If Obama Thinks He Inherited a Mess Four Years Ago …

I was part of a political panel over the weekend on the upcoming election.  The first question was this:  Given the weak economy, given the large number of Americans who can’t find a job, and given that most Americans think the country is on the wrong track, why isn’t Mitt Romney way out ahead?

Good question.  One possibility is that the polls are tainted.  No conspiracy to hurt Romney, just bad science.  Maybe they’re over-polling Democrats.  Maybe they’re assuming that the same number of Obama supporters will show up this time just as they did in 2008, which is not likely

But let’s say the polls are accurate.  Then why, given the state of the economy, an issue most voters say is most important to them, isn’t Mitt Romney leading by 5 points or more?

Don’t underestimate the likeability factor.  Every poll has President Obama leading by a mile when asked which candidate is more likeable.  That matters. I went back to every presidential election since Eisenhower-Stevenson in 1952, and the more likeable candidate won every time, except when Richard Nixon beat the Happy Warrior Hubert Humphrey.

That could explain why Romney, at best, is running neck-and-neck with the president.

And according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll, voters give President Obama a lead over Mitt Romney when asked which candidate would do a better job handing foreign policy, Medicare, health care, taxes – and this is a significant switch – even the economy and unemployment, where the president holds a one point lead over Romney. One point isn’t much, that’s for sure.  But the economy was Romney’s strength — an issue Romney won in the polls until now.

Only when asked who would do a better job with the federal budget deficit does Romney come out ahead of the president, 51 to 43 percent.

Most of the panelists, which included media pundits from the right and conservative activists, thought Romney would win, and win big.  I think those people are either geniuses or certifiably nuts.

Yogi Berra was right when he said making predictions is hard, especially when they’re about the future.  But I still think Obama is the odds on favorite.

But if Mitt Romney manages to win, I’m guessing it will be because the Democrats couldn’t get out the vote the way they did four years ago.

Young people enthusiastically supported the president last time around.  They still favor him, but in smaller numbers.  Four years ago a lot of them were in college.  Today, a lot of them still can’t find a job.

Hispanics probably won’t come out in the same big numbers as for years ago, and neither will Jewish voters, which might matter in Florida.  You can only make a first impression once.  Obama made his in 2008.  For a lot of his one-time supporters, the thrill is gone.

Barack Obama talks a lot about the economic mess he inherited four years ago.  Wait till he sees the mess he inherits this time if he wins.

 

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  • Troy Phillips

     Yea, you really sound like a successful wall street guy (insert Joe Biden laugh). Bitter much?

    • asl3676

      How do they sound? Have you ever worked in the securities industry?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PPL2AXPXJMWPEJWFN34MPC5RNY terry

    NO, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ELECTED A  ” MESS “  4 YEARS AGO,  THEY BOUGHT

    THE  OBAMA  SNAKE OIL,  HE SHOULD BE A BARKER FOR A SIDE SHOW AT THE

    CIRCUS & PARTTIME CLOWN, HES A JOKE !

  • Jonrod

    It doesn’t say much for the American public, when they say that Obama is the most likable. He is charismatic for sure. But, how can you really like a person that cannot tell you the truth no matter what, a man who constantly sucks up to the Muslim brotherhood, and apologizes for an American exercising his freedom of speech. Then not say anything when those same Muslims disparage Christians and Jews. I’m becoming more and more convinced that his upbringing is influencing his regard for the Muslims. How else can you explain it?

  • Gclefginger

    When they ask who would you want to have a cup of coffee with…no contest. Romney would make me feel welcomed and relaxed. A coffee with Obama would be torture.

  • Scott Crawford

    Why is a nasty piece of work like Barack Obama “likeable?” That’s the question.

    • Bobinvegas

      Because he is a professional liar and politician! 

  • Paul Courtney

    Bernie:  Read this, got so mad I punched the computer!  When the police come to your door, remember-you have a right to keep silent (speak, not so much), use it!

  • annien

     I hope to God the sleeping Giant is not sleeping just biding their time to strike.  I cannot believe we would put our country into the hands of a man who clearly does not deserve the job.  No wonder the muslim countries do not respect us.  Our president does not respect us.  He now defiles our flag and puts his symbol in place of the stars.  He is a snake charmer and he has plenty out there who dance to his tune, but don’t count me among them.  He needs to go and not a minute too soon.

  • Dchurch12

    I just have a strong feeling that Republican/Conservative or ABO (Anyone But Obama) turnout is going to be huge this year.  More like 2010 than 2008.  We’ll see.

  • potvin

    If you don’t know that the MSM is corrupt and in the tank for Obama by now, you haven’t been paying attention.

    • asl3676

      Fox News Channel’s Fox & Friends issued another correction after Thursday’s program. The morning program featured a picture that was sent out on President Barack Obama’s twitter account which showed the president sitting with a man dressed as a pirate in observance of “national talk like a pirate day.” Fox & Friends said that the president had time for a pirate but no time for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Fox & Friends later noted that the picture in question was taken in 2009.

      • NS Sherlock

        At least they admit, and own up to, their mistakes. Obummah is STILL insisting the attack on the Embassy was due to a movie, regardless that Libya says it was a terrorist attack. Who would know the truth…Libya or obummah? Or, who was there?

        • asl3676

          and the mistake was? Same mistake as Bush before 9/11?

          • NS Sherlock

            You just can’t admit that the obummah is a bold face liar. His goons are saying it’s a terrorist act but he keeps denying it. The people in Libya were THERE. I would believe them before I’d believe the liar in the White House. You defend and lap up every word he says as if it’s gospel…or, maybe you are sexually attracted to him.

          • asl3676

            I hope medicare covers the cost of a brain transplant for you…Go see a doctor ASAP…

          • Ns Sherlock

             asl3676,

            You’ll need a lip and tongue transplant soon. I doubt anyone can scrape off the brown…

      • Jonrod

        But the issue is the same. And the biggest insult of all was the fact that he made no attempt to rearrange his campaigning to meet with Netanyahu.  Oh well I guess a phone call is as great a concession he could make. This amateur needs to retire and return to Chicago and join his radical buddies.

        • asl3676

          Why would he meet with Netanyahu? What was the purpose so Bibi can posture about Iran and try to draw the U.S. into a war? Wake up….Netanyahu is a politician…50%  of Israeli’s dont agree with him..

  • potemkin_village_usa

    There are way too many factors in why the economy went south!!
    And why it was booming during Clinton! And how Bush inherited the post dot com losses! And now how Obama is backing government spending and hyper inflation as opposed to deflating the money supply and balanced budget!
    –The Fed gave Clinton the Dot Com Bubble which pumped make believe wealth onto Wall Street by pumping make believe money into the economy which had to go somewhere.
    –During Clinton, the Fed pumped make believe money into the economy which kept interest rates low and pumped up the housing bubble.
    –The Housing bubble and the stock market crashed and now we have the government bubble where Bernanke is buying our debt and thus we have QE one, two and now three!
    The Government has decided that it will pay down its debt in watered down dollars and the world isn’t buying it viz. the cost of oil.
    –Obama wants to deny the medicine we need to stave off the end of our economy as we know it within the tenure of his presidency by doing what the Weimar Republic had done in the thirties…..Print more money, pretentiously pay down the debt with watered down currency which increases the debt, and keep spending like there’s no tomorrow (shoveling money out of helicopter). Austerity like Secretary Mellon had done in the early twenties is the cure ….painful as it would be.
    –We can thank such “geniuses” like Paul Krugman for cheerleading for the artificial and bad allocation of resources via the bubbles as artificial booms. What it did was create real crashes and huge untenable debt. (He’s a Nobel Prize winner in Economics; Wow!!!!!)

    • Paul Courtney

      Good thumbnail, Mr. Village.  I heard this one, we had QE1, QE2, and now it’s QE to infinity and beyond!  If only our Pres. had the leadership skills of Buzz Lightyear!

      • Deny916

        Amen to that Paul!

    • William Custis Buffington

      SPOT ON THEIR OL’ SON
      You ought to read “The Real Crash” by Peter Schiff.  He goes into the same detail as you on the abuses of the Fed and the creation of bubbles to forestall the inevitable recessions manufactured by the manipulation of the money supply and the interest rates.
      Montani Semper Liberi,
      Billy Cus, WV
      P.S. Go Mountaineers, Beat Maryland

      • asl3676

        Peter Schiff is a right wing blowhard who is selling gold and fear….He also ran for Republican Senate seat in Conn….Easy to sell fear..hard to come up with solutions..

  • asl3676

    So I’m inclined to take Mitt Romney at his word when he disparages nearly half the country to a roomful of wealthy donors on a secretly recorded tape.
    As I’m sure you know by now, Romney said that the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income taxes are people who are
    dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.
    He also said:
    My job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.
    There is no amount of backtracking and truth bending that can make this right. It’s just wrong. It’s not just the patently false implication that half the country is parasitic. It’s not just the bleak view that they wallow in victimization. It is also his utter dismissal of this group: “my job is not to worry about those people.”

    • Jeffreydan

        Phew! Good thing nobody’s requiring you to vote for him, eh?

    • Jmh

      That tape has been edited to distort what he said 2.mintes were taken out. But I’m sure msm won’t report that. They have totally twisted everything he has said. Anyone who would vote for Obama must have no idea about the current state of our country

  • Windylmp

     Obama will still blame Bush no matter what…. Obama will never see he has done a damn thing wrong…… all I have to say……

    • asl3676

      How do you know what Obama sees? Have you talked to him?                                                                            

      • Deny916

        Why don’t you go and post on CNN where someone might actually appreciate your bloviating?

      • Jeffreydan

           If a direct conversation is needed in order to justify a comment, then I’ll just accept your retraction of all the remarks you’ve said about Governor Romney, not that they matter.

        • asl3676

          Point well taken….my apologies…

  • Paul Courtney

    In other news, Obama Administration officials indicate initial reports received thus far indicate the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001 were spontaneous reactions to the offensive depiction of Muslims in the 1930′s British film, “The Four Feathers”.  The Administration could not comment further, as the investigation is ongoing.  Now back to our top story, the Romney campaign is still refusing to apologize for recent comments that people who pay no income tax may not be in favor of an income tax cut.

    • Alden514

      OMG, Paul!  What a great post!  Off to CNN you go! :)

      • asl3676

        Can I use you as a reference?…..LOL

        • Paul Courtney

          Alden says sure, but where to fit you in?  Can’t be AC306, he’s actually reporting truth about total failure of Obama Admin. middle east “outreach” (more aptly called “bend-over reach”), and he let Debbie W. Schultz know he wasn’t buying her stone-faced lies (she didn’t seem to care, did she?).  Nah, that’s not for you.  I’m afraid you’re too much fluff for morning show…I got it, you could play the conservative on an Erin Burnett panel!  You wouldn’t have to change a thought.

          • Alden514

            Anderson Cooper is reporting the TRUTH???  Good for him!  I may try tocatch 360 to see it with my own eyes!

          • Ernest

            It was just greed on Anderson Cooper for airing the details of  Chris Steven’s journal.  He thought he beat other networks to it and didn’t realize that it will be a negative press for Washington.   I’m sure he got an earful from it.  After that expose’ the mainstream media are all silent again about the scoop,  shhhhhh it’s gonna be bad for Obama and Hillary.

  • FloridaJim

    We can’t depend on the media we must depend on Romney, Ryan, Christie, Priebus, Boehner, McConnell, Guliani et al to get out the message in a powerful and plain way, is that too much to ask?  Romney acts lie a bystander not a leader. A leader has fire, passion and a desire to change the world not move on to the next speech[unless your Obama].

    • http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Tuci78

      “Romney acts lie a bystander not a leader. A leader has fire, passion and a desire to change the world not move on to the next speech [unless you're Obama].”

      There’s the Etch-A-Sketch (and the Mystery Magical Mombasa Messiah) in flaming factuality.

      Remember, the LDS Luser tried for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, and he blew chunks against McCain, the guy who only a few years before had been seriously talking about changing his party affiliation from “(R)” to “(D).”

      You want “Republican In Name Only”? That’s Crash Test Johnnie McCain.

      So after having appealed to nobody but Republican voters in 2008, the Romnhoid couldn’t beat the spoiled brat naval aviator who caused that horrendous fire aboard the U.S.S. Forrestal on 29 July 1967. 

      Just how the hell d’you think he’s gonna perform against the Cook County Machine thug who’s at the top of the National Socialist ticket?

    • asl3676

      Watching two old fossils, like Goldberg and O’Reilly, who have never done anything heroic, remarkable or even interesting in their long, long lives drone on and on like little social dictators… this is the most popular right wing show?I would rather poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick than sit through an hour of that.At least O’Reilly named the segment correctly, “Weekend at Bernie’s” which was a movie about making a dead guy seem interesting.                                                                             

      • FloridaJim

        Here is a book you may enjoy about our government since the 1990′s.”The Corruption Chronicles” By Tom Fitton. It is time we all paid attention to how we have been ripped off by our sleazy politicians. They call Clinton, “the despicable bill Clinton” for all his scandals ,and his becoming a multi-multi-millionaire since he left office. You may enjoy the book it is stocked with facts and the resources used to gather the data.  You may know this information watching and reading lamestream media or attending public schools.Enjoy.

        • asl3676

          Are you biased against public schools?  What’s your point?                                                                            

          • FloridaJim

            No I graduated from a Public School when homework was given and children were held accountable. We spend more than every country other than Switzerland and have terrible results due to the unions who control everything from teachers to curricula to penalties. The only schools in Chicago and Washington D.C. that work are Charter Schools run by dedicated teachers who demand results and get those results. Look at the Chicago strike two grossly obese leaders, one a community organizer, demanding more money for themselves not the children not the taxpayer only their own selfishness.I thought Wisconsin showed America what to do to correct the nations schools but some don’t listen. Google “rubber rooms’ in New York city schools to enlighten you about unions and weak politicians. Thank you for asking.

          • asl3676

            You seem more than a bit angry….Do you know any teachers? The Chicago strike leaders are obese? Is that the best you can come up with to vent your hate?

      • Jmh

        That’s why its the number 1 watched cable news station for the last 10 years

        • asl3676

          The most watched non news show on cable tv is pro wrestling…Like Fox News it is entertaing but phony…

      • Otto Maddock

        How can someone who would rather poke himself in the eye with a sharp stick than watch O’Reilly and Goldberg know so much about the show?

  • asl3676

    As I worked on Wall Street for 20 years I think I have some knowledge of the mortgage backed securities situation….I deal in facts you deal in Fox News talking points…believe what you want….ignorance is bliss..

    • Montana

      And I worked for the “Big Banks” for about the same amount of years- so far, Fox News is pretty right on as far as the facts go. Nice try…

      • asl3676

        Fox News is right on the facts? What fact? Being a bank teller doesn’t give you much insight into the workings of Wall Street…LOL

        • falling321

          Hon, serving tables in a restaurant located on a road called Wall Street doesn’t give you a lot of insight either!  Don’t you realize that people on these boards can read your posts and know when you are telling a whopper?  As for Fox…I’m sure they are wrong once in a while…but the alphabet channels tell flat out lies and then pat themselves on the back, knowing the few viewers they have left have swallowed the lies all hook, line and sinker!  What was it that Wasserman-Shultz said….oh yeah, facts don’t matter!

          • asl3676

            I have no need to tell you any whoppers as I don’t even know you…I worked for large Wall Street firms for 20 years and was involved in debt securities including mortgage backed securities and corporate securities….Fox News is selling simple answers to complex issues…If you’d like to read the best book on the subject read ”Too Big to Fail” by Andrew Sorkin… 

          • Wheels55

            You probably were great at your Wall Street firm job…of pushing a broom after hours.

    • Bruskie

      Sorry asl3676, I missed your facts.   Could you enlighten us about what on earth your talking about?

      • asl3676

        The fact is that the “blame” for the housing bubble lies chiefly, but not exclusively, with Wall Street…..The easy money made creating mortgage backed securities allowed Wall Street firms to make billions and created an artificial demand to issue more and more mortgages…
        Politics played a role as did the ratings agencies but Wall Street was the driving force…

        • Alden514

          When government sponsored enterprises (Freddie and Fannie) are backed by the Federal Government to provide sub-prime lending so “every American can own a home,” it creates an economy of misleading information (which the TRUE market relies on).  Freddie and Fannie accounted for 90% of 2nd mortgages, selling loans to make a profit.  Add to this the Community Reinvestment Act, (beginning with Carter, and pushed forward by Clinton, Dodd/Frank’s legislation and even Bush) mandating that banks lend to borrowers who didn’t have the ability to repay the loans but made the homes ridiculously easy for them to buy.  No one had to provide income or asset verification.  They didn’t even have to pay sub-prime rates.  A free market would NEVER touch these loans–mandated by the government, they had to.  When the Federal Reserve interferes with the free market (creating money out of “thin air”) and the US Government interferes with the “affordable housing inititave,” then the loans are secured and sold to Wall Street…who could possibly believe this was a recipe for success???
           
