiny.”

First, leveling the playing field for girls and women?  Bulletin:  It’s not the ‘50s anymore — or the 60s or even the 70s.  Girls are doing quite well in America, thank you.  This is from a piece by Lisa Wolfe in the Daily Beast:  “Girls are outperforming boys in all subjects except math and science, and even there, they’re closing the gap. There has been a steady 25-year decline in boys’ participation in extracurricular activities as girls take over clubs, newspapers, and yearbooks. For every 100 girls with learning disabilities there are 276 boys. For every 100 women graduating college, there are 77 men.”

As for the supposed pay gap we hear so much about, where men supposedly make more than women for doing the same job:  Think about it.  If that were true why would an employer hire men at all?  Why not just hire women for less pay, cutting your labor costs, and enabling you to make more money?  Men make more money when they work on oil rigs and in coal mines and other places where they might get killed – and when they work the overnight shift while most women are comfortably asleep at home.

So stop crying about how bad you have it, ladies.  (I said ladies because feminists hate that word.)

And you know what they call guys who are bossy?  It’s not always “assertive.”  Sometimes it’s the p-word that ends with “rick” or the a-hole word.

You don’t hear us writing boo-boo pieces in the Wall Street Journal about that.

Here’s more from these two victims of our oppressive male-dominated culture that likes nothing more than keeping women in their place: “Despite earning the majority of college degrees, women make up just 19% of the U.S. Congress, 5% of Fortune 500 CEOs and 10% of heads of state. Most leadership positions are held by men, so society continues to expect leadership to look and act male and to react negatively when women lead.”

Some of that may be because of how we see women.  But we see men in a certain way too.  When young men turn 18, to use just one example, they have to sign up with Selective Service. Young women don’t have to sign up.  Yes, they could go fight — but only if they choose to.  Or they could go to college and study French literature.

I will gladly admit that it must be hard to dance backwards in high heels, but no one is forcing any woman to dance or wear high heels. (Though there should be a law that requires women to wear high heels on Friday and Saturday nights — at home or outside the house.)  But there is a law forcing young men to tell the federal government where they are in case World War III breaks out and the Army needs them to fight.

I don’t hear Sandberg or Chavez complaining about that kind of inequality

If there’s a noise in the house in the middle of the night, a woman might turn to her husband and say, “What was that?  Check it out.”  Can you imagine a guy turning to his wife and saying, “I think someone may be in the house.  Go downstairs and find out what’s going on, it may be a burglar.”  I don’t hear Sandberg and Chavez complaining about that, either.

And if Hillary decides she wants to be president, she probably will be.  There are plenty of Americans out there who will vote for her – not because she’s ever done anything especially noteworthy … but rather, because she’s a woman.

Sandberg and Chavez have started a “ban bossy” public service campaign.  Fine, I promise never to use that word if they promise to stop kvetching. (Look it up.)

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  • buckrodgers

    Why do feminist think being a women in America puts you at a disadvantage against a man, their are some things women excel at and their are some things men excel at, of course you can always find the exception to the rule, but is it realistic to use that assumption on every man and women in the country, but thats what liberals are constantly truing to do and their using liberal gimmicks to achieve the results their looking for, or shouting down anybody who tries to criticize anybody that disagrees with them, while women become more dependent on government in order to protect them from themselves, look at abortion, females call it a women’s right to choose, while men call it sex without consignees, both genders approve of the procedure but for different reasons, it’s a proven scientific fact that men don’t feel the pain and physiological damages a women goes through when she decides to have a abortion, also men don’t have to shove chemicals into their body to prevent a pregnancy, because they don’t have to worry about getting pregnant, women also find themselves dependent on men in the work place because they are not cabale to perform the task they were hired to do, gender norming and other liberal gimmicks will get your foot into the door, but what happens when your asked to do the job, let’s take two employees one is a man and the other is a women and both are unable to perform a certain task, so the man ask his coworker for help and he says no problem, buy me a beer after work and we will call it even, now the female ask the same coworker for help, being that men and women are different, he might ask for companionship or sex, so inorder to avoid those kinds of situations, the government comes up with sexual harassment, of course the end result is the man is still getting help, while the women is forced to struggle on her own, now let’s look at world of sports, women are demanding the right to compete in the PGA, At the same time the LPGA is trying to keep men off their tour,you would think that feminist would love to see women beating a man off the shorter tees now let;s go to the military, currently their is no draft, but wars are inevitable, thats why men are still required to register with the selective service when they turn eighteen, this law has been challenged by men who want EVERY women in America to register just like they have to do, but it has been kept in tact because of the word combat, so I’m just wondering if women who are currently yelling you go girl might actually find themselves on the front lines while men stay home a make coffee, because thats what they afre asking for, so why should men even care, if a women wants to get up at five in the morning and find themselves stuck in a workplace for eight hours, seven days a week then go for it, i’m sure their are a lot of men who have no problem staying home and watching the kids, so you decide what job is harder or does it really matter, their are also a lot of men who would love to see women send off to die for their country, while they stay home and cheer them on, so are women really happy that they have a opportunity to be more like a man, or have men become more confident by watching women try to perform task their not cabale of doing with their help. just by looking at voting patterns, it looks like single women want the government to be their husbands, while men have adjusted and even benefited by the feminist movement, or maybe not.

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @mcveen. I have come to the conclusion your brain has short circuited do to all the action of your busy hands doing the 24/7 Puneta or Cascarsela. Save your hands for fun times as I’m no longer going to bring myself down to your level. And shame on me for biting into your stupidity. So let me say..Bob Voyalge, Say Lavee, Adios

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @mcveen. An adult type forum and literate? Then I suggest you sign out as you seem to be on your “own page” of lack of intellect. Your comment of “CHRIST ALMIGHTY” speaks for itself as far as intellect and knowledge of what you are talking about! That’s your idea of forum and literate comments? :) :) You talk about adult forum/literate??? When you are so ignorant you ask JOSH the silly, illiterate question “are you friends with “Jeff and Little Patty?” Childish comment. Look up ignorant in the dictionary.. Note that JOSH’S reply/answer was “no, just screen names” and then his question back at you was “AND THE PURPOSE OF YOUR QUESTION”? I can’t speak for Josh or Jeff but I can speak for Little Patty and my observation and it is also possible that Josh, Jeff might think you need to take your sack of marbles and go play with the kids. How do you spell COLLEGE? COLLEGE..To bad you didn’t give it a try.

    • mcveen

      That was extremely well thought. Impressive!

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @mcveen. A Hole? Could be arrogant, or asshole, chose your poison. I know which term I have chosen.

    • mcveen

      What term does little Patty choose for herself?

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @mcveen. Again you ignorant A hole. Your stupidity is beyond comprehension. I tried to be cordial and respond and you are so ignorant that you can’t figure out that I am an ISU alumni. AND Jeff Webb also explained to you that ISU means Iowa State University. You poor dumb jerk! However, I don’t know how to connect with illiterates as does Jeff Webb.. We tried to answer your ignorant statement with dignity but apparently you dropped out of school in K-1.

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @mcveen:disqus A hole..

    • mcveen

      Ignorant, dear little Patty? Simple observation. You have proven the concept of Bernie’s article.

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @JEFF WEBB AND WIFE. Hey, how did you like the game last night/ISU vs BAYLOR? I called it a real barn burner..ISU didn’t look very good at the start of the game but came back with a vengeance. I loved the band aid over the ISU fans eyes out of respect for the player that got banged up night before. Can’t remember players name. I can remember going to an ISU vs Seattle Huskies a number of years back. I Sat in the ISU section and unbelievable with all the parents and relatives, supporters of the football players attending. It was just like old times while attending games when in college. Used to sit in the Pep Club section on the 50 yard line and flip the cards :) Not a lot of Peps in their section in my day..Again, I claim the 5th as to when I attended :)

    • Jeff Webb

      We were too busy to catch the game, sadly. Man, they really earned that title!

      Don’t worry about dating yourself. Just say you got there after Jack Trice and before Tim Dobbins.

    • mcveen

      What is ISU?

  • JASVN67

    Bossy come on. It’s word. Why take offense? Both sexes have the title in this world today, don’t they? It is what they do with this empowerment which matters! If they treat their subordinates with dignity and respect, draw out the best from them to achieve a stated goal that is the mark of a qualified manager. Like everything you have good and bad bosses. Hopefully one has to work for the former and not the latter.
    On another note guess everyone knows America is about to give up control of its share of the internet. No joke!

    • mcveen

      Christ almighty!

  • George Williams

    My thanks to whoever is removing Annie’s comments because of their gratuitous abusiveness.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      “Annie” is “I Hate Fascists.” He likes to pretend he’s a woman from time to time. Don’t ask me why.

      • IHF

        Sometimes I pretend to be Sheriff John Daly!

    • I Hate Fascists

      No one more gratuitous and abusive than you Williams. “Golfer In Chief” “Orphan Annie” “If that pisses you off it was meant to” “tragic charity cases” Soros a “Nazi collaborator” “Silver Fish”. I just documented the phony Koch induced testimonials that when scrutinized all fell apart. Big tough talker. Look at you now you sniveling little coward. You cannot outhate me, you cannot outdebate me, you cannot outbloviate me. You lose on all counts. You are lower than pig doo-doo. Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it you garbagemouth punk.

      • George Williams

        LOL! Maybe you ought to be in comedy.

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @Ron..good comment. I’ve noticed for many years that little girls, women are called bossy when they want to make their point and boy/men are called assertive when they make their point. Also have noted girls/women with strong opinions are called aggressive but not men. Watching ISU and Baylor and my alma matter, ISU is starting out slow but hopefully they will continue to rally. Baylor is a tough team. I call them just short of “magical.” :)

    • mcveen

      Again, what does ISU mean?

      • Jeff Webb

        Iowa State University

  • http://att.net/ patty

    Nope, no need to change the word “BOSSY.” Parents just need to teach their children to respect each other. That there way isn’t always the right way, and above all not “my way or the highway.” Take turns with their ideas.

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @JEFF WEBB..You picked a “winner/keeper” for a wife :) ha. I am going to use the 5th so I don’t have to tell you what year I graduated from ISU/ha. :) Watching the playoff right now. ISU slow but looks like they might be rallying..

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @RON F. Again thanks for the response. Nice to have a respectful dialogue with you. Yes, the War on Women also applies to the males as well. I have been outraged since Jane Valez Mitchell came up with the WAR ON WOMEN.” as woman/girls have every right to be out on the streets late at night! Bars are not the bars of years ago. They are now called “clubs” and respectable places for the younger generation to meet friends, make new friends, dance, chat it up. Clubs right in the University districts. Having children/grandchildren who were/are in college Sororities or Fraternities, I’m in the know :) Not like yester year when in “bars” you would find mostly a bunch of red necks drinking too much, loud, putting cigarettes out on the floor and every other word profanity. The “bar” women and men both looking to not go home alone!!! Remember “the women and men get better looking at closing time.” ha. Sorry to be such a ramblers :) Waiting for tonight March Madness when Iowa State (Cyclones) my alma matter plays Baylor! After watching them beat Texas last night, ISU has their work cut out for them and should be a barn burner :) p.s. Definitely agree..Not whinny!

    • Jeff Webb

      Uh-oh, tangent alert! Patty, my wife is a Cyclone too! We visited her family a few years ago and got to watch North Dakota State get beaten at Trice. : )>

      • mcveen

        Jeff, you are so sweet. This forum is not like FB. Y’all are supposed to have cogent arguments, ideas, something valid or even valuable, to contribute, etc.

    • mcveen

      Well CRAP Patty! If you hang your freaky little self around the ISU locker room long enough, you might find a freaky little ball player that will give you what you want. How IN HELL did you find this forum?

  • Josh

    Yes, I’ve spammed this board a lot thus far. But, I thought some of the Republicans/conservatives/right-wingers here who blame this all on “liberals” might be interested to see in how some on the left (hint: not progressive nutjobs) are taking it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwKKi7ApP4I

    • mcveen

      Josh, are you friends with little Patty and Jeff?

