If President Obama Had a Son He Might Look Like …

Chris LaneThe three teenagers in rural Oklahoma said they were bored.  They needed something to do that would be fun.  They were sitting on a porch when a jogger ran by.  That’s when they got in a car and caught up with him on a country road.  When they got close enough, one of the boys, a 16 year old, aimed his gun and shot the jogger in the back.  He hit the ground bleeding.  And that’s where he died.  His name was Chris Lane, a 22-year old Australian who was a college baseball player here on a scholarship.

If Barack Obama had a son he might look like the alleged shooter, Chancey Luna (in the center) – or maybe the 15 year old, James Edwards (on the left) who was also in the car.  Michael Jones, 17, drove the car; he’s white.

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But you’ll never hear the president utter those words.  It’s one thing to identify with a black teenager shot and killed by a white man (who was actually only half white; his mother is Hispanic).  But it’s quite another to link yourself, in any way, to a black kid who killed someone simply because he had nothing better to do.

And there’s no reason Barack Obama should say his imaginary son would look like the shooter.  But then, there was no good reason for the president to say if he had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin.  But he did, needlessly implying that it’s dangerous being a black kid in America when white people with guns are around.

When he heard about the shooting, Jesse Jackson tweeted that this was an example of “senseless violence” that should be “frowned upon.”

Frowned upon?  That’s the best that he could come up with?  When Trayvon Martin was shot to death Jackson said “blacks are under attack” in America, and “Killing us is big business,” and Trayvon was “shot down in cold blood by a vigilante.” Never mind that there was a fight right before Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin.  Murky details like that didn’t matter to Jackson or other members of the civil rights business. Now we hear that the Oklahoma shooting should be “frowned upon.” Where is the moral outrage Jackson was able to muster for Trayvon Martin?  Later, after he came under fire for his lame response to the murder in Oklahoma, Jackson issued a statement calling on all Americans to “resist all forms of violence in our society.”  Thanks for not much.

But at least he said something.  The rest of the civil rights establishment has been silent.  The Missouri NAACP wanted a rodeo clown investigated by the Department of Justice for making fun of President Obama.  On the Oklahoma shooting, silence. For black elites to speak out against violence committed by young black men apparently is tantamount to treason.

So far the president has been silent too.  The murder in Oklahoma will not get the attention that the Trayvon Martin case received — not from the president and not from the media or the civil rights industry.   Why not?  Because in Oklahoma the alleged shooter is black and the victim is white.  And that makes all the difference in the world.

It’s true that there is no evidence that the teenagers targeted Chris Lane because he was white.  But there is a tweet, allegedly sent by the youngest of the three that said:”90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM.”

Imagine if a white kid put out a tweet like that and then was picked up for killing a young black man.

But who knows, maybe they would have shot a black jogger if that’s who was out running that day.  Maybe.  But there was no evidence either that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin because he was black.  That didn’t stop the president from chiming in.

Maybe that’s because Mr. Obama sensed Trayvon was shot because he was “guilty” of walking while black.  After all, we got a similar message from the civil rights industry, which painted a picture of an America where white people were out hunting down young black men. White liberal journalists on television listened to this nonsense and didn’t say a word.  They played the part of potted plants.

Who knows, maybe the president would have had something to say if the jogger was black and was shot dead by a couple of white thugs who were out for some kicks. Al Sharpton and the rest of the black civil rights industry certainly would have had something to say.

And Sharpton finally did have something to say.  “I protest when I’m called in and when there’s an injustice.,” he said on his MSNBC show days after the murder. “The three were arrested, there was nothing to protest. The system worked there, and racial? Not only did the police not say it was racial, one of the three were white,” Sharpton said

But the police in Florida said the Trayvon Martin case wasn’t racial either.  But that didn’t stop Sharpton.  And one of the three thugs in Oklahoma was white? So what?  Zimmerman mentored black kids and that didn’t stop Sharpton from screaming racism.

Which brings us to the president, who still hasn’t chimed in.  But there’s still time.  And here’s what President Obama still can say. He could use the tragedy to make some long overdue points.  Here’s what, in my most optimistic moments, I would like to hear President Obama tell the nation:

Recently I talked to the American people about what it’s like being a young black man in this country.  I said women clutch their purses on the elevator when a young black man gets on.  I said people lock their car doors at a red light when a black kid gets too close.  I said young black men are followed when they walk into a store.

I implied that their only “crime” was being black.

What I should have added is that there’s a good reason for all of that.  People – and not just white people – are suspicious of young black men because young black men give them plenty of reason to be suspicious.

I did note that black kids commit too much crime.  But I should have gone further. Much further. I should have said there’s something very wrong in black America when nearly three out of four black babies won’t have a father around when they’re growing up.

I should have said public schools are free yet black kids drop out at astronomical rates. I should have said, let’s stop blaming “crumbling schools” and everything else for their failure.  If you drop out – it’s your fault.  That’s what I should have said.  And I should have made very clear that without an education you won’t get a good job.  You’ll live in poverty.  And too many of you will try to find your manhood in a gun and wind up in prison.

And please Rev. Sharpton and the other members of the African-American elite … please don’t blame a racist judicial system for any of that.  You have been silent – just as I have – about the real problems plaguing black America … for way too long.

We are all co-conspirators.  Almost every murder in New York City is committed by a person “of color.” And how do we respond:  We scream about the racist cops who are profiling our poor, innocent black children. 

Enough!  

*****

Let me say it before you do:  I’m delusional. Still, it would be nice to hear something like that from the president.  After all, there’s no one in the entire country who could make the case better.  But when I told a friend about this he laughed.

Anyone who says anything like that, he told me, would be seen either as a racist – if he’s white — or an Uncle Tom – if he’s black. So no one, he said, will get any traction with that message.

Unfortunately, he’s right.

Then there’s John McWhorter, a black intellectual with guts, who wrote a piece in Time about the Oklahoma shooting. It ran under the headline: Don’t Ignore Race in Christopher Lane’s Murder.   “[I]t’s just fake to pretend that the association of young black men with violence comes out of thin air,” he writes. “Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men. If the kinds of things I just mentioned were regularly done by whites, it’d be trumpeted as justification for being scared to death of them.”  Black leaders from President Obama on down should take note.

As for the three teenagers in Oklahoma, they’ve all been charged as adults.  They may spend the rest of their lives in prison.  Let’s hope so.

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  • culturist

    Actually it has very little to do with skin color. It has everything to do with culture.
    “Michael Jones, 17, drove the car; he’s white.” – yes, white, but with the same black-hearted culture.
    No causal relationship however, either way, with black skin.
    A positive statistical relationship with skin color? – yes, unfortunately.

    But, it is all to do with culture. Specifically, the dependency-and-blame-others culture presently foisted upon them by that do-gooder troupe headed by Jackson, Farrakahn, Holder, and “Trayvon’s Daddy”

    And, that culture can not be rooted out and replaced with a better one till its sponsors (who are also its grand and only beneficiaries) are removed from power.

  • lucee

    Wow…just when I start to think MAYBE Obama might be learning “how” to be a
    little more presidential, he reminds me WHY I considered him such a BONEHEADED
    JERK in the first place.

    How did we EVER get a bonehead like HIM as
    president…Oh, yeah…that’s right…THAT’s how.

    So…Let’s just get
    through the next miserable years of Obama’s term and get him and his gaggle of
    Buffoons OUT of the White House, at last.

    Next time, we will ALL
    remember what kind of “president” Obama proved himself…especially to
    Hispanics, who were integral in getting him elected. Never again,
    though!!

    By the way…IF Obama believes he “could have been Trayvon
    Martin,” does he also believe he “could have been OJ” ?? How about that poor Australian man, who was executed by three young men (black men, by the way)…could he have been ONE of them? Pick one, any one…which ONE could Obama have been? Maybe Obama could have been Charles Lindy, in another time, on his “maternal side?” Or, perhaps, Obama could have been ALL of them, to spread out his pandering to everyone, fairly and to it’s best advantage, huh? What a BONEHEADED
    comment for him to make…

    What a BONEHEAD Obama is…a total
    BONEHEAD.

    …and I was almost HOPEFUL that he might arrive at a place of
    having a clue… until he opened his mouth and proved what a BONEHEAD he is,
    once, again and forever.

  • legal eagle

    Real Patriots? What does that mean? Hopefully their not as prejudiced as you are but you believe you’re perfect so who am I to tell you otherwise?

    • http://www.facebook.com/chris.cordell.108 Chris Cordell

      If you’re going to comment please learn to spell or learn the proper use of words. The word you’re looking for is they’re, as in they are. There is there, their, and they’re. And you call yourself ‘Legal Eagle’? I don’t think I would hire you to advise me.

      • legal eagle

        This is the best you can come up with as criticism? You couldn’t afford to hire me…

        • Lance Combs

          I couldn’t afford the loss of reputation you’d cause me, so you’re right.

        • culturist

          You are perfectly correct.
          None of us could afford to hire you.
          The results of hiring you would be catastrophic in social, moral, judicial, and economic senses. Perhaps a few more too . . .

          • legal eagle

            People hire me to kick the butt of the opposing party not for social or moral reasons..

    • Lucee

      silly buffoon

      • legal eagle

        Thanks you for your kind words…

  • Deborah G

    Actually we are not although my husband is of age to get them he decided not to apply . We are thinking about a charitable trust if we do decide to take them After all if the money could be used for a good cause rather than have it squandered I believe that is just. We don’t really need it but we did pay in the max so yes we are entitled to it by law but we haven’t taken it until we decide if an educational grant for a deserving inner city child could be filled with the amount. Make sense?

    • legal eagle

      Awww…how white of you…..

      • Deborah G

        We donate 30% of our after tax income to educational trusts. That’s how you fight liberalism, educate smart kids at private schools not marxist propaganda mills where the name of God is a dirty word but Johnny having two daddies and committing Sodomy to show their undying love for each other is.

        • legal eagle

          So you’ve hit the tripleheader.. You hate jews, minorities and gays….Your family must be proud…

          • Deborah G

            What a childish moron you are. I hate no one but don’t want my children near perversion. your parents must by crying they actually spent money trying to educate you.I don’t think teaching kids about homosexuality is age appropriate.I have morals something liberals seem to lack. As well as honesty and integrity.

          • legal eagle

            Hopefully your kids will be able to overcome your bigotry;;;

          • Deborah G

            My kids overcame the liberal schools and became real Americans patriots and successful. Something liberals can’r seem to get right.

    • http://theromancatholicvote.com/ catholicvoter

      Great idea! Now only if we had folks with your creativity in politics America would be better off. Keep at it!

      • Deborah G

        We sent a kid on a freee ride to a good Catholic High School on Long Island because he was deserving. His family did not want the bad influences of his crime ridden high school. He is doing well. Weask the local churches and local leaders when we want to help a kid. One kid a ta time .

  • theslowrider

    The love of money makes people do and say some of the strangest things. I pray the love of God will find its way into the hearts of these men.

  • Deborah G

    you rarely see groups fo white kids acting like gangastas and if I did I would call them white gangsta wannabes and ask them if they think it is cool to dumb down to that level

  • Deborah G

    Obama and the rest of the blacks are race baiters and white haters, NEVER tell the truth because you will be called a racist. I never was but lately? I could be

  • I Hate Fascists

    “She stuck her finger in the wound of a gunshot victim! That gives her the right to determine if and how the Second Amendment is applied, you mental microbe”. Amused that it was the only justification she offered for her gun legislation? What other justification does she need? As a matter of fact it does make her an authority. Gun control is not the economy or global warming or rocket science. I don’t care how you parse it. It was meant to provoke an image and to add insult to injury. In poor taste, outrageous, hateful and comtemptible. And obviously that other cantankerous old SOB Louis was rather amused. “We shoukl back up and ask Feinstein why she stuck her fingers in the wound”.