          So banks got greedy to make a profit on people who were stupid and irresponsible to purchase these homes in the first place.  It’s the pot calling the kettle black.  But please don’t blame the free market or Wall Street, where this NEVER would have happened, EXCEPT for the interference of “government intervention”.

          • asl3676

            So the housing bubble, which burst in 2007, was caused by a law passed 30 years before that? Go read something about the subject if you want to increase your knowledge of the subject….

          • Alden514

            The Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007 was in…ahhhh…2007????

          • asl3676

            I was referring to the CRA…blame whomever you would like to…Still blaming Clinton for 9/11?

  • Randy

    God save the United States of America.  Not sure anyone else can.

    • asl3676

      Keep praying Randy and send money to Pat Robertson….

  • Soubellvoter

    God help the clueless! We are losing our country to a mouth full of teeth, feeding everyone a line of bs, perpetrating the biggest hoax ever on America ‘Eastwood’!!!

    • asl3676

      Now your quoating that great sage and oracle Clint Eastwood?  Hysterical…

      • NS Sherlock

        At least Clint’s career as a politician was SUCCESSFUL.

  • asl3676

    I can have them send you a bumper sticker….LOL

  • Superamerican

    The folks on CNN just announced that essentially the campaign is over.

    • Deny916

      CNN is so left leaning lame…do we really care what they think?????

    • asl3676

       The Pew Research survey shows Obama running 8 percentage points ahead of Romney (51 to 43 percent) among 2,192 likely voters interviewed from Sept. 12 to 16, a period that began a week after the Democratic convention.                                                                           

      • Troy Phillips

         You still quoting these numbers, libtard?

  • joer1

    I can’t figure out why Obama is “likable” …. I’m convinced there is something wrong with me!

    • asl3676

      Perhaps you’re right….you’re suffering from Ols White Man Hate Syndrome…
      See a doctor as soon as possible…

      • falling321

        Oh dear, another liberal who sees the world through a prism of race.  Get over it…skin color isn’t a reason to vote against anyone and it is certainly isn’t a reason to vote FOR someone!

      • Joel Wischkaemper

        Bigotry.. maybe racism up there.  It is amazing how much idiots get around these days.  I keep wondering.. do prisoners comment on these boards?

  • asl3676

    Mitt Romney Attacks 47% of Americans
    Yesterday, a hidden camera video of Mitt Romney addressing millionaire donors emerged — and it wasn’t pretty. Among other things, Romney accuses nearly half of all Americans of being lazy and dependent on government largesse. For good measure, Romney adds that his “job is not to worry about those people” because they’ll always be lazy and will never change.

    • Soubellvoter

       Just what I want in a president; to make the hard choices and state the truth! Someone with four kids getting $700 a month for food and swaps some out for alcohol and drugs (pills) is not exactly looking for work and never has but in Obama’s economy, she couldn’t find one should she change her mind, but why would she; living at home with her parents!!

      • asl3676

        Those lazy colored and mexican freeloaders…..they never existed before Obama became President…more of Romney’s “victims”…How much more bigoted can you get?

        • falling321

          Oh they existed all right…they just exist in much larger numbers now that Obama has made it more comfortable and much easier to get onto the some form of government dole!

        • Joel Wischkaemper

          You are the only one who says these things asl3676.  You need to check the mirror and find out if any one is there.

        • Genann59

           I saw no mention of color or ethnic groups except in your remark ass13676. How you can throw race into the conversation and then call other people bigots is beyond me, but most of the remarks on here, which defy any sort of rational thinking are beyond me also. You are pretty obviously just another troll on here to mess up any meaningful conversation with your democratic party talking points and accusations of racism.

        • Ted Crawford

          In the first case, I heard no mention,  by Romney, about ethnicity. In the second I heard no part of his statement that claimed this was anything new, what I did hear was that he said that it was well past time that it ceased to exist! He also mentioned that we should work to help the economy to provide them with oppertunities to once again, or maybe for the first time, become self sufficient and productive citizens!
          ” To be thrown upon one’s own resources is to be cast into the very lap of fortune, for our faculties undergo a development and display an energy of which they were previously unsusceptable!” Ben Franklin 

        • Jeffreydan

            asl,
            Enough with the race card. While it does make you look stupid, you are smart enough to know that Obama is not being criticized by people here because of his race. You know damn well that John Edwards would get the same criticism if he were president.

            If you truly do encounter a racist comment here, it may fit the criteria for deletion, so report it.

            A little back-and-forth sniping is all well and good here, but if you personally attack me with a bigotry accusation again, I will report you.

          • asl3676

            So you really think race is not an issue?….Who are the freeloaders Romney is talking about? If you don’t recognize political dog whistles then your not as smart as I think you are…

          • Jeffreydan

            “So you really think race is not an issue?”  “Think”? No, actually I KNOW race is not an issue. Not only can you not prove racism is of any consequence whatsoever, I have more than enough proof that the whole thing is one big falsehood.  You actually just showed a perfect example of your problem: “freeloaders” is not a race-oriented word, there is no color or other grouping that is not represented in the so-called freeloading population, and it wouldn’t stop being a problem if it were comprised entirely of caucasians.    You have automatically associated so many anti-Obama-policy views with bigotry, you’ve only reduced yourself to a desperate fool.   The other problem you have is believing that you prove someone to be factually or morally wrong with nothing more than an accusation. It makes no difference to you if the accusation is based on a leap no reasonable person would make.  So, toss your tattered little race card in the trash if you refuse to show a clear, unambiguous example of bigotry. 

    • NS Sherlock

      At least Romney didn’t LIE. Romney’s comments are NOT as bad as obummah bold-face lying to Americans by stating the attack on September 11th was a ‘spontaneous’ action. He ‘could’ have had the intel 2 weeks prior (if he’d have shown up for the occasional briefing) and ordered protection for the Embassy. But no…he had the nerve to insinuate the Libya government was wrong in stating for a FACT muslims were marking the anniversary date of 9-11 bombing in New York. I really enjoyed Libya calling his bluff! Whoooo hoooo! Anyone with half a brain could figure this one out…unless you’re still trying to spin it to be Bush or Romney’s fault.

      • asl3676

        I’m not sure what caling 46% of Americans freeloaders and victims has to do with Libya but I’m sure you do…..By the way, if this was so obvious where were the attacks on 9/11/2011 and 9/11 2010?

        • NS Sherlock

          Can’t admit your massa is a compulsive liar?

          • asl3676

            I’m not sure what your point is but politicians and people in authority lie all the time….depends what they are lying about and to whom…
            Embassy security is handled by the State Department .

          • falling321

            TADA!!!!  Now we know why people like asl3676 will be voting for Obama once again…he expects Obama to lie to him and is happy to live in Obama’s made up world as long as his check arrives on time!

          • Genann59

             You need to add another “s” behind the other one, to make it more fitting to your remarks.

    • Jeffreydan

        When Obama uttered the “clinging to guns…” insult, was that a problem for you? When he forced Obamacare through, effectively telling the majority of Americans to shove it, was that a problem for you?

        I’m curious if there’s anything you could discover about a democrat candidate, anything he’d say or do, that would cost him your vote. You’ve spent so much energy posting things that supposedly disqualify Romney, as if you didn’t consider his being a Republican unacceptable in the first place.

      • asl3676

        Obamacare effectively tells the majority of Americans to shove it? Does Medicare and Social Security also do the same thing? I’m confused by your logic or lack of the same…

        • Jeffreydan

            You confuse too easily.
            By the time the law was being voted on, there was hardly a poll out there (if any at all) where the majority favored it.
            OBAMA effectively told the majority of Americans to shove it when he forced Obamacare through. 

            I’m reposting this hoping you have it in you to respond:
             I’m curious if there’s anything you could discover about a democrat candidate, anything he’d say or do, that would cost him your vote. You’ve spent so much energy posting things that supposedly disqualify Romney, as if you didn’t consider his being a Republican unacceptable in the first place.

            What say you?

          • asl3676

            People who have insurance and senior citizens were against Obamacare….so what? You want government policy to be based upon polling? What’s your point?

          • Jeffreydan

              “People who have insurance and senior citizens were against Obamacare….so what?”

              Nooooo, the majority of Americans, with varied medical and financial situations, had a voice. When practically every polling service focuses that kind of time & effort on that important a topic, you’ll hear from far more than those two groups. Don’t be so dismissive. 

              “You want government policy to be based upon polling? What’s your point?”

              The point: to get whatever amount of intellectual honesty you possess to enter the discussion. You think it’s an issue for the minority to be ostensibly dissed by a politician (but check the context), but you’re avidly supporting a guy who has pretty effortlessly dismissed the majority.

              I want the govt to be run as required by the Constitution, but that really wasn’t the topic.   

          • asl3676

            Yes.. I will not vote for any Democrat who votes for questionable war like Hillary did with Iraq.
            I will not vote for any Democrat who votes to cut Social Security or Medicare benefits….
            I’m sure I can think of a few more but its time to go…

          • falling321

            Social Security and Medicare are going broke and Obama sped that up by taking $700,000 out of it to pay for Obamacare!  Someone had better start making cuts as Seniors are now living longer and receiving about three times more from both SS and medicare than they pay in over their lifetime.  If someone in DC doesn’t do something it won’t be long until everyone is doing without a safety net of any kind!

          • Jeffreydan

              If your concern is the elderly’s access to their rightful Medicare benefits, you might want to consider the chances they’ll get less out of Medicare as a result of $700+ billion being removed by the guy you plan to vote for.

              If Hillary were to ever be the democrat candidate for president, and not get your vote regardless, that is a level of integrity & consistency far too rare among democrats nowadays.

          • Bob Hadley

            “By the time the law was being voted on, there was hardly a poll out there (if any at all) where the majority favored it. OBAMA effectively told the majority of Americans to shove it when he forced Obamacare through. ”

            So you think a good president governs by sticking his finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing?  I guess you must have defended Pres. Clinton when he was attacked (sometimes inaccurately) for governing that way. 

            A lot of people opposed Obamacare because it didn’t have a public option or a single payer system.  I bet a solid majority of Americans favor some type of comprehensive health care law.  I guess you don’t think much of JFK’s book Profiles in Courage – you think it’s about a bunch of politicians who effectively told their constituencies to shove it?

            Much to the chagrin of much of his base,  Pres. Obama compromised with Repubs from the get -go by advocating the individual mandate.

          • Jeffreydan

              I was very simply trying to make a general point to asl, Bob, that Obama apparently cares even less about respect for citizens than Governor Romney, his “governing: style notwithstanding.

              A solid majority of Americans don’t like the idea of close to 3,000 pages of overregulation being forced upon them without anyone, not even the people voting on it, knowing what’s in it. If you’re okay with that, that’s pretty troubling.

          • Bob Hadley

            JeffreyDan, 

             I know what simple point you were trying to make.: When your guy pursues a course of conduct that you like, irrespective of its unpopularity, he’s a man of principle and backbone – he doesn’t govern by polls like certtain yellow bellies you don’t like.

            But when a leader you don’t like pursues a course of conduct that you don’t like that’s not popular at the moment, he’s spitting in the eyes of the voters.

            And remember, Pres. Obama was democratically elected on, among other things, a pledge to bring about a comprehensive health care law.  With the help of the democractically elected Congress and the democratic process he pushed it through.  It’s unfortunate that Republican locked arms on it, rejecting what was essentially the Republican’s alternative to Hillary-care in the 1990′s. 

            Earlier drafts of Obamacare were available to the public.  Congress had ample time to read it.  Yes, the final draft was rushed.  The basic tenents of the law were well known before-the-fact.  There were months and months of debate over the bill. BTW, Rep. Pelosi’s statement was taken out of context.

            And you’re ignoring that the majority of voters probably want some kind of comprehensive health care law. 

            Apparently you’re OK with Pres. GW Bush ramming the Iraq war down our throats after a clever PR blitz and during a political season when Americans were worried about our security.  And, yes, many in the Democratic Congress buckled under political pressure. 

            Above I listed facts were we were mislead into war.  Your response was, in effect, to put your fingers in your ears and scream,”Tain’t so!”

          • Bob Hadley

            One morer thing JeffreyDan,

            To say that Pres. Obama does nto care for or has no respect for American citizens is stupid.  There is no evidence of this.  In fact, quite the contrary. 

            It’s one thing to vehemently disagree with his policies, but you go far beyond that. 

          • Jeffreydan

              “To say that Pres. Obama does nto care for or has no respect for American citizens is stupid.  There is no evidence of this.  In fact, quite the contrary.”

              Ask traditional Americans how respected they felt hearing the “clinging to their guns…” statement. 
              Ask them the same thing about the “he has a funny name, did I mention he’s black?” statement.
              Ask the Cambridge police how respected they felt hearing how they “acted stupidly”.
              Ask doctors how respected they felt when he generalized about them performing unnecessary amputations.
              Ask people who saved up, worked very long and hard hours, took risks, and put up with all the govt taxes, fees, & regs to make their businesses succeed how respected they felt when he, having concluded they weren’t properly appreciative, made the “you didn’t build that” speech.
              Ask law-enforcement officers in Arizona how respected they felt when he said they would violate SB1070′s anti-profiling rule.

              I could go on, believe me, but I wouldn’t want to “go far beyond” anything. : )>

          • Bob Hadley

            You’re grabbing at straws, as usual.

            You cited two remarks he made in the ’08 campaign. 

             The Cambridge police incident involved two officers.  He made amends as to that unfortunate statement. 

            Refer me to the quote where Pres. Obama “generalized” about doctors performing unnecessary amputations.  That seems unlikely, especially because only a small percentage of doctors perform any amputations.

            As for the “you didn’t build that” remark, Pres. Obama was obviously saying that businessmen didn’t build our elaborate infrastructure, infrastructure that aids commerce and allows for fruition of the hard work of private individuals.

            Saying that Pres. Obama doesn’t think individuals build businesses is at least as stupid as saying that Gov. Romney gets his jollies from firing people or that he hates people who are not required to pay federal income taxes. 

            Are you really that stupid or are you just being stupidly dishonest in doubling-down on your obviously irrational accusation?

            Pres. Obama’s policies – from the Obamacare to the drone strikes on Al Queda to the bail out of Wall Street and of GM and Chystler – were all intended to help this nation.  Disagreeing is one thing, but to assail Pres. Obama’s motives is far beyond decency.

          • Bob Hadley

            JeffreyDan,

            I know what simple point you were trying to make.: When your guy pursues a course of conduct that you like, irrespective of its unpopularity, he’s a man of principle and backbone – he doesn’t govern by polls like certtain yellow bellies you don’t like.

            But when a leader you don’t like pursues a course of conduct that you don’t like that’s not popular at the moment, he’s spitting in the eyes of the voters.

            And remember, Pres. Obama was democratically elected on, among other things, a pledge to bring about a comprehensive health care law. With the help of the democractically elected Congress and the democratic process he pushed it through. It’s unfortunate that Republican locked arms on it, rejecting what was essentially the Republican’s alternative to Hillary-care in the 1990′s.

            Earlier drafts of Obamacare were available to the public. Congress had ample time to read it. Yes, the final draft was rushed. The basic tenents of the law were well known before-the-fact. There were months and months of debate over the bill. BTW, Rep. Pelosi’s statement was taken out of context.
            And you’re ignoring that the majority of voters probably want some kind of comprehensive health care law.

            Apparently you’re OK with Pres. GW Bush ramming the Iraq war down our throats after a clever PR blitz and during a political season when Americans were worried about our security. And, yes, many in the Democratic Congress buckled under political pressure.

            Below, I explained how we were mislead into war. Your response was, in effect, to put your fingers in your ears and scream,”Tain’t so!”