      • Josh

        I don’t know them, other than literally looking at their names on my screen as I type this.

        The purpose of the question?

        • mcveen

          You seem to share their logic.

          • Josh

            I suppose, at this point, it’s too much to ask what you’re talking about. You don’t seem the type to explain anything but rather just point out to the person on the pot next to yours how much what they’re doing stinks.

            I count around 10 responses from you just down to this post, with nearly every one piggybacked on someone else’s taking the piss or feigning some sense of superiority. So I’ll just assume you’re doing a poor imitation of a troll until otherwise cleared up.

            Put a little feeling into the next one. At least an insult to give yourself some chuckles. Better to burn out and all that…

  • Wally C

    Isn’t saying they are unhappy with the word “bossy”, being bossy?

  • Ron F

    Are we being whiny about the article? We may disagree with it but it doesn’t make the authors whinny.

  • LHS

    Perfectly put, Bernie. “Whiny”.
    I’m laughing and trying to blurt out “right on” in the same breath.

  • Josh

    Banning “bossy’ is just the lightweight stuff. I don’t know how Bernie and Fox and others managed to pick up on this one but not others. But the first-world problems created by these chicks are smacking people hard. “Bossy” is pretty tame.

    – A movement (that has a lot of leverage) to change video games: characters, plots, female “tropes” like the damsel in distress, princesses, body shapes, etc — all in the name of changing male attitudes about women. You know, ’cause every guy believes that video game avatars are representative of what real-world women should be (huge bewbs, and kill ‘em and they respawn?).

    – A movement (that’s already succeeded, really) to shut down free speech and even the marketplace at skeptic conferences (see Skepchick and P.Z. Myers and their ilk) and campuses and other public locations. You can’t speak freely; you can’t sell anything that’s not pre-approved by the counsel.

    – Why do folks think we need sexual “harassment” classes in the workplace? Sexual harassment = a guy a girl isn’t attracted to flirting with her, or flirting the girl didn’t initiate.

    – A movement (it’s going nowhere though) to ban pornography, to shut down strip clubs, and to get rid of prostitution. Supposedly, these professions demean women rather than giving them power over their own lives. Women only need to resort to these professions because the patriarchy has constructed an unfair marketplace where women can’t compete. (I suppose, in reality, this one is actually on the radar, but many conservatives agree with shutting it down, even if for different reasons.)

    – A movement (this one is scary!) to redefine what “rape” is. Here are just a few highlights:

    > If a girl has been drinking, she cannot give consent — rape.

    > If a man has been drinking, he should know better — rape.

    > If a man asks a girl out without her consent — attempted rape.

    > If a man doesn’t support feminist definitions — rape enabler.
    > If a man watches porn, goes to strip clubs, sleeps with different women — rapist.

    > If a girl later regrets the sexual encounter and feels she was coaxed into bed ala honeyed words and broken promises — rape.
    > If a guy makes the first move — attempted rape.
    > If a guy finds women physically attractive — rape culture.

    > If a guy expects monogamy — slave rapist.
    > If a guy wants an open relationship — serial rapist.
    > Any intimate encounter that the female doesn’t completely control, from speaking to slippin’ and slidin’ — rape.

    And, scariest of all in the whole “rape” movement: Feminists want to remove personal responsibility from all people in terms of taking safety precautions. So, get blackout drunk at a frat party. Walk down that dark alley with your thong showing. Dance and flirt with every drunk man at the club. Kiss and party and let it all hang out. Men shouldn’t rape, no matter what, so it’s not up to you ladies to take precautions; it’s up to men to not rape.

    This is what’s being taught to people’s dang daughters at universities and in the social circles of younger folks. Do whatever you want, any time you want. Don’t teach me how to act or how to dress; teach men not to rape.

    I could go on for days and days. Literally. Wanting to ban certain words is third tier stuff for the cause. Just wait until the rest starts breaking through to the surface. I’m eager to see the reactions.

  • George Williams

    The problem isn’t with the word “bossy”, but with the failure to instill the idea in girls that it’s ok to be bossy, if bossy means asserting yourself when you know that you are right..

  • http://cogitarus.wordpress.com/ ★✩★ David ★✩★

    Okay Bernie, you finally wrote one to which I can say CHEERS! Treat me like an equal, because I am an equal, but give me police protection when some knuckle dragging male across the street whistles or gives me a long stare because my mini-skirt hardly covers my derrière. Please ladies, it’s one or the other. I prefer the weaker more valuable traditional women who needs strong men around for protection over the new “bossy” but equal types.

  • http://att.net/ patty

    Impressive women and deleting the word bossy from the dictionary/English language. What a joke. I wonder what bossy, pampered, spoiled, controlling brat came home from school, day care, a friends house crying to the impressive mother that she was called “bossy.”? Real world, cruel world/so suck it up.

    • mcveen

      Patty, this is supposed to be an ‘adult’ type forum. Please be literate.

  • Mark W.

    Maybe the world is a better place, after all… IF this is what’s the most important thing to be talking about.

  • Gewineda

    Well said, Bernie. However, there are certain aspects of the current discussion that show that it isn’t as bad as all that…mainly.

    I have looked and see no evidence that these impressive women are promoting legislation to block the use of “bossy” or using courts to press it out of existence. Also hopefully there will be no effort to make the word de rigeur for widespread and First Amendment-denying campus speech codes. In the absence of any such draconian steps, however, simple social pressure about such a word, one that is almost universally perceived as a sex-directed perjorative term, is just an effort to alter the public use or perception of the word.

    However, almost everyone understands the negative connotations of “bossy”. It is much the same as the body image issues found in Hollywood with “fat”. (Kudos to Ms. Lawrence for taking public issue with it and refusing to succumb to pressure to be “thin”, i.e. “anorexic.”) A little social pressure to hold down the use of the word in the standard lexicon is not a bad thing.

    May I suggest, too, that some very negative words have become almost badges of honor, as members of a group co-opt a word to present a matter of pride? “Hillbilly” and “Redneck” have had so much of the sting taken out of them simply by their adoption in humor and by the population of “rednecks” and “hillbillies” who have accepted the word as their own? Despite the complaints of those who wonder why, if black Americans can use the “n” word, why cannot they, are missing this same point; that the sting of such a word, for black Americans, is lessened by adopting the word among themselves as a source of racial or group identity.

    There is no reason that “bossy” cannot be made to fit this mold. “Yes, I am bossy, that is what the company hired me for, so suck it up. You have a problem with that?”

    I guess what I am saying is that as long as the issue does not become a legal ban on the use of the word, and is an effort to get people to choose less inflammatory words, and/or to become owners of the word, I don’t consider this whining.

    Thank you for your columns and books and appearances and blogs, Bernie. I have followed you for a long time and appreciate all that you do, even when I have some disagreements with you.

  • Larry blaspheming liberalism

    Go back to the 2000 NY Senate debate, Lazio vs. wannabe Empress Hillary. When Lazio walked over to Hillary with a challenge, the libs cried “Sexual Harassment!” If it wouldn’t have been harassment had that been, say, Chuck Schumer, it shouldn’t have been harassment toward Clinton. Liberalism requires a double standard. Liberalism requires hypocrisy.

    • mcveen

      Yeah, that describes liberal thought police action today. In less than 20 years from now, free speech forums like this will no longer exist above ground. If free thinkers don’t start turning back the gaining tide of socialism and govt control, there will be no place in this country for us. Our only hope is to vote 3rd party.

  • Tim Ned

    Women certainly are not “Bossy”. They simple articulate the same instructions over, and over, and over again.

    • George Williams

      Ned wages his own war on women.

      • Tim Ned

        No, I have several daughters!

  • wally12

    Right on target Bernie. These women are similar to many on the left. They do not get to the root cause. Even Condoleezza Rice signed up for the ban of the word bossy. I always had a high regard for her intelligence but now I have some misgivings. Changing words are not the cure. Another word will just take its place. Rather, these women and all women need to recognize the root cause is educating girls by their mothers and teachers that its acceptable to be bossy or assertive. They also need to be educated to recognize that being called bossy is a compliment and not derogatory. They need to be taught to ignore name calling just as my mother told me as a young boy that “Sticks and stones may break my bones but calling names will not hurt me”.

    • Mark W.

      You’re right… another word will take it’s place and that one will be banned, then replaced, then banned, replaced…ad infinitum.

      • wally12

        Amen to that. That is what some liberals are all about. These individuals have a habit of first creating a crisis and then announcing a solution that doesn’t even address the true cause. I’ll admit that there are some conservatives and libertarians that do the same but not to the degree that the liberals do. The liberals have taken the process to a new dimension. These include the war on women, racism, economic justice, minimum wage, gun control and a host of other fictitious wars that are designed to distract from their failings on other programs. The sad part is that the MSM eats all this garbage up and supports them while ignoring other important issues such as unemployment and the nations economy which are the priorities.

      • Ron F

        Mark, what word has been banned and by whom?

    • Gewineda

      Certainly changing words is not *the* solution. It is, however, one of many gradual influences and has been one effective influence in other societal issues.

      However, I agree with you that co-opting the word for womens’ own use is also one other effective strategy.

      That said, although, overall, the differences between sexes are smaller or at least no greater than the differences within one sex, the *average* differences show that it is still more difficult, I would say inherently difficult, for girls to deal with “bossy” and other issues than boys. Having had one of each, there are some similarities, but also some differences, between high school boys and high school girls when it comes to social situations. Generally girls are more mature and more advanced in some things. However, whether it was my son’s class (he is now 23) or my daughter’s class (she just turned 16), girls have some social issues that just do not show as often among boys (and vice-versa). Whether it is the girls in my son’s class, or my daughter and the girls in her school, I have often observed a rapid shuffling of friendships and abrupt changes to being on the outs among girls more than boys. My daughter stayed the night last night with a girl who is a friend; but they were on the outs last week; but they were friends the week before.

      • wally12

        I mentioned the advice my mother gave me as a young boy that “sticks and stones may break my bones but calling names can not hurt me”. It was good advice and provided me with a sense of some comfort. However, that didn’t mean that I was immune to hurtful remarks because I was. I was called various nick names when I was in grade school. One such name was eagle beak because my nose was narrow and relatively sharp. Whenever these names were said to me, I ignored the person who wanted a response rather that starting a fight. After a while the person who knew I wouldn’t respond gave up using the name and we continued to have a civil relationship. In other words, I grew up. Women are not the only ones whom get picked on and they not the only ones who seek to have their hurt feelings addressed by government or the legal system. Recently even big football players have had difficulty handling name calling by others. The black player, Martin, was harassed by another player. He didn’t learn how to handle the name calling so he resorted to the legal system and the government to help him solve the problem. In his case, I would have challenged the offender if simply ignoring and conversation didn’t succeed. Instead, we are now going to have more regulations regarding name calling and supply fodder for lawyers. Is that what the women who get called Bossy are hoping for? I don’t think so but once these issues become publicized, politicians can’t resist sticking their noses into the matter with some form of legislation.

  • MontanaMade

    @Stimpy- Ted Bundy murdered young college girls and Roy Cohn was a closeted gay prosecutor for Joseph McCarthy & J Edgar Hoover that later died of AIDS- but neither were pedophiles as far as we know… so what’s the point?

  • MontanaMade

    On a good note- this MUST means the liberals are actually running out of things to whine about!! If this is the most pressing thing they have in the arsenal- they’re screwed…

    • grainbirds

      Some are suggesting this was a political effort to use the fake “War on Women” meme on HRC’s behalf as part of campaigning for her for the 2016 race. That seems very possible to me. If so, it’s a disgrace to use an organization meant to benefit children in order to engage in politics. I guess we’ll see as time goes on whether that is the case, and to what extent the pattern will continue of misusing organizations for political purposes.