    “I care about children a great deal, actually, so much so that I refuse to use them to silence others’ arguments or challenge their Constitutional rights. Exploit-mongers who do this are, morally speaking, somewhere behind pit vipers and barely ahead of NAMBLA members”. Again I don’t care how you parse it. To use the Newtown parents and NAMBLA child molesters in the same sentence is to draw a comparison. And hence in poor taste, outrageous, hateful, and contemptible. Silencing? They are not silencing anyone. Quite the opposite you are attempting to silence them with your hatred.

    Like all right wingers hatred is what unites you. It is inbred in you and you cannot stop hating any more than rabbits can stop multiplying. I will not try to change you but I will continue to shine the light on you and expose you for what your are, a fringe cult hate group. For all your voter suppression and other dirty tricks you will continue to be trounced in every election because no one with any sense wants to live in your Fascist Fantasyland.

    • Jeff Webb

      You inferred that “exploit-mongers” meant the parents. I was actually referring to liberal pols, pundits, and the like.

      Now that I’ve clarified that, and with the understanding that how you generally feel about my take on gun control will be no more or less valid, now is your time to take back the accusation. I’m not telling you again.

      I’m not a bigot, I don’t rub salt in the wounds of the grieving, and your drawing these conclusions is reprehensible!!!

      • I Hate Fascists

        OOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!! A threat!!!!. But regardless, “exploit mongers” does in fact include the parents. Recall that the parents went to DC to lobby for gun control. Also recall this quote from one of your responses to me in that same article: “Re: Newtown parents: as terrible as their suffering is, neither they nor the opportunist pols using them as props are justified in challenging my or anyone else’s Constitutional rights”.
        So in spite of how intimidated I am by you, you do rub salt in the wounds, you do add insult to injury, and I am not taking anything back. What are you going to do about it Pops? Shoot me?

        • Jeff Webb

          >>I am not taking anything back. What are you going to do about it Pops? Shoot me?<<

          I'm one of this site's moderators. You'll find out soon enough. Hint: you'll probably throw around your whiny "Fascist Fatwa" tripe again.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Can’t handle the truth Pops? If you can’t beat me delete me eh? Whatever. I have been kicked out of better places than this.

            YOU WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER
            NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Adios Amigos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • I Hate Fascists

        I have been kicked out of better places than this

        • Jeff Webb

          >>I have been kicked out of better places than this<<

          That's gotta be the least surprising thing I've learned all year.

          If you thought it was better before, just think of how much better it became once they removed you.

  • legal eagle

    I saw Goldberg on O’Reillys show Monday.. His head was so far up Bill’s butt that Bill’s hair looked grey…Yes Bill, I agree with you Bill, You’re right Bill, You’re a genius Bill…..Goldberg appears to have sold his soul for a paycheck from Roger Ailes…

    • I Hate Fascists

      How romantic!! Watch your mouth or there will be a Fascist Fatwa out on you too!!

      • legal eagle

        Bernie is like O’Reilly’s puppy dog…

    • Jeff Webb

      My, aren’t you original. What was the date of the original comment you just pasted?

      • legal eagle

        August 26 or 27th…

    • Deborah G

      Smart guy to pick the right side. Probably one fo the few Jews that make the right choices.

      • legal eagle

        Once again a comment from the authority on Jewish opinion as well as racism in America…..Happy Jewish New Year to you …

        • Deborah G

          I never claimed to be the authority on Jewish opinion that is MY opinion so stop your whining.And BTW? Where is there anything remotely racist is what I said? Like I said you can call me a lot of things but I am spot on when I call you a moron.You behave like one continually and then play the Jewish victim. Here’s a clue MY Jewish dad never played the victim role. He was as outspoken as I am about the foolishness of the Jewish community in being idiot Libers and he was a doctor so spare me the uneducated line coming next.

    • culturist

      Why don’t you give Al Gore a hand to get up to 18,001 daily viewers on his money-losing mission?
      Fox wouldn’t feel your absence, and you might be so enthralled by the absolutely non-Jewish content of AJA that you might not even have time to peck the keyboard with your sharp and pointy Eagle-beak

  • Ian

    I think you should consider again the circumstances surrounding and the outcomes resulting from these two different situations. For example, the three adolescents (shown above) were arrested and held with prosecution sought by the local government immediately following the incident. That is in stark contrast to the case in Florida where a man who killed someone was released after being held for only 5 hours of questioning, with no further prosecution or investigation sought by the government. It is because Zimmerman was so casually released that so much outrage followed (and this outrage was necessary in order to persuade further investigation), if those three adolescents were released in a similar manner I imagine the level of outrage surrounding the case would have been much, much greater in both the Caucasian and African-American communities. But, they were arrested, held, and prosecuted- so what is the affront analogous to the case in Florida that was supposed to cause similar outrage?

    With this in mind, what is incorrect about Sharpton’s statement (from above)?:

    “I protest when I’m called in and when there’s an injustice.,” he said on
    his MSNBC show days after the murder. “The three were arrested, there
    was nothing to protest…”

    You seem to dismiss this point entirely, even though it is precisely this which distinguishes these cases so clearly from one another. In terms of outrage it was not so much a matter of the nature of the killings, but rather a matter of the legal/judicial response (or lack there of) which followed the killings.

    Additionally. Did you think to examine this idea from the opposite perspective? How did the Caucasian population’s response to this murder in Oklahoma differ from their response to the murder in Florida? I suspect that the two populations follow a similar, yet inverted, trend with respect to the two cases.

    This is coming from somebody who has no emotional investment or political motive related to the case, I’m just trying to point out some major holes in your rhetoric just in case other people would rather not fall in.

  • Kathy Andersen

    very good and honestly right

  • claude hansford

    I learned, never turn your back to the ocean. One needs to be aware, there are many dangers these days. Last week while waiting for a train, I stood back as far as possible, watching the ranting & raving of a schizophrenic about killing white people, He was 90% white… I was so naive to think Obama may help this country in the wright direction, turns out he is the first racist president. A black leader would represent all? Not a chance, he now admits among other things, he strongly suggest his support for and is keeping affirmative action. I’d be collecting my fed pension today, but 1990 I was told at Pearl harbor, though I was highly qualified, white male not on the fed. list of protected Americans. I than read, listed every race, male, female. Got to the bottom of page to see white female alone.. Was the job filled I asked. “No, the job will remain open until a black man wants it, no mater how long that may be, sorry, take it up with your congress person”,,, Will I now be called a racist, having told the truth? I’m a veteran who attended race relations class in the army. I harbor no ill feelings for the unfair practices of the past, but am very concerned for the bright youth of this country.

    • DanB_Tiffin

      Yup, you are just not a member of any of the liberal’s “designated victims groups”
      Nothing for you!

      • Deborah G

        The most discriminated group in America is the white MAle for jobs and advancement. Where is the outrage and affirmative action for them?

        • lucee

          I agree…there is a perverted concept of “racism” in America today…adn the term is used as a catchphrase to manipulate society, the law and advantageous circumstances, which is why it has become old, tired, boring and virtually worthless.

          For example:

          Huffington Post is a biased, Obamacized, Bobble-headed cyber rag with
          wannabe sock-puppet moderators who have spastic fingers poised over the “Delete”
          key, whenever they receive a flag from one of their special-interest cronies. I
          have been bounced from posting on that soggy forum for questioning why there is
          NO “White Voices,” as a polar counter to “Black Voices,” which, if you can
          believe it, was called a “racist comment.” Yes, I am serious. I was told “there
          are lots of white voices in here (Black Voices) to which I responded, it would
          be nice to hear from lots of black voices, then, in a WHITE Voices forum. That
          comment was deleted. I was censored for comments regarding Trayvon Martin,
          Obama, Ariana Huffington and too many others to count. I saved many of the
          comments, which generated a fan base of over 340 in just 6 months…so there was
          a good deal of agreement, right? Huffington Post is the kind of trash National
          Enquirer would use as an example of what they would like to emulate…only with
          better journalists and a more interesting story-cache. In short, Ariana
          Huffington uses HP as her tickle- and- slap -folly for her bored and useless
          existence, to try to breathe some dank credibility into her empty and ridiculous
          life…with money as her only qualification and resume …and she is a panderer
          to the special-interest groups, Obamaphiles and the dancing, pranching Chorus
          Line of Obama-ettes, better known as the DUM-O-Craps…as well as her gasping,
          huffing, puffing pod of pretend moderators who nod and blubber to her display of
          self-gratification through lousy journalism and the dubious position it affords
          her, Ms. Huffington is an aging *POOF* of nothingness, who is grasping,
          desperately, to be a speck more than the small cosmic stain she will leave as
          her true legacy to the world…and the joke IS on her…because Huffington Post
          will trail her name, like soiled toilet paper stuck to the heels of her
          expensive pumps…if anyone remembers her AT ALL.

          That’s that. :-)

          • Deborah G

            And that says it all!

  • Scott

    Very well written Bernie and I agree with the points made. Some have said that by electing the first black president, that this country had made great strides in regards to race relations. It seems though, however, things have not gotten better. In fact, I believe that they are worse now. I don’t think that the President shoulders all the burden. There’s plenty of blame to go around on the left and their pals in the media. However, when you have somebody as influential as the POTUS make a public statement like he did about Trayvon Martin, that’s sensational.

  • I Hate Fascists

    Well it took long enough but at last it is starting to sink in but Pops you really need a remedial course in logic. “shot down like a rabid dog” does not imply that the victim IS a rabid dog but that he was shot down AS IF HE WERE a rabid dog. Big difference.

    The truly wrong thing you did? First to mischaracterize Smokingapple’s comment: The main point of his comment was this: “Obama’s statement was to send the message that judging people off skin color alone is asinine as the President’s son would have also looked “suspicious”. Not because he wanted to side with blacks over whites.”. But you decided to take his profiling and shooting comment out of context. There is no difference between profiling and shooting, and even though he said it it was not the main point that he was trying to make, but you chose to magnify it to the main point because that was more convenient for you. Second was to mischaracterize Wilson’s quote. And finally when called on it to try and cover it up with arrogance and hostility.

    As I have said may times here, the right wing is united in hatred, (as well as misery, greed, arrogance and stupidity). And as an unabashed right winger, your hatred comes thru loud and clear. Starting at the beginning with you and Louis being tickled pink at the image of Feinstein using her fingers to attempt to stop the bleeding of the SF gunshot victims. Fast forward to you and Daly cutting up about flying over Detroit dropping scraps of food and starting a riot.

    • I Hate Fascists

      And this: “it’s getting to the point where, God forbid, some weak little brat could end up president just for being black or a smooth talker”

      • Jeff Webb

        Aww, did IHFums not wike his widdle pwesident being widiculed?

        • I Hate Fascists

          As a matter of fact I couldn’t care less. All I want is for you to state the obvious. That you hate Obama.

          • Jeff Webb

            Actually, I don’t hate Obama. What I have for him is merely the same thing he has for the Constitution, this country, and people who don’t share his ideology: disrespect.