          • Jeffreydan

              1) Correct, I cited two remarks, which were disrespectful.
              2) If he had simply made a public apology to the police, he might’ve appeared respectful. His subsequent “calibrated” remark and the beer summit were disingenuous and showy, not the actions of a guy who regretted his lack of respect.    
              His friend treated the officer with loud contempt, and the entire dept made very clear the president’s reaction was out of line.      
              3)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG56B2et4M8
              Looking again, I don’t think it’s accurate to call it a generalization, and while there are medical professionals who didn’t appreciate his implication, in all fairness it doesn’t seem blatantly disrespectful to me after all. It wasn’t a wise thing to say, and a little ignorant (doctors don’t even get $1,000 for an amputation).
              4) You really missed it on this one. It’s seriously disrespectful to scold people for something you don’t know they’re guilty of, and whose taxes pay for that infrastructure, not to mention your salary and myriad benefits. Like many others in business, my reaction was ”what the hell did I do wrong that earned me this snarky little talking-to? I’m already pretty damn aware of the world around me, thank you.”   
              Unless you have rewritten the rules of grammar, Obama absolutely did say they didn’t build the business. Either way the message ends up the same, actually, that Obama has decided we aren’t sufficiently grateful.   
               If you still don’t get that, then you’re in no position to speculate about others’ stupidity or stubbornness.

              Unless you’re planning a creative tarting-up of his accusation of the Arizonans, I’ll just say it’s been fun trashing your “there is no evidence of this”.   

          • Bob Hadley

            “ It’s seriously disrespectful to scold people for something you don’t know they’re guilty of, and whose taxes pay for that infrastructure, not to mention your salary and myriad benefits. ”

            This is so muddled that it’s hard to unravel.  First, Pres. Obama wasn’t scolding anyone.  He was presenting a counter-argument to the attitude that gov. is of very little or no utility to businesses. 

            Of course businessmen collectively pay for gov. employees to build and maintain the infrastructure!!!!   You’re supporting my point.  Pres. Obama was saying that this collectivity (i.e. the gov.) was providing a foundation on which businessmen can build.

            Yes, if you take every word literally in Pres. Obama’s two sentences, he did say what you accused him of saying.  But when you look at the context of his argument, it doesn’t make any sense to take every word literally.  It’s obvious that by “that” he meant infrastructure. 

            Even without considering the context, he was obviously refering to infrastructure when he said “you didn’t build that.”    No one actually believes that government does the work of building  a a private business.  When a literal reading makes no sense, a reasonable and honest person looks to interpretation. 

            I know you’re so perfect as to never misspeak, but many people frequently do misspeak, especially politician who are constantly speaking on the campaign trail.  If nothing else, it’s the law of averages.  If you’re really interested in the truth, you can’t be in gotcha mode. 

            And Pres. Obama wasn’t addressing his argument to businessmen per se.  He was addressing his argument to Republicans, esp. the Romney campaign. 

            Look at Gov. Romney’s now infamous remarks back in May.  He literally and contextually said that the 47% of American voters who don’t pay federal income taxes (including many social security recipients, the working poor, some veterans and even some of the wealthy) consider themselves victims, have the entitlement mentality and don’t take personal responsibility for their lives.

            He obviously didn’t really mean what he literally said.

            When you look at Gov. Romeny’s life, particularly his political life, and the setting for his remarks, it’s easy to see that he was simply saying what he thought would get the group of very conservative wealthy donors to maximize their contributions.  His remarks were abviously not well thought out as to accuracy. 

            You began by saying that in enacting Obamacare Pres Obama showed disrespect to the majority of American citizens.  Then you later try to back it up with a few isolated statements Pres. Obama made, e.g. an admittedly disrepectful remark he made about two officers (are they a majority of American citizens???). 

            To your credit, you backed-off your accusation regarding Pres. Obama’s statement about surgeons.  I think all surgeons would agree that if a diabetic gets the proper medical attention early enough and if he follows doctor’s orders, it’s  highly unlikely that he’ll need an amputation.  Pres. Obama was merely saying that such preventitive care should be covered by insur.  That remard was in no way disrespectful, even if you disagree with it.

            As for AZ law enforcement, if Pres. Obama believes that enforcement of that law might or would  violate an anti-profiling rule, then there’s nothing wrong with his saying so.  You’re confusing a politician making a remark that you or certain others disagree with, as opposed to an inherently disrespectful remark that serves no constructive purpose.

            If it weren’t for time demands of my business, I could play this gotcha game with you all day.

            Did Pres. GW Bush show disrespect to our troops and the American voters by ramming the Iraq war down our throats after a sleazy PR blitz capitalizing on our fears of being attacked again and fears of the spector of a “mushroom cloud”?

            Did Pres GW Bush show disrespect to our troops by keeping them in a lingering combat zone, many to be killed or maimed or to acquire PTSD or traumatic brain injury, for a couple of years with no progress or end-game (i.e. before the so-called surge)?

            Yes, I know.  the Democratic Congress was complicit.

            I think the latter two examples of disrespect are far more serious than the ones you cite.  By the way, I don’t necessarily answer the last two questions in the affirmative. 

    • Joel Wischkaemper

      Yes.. he did do all of that and what an ass of a thing to say.  I would ask him immediately where he got that information and then examine it before I condemned him to much.  

      But the choice is still clear unfortunately: a President who is moving us toward an open border, or a President who was spied on by the Grandson of Jimmy Carter.  (What was he doing there anyway?)  Romney is going to win. 

      • asl3676

        President who is moving us to an open border? What are you talking about?

        A President who was spied on by the grandson of Jimmy Carter? Romney is not nor will he ever be President…Jimmy Carter’s grandson did not record the dinner..The dinner was before 150 people…That’s spying?

        Romney is an arrogant rich guy who is totally out of touch….Did you think that a candidate who refuses to divulge his tax returns can be trusted?

    • Alden514

      “Romney accuses nearly half of all Americans of being lazy and dependent on government largesse”

      The truth hurts, doesn’t it?  When he said it’s not his job to worry about thos people, maybe he mant to not worry about courting their votes, because he won’t get them anyway.  Maybe if he’s elected, he will worry about getting them JOBS!

      And another thought, I’m so tired of liberals pulling the race card every time someone disagrees with obama.  Maybe it’s the POLICIES we disagree with.  I know for a fact I dislike his white half just as much as his black half!

      • Alden514

        Please forgive the typos.  I’m new to this board and don’t know how to edit yet!

      • asl3676

        I’m sorry to hear what you’re tired about but Romney’s statement shows unbelievable arrogance and disdain …. As we  dont even know if Romney pays any taxes it shows he has a large set of balls….

        • Alden514

          I truly feel anyone with any sense of intelligence is tired of the race card (oops, I forget liberals don’t have that sense).  What is so arrogant and disdainful about the truth (oops, I forget liberals can’t face that either) As for a large set of balls, we could USE that in the White House since it’s been so lacking the last four years (oops, I foget liberals can’t make anyone “sad” or “hurt their feelings”)

          • asl3676

            How did Bush’s large set of balls work out for you? You want a tough guy call fat boy Chris Christie…

          • NS Sherlock

            Why do you think people refer to obummah as a ‘squatter’ in the White House?

          • Alden514

            worked just fine for me!  and oops again…I forgot those liberal touchy-feely “can’t hurt anyone or be nasty” sensibilities (lol!) don’t apply to conservatives.

      • Troy Phillips

         I don’t know if that last paragraph is original but that is golden! Would make a great campaign ad.

    • Deny916

      Mitt Romney told the truth…and the lame stream media just can’t handle the truth!

      • asl3676

        Thanks for the brilliant statement Mrs. Palin…

        • Deny916

          You’re welcome.

  • Superamerican

    Nothing much matters since the media is such a strong subdivision oh Obama’s campaign. For example, re: Egypt and Libya the media quietly parrots Obama’s “the movie did it”, obfuscating what the evidence seems to be and what Libyan leaders say. Gone now, the media frenzy is what Romney said in a private meeting about 47% of Americans not paying income taxes voting for Obama. The media picked that apart saying it was “technically” correct (it is exactly correct) but added on the Obama campaign’s behalf that most people paid non-income taxes (which wasn’t any part of what Romney said).

    The remarks cause uproar (in the media, duh)… Is it a fatal mistake (accepting it as a mistake, the only issue is whether it’s fatal or less-than-fatal)…that he is “out of touch” is beyond question to the media, completely disregarding that Obama, having never worked a real jod, only government-financed ones

    • NS Sherlock

       He’s ridden the affirmative action train all his life, being “black” when it meant something free. He doesn’t know anything except getting government handouts.

      • asl3676

        Spoken like a true bigot…..What have you gotten besides a dose of hate and bitterness?

        • Genann59

           Probably what you liberals don’t understand, He has gotten what he EARNED. A concept that apparently is beyond your scope of thinking.

    • falling321

      They had planned for this tape to be releases as part of their October surprise, but they needed to pulll it out now in order to distract from Obama’s failures in the middle east!  Personally I think it is about time someone starts admitting that we have far too many in the wagon and far too few left to pull after the changes Obama has made to our economy!  Romney’s statement pales in comparison to the tape where Obama is admitting he DOES believe in wealth redistribution…after lying to the American people for years!

      • Genann59

         Agreed. The remarks were made last May, and recorded by Jimmie Carter’s unemployed grandson, and they have been holding on to them for the most opportune time to throw them out there and with Obama’s disastrous handling of the situation in the Middle East they needed to throw it out to turn the focus off how poorly Obama’s Middle East policy has turned around and bit him on the ass.

  • Drew Page

    Romney is used to dealing with educated business people who understand business and economics.  Such people need to be convinced of things on the basis of facts and logic, not screaming, crying and emotional outbursts.   This is why Romney is regarded as emotionless.    The majority of Romney’s supporters want to hear Romney screaming at Obama for unemployment, the deficit, the number of people on government assistence, the anti-American riots in the Middle East.  In other words, they want Romney to act like a Democrat union boss and kick the Prwez in the nuts. 

  • nobozo2012

    The problem is 47% of Americans are on the federal dole by not paying any federal income taxes.  And they are going to support any candidate who promises to keep it that way.  Nothing I can see is going to change that.  What we need is another good 1930′s style depression.  That would toughen us up as a country and put an end to this mindless entitlement mentality.  Tough love.

    • asl3676

      I’ll let my 90 year old father know that you think he’s on the federal dole….I’m sure he’ll appreciate your sentiments…

      • Paradox4

        Your 90 year old father may have paid into SMS and Medicare, but he also elected the people who wasted it.

        I’m so sick of this line.

        • asl3676

          Romney referred to the 47% of Americans who receive a check from the federal government and pay no federal income tax….I believe my father in law fits Romney’s description…I’ll let him know Romney thinks he’s a victim…

          • falling321

            Does he think he is a victim?  I met quite a few elderly people living on SS and medicare who do….after all, they bought into the idea that SS was going to be their retirment plan and they didn’t do anything to help themselves, so now they are living in poverty and looking for someone besides themselves to blame!  Then there are the elderly who took personal responsibility for their own retirement by saving and investing and are using their SS to pay for the mortgage on their winter home!  So sorry to hear your father didn’t plan well for his future…hope you did a better job and can help him out as you should!

          • Genann59

             If your father is in his 90s you had better hope and pray (if you believe in such) that he doesn’t get really sick or need any costly surgeries if Obamacare kicks in, since people over 70 will no longer be eligible for most expensive procedures under that law, as many doctors have already been informed. But then, he won’t have to worry about how people feel as to whether he pays taxes or not, nor will you. BTW with no few actually contributing to FICA anymore, they have moved the date up where the ponzi scheme will run out of money anyhow, since basically most of what is in that trust fund is IOUs from the gov’t who “borrowed” the money to pay for other stuff.

      • falling321

        If you dad is on SS and medicare he isn’t on the public dole is he!  But if he is getting a welfare check, HUD and food stamps he certainly is!   SS is and always has been a HORRIBLE idea!  And now people live much longer so on average they end up receiving about three times more than they put in during their working years.  This isn’t their fault of course, it is the fault of politicians like Obama who refuse to address the issue for fear of losing a vote!   Just think about it…if your dad had not thought SS would take care of him, he would have saved and invested for his future and would be much better off in his retirement years!

        • asl3676

          He is on the public dole according to Willard Romney…

          • falling321

            I’m so sorry to hear that your dad didn’t plan for his retirement.   Too many think they can live off of SS when they retire… but I listened to the tape and didn’t get the impression Romney was talking about those on SS, he was talking about the takers…those who do not pay in for their whole lives and Obama has been very successful in producing many more of those in the last four years.  They are now holding parties at welfare offices trying to get more people in to apply, they have reduced the requirements to get medicaid and are putting people directly from unemployment over to disability in order to keep the unemployment numbers lower than they actually are.  Not sure why anyone who supports Obama would complain about Romney pointing out that Obama has actually succeeded in doing what he set out to do!

          • Ted Crawford

            That’s a silly and disingenuous response! I happen to fall into two of the groups you sad Progressives think you can decieve into believing Romney is against. I’m a disabled Veteran and a Senior Citizen!
             The difference is, appearently, that I’ve actually paid attention to the realitys of life and rejected the hype of BOTH parties.
            While I agree with an above poster, that SS was a very bad idea, still it’s a fact and we have been forced to pay into it and therefore have earned our benefits! By the way, a little history will show that for this sick idea to come into being, an entire Generation of Americans had to pass away. Wilson wanted to do something like this and that Generation told him NO, many times! If their wisdom had only extended to his other Socialistic ideas, IE: 16 & 17 Amendments, Federal Reserve, while they also rejected his idiotic idea of a League of Nations, it still became the basis of the UN, which sooner or later needs to be dismantled! 

    • Ted Crawford

      Should Americans, in their irresponsible march towards a third world economy (IE: Their own demise), re-elect Obama, the economic conditions of the 30′s will become a much sought after GOAL!

  • Brushfour

    Even when Romney takes leads in polls, no one seems to notice or care.  All you hear is ” if the Election were today, the President would most definitely win.”   All I hear from the left, and from the MS Media (one in the same), is how Romney has blown it, and it’s all over for him now.   Is this the orhestrated ” depress the vote ” effort I heard so much about would be coming this Fall?  

        Romney has sealed up all the McCain States from 2008.  He’s now put out of reach North Carolina, Indiana, and Missouri.   He’s tied or ahead in Iowa, Wisconsin, and possibly Colorado.  He’s tied or slightly behind in Ohio, Virginia, New Hampshire and Florida.  And now some new polls have indicated that he’s very close in Michigan and Pennsylvania.  Good God if the reverse were true, the MS Media, the Democrats (one in the same), would be cheering, and the Republicans would be worried sick.

  • asl3676

    Mitt Romney receives the vote support of about a third of those whose household incomes are less than $24,000 a year and of more than four in 10 seniors with low incomes — all groups who are among the least likely to pay income taxes.Read more at GALLUP.com……….I guess we know who Bernie’s audience is…

  • john nazzaro

    The polling data is very odd. As an example the percentage of “undecideds” is very low compared to a comparable time in prior campaigns.  And the Obama poll responses are  atypical; they tend to sustain regardless of externals. The MSM tank for Obama helps of course, but I am more inclined to think the polling process is being influenced by a substantial increase in  non participants- a category that polls don’t traditionally factor for in computing standard deviations. The expansion of PED’s and caller ID is subverting the traditional process: simply put the process never anticipated 7 calls per respondent (it was half that in the past). I think that means something; but  I’m not sure what. Which candidate benefits, or if/how the percentages skew remains to be determined. But in future years that non respondent ratio needs to be factored. My guess: the non responders are disproportionately “undecided” right leaning voters, and those “undecideds” are statistically irrelevant, and discounted in formulating standard deviations ( based on a historic model which is overcome by events).

    • Moldy721

      Count me in – I still have a land line and LOVE taking calls from pollsters, and LOVE telling them that I’m a union guy and will be voting straight Democrat.  Multiply that by all the other cynics out there who do the same, and the polls are full of sh*t.

      • falling321

        LOL  I take the same polls and today I told one I voted straight Dem and the other I told I vote straight Rep.   And then the ones where they call with the “we just have four questions”….I flip from one to the other everyother question.  And when they call from either party I tell them they have my vote and the vote of everyone in my house!  Breaks up my day and gives me a laugh!   There must be a lot answering the polls like I do because the Walker recall polls were off by 14%!!!!

      • Genann59

         I’m 65, have never once had any pollster call me to ask my opinion. And my numbers are out there, not unlisted.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMJUHF4UNZWSLIDRXPSSTOHA3Q Shane

    The reason that Obama is doing so well is that the corrupt MSM is in the tank for Obama; they are actively aiding Obama and hurting Romney.

  • http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Tuci78

    The truth about the Etch-A-Sketch is that those of us on the conservative side hate his guts.

    We think of him – correctly – as just another East Coast “establishment” RINO.  He’s not our friend.  He’s our enemy.

