The jury's still out. As usual, the war in Iran will be judged by the end results. If things turn out spiffy, President Trump will be hailed as a mighty leader with keen foresight and a spine of steel. If things go south, President Trump will be seen by most as reckless and feckless, despite his effort to shift the blame or to sugar-coat it..
If the war effort goes south, the left wing Dems will invoke Vietnam & Iraq (but not Biden’s pullout from Afghanistan), and call Trump a fascist murderous dictator who interferes in the politics of sovereign nations. The MAGA right will blame Democrats.
If it’s a success, then the MAGA right will have another successful notch in their belts, and will use it for ads during the mid-terms to show how the liberal Dems supported the Anti-Gay, Women’s Rights & human rights. The left will say it’s Trump’s attempt to “wag the dog” to distract from the Epstein files
What a freekin' mess. Whether it was the right or wrong thing to do seems moot now. The stakes are incredibly high, and this has the very real possibility of spiraling out of control. Adding Trump's penchant for lying and making grandiose and stupid comments does not likely help.
John, I support taking it to the Iranian regime as well, and I certainly will not shed any tears over the Supreme Leader's demise.
My concern, however, is what exactly is the administration's endgame in Iran? Is it regime change? Is it to destroy their nuclear program once and for all? Is it to destroy their ballistic missile systems? Is it to punish them for sponsoring terrorism all over the world for decades? Is it, as Trump suggested in one TS post, because Iran supposedly "interfered in the 2020 and 2024 election against Trump"?
As you and Bernie pointed out in the most recent no BS Zone, the president owes the Congress and the American people a much more detailed rationale for why this action was necessary at this time. I do agree with you that there IS a case to be made, but they need to make it.
My fear is that Trump was emboldened by the relatively painless operation in Venezuela at the beginning of the year, and decided he can just do the same thing in any country that he feels has offended him. I'm afraid he thinks this is Venezuela 2.0, when more likely, it is Iraq 2.0.
Woodrow Wilson ran on the campaign “he kept us out of war” and there are other examples. Presidential legacies are framed from their time in office and not from their campaign.
The jury's still out. As usual, the war in Iran will be judged by the end results. If things turn out spiffy, President Trump will be hailed as a mighty leader with keen foresight and a spine of steel. If things go south, President Trump will be seen by most as reckless and feckless, despite his effort to shift the blame or to sugar-coat it..
If the war effort goes south, the left wing Dems will invoke Vietnam & Iraq (but not Biden’s pullout from Afghanistan), and call Trump a fascist murderous dictator who interferes in the politics of sovereign nations. The MAGA right will blame Democrats.
If it’s a success, then the MAGA right will have another successful notch in their belts, and will use it for ads during the mid-terms to show how the liberal Dems supported the Anti-Gay, Women’s Rights & human rights. The left will say it’s Trump’s attempt to “wag the dog” to distract from the Epstein files
What a freekin' mess. Whether it was the right or wrong thing to do seems moot now. The stakes are incredibly high, and this has the very real possibility of spiraling out of control. Adding Trump's penchant for lying and making grandiose and stupid comments does not likely help.
John, I support taking it to the Iranian regime as well, and I certainly will not shed any tears over the Supreme Leader's demise.
My concern, however, is what exactly is the administration's endgame in Iran? Is it regime change? Is it to destroy their nuclear program once and for all? Is it to destroy their ballistic missile systems? Is it to punish them for sponsoring terrorism all over the world for decades? Is it, as Trump suggested in one TS post, because Iran supposedly "interfered in the 2020 and 2024 election against Trump"?
As you and Bernie pointed out in the most recent no BS Zone, the president owes the Congress and the American people a much more detailed rationale for why this action was necessary at this time. I do agree with you that there IS a case to be made, but they need to make it.
My fear is that Trump was emboldened by the relatively painless operation in Venezuela at the beginning of the year, and decided he can just do the same thing in any country that he feels has offended him. I'm afraid he thinks this is Venezuela 2.0, when more likely, it is Iraq 2.0.
Woodrow Wilson ran on the campaign “he kept us out of war” and there are other examples. Presidential legacies are framed from their time in office and not from their campaign.