            You might like him/agree with him, but that doesn’t mean he is properly executing his role.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Disrespect and hatred go hand in hand.

          • I Hate Fascists

            People who don’t share his ideology meaning you? And disrespect for you by definition means disrespect for the country and the constitution? Well my fine feathered Fascist friend, eventually when you get trounced in election after election you may catch on that no one with any sense wants to live in your Fascist Fantasyland.

    • Jeff Webb

      You’ve GOT to be kidding me! It’s like you don’t read my comments at all.

      Based on your statements, I could teach YOU logic. Tell you what: you can feel free to judge others once you can establish how it’s logical to supposedly have disdain for Fascists, while supporting the American government’s current attempt to take control of multiple aspects of our lives. Or how is it logical for you to chide me for my so-called hatred while being proud that you out-hate me.

      >> There is no difference between profiling and shooting,<>Second was to mischaracterize Wilson’s quote<> Starting at the beginning with you and Louis being tickled pink at the image of Feinstein using her fingers to attempt to stop the bleeding of the SF gunshot victims.<<

      Now who's mischaracterizing? First, I didn't ridicule Feinstein for the act. I ridiculed her when she the act somehow JUSTIFIED THE LAW SHE WAS PROPOSING.
      Second, the Detroit thing was about mocking the ridiculous stereotype being assigned to us. I understand you'd prefer I was only amused by Feinstein's encounter or that John would actually find it fun to sneer at poor people.

      • I Hate Fascists

        Hatred is what unites you right wingers. You hate everyone that is not you. I just hate you. Ok I apologize, you are much better at it than I am, does that make you feel better? Control of other peoples lives? Yeah one of the main purposes of government is to have a leveling effect and prevent the powerful from amassing more and more wealth leaving crumbs for everyone else. You right wingers want it the other way around, and your mission to disenfranchise liberal voters (which we have already discussed at length elsewhere and you said you had no knowledge of) is emblematic of Fascism.
        Fair enough let me restate. You can get profiled without being shot but if you are profiled and shot as Trayvon was then the shooting is just an extension of the profiling. So there was no incorrect statement to begin with, and you took the statement out of context and ignored the main point, to give you a pretext to drag Wilson into the conversation in order to castigate her for only speaking up when blacks are shot.
        Your ridiculing of Feinstein shows your contempt and hatred for her (and for good measure in the same article you showed your contempt/hatred for the Newtown parents by comparing them to NAMBLA child molesters). Stereotype? That the Koch Bros are no doubt the benefactors of this and other right wing websites as a mouthpiece for their propaganda? Your response shows your contempt/hatred towards poor people. And of course hatred of Obama which is thematic for this website and the quote below from your current article is just one of a list too numerous to mention.

        • John Daly

          >>Hatred is what unites you right wingers. You hate everyone that is not
          you. I just hate you. Ok I apologize, you are much better at it than I
          am, does that make you feel better? Control of other peoples lives?

          This post is a more embarrassing display than that Miley Cyrus dance they keep showing on the news today.

    • John Daly

      >>Fast forward to you and Daly cutting up about flying over Detroit dropping scraps of food and starting a riot.

      lol. I love it when IHF pretends to be dumber than he is for the purpose of phony outrage. It’s cute.

      • I Hate Fascists

        You are being ignored

        • John Daly

          I bet the irony of you typing that completely escapes you, huh?

  • Machetedontext

    You said it. Man oh man. When the president said the things he did I was aghast. Jaw-dropped, wide-eyed, “he said WHAT?!” Brother. Where is he now? What does he think about this crime? Like Jackson, is it to be “frowned upon?” Come 2016.

  • RoscoeBonifitucci

    ps. If Obama did indeed have a son, he would look like Karl Marx.

    • legal eagle

      If you had a son he’d look lie Archie Bunker…

  • RoscoeBonifitucci

    God Bless you and your family Bernie Goldberg. You speak the Truth.

    The only thing the Loud Mouth Racist Thug in the White House has improved in America over these past 5 years is his ability to take vacations…with our $$$ yet. If Obama had been White or a Conservative, America would have thrown him or her out of office in the first term.

    Why does Obama kill School Vouchers, promote Baby-Daddies and Race Warfare Verbiage? Why is he NOT part of the Solution? Why does he fan flames of Division in America? Facts are facts. His actions promote a Race War.

    Obama and his drones are Marxists who need to be eliminated from positions of power. They are Frauds who desire to destroy America and turn it into yet another 3rd World Socialist Dung Hill.

    Obama is a trained Marxist who has not acted like an “American” except for the Cameras, Photo-ops and Idiot Hollywood Dopers. He is NOT dedicated to following, promoting and protecting the US Constitution…let alone We The People.

    Obama’s record proves he is Dangerous to America and the World’s Peoples.

    Time to end the Tyranny of King Obama-Claus the Racist. He spreads the Evil of Socialism and Race Division.

    • Ian

      Holy S**t. What is with your odd choice of capitalization? It sounds like I’m reading a bunch of movie titles or organizational names.. Must be some sort of rhetorical ploy.

      Lemme apply some basic logic to your rhetoric…

      Quote from you: “Why does he fan flames of Division in America? Facts are facts. His actions promote a Race War. ”

      Response from Me: Everything you said above in your post is an example of how YOU are fanning the flames of “Division in America” (really looks like a bad country song title when you capitalize it like that).

      Quote from you: “They are Frauds who desire to destroy America and turn it into yet another 3rd World Socialist Dung Hill.”

      Response from Me: Why would somebody spend his entire life/career working to attain a position of power over a nation only to destroy it? Are you insane? Even if he didn’t have the people’s interest in mind, his own interests would certainly require the preservation of the state which he leads.

      Quote from You: “Obama’s record proves he is Dangerous to America and the World’s Peoples.”

      Response from Me: What records? Why don’t people like you ever cite anything factual?

      This is what I don’t get about people like you, you are constantly contradicting yourself and so many of the things you say are either unsupported, not cited, or can be easily debunked by basic logic. I don’t even have to bring opposing political arguments into play I can just find all the logical fallacies inherent in what you say. LOL!!!

      • Deborah G

        As a mental Health Physician it is called revenge for abandonment

  • Bob Hadley

    “And there’s no reason Barack Obama should say his imaginary son would look like the shooter. But then, there was no good reason for the president to say if he had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin. But he did, needlessly implying that it’s dangerous being a black kid in America when white people with guns are around.”

    “But who knows, maybe they would have shot a black jogger if that’s who was out running that day. Maybe. But there was no evidence either that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin because he was black. That didn’t stop the president from chiming in.”
    Bernie,
    Do you say these things just to see how much you can get away with? Or are you simply trying to “feed the rubes,” as a poster once remarked? I know you’re better than that.
    In the first quote, although the first sentence is correct, you imply a similarity between making that statement about Trayvon Martin and between one of the black shooters in the other case. To any thinking person this is absurd.
    When Pres. Obama made the statement about Trayvon Martin, he was trying to show empathy for the Martin family. Obviously, he did so awkwardly. (And, BTW, his remark was in answer to a question by a press person.) It’s not uncommon for people to express sympathy awkwardly in the face of tragedy. And sometimes things get very awkward or even worse when they try to express empathy for the family. I know that never happens to you, however.
    It would have been stupid if Pres. Obama sympathized or to empathized with the black shooter or his family. If he did, your shorts would be in a permanent bunch. It would have been nice, however, if he would have expressed sympathy for Chris Lane’s family – which involves one real parallel with the Trayvon case. But there are tragedies all the time in this country. Should he address every one? Did anyone ask him about Chris lane?
    I don’t think he implied that being a black kid is dangerous when white are around with guns. In fact, he emphasized in that same remark that we should all withhold judgment until all the facts come out.
    It’s been suggested that that Pres. Obama’s remark was made for political advantage. That may or may not be. The people suggesting this may or may not be haters. But they don’t know what was in his heart or mind (and perhaps they don’t care), just as I don’t know what’s in their hearts and minds (other than what can be reasonably gleaned from their language). In both cases, we should give the benefit of the doubt.
    Pres. Obama’s remark may well have had a political component.
    If I’m not mistaken, you stated on O’Reilly’s show that you think Trayvon was profiled because he was black – or at least that was part of the calculation. I assume you’re referring to the initial following of Trayvon. And, of course, if Trayvon was not followed initially, the tragedy would never have occurred.
    On the other hand, the Chris Lane tragedy was apparently a “thrill shooting.” There is no established nexus between race ( i.e. the actual shooter had posted on FB an anti-white statement days or weeks earlier) and the shooting. In fact, quite the contrary. In the case of Travyvon, there is a clear nexus for those who believe that Zimmerman initially followed Trayvon, at least in part, because he was black between race and Trayvon’s killing.

    • Tim Ned

      Richard Nixon also made a comment about Charles Manson that was highly criticized by the press for a sitting president to comment on a case during court proceedings. I believe if the press came to the rescue of Charles Manson, I am quite surprised that Zimmerman did not also get that protection by the press.

      • Bob Hadley

        Huh???
        I don’t get it (I mean, I don’t get your response – lol). If I’m not mistaken, Pres. Nixon said that Mason had actually perpetrated the Tate-LeBanca murders after Manson had been indicted but before he was convicted. If the press “came to the rescue’ of Manson, I’m unaware of it. My understanding is that the defense made a motion for a mistrial and that this motion was merely given coverage. I could be wrong on this.
        It’s been a long time since I read Vince Bugliosi’s “Helter Skelter.”
        On the other hand, don’t let Bernie’s words fool you. You need to be critical (in the true sense of the word “critical”) of everyone. Pres. Obama did NOT say or imply or even hint that Zimmerman was a murderer or say or imply or even hint that black kids are unsafe as long as whites have guns. He did two things: 1) he expressed sympathy (with an awkward attempt at empathy) with Trayvon’s family and 2) he said that everyone should withhold judgment until all the facts came out after a full investigation and the judicial process played itself out.
        As I recall, Pres. Obama only made a veiled reference to Trayvon’s race. I don’t remember him making any reference to Zimmerman’s race or skin color.
        I’ve noticed that ideologues often think that if you don’t foreclose a possibility that you endorse it. it’s this either/or or “if you’re not for, then you’re again’ me” mentality. I used to think that it was a “working the ref” tactic. But I think at least some ideologues really believe what they say.
        Pres. Obama did not jump to Zimmerman’s defense, but he also did not attack Zimmerman. In fact, I don’t think he even made reference to Zimmerman other than to say Trayvon was tragically killed. You need to understand neutrality.

        • Tim Ned

          It has been some time since I read Helter Skelter as well.

          Nixon was addressing a law enforcement group when he made the statement. It was in context to crime bills he was trying to get through congress and the attention that the Manson trials were getting in the press. Nixon really found out how much attention the press was giving the Manson case when he exited Airforce one in Denver. In fact they delayed his arrival so they could write a retraction and correction. It was a stupid statement at a time prior to the convictions.

          It was one sentence.

          The July 19 Obama multi-paragraph statement made to the house press corp briefing was a surprise and very ignorant of the facts. Read it.

          And you tell me I need to understand neutrality. In correction, the entire statement is about race. You missed that. And Obama’s statement was after the decision and a time when he had the jury decision to prepare his statement. And it was a prepared statement.

          The Martin death was a tragedy. Even Bernie Goldberg believes that there was some racial profiling involved even though the jury said no. But the jury did not render its verdict based upon race. It rendered its verdict on the fact that Martin placed one right on the nose of Zimmerman and continued the assault on top of him.