    Jeez, you want “likeable”?  Try giving Ron Paul precisely as much air time and other exposure in front of any audience of likely voters, and then test Dr. Paul’s “likeability” in comparison against both our Kenyan Keynesian and Willard the Wussy. 

    Just as I’ve watched the Republican “establishment” do in every presidential election since 1988, the Red Faction is ramming down the national throat candidates we emphatically do not want. 

    Not since Reagan has a winning Republican POTUS contender managed to eke out a genuinely significant margin of victory, even against objectively ghodawful National Socialist opponents, and it looks a helluva lot like the “establishment” wanted their candidates to lose.

    How else do you explain Bob “the Walking Corpse” Dole in ’96, John “the Enemy Ace” McCain in 2008, and now the single nominee nobody but the lamestream media wanted to see at the top of the Republican ballot this November?

    The GOP’s conservative constituencies were flagrantly screwed from start to finish in the Republican National Convention this year, and we know it.

    You think we’re going to reward you for that?

    • Drew Page

      Tuci  –  You may not have wanted Romney for the GOP nominee, but a lot of people did and voted for him in the primary.   They didn’t want Ron Paul, get over it.   So cut off your nose to spite your face and stay home on election day and watch Obama get re-elected.  That’ll show’em.

      • http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Tuci78

         Nope.  Not one goddam teensy little bit.

        When the “establishment” Republican Party goons engineered the National Convention – violating the party’s own rules to do the job – to prevent Dr. Paul’s name from being placed in nomination after the work had been legitimately done to get him past the five-state-delegation minimum, and therefore to prevent him even from speaking at the RNC (putting their machinations up on the TelePrompTers in front of Priebus and then in front of Boehner as faits accompli to deny the seated delegates even the chance to vote on these measures, idiotically failing to appreciate the fact that people were there in the center with cell phone cameras videorecording everything those two scumbuckets were reading aloud), that was the last shovelful of sh-t anybody on the American political right was ever going to take from the Red Faction.

        And have I mentioned the rules changes the “establishment” rammed through to prevent any future grassroots efforts on the part of genuine conservatives – emphasis on the TEA Party movement – ever to have any role whatsoever in the selection of Republican Party delegates to future nominating conventions?

        Look, anyone with any sort of historical literacy knows good and goddam well that the Republican Party – like the Whigs and the Federalists before them – are the party of the banksters and the politically-connected “crony” business types, the party that’s been trying to shove Henry Clay’s “American System” of pork, protectionism,  peculation, and currency counterfeiting up the national dupa ever since they slammed this charade together in the 1850s.

        Not that the National Socialist Democrat American Party (NSDAP) isn’t doing precisely the same thing, and to work even greater damage upon our republic, our society, and our economy, but you Republican jerkwads are trying to pass yourselves off as the party of conservatism, and that pretense has evaporated in the summer sun this year.

        You ain’t gettin’ away with that crap any more.

        If those of us on the conservative side aren’t going to get our way, not even four more years of the Magical Mystery Mulatto Motherporker is going to convince us to support your Mormon Meatpuppet.

        Why the hell should we do anything to install a nominal (R) on the catastrophic economic firestorm that Republican “establishment” policies have done so much to napalm down upon us?

        • falling321

          I was at one of those meetings where RP’s people stole those delegates away from the person who had won the primary…they arrived by the car load and screamed, yelled, made fools of themselves, postponed votes, faked votes, confused votes until the majority of people had to leave to go to work or relieve babysitters or just get some sleep.  I don’t feel at all sorry for RP losing those delegates that he thought he had safely stolen away from the legitimate vote winner!

          • http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Tuci78

             Yeah, they “stole” the delegate slots by using the same rules originally set up by the Republican Party weasels years ago in order to overrule the popular vote if enough of the popular vote went against their pre-selected candidate.

            The process of primary elections has always been something of a sham, with mechanisms established by each mainstream party’s real owners to make it impossible for the majority of mere private citizens to exert any control whatsoever over any aspect of the electoral system. 

            The “establishment” in the Republican Party got caught by a tide of legitimate primaries in the 1964 election cycle, and effectively threw that election to prevent Barry Goldwater – a genuine conservative – from winning the White House.  They never wanted that to happen again.

            And I’m just delighted that Dr. Paul’s supporters did the job on the one of those meetings you’d attended.  

            The Republican Party as it has operated for almost all my life (and I was in on Goldwater’s campaign) as a dedicated “big government” obstacle to the enforcement of the U.S. Constitution, and what you puking yellow-dog Red Faction partisans have gotten yourselves in this election cycle is blatantly yet another critter out of the same diseased herd.

            The role played by the Republicans today isn’t to defeat the National Socialists, but rather to foreclose real substantive opposition to measures like the recent NDAA provisions, the cancerously intrusive growth of government, the Federal Reserve System’s Weimar Republic currency counterfeiting – “Quantitative Easing” – and the general destruction of civil society in our republic.

            You’re the disease masquerading as the cure, and that’s no longer to be received as anything but sewer gas.

          • Ted Crawford

            I served for many years in the military and am a disabled veteran, with two tours of duty in Viet Nam, and I can say, without any hesitation whatsoever that the only Candidate for President more dangerous to America’s future than Obama was Ron Paul!
            His Foreign Affairs Policy was, to be very kind, delusional. His National Defense Strategy was a FATAl FLAW !  He must NEVER be allowed a position that includes any Executive Decision capacities with regards to our Defense ! 

          • http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Tuci78

             “I served for many years in the military and am a disabled veteran, with two tours of duty in Viet Nam….”

            …and yet more neocon crap about how vital it is to maintain the American Empire with garrisons all to hellangone over the world.

            So how did that undeclared half-assed micromanaged-from-Washington strategically pointless non-war in Southeast Asia work out for these United States, anyway?

            Oh, yeah.  I remember.  It resulted in Nixon – a nominal Republican president – imposing in 1971 the first peacetime wage and price controls in U.S. history, and “closing the gold window” to void the Bretton Woods Agreement (look up “Nixon Shock” sometime; I watched the rat bastid do it live on TV that hot August evening).

            That big wonderful kind-of-a-war in which you did “two tours of duty” – combined with Johnson’s “Government As Santa Claus” crap at home – bankrupted the republic.

            When you can’t pay your bills – in gold, as the Bretton Woods system required our federal government to do – and default on your debts, you’re bankrupt. 

            It happened, and ever since 1971 the U.S. dollar has gone down the drain, just like the currency of any other banana republic.

            You idiot.  The ONLY person who should presently be in the HMFIC “position that includes any Executive Decision capacities with regards to our Defense” is (not incidentally) the single guy in the Republican Party presidential race who had the highest volume of campaign contributions from U.S. military veterans and active-duty servicemen. 

            The guys on the sharp end of the stick today – not just those of us who got screwed by LBJ’s “conflict” in Viet Nam – want Ron Paul.

            Does that tell you anything, buttmunch?

    • falling321

      You poor thing!  Are you still mad that the GOP took back some of the delegates RP’s people stole from those who actually WON the primaries in every state?  Do you even know how RP got those delegates?  He bused tons of his people in to the meetings where the delegates were being selected and they yelled and screamed and screwed up the vote and postponed votes and did everything they could to disrupt things until people had to go home because they had to work or their babysitter had to leave…and then they voted themselves into the position of delegate.   Ron Paul did not earn those delegates and I have no sympathy for any of them who lost their position!

      • http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Tuci78

        Yep.  And he did it entirely within the Republican Party’s established rules.

         Those rules were set up so that the politicians who own the Red Faction (and the moneybags who rent those politicians) could cut off the expression of the popular vote in these wonderful sham primary elections that had been forced on the big bipartisan Boot On Your Neck Party decades ago in the forlorn hope that the machine bosses’ influences might be reduced.

        Tsk.  Yet another demonstration that if voting could really change anything, they’d make it illegal.

        Dr. Paul manifestly did “earn those delegates” – by working the rules as written – and your specious “sympathy” is neither sought nor received as more than purest Red Faction bullpuckey. 

        Y’know, the point of the article above is that your Massachusetts RINO really should be whupping the snot out of our Indonesian-in-Chief. 

        The screw-ups, the lies, the plain violations of law committed by Stanley Ann’s Little Mistake – and above all else, what he’s done to the national economy – make that POTUS-With-An-Asterisk far more vulnerable to defeat than Jimmy Carter had been in 1980, and your beloved Willard Mittney is showing the proof of his nonexistent mettle in yet another Republican effort to throw a national election.

        What the hell is it with you flaming fools, anyway?

        ========

        “If there were a generic one-word expression for ‘one whose fear of the uncertainties of success moves him to surrender at the very moment of victory’, it would be ‘Republican’.”

        – L. Neil Smith

        • falling321

          Funny you should ask what is wrong with us, because I have been wondering for a long, long time what is wrong with the fools who drool over RP.  If the man had a hope of being president, he would have won a state in the primary at least one of the three times he has run for president!  Don’t you even realize that he is just filling his campaign coffers?  Thank goodness he is retiring…we don’t have to listen to his foolishness any longer!  And I will give him credit for some of his financial stances, but as we can see right now…RP’s foreign policy would get more American’s killed than Obama’s has!  At least Obama has shown a little bit of guts with the drones, even if his kowtowing to the middle east has set the place on fire!

          • http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Tuci78

            “…he would have won a state in the primary at least one of the three times he has run for president!”

            Tsk.  You are an idiot.  The first time Dr. Paul had “run for president!” was in 1988, on the Libertarian Party ticket.  The LP doesn’t nominate candidates on the basis of primary elections, at taxpayer expense.

            Speaking of which, you’ll note that Dr. Paul was offered Secret Service protection during this year’s campaigning.  Stating that he didn’t want the taxpayers – who were given no choice in this matter – to get stuck with the bill, he made arrangements as a responsible citizen to handle that as just another campaign expense. 

            And, of course, the Republican Party’s presidential primary elections have been almost wholly a farce for decades. 

            In the wake of the TEA Party insurgencies during the mid-term elections of 2010 and now particularly after Dr. Paul’s shocking successes in the current presidential election cycle, the Red Faction “establishment” is scrambling to engineer the complete elimination of even any illusory capacity of the “little people” (Crash Test Johnnie McCain called ‘em “Hobbits,” and don’t that tell you everything you’ll ever need to know about what you think are supposed to be your party’s leaders in  Mordor-on-the-Potomac?) to have any effect whatsoever  on the mercantilist meatgrinder that used to be called the “GOP.”

            And yet more “We’re the Cops of the World!” neocon horsepuckey about Dr. Paul’s foreign policy predicated on the strictures of the U.S. Constitution (you want a war? DECLARE it), but which might as well have been based on the recommendations of former U.S. Marine Corps Commandant Smedley Butler (see War is a Racket, 1935):

            “War is a racket.  It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small ‘inside’ group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.”

            That from a career officer in the Naval Service, two-time Medal of Honor recipient, and retired HMFIC of the U.S. Marine Corps. 

            Adherence to the rule of law (that pesky old U.S. Constitution) is a package job.  You don’t get to pick and choose, either as a citizen or – especially – as a government employee, which parts of it you’re going to obey and which you’re “allowed” to violate.

            You want to claim that you’re a conservative?

            Fine.  Conserve the U.S. Constitution, or shut your bleeding gash.

  • bonaparte3

    When an American ambassador and three other American diplomatic personnel are murdered, the mainstream media was more focused on what Romney said about it. If a Republican president failed to act in the wake of such an incident, what do you think the media would make of that?

    • asl3676

      They would have said the same thing as they said about Bush……he’s an incompetent idiot…

      • falling321

        Indeed….Obama is a incompetent idiot!  Nicely said!

    • http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Tuci78

       Hm.  Would a Republican administration in the White House have allowed U.S. State Department facilities and personnel to have been vulnerable to such attacks in the first place?

      This kind of thing does seem to happen only when we’ve got something with a (D) squatting behind the Resolute desk in the Oval Office, doesn’t it?

  • Wheels55

    Help the stupid

  • Wheels55

    Help the poor.

    • Darwin

      Better still, feed the homeless to the hungry and solve two problems at one time.

      • NS Sherlock

        Share the wealth, you say?? Force liberals to open their homes to the homeless since they are so anxious to take care of their fellow man. Talk about the gnashing of teeth!

  • Railroad50

    It amazes me that a large part of the population does not believe that this country can go bankrupt. As we continue to spend more that we take in those depending on the Govt. handouts think that it can go on for ever.
    When one sees the current level of gun and ammo sales it is obvious that many are planing for the possibility of revolt as this country fails.

    • nobozo2012

      Twenty five years ago, I distinctly remember sitting in a classroom and the instructor laughing at the thought that a bank in Dallas could actually become insolvent.  He laughed about it and said there was no way it could happen.  And look what happened in the 80′s.  How many people even knew a large American city could go bankrupt?  I sure didn’t for a long time, but now, that’s not even big news anymore.  Then, we found out a country like Greece could go bankrupt.  Who knew?  So anyone who believes America is immune to bankruptcy is whistling past the graveyard.

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbaugh Beryl Bouknight Arbaugh

    He purposely did this to America. His way to redistribute money to the poor. He does not allow drilling here but gives money to Brazil and Mexico for us to buy from them. His way to redistribute  money to the poorer countries.Everything he has done has been planned. Dear God, he needs to be defeated, but I am so afraid he will do all in his power to make sure he wins. 

  • Phil Pada

    This is the mess that BO wanted to create. It’s how he brings the nation to its knees and retains power. He knows the dept is out of control, he has a bank account with deposits and withdrawals. He just thinks we’re all stupid – and maybe we are???

    • falling321

      All of us aren’t, but unfortunately there may finally be enough stupid people who cannot take care of themselves to vote Obama back into office.  I hope not, but I’m holding onto my money until I find out for sure!

  • Barjandor

    If the US voters re-elect this thug from Chicago, they deserve the grief that’ll follow in the next four years.    Such a shame if they don’t realize this before it’s too late.   

  • Sandwking

    JFK taught the Democrats that the American public can be bought by charisma, a pretty face and charming smile. Look at all the succeeding Democrat politicians sporting a “Kennedy hair helmet” – Kerry, Edwards, etc., all running on their looks. we were lucky in that JFK embraced many of America’s traditional values. This time, the man with the golden smile obviously does not. Americans are paying for voting based on shallow criteria.  

  • Ahalbert

    What got us into the mess primarily was Dems screwing with the housing market. Don’t assume conservatives approved of everything George W. did, but do quit the sociopathic denial of accountability since Bush. Because more than 2/3 of Americans feel they are not going to better off in the future, the country doesn’t need convincing it is in terrible shape. It just needs to objectively consider Obama’s failed leadership for what it is.

  • brendan horn

    I think what is currently helping Obama is the ridiculous notion that has come out in the past couple of weeks that Obama is working on an economy for the new century. His main advocate for this notion is a president from last century. They have put the idea out there that what worked last century will not work in this century. The theory is that Obamanomics has failed for four years, but it will kick in, maybe not within his presidency, but surely  in a decade or so. The claim is that trickle down economics is a thing of the past; the trendy thing now is Obama’s take-down (or perhaps “shake-down”) economics. It has not worked in any century, but lets give it a try. Obama has moved from “yes we can”, to “no we could’nt”  and it has not seemed to hurt him at all. He seems to defy gravity.

  • http://shawmut.blogspot.com/ Dave O’Connor

    My take is that American voters have been going, willfully and with full consent of thier will, for the devil they know than with the faith they’ve trashed. The country has embraced a developing Hell, each voter hoping his level will be the prettiest.
    Attributed to (I think Dante, maybe Milton); ‘The darkest corenr of Hell will be find those, who recognizing evil, chose to do nothing.’ (sic)
    Of course, this theme has been exploited by Burke and others, but – worthy of thought.
    Anyone remember Job?  He was run all around by his friends.  All the tiime he had such an intimate relationship with God that they could argue with each other without alienation.

  • Nealhixon

    Obama’s lead at this point isn’t so mysterious. Any incumbent in a presidential election who isn’t ahead at this point by at least 5 points is almost unheard of. As bad as as this administration has been on almost all fronts I’m surprised Obama lead isn’t more. Romney does need to be confident, on message and an inspiration to the “middle class.” He should stop running away from his success.

  • Roger

    If the media did their job, we wouldn’t be in this mess. They don’t report what’s going on and chase every single dramatic story like the video of Mitt. I’m sick of it. They never question BO but attack Mitt like he’s a child molester. I’m sick of it.

    • asl3676

      If your sick of it and have medical insurance then go see your doctor….If not get over it….