      • MontanaMade

        Since when has the left ever used a sense of decency in the last 50 years in politics?? They have a platform of “Anything Goes” to get elected or to get the right people elected (HRC?). The right has used their fair share as well, but I have never seen it to the extent the left has.
        The last presidential election is a good example of one candidate (MR) trying to stay the course and not mud-sling and one that took the “kitchen sink” approach (BHO). Guess who won? There are plenty of PAC’s that will resort to low blows all the time- there are no rules for them- but most of the crap slung in the last election had the tag line “I’m Barack Obama, and I approve this message.” Romney tried his best to stay out of the sinkhole and it cost him big because he was seen as weak to the conservative base. In today’s politics- it’s the guy/gal that piles on the lies fast and deep enough that will win the day because it takes time for people to figure out the truth and most often it’s too late when they do! We are just NOW understanding the depth of Obama’s lies form 2008!! And because of it- we spend way too much energy sifting through all the crap to get anything meaningful done.
        just my honest opinion.

        • grainbirds

          I pretty much agree with your opinion. Except that I include the liberal media’s campaigning for Obama and against Romney as part of the unethical behavior. I’m guessing you agree on that. The clever thing the Left does is to convince so many people that the other side are the dregs of humanity and their side the good people, which leads to the “ends justify the means” and similar rationalizing. I also sucks in many truly decent people who perhaps don’t want to think everything all the way through. IMO.

          • MontanaMade

            right on the money! The media is completely bought and paid for these days. It was so refreshing to see someone (CBS News) actually step down because they just couldn’t take it any more! If only more would call it like that- people would start to awaken from the drunken slumber they’ve been in and see the left for what it really is-

          • grainbirds

            Except I don’t think it’s so much about money. On the other hand, given the clear ideological editorial stands of the alphabets, maybe some of the bias is simply about survival.

  • George Williams

    They tried to snuff out “illegal alien” and replace it with “undocumented immigrant”, but it didn’t work. Despite the name change, it doesn’t change the feelings of those who believe illegal immigration is contempt for national sovereignty. “Bossy” will disappear and “bitch” or something else will replace it. You don’t change attitudes by manipulating semantics.

  • 4deuce

    This is a frivolous demand proffered by those with agendas that, were they to find the way to have power, would use “bossy” methods to shape society into their personal desired images. Liberals delight in trying their best to play with words and do their best to redefine words to aid the advancement of their causes. Notice how feminist influences have been working overtime to emasculate American boys and suppress their natural instincts – especially in our public schools. Anybody dumb enough to give any attention to the so called desires of these women are sheep that these two happily will lead to the slaughter with smiles on their faces.

  • Homer

    Math and science are among the highest paying jobs. Not just in the, but all around the free world.
    Why not address that issue? Why not encourage girls to put more effort in that field?

  • Nicholas344

    Ridiculous. This is a leftist attack on cows.

    bos·sy

    3 /ˈbɒsi, ˈbɔsi/ Show Spelled [bos-ee, baw-see] Show IPA

    noun, plural bos·sies.

    a familiar name for a cow or calf.

    The left seeks to attack these poor animals by insinuating feminists are better than them. Why this obvious bigotry? Why can’t we all be equal and let these women and cows just get along without dissension. Both cows and these complaining women can share in the name bossy in service to societal peace.

    • Not speaking PC-ly

      You forgot “the other” B-word which has been banned:

      Definition of BITCH:
      1: the female of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals

      Now I have to say, “Nice Doggy!”

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @STIMPY. Ted Bundy murdered many young, innocent girls?what’s your point? Drawing a blank on Roy Cohn..!@ WHEELS 55/ Good one :)

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @Ron. Enjoyed your respectful comment :) Yes, I know that the article didn’t mention WAR ON WOMEN. Article refers to women/girls being called bossy and not assertive and yet it is ok for boys to be (bossy() which is called assertive :) If you have time read my previous article and my comment on War on Women. Don’t know if you will find interesting :) Thanks.

    • Ron F

      Patty, i saw your earlier blog and agree with most of it. Most of the things you said apply to men as well. If you do not want to deal with drunks stay out of bars late at night. I think “war on women” is an absurd term. My primary point is that most of the comments were not directed to what the ladies actually said in the article. I may disagree with the conclusion but I do not think the article is worth this much criticism and I do not think the two authors were whinny.

  • Midwesterner

    Right again Bernie, regarding the whining. I saw these ladies on Tv, as well as little girls at a pricey Manhattan school who explained that if you were bossy nobody wanted to be your friend. I say quit whining and own the word “bossy” because it’s true. AND SO WHAT? Most girls are cliquish and terribly attuned to group dynamics once they’ve been absorbed into the Borg Collective. The independent girls see things their own way, they want to do what they want to do without having all of the other girls sign a permission slip, and they want to lead the way to achieve a goal, whether it’s a playground activity, or a school project. Boss On, Ladies. Somebody’s gotta do it.

  • Stimpy

    War on women? How about war on boys? Ask Roy Cohn or Ted Bundy.

  • TheOriginalDonald

    #BanPotvin #LGR

  • Annie Lingus

    Do you really believe they are actually trying to ban a word? Or perhaps it is more emblematic? Do you know what emblematic means? Let me explain it to you in terms you can understand. Emblematic is how Americans For Prosperity defend their attack ads against Mary Landrieux purporting to document real live Louisanans who have had their insurance policies cancelled due to Obamacare, then are confronted with the truth that these “Louisanans” are in fact paid actors.

    BTW you neglected to mention one of the whiners at the forefront of this movement. That would be every right winger’s wet dream of black womanhood, Condoleezza Rice.

    • grainbirds

      If the AFP claimed that actors were real people who had lost their insurance due to the ACA, that was wrong.

      But the impression can’t be left with accuracy that these facts are untrue:

      1. Landrieu voted for the ACA.

      2. Landrieu voted against the 2010 Enzi bill, whose authors forsaw that people would lose existing policies due to the ACA, and sought to stop this.

      3. Millions of people, including some undergoing treatment for cancer and other life-threatening diseases who had perfectly good policies, lost them due to the ACA.

      • Sheila Warner

        I reject the idea that the people on those commercials are all actors, and their stories are untrue. This is Harry Reid’s talking point, and now it is parroted by liberals all over the place.

        Some people have benefited from the ACA, but vast numbers of people have not. No side should call the others’ examples as lies.

        • Annie Lingus
          • Sheila Warner

            Thanks for the link. I’m reminded of other commercials for products in which letters to a company are read by actors, and you have to read the fine print to know that. The words are from real customers, but actors read them. Buyer beware. There have been plenty of stories told by the affected people themselves, though, so the LA ads aren’t necessarily false. Misleading? Sure. But both the Left & the Right do the same. I live in NJ, which probably perfected the negative ad industry, so I take any political commercial with a grain of salt. The Right has Koch, the Left has Soros. So what? The article to which you linked was a “Koch brothers are evil” type of article. Again, Koch and Soros can spend their fortunes any way they choose to.

          • Annie

            Oh come now Sheila, Koch and Soros are equivalent? Soros does not hide behind dark money pools the way the Koch Bros do.

            As for the Romney ad, there is also no equivalence. Joe Soptic not an actor. He is a real person using his real name telling his story as he sees it. You could take issue with his use of the words “shortly after” to characterize the time period between him losing his job (2001) and the discovery of his wife’s illness (2006). Also that she had her own health insurance thru her job until she left due to a shoulder injury. Also that Romney was no longer with Bain when the plant closed. And many on both sides have taken issue, unlike the right wing propaganda where they all unite and double down. What you cannot take issue with is this: Bain Capital (with Romney) took over GST Steel and it later went bankrupt, maybe thru bad decisions, maybe thru bad breaks, maybe both, but no skin off Bain / Romney’s potatoe, they extracted their millions up front. Adding insult to injury was Romney’s campaign manager who bloviated that Joe and his wife should have lived in Massachussetts where they would have been covered under Romneycare.

            If you can document any false or misleading ad linked to Soros please do.

            http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/09/priorities-usa-action/pro-obama-group-blames-romney-womans-death/

          • George Williams

            “Soros does not hide behind dark money pools the way the Koch Bros do.” LOL! No, Soros does the same thing in public and gets away with it because the media agrees with him. What’s a “dark money pool”? I aver that Koch and others prefer to keep their affairs private because they would otherwise be attacked by the vicious left. Conservatives prefer to avoid attracting the libels and slanders that are the stock and trade of the Alinsky communists, aka, the Democratic Party.

            “If you can document any false or misleading ad linked to Soros please do.” LOL! That’s because Soros has his nasty surrogates doing the job for him. You have to be naive or stupid to believe that such a man would allow himself to be directly linked to anything that would hurt his reputation.

          • Annie

            Dark money, moron, is anonymous undisclosed contributions to any number of networked organizations linked to the Koch Bros and designed to obfuscate the source of the contributions. Capiche? Now what do you suppose these fine upstanding individuals who sincerely believe in dirty air, dirty water, clean coal, and that What’s Good For The Koch Bros Is Good For You, have to hide? Soros a Nazi? I don’t know what orifice you pulled that out of, or why you would even want to go there given that Papa Koch founded the John Birch Society. Prefer not to be attacked? Awwww. What’s a Fascist to do? Maybe they could change their name to … GEORGE WILLIAMS!!!

          • George Williams

            Just name one “networked” organization. The same people who gave us Obamacare and didn’t read their bill are the same people who demonize the Koch brothers. This is all slander and libel on honest citizens. The parrot repeats Obama’s slanders and libels as if he had any credibility except with his mindless sycophants….. “……upstanding individuals who sincerely believe in dirty air, dirty water,….” The same man who is universally believe to have told the lie of the year with his keep your doctor, keep your insurance policy, no one’s talking about that” statements is still believed by them. Keep drinking the Kool Aid that makes you believe in unicorns and talking horses. Who’s the moron?

          • Annie
          • George Williams

            Soros is an opportunist. Soros is out for Soros as he was when he collaborated with the Nazis to save his own skin… http://sweetness-light.com/archive/george-soros-on-helping-the-nazis-during-the-holocaust#.UyP-jSjPYuo

          • Annie

            Soros was 14 years old when he “collaborated with the Nazis” you bloviating blowhard. Now find me a 60 Minutes interview where the Koch Bros share their views on the John Birch Society that their Papa founded. For that matter find me any interview with the Koch Bros on anything. You are the (Koch) sucker George.

        • legal eagle

          Ok…can we say they are misrepresentations?…If my healthcare premiums changed from quarterly to monthly payments should I be saying that I’m outraged because my policy changed or I’m paying more when I’m not?

          • Sheila Warner

            I’ll concede that point. Both sides resort to tactics like this. The one I remember from the Left was the impression that Mitt Romney was personally responsible for the cancer death of a woman. How you been?

          • George Williams

            Don’t bother. Legal Eagle has Harry Reid’s and Nancy Pelosi’s sense of ethics. I’m sure his head was nodding approvingly when the left made that accusation. His side never objects to libel or slander when it’s for the greater good.

          • grainbirds

            Loved the irony in your comment.

          • George Williams

            Compare that to the lengths the Democrats go to. “If you like your plan, you can keep it, period! If you like your doctor you can keep him, period.” “The average family of four will save $2,500.”, Barack Obama. That’s the lie of the year. Fact: The Republicans discredited that statement long before it was news, yet Obama and his cronies repeated it, over and over and over and over again, including Harry Reid. I have to say that just about anything the Democrats have said about Obamacare is misleading or a downright lie. The Obama administration makes claims about signups to the ACA every day without any proof. Obamacare is supposed to improve on the number of insured, but that’s clearly not the case. As the result of the ACA, every indicator tells us that there are fewer insured, not more. There’s no reason to believe that Harry has increased his credibility since he lied about Romney paying taxes. Reid not only lied, but lied n the floor of the Senate. He should have been censured. Nancy Pelosi just announced that she heard from an anonymous source that the Republican caucus has expressed a callous disregard for the the needy. What kind of people are these Democrats that they use unattributable sources as proof of anything? Your friends are little more than cowardly nasty rumor mongers who attempt to destroy people without having to produce the smallest kind of evidence. There’s a small chance you’ll ever find a Democrat senator or representative today that isn’t using Alinsky’s Rulse for Radicals, where lying is acceptable in the pursuit of what they perceive as a higher cause. Tell me why we should believe anything Obama and Democrats say on any issue? As an unqualified supporter of Obama, your honor lies with the fate of his. That’s why you too have no credibility, Legal Beagle.