          I suspect Bob you have never been mugged. Besides the fact that I have been mugged and have had a house broken into, I also know what it is like taking one to the nose since I did a little golden gloves growing up. If you are not trained taking a perfect punch to the nose, you are nearly incapable of defending yourself.

          There are two issues here. The first are those that are sick of racial profiling. I am one of them. The second are those sick of crime. I am one of those as well. I believe President Obama is sick of number 1 but could care less about number 2 because he never addresses it.

          I’m sure Michelle and the president have nice talks about the challenges of young black men as he states. My wife does much more by taking in kids of any color, age, and crime into our house when the police of no where else to turn at 3 in the morning.

          Obama is a typical politician even in his serious press moments. He always addresses his base, like you, and never the problems.

          • Bob Hadley

            Mr. Ned,
            First, the statement Bernie referred to in his article above was made after Trayvon was shot but before any charges were brought. That was the statement that I referred to in my post that explicitly responded to Bernie’s reference. Ergo, it was reasonable for me to assume that that was the same statement you were referring to when you responded to my post. In addition, your response contained an analogy to Pres. Nixon’s statement before completion of the Manson trial.
            When Pres. Obama made his first statement concerning Trayvon’s shooting (pre-trial), he was addressing his comment mainly to Trayvon’s family – expressing sympathy/empathy – and to those in the black and liberal community/ies who were convicting Zimmerman, the Sanford police and the legal system. He wanted to calm them down and get them to withhold judgment until the system played itself out.
            When Pres. Obama made his post-trial statement, he was devoting much of his remarks to those highly critical of the uproar coming from a segment of the black community for not accepting the jury’s verdict. He was sharing some of the reasons blacks are so sensitive to being pre-judged because of their race.
            With one exception, none of the things Pres. Obama described has happened to me. I suspect that NONE of them have happened to you.
            Once I was followed in a store. I was about 10 years-old and was with about 3 other kids. We were looking for baseball cards. A clerk came up to us, asked us what we wanted and, without hesitation, told us they had no baseball cards (even though we located them seconds later). Obviously, we were profiled because we were rambunctious kids on a mission. Although I did not like that (at least as much for the perceived dishonesty of the store clerk as for being profiled), I simply shrugged off the experience.
            I have been the subject of racial animosity in other respects. Being pre-judged because of race is infinitely more disturbing. I can only imagine how it is to be pre-judged because of race on a regular or even recurring basis.
            When a seasoned and tested man like Burt P. (the guy who writes columns on this website), wildly over-reacts to a look given him by a 4 or 5 year-old black kid, you know that racial pre-judging is serious business. Even once.
            No, I haven’t been mugged. But once when I was on the mainland, I was the object of an attempted mugging. Even that was disturbing.
            If you’re insinuating that I’m soft on crime, think again. Liberals sometimes think I’m conservative because, in part, I often take a hardline approach to crime and national security. I typically take issues case-by-case, but when there’s a real crime or national security problem, I often am OK with reasonably controlled incursions into civil liberties.
            I ask you to, again, read my posts above. I think you will see what you missed before.
            For the record, I tended to believe that Zimmerman was not guilty of either murder or neg homicide almost from the beginning, even though I thought he was INITIALLY irresponsible to follow Trayvon. But I wanted to wait until the investigation and, later, the trial was completed. After watching parts of the trial, I thought the prosecution had not met its burden of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, I thought there was a large hole in the State’s case.
            Am I part of Pres. Obama’s base? Sometimes ya just gotta say I dunno.
            Perhumps :)

          • Bob Hadley

            As an addition to my post below, in his post-trial statement about the Martin shooting, Pres. Obama implied that we must all accept the jury’s verdict. Obviously, he was addressing the protesters in that part of the statement..

      • Deborah G

        That was then and this is now the NEW fundamentally changed America

        • Bob Hadley

          Pray tell, what is the NEW fundamentally changed America?

          • Deborah G

            Obamanation where teenagers can have the morning after pill without their parents knowledge, where schools teach masturbation guidelines to 4th graders, where a school in Westchester NY has two girls get up in front of a class and are taught about gay foreplay,Where hatred and racism from the black leader[morons] aginst the whites is perfectly acceptable but anyone says that George Zimmerman was hardly white they protest anyway against the whites anyway beating up innocent people who have ZERO to do with them,, when roving gangs of black kids kill a veteran and Australian student because they can. Where judges are afraid to sentance murderers because they are afraid they will be killed if the are balck, where fodtsamps have become a joke and we become the joke of thew world with this moron draawing 100 lines in the sand like a coward, where an AMERICAN president actually BOWS and apologises to arab kings. WHAT the heck are you talking about ? He’s a complete unadulterated MORON, don’t even care if he is black or white he’s a race baiter community AGITATOR not “organizer” that is ALL he is.

          • Bob hadley

            Your rant is hardly pertinent to my comment above and to Mr. Ned’s reply to my comment. The point is that Pres. Obama never said or implied or even hinted that Zimmerman murdered Trayvon AND Pres. Nixon said that Charles Manson was guilty in the Tate-LeBanca murders while Mansion was still on trial, i.e. before he was found guilty by the jury.

            If Pres. Obama had said that Zimmerman was guilty before his trial had ended, Zimmerman’s defense would probably have filed a motion for a mistrial (even though the jury was sequestered). In that event, I’m sure the press would have completely covered this and I don’t think many or any journalists or pundits would have defended Pres. Obama on this.

            As to your impertinent rant: You spouted a number of serious allegations. I suspect that you don’t place much value on your word (rants do consist of words), but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

            “…schools teach masturbation guidelines to 4th graders…”

            Which schools do this? Are these only a few of the hundreds of schools in the nation or do a large percentage of the schools do this? Are they public schools or private? I haven’t heard of this. Where did you hear about this? Certainly, you must have gotten this from at least one reliable source.

            “….where a school in Westchester NY has two girls get up in front of a class and are taught about gay foreplay,…”

            If true, this is outrageous, but still an isolated incident. From what reliable source did you get this info? What happened to the teacher? Are you somehow blaming this on Pres. Obama?

            “Where hatred and racism from the black leader[morons] aginst the whites is perfectly acceptable but anyone says that George Zimmerman was hardly white they protest anyway against the whites anyway beating up innocent people who have ZERO to do with them,…”

            Specifically, what hateful things have black leaders said? Are they as hateful as some of your rants on this blog? Yes, protest leaders of all sorts have succumbed to saying unwise things out of anger, but to categorize them as hateful is strong. Who has beat up innocent whites who have zero to do with “it”? Are you talking about one incident, a few incidents or a pattern of incidents perpetrated by a whole array of (I guess) blacks?

            “…when roving gangs of black kids kill a veteran and Australian student because they can….”

            One group of black kids killed one WW II veteran recently. It was a heinous, barbaric crime. My info was that they were immediately arrested. I hope they’re prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

            Not that it’s terrible important, the group of kids that shot that Australian student consisted of 2 blacks and one white. Apparently, race had nothing to do with this senseless, barbaric murder. The kids were immediately arrested. Apparently, it was a “thrill murder.”

            Although the actual shooter had tweeted something anti-white a few days or weeks earlier, but nonetheless no racial nexus has been established to that crime. We don’t even know if they knew the jogger’s race when the decided to shoot him. And what was the actual shooter doing hanging out with a white?

            Most importantly, are you actually trying to blame this on Pres. Obama? Do you blame that black-on-white heinous, senseless, barbaric murder in Texas on Pres. G W Bush? After all, it occurred when he was Gov. of Texas. I bet you don’t even remember the incident where two whites dragged a black by their truck until the black died.

            There have been heinous, senseless, barbaric crimes committed throughout history.

            “Where judges are afraid to sentance murderers because they are afraid they will be killed if the are balck,”

            You need to document this with reliable sources. Which judges have been afraid to sentence which black murders? Since you used the plural (i.e. “judgeS”), you must be referring to at least a smattering of such cases. I have never heard of this. If so, those judges should be impeached or, if state court judges, removed. A judge sentenced the Blind Sheik and others responsible for the 1993 WTC bombing, judges have sentenced big shots in the mafia, Rudy Giuliani has prosecuted big crime figures.

            “…this moron draawing 100 lines in the sand like a coward,…”

            Of course, you’re talking about Pres. Obama What lines in the sand has he drawn, aside from the ONE about Syria using WMDs? Hopefully, he’ll act decisively on this soon. To paraphrase Krauthammer, you’ve stumbled onto something here. Pres. Obama has been very cautious, and rightfully so. But he has probably been overly cautious at times. I think he’s using Pres. GW Bush as a negative example on this: Pres. GW Bush was impulsive, and that resulted in thousands of Americans killed and tens of thousands have their lives altered through severe disfigurement, PTSD or traumatic brain injury for a war that he imposed on us without giving us straight answers as to why he was in such a hurry to invade Iraq.

            Pres. Obama is probably over-compensating for Pres. Bush.

            “…where an AMERICAN president actually BOWS and apologises to arab kings….”
            Did you get your panties in a bunch when Pres. G W Bush strutted around the grounds of his Crawford ranch while holding hand with the Saudi Prince? How about when Pres. H W Bush bowed to the Japanese Prime Minister? I bet you didn’t even notice. No one made a big deal about these latter two incidents. But no matter what Pres. Obama does or, in the mid and late 1990′s, no matter what Pres. Clinton did, the right wing noise machine screeched away and all their followers parroted.

            .

          • learntoread

            Thank you, Bob, finally somebody with a brain. It amazes me how much some people spew out of their mouth and onto the keyboard before even considering from an objective standpoint how many contradictions and logical fallacies exist in what they are saying.

          • Bob Hadley

            Thanks Ian, for the kind word. I’m afraid even Bernie does it. Or maybe he does it deliberately, not impulsively.
            Anyway, I still respect Bernie, even though this respect is sometimes challenged. I think he’s hard on the outside but soft on the inside (hey, that sounds like what Hillary said about herself at the 1996 DNC convention – lol).
            But I wish he wouldn’t encourage all the crazies on this website.