    • Moldy721

      Why is there never a protest in front of the NYT or any of the other media outlets?  Why aren’t their offices ever the target of “terrorist” attacks.  Maybe we could let the Muslims know that the MSM are the ones who created the “evil video” and have them do the work tea partiers want done,  but who are not committed enough to their cause to do themselves.

  • Troy Phillips

    “No conspiracy to hurt Romney, just bad science”. ARRRRGGGHHHHH! Really Bernard? That might even top the “well, he’s a nice guy but (fill in the blank). 

  • Sally

    And if Americans think with their heads not “black president” again like last time. I know Republicans who voted for Obama last time who, after seeing the horrible job he’s done, would not touch him with a 10 foo pole and are desperate for him to lose.

    • venter

      I agree with you . I also believe everyone  wanted the best for him . We HOPED   he could get the job  done for all Americans.  We wanted him to get us on the RIGHT track.  However he went LEFT .  And it’s not working.  Security, economy. unemployment all in Bad trouble.   It   may have been too soon for him. 

  • mykhel

    it is a damned shame that  with so much that is wrong with this country which ties directly to Barrack Obama and his policies  that we are depending on a base turnout to defeat this incompetent mesmerizer.   To think that Romney is not trouncing   BHO in the polls says there is either something seriously wrong with Mitt Romney and the Republican party or there is something insidiously adrift with what we think of as traditional American values. 

    Yes,  I do think the traditional American values of hard work, self reliance, fair play and individualism are being eroded from a liberal version of doublespeak. Hard work is now greed. Individualism is  selfishness.   Fair play has come to  mean the government has legitimate lien on the fruit of your labor.  This is not traditional America, but traditional America is what Romney is selling.  The question is are there enough  buyers. 

    But more than anything the Republican party must take a lot of the blame.  The media has abused, misrepresented, suppressed and omitted the Republican message and the the Republican leadership have done little to combat the perversion of that message. When one of the daily media abuses surfaces I often wonder what would happen if this was happening to the Democrats.  Would there be the same silence , the same feeble effort to turn the message around and get out their story?

     The answer is unequivocal.  The answer in NO! They would fight tooth-and-nail.   No doubt about it.  They would fight.  Hard.  Constantly.

    And they would win.

    In refusing to fight–loud, often, confidently–Republican have ceded the argument and have allowed liberals and the liberal media to seize the narrative.  Figuratively speaking, most of America is tuned to the same station and many of them don’t realize they are listening to a continuous subliminal commercial that is selling an ideology.    If the Republicans lose this election, as much as anything else, it will be because they were no-shows in the war of messaging, the war of ideas.  

    And should he lose, I won’t blame Romney.  In what should be a slam-dunk election he starts out an underdog.  He is not just in a political battle with Obama.  His underdog status was determined long ago.  The Republican party saw to that.

    • Troy Phillips

       That second paragraph was golden. Well said!

      • mykhel

         Thank you for taking the time for comment.  Nice of you.

  • James King

    I sure do think you are on the wrong track, and remember this. Had the election gone just a couple of weeks longer, Humprey might just have won that election. American’s are not well-informed enough to vote for substance, which is why likeability always wins. When you don’t know or don’t care to be informed, and that is at least 50% of the population, then you vote for looks, smile, and if you would like to have a beer with the guy. In that instance Obama wins, even with me and I sure as hell won’t vote for him. The reason I would like to have a beer with him is to find out if he really believes the swill he speaks or if he is just another Marx.

    I think he is just another Marx with millions of useful idiots at his beck and call. But in this election Obama wins, Romney and America lose. It will be the final nail in the America coffin.

  • TransplantedTexan

    Romney is simply another political class professional politician who thinks that government is the solution rather than the problem. He won the Republican nomination because he was the least weak of an extremely poor group of candidates. Grass roots Republicans were desperate for a stronger candidate as evidenced by the different number of front-runners during the nomination process and the fact that he rarely could muster a majority vote in the primaries. If there had been a half-way decent alternative that the grass roots could have coalesced around, Romney would now be a dim memory. His campaign is lackluster and seems to be running not to lose rather than to win. It ought to be a campaign about values, culture and the role of government. Unfortunately, Romney cannot articulate those things because he is not that philosophically different from Obama. The only thing that he has going for him is that he is not Barak Obama. That is enough for me to vote for him, but I do not think it is an election winning strategy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NFY76ZLF3EWV6UNTVVUTL7LP74 Dennis

    Obama and his dumb Greek columns say it all.  

  • venter

    I like Mickey Mouse, Disney Princesses, Meryl Streep, Clint Eastwood.  Would I want them to be President .   Noooooooooo  because the country has  Mr. Likeable in office now,   We have to try and give someone else the job of turning around this mess ( inherited from  Bush ha).  Maybe a thinking businessman would work.  Someone who sometimes makes  mistakes speaking (like most of us) .  We should consider a man that has started a business. came up from the bottom and knows  how to keep people working.  Why would we want that?  A man a who spoke out  on 9/11 after terrorist bombed us a second time..  Someone had to spesk  because the President was at a fund raiser.  Was it perfect no and if what he said was was perfect the MSM would have turned it around.  The polls make me wonder.  This is not a popularity contest and I have to believe , when people go in to vote they will ask themselves do I want alot of likeable talk  or a likeable paying job? 

  • gbandy

    The overall notion of Obama inheritted a mess is old news. But to whom did this mess originate? The fact that the entire Congress was owned by the Democrats since 2006 run by the likes of Pelosi seems to vanish from the Left’s memories. So trillions of spending later, double gas prices, highest debt in history, and the largest group of absolutely “clueless” supporters Obama still has a strong base of voters still believing anything from his mouth.  This is sad news to this Nation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Chernicoff/1384187940 Joe Chernicoff

    I do not believe that, if Obama wins this election, he wil b e particularly stressed by the position in which the country finds itself. Not because he doesn’t care, but because this is what he wants, taking his world  view rather than American view  political belief.   His talk about leveling the playing field, America’s consumption of goods higher than its percentage of  worldwide population, his father’s ‘Dream’ of anti-colonialism, his somewhat indoctrination of Muslim concepts while attending school in Indonesia, his lack of pro-Western foreign policy, his belief that America is not exceptional, and what that means,  and on and on, are all factual signs of what he really looks to do. Another four year term would really finish off the greatness of this country, leaving us way behind the BRIC countries.

    I believe that even Fareed Zakaria, who wrote about the emerging world leadership of BRIC, but who stated that America would play a major role -  a needed one – would be appalled by that result. Of course, those comments contained in his book, the Post American World, was published  prior to Obama’s election.

  • Jeff

    I think Romney needs just one more thing to help him make inroads with fly over America.  He should drop Paul Ryan and bring Sarah Palin on board.  This would help him with the voters who only understand people who speak in run on sentences.  Maybe she could help by holding a press conference stating he “PalsAroundWithTerrorists”.  These are the voters Romney’s missing.

    • Ahalbert

       Were you strange in high school?

      • Jeff

        Actually quite strange.  Growing up in Coney Island, I never met a Republican…..let alone a Conservative, until the military.  I learned a lot about people during those years…67-73…mostly I learned the difference between good and evil.  I come to Bernie’s blog to get my fill of the latter.

        • nobozo2012

          If you’ve palled around with democrats all your life, your socialist leanings were instilled in you early in life.  This is probably not the best site for you.  I might suggest CNN, MSNBC, Huffington Post, etc.  You’ll feel right at home on those.  Over there, the people who actually create the wealth and fuel the economy are demonized and called greedy.  The poor are poor because of the wealthy.  You’ll have a ball over there.

  • IReportUDecide

    Okay, so Obama inherited a mess. WE GET THAT. What I don’t understand is why Bill Clinton gets a complete pass for the two major crises that he passed on to George Bush (and which, by the way, Bush never once pinned on Clinton where they belonged):

    1) The foreclosure mess and economic meltdown that Obama likes to blame on Bush was the natural and unavoidable result of CLINTON forcing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to loosen lending standards during his second term because home ownership was deemed to be a human rights rather than a fiscal issue. What did we *think* was going to happen when we allowed unemployed people to buy $500,000 homes?

    2) Don’t forget that the rise of Al Qaeda as well as the conception, funding and planning of the September 11th attacks all occurred under Clinton’s watch. If he wasn’t so busy chasing interns and groping star-struck lobbyists, and rather addressed the growing and known problem of the terrorists who were training and plotting in Afghanistan to kill us, there would never had been a 9/11!

    I’m sick of our current Whiner in Chief, who can only complain about the hand he was dealt. Someone that vapid and incompetent could *only* make it as a politician, because he would surely be fired from any corporation that has expectations that you can actually do something!

    • asl3676

      Good to see Republicans remain the party of personal responsibility….Clinton is responsible for 9/11 and the housing collapse…. Who is responsible for lying the country into war, creating huge deficits and the collapse of the banking system…oh i forgot…FDR

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NFY76ZLF3EWV6UNTVVUTL7LP74 Dennis

        “Who is responsible for lying the country into war, creating huge deficits and the collapse of the banking system.”  Lying the country into war would be the intelligence community at the time that said all things led to So Damned Insane (Saddam Hussein) having WMD’s.  Indeed, he used chemical warfare on his own people in the north.  Why now, is Syria thought to have chemical weapons and everyone afraid they’ll fall into the hands of these jihadists.  Where do you think the chemicals came from?? Hellooooooo Kitty……, maybe Iraq. As for collapse of the banking system.  The Congress of the US, when this happened was controlled by your beloved Democraps.  They, and especially they bear most of the responsibility for the housing collapse and the first domino that caused the banking collapse.

        • asl3676

          So now you believe that we went to war with Iraq because they has chemical weapons? Not quite what Bush and Cheney were selling at the time….As to the housing bubble blame who you will but the major cause of the problem was Wall Street greed and abuse someting which Republicans don’t believe in regulating…
            If you’d like to read some books on the subject I’d be happy to refer some to you…

          • Wheels55

            Clinton deregulated. Now he says that evil Republicans want to deregulate.
            I agree with Wall Street greed, but Clinton’s deregulation was the seed (unintended I know).

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cathy-Sapp/100000449455592 Cathy Sapp

            Yes went to war with Iraq because they supposibly had WMD,  one of which could have been chemicals.  Mustard gas is a chemical weapon, which can cause massive deaths.
            And Yes Wall Street NEEDS to be regulated to avoid another massive economic meltdown.

          • asl3676

            Well it turned out that they didn’t have WMD’s so Bush killed hundreds of thousands and spent billions of dollars mistakingly….It is incredible that you’re still defending Bush…..hard to argue with irrationality…

          • Jeffreydan

            “As to the housing bubble blame who you will but the major cause of the problem was Wall Street greed and abuse someting which Republicans don’t believe in regulating…” 
              Nice try, but this is another thing you won’t be able to sell here. Assuming you aren’t aware that democrats uniformly balked at the GOP’s continued efforts to address the subprime mortgage issue, VIA NEW REGULATION, do your homework next time. If you are aware, then just admit the truth.
             
              Don’t worry, there are probably plenty of other sites out there with people gullible enough to believe you.

        • Bob Hadley

          GW Bush and his administration were pushing the idea that Iraq had a nuclear program that was close to completion and that he had delivery systems capable of reaching the US.  Yellow cake, aluminum tubes, etc….

          Their famous refrain was that the if we wait for a smoking gun it may come in the form of a mushroom cloud.    Many babyboomers I’ve talked to have said that this talk was scary.

          No, they never said there was an imminent threat, just a clear and gathering threat.

          I think the Bush administration was so gung ho on selling the war that they seized on anything they thought wopuld close the deal.  Was that lying?  It depends on what your definition of “is” is.

          • Jeffreydan

              President Bush didn’t lie anyone into war, and it cracks me up that democrats haven’t given up tossing that accusation around.

              Based on what the left stooped to for most of Bush’s 8 years, it’s easy to argue that if the USA stayed out of Iraq, he’d be hated for that.    

          • Bob Hadley

            “President Bush didn’t lie anyone into war, and it cracks me up that democrats haven’t given up tossing that accusation around.”

            If Pres. GW Bush  and his minions didn’t lie when selling us on the war, they dissembled.  Again whether or not they lied depends on what your definition of “is” is.

            And, yes, many in the Democratic Congress allowed themselves to be bulldozed into rubber-stamping the war. 

      • Roger

        Sorry, Clinton left Bush a deficit. The media is lying to you, as usual. I lost a a majority of my 401K in 1999 when the market crashed.

        • asl3676

          If you invested the bulk of your 4o1K in tech stocks you are the fool….BTW….what market crashed in 1999?  Did I miss it?

  • Pasquale7

    Hi Bernie, I think Romney is running a worse campaign than even John McCain.  He has not been able to explain HOW in a campaign manner, which a candidate MUST do.  Sorry, Mitt, but you need to learn from Obama, HOPE and CHANGE, something that sticks with people.  Mitt may not like it, but a famous man once said, “Sorry I wrote such a long letter but I did not have time to write a short one.”  That is the reality of a political campaign.   You need to hire people who have run campaigns before it is too late.  I am one of those 47%, I am on Social Security and Medicare  but I would rather have two root canals before voting for Obama.  I did not pay income tax last year but that does not make me a dead beat.  Think before you open your mouth.  You should WANT to preach to those “other people.”  Take up the challenge and stop making stupid comments.  Obama scares me.  I am depressed that he won last time and will really be depressed with four more years of destructive policies that are destroying what made this country great.

    • Ahalbert

      Yes, Ob knows how to manipulate people (since that’s what it takes) and Romney apparently doesn’t. I would point out that the “stupid remarks” are being promoted as such by the media. Example…Romney makes a comment about Olympic security and it’s a huge foreign policy gaffe. Ob leaves our embassies vulnerable, allowing Americans to be killed, claims it isn’t a terrorist action against the U.S…and the media wants to focus on Romney’s opinion of that.

  • IJustSpeakTheTruth

    Wow Bertha – 9 misspellings in 3 sentences. I guess we know what the Obama demographic is. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NFY76ZLF3EWV6UNTVVUTL7LP74 Dennis

    where’d you learn to spell dufus??  Public schools?? 

    • Alden514

      I was thinking the same thing, Dennis!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NFY76ZLF3EWV6UNTVVUTL7LP74 Dennis

    The headline said it all Bernie.  If he thinks he inherited a mess 4 yrs ago, WHAT kind of job would he do with his OWN mess that his idiotic, downright stupid policies have actually doubled the mess he has to deal with now.  I’ll tell you what, if Romney gets elected and can get us out of this quagmire (which I think he can), he will be viewed as the new Reagan.  I know he can economically.  I am almost betting he is counting on the boosting employment and the economy and being energy independent by having the oil and gas industry do most of the heavy lifting, which is fine with me, in that I live in Alaska.  We know we can do our share and 65% of the population in Alaska WANTS to help US help ourselves.  Like Rubio said “we need more taxpayers”. What we do NOT need is more people sucking off the govt teat.

  • AML

    this “likeability factor” never fails to blow me away…why would anyone choose someone they’d feel more comfortable having a beer with than someone who is “not so likable” but is actually qualified for the job?
    While I’m not (or ever have been) the biggest Mitt Romney fan, he does have a sterling background in business (as Clinton pointed out) and the economy should take top priority.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NFY76ZLF3EWV6UNTVVUTL7LP74 Dennis

      Totally agree!!

    • Ahalbert

       Unfortunately, lots of things are decided on likeability, and a good percentage of job promotions. I think an affirmative action sentiment is also at work.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cathy-Sapp/100000449455592 Cathy Sapp

      No one currently living is qualified to be president, except a Former President, ie Carter, Bush Sr, Bush Jr and Clinton and out of those 3 only Carter could run because he is the only one still living that only served 1 term…….A president gets qualified ON THE JOB!  We really do need a president that has run a business and who doesn’t want to take the salary that goes with being president, since his business is still paying his bills…..Like Ross Perot wanted to in the 90′s.

  • BerthaLovesRickALOT

    Obamas’ polices do to work its just headwins. Rommey will loose! Your a bigget and your poles are rasist!

    • deny916

      Did you mean bigot???????

      • BerthaLovesRickALOT

        Your mean you bigget!

        • deny916

          BWHAAAAAAAAAAA! 

          • Alden514

            What I think she meant was “you’re mean, you bigot!”
            …Don’t even get me started on the original post! LOL!!!