          • grainbirds

            Well said.

            “What kind of people are these Democrats that they use unattributable sources as proof of anything?” Answer: Tammany Hall relics who think we’ll believe anything.

          • legal eagle

            GFY

          • George Williams

            The same to you JA. You’re all the same, lacking in ethics. A response that I’d expect from the likes of you, legal eagle. You show the world how base you really are.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>GFY<<

            "George Flummoxed You."

          • George Williams

            This creepy little man is easily bested because he is incapable of more than one sentence discussions. He tires after ten of fifteen words and goes to his room for a half hour nap or to change his nappy. I forget which it is.

          • LHS

            I’m re-reading Rules for Radicals now, just to be sure I didn’t miss something. I didn’t. Same schmidt, different day. Every day. Every tactic used and being used by the current admin and the entire Dem party matches up chapter by chapter, word for word. But we can’t expect lemmings to actually read anything that goes against their “leaders'” agenda, can we? Hell, we can’t get most of PBO’s supporters to READ anything.
            It is absolutely pitiful.
            Oh, and BTW, all the insurance I’ve found is four to five times higher than our previous insurance with OOPs at $6,000. And that’s the BRONZE plan, the supposed “best” monthly pmt. And we can’t get a special subsidy from Uncle Sammy because my wife and I “make too much”. So, we’ll have to go to the poorhouse now to get insurance. But that’s not poor enough and I don’t know the “right people”. And we know who they are. Luckily for you, George, you made that group, but we don’t fault YOU. I fault the entire Dem party for ramming this country-wrecking catastrophe down everyone’s throat – with NOT ONE Repub vote. Un-freakin’-heard of.

          • George Williams

            Thanks. The rest of you are victims and I’ll stand with you because that’s the right thing to do.

          • George Williams

            “If my healthcare premiums changed from quarterly to monthly payments should I be saying that I’m outraged because my policy changed or I’m paying more when I’m not?”

            But no one claimed such a thing, did they? That’s just something that you made up, so it has no validity. They are talking cold hard facts, like unaffordable premiums and deductibles so high as to make less than catastrophic claims pointless.

          • Annie

            Bette Grenier aka “Bette in Spokane” immortalized by McMorris-Rodgers in her SOTU response – paid $552/month for a $10,000 deductible plan, under Obamacare could have paid $1052/month, or $100 less thru the state’s website, possibly less with subsidies, for a better plan with lower deductibles and better coverage.

            http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/jan/30/bette-in-spokane-cited-in-mcmorris-rodgers-speech/

            Julia Boonstra, featured in an AFP add testifying that her plan was cancelled, that under Obamacare her out of pocket costs increased, coverage decreased, and implying that she lost her “wonderful doctor”. Facts are: She did not lose her doctor, her premiums were cut almost in half, and her out of pocket expenses $5100 / year (like all Obamacare plans OOP cannot exceed $6350 /year).

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/03/11/update-julia-boonstras-claim-her-obamacare-plan-is-unaffordable-gets-downgraded-to-three-pinocchios/?tid=hpModule_ba0d4c2a-86a2-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394&hpid=z11

            Cornelius Kelly who claimed to have been told that his infant daughter could not be covered under his Obamacare family policy because she was under the age of 2. Facts are: He did not include his infant daughter in his application. (It should also be noted that he ran on the Conservative Party line for an assembly seat in Suffolk county).

            http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2013/12/8536774/obamacare-covers-babies-too-despite-post-report

            So George, what’s your Obamacare story? Put your smiling face in front of the camera and let’s hear it.

          • George Williams

            I am under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, one exempted from Obamacare. I answered your question, so now you should be obligated to tell me your situation. If Obama really believed in the overall success of his program he would not have just given a free pass on the mandates. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/white-house-delays-health-insurance-mandate-for-medium-sized-employers-until-2016/2014/02/10/ade6b344-9279-11e3-84e1-27626c5ef5fb_story.html http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/12/obamacare-band-aid-millions-potentially-exempted-from-individual-mandate/ While misrepresentations are disturbing, I believe that history will show that while some benefit by Obamacare, far more will be losers, especially the young adults who will not be able to afford it. Since it is unlikely that they will bite at the bait, premiums will rise through the roof next year, making you look foolish. Without them, them to subsidize the rest, the insurance companies will likely go out of business. You fail to prognosticate the future of Obamacare.

          • Annie

            Federal Employee eh? I’m very happy for you. I also have health insurance thru my employer. But for those not so fortunate do you have a solution for universal health care? Or just blow them off as tragic charity cases? We will see about your prognostications. You have no credentials (other than being a miserable hateful cantankerous SOB) to prognosticate about Obamacare or anything else, so take your prognostications and blow them out your blowhole you bloviating blowhard

          • Annie

            You are long on hating prognosticating and bloviating but woefully short on substance. Now answer the question – do you have a solution for universal healthcare other than encouraging the “tragic charity cases” to do themselves and everyone else a favor and drop dead?

          • Integrity

            Quit being bossy! QED

          • Annie

            Lickmysnatch QED

          • George Williams

            I suggest that if you have strong charitable desires, by all means spend your own money on them and not enlist the force of law through our tax system to do so. By what God given right should your ilk force some people to subsidized others against their will? I’ve got news for you, despite the good feelings that you have in forcing taxpayers to subsidize the poor, it is not charity. Charity is when you sacrifice your own money and possessions. People like you are petty tyrants. And when you called Michelle Malkin a Fillipinna fascist, showing your bigoted side, we can now judge your for the hypocritical acne faced bigot you are.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Sacrifice my own money? No way! We would much rather sacrifice your money. And we are going to keep right on doing that. Because yeah, we are tyrants. And there is not a gosh darn thing you can do about it because your Koch Dynasty Fascist Fantasyland is going to remain just that.

          • George Williams

            I suspect that the people of Colorado would disagree with you….. http://michellemalkin.com/2014/03/12/my-familys-misadventures-with-obamacare-continued/

          • Annie

            I don’t believe anything that Filipina Fascist says. Let her provide details and her story will fall apart just like all the rest.

          • George Williams

            I don’t think there’s anyone on earth who would take a fool like you seriously. You’re a racist. And it doesn’t matter what you or any of your kind think. The statistics concerning Obamacare will be out sometime in early April and they’ll prove Obama and Sebelius to be the liars they are.

          • Annie

            She is a Filipina Fascist. And you are a white Fascist. So what?

          • grainbirds

            You should say whatever the truth is. As far as the anti-Landreiu ads, if they claimed the actors were real people and did not put any disclaimers about re-enactments of real occurrences, then they lied. Which left it open for opportunists on the other side like Reid/JournoListers to seize on this and lie to the public by saying there ARE no real people with real stories. Many people still won’t check many things for themselves. There are plenty of real victims, although they may not want to be seen in ads.

        • grainbirds

          It didn’t occur to me that only some were actors. I agree the truth is important, whatever it is.

          You say that “paid actors in an AFP ad = all ACA horror stories are lies” is a heavily-used Talking Point and that sounds pretty typical. You can even see the typical process: Harry Reid, instead of saying some of those people in the ads were actors, claims that all ACA horror stories are lies – he’s the headwaters. Then the false equation flows to the next level – liberal journalists in articles and on social media, then it trickles to all the commenters on websites.

          You can also see how he also tried to use the “Koch Brothers are buying the country” meme in the same process, but that got somewhat lost in the brouhaha over his saying all the people who lost their policies are liars.

          They treat the public like credulous fools, and disrespect us with their attempts to manipulate us.

          Last night on O’Reilly he had two liberal guests who are also recovering addicts on to discuss the legalized pot issue. When o”Reilly brought up the question of liberals driving all this legalization of pot such as in Coloradao, one of them claimed this was all because of noble motivations: it’s to stop injustice in which black citizens are targeted for drug arrests, and all under the philanthropic auspices of Soros. The other man agreed. It’s not my place to criticize other people’s twelve step programs, but I will anyway: if those guys have programs which include rigorous honesty, they forsook them in favor of politics, IMO.

    • Integrity

      Yes. Not only do they want to ban words, but thoughts as well, to wit: Condoleezza Rice, Michelle Malkin, and Thomas Sowell.

      • IHF

        QED

  • Sheila Warner

    Banning words is just plain silly. I use “bossy” all the time, and I don’t see anything sexist about it. Of course, it’s my female dog, Daisy, that I am describing. Which brings up that other B word….

    • Jeff Webb

      >>I use “bossy” all the time, and I don’t see anything sexist about it.<<

      I'd try to figure it out with you, but I'm still working on the whole "Chicago"=racist thing.

  • Mark Rushing

    Oh my goodness! The stupidity and audacity of liberals never fails to entertain or outrage. One or the other seems to be the extent of their abilities. While liberals are waging war on Americans they are hiring convicted terrorists as financial analysts at the IRS where they will no doubt have access to the average Americans medical history, financial data, political party etc.. etc.. etc… Despite the fact the guy entered a guilty plea on all felony counts, Obama and crew think that because he is a Muslim from the well known religion of peace that he musn’t be continuously punished for his mistake of while serving as a law enforcement officer, tipping off terrorists that were under surveillance by the FBI. He didn’t just say “Hello Ahkmed, you are being investigated” he gave them descriptions of rental, leased, government and LEO vehicles and front companies complete with license plate numbers. The poor ole FBI couldn’t figure out how they were getting blown no matter what kind of car they were in.

    I think these two batty bitches should be worried about the why’s and how’s of a known enemy of the United States that conspired with terrorists to do harm to this country and its people, is now in another government position of trust and power with access to Americans most personal information and lives. Are you bossy hating ladies beginning to see the pattern the rest of America clearly sees? Obama placing terrorists in government positions and paying them with our tax dollars to work against us adn be privy to all sorts of sensitive information? Obamacare navigator terrorist ring any bells?

    • Ron F

      Mark, I read the opinion piece. I do not know if they are liberals or not but what does their opinion piece have to do with terrorists. And if the opinion piece distracts from paying attention to more important matters, is worrying about the opinion piece just as distracting?

      • Mark Rushing

        RLMAO.. What it has to do with terrorism is the fact that while they are bitching about another liberal first amendment freedom from speech issue, there are more important things that should be worrying them and more deserving of airtime and coverage rather than a frivolous complaint about the word “bossy” as if it only applies to women.

        Would it have been better had I used hungry American children as another topic deserving of a press conference?

        I sincerely appreciated your attempt at philosophy with that tongue twister.. lol.. Kind -f has the same effect of “if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?” The steady erosion of the first amendment due to what the left terms “political correctness” is completely out of control just as the rest of the government is.

        • Ron F

          Mark, I agree terrorism is more important but I am not sure worrying about how a word is used means they cannot be concerned about terrorism as well. I also do not see it as an attack on the First Amendment. I read the piece and I did not see them advocate any government action. I do not care what people advocate regarding speech as long as it does not involve government action. I am still free to ignore them.

          • Mark Rushing

            I see your point Ron but the thing is, if you simply ignore them long enough you WILL see government action. Liberals rely on the American people being to busy working their tails off to provide for their families to pay attention to what they are doing. Former Speaker of the House,

            Tip O’Neil even stated as much in front of TV cameras once while calling a vote. He stated that the American people are too busy working two jobs and running the kids to soccer games to even know or care about what we are doing.