          • lucee

            What fun woud it be, if NOT for the “crazies…” It woud fizzle out fast, like most dull, obtuse all-you-can-yap-word-buffets do, when the subject matter runs dry and so-so empty…right? :-)

          • Deborah G

            If you haven’t guessed I am a passionate person so now to answer your queries
            Schools in Wisconson and Minnesota are making it mandatory for masturbation guidelines to be discussed starting in the 4th grade ala Huffington Post and Reyters
            Next: the Westchester NY school district were teaching about accepting gays and how theyattracted oothers of the same sex, It was in the NY TIMES and the Westchester Post
            Third: .I honestly don’t have to document anything for you. All my sources are right on Google and The NY times website as well as the WSJ and of course the famous liberal Huff Post.
            Fourth I do remember and was horrified at the black man being dragged. There are murderous racists on all sides including Muslims. I dispise ALL of them
            Fith I am hardly and old lady with cats I have a fairly large business although I do have a keyboard dancer in the office.
            sixth: The black leaders rarely IF EVER come out when their thugs kill for a thrill or kill a white person their silence is deafening as well as OBama’s whgo can come out for a black professor and a hoodlum kid.
            Seventh: Clinton gots BJ’s under his desk in the oval office from an intern doesn’t get much sleezier than that to take advantage of a start struck young intern. He’s a complete molester for that
            Obama? In my opinion a complete and utter failure, a business hating , Saul Alinsky left wing AGITATOR not a community organizer like the whitewash him to be

          • Bob Hadley

            To insinuate that your posts are merely impassioned is euphemistic at best. I don’t know if you actually read your posts, but there’s a line of civility that you apparently fail to grasp. My hunch is that you simply use these posts to vent.
            You evaded my overall question: how do you blame all those particulars you cite on Pres. Obama. Remember, the discussion was primarily about Pres Obama. And your screed was purportedly describing “Obamanation.”
            I googled some of your particulars. For example, one school district in Wisconsin includes in sex education for 4th graders stuff on masturbation. It wasn’t clear when the policy was enacted. From appearances, my hunch was that it began before 2009. If so, are you going to throw a screed at Pres GW Bush???? In addition, in 2012, a policy was enacted that toned down the previous policy. Is that somehow to Pres. Obama’s credit????
            It’s beyond absurd to say that judges are being afraid to sentence black murderers. Most blacks who are convicted of murder are not connected in that manner. If anything, they’d be afraid to sentence Muslim terrorists like the Blind Sheik. I suspect that either you just made that up or you invested blind faith in someone else who just made that up. There’s a dark art to taking a set of facts and contorting them to fit your own purposes.
            And you didn’t answer my questions about whether you call Pres. GW Bush a moron for his hand-holding walk with a Saudi Prince or Pres. H W Bush for bowing to the Japanese Prime Minister.
            And BTW, I said nothing about you being an old lady with cats. You confused me for someone else.
            You’re apparently ensconced is a right-wing echo chamber.

          • lucee

            Hey, in case it hasn’t dawned on you…we are ALL here venting. Or we would be watching Boardwalk Empire or Survivor or gathering moss in some other mindless way. At least, THIS is a peripheral cognitive kick, a marginal learning experience and somewhat entertaining. That’s all it is, though, you do understad, right? If you are deluding yourself that you have a worldwide, facinated viewing audience, friend– get medicated. The gathering around the water coolers of America on Monday morning won’t be speaking your name–or mine–in awe…as a matter of fact, the people in THIS forum won’t remember the pearls of wisdom gasped and gagged out in such passion (in here) by tomorrow night. You see–This is partially for “fun,” partially for “yap therapy…” and, for some silly fools, it is a way to fantasize about what they long to be, here, in the theater of the imagination, where you can pretend to be whatever you want to be, for as long as you sign on and pay your server bill, dressed in the disguise of your keyboard and a fictitious identity. Get it? SO…Deborah is as entitled as you or anyone else to say whatever she damn well pleases…and you just have to suck it up :-) Seriously, Bob…aren’t you having fun yet?

          • Bob Hadley

            Well, at least you admit that you’re a silly fool who doesn’t accept personal responsibility (or any kind of responsibility) for what you say here. I’m sure Bernie is rhapsodic over your frankness. :)
            Aren’t I having fun???? No, this is just a way of relaxing my mind during a break from the intensity of work. :)
            And, BTW, nothing I’ve said implies that you or Deborah don’t have a perfect Bernie-given right to say foolish and irresponsible things here. :)

          • Deborah G

            By saying what he did he implied that the the black kid got murdered by the white guy [[clue is isn't whaite[] that is agitating and manipulation. NO HOPE for you libs

          • Bob Hadley

            You must have twisted yourself like a pretzel to have heard that.
            You’re wrong, as usual. By saying what he did (before Zimmerman was indicted), Pres. Obama said Trayvon’s death was tragic but that we should all hold our fire until a thorough investigation is conducted and the justice system play itself out.

            By saying what he did (after the acquittal), he gave reasons why blacks might see race as a central issue in the case but that the jury’s verdict was not unreasonable and that we must all respect the jury system.

          • Jonathan Cooper

            You are nuts. Are you one of those old ladies who lives with multiple cats? Perhaps you have contracted Taxoplasmosis and it is affecting you ability to reason.

          • lucee

            It’s toxoplasmosis…unless you are speaking to the IRS?

    • lucee

      Obama’s comment was a pander to special-interest groups. Frankly, Obama could have looked like Groucho Marx, if he had been born to Groucho’s mother…his comment was stupid and a clear pimping of his own accessibility to the “race-game.” It lowered my respect for him to a new depth, when I though it couldn’t decend any lower. Obama continues to spiral down, with each new illustration of his incompetence and inability to speak to ALL of America…and his “coulda been” blabber and yip illuminated his willingness to degrade his own heritage, dancing and prancing, along with his Chorus Line of Buffoons, to the Obamacized, Bobble-headed, sappy ObamaSongs, like a demented sock-puppet…no wonder Putin pitched Kerry back to Obama, like a bottle of knockoff Vodka– clearly indicating how little regard Obama …and BECAUSE of him–America–is held in by the world. Our allies are shaking their heads in disgust and our enemies are amused and disrespectful. THIS is what happens, when you have the wrong man in the wrong job for ALL the wrong reasons. WRONG, all over the place. God help America.

      • Bob Hadley

        Dennis? Is that you? :) Nahhhhhhhh, it couldn’t be. It’s a cheap imitation of a Dennis Miller rant.
        Pres. Obama’s first remark about the Trayvon case (before Zimmerman was indicted) was, in large part, obviously directed to members of the black community and their allies who were screaming for Zimmerman’s head on a spike. And don’t forget, it was in answer to a question.
        The first part of Pres. Obama’s second comment (post-trial) was directed at all those who were scratching their head over the cries of racism. He was offering them insights.
        The second part of this second statement of Pres. Obama (regarding the Zimmerman trial and verdict) was obviously directed to those who were crying racism. He said that the verdict did have merit and that we should all respect our jury system.

    • Deborah G

      No offense but really? If a black person sees a group of white people they run in fears? nonsense. They just pull their guns and shoot them down

      • Bob Hadley

        Huh????? Is this a reply to something I said or to something Bernie said? No offense, but you need to read more carefully. I said nothing about a black running in fear when he sees a group of whites.
        Is it your impression that all blacks, or even most blacks, carry guns???????????? If so, where did you get this impression?

  • Wil

    Hey Bernie, White guy the other day, kidnapped a 15 year old girl after he killed her mother and brother.

    Any comment?

    • DanB_Tiffin

      So, Wil the racist, remember your racist reply to the black author Kevin Jackson when he showed everyone what a fool you are in the
      comments section to his article ‘Shared’ Sacrifice Means the Poor Give Up Their Share Too by Kevin Jackson 07/24/2011

      Remember that one, racist Wil?

      You posted this:”Kevin, Everything you spew are right-wing talking points. Oh, and all 15 of my family members are white and that is something you will never be. Deal with it!”

      So, we have seen you Wil-the-racist right out in the open when your anger reveals your TRUE opinion of black people. As Doctor Phil asked, “What are YOU compensating for?”

      We know what you are compensating for with your sick liberalism. Like so many limousine liberals, you are compensating for your TRUE feelings about black people by coming to conservative sites and pontificating about how black people are always victims. That may relieve some of your guilt about your TRUE feelings, but we, here, all know better.

      • Wil

        I voted for Obama two times, how about you?

        • Jeff Webb

          Thanks, Wil, but we don’t need you to remind us that you have more ideology than intellect.

          • Deborah G

            More idiotic than intellect

        • DanB_Tiffin

          I did not vote even once for that liberal thief. I did vote for Republican Ken Blackwell for Ohio Governor though, how about you?

          As long as that Obama guy plays the victim victim victim game, and stays away from you personally, you WILL vote for him, just because he IS black, not because he has any common sense. You obviously hate them, but tolerate them under the right circumstances (as inferiors to YOU) and then you compensate in public like we see so many sick racist liberals do.

          Hey, Racist Will, I now have a great nephew and great niece – related to ME by BLOOD who have a substantial amount of Black American ancestry, from their mother, my nephew’s wonderful wife. AND IT SHOWS IN THEIR SKIN COLOR !! And we ALL love them, all three of them.

          How about you? How about any of your “15 white family members” You know, something that black Kevin Jackson will never be.
          Well?

          • Wil

            Kevin Jackson is a fraud, I don’t vote for frauds!

          • DanB_Tiffin

            That is all you can do is attack him.
            You certainly cannot defend yourself in any way
            You are proven by your own evil words to Kevin Jackson!

          • Wil

            ‘documented RACIST’

            How so?

          • Wil

            Sez you,,, prove it!

          • DanB_Tiffin

            That is the same stupid reply you gave when I told you that I had given 4.2% (or was it 4.7%?) of my gross income for the previous year to an unemployed family month by month.

            You could not grasp that real people have real charity for those who actually deserve it. You believe all must come from the liberal government, STOLEN originally from real people.

            I have black family members related to me by BLOOD you GDm racist and I do not care if you believe it or not.

            I gave money to a family in trouble, over a period of time, without any government laws forcing me to do so and I do not care if you believe it or not.

          • Wil

            I don’t have any black family members related to me by BLOOD. You do… so what! Also, I don’t believe you have ‘given’ anything to anyone in your entire life. Conservatives are greedy SOB’s.

          • Deborah G

            really I donate 30% of my sidposable income AFTER taxes to Cahrity and BTW? The cheapos are the democrats the Conservtives have always out dionated all of them including Gates and Oprah. That is easily found on Google and Snopes.

          • Wil

            Sure you do. And, who is this ‘Cahrity’ ??? a poor sister, I presume.

          • Deborah G

            My husband I worked hard all our lives and were very blessed by God for the manner in which we lived. We invested wisely and now have all the grandkids and family in a trust so we have little wants and fewer needs. Why not do God’s work? he did it for us we’re returning it to his control. The problem is libs think conservatives are evil when the reality is we have fought evil all of our lives. Liberals in my opinion are like children they can’t be trusted to make good choices.

          • Wil

            My husband I worked hard all our lives>>
            So do most people. What? Do you want a medal or something?

          • Deborah G

            nope if 57% of the country is on some sort of government benefits then NOT “most”
            people work hard all their lives and will never achive anything because of their victim mentality drilled into them by the liberals

          • Wil

            Are you and your husband getting Social Security benefits? If so, you two are among of those 57%.

          • Deborah G

            It isn’t one charity is is sevral.Most is donated to educational grants for schooling for inner city kids.look at Charter schools in the Bronx. Those kids are doing well because of private donations like ours.That is how you fix the excesses of liberalism. Educate kids in real schools.

          • Wil

            Where were you educated?

          • Deborah G

            No actually we are not that is a gross misconecption. Many are Evangelical Christians who by their beliefs give 10% to the Church or charity of their gross income. Some are just generic Chritians who feel we are obligated to be our brothers keepers and donate heavily. Some of us believe that we will be held accountable for our lives so don’t just listen to what morons tell you . It isn’t even remotely true. In fact charitable contributions by conservative out number the dollars given by Liberals. That you can verify on Snopes. That statement is as foolish as saying all Jews are cheap. Time to be intellectually honest. Conservatives are not racist by and large and are not cheap in their charitable giving.

          • Wil

            All KKK members are Conservatives, why is that?

          • Deborah G

            Actually the KK was founded by Southern Democrats. Sorry Conservatives are far more unbiased than the liberals. We didn’t ensalve the blacks to generational welfare to pander their votes we enacted civil rights.The left was dead set against it and integration. Where did you get your history from? The communist manifesto?