  • Johnny Deadline

    Re:  a second O’Drama term:  I think not based on $5 trillion more in debt, 8.1% unemployment, 47 million people on food stamps, nearly 50% of Americans not paying any federal tax, 50% collecting some form of monthly entitlement, $4 a gallon gas and a Democratic Senate that hasn’t passed a budget in over 1,200 days.  If Obama wins with those numbers he should move the White House to Las Vegas and open up a magic act ala Siegfried & Roy.   (He could call it Zeitgeist & Fraud)  Why not? He’s certainly made our national economy,  innate optimism and the world respect for us disappear.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cathy-Sapp/100000449455592 Cathy Sapp

      Most of those 50% collecting “monthly entitlements” are folks that retired after MANY YEARS of paying into the entitlement program known as SOCIAL SECURITY.  If Romney gets in more jobs with be lost to offshore/outsourcing.  Don’t be fooled by his promises, he may have made the Olympics in SLC a success, but what sporting events isn’t?  Especially when it invovles the world.

      • Johnny Deadline

        Medicaid, food stamps and disability payments have skyrocketed under Obama, so while Medicare and Social Security make up a substantial part of entitlement spending, much of the increase in households on government assistance have nothing to do with retirees collecting Social Security or Medicare.  The concern of most voters Nov 6 has more to do with the large number of jobs lost domestically under Obama (including 1 million jobs held by women) rather than the few jobs lost from outsourcing and investments held in offshore accounts.  This election is about the takers vs the makers and until Obama came to Washington the makers have always been the majority.  Whether or not that remains the case is really what this election is about. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M2DZC47FS7SG7JVPBTKDORBAAQ NotFondOfLibs

    Re-electing Obama would be similar to the Captain of the Titanic turning his ship around and hitting the iceberg again.  Obama’s policies are not improving the economy one bit, despite all the cheerleading going on.  Bernanke’s QE3 is just going to create more inflation for Americans especially at the supermarket.  One of the first things Mr. Romney must do is replace Bernanke.

    • Ahalbert

       It’s very weird that Bernanke is a Republican.

  • rbblum

    Why not complete the thought?  If Obama thinks he inherited a mess four years ago, why not open his own eyes and see the mess he has created with his cronies and czars.

    Item #2:  Awaiting the movie (Zero Dark Thirty) about the US killing of Osama bin Laden . . .  just to see the further global effect of Obama’s presidential accomplishments.

  • asl3676

    The beginning of Bernie’s concession speech….Now he’ll have to come up with the proper excuses as to why Romney would have won if he had just listened to Bernie Goldberg and his boss O’Reilly…

  • Ron

    I don’t get it!  The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over again and expect a different outcome.  To vote Obama in for a second time is simply INSANE.  We will not get anything different.  When will we wake up and stop being so selfish and think of our children and gran children and their children not yet born and who already owe the Obama Government hundreds of thousands of dollars.  When the Chinese are at our door step taking back “their” country, then it will be too late to say:  “I should have voted for the Romney / Ryan Team.

    Obama is like a kid in a candy store.  He wants it all and he has taken it all at OUR expense.  Nearly 17 TRILLION dollars in debt and you ant to re-elect him?  Are you kidding?  Get out of the fog … smell the flowers while there are still some to enjoy.
    Stop kidding yourself, Obama is for Obama is for Obama is for Obama and could give a damn about you or me.

    President Romney will not be able to clean up the mess made by Obama, but he will make a valiant effort and will be much better than the man who sits in the Oval Office today.  Please, please … this election is about what you will leave for those who are not yet born and it must be more than Obama can ever offer.  A vote for Obama is a wasted vote. 

    Vote for truth, for honesty, for change for God’s sake … Vote for Romney.

    • asl3676

      I guess you didn’t vote for Bush a second time….How did that work out for you?

      • Ahalbert

         He would have a different answer to that than you…and your answer doesn’t matter.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cathy-Sapp/100000449455592 Cathy Sapp

      It was almost as bad a deficit when Regan won a 2nd term and the same deficit was doubled by Bush Sr…….And you think Romney will reduce the it?  Not according to his record in MA……he left that state in a complete mess.

  • Mjakeb123

    :Likeable or not, the man scares me.  He inherits the mess he’s created and what happens to our Great Country USA?

  • Faitgar

    Why am I getting these email from this senile MF. The President is going to win much easier than 2008 so yo can write all the crap you want it  will not help one bit it is all over landslide. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M2DZC47FS7SG7JVPBTKDORBAAQ NotFondOfLibs

      Thanks for the vulgar comments pal.  I guess that’s what an Obama supporter has to resort to when he has nothing else to offer with the exception of the race card.   So, did you get out your Ouija board again to conclude that Obama will win or just wash down another gallon of koolaid?

      • Pasekfred

        Funny, the latest Gallup that came out today has Obama up by 1 point among REGISTERED voters. That means Romney’s up by 3 or 4 among LIKELY voters. If it’s a landslide, it’ll be a Romney landslide, no matter now hard the ABC’s and CNN’s try to distort the news to Obama’s benefit. The economy sucks. People aren’t listening to the media, they’re checking their own wallets.

        • Faitgar

          haaaa haaaa haaa haaaaa what garbage.

      • Faitgar

        If the republicans had any chance of wining the would put up a real candidate not this clown Romney but all the rest were scared because  they know they have no chance   

  • Pasekfred

    Funny that we no longer hear from those who lectured those of us who wanted someone like Newt who’d articulate an attack and generate passion because they said the Dems would make the election about the candidate rather than the issues. Well, they made it about the candidate anyway, and Romeny’s too weak to force the spotlight back on the issues. He didn’t inspire passion during the primary, so anyone who keeps expectign him to inspire passion now metter wake up. He will sit back and let the MSM drag him over the coals over every little B.S. pickiune thing and ignore the debt and the joblessness and the Middle East blowing up, because that’s who he is. Well, those of you who wanted Romney, here we are. Don’t wanna say we told you so, but…

  • Renabuz

    Any Jew who votes for Obama richly deserves the destruction of the American way of life that is the very reason he is even alive let alone able to vote. If only all of the blind stupid fools who would put that bum back in office could alone be the recipients of his ill intended, vicious policies but, unfortunately, those of us whose heads aren’t engaged in an up close examination of our sigmoid areas are going to go down with them. 

    • asl3676

      Well I guess 70% of us Jews are blind stupid fools…..Thanks for the bigotry…

      • Ahalbert

        Saying that Jews are being foolish is not bigotry. A Jew would be able to make that distinction. I am Jewish, and if I look at Mr. Obama’s attitude toward Israel/Jews objectively, I can never vote for him. According to Gallup, 63% of Republicans support the survival of Israel, and only 31% of Democrats do. Perhaps something for a Jew to think about.

        • asl3676

          I’d love to know what poll you’re citing…31% of Dems support the survival of Israel?  I’ll be anxiously awaiting to see the Gallup poll you cite…..Shanah Tovah..

      • Brett

        Hey moron. He didn’t say Jews were blind and stupid, he said those 70%,who would vote for Oblahblahblah, are.That’s what you bleeding heart liberals do ALL the time. Twist a statement into a pretzel to make it come out as you want it to be. Not as it truthfully is. You are smug, self righteous and outrageously oblivious to the incompetence of the WIC. (Whiner-in-chief). It saddens me that so much of Middle America can be duped by such a smooth talking incompetent. Frankly, it’s stunningly sad. Pay attention to all that is NOT going on around you, America. 

        • asl3676

          You are absolutely correct…Only 70% of we Jews are blind and stupid…forgive my stupidity….

  • http://blog.cyberquill.com/ Cyberquill

    Unfortunately for Romney, this time around there’s no Ralph Nader to split the liberal vote. 

  • sendtheclunkerbacktochicago

    I will not let Bernie Goldberg and those at Fox off the hook for their complete silence concerning the fraudulent and criminal activity that has been carried out by Barack Hussein Obama and his enablers.  When we have folks like Lord Charles Monckton, Diana West, Frank Gaffney, Jack Cashill, multiple high ranking retired military officers, career law enforcement officers, major career document experts, life long private investigators, Israeli scientists, etc examining the April 27th, 2011 computer generated birth certificate and declaring the document a FORGERY, there is NO EXCUSE for Bernie or the journalist at FOX for ignoring the evidence.  Their asses are covered with all these credible people ready to back them up if they did choose to expose this Fraud in Chief.   The fraudulent activity makes the man a Criminal in Chief.  The birth certificate is forged, the Selective Service registration is a forgery and the man’s SS# was flagged by E-Verify and proven to be fraudulent.  All the evidence points in one direction, the man has created the scandal of the century and because of men like Bernie and those journalist at Fox he is getting away with it.  

    We can throw in some of the more popular Conservative bloggers, columnists and radio talk show hosts  into this cowardly bunch also (Malkin, Coulter, Ingraham, Limbaugh, etc).  These folks will mock and complain about Barack Hussein Obama EVERY damn day but when it comes to putting the boot on his damn neck they act like cowards.  These same folks praise our soldiers who are willing to take a bullet for their country but these folks will not lift a finger to expose these brave men and women’s Commander in Chief.  Shame on them, they put their careers ahead of their country, complete opposite of what our troops are all about. 

    We can throw our Republican representatives into the cowardly bunch.  Senator Coburn promised he would investigate this criminal activity and it seems he is now backing off.  Many, many of our Republican representatives have been hand delivered enough evidence to force an investigation into this fraud but they refuse to act.  We have judges in Obama ballot disputes accepting a forged birth certificate as proof of eligibility.  Would you get away with that type of activity if you were applying for a drivers license?   All I can say is that Bernie and Fox and all the others will have a lot of explaining to do when this all ends up in the news cycle someday.  

    • Fpmtg1

      FOX??????????????????????????????????? What about the mainstream Media?????????????????????????????? Honestly Sendthecluncker.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • FPMTG1

        OBVIOUSLY YOU DON’T LISTEN TO FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU LIVE ON THIS PLANET???????????

    • asl3676

      Talk about Angry Old Haters….this type of rant is the best example of why Romney will lose…This type of hate has become the Republican base…How sad

  • Wheels55

    The likeability factor is huge. We live in an American Idol type society. Popular is voted, tweeted, Facebooked, etc. constantly. People under age 30 are conditioned to think this way. It is no surprise that this factor rules decisions in elections. Also, people think of the economy like they think of math – not interesting. So, the question of “are you better off now than four years ago” may not be enough for Romney. He had better learn to sing and dance too.

    • asl3676

      Your superiority complex is showing….no wonder you like Romney…

  • apb

    I know Romney’s a better man, but the contrarian in me hopes for an Obama victory; it ties in with Mr. Goldberg’s last thought – ”
    Wait till he sees the mess he inherits this time if he wins.”  

    We all know that printing $trillions will bring big inflation; rates will rise, the currently under-employed and unemployed college grads will have zero opportunities for work, let alone careers; anyone left with adjustable rate mortgages will walk away from their homes; staple and fuel prices will push out all other purchases.  

    I want this financial mess to crash right down on those responsible – and we all know damn well that if Romney were elected, the blame will absolutely fall on him; I would rather see that albatross around King Putt’s neck.

    • asl3676

      “I know Romney’s a better man…”   You know that how? What an absurd statement…

      • Jeffreydan

          I couldn’t agree more. The statement implies that Obama is a man.

        • asl3676

          Sorry.. I forgot.. you call Obama a boy…

          • Jeffreydan

              ”I asked a simple question and you start with the personal insults…  When you start getting personal it usually means that you’ve lost the argument.”
             
              When you pull the race card, it means you not only lost the argument, but you have a petrifying fear of the ass-kicking you’re certain to get in a real discussion. 
              Don’t think you’re in a position to lecture others, son. You haven’t earned it.   

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NFY76ZLF3EWV6UNTVVUTL7LP74 Dennis

          Yes Jeff, we do need some adults in the WH.  Coming soon in January.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NFY76ZLF3EWV6UNTVVUTL7LP74 Dennis

        Because Romney’s a capitalist and Obama is a stupid Socialist… that’s why.
        God are you not the sharpest knife in the drawer. 

        • asl3676

          So Socialists are stupid and capitalists are smart? Any other brilliant thoughts?

          • Ahalbert

             Yes, Dennis left out envious.

      • Brett

        The absurdity is YOU making that self righteous comment, when all YOU do is extol the virtues  of the WIC. (Whiner-in-chief), or attempt to ridicule and downplay Romney’s abilities and credentials. Every time you comment on this site you strenghten the belief of most, that you have a misguided sense of self and really have no concept of the state of this Union. You  blow it out your ass. Save it. Winter is coming and you’ll need the heat source.

        • asl3676

           I asked a simple question and you start with the personal insults…  When you start getting personal it usually means that you’ve lost the argument….If Romney told me how he’s going to create jobs, improve the economy or do anything I and others might reconsider our votes….He  is not going to win because he is not Obama….

          • Brett

            You call another’s phrase absurd and I’m the one getting personal and losing an argument! There was no argument on my part. You sir, are shadow boxing. Romney has in fact made several comments, albeit , in general terms,on  how he will solve your stated issues. If he gets specific, WIC and his minions will take and apply them as their own, expecting to then be coronated.
            Oblahblahblah has screwed up for 45 months, so we can wait 5 weeks for Romney to begin a process of recovery due to the WIC’s incompetence.

          • asl3676

            I’m an attorney and a trained shadow boxer….LOL
            By the way…what does WIC stand for?

          • asl3676

            As an experienced attorney I am a well trained shadow boxer…LOL
            By the way, what does WIC stand for?

        • http://profiles.google.com/guyicap Guy Capparelli

          Don’t try to convince a hardnosed democrat. He doesn’t know how to think by himself. This will be the biggest slaughter that the democrat party ever took. Even democrats in congress will vote him out.  American blood still flows through the american people. Even democrats know what obama is trying to do to America. Obama is a muslim that wants sharia law and to kill all Americans. They found out ,but to late, but they are not stupid and will not let America fall.THIS, I truly believe. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M2DZC47FS7SG7JVPBTKDORBAAQ NotFondOfLibs

      It is outrageous to support someone who is going to lead this country to economic collapse with policies that didn’t work for Franklin Roosevelt in the 1930s and are not working now and never will.  You are an idiot,

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cathy-Sapp/100000449455592 Cathy Sapp

        Didn’t work for FDR…..If I have studied my history right it was Hoover that was President in 1929 when the stock market crashed, and FDR was the President when we started bouncing back from that….but then again he had the COOPERATTION of CONGRESS and that is why our economy came back stronger and he was Presiden for 4 terms, that was before term limits….. Then of couse then we were thrust into WWII by the attack of the Japanese on Pearl Harbor.  

    • Ahalbert

       As Madeline Albright said recently, Libs will never stop blaming Bush. As blaming others is their greatest skill, Obama would never incur responsibility for anything. We’ll all be assured our “fair share” of his bad results.

  • kayakbob

    Bernie,

    Perhaps I do underestimate the likeability factor because I really don’t care how likeable a President is. I am only concerned with his fundamental thought process and the prism through which he views America,  Americans (not the same thing) and our place in the world.  I couldn’t care less about how likeable he…or she, is.  In that I might be out of the “mainstream”. (good for me)

    As for polling, I do think much of the polling is bias, just like the vast majority of the media. As for ‘conspiracy’, I think it depends on your definition of the term. If you are saying all these polling outfits get together and hash out a false poll, I doubt it. I suspect they slant their polling demographic toward Democrats – because..after all..anyone not a Democrat is stupid, and probably racists. Right? Conspiracy?  You tell me.

    I am not saying Romney will win in a landslide, or even win at all. I just think the polling is suspect, so I don’t let it influence my thinking.

    • asl3676

      You know there is treatment for paranoia? Hopefully it is covered under Medicare…..

  • asl3676

     As Romney believes people on Social Security and who don’t pay income taxes are losers with no sense of personal responsibility I guess all of the seniors who follow Bernie will finally figure out that neither Romney or Goldberg could care less about your interests…STOP SPONGING OFF THE GOVERNMENT….

    • sendtheclunkerbacktochicago

      There is not ONE thing in the Romney/Ryan plan for SS and Medicare that will change anything for those old folks like myself and my wife.  Our benefits will continue to flow.  Romney/Ryan are trying to save the benefits for those under 50.  When you move people who have run out of their 99 weeks of unemployment onto the SS roles there is no way in hell that it can maintain itself.   Now we find out that 25% of those being moved onto the SS disability roles should have NEVER qualified points to very deep corruption in that system.   So asl3676 it is this Fraud in Chief that doesn’t give a crap about you, not Romney/Ryan.  The Republicans want to FIX the problem not sustain the unsustainable.  

      • asl3676

        If you read the story on SSI Disability you would note that this has been going on for many years so stop blaming Obama….Among the reasons for the increase are returning soldiers who now claim disability for PTSD.  