            We have ignored liberals for too long, which is exactly why this country is in its current Constitutional crises with a president that has no regard for it or the rule of law. He has a pen and a phone.

            When things like this are put forth, it is our duty to speak up, whether for or against. Or we could simply do as the democrats do and try to shame everyone into silence and practice the four D’s of Deny, Disrupt, Degrade and Deceive. Turn their own tactics against them.

            I agree that it is a frivolous and trivial matter but it is exactly these trivial matters that they begin with to groom us for big legislation and political correctness and thought police. According to most democrats, even when they’ve no idea of ones color, you are racist if you stand up and speak out against the Cloward-Pivens doctrine they have set in motion.

            But you are right. The entire thing is ridiculous and deserves no more than a pointing out of their usual hypocrisy.

  • happel

    I am going to start a petition banning the word “Facebook” thus eradicating this woman’s existence. Bossy is a word, it is utterly random to start selecting which words should be removed from the English language… and a person of this woman’s stature certainly fails to pass the credibility test – especially when you see THIS: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304703804579381552745011772?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304703804579381552745011772.html

    She will make a terrific Disney tyrant on her next crusade to indoctrinate young women across the country.

    • MontanaMade

      How about just banning Facebook- period!? Name and all!

      • happel

        I recommend that notion wholeheartedly especially after Greenwald’s latest revelation.

  • Brad Gillespie

    There’s a war on anything that isn’t a white male, it would seem. This of course has to do with sexist attitudes, the same as our electing a black pres. has to do with racism. These grotesque attitudes exist because there is this inability in this country to resist the relentless urge to make sure everyone is equal and not being hindered by any sense of prejudice. The essence of freedom and being allowed to exercise your rights would naturally produce inequities and a sense that things aren’t perfectly balanced; the option is Orwellian speech codes and wrong headed racial policies.

    • Mark Rushing

      Oh, you mean like the ones being pushed on us right now?

    • legal eagle

      Free speech is annoying and makes some people irritable…Gold Bond Powder is probably in order…

      • George Williams

        So true. The Obama administration’s is noted for it’s antagonism towards conservative talk radio, and certain news stations not under their control, as are his party leader. I think it is safe to say that no news station has ever been the subject of such vituperative rants as has Fox. Such a massive vocal effort should make any supporter of free speech pause to consider their sincerity as supporters of the Constitution, especially the 1st Amendment. Some would say that they are un-American in their effort to suppress their opposition’s voice. Mr. Obama and his cronies are so annoyed at free speech that he and his party gave the IRS free rein to hold up reviews of conservative organizations to prevent them from participating in the last presidential election. Moreover, Obama’s czar expressed a desire to relieve talk radio stations of their licenses and turn them over to NPR in the guise of it being in the interest of giving voice to he believe to be the deprived. This czar would have made the government the judge of who should be in possession of the air waves. Imagine that, the government in control of speech that would be critical to its actions. That’s the Democratic Party for you. http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/democrat-candidate-wants-fcc-to-stifle-fox-news/ Of course if the Republicans took control of power, the Democrats would scream bloody murder at this. Gore their ox and you get the ACLU; gore the Republican ox and you get applause. LOL.

      • Integrity

        And that is when they tell you to “GFY”. LOL

  • http://att.net/ patty

    I could not believe the latest of the word bossy being removed from the dictionary/not used as it could hurt a child’s feelings if someone called them bossy. Seems I heard it was Beyoncé, Jennifer Garner, a few other rich celebs crying foul of the use of the word. Whose kids came home crying because someone called them bossy? and probably were bossy, controlling. Why not? I would wager these kids were allowed to be bossy, controlling brats at home. Parents need explain to their kids that our means of discipline when raising them is salt and peppered with love and we will always forgive them and give them a second chance. THE REAL WORLD DOESN’T LOVE THEM, they aren’t going to get second chances nor is some boss going to hug them and tell them it’s ok you are late for work every day or your are don’t treat your co workers with respect AND THIS BOSS WILL TELL YOU ONCE AND IF YOU DON’T PLAY BY MY RULES, YOUR ASS IS OUT THE DOOR. Go home and let mommy and daddy hug you and tell them their boss is bad person and misunderstand you.

  • Becky928

    Is “CRY-BABY” ok?

  • D Parri

    Ok, “ban bossy” if you really think it is necessary. But to be fair, let’s start a “ban banning” campaign to go along with the ‘bossy ban’.

    • kayakbob

      …on a completely different subject: Is Jolly your new Representative down there?

      • D Parri

        Although he’s not my district, he would have gotten my vote. Hopefully, he will be re-elected again in November.

  • Wheels55

    Stewardess – no, it’s flight attendant
    Secretary – no, it’s administrative assistant
    Bossy – no, it’s assertive
    But your jeans still make your butt look fat.

    • D Parri

      Isn’t that a ‘well-rounded derriere’?

  • KStrett

    1. The people who started the campaign to ban the word bossy have way too much time on their hands.

    2. Dictating to people that they cannot use the word bossy is being bossy.

    3. The fundamental flaw in their thinking is being a leader, confident, and assertive is synonymous with being bossy. It is not. A person can been a leader, confident, and assertive without being bossy.

    assertive, confident a
    assertive, confident
    assertive, confident

  • http://att.net/ patty

    @Shane. I agree WAR ON WOMEN IS A JOKE..Yes, all woman should be able to be on the streets late at night or any time of day. (like assuming a car traveling at a high rate of speed is going to stop at the cross walk because the pedestrian has the right of way/Dah! But you don’t go to a bar/club, drink. Possibly too much and then think you can walk home alone in the middle of the night and be safe. Personllay, I think there should be a war on woman who do not use good judgment, logic or common sense when they knowingly set themselves up for these predators just waiting in the shadows to rape and kill them. These Jane Valez Mitchell’s, Nancy Grace’s, OVER THE TOP WOMEN LIBERS should stop preaching to woman they have every right to be out on the streets in the wee hours of the morning/or just late at night coming home tipsy/drunk from bars, jogging, walking, etc. Yes, woman should have every right to be on the streets alone but statistics prove that the streets are no longer safe for them. Why, would these women having their own nightly television shows brain wash naïve women, young girls that they shouldn’t worry about THE WAR ON WOMEN and they have the right to be on the streets late at night, early hours of the morning regardless the danger that lurks/waiting? Stand up for your rights/Stand your ground and end up dead!

    • Ron F

      Patty, I read the opinion piece. It does not use the term “war on women”. It does cite studies as to how the word “bossy” is used. “Most dictionary entries for `bossy’ provide a
      sentence showing its proper use, and nearly all focus on women. Examples range
      from the Oxford Dictionaries’ `bossy, meddling woman’ to Urban Dictionary’s `She
      is bossy, and probably has a pair down there to produce all the testosterone.’ Ngram shows that in 2008 (the most recent year available), the word appeared in
      books four times more often to refer to females than to males.” I am not sure why everyone is so upset about them writing an opinion piece on why they think the word is misused.

      • Sheila Warner

        The piece isn’t about the word being misused–it’s a piece about banning the word. So, women are offended. So what? Women need to put on their big girl pants and get over it. If being called bossy erases their self-esteem, I feel sorry for them.

        • legal eagle

          exactly how do you ban a word?

  • Wheels55

    Are they being bossy by telling us not to use the word bossy? I think so.

    • Mark Rushing

      Certainly seems that way doesn’t it. Of course you have to know the type of women making these statements. The Girl Scout CEO is the one that started the policy of using the proceeds of the cookie sales to promote planned parenthood and other liberal feminist training agendas to warp the minds of our daughters.

  • Shane

    It appears that there is a War on Boys and Men, not a war on women when you consider the stats that Bernie mentioned. This whole War on Women nonsense is just another way for libs to attack Republicans and conservatives. Stossel has a show on this subject coming up soon.

    • Sheila Warner

      And, it minimizes real wars on women. The wars on women that don’t allow them to go to school, to go out in public alone, to be killed for the “honor” of their families, or routine beatings by male relatives. It’s a ridiculous assertion that “bossy” is any real type of attack on women.

  • brent horn

    The odd thing about people who are obsessed with words like “bossy” is that they are actually the ones who are sexist. I think such people are implicitly saying that women can’t handle being insulted, that they are easily discouraged and can not handle criticism. I think such people would be more effective if they taught girls to be tougher and taught them to fight back.

  • forrest

    Women have never had it so good. This is just another cat fight launched by women who have too much free time on their hands but to cause trouble for everyone else. Men are the real victims. We have to listen to all this bleeding heart propaganda they hissss out now days while they turn our country into a bunch of weenies. Fewy!

  • 19don36

    Cheryl and Anna Marie seem to be examples of the word they dislike so much!

  • Jarob54

    My question is this. What was so wrong with the era when woman were woman and rasing a family was an honorable “career.” Well I can answer my own question.
    Today woman view marrige and child rearing as a stigma. So Donna Reed and woman from that era were exploited by their husbands? That’s my take if you listen to the left
    Today woman want to be accepted as equal to men, they say. But reality is, they want to accpeted as superior to men. Don’t belive me just listen to the likes of Nancy Pelosi. She would have you belive that woman can excell in any field, and do it better than any man. Hogwash!
    There are two sexes and they are not the same. I don’t suscribe to the theory that women should be undervalued, or exploited but I want a man to do do the heavy lifting, because I want the job done correctly. So call me a sexist, I’ve been called worse. But men and women are different, and there is not one person around that can say they are the same.

    • Shane

      You misunderstand their motives; these liberal women want women to dominate men. They have equality with men; now they want to rule men.

  • k962

    Great Column Bernie! If women are so traumitized about being called “Bossy” , they don’t possess the quality of leadership anyway! Don’t like the heat, stay out of the kitchen!

  • EddieD_Boston

    Feminism has morphed into a pathetic joke. You have your cake. Eat it. But I’ll tell you you’re getting fat when you ask.

  • Ksp48

    Bernie, You miss the point. This is a pre-emptive attack in support of Hillary’s candidacy. Nothing remotely more, or less. Just as any criticism of Obama or his policies is labeled “racist” so any mention of Hillary’s myriad of baggage (Benghazi, What difference does it make, the reset with Putin, or any of the other issues that always seem to follow Hillary) will be labeled as sexism or misogyny. Just as anything remotely to do with women is now a “war on women”, so too will any negative comment directed at Hillary be written off as “bossy”.

    • 19don36

      I think you are quite right. Women seem to want the same rules as men, until they screw up. Then they often don’t want to be held accountable and come up with “What difference does it make?” Ask the parents of the four MEN who died!

      • legal eagle

        Yeah and don’t forget all those women that suffer from penis envy….LOL

    • Josh

      No doubt that the victim card is going to be played. Everyone plays it in every group; it’s just that the mainstream focuses up and gives credence to certain kinds of whiners. But as far as this thing being preemptive for Clinton’s benefit, it’s been around for quite some time. This newer installment of feminism might not be on the right’s political radar, but it’s something that’s been seeping into the fabric of universities and the skeptic community for years now.

      It is something more — much more. It’s part of the first-world, third-wave feminism nonsense that has its teeth in everything tasty. And while many on the right view this as something liberal in nature, it’s more dastardly than that. These nutters infringe on the left more than they infringe on anyone else. It’s a disease that’s taking over the left by necessity before moving to the rest of the nation.

      • Ksp48

        I continue to believe that this particular essay is a pre-emptive attack in support of Hillary Clinton’s candidacy. Also, I personally have never seen the word “bossy” used by anyone except so called feminists decrying its use. Whatever criticism you may have of Hillary’s beliefs, policies or actions will be reduced to a claim that you are saying she’s “bossy” and are therefore a sexist misogynist.