          • Wil

            Okay,,, All KKK members (TODAY) are Conservatives, why is that?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Says who?

          • Wil

            I’d say everyone, that aren’t right-wingers!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            And you would say that for no other reason than that you want it to be true.

          • Deborah G

            Those people are NOT conservatives they are white supremists and BTW? They aren’t democrats either they are just pure evil. Not just stupd like the libs and any moron that connects the dots to think that is a conservative doesn’t deserve an answer.

          • Wil

            Have you ever met or know a KKK member? I have and you are correct, they are evil people and they all vote Republican!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Stop lying, Wil. It’s annoying.

          • Wil

            Have I hit a nerve? I didn’t know, I really didn’t.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Yes. Incessant liars strike a nerve with me. Go figure.

        • Deborah G

          I spit on his name on the ballot 2 times how about you? I voted for a Patriot not America hating liberal garbage

          • Wil

            Deborah, you are a very sick person. Please get help.

          • Jeff Webb

            Again, Wil, where did the kidnapping/murder happen?

          • Wil

            Explain?

          • John Daly

            I think Jeff just wasn’t sure which story you were referring to. It’s the Hannah Anderson story, Jeff.

          • Jeff Webb

            That’s why I was puzzled. There was no report about a 15-year old girl abducted the other day. Hannah was 16, and abducted 3 weeks ago. (This happened near where I work. I was on my tablet at lunch when the headline came up about the perp’s death. Made my and my co-workers’ day.)
            Wil getting it wrong, and avoiding a chance to correct himself–not the least bit puzzling.

          • Deborah G

            I am a very well person not a sick liberal

          • Wil

            I hope you are on someone’s watchlist.

          • Deborah G

            Hahaha such a typical weenie liberal whine. Oooooh OOOOh oooooohhhhhhhhhhh waaaah waaaaaaaaaaaah wah call the teacher . You guys are pathetic honestly what little morons you are. watch list? Yeah the maitre D` at Chez Louis watches the reservation list for my name so I get to dine every Saturday hahahaha watch list are you people for real?

          • Wil

            Deborah, Now, You are scaring me. Get help from a qualified psychiatrist. I hear they have made great strides, in treating the mental condition, you are suffering.

          • Deborah G

            And what exactly would that be? Honesty? Integrity and the ability to say what I think and believe . That ILLNESS is free speech nothing you liberals want anyone but yourself to have

          • Wil

            Please stay away from deadly items and high ledges. I’m worried about you.

          • Deborah G

            Worry about your future I can take care of myself. Thanks for the concern though

          • Wil

            I’ve got your back Deborah.

          • Deborah G

            Why thank you kindly Wil! I appreciate the support for our cause. Anything to get rid of the libs and bring honor and Patriotism back where it belongs. Thanks so much!

    • JohnKohos

      What are you suggesting? Is that a response to something? Are you disputing the claim that “almost every murder in NYC is committed by a person of color”? Would the actions of one white man offset that?

      • smorkingapple

        No, but let’s use the logic the OP (and many others here) are trying to use. Most crimes are committed by black people so we should be wary of black people(young black men) until they prove themselves harmless. But most kidnappings(like the case mentioned) are committed by white people, but yet no one bats an eye or thinks to paint the entire white male population with such a broad brush as serial kidnappers. We could extend this to many other things as well such as terrorism(more white guys have bombed this country than blacks), pedophilia, and other crimes.

        The larger point no one wants to address here is the use of stats to back up prejudiced notions. Many people have a need to believe blacks are just predisposed to crime by nature so they’ll latch onto these statistics and say “hey!! I was right!!”. Well we can play that game all night long in ways you won’t like. We can bring up incest stats to show whites are more likely to commit it and then justify the notion that whites are inherently sick and perverted. That’s retarded right? So why isn’t it when you practice it the other way around?

        What this warped logic also ignores is that crime is always a function of proximity and opportunity. So yeah 94 % of blacks are killed by other blacks. 86% of whites are killed by other whites. Well duh, whites live among whites and blacks among blacks. Do we also have a white on white problem? Why is that never mentioned? It’s obvious there’s a need to promote the myth of inherent black criminality while simultaneously ignoring the social environment and the disparate criminal justice treatment.

        • JohnKohos

          Being considered guilty until proven innocent is a terrible burden for anybody to carry. But suspicion is in the eye of the beholder. And having an overwhelming proportion of people from one visible community committing violent crimes is going to have a predictably chilling effect on everybody else.

          When a woman clutches her purse more tightly because a young black man steps into an elevator next to her, you can call it prejudice. Or you can call it fear. I guess it depends on your agenda. But I don’t blame the woman. Why not blame the violent young criminals who generated that fear in overwhelming numbers.

          I’m not sure what that has to do with kidnappers and pedophiles. I wasn’t aware that young black males were being targeted for investigation of those crimes. And I didn’t know that 86% of murdered whites are murdered by other whites. Not do I know how significant that number is against the total number of murders overall. Perhaps you have more information that I do.

          In any event, to go back to the article above, can you cite two examples of blacks killing whites where they were discussed or presented as acts of racism in the media?

          Can you point to examples anywhere in the media that acknowledges an act of racism, hatred or bigotry by blacks against whites?

          Can you point to any prosecution of blacks for hate crimes against whites?

          Is that because there is no racism, hatred or bigotry by blacks against whites? Or is there a double standard?

          There is a difference between equality and payback.

          • smorkingapple

            “When a woman clutches her purse more tightly because a young black man steps into an elevator next to her, you can call it prejudice. Or you can call it fear. I guess it depends on your agenda. But I don’t blame the woman. Why not blame the violent young criminals who generated that fear in overwhelming numbers.”

            But a black person would be irrational if they also had fear when a white pickup truck with the dixie flag pulls up next to them? Or when a 8 cops have to stop and frisk you a block from your home? How about when some random stranger in FL comes asking what you’re doing in the neighborhood? Let’s not blame the black guy, let’s blame the KKK members, racist cops and wannabe vigilantes who generated that fear in overwhelming numbers. Let’s ignore the fact that blacks statistically should fear other blacks more often. This is my point, you and I can play that game all night long.

            As for white on white crime, look at FBI stats. None of these numbers are surprising. Guess what, in Muslim countries, Muslims mostly kill guess who? Other Muslims. You do know more Israeli’s died at other Israeli’s hands than Palestinians right? Is there a Israeli on Israeli problem? You will kill who is closest to you. The fact you act surprised at the white on white stat just shows how much you’ve been led to believe black on white crime is a serious epidemic.

            “Can you point to examples anywhere in the media that acknowledges an act of racism, hatred or bigotry by blacks against whites?”

            Ummm because there’s also a 400 year history of black on white oppression that makes it equal right? There’s no historical context for when a white person commits a hate crime or displays racist behavior? The two will never be treated equally because of that history until the ripple effects are over with. Which will be never. White crime against black people has a historical context to it that black against white crime does not. White crime against black people STILL impacts the black community today. That’s why the coverage is lopsided.

            And as I asked another commenter, would you trade evenness in media coverage for racism, hate crimes, etc if it meant all the benefits you derive from being white were made the same as being black? If you love the benefits of being born with a skin color, you have to accept the drawbacks too. Always note the slanted coverage you feel happens today doesn’t even come close to the coverage back in the slavery or Jim Crow days.

          • Deborah G

            waaaaaawaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa the fact is these guys aren’t scared they are just punks. Show me ONE black man afroiad of a white person in America these days? FYI The Irish were beaten up and treated pretty badly you don’t see them carrying a 100 year old grudge they just toughed it out and built a lot of great bars LOL

          • Deborah G

            The reality is more white and Hispanic men are pedophiles so if you see a weird white/Brown guy near your kids grab them and run. Ain’t profiling a wonder?

          • JohnKohos

            That seems reasonable enough. I certainly wouldn’t attack you for doing that.
            Sent from a mobile device

        • DanB_Tiffin

          Remember when Jesse Jackson himself said, “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps… then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

          Change the subject all you want to.

          • Deborah G

            Then as an intelligent man he should promote good behavior and call these gangsta wannabes to accountability. He should go speak to the communities about personal responsibility. Here’s my tale on black men , Pimps, drug dealers, wife beaters, child abusers and ireresponsible oversexed morons without a shred of personal responsibility. CHANGE THAT Reverand and I’ll be happy to respect you for the content of your heart.

          • repent

            “Here’s my tale on black men , Pimps, drug dealers, wife beaters, child
            abusers and ireresponsible oversexed morons without a shred of personal
            responsibility. ”

            You think, and are so bold as to say, that just because a man is black that he is a pimp, drug dealer, wife beater, child abuser, and irresponsible oversexed moron without a shred of personal responsibility? You clearly have not known many if any black men in your sheltered existence. Are the only black men you “know” the ones from horror stories your racist parents told you about? Or the racist media told you about? Or your racist friends told you about? You have some major issues, and if you believe in hell, you better believe you will be going there.

          • Deborah G

            Turn on any TV and look at the wonders from Detroit on Pawn Stars. The wonder of the black leaders

          • Deborah G

            I am hardly sheltered, I own a business and live in a diverse community. The reality is there are few great black men like Ben Carson , Alan West, Herman Cain . IF you go into the black neighborhood[that is if you dare] you seen beat up houses, kids all over the place with no supervidion, drug dealers openly dealing,Go to the store EBT cards everywhere,. I don’t hate blacks I see it for the lIberal tragedy it is. IF I ever won the lottery the fist thing I would do is get that principlal from the Bronx and open another school for those hopelss children to get educated. You mistake clarity of vision for racism. I don’t approve at all of what the liberal policies have done to the race. It is a disgrace. Before generational welfare the blacks were moving North to good jobs, supporting families and coming into their own. Then the racist Johnson and his great society turned them into slaves once again. When the strong black familiy disintegrated this is what happened. There are many good black people but they are siilenced by the people in their own neighborhoods.

        • Deborah G

          Add up the number of kidnappings and compare to black violent crimes case closed. FYI YOU should be wary of strange white me and that’s a fact and you should be leary of a group of black kids acting like gangsta’s That’s not racist either it’s just self preservation.

          • learntoread

            It is racist because you felt so inclined to include the word “black”. So you’re saying if a group of white kids are acting like “gangstas” you shouldn’t be afraid???

    • legal eagle

      It was race related…

      • Deborah G

        Everything is race related to morons

        • Ian

          Clearly, you are a moron then. Since, looking through all your comments, you keep bring up “race”. Do you even know what “race” is? When you say “race” it seems like you are referring to the color of people’s skin.. Let me tell you a little bit about the color of our skin, and why it is that color, and why it does not matter.

          Pigmentation of our skin is a necessary biological process in order to maintain a balance between two necessary nutrients in our body: Folic acid, and Vitamin D. Ultraviolet (UV) radiation (light) destroys folic acid (which is why pregnant women should avoid excessive exposure to UV radiation), whereas it is necessary to perform the photochemistry involved in the biosynthesis of vitamin D within our body. Our body uses pigmentation to balance these nutrients on two time scales- the immediate time scale (within our lifetime) and the long term time scale (through multiple generations i.e. evolution).

          You are probably familiar with how our bodies can adapt on the immediate time scale to increased exposure to UV radiation- tanning.

          On the other hand you may not be aware that over the course of generations we evolve as an organism to better fit the environment we are in.

          Get this, Deborah.