    • Wheels55

      Did Romney actually say those people have no personal responsibility? He used those words exactly? It seems to me that he meant the 47%, those who do not pay income tax, are getting something for nothing. I doubt that those people are irresponsible just because they are not required to pay income tax and the system allows them to get free stuff. Do you agree?

      • asl3676

        I agree but Romney was just reciting conservative dogma….Romney is a poor excuse for a candidate….

  • Johnmarzan

     the DNC convention speakers, especially Clinton, have managed to convince most of public that Dems inherited financial catastrophe from GOP and that public should not blame them for not fixing the mess fast enough.

    Romney misread the 2010 elections. the midterm elections werent about the economy (most voters still blame bush for that at that time), it was about overspending and increasing the size of government (obamacare, stimulus).  That’s what the tea party was all about. Of course, romney can say that the economy is not recovering fast enough because of obama’s big government quasi socialist policies.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PPL2AXPXJMWPEJWFN34MPC5RNY terry

    UNEMPLOYMENT SKY HIGH, DEBT  $ 16 TRIL,  HOME FORECLOSES UP,  OBAMACARE HIGH PRICES, MIDDLE EAST ON FIRE,  MR OBAMA WHAT SHALL WE
    DO ? 
    LETS STOP FOR A GREASY BURGER & THEN PLAY 18 HOLES.

  • jdubya_az

    So you are saying that regardless, those who are dyed-in-the-wool Democrats would not leave their home/apartment/van/rock to vote, whereas Republicans stayed home back in 2008?. I know a lot of people who voted for Obama that now regretted their decision mainly from the pathetic job he has conducted over this term. I also know a lot of people who will vote regardless for their party of choice, contantly and religiously; on both sides of the spectrum.

    Most of them did not like McCain as they equated him to Bush (that was a great strategy by Obama and company) and are on the ledge regarding this election. That concerns me more than your comments about Florida, hispanics, and Jewish voters.

    What I find more strange is that, here in AZ, all the people the catagorizers and compartmentalizers on the left decree as “hispanic” or “latino” are all pretty conservative and vote traditionally Republican. I know I see people on TV who stand as liberal, but I know a lot of people with this blood and not one is “on the left”.

    • sendtheclunkerbacktochicago

      There will be a record number of Republicans voting in the 2012 election.  There is a huge ground swell going on behind the scenes with Tea Party activists.  Donald Duck could be running against this Fraud in Chief and he would draw record numbers of Republicans.  It is ANYBODY BUT OBAMA.  We got our 4 year dose of the Marxist/Communist/Radical Progressive plot and nightmare, that is all one needs to know.  The polls are wrong but there is no doubt that the election will be close given the huge numbers that are living a parasitical life at the expense of the hard working corporate Americans.   Romney/Ryan will create 12 MILLION jobs (I believe that number will be higher).  They can get more than half of those jobs  just by opening up our huge domestic energy reserves (coal, oil and natural gas).   If you don’t believe me look what is happening in North and South Dakota.  

  • DWinMD

    Why is Romney not leading by 5+ in the polls? It’s pretty obvious to me. 75-80% of the people in this country either tune out the news and current events (“I’d rather watch American Idol, and get my news from Comedy Central” syndrome”) or they get their news from the MSM. No matter what the Romney/Ryan message may be, it will get distorted by the left-wing media. Their objective is to keep Obama and any Democrat in office. (Example: the collective efforts of the press corps to coordinate the same question to Romney – caught on an open mic). If objective journalism was still alive in this country, Romney would in fact, be enjoying a sizable lead.

    • sendtheclunkerbacktochicago

      Sorry DWinMD I totally disagree.  Obama should be up by 15 points or more given the fact that ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC and nearly every damn Newspaper in America are in the tank for Barack Hussein Obama.  Americans do watch TV and read newspapers and they are fed a daily dose of sugar sweet Obama talking points.  

      • maxandmurray

        You fail to understand that some people believe everything they read and everything they hear.

        IF all you “hear” and all you “see” is Romney is bad and Obama is great…they vote accordingly.

        If it rains 99% of the time, you learn to leave the house with an umbrella all the time.

        People are too lazy to do their own research on politics…..whatever news they watch, those are the facts they construe to be truth.

        • asl3676

          I guess everyone isn’t as smart or informed as you are?  Democracy is so sloppy….I don’t know why they let anyone but angry old white people vote….

          • maxandmurray

            Since I am neither….perhaps you can enlighten me.

            Facts are facts.  People in general  (all – black/white, young/old, rich/poor) are far too lazy to do their homework in elections.  Voting is not a spectator sport; participants should come ready, able and prepared to vote.  People need to pass a test to drive a car, perhaps the government should have a preliminary set of questions in the form of a litmus test to determine if the voter is seriously exercising their vote.  Knowing who your Senators are, your local representative, who the vice president is …. basic questions that are indicative of the seriousness of elections.

          • asl3676

            It’s called democracy and constitutional government….all voters are equal..Would you propose that only college graduates vote?

          • maxandmurray

            All people are equal.  There exists no constitutional right to vote.  Americans are precluded from doing many things due to age (ie, movies/driving/marriage).  There still exists private clubs that exclude members (sex, age, etc.)  There are many examples in life wherein “criteria” determines what you can and cannot do.

            You are splitting hairs here.  I am merely saying that a better America is a better informed American voter.  No disrespect in that, just fact.

          • asl3676

            and who decides who is “informed”? In my opinion Bernie Goldberg should not be allowed to vote…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1077904204 Aaron Moore

    Why is it received wisdom that Obama is the favorite? The joker hasn’t cracked 50% in an honest poll in like a year and a half. 

  • EddieD_Boston

    I still don’t see Obama winning Bernie. I was driving down Route 128 this afternoon and didn’t see one Obama 2012 bumper sticker. Not one. The Boston area is the epicenter of Moonbat America. It’s also home of 1,000s of union members. If there isn’t any enthusiasm for him here he’s toast.

    • asl3676

      Eddie..Obama is +20 in the polls in Mass….Do you think the Obama campaign is spending any money in Mass.? Are you aware that no Presidential candidate has won an election without winning his home state since 1916 (Wilson)….This election is all but over unless Obama curses out Romney during the debates…LOL

      • EddieD_Boston

        But where are the Obama 2012 bumper stickers? Also, MA voted for Reagan so we aren't completely hopeless.

        • asl3676

          If you’d like I can have them send you an Obama bumper sticker…
          Every thirty years the voters of Mass. get confused….as did the Red Sox getting rid of Tito Francona….LOL

          • EddieD_Boston

            I'm telling you, the enthusiasm is gone from Obama's base.

          • asl3676

            I don’t disagree but there is not much on the Republican side either….Latest poll shows Obama +30 in Mass… Watch the road not the bumper stickers….LOL

  • Robertrth

    The pain of the debt has not hurt the average American yet,  85% of the work force are employed full time, inflation is barely noticeable and we haven’t sustained a major terrorist attack on US soil since 2001.   In short Obama’s incompetence has not caused enough pain yet for the ill-informed to take notice.   Since Obama is going to make all of the above worse and really cause suffering we can expect his likeability factor to nosedive (my guess in 2014, after Obamacare kicks in).   Of course by then it will be too late.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1077904204 Aaron Moore

       85% of the workforce is fully employed is just a backwards way of saying that the under/unemployment rate is 15%, ACTUAL inflation is rampant (see food, gas, and FX rates), and there have been several terrorist attacks during the Obama administration: the car bomb in New York, the Ft. Hood shooting, and the Benghazi attack (our embassies are sovereign US soil).

      Obama is much, much weaker than the talking heads will admit. Virtually every poll deliberately oversamples Democrats, which is especially pernicious since their registration numbers have plummeted. The sub rosa social scandal of the season is how many blacks (12% or so of the general population) oppose Obama but won’t say so in public. And even in a regular campaign, undecideds break against the incumbent. Perhaps you’ve noticed the persistent 7-10% undecideds hanging around in polls? I suggest that they will look around the week before the election, decide “this guy sucks,” and break strongly for Romney.

      And put this last week of deceit and pathetic craven weakness and top, plus whatever else is coming. It is my belief that Obama will get destroyed.

  • http://gumbo.blogspot.com/ Terry Kirkpatrick

    Half the population receives some financial benefit from the government and millions are employed by the government. They all will vote their pocketbooks.

    • asl3676

      Yeah all those seniors on Social Security and Medicare mocching off the government are in the tank for Obama…

      • http://twitter.com/WalterCobb1 Walter Cobb

        Those are not the ones he is referring to.

  • jukin

     Sure the failure of Obama’s foreign policies of the last four years is coming home to rest in the middle east and the pacific has been highlighted this last week; let’s not forget his stellar economic wrecovery  since June 2009.

    August’s report on
    Obama:

    96,000 jobs created.

    370,000 people gave up looking for a job.

    5,000 small businesses closed.

    176,000 new food stamp moochers.

    85,000 new SSDI approvals.

    Yeah that $6 trillion increase in the federal government debt while adding less than $1.5 trillion to the national GDP.

    • Robertrth

       so what, Obama is sexy.  And the American electorate is to rational decision making as the OJ Simpson jury was to forensic science.

  • david

    on twetter to day just like that twetter said you can not tweet your blog
    i would like to know way twetter does’t block you you send 20 twett to me day
    my blog is http://www.weloveyoupresbobama.blogspot.com 
    http://www.discouragedworker.blogspot.com  these blog tell what i think after watching
    tv news and what i find on line they are not lift or right or dem or rep just what i see form everyone and how they tall

    • NS Sherlock

      Are your teachers on strike this week?

    • EddieD_Boston

      Wow. Betcha you’re a public school grad.

  • MsHeather

    Oh, I forgot to mention, as I mentioned that I would not vote for Romney who would I vote for, it will be a write in vote, most likely Rick Santorum, I will vote my catholic conscience, it may not be the popular thing to do, but right and proper things never are. Was it Anwar Sadat in an interview that told Ted Koppel “On my tombstone I would like it written Here lies a man that was willing to die for his principles rather than live without any”….

    • NS Sherlock

      I don’t care for Romney either and I will vote for him. Can YOU survive another 4 years with a Marxist commie in charge? You will have NO right to complain about anything if this dirty turd gets reelected because YOU are part of the problem.

    • Ahalbert

      Given O’s recent treatment of Catholics and their principles, I don’t see how voting for Rick Santorum will help Catholics in the future. Rick recognizes that, which is why he himself will be voting for Romney.

  • sybilll

    Mr. Goldberg, I have encountered many friends, family and co-workers that have buyer’s remorse about voting Obama, but not a single McCain voter that supports Obama.  I think your friends/colleagues are correct. 

  • Evlpens

    that CBS poll was also +13 for D’s & RV also

  • garyinco

    Hid and watch. We had the press saying the same things in 2010 and look what happened. The Obama’s have alienated large groups of people. Romney will win big.

    • Ahalbert

       Good point. It was also entertaining to watch every last Dem respond that they had done well in 2010. If they can make others believe the opposite of what is obvious, they can certainly make themselves believe it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S76XIS53F7LSF4SGCB4GQ4HH4Q rifleman

     Obama’s plan: Raise taxes on all income groups through ObamaCare, increase spending on education, job training, bailouts, housing, roads, bridges, Food Stamps, and any federal program except defense.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S76XIS53F7LSF4SGCB4GQ4HH4Q rifleman

    I can’t understand why any American Jew would vote for Obama but most American Jews are liberal first, Jews second (or third)…

  • MsHeather

    Dear Benard,

    First time commenting here. In any event I will speak the truth but you most likely will disagree. The fact is, Romney is neck and neck because he cannot rally his base. True core conservatives as myself do not and never will trust him. I have done the research, and he as governor of Massachussets governed as a liberal Look at Romney Care now, it offers free elective surgical abortions, that’s a fact!  Of course, the abortions are not exactly free. We, the taxpayers cover the cost, whether we want to or not.Romney’s pro-abortion timeline1992: Romney voted for “population-control fanatic” Paul Tsongas in the Democrat Presidential primary.1994: In his U.S. Senate debate with Ted Kennedy, he said: “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law [sic] for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it. And I sustain and support that law [sic] and the right of a woman to make that choice.” (Allow me to interject something for a minute, I wish to make something perfectly clear “choice” is a clinical term here employed by radical feminists Betty Freidan Pat Kate Michelson, Pat Maginnis etc. realized they were losing on abortion so they referred to their pro abortion as “pro choice” to make it more acceptable to mainstream America.) They can call it what they want, its still abortion on demand.2002: In his campaign for Governor of Massachusetts, Romney told Planned Parenthood he supported Roe v. Wade, state-funded abortions for low-income women, insurance coverage of contraception, expanded availability of “emergency contraception” (the morning-after abortion pill), buffer zones around abortion clinics, and “age-appropriate sex education” in the schools. He also noted his support for the state law allowing a girl under 18 to bypass her parents and get a judge’s permission for an abortion. “I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose and am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard. I will not change any provisions of Massachusetts’ pro-choice laws,” he said in a debate.  He picked a pro-abortion running mate for Lt. Governor (By the way the same LT. Gov He was with preparing for the upcoming debates) That is a major reason I will not, repeat not vote Romney. Even to this day Romney still equivocates on the abortion issue between all pro life, then making exceptions for rape incest life of mother, oh, by the way many physicians have stated they had never run into a circumstance where the mothers life is in danger as a result of pregnancy, it is an extremely rare occurrence that liberals and radical feminists love to exacerbate.What sort of attorneys would he name to his Justice Department? As Governor, his Chief Legal Counsels advised him to implement unconstitutional policies: implementing “gay marriage” without legislative authorization, and forcing Catholic hospitals to dispense morning-after abortion pills.Are achieving “diversity” and “non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation” still core values for Romney in his appointments?  That is why Romney is having difficulty and running neck and neck when he should be winning by a landslide We want a true core conservative, not as one candidate called him, “The most lubricated weather vane in history” In his convention speech he vowed to “repeal obama care”, three days after that speech he appears on Meet the Press and says “There are parts of obama care I would keep” You tell me Mr Goldberg how can we true conservatives trust a man like that? I think that explains why Romney does not have a huge lead when circumstances dictate that he should

    • Astroknott58

       Romney isn’t our ideal candidate by far but when push comes to shove it’s him or Obama.  While I am as conservative as they come I will have absolutely zero trouble voting for Romney.  I we don’t elect Romney it is literally the end of this great country as we know it.  It’s already too much like a banana republic for my taste.

      • MsHeather

        I understand your point but there is no difference between them. With obama you get abortions, Romney you get abortions, both contributed a and supported planned parenthood obama you get obama care, Romney you get Romney care, obama weak on defense, Romney will be weak on defense, obama most likely a closet Muslim, Romney a member of a cult with no love for Christianity  and hostile to Catholics as governor. obama pro sodomite, Romney sensitive and will most likely defend sodomite marriages, I will wager you he will not go back to DADT in the military Obama hurt small businesses Romney destroyed small businesses with Bain Capital creating substandard minimum wage jobs. You tell me how we will be better off with a Romney presidency? Like I said they both governed like identical  twins if obama had a white twin brother it would be Mitt Romney. Astroknott there is an old saying that you may find out relating to Romney, “Having is is not such a pleasing a thing as wanting”

        You may not be catholic, but I am and unlike many I take my catholicism seriously as well as Catholic Canon Law and for me to vote for anyone advocating, performing by proxy, activism or policy, abortions, is a grave mortal sin. I will not commit a grave sin because  erroneous conventional wisdom seems to indicate obama is worse than Romney…. As lucifer is to satan as romney is to obama they are one in the same. And speaking of that, its crazy to vote a man following “the Book of Mormon” that says lucifer was the brother of Jesus Christ, that is not a man I can nor will vote for, and its no surprise that Romney is loathe to discuss mormonism, its very strange and bizarre!  Both are evil to the core, obama with his King Herod mentality of mass murder of innocent babies and Romney who most likely will wind up doing the same.

        • EddieD_Boston

          Please Heather, come to your senses. Another 4 years of this fool is this country’s death sentence.

          • MsHeather

            Did you not understand what I typed, if so explain which part please

          • EddieD_Boston

            You said you couldn't vote for Romney which means you're content to let him lose and Obama win. Did I miss something?