        • Josh

          We all believe what we believe. Though if it’s really a preemptive attempt to set a smoother stage for Hillary criticisms, they certainly got a big jump on it. They (being the new feminists) have been doing this for a long, long time. “Bossy” might be new news to Bernie and some of his readers. In my neck of the woods, this particular story is old hat and such things have been happening for many years.

    • Wheels55

      Hillary’s biggest problem is that she worked for Obama. Had she not done so, she could be bossy and still respected. She ran away from Benghazi because the Obama administration told her to. Now she has to deal with it.

  • Buzzeroo

    Perhaps a more formal description of bossy be-eye- itches would be more acceptable to kvetches like those two. After all, when a girl is tall we call them tall not giant. And when they’re short we usually refrain from calling them shrimpy. So from now on–no more ‘bossy’. Instead it will be ‘DICTATORIAL’

  • beniyyar

    Women are always offended about something men do, it’s apparently hard wired into them.

  • lark2

    These women are OFFENDED. My cup runneth over with people who claim to be offended about something that happens to be the offense du jour. These people are full of crap and they claim to be OFFENDED because of the attention they receive when they speak up. The credibility of this particular “offended class” has resulted in the wusification of young boys and the decline of manhood. I am sick of it! I can’t effect what anyone else thinks but, every time people like this speak … my bullcrap meter goes off.

  • Steve Neal

    Appropriate assertiveness, and confidence, do not equate to being
    bossy. The skill of the leader determines effectiveness, not someone’s gender. Seems as though the quotes from the 2 offended ones may illuminate a bias on their part that could be interesting fodder for discussion.

  • Drew Page

    Your take on what overly aggressive male bosses are called made me smile. I’m sure I’m not the only person who feels that way.

    We have countless female CEOs of Fortune 500 companies, entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, Senators, and successful business owners. I would gladly trade W2s with Oprah, Beyoncé, Sandra Bullock, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein and scads of other women, bossy or otherwise. If I had their money, I’d burn mine.

    Women are considered a “protected class” by the government, as are minorities and gays. It seems the only people not given “protected class” status are straight, white males. I guess we are the reason that everyone else must be put into protected classes to shield them from our abusive and brutish nature. I can’t help but wonder if these “victims of conventional bias” would rather see their male infants castrated at birth, rather than circumcised.

    • legal eagle

      Another member of the Angry Grandpa Club (“AGC”)… these poor oppressed older men…Maybe you should go to Washington and burn your Medicare card in front of the White House…I’m sure you could get Ted Cruz to speak to the group…

      • Jeff Webb

        >>Maybe you should go to Washington and burn your Medicare card in front of the White House.<<

        You must not have heard the news. Obama's latest executive order forbids all protest-burnings, the only exceptions being publications critical of non-liberals and the American flag.

    • Drew Page

      Where does the “Angry Grandpa Club” come in? And who said anything about oppressed older men? I’m for equal rights for everyone, eagle. I’m not the one who invented all the “protected classes” of Americans. The way I see it, the only ones not in a protected class today are straight, white men, regardless of their age. If there are things that people should be protected from, shouldn’t everyone be protected from these things?

      Unlike certain political groups, I don’t put people into various categories and classify them as “victims”, who are exploited by others and then tell these “victims” that I am the answer to their problems. I don’t ask them to vote for me so that I may deliver them from their “victimhood”.
      Bernie’s article was about a few successful women wanting the word “bossy” to be banned when referring to women.

  • SkyCitizen

    Spot on again Bernie! Kvetching is this primary cause of men losing their hearing in their early forties,

  • 633

    Actually telling the population we have to ban the word bossy could be interpreted as being-I beg your pardon-bossy.

  • batorsin

    I’m with you on this, Bernie. Don’t these so-called journalists have more to bring to the public than this idiotic “bossy” business? It is evident they are in agreement with Moochelle! She should be doing something worthwhile for this country as other First Ladies with dignity have done. Yes, Moochelle is ‘bossy’. But she can’t control her husband’s roving eye. If anyone votes for Hillary because she is a woman, shame on them. Just like the blacks who voted for Obama because he is black. Shame on them! Where did Obama take us? We want out country back and the Dems are not qualified to do it!!!

    • legal eagle

      I hate to tell you his but it’s not “your” country….it’s everybody’s even haters like yourself…

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        I’m surprised to see you say that, Legal. After all, you’ve been insisting for months that we live in Barack Obama’s country and that we’re just supposed to sit on our hands and enjoy the ride.

      • George Williams

        Haters? You’re the one who hates old white men, even though it was old white men who established this country and the Constitution that you allegedly swore to uphold as a lawyer. Individuals are part of the set “everyone”. By your measure it is wouldn’t be “your” country either. LOL! LOL! LOL! Makes a fool of himself again. He has as much a right to claim this country as his own, as you do. You talk as though you are a child.

        • legal eagle

          Crawl back into your basement and stop bothering everyone with your hateful and nonsensical rants…

    • Ron F

      They aren’t journalists. It was not a news story, it was an op ed piece by two successful business women giving an opinion as everyone here is doing. And if it was not worth bringing to the public, why is there such a vitriolic response to the piece?

  • Skip In VA

    When I was a little boy growing up in the hills of West Virginia we had a cow and we called her “Bossy”. No reason that I know of that we called her that but I remember she was docile and gave us milk on a regular basis. Is there more to this current flap over a word than meets the eye?

  • Sam

    Well said. I keep wondering why it is that women need so much extra help with everything. It seems as though every issue that concerns people in general has a organization to help women with their special needs. They are 51% of the population. Why can’t they just compete on a level playing field with everyone else? They’re not a minority, yet they are often treated as such.

  • jazzdrums

    blame hillary for obama being president..she could have stood in the way of his having keynote speech at dnc in 2004..so it is said.

  • http://batman-news.com 1940voter

    Geez lets ban liberals and progressives then look how happy the world will be.

    • Drew Page

      I don’t know about the rest of the world, but I for one would be ecstatic.

      • http://batman-news.com 1940voter

        We would have surplus in gov’t ——————————————–

      • legal eagle

        The only thing that will make you ecstatic is if the U.S. invaded the Ukraine…

        • Drew Page

          Not true, eagle. I learned the horrors of war at age 19 in the central highlands of Vietnam. I don’t want to see one country invade another ever again, including the U.S.
          When the Twin Towers were destroyed on 9/11 and thousands of innocent civilians were murdered I will admit that I wanted us to hit back and destroy those that murdered our civilians. I did not want to engage in an endless war that the U.S. was unwilling to win. I had my share of that and I wouldn’t wish it on any American.

          • legal eagle

            So you were against the latest war of choice known as Operation Iraqi Freedom?

          • Drew Page

            As a matter of fact I was against the second incursion into Iraq. War itself is the enemy.

    • legal eagle

      Lets ban old white guys from watching porn on their computers….LOL

      • http://batman-news.com 1940voter

        Me thinks you have a problem ——————————————–

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        Is that what happened to you, Legal? Is that why you come to this website and… well, I’d rather not say.

        • legal eagle

          Then don’t say it….LOL

  • jonshepp

    One of the best you’ve written, Bernard.

    You were spot on with the tons of back-up details while being kind not to mention that the Girl Scouts, according to Breitbart, have hired lesbian, Krista Kokjohn-Poehler, . . . wait for it . . . as chief ‘Girl Experience Officer,’ (whatever that means), to role model young member girls across the country.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/26/Girl-Scouts-Hire-Lesbian-as-Chief-Girl%20Experience-Officer

    It may be why many American mother’s across the U.S. have moved their girls to a newer formed organization titled, ‘Heritage Girls,’ which is not “bossy” in any sexual orientation demands. Started in 1995, it’s mission statement today is “to building women of integrity through service to God, family, community and country.” No comment in there about the bossy women who changed the direction of the original Girl Scouts to serve its new politically correct and progressive liberal master.

    https://www.ahgonline.org/

    • legal eagle

      Breitbart is physically dead…you appear to be brain dead..

      • jonshepp

        My father, with many other Americans, fought fascists in WWII. It looks like a few got away and multipied.

        • legal eagle

          Not nice to talk about your mother like that….

          • jonshepp

            Don’t quit your day job. If you don’t have one, I think I’ve discovered your problem.

            -30-

  • cantonst

    Great article!

  • savage24

    I don’t think this is an attack on the presumption of bossy women as it is an attack on the dictionary. Liberals want to ban all the words or actions why do not agree with. For all their assumed belief in diversity they only believe it if it agrees with their ideology. Tyranny is more to their liking, you believe like the tyrant or you are gone. Small minds never grow in stature, only in myths.

  • rainracer

    You can get rid of “bossy” for women or girls. But men/boys still will not want to date them. That is another basic fact.

  • cmm912

    This whole #BanBossy business has me pissed-off for a number of reasons.

    1) The very act of BANNING people from using a particular word is in and of itself BOSSY!
    2) Is it just me or is it always a Liberal who comes up with an idea to BAN words (terrorist, war on terror, radical Islamist) from our everyday lives? (And please don’t tell me that Condi Rice is in the commercial and she’s not a Liberal, because she is hardly a Conservative. Moderate-Liberal at best.).
    3) If a female “leader” is so thin-skinned that the word “Bossy” offends her, then she is not much of a leader.
    4) And if the discussion is really about children being “scarred for life” after being called Bossy, then TURN THE TABLES at an EARLY age. TEACH little girls that when people call them Bossy it is really a compliment, implying they have potential leadership skills. DONE!
    5) What kind of societies go around BANNING words (SPEECH) – TOTALITARIAN societies.

    What’s next Ms. Chavez and Ms. Sandburg, burning books?

    • Drew Page

      Typical liberal behavior. If a conservative doesn’t like something they avoid it. If a liberal doesn’t like something they insist on a law banning it.

      • cmm912

        BINGO!

  • Seattle Sam

    Pardon me, but isn’t it considered “bossy” to try to tell everyone else what words they can use?

  • Rich Truesdell

    If you look up the word narcissist in the dictionary, you’ll find a photo of Sheryl Sandberg. She’s always trying to make the story about “her.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/06/sheryl-sandberg-asiana-plane-crash_n_3555529.html

    • Rich Truesdell

      Here’s all you need to know about Sheryl Sandberg. This is almost too funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

      http://twitchy.com/2013/07/06/media-alert-facebook-exec-sheryl-sandberg-not-on-plane-that-crashed/

      • legal eagle

        Jealous of Sheryl Sandberg because she’s a billionaire or do you just hate Jewish women?

        • Rich Truesdell

          Hey legal eagle, that’s a pretty funny retort.

          Just read the comments, especially from the media, in the second link, the Huffington Post article. She was widely criticized in making the plane crash tragedy about her. It was totally unnecessary. And it wasn’t the first time she had done something similar.

          This whole “bossy” thing is about her too and selling her agenda of women, Jewish or otherwise, being downtrodden. She’s the poster child for a successful woman, it’s just too bad that she’s become a complete narcissist in doing so. It’s not necessary. All she needs to do is let her accomplishments — which are many — speak for themselves.

          BTW, two of my former Jewish girlfriends, when I showed them your comment, thought it was hilarious.

        • Rich Truesdell

          Hey legal eagle, that’s a pretty funny retort.

          Just read the comments, especially from the media, in the second link, the Huffington Post article. She was widely criticized in making the plane crash tragedy about her. It was totally unnecessary. And it wasn’t the first time she had done something similar.

          This whole “bossy” thing is about her too and selling her agenda of women, Jewish or otherwise, being downtrodden. She’s the poster child for a successful woman, it’s just too bad that she’s become a complete
          narcissist in doing so. It’s not necessary. All she needs to do is let her accomplishments — which are many — speak for themselves.

          BTW, two of my former Jewish girlfriends, when I showed them your comment, thought it was hilarious.

          • legal eagle

            Thank goodness for all concerned they didn’t marry you…LOL
            The only one who made this about Sandburg was the media…I don’t know about you but I know plenty of women and men who believe everything is about them…Sandberg just happens to be a billionaire and somewhat of a celebrity…

          • Rich Truesdell

            Legal Eagle, in looking through the thread here I see that you are a troll, and there’s nothing wrong with that. You’re a grenade thrower. I understand that.