          If you were to move a population of light-skinned people from the northern hemisphere to somewhere in the southern hemisphere such as South America or Africa or Australia (indigenous Australians are dark-skinned, colonial Australians come from Europe), within a matter of only 500 years or so the population will have evolved to possess darker pigmentation in response to the increased UV exposure (this is, of course, assuming that the population is actually under this environmental pressure, which in this day and age they would not be since modern technology would protect them from the sun or provide the needed folic acid). The opposite case is true, too. A population of dark-skinned people moved to an area of less UV exposure would eventually develop lighter toned skin in order to moderate the balance between folic acid and vitamind D, unless of course technology is shielding the population from the environmental pressure (vitamin D enhanced milk/bread/etc).

          Skin color is just that- color.

          You obviously have a problem with a specific culture of violence, and through your ignorance you have decided to necessitate the association of this culture with a specific skin color.

          • Deborah G

            Blah Blah blah it isn’t color it is the perception of color alowing blacks to be thought of and taught to be perennial victims and granted special treatment that only the Democrats can save. I never used to even think of color in fact I come from a fairly mixed family but this man has divided this country like no other based soolely on skin color and victimology.

          • Deborah G

            It is still reality that darker pigments people no matter their origins {Africa] or wherever have the most violent crimes. Maybe it is a Vitamin D overload LOL That would be some excuse you libs could believe instead of them just being violent right? Have to be something OTHER than their race. and yes it is race. whatever the reason these folks have lived in a Western Counmtry for sevral centuries and have not gotten lighter so for better or worse they are called black. Im not going to be around for multiple centuries to wait and see if three black guys trying to kill me are turning lighter.

    • Jeff Webb

      >>Hey Bernie, White guy the other day, kidnapped a 15 year old girl after he killed her mother and brother.

      Any comment?<<

      Hadn't heard about this. Where did it happen?

    • Deborah G

      Yes I have a comment demented is demented but more rare in whites than blacks statistically

      • learntoread

        Source???

  • logic

    1 black with white girl friend , 1 biracial ( luna) with what seems to be a white mother. and 1 maybe looks fully white or maybe his is mixed as while. So is this a self hating crime going on and also they threatened to kill another teen they knew, I know for sure that kid father was black so maybe he too is black. This was not a race issue people so stop acting as if it is.

    • Deborah G

      Are you on glue? The one kid tweeted he hated whites and beat up 5 “woods” DUH? You like the rest of the libs always try to hide the black on white attacks. Like it is some PC smear against you… WELL? IT IS you have made them what they are by your racist policies now you want to deny the failure. When you enslave people to poverty and irresponsibility and have zero accountability this is exactly what you get. BEFORE the racist generational welfare black FAMILIES were strong, very little out of wedlock children and the worst you could say is they sometimes had aclcoholism but at the same rate as whites.They were productive and trying to mainstream life. You libs set them back 100 years to the plantaion slavery they tried to flee. Detroit was an up and coming city with good jobs for blacks yet the unions and Democrats managed to ruin that for them . See what ye have wrought?

      • ivannavi

        The comment by LOGIC is what most of the esteemed leaders within the black community want their followers to parrot.

        Too many of them have been rendered mindless after +50 years of what has been preached within those communities.

        Their leaders are no better than the African tribal chiefs who sold their ancestors years ago and they continue to be enslaved by the plethora of the hateful rhetoric being spewed forth. It’s black men who keeps their people in chains!

    • DanB_Tiffin

      “This was not a race issue people so stop acting as if it is.”
      Do you mean like Zimmerman/Martin?

    • Deborah G

      It absolutely was. They had Tweets saying the were going to beat some’Woods” that’s gehtto sland for white people. documented

  • http://theromancatholicvote.com/ catholicvoter

    What is becoming more and more obvious is that whites, far from being prejudice because they see blacks as inferior, are fed up with all the special treatment blacks receive in this country including having to walk on egg shells around them or any matter having to do with race. It is sad for successful blacks because people simply do not believe they did it on their own. They are automatically suspect because of all the programs out there to help minorities, especially blacks. This is happening with females in certain fields as well because cowardly companies hire based on gender and race rather than who is right for the job and it is becoming so clear that it is impossible to deny. Tis is happening especially in the fields of medicine and engineering. Smart blacks and females should be furious because they are seen as being catered to when in fact, they are good at what they do because they have a gift and they worked very hard. I hope the USA gets its act together. There’s no place to go for true freedom anymore. Those of us with kids and grandkids can’t help but be very concerned.
    All this leads back to this: a criminal is a criminal regardless of his or her skin color. Let’s treat minorities like responsible human beings rather than two year olds who don’t know any better and who can’t do anything right by themselves. The black community will flourish if they are held accountable.

    • Deborah G

      Amen sister

      • legal eagle

        Why didn’t Harris Faulkner get the job on Fox & Friends instead of that dumb blonde Elizabeth Hasselbeck? It’s called racial bias…

        • Seattle Sam

          So of all the possible answers to that question (about which you have absolutely no information) you choose “racial bias”? Couldn’t possibly be that Ms.Hasselbeck is better known and would bring an audience from her current show. Nope. Must be “racial bias”. Right.

          • legal eagle

            I guess you don’t believe discrimination against minorities still exists? I think I said that previously….

          • John Daly

            Why do you guess that when you’ve already admitted that it is a viewpoint you completely made up?

          • Deborah G

            Mostly because Liberal policies have made them less sucessful ergo less employable. The person to get hired is the most competant. Not because of affirmative action and diversity PC BS

          • legal eagle

            What policies are you referring to?

          • legal eagle

            Perhaps.. one can always find a defense for workplace discrimination….That’s why you’d never be allowed on a jury trying a discrimination case…
            Perhaps only blondes can be hosts on Fox & Friends?
            Perhaps minorities are unqualified to host Fox & Friends?
            Perhaps Harris Faulkner is unqualified because she’s married to a white guy?
            Perhaps…….

          • DanB_Tiffin

            In the past it was said,

            “Republicans elect black representatives from majority white districts.
            Democrats never elect black representatives from majority white districts. Black Democrat representatives are only elected in black districts.
            After two centuries of discrimination and segregation, white Liberal Democrats still can’t bring themselves to elect black representatives.”

            IS that still the case? I don’t know and I don’t care, but it sure WAS the case for a long long time.
            Is THAT called racial bias…Or is it all… just… COINCIDENCE? Hmmmmmmmmm. One more time! Hmmmmmmmmmm.

          • legal eagle

            Hard to respond to total nonsense…It was said in the past? when the 1950′s?

          • Deborah G

            i’ll second that Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm The moron is just that a moron

          • John Daly

            Perhaps a black woman was not worthy of becoming your wife.
            Perhaps……

          • legal eagle

            Hasselbeck is younger , has more kids, is dumber , is not as pretty etc…She is better qualified…

          • Deborah G

            I happen to have met Harris Faulkner over the summer at a party. She was offered the job but likes her current schedual and working with and being mentored by one of her best friends Shepard Smith who has been a long time top news anchor.She is waiting for a position she has been promised and she she wants to develope herself, There was a group discussion and Hasslebeck got the approval of all of them.They are very happy to have her and al of them are respectful of her contribution to the mix. So take your nonsense innuendo’s and stuff them. Adults in the room don’t listen to garbage like you spew.

        • John Daly

          Is your wife black, legal eagle? If not, does that mean you’re a racist?

          • legal eagle

            I know you’re smarter than that dumb statement…You have a highly qualified black woman who has been a long time employee but you pass her up for the blonde to replace the last blonde. COINCIDENCE?

          • John Daly

            Were there no black women qualified to be your wife, legal eagle? Are you saying that you couldn’t love a black woman? There are a lot of black women in this country after all, yet you didn’t marry one. Were you unable to find any that were good enough for you to marry?

            Or is it all… just… COINCIDENCE? Hmmmmmmmmm. One more time! Hmmmmmmmmmm.

          • legal eagle

            Well as I only have one wife and marriage is not subject to the Civil Rights Act your point, while humorous, is irrelevant to anyone over 10 years old…

          • John Daly

            It was TOTALLY irrelevant… Which was the point. I did EXACTLY what you did by asserting that choosing someone to fill a role, who happens to be white instead of black, can only be racial bias.

            Frankly, your point was so unbelievably asinine that I still can’t believe you even tried to make it… even with the very low bar you’ve set for yourself.

            And though you’ll never admit it, we both know that I absolutely killed your ridiculous argument. Poor Wil, however, is still trying to figure out what’s going on. lol

            It mirrored your assertion that if I white person is chosen over a black person, the only possible answer is racial bias.

          • John Daly

            It was TOTALLY irrelevant… Which was the point. I did EXACTLY what you did by asserting that choosing someone to fill a role, who happens to be white instead of black, can only be racial bias.

            Frankly, your point was so unbelievably asinine that I still can’t believe you even tried to make it… even with the very low bar you’ve set for yourself.

            And though you’ll never admit it, we both know that I absolutely killed your ridiculous argument. Poor Wil, however, is still trying to figure out what’s going on. lol

          • Wil

            Poor Wil, however, is still trying to figure out what’s going on>>

            Maybe, but I do know the quota for whites is nearly 100%!

          • Deborah G

            has to be after all only the liberals know reality

          • Wil

            John, Did you marry a black woman? If not, why not?

          • Guest

            It’s television. Maybe blonds get better ratings.

          • DanB_Tiffin

            No, no, no!
            Liberals have a quota system for everything! If others do not follow that quota system, that is PROOF of racism!!!

          • legal eagle

            Morons like you have no quota system …

          • Jeff Webb

            Noteworthy phrasing, with the last 4 words of the sentence utterly contradicting the definition of the first word.

            A fascinating concept, which I shall discuss with Jayson Blair next time I see him.

          • Deborah G

            Hahaha the poster child for affirmative action resides in our White House, I think they thought they needed their quaota filled. At least harry reid did when he said Obama was an accepptable negro who didn’t talk like one. They forget their own racism from their leaders.

          • legal eagle

            It’s bitter old white guy television and you’re probably right…

          • Deborah G

            Pleasent people always look better looking people get better ratings maybe that’s why Chris Mathews and Rachel Madcow ratings are in the dumpster

          • Deborah G

            jews love to say they are so liberal and are for the downtrodden then call blacks shwatkas. The use the N word they just say it in yiddish

    • QueenBeeWorld

      Let’s treat minorities like responsible human beings? You’re preaching to the choir. Why don’t you tell that to Sharpton and Jackson. I know blacks who are more than capable, yet Sharpton and Jackson talk like the black community always needs a helping hand, and they’re always pandering to them. They’re the problem…

  • Drew Page

    You hit the nail on the head Bernie. Not only has the President been silent on the Oklahoma shooting of the white ball player by three teenagers, two of whom are black, so has the NAACP, Sharpton, Eric Holder and the MSM. The same lack of outrage, from the same group mentioned here, was evidenced when two black teenagers shot a 13 month old child, Antonio West, in the face and killed him because his mother had no money to give to her robbers. BTW, they shot the mother also, but she survived. What did we hear from Jackson, Sharpton, Eric Holder, the Black Congressional Caucus, the NAACP and the MSM? Crickets. their silence is deafening.
    This, and all Obama wants to talk about is how humiliated he was to be followed around in a department store. And of course there is his unforgettable comment “the police acted stupidly” when they dared to question a black history professor in Massachusetts when a neighbor called police when they saw a black man trying to break into the professors home. As it turned out, it was the professors own home, where he locked himself out of his own house and left the keys inside. Instead of cooperating with the police in a peaceful manner and showing his ID, the professor wanted to give the cops a hard time, telling them they had no right to question him. Another example of white police humiliating and demeaning all black people.
    Mr. Obama is supposed to be the president of all Americans. Should he not be equally upset when black kids kill white kids, or other black kids, or when white people kill other whites? Or is his sympathy only for blacks killed by whites? Mr. Obama was touted by his supporters as the man who was going to transcend racial politics and unite Americans. In reality, he has done just the opposite. HIs strategy of divide and conquer and class warfare has worked quite well. Americans are more polarized today than since the days of the Vietnam war. Mr. Obama has successfully turned poor against rich; young against old; black against white; gays against straights; union against non-union; and people who don’t pay taxes against those who do. Congratulations, Mr. President, you have succeeded in dividing us along all lines and on all issues. How proud you must be.