          • MsHeather

            First do not accuse me of letting obama win. Second you missed the part of WHY I am not voting for Romney I will say it once again. I am a serious practicing catholic, now that may not mean a whole lot to you but to me its life and death important and I will not allow you or anyone lead me into grave mortal sin. If I voted Romney I would be in a state of mortal sin voting him or obama both advocate for abortions and I am not “letting obama win” I cannot help if you or others do not have the common sense God gave you and vote write in. you guys are simply mind numb robots that that you are content to let the RINO LIBERAL RNC dictate to you how to vote, if you and others used your common sense and voted by write in and put your energies into inspiring others to do the same instead of attacking me we would be a lot better off. Maybe you and others drinking the Romney kool aid are the ones that need to come to your senses. Your hatred for obama is so great you cannot see the forest for the trees. I serve God not man, you act like Barabbas, the same hatred he had for the Romans you have for obama he chose war over Jesus, I am choosing Jesus over Romney and obama despite typing all this I know it will not sink into your head you will just ignore every word I typed! But it was not wasted because in God’s court it will be remembered that I served the Lord and tried to inspire others but their hearts were hardened.

          • Sally

            And you think Obama’s religious views and how he lives his life and governs are consistent with yours? (not what he says but what he does; and his membership in a racist church for 20 years, and bribing his pastor not to speak until after the election, telling him that politicians don’t have to tell the truth)? Sure, Romney is not of my faith either. But who has the better character, and who would govern best (and frankly, more like a Christian)? It would be disingenuous to think or say that Obama would be a better president if re-elected than he *cough* has been so far. 

          • MsHeather

            Dear Sally, 

            your missing the point. Let me put it this way. I will be judged according to my conduct by God,  not by obama’s conduct. Obama’s sins are his alone not mine and vice versa. If I vote, and this is true of both Romney and Obama  either candidate I have committed a mortal sin, thats a fact. I cannot nor would I try to justify myself before God by saying Well Lord I voted Romney because he was the less evil of the two. Sin is sin there is no justification for sin before God. Adam tried that by trying to put the blame on Eve saying “The   woman whom you placed at my side gave me fruit from the tree and I ate” As memory serves both Adam and Eve were punished I have a question for you. Instead of finding fault in me why can’t you put a write in vote and encourage others to do the same for a better candidate? Why are you and others allowing yourselves to be duped and told by the RNC how and whom to vote for? Why do you accept the premise that is HAS to be Romney or Obama?

            Many have accused me of giving the election to Obama, I AM NOT! I am voting in accordance to God’s laws and the laws of my catholic faith (Catholic Canon Law) God will not judge me for a mythical theory of “letting Obama win” any more than a mother and father will be judged for the murder  that their adult son committed. However I will be judged if I knowingly and willfully vote a candidate that in any way or form advocated by proxy, policy , activism or monetary gain for abortion which led to the murder of an innocent child or children. so will vote a candidate 100%  pro life you need not agree with me but I would appreciate respect for my viewpoint Sally…Thank you

          • NS Sherlock

            GOD gave you a brain – USE IT!

          • EddieD_Boston

            A) I went to an all boys Catholic HS in Boston as well as a Catholic college in the burbs. B) After the pedophile scandal I completely gave up on the church as I think it's a complete embarrassment and the Vatican needs to be shut down. What those weird men think is irrelevant. C) If you want abortion outlawed it has to be done through the supreme court and if Obama is elected he'll stack the court with a bunch of Ruth Bader Ginsburgs and it'll only get worse. If Romney wins you have a better chance getting more conservative judges. D) If you live in a solid red state your write-in doesn't matter. If you live in a battleground state it does and if Obama wins abortion will become the national pastime.
            Don't be so self-righteous. If Obama wins it'll be catastrophic.

          • MsHeather

            You
            say you went to an all boys Catholic
            High School and your lack
            of faith caused you to give up on the Catholic Church. Well, you do not explain
            the extent of your Catholic foundation prior to that i.e. were you born
            catholic, were your parents catholic, if so were they active in the faith?

             

            I
            am going to take a chance you are the prodigal son type and I will follow the
            example of Jesus and seek out the lost sheep to bring back to the fold as it is
            my catholic duty to do so.

             

            First
            let me tell you something Eddie, shape up Mr.! Don’t you dare use the pedophile
            incident for your lack of faith. Sure there are problems with priests
            pedophile, is not the worst problem, and when compared to other religions Catholicism
            actually has one of the lowest rates.

             

            Next
            your solution of the Vatican
            being shut down is utter insanity and illogical. I have my issues with the
            Catholic clergy but its not pedophilia that is only a small symptom of the real
            problem.

             

            In
            order to educate you I will give you a little background about myself, because
            you most likely did not know what you took on when you decided to debate me. I
            have been educated entirely in the catholic school system from k-college. I
            attended Notre Dame
            University, yes the
            Fighting Irish where I earned 2 degrees a Bachelors in Catholic Divinity the
            other a Masters in Political Science. being Irish it was every catholic
            Father’s dream to send his Child-children To Notre Dame.

             

            Having
            said that I am now ashamed of Notre Dame because it is now a CINO college, that
            is to say Catholic in name only. Adapting pro sodomy courses, having the vagina
            monologues played on campus, supporting pro choice issues etc. Perhaps the
            thing that really broke my heart was the invitation to Obama where he was
            awarded an honorary degree which broke Catholic Canon Law.

             

            But
            I tell you Mr. I did not whine and pout and look for an excuse to give up on my
            catholic faith. No! I fought all the more harder! Let me tell you the most
            serious heresy in the Vatican
            is The Vatican II Reforms of 1962, which has led to things like pedophilia, and
            CINO-ism.

             

            Many
            within the catholic faith including priests and bishops do not understand or
            practice it properly. I doubt, you or anyone here has true understanding.

             

            The
            last true legitimate succession to the papacy of the Catholic Faith from the
            papal enclave was from Pope Pius XII to Pope Gregory XVII  but he refused because of threats to himself
            and moreover to his family. Sadly and tragically Cardinal Angelo Roncalli was
            elected to the papacy as Pope John XXIII who is often referred to as the
            “good Pope John” now “Blessed” which is the third step
            toward sainthood within the Catholic Faith, the fourth and final is sainthood
            The thought of that makes me ill.

             

            Roncalli
            was a communist and a freemason and should have been defrocked The CIA has a
            whole dossier on him. The Catholic faith has been in eclipse since he became
            pope, he and every pope since have been a sort of antipopes, each has been
            involved in varying degrees of heresies.

             

            You
            need to wake up, no pope is perfect, St Peter the first pope denied Jesus
            Christ three times, in scripture what did Jesus tell Peter knowing well
            beforehand that Peter would betray him? Matt 16: 17-20

             

            And
            Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh
            and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven   And I
            say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church,
            and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the
            keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it
            shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it
            shall be loosed also in heaven. Then he commanded his disciples, that they
            should tell no one that he was Jesus the Christ.

             

            My
            point, the catholic faith is not one of perfection, but one of redemption,
            through Our Lord God and Savior Jesus the Christ! Pray for it to succeed, pray
            for the clergy, do not take the coward’s way out by abandoning your faith! Repent
            what you need to repent and go back, its not that difficult to say Father, I
            have sinned again God and my family, I no longer deserve to be called your son…This
            son of mine was lost and is found…kill the fatted calf, we must celebrate. I
            will leave you with this… 1 Corinthians 9

            But
            as it is written “Eye has not seen nor ear heard, nor has it entered into
            the heart of man, what things God has prepared for those that love Him” Do
            you really want to give all that up Edward? On this day I ask of you to go back
            to your Catholic Faith, LEARN your Faith Learn it well in the proper way, then
            fight for it! The question is do you have the moral courage, fortitude and
            resolve to do so? Or will you take the cowardly route looking for excuses, This
            is something you cannot answer me instantly it make take some time to dwell,
            reflect, and pray on the matter, I will pray for you

            May
            God Bless You Eddie   

          • EddieD_Boston

            I didn't say my lack of faith made me give up on the Cathilic church. The priests of the Catholic church made me give up on the Catholic church. The Vatican is a pathetic joke and those who attend church are enabling these disgusting and vile (and strange) men to continue with their secret society. How can you possibly take anything they say seriously when you known they allowed others among them to abuse children? Make no mistake, these weren't isolated instances. This abuse was a way of life for a huge % of them and it was covered up at the top. They ALL should be in jail.

          • MsHeather

            Also to address your second part:

            I wish you guys would do research before using talking points you hear on the news and repeat them here, Romney as governor put liberal Justices in Mass. Courts Read and LEARN  http://www.amycontrada.com/Romney_Flip-Flop.html

            Romney’s Judiciary
            http://www.amycontrada.com/Romney_s_Judiciary.htmlRead Those Links and LEARN… DO THE RESEARCH before reading talkin points you hear on the news please

        • Ahalbert

          You sum up Romney’s career in business by saying he destroyed small business? Ok, you’ve convinced me you’re not a conservative. A conservative would think that Romney changing his mind on abortion is a good thing…unless you’re perfect, and never had to change your mind about anything. Why would you vote for Santorum if he himself would vote for Romney?  He understands that increasing Obama’s chances threatens your religious freedoms.

          • MsHeather

            Oh I am far more conservative than you will ever be if anyone is not conservative its you! You vote based on economy and care less about God and Christianity! here is the truth to open your eyes to the low life Romney is! When I said Romney-Bain Capital  hurt small businesses I am correct he made it impossible  for small business to upstart and compete! A prime example is Clearwater owned by Bain Capital that gobbled up practically every radio station in America made it near impossible for new ones to start. Bain Capital made the local mom and pop operation of anything independent impossible, lets say that you want to open a small stationery store in your local neighborhood, its impossible, how do you compete with Staples? So you have to work minimum wage at Staples to make that clown prince of liars wealthy instead of your self so yes Ahalbert he hurt small businesses or at least depressed the growth of them!
            Look at his record as governor how Romney Care hurt small businesses!

            Here are Romney’s FAILURES as Governor
            Massachusetts Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor.

             Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor.

            Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office

            Piled on more debt than any other state: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the highest of any state in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal incomeMaybe you need a course in economics 101 before you lecture me
            You think you are conservative? here is what you support voting for Romney:
            Romney Personally Issued Marriage Licenses to 189 Same-Sex CouplesRomney’s statement in which he expressed support for global warming:  “I believe the world is getting warmer, and I believe that humans have contributed to that.”  This despite the last two winters being among the coldest in recent history and the recent evidence revealing pro-global supportAn Open Letter about Mitt RomneyTo:       Conservative, Catholic and Evangelical Leaders From: Read the List of Signers Here Date:   January 20, 2011 Subject:  America Needs Bold Conservative Leadership, not a Manufactured Candidate A few weeks ago Mark DeMoss circulated a letter urging conservative and evangelical leaders to get behind Mitt Romney’s presidential bid. We, the above listed individuals, have decided to respond with the argument that a Romney candidacy would be disastrous for the conservative movement and for the country. Romney’s Business Management Experience Does Not Guarantee He Will Govern As A Conservative One of the primary arguments presented by Mr. DeMoss is that Romney’s business management experience and his allegedly outstanding performance managing the state of Massachusetts thereby qualifies him to not only be president but to have the support of the conservative movement.  However, business experience does not guarantee  a person will govern as a conservative.  There have been many liberal presidents with business experience; one that comes readily to mind is Jimmy Carter, who managed a peanut farm business.  Indeed, the RINO population is full of businessmen and some of America’s leading businessmen supported the candidacy of Barack Obama. The goal of conservatives is to scale back government, not manage big government more … [Read More...]

            Book Review: “Mitt Romney’s Deception, His Stealth Promotion of Gay Rights and Gay Marriage in Massachusetts” by Amy Contrada                                                          That’s just the tip of the iceberg Ahalbert so don’t you DARE lecture me about my conservatism! You Back a poisonous LIBERAL That Soros himself would be happy with! Romney and Obama arew the two heds on one satanic body WAKE UP!
            George Soros: Obama, Romney “Not Much Difference,” NewsMax, 1/28/2012. Video here

          • Jeffreydan

              I’ll make it very simple for you: you have two options to select from if you prefer Obama in any way: 1) vote for anyone other than Governor Romney, or 2) don’t vote at all. 

              You may very well be conservative, but you apparently side with liberals on at least one point, the low job growth. Trying to argue that MA’s ranking reflects poorly on Romney is a bit dishonest; unemployment there was around 4.5%. One thing that can cause sluggish job growth is a majority of people already having a job.       

          • MsHeather

            I will make it even simpler for you
            First get off your high and mighty attitude second don’t be pompous and tell me what choices I have Mr! I chose right in and if that’s a problem for you too bad!
             
            Third its NOT all about the economy its about God, Christianity, morals and ethics, and don’t argue obama’s is worse I already know that! But I am NOT a democrat and never voted democrat in my life thats on the record!
             
            Like I said to others here I am Catholic and I WILL NOT COMMIT A MORTAL SIN BECAUSE OF YOUR FLAWED IDEOLOGY AND IF YOU CANNOT RESPECT THAT DON’T REPLY TO MY POSTS.
             
             
            ROMNEY IS AS LIBERAL AS OBAMA THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
             
            ROMNEY’S OWN WORDS “I AM TO THE LEFT OF TED KENNEDY” Do any of you not understand His whole record is as big a fraud as Obama’s He is a promoter of sodomy, if you do the research you will see if you are too lazy to do it then that is your problem!
             
            All you people are like Tom Cruise, you come in here boasting “I want the truth” The reality is YOU CAN”T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! When it comes to Romney, The fact is All you Romney Kool Aid Drinkers are so full of hate for Obama you would vote for satan himself. Speaking of that another reason I will not vote Romney is I don’t like a president who’s religion (cult) says Jesus’ brother is satan (Book of Mormon)  and other bizarre nonsense of course none of you will do the research
            GET THIS AND GET IT GOOD….. I SERVE GOD NOT MAN
             
            KEEP THAT IN THE BACKROADS BY THE RIVERS OF YOUR MEMORY EVER GENTLE ON YOUR MIND!

    • Jeffreydan

        Heather, you have two choices:

        1) Vote as you have indicated, making it more likely that the guy who strongly supported killing abortion-surviving newborn children, and mourned the murder of George Tiller more than his own serviceman shot by a Muslim, gets re-elected.
        2) Vote for Governor Romney, who on that topic hasn’t stooped anywhere close to that sickening level, and economically speaking is far more likely to help the country get back on track.
        
        Maybe it’s a good question: will you really feel better giving de facto support to the candidate who favors the most depraved strain of legalized infanticide? 

  • spongedocks

    Both candidates suspended their campaigns in 2008, went back to DC to get a handle on just how bad things were. Obama knew full well what the fiscal cliff was then, then after he took over the Oval Office, he signed a pile of Exeuctive Orders to begin to address the matters, hence Simpson Bowles. He ignored them. Inheriting a bad situation was not a new matter, just one way over his head. Now, if there is a second term, he will inherit his own problems that have manifested 10 fold.  He has not attended financial or intelligence briefings with any consistency, and has chosen matters like Sandra Fluke’s birth control to be more important than Sequestration, foreign policy, than entitlements. It is all a failure where even the Rpublicans are having the arguments and the discourse stolen from them because the Preezy has been given omnipotent power. Disgusting.

  • concerned citizen

    Maybe a little bit of improvement but not enough in my humble opinion for Obama to get reelected. Quite honestly, we are in 16 trillion dollars of debt which Obama did nothing to reduce and just added to Bush’s debt. And let’s get one thing straight, no politicial party has clean hands when it comes to the economy or why we’re in a mess. And I have to say, sorry, but you’re an idiot.

  • Jrawl

    You are an idiot.

  • Iklwa

    The only time I prognosticate with any real accuracy is when I go to the proctologist.
    I can predict EXACTLY what’s about to happen.
     
    I get the same feeling when looking at the upcoming election and thinking about the President’s re-election prospects…you know, a general tightening of sphincters and unexplained, profuse sweating.
     
    I too will be surprised if Mr. Obama is defeated.
    I lived through Clinton’s re-election and was dumbfounded by his successful bid.
    I was truly surprised and had none of the aforementioned anticipatory reactions.

  • http://profiles.google.com/thewodm the wodm

    Romney’s 5 Point Plan:

    1. Tax Cuts.

    2. Tax Cuts.

    3. Tax Cuts.

    4. Tax Cuts.

    5. Increase Military Spending to Record Levels.
    The Republicans are in the curious position of having to convince the
    country that it is in terrible shape, but it is not their fault. In
    fact, even though all the economic indicators are improving, Mitt has to
    argue that he could somehow do better, even though he would adopt the
    same terrible policies that W. did, which got us into this mess to begin
    with.But the Republicans can suspend belief on terrorism,Global
    Warming, Evolution, and a lot of other issues. So they are practiced in
    fairy tales, and some of them will believe it, but not enough to get
    Mitt elected.