            But not knowing me, and implying that I am in some way prejudiced against Jewish women, was completely uncalled for. I’m betting most people here will agree with me, not you. All you did was showed what a complete and utter jack ass you are.

            Sheryl Sandberg, whether she a billionaire or not, is the definition of a narcissist. Like dating and having Jewish women as close personal friends, I have friends who are very wealthy and I don’t hold their success against them. They let their success speak for itself. They never Tweet about it or post about their wealth on their Facebook page. That’s why you and Ms. Sandberg probably get along well with each other.

            And unlike you, I don’t post autonomously. I post under my real name, not hide behind a screen name like you do.

          • legal eagle

            The Jewish remark was meant to be sarcastic..Sorry if you took it the wrong way…I have no idea what your problem is with Sheryl Sandberg other than the fact that she’s a Democrat but whatever bug you have up your butt about her, which appears to be twitter related, diminishes your credibility for posting something so ridiculous.
            I was in the World Trade Center on Sept 10, 2001…I mentioned it to a lot of people…you call that narcissistic?
            So you have friends that are wealthy and ex girlfriends that are Jewish? What’s next Muslim employees or Mexican gardeners?

          • Rich Truesdell

            Legal Eagle, until you stop posting anonymously, and start posting with your real name, like I do, you can just shut the eff up. You’re a d-bag of the first order, constantly injecting racism and prejudice in your posts in an unsuccessful attempt to goad me into coming down to your level. Everyone reading this exchange knows the score.

            My problem with Ms. Sandberg is that she’s a self-centered narcissist. It’s always all about her, injecting herself into stories she has no business doing. And this “bossy” agenda is just an extension of her behavior in the immediate aftermath of the San Francisco crash tragedy. That she’s a celebrity billionaire only makes it more egregious.

          • legal eagle

            Too bad you didn’t stay in France…Then you could tell us how some of your best friends are French hookers…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            He poses a pretty good question, though. We all put our names behind our writing. You don’t. Is it because you’re too ashamed to take responsibility for what you write here? I certainly couldn’t blame you for that.

  • docww

    I’m sure Anne Marie Chavez does a fine job of running the Girl Scouts and perhaps she even does it without being bossy, but in my opinion there are more important issues to deal with. As a physician I spend much of my time dealing with our current epidemic of metabolic syndrome, obesity and type 2 diabetes. The Girl Scouts fund their organization mainly by selling toxic sugary cookies to the public. I suspect our collective health would be better if they made their money selling crack cocaine!

    So I suggest that Ms. Chavez becomes a little bossier and pushes her organization to fund itself in a more socially responsible manner.

    • rgcomega

      You may be onto something Doc. Girl Scouts are having a cookie boom this year selling their sugary little goodies outside all of the weed stores in Colorado. Follow the money!

    • legal eagle

      Are you suggesting that the Girl Scouts sell crack instead of cookies? LOL

      • docww

        legal eagle—Of course not. The Girl Scouts are the number
        3 cookie company in this country. We are in the middle of a massive epidemic of obesity and type 2 diabetes, diseases that are much more costly than illegal drug use. Connect the dots—we would be much better off if they got out of the
        cookie business.

        • legal eagle

          The problem in America is kids eating too much junk food, not girl scout cookies….we would be better off if more kids joined the Scouts…

          • docww

            legal eagle–The Girl Scouts have a great program–except for their cookies. Girl Scout cookies are the epitome of junk food. I make a living dealing with people who consume this type of food–not a pretty picture. Like a drug lord, the Girl Scouts got hooked on something evil because it gave them tons of money.

            I have a condo in Mazatlan next to the building where the drug kingpin Guzman was captured last week. Money has great power in the face of negativity and evil. This also appears to be true for the Girl Scouts. Ditch the cookies and we’re good.

          • legal eagle

            So don’t eat the cookies….If they stopped selling them you’d be claiming government overreach…LOL

          • docww

            I don’t want the government to be involved. My hope is that the Girl Scouts would take responsibility for their own actions and do the right thing–stop selling cookies.

          • legal eagle

            Maybe you can run for the Republican nomination for POTUS using the slogan “Ditch the Cookies”?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>we would be better off if more kids joined the Scouts…

            Hey, we finally agree on something! Children learning how to be self-sufficient leaders… not entitled brats without ambition.

          • Jeff Webb

            No surprise that LE picked the organization that is well on its way to utter moral decay. If my daughter expresses any interest in that sort of activity, I’m looking into alternatives, such as American Heritage Girls.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I’m actually a big fan of the Boy Scouts. My son’s a cub scout and I’m pretty involved with it.

          • Jeff Webb

            It’s the Girl Scouts that’s really becoming worrisome. I’m not ruling out the BSA, as long as they don’t go down the same path, or give in to liberal bullies at every turn.

  • Jenna

    Oh please. Women pick and choose their battles. The whole pay gap argument is a lie. And then, women aren’t capable of paying for their own birth control…which is the cheapest RX next to Advil. Hey, girls and women, grow up, move out of the house quit whining about what people say, and take care of yourselves. Period.

  • TRexLex

    1984 and Animal Farm have arrived. “Four legs good; two legs bad.” The Word Police have taken over. The problem is that the woman’s movement has achieved all its goals and has nothing substantive to fight for. Bossy is a perjorative word whether applied to women or men. True leaders are not “bossy.” We have a problem of “boys” in our society; they are not valued and by all measures are doing poorly That does not bode well for our future as a country. Sandberg needs to focus on making a lot of money for her company and raising the stock price. I won’t be buying any Girl Scout cookies anytime soon.

  • Dennis

    I would put one caveat on this. What I want to know is this: If we agree to this, to ban calling little girls who will grow up to be in charge of pretty much everything when it comes to relationships with men, if we give you this can we put an end to it? Can we finally stop worrying about the most trivially sensitive tripe that feminist victim-hustlers come up with? Is this really what Betty Friedan had in mind? Whiny victims? Please save us from the professional, and self-appointed, do-gooders of the world. I can’t take much more of this trivial nonsense when this country has serious problems.

  • http://solo4357.blogspot.com/ Solo4357

    Couldn’t agree with you more. The old saying is still true: Women have choices and men have responsibilities.

    • gold7406

      I’m old and I never of that before, but it’s excellent.

      • legal eagle

        Maybe you’ve not heard the nonsensical cliché, posted by Solo4357, because you are not a member of the Angry Grandpa Club?

    • legal eagle

      Spoken like a charter member of the Angry Grandpa Club…..The burdens of being a guy….LOL

  • rbblum

    ‘Social engineering’ occurs on many fronts at various levels. This one just happens to be ‘grammatical’.

  • Renee

    I’m a woman, and I agree with Goldberg. While it’s still a little more culturally acceptable for men to take the lead in various things, men can definitely be too “assertive,” and they get plenty of pushback on it — from men and women. Women are doing quite well in modern-day America, as Goldberg pointed out, and it’s absurd to Chavez and Sandberg to carry on like they’re Betty Friedan.

  • Jeff

    Let’s just ban all adjectives. From now on, no one is good or bad, bossy or soft, they’re just men or women. Oh wait, we need to be gender neutral too? Whatever happened to, “Stick and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me?” Where will it end?

  • legal eagle

    Looks like Bernie is having an Archie Bunker moment. This is the old rhetoric from 1982 spouted by the Republicans against the proposed Equal Rights Amendment…Another old white guy longing for the “good old days”?

    • Renee

      Clearly you managed to ignore all those facts Goldberg cites about women earning most of the college degrees in this country, outperforming males on academic tests, etc. Further, any “pay gap” disappears when hours worked and experience are factored in — that’s been in various news reports for years now, but hey, don’t let facts get in your way of caricaturing an “old white guy.” Why deal with arguments when you can just smear?

      • legal eagle

        So “various news reports” are the source of your assertion? I don’t think news reports qualify as an offer of proof, except on Fox News, which tends to make up it’s own facts.

        • Renee

          Now I wonder if you are being breathtakingly dishonest here, or embarrassingly lazy. Here are just a few news reports on the truth of the “wage gap” between men and women in the US — from such right-wing rags as The Washington Post, Slate and The Daily Beast:

          http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/gender_pay_gap_the_familiar_line_that_women_make_77_cents_to_every_man_s.html

          http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-white-houses-use-of-data-on-the-gender-wage-gap/2012/06/04/gJQAYH6nEV_blog.html

          Obviously, someone interested in and open to the facts could have checked this out himself — I got these in about 2 minutes worth of Googling, and I’d seen them around before. But when you’re nothing but a partisan hack for whom the ends justify the means, well, then making claims that will appeal to emotion and thinking you can discredit the opposition simply by saying, “Fox News,” why bother dealing with facts?

          • legal eagle

            You can “spin” the numbers any way you want…From a legal viewpoint, equal pay means no difference in pay when a male and female do the same job and have the same amount of experience….I do believe that, as an example, teachers with the same experience and educational credentials, in the same school district, should get paid the same regardless of their gender….Have a problem with that or do you want to argue more hypotheticals?

          • Jeff Webb

            LE, you avoided the point: the left’s “wage gap” platform IS spin. Did you click any of the links Renee posted?

        • Jeff Webb

          Are you going to blame FNC for female employees in the Obama WH making less than their male counterparts?

          • legal eagle

            Have any facts/specifics or is this another Fox News talking point?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2128513/Women-paid-significantly-Obama-White-House-male-counterparts.html

            Go ahead and accuse Sean Hannity of being behind this. You know you want to.

          • legal eagle

            The metric is equal pay for doing an equal job…Of course , that is beyond your comprehension because you are willfully ignorant when it comes to facts… A Judge would laugh at this type of irrelevant stat…Do you actually know what “mean” salary means?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>The metric is equal pay for doing an equal job

            Ah… So you’re saying that the Obama administration doesn’t offer equal jobs to women. Good to know. The men in the administration get the positions that pay the most money. Sounds like a… wait for it… WAR ON WOMEN if you ask me… You know, the work of a bunch of old, bitter, white guys who are off their meds and wishing for the “good old days.” Clearly, they’re you’re type of people, legal.

            >>Of course , that is beyond your comprehension because you are willfully ignorant when it comes to facts

            …Says the guy who claims that asking a question is a fact, and that a lie doesn’t exist. lol. Any more drunken Yoda wisdom you’d like pass down to me?

          • legal eagle

            Of course you didn’t respond to what the term “mean salary” means because you would have had to deal in facts instead of hyperbole… something you like to avoid..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I was a business major, legal. Of course I know what a mean salary is. I think it’s cute, though, that you think you’re really smart for also knowing what it means. lol.

            By the way, I’d love to hear these elusive facts that you never offer, but always claim I’m ignoring.

          • legal eagle

            Well if you know what mean salary means what relevance does that article about the “mean’ White House salary have to do with equal pay? Perhaps you can explain that to me?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            The relevance is that our president makes no such distinction when he references his bogus numbers on the pay discrepancies between men and women in this country. He has chosen to run on an “issue” that you, yourself, are adamantly saying does not exist when it comes to staff hiring at the White House.

            What that article does is hold the Obama administration to the same standard that the administration is holding the private sector to. Yet, you defend what Obama is doing and dismiss what the writer of the article is doing.

            I’m not at all surprised, of course. If it wasn’t for double standards, you wouldn’t have any standards at all.

          • legal eagle

            Of course you didn’t respond to what the term “mean salary” means because you would have had to deal in facts instead of hyperbole….

      • legal eagle

        The legal issue is equal pay for equal work ie. union wages….There is no legal issue regarding hours worked and experience. The issue has been misrepresented for years by right wing media types like O’Reilly….Why exactly is this an issue? Are you against basic fairness or do you have a common sense deficiency?

        • Renee

          Actually the issues are number of hours worked, seniority, time out of the workforce, etc. Again, these facts have been reported on previously — i gave you just a few links above. Are you against basic fairness when it comes to things that contradict your ideology, or do you have a learning disability?

    • jimg

      You are just trying to impress the women around you with how liberal you are

      • legal eagle

        If being for equal rights for women impresses them then I plead guilty…LOL

        • jimg

          lol… the smart women see right through guys like you and you don’t even know it!

    • Charlie

      It’s official. Legal Eagle has set a new world record with a Bernie disagreement/agreement ratio of 3000 to 0.
      What’s even more astounding is that he has used a pejorative 7,645 times while in the process of disagreeing. I’d say that makes Legal Eagle a pretty disagreeable guy!

      • legal eagle

        I sometimes agree with Bernie as I did regarding gay rights…..I don’t even know 7,645 pejoratives but, as I grew up in New York, I would guess my upper limit is about 5,000…..LOL

    • rgcomega

      legal eagle, huh? Got time for 10,000 attorney jokes, you pompous progressive turkey! 10-1 you’re one of those babies who went running to mommy every time you didn’t get your way. Can’t stand it when someone doesn’t agree with you so you call them names. Grow up!

      • legal eagle

        I’m always looking for good attorney jokes…very helpful when giving speeches…

    • Jeff Webb

      >>Looks like Bernie is having an Archie Bunker moment. This is the old
      rhetoric from 1982 spouted by the Republicans against the proposed Equal
      Rights Amendment…Another old white guy longing for the “good old
      days”?<<

      You're just a left wing bitter old white cultist who ran out of meds in the '60s.

      • sjangers

        Be fair, Jeff. It was probably very stressful. The Sixties was no time to be running out of meds.

        • Jeff Webb

          But modeling glue was more potent…

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Legal, Aren’t you the old white guy who said he wished we could return the 1960s? Stop projecting your insecurities onto others. It’s embarrassing.

      • grainbirds

        Who would we return them to? Would we get our money back? Or just credit?

  • nepakandy

    To quote Tom Hanks (League of Their Own), “There’s no crying in baseball!” So, if you’re going to play with the boys, put on your big girl pants and go for it, and stop crying! (from a girl of advanced years who played sandlot ball and didn’t get any special treatment from her brother and his friends)

  • sjangers

    The good news for us old, white men is that in about fifty years- after progressives have succeeded in redistributing most of our wealth and telling us how we may and may not live our lives, including what words we can and cannot say- we may qualify as an oppressed minority ourselves. Then, assuming there are enough of us left to constitute a desirable voting demographic, perhaps we can count on the Democrats to champion our cause, forcing the rest of society to stop oppressing us, and perhaps even demand a few cool bennies to which no other reasonable people suspect that they might even be entitled.

    • legal eagle

      In about fifty years you’ll be gone with the rest of the angry old haters. Hopefully your children and grandchildren will not be whining about the good old days like you do..

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        … says the guy who wants the 60’s back. lol.

        • sjangers

          John, here’s a semi-serious question for your and Jeff.

          Eagle has been around here for several months now. I haven’t followed his comments as closely as I should for analysis, but I’ve observed some patterns as well as some interesting inconsistency in his posts.

          Most of the time he’s posting boilerplate trollisms that look like they might be scripted by a low-level staffer at the DNC, but on occasion he’ll actually engage in somewhat reasonable and intelligent exchanges. Then there are times when I or another poster will engage with him and I get the impression he has no idea who we are or what he’s said in very recent exchanges with us. He also posts a lot and he’s apt to post at almost any time of day.

          So I have five theories, that aren’t entirely exclusive of each other, about who Eagle is. I was wondering what you think about them and if you have any other ideas.

          1. Eagle is more or less who he says he is and is just trying to engage in so many threads that he sometimes loses track of where he is and what he’s doing.

          2. He’s more than one person; possibly a small group of students from a freshman poli sci class.

          3. Artificial intelligence; perhaps a beta version.

          4. He’s escaped from a psychiatric facility.

          5. He’s the secret love child of Anthony Weiner and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

          What do you think?

          • Jeff Webb

            1. The most likely possibility.
            2. Maybe 2nd-most likely, if the students were 8th grade remedial social studies.
            3. Second word rules it out.
            4. Highly improbable–those orderlies run like greyhounds and track like bloodhounds (so I’ve heard).
            5. Completely impossible–nobody would tap that.

          • sjangers

            Thanks, guys. I appreciate the input. But, Jeff, we’re talking Carlos Danger here.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. Love it.

            I’ve noticed the same things you have, and to be honest, I’ve just been attributing it to a combination of typical, hyper-partisan troll tactics and some chronic, Memento-like, short-term memory loss.

      • sjangers

        The comment was didactic, Eagle. Try not to be so literal in your interpretation. You’re profession might be a bit limiting in that regard, but I’m sure you can stretch at least a bit.

      • Jeff Webb

        Wow. Still stuck on that unimaginative crap?

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          He was told in his latest DNC email to push it harder.

        • legal eagle

          Thanks for sharing your moronic responses to everything I write….You follow me around like a puppy dog..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Thanks for sharing your moronic responses to everything I write.

            Now you know how WE feel.

            >>You follow me around like a puppy dog..

            Close. We follow you around with a pooper-scooper.

          • Jeff Webb

            Said the guy who follows Bernie’s columns like a puppy dog and posts moronic comments.
            If you projected anymore than you do, somebody would be operating you at a movie theater.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Both my son and daughter entered the labor force about the same time. During their first ten years of employment my daughter was absent 4 times for maternity. My son on the other hand, who also has 4 children) was absent zero times for maternity. (the heartless beast) Meaning my son now has some 4 years seniority on my daughter. While they currently both earn similar rates of pay, it should come as no surprise, that over time, career minded men, are typically able to gain more experience, (thus pay), during those years when the most valuable work experience is gained.

  • gold7406

    Bernie is spot-on. Bossy should be viewed as a badge of honor by women. That’s how you break a glass ceiling, and think outside the box like a pioneer or vanguard. Words may hurt, but having a coddled existence would create more problems later in life, by not being able to handle criticism or someone challenging your authority. “Everyone gets a trophy” mentality leads to mediocrity.
    If we still have the draft, feminism as we know it would not exist. I can not see women ever being drafted in this country. There would be protests by NOW, we want to stay home, cook, raise kids, and stand by our men.

  • Josh

    No, Bernie, no! Please, don’t put me through this! I’m too weak-willed to look away, I’ll admit it.

    This nonsense has been plaguing skeptic communities for years. And I don’t mean a little nuisance, like you hear so many people having a grump-fest over religious “freedoms” and such. I mean completely changing the landscape, evaporating freedoms, and forcing a Borg-like uniformity and compliance to all things feminist.

    This is first-world, third-wave feminism at its finest, and it doesn’t get any more laughable.

    However, it also doesn’t get any more popular in terms of all the many male Marxists running around enforcing the will of their women so that they can keep seeing vagina in their lives.

    To these women, words like “bossy” and putting big cartoon boobs on a female video game character is the patriarchy at work. It’s the worst thing to ever happen. Acid being thrown in women’s faces abroad? Women who can’t drive and are forced to wear Halloween costumes? Oh, that’s just their culture; no big deal. But you dare call a woman bossy? Well, that’s just the patriarchal attitudes of a rape culture that dominates the lives of women and seeks to subjugate an entire gender.

    This is literally true; you couldn’t make it up: By these first-world, third-wave feminist standards, if you ask a girl out for a drink and she doesn’t want you to, you have just committed a form of rape.

    This is the world I inhabit socially. Not by choice per se; it’s more of a necessity if I don’t want to be a recluse. The polarized ends of the spectrum won’t have me. And if you’re a skeptic, you have nowhere to go where these first-world whiners haven’t already infiltrated and changed the game.

  • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

    I’ll stop calling my 7-year-old daughter bossy when she stops bossing other kids around.

    Just heard about this movement today. All I can say is… Yikes.

    • Tim Ned

      Tell me about it. I have four daughters.

    • grainbirds

      I’ve never thought of it as a gender-specific word. I’d be more inclined to use the word “controlling,” which I don’t see as gender-specific either.

  • Ricky Giove

    Canard or no canard, @BernardGoldberg speaks the truth.

  • jackietreehorn3

    as hilary gets closer to running you will continually hear about the war on women. i would suggest American women take a look at other countries such as China, Russia, any country in the middle east, a majority of the continent of Africa, as well as Central and South America. See how women are treated virtually around the globe compared to the United States. I think they would be suprised at how great it is where they live. And if they still disagree have them ask a married man going thru a divorce how fair custody, child support and alimony laws are. Women in America can be whatever they choose. And Thats a good thing. Complaining about about a word like Bossy makes them look silly.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      One has to wonder if whoever masterminds these movements is indeed shopping for more reactionary material to use as evidence of there being a “War on Women.” There’s an election coming up after all. It’s hard to believe that anyone actually sits around worrying about girls being called “bossy.”

      • jackietreehorn3

        Sadly, I wouldn’t put it past the feminist movement to seriously be concerned about this word. They’re motto should be “we want to be treated equal but special.”

        • Josh

          If Bernie were to look into this subject, I have a suspicion that mainstream politics would take a backseat to the overabundance of material he’d find pertaining to these first-world feminists and their minor gripes that all have serious real-world implications at universities, conferences, the workplace, and even home lives.

          These are a special breed of feminist. This is the American re-reincarnation of the historic feminism that did fight for change. This is the version where women just whine. Ironically, one of the things they whine about the most is the “damsel in distress” cliche that they supposedly hate being tagged with, yet any headway they’ve made with this particular leg of the movement has only been achieved due to heroes, not heroines, who answer the distress calls and subsequently help to enforce what these women demand.

          It’s incredibly strange, inherently flawed, and exceedingly deep. This “bossy” thing Bernie touched on has been an ongoing cause celebre for many years over on my side of the fence, even longer in intellectual circles (I should put some quotes around that, since I’m doing air quotes when I read it), and it’s coming to the mainstream nicely disguised as anti-religion or anti-traditionalism. Only rarely does it break out and expose itself, which does then catch the attentions of the Bernard Goldbergs of the world. But just be sure that it’s a real thing that has already snowballed to the size of a glacier.

          This is just the tip of it.

          Special preference doesn’t even begin to cover what they want.

          • legal eagle

            Women whine and men don’t?

          • Josh

            Well, if you’re a man, then I find it rather obvious that men whine. (But I do know how progressive liberals long for more pronouns in English, so if you don’t consider yourself a man and would instead like another label, I’d comply without fuss.)

            Men whine: The modern feminist calls them “MRAs” (men’s rights advocates) and laughs.

            Women whine: Little liberals climb over themselves to play the hero so that they can rub on some Julie instead of Jergens.

      • legal eagle

        What “movement” are you referring to? Is there an organized movement or is this just Metathesiophobia (fear of change) which has been a Republican platform since the 1950’s…

        • Jeff Webb

          >>Is there an organized movement or is this just Metathesiophobia (fear
          of change) which has been a Republican platform since the 1950’s…<<

          Oh, you think you can dress up your tattered "good old days" cliche and look like you're posting something original?

          Dude, we just want the Constitution to be followed, no matter how much that scares the socks off of you.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          The movement that is behind the celebrity video that is pushing for a “ban” on the word “bossy”: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/english/music/news-and-interviews/Beyonce-urges-ban-on-bossy-word/articleshow/31831162.cms

          Believe it or not, this silliness isn’t limited to a single op-ed.

    • grainbirds

      Don’t lump us all together. I’m a woman who sees the “GOP War on Women” as an attempt to manipulate women and therefore as demeaning and towards us and as a cold and cynical view of our demographic as so many sheep for votes, and who is quite well aware of the ludicrous nature of it when compared with the treatment of women in some other parts of the world.