    • legal eagle

      This same nonsensical rant from poor whites has been going on since 1964….Simply Amazing

      • metheoldsarge

        You tell them Kool-Aid drinker.

      • logic

        You are aware luna mother is white right? P.,S LUNA IS THE LIGHTER ONE OF THE TWO BLACK MEN.

  • FloridaJim

    Obama has been raised by whites, grown up with whites, attended schools with whites and had to move to Chicago to learn how to be black. He was mentored in Chicago by Jesse Jackson, Earl Jones, Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers , Valerie Jarrett and Louis Farrakhan. If Obama had been harmed or abused by whites he might have something important to contribute as it is he only demagogues the issue, as he does most.

    • Drew Page

      And who does he lionize in his book, “Dreams From My Father”? The black father who walked out on him when he was a little boy. Go figure.

      • Deborah G

        That’s what blacks think is normal. A fleeing father no child support and welfare the Democrats taught them that then gave them money to make them repeat it over and over

    • Deborah G

      he’s a stone cold radical period

      • legal eagle

        Making up more crap like your story about Harris Faulkner?

  • Deborah G

    It is very simple
    Victim mentality people lose
    acheivers win it has zero to do with the color of their skin. If you choose to be a victim you can be one.No excuses from people like Dr Carson, Alan West or any oither black person who sees the route to equality is having integrity and hard work.The victims that call the race card are the exact opposite of what the great MLK stood for.

  • Joe Palmer

    TYPICAL , wonder why WE profile?

    • Deborah G

      The idea behind profiling is to identify statistical analysis numbers to better protect people from the exact people purpetrating said crimes. IF spotted great Danes were killing children wouldn’t it be wise to do the math and probability so if you see a loose big dog with spots you can run?

      • legal eagle

        Great Theory…However profiling is against the law…

        • Deborah G

          I think you need a refresher course the SUpreme court doesn’t think so Stop and Frisk is alive and well hopefully for your sorry liberal ass to get saved.

          • legal eagle

            New York Stop and Frisk was just ruled unconstitutional in Federal Court. Supreme Court decision in “Terry” is much more nuanced. I’d cite something for you to read but I doubt you’re interested in the facts.

          • Deborah G

            I’m not interested in anything morons have to say. A waste of air

          • legal eagle

            I understand you’re in the ignorance is bliss crowd….Maybe you can discuss it with your buddy Harris Faulkner?

          • Deborah G

            I’;ll ask her tonight after the Hampton Classic Horse Show is over. good party weekend.

          • legal eagle

            I’m sure…I used to be a Hamptons regular in the 80′s…Ask her why, after 20 years in the news biz, she is content on being a weekend anchor?

          • Deborah G

            She likes the hours and she likes the job simple as that. Harris doesn’t see racism in every word like you do nor do the people she works for . Grow up You know this is why people don’t like to converse with you. You are an annoying Mama’s boy who seens to be here only as a troll . My guess by your posts you have no outlet. Try a hooby you stink at uintelligent discourse. Arrested development is my guess if you are older than 14

        • DanB_Tiffin

          You are obviously no legal-anything if you have never heard of criminal profiling.

          • legal eagle

            Another moronic statement…Criminal profiling involves looking for a suspect after a crime is committed not looking for someone who might commit a crime…

          • DanB_Tiffin

            YOU, phony moron, are the one who said
            “profiling is against the law”
            It is NOT. I can do any profiling anytime I want to, whether it hurts your sniveling little liberal FEELINGS or not!
            We know that according to your codependent kind, criminals are all just “poor disenfranchised victims of social injustice” and it is cruel to hurt them.

  • Ted

    The president essentially put a target on white folks.

    • legal eagle

      You’d better stay home and avoid those colored folks….

      • Deborah G

        You better stay home and stop polluting the air with garbage

  • Manish Gupte, PhD

    Juvenile crime and racism around me. Fraud in elections. Corruption by Bain capital.

    • Ksp48

      Corruption by Bain Capital? Slooooooowly, very slooooowly remove the needle from your arm.

      • Manish Gupte, PhD

        Cquotient recieved funding from Scott Friend who was or still is at Bain. Rama radhakrishnan is a founder. Bharath Krishnan was an early employee. These two used to work for Oracle Inc. I was treated badly at that office so that Oracle would be forced to buy this business. Steven Jeffereys and Peter Gaidarev are suspects. Abuse of NSA spying.

        • Manish Gupte, PhD

          These people mostly worked for Mitt Romney’s campaign and they knew people in the Obama campaign. Now they are trying to shut me up. Flip flops were result of their statistics (analytics, big data) product.

          • Deborah G

            I think you are paranoid. India is a better place for you I promise

        • John Daly

          How do we know that Halliburton wasn’t involved as well?

          • Manish Gupte, PhD

            There are more people also. Some claimed to be “british royalty”. Andrea Morgan Van Dome is a suspect. This person has been speaking to my spouse in another town also. These people say they are “hold her hostage” so that I “behave properly”. Investigate. This is abuse of NSA spying.

          • John Daly

            Do they all meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows?

          • Manish Gupte, PhD

            These people have access to my laptop’s microphone and speakers. When I am “cleaning my pipe” these people mention notions of life I respect. My Goddess, mother, other respected aspects of life. This is like assault on my private parts! This is rape! Investigate! Indian consulate in NY has information on me. Yes..this is unbelievable..white collar people holding respectable positions..

          • John Daly

            Yep, that’s about what I figured.

          • I Hate Fascists

            I usually get my Goddess to clean my pipe.

          • Manish Gupte, PhD

            This sort of talk is against my basic religious beliefs.

          • Deborah G

            Call Obama he’s really good at making sure people have their religious rights………….IF you are Muslim if not tough toenails

          • I Hate Fascists

            What exactly did they do to your private parts? It sounds very romantic. Did you scream?

          • Deborah G

            Go back to India you moron

        • Deborah G

          Right and I’m a pink pPanda. YOU were trested poorly so a huge corporation would be forced to buy this company? Awhat have you been smoking? hasish?

          • Manish Gupte, PhD

            Companies are bought for their intellectual property. If I was allowed to work clean with Oracle they would not have required buying this company. Markets talk loudest.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Or a Pink Pussycat?

    • John Daly

      lol @ Bain Capital. Haven’t heard that one in a while.

      • Manish Gupte, PhD

        See my comments to the other response.

        • Deborah G

          Baloney and you are an acedemic moron, not an American Patriot

    • Deborah G

      Bain Capital is far from corrupt it is a wel run company that is scucessful. You have fallen for the Socilaist BS that sucess and profit is bad.,

      • Manish Gupte, PhD

        No no..I have my company too and we compete with Bain capital investments. So, I have to be even more careful when saying such things. Yes, scott friend at Bain capital invested in cquotient. These people were trying to get acquired by Oracle. They had friends in Oracle. I was a scientist there. They made efforts to slow down research and product development so that Oracle could be forced to buy this company. Then it is likely some of them went to join Mitt Romney’s campaign. They created this Flip flop machine. It is a coincidence it is similar to my work on managerial appraisals. It is likely John Barron and Ralph Siebert were in this. They were on my doctoral committee. As it comes out from what I have seen, the lack of ethics and strong believe that “talk is cheap”, resulted in this analytics product.

        • Manish Gupte, PhD

          Efforts to discredit ProfitLogic the company which developed pricing products around 2000 or so are being made. Some of these people I complain about are from ProfitLogic. However, there are many who are indeed good.

        • Deborah G

          HAHAHAH Now that is funny. YOU have your “own” company that “competes” with Bain? …..guess what? You lose hahahahahaha so there isn’t any little drop of envy there to cause your libel?

          • Manish Gupte, PhD

            Great..file libel if you can..

      • legal eagle

        Do you have any clue what Bain capital does?

        • Deborah G

          Absolutely do you “GET” Turnaround” Venture capital? Capitalism? America?

          • legal eagle

            so they manufacture anything? Create any jobs? They are bottom fishers….

          • Deborah G

            lawyers don’t “manufacture” anything nor do any service or finanacial entity. You are great at faulty premise for your arguments better brush up on that if you want to go to law school.

          • legal eagle

            I agree….that lawyers provide a service….I also worked n Wall Street for 10 years so I know how bottom fishers like Bain Capital make their money….

          • John Daly

            They have a far better job creation record than Obama does, legal eagle. A fact-based guy like yourself should have discovered that during your trademark, extensive research.

  • legal eagle

    Maybe Bernie can tell us why Fox News has no Black or Jewish people hosting their shows? Coincidence?

    • genann59

      You actually know the religious affiliation of all the hosts on Fox? How? Except for MSNBC how many other networks have black hosts? And do you also claim to know the religious affiliation of all the hosts on the other networks? The young lady who heads Fox’s religion section, I don’t know if she is their producer or director or what is black. Quite a few of their fill in hosts are black on Fox. But for the most part I can’t make any claim to knowledge or reason to look into TV personalities religious affiliation. Why would you be so interested in their religious affiliation that it would make a difference to you? Do you even know if they all go to a church or belong to a religion at all, and what does that matter?

      • legal eagle

        Harris Faulkner is not a host….The hosts make the money..If you wish to ignore the facts then ignorance is bliss….If you don’t care whether they have any minorities as hosts…then you don’t understand what the term discrimination means nor do you probably care..

        • legal eagle

          By the way…the only Jewish “host” on Fox News is Geraldo Rivera….

          • autofixer

            He is a White-Hispanic like Zimmerman.

          • John Daly

            So?

          • John Daly

            Didn’t you say earlier that there are NO Jewish hosts on Fox News?

        • Deborah G

          She makes a ton of money enough for a Hamptons hideaway LOL Get some facts

          • legal eagle

            What part of the Hamptons?

        • Jimmy Cooper

          So wrong she host regularly on more than one program, and is one of my favorite Fox News personalities!

          • legal eagle

            She is not an anchor and you have no idea what she makes …do you?

      • Jackryanvb

        Jews are a racial, ethnic group, not just a religion.

        Some Jews, a very small number are “conservatives”, those are mostly of the Neo Conservative, pro Israel sub set, or some form of Libertarian, which is 98% the same as Jewish Leftist, cultural Marxist on issues of immigration, homosexual marriage equality, hatred of all things traditional, White, Chrisitan.

        Most Jews are standard New York City, Harvard, Washington Post Hollywood Liberal/Left.

        The Jewish ethnic group dominates the US media, except Fox.
        Even Fox toes the Neo Conservative pro Israel party line.

        Any other questions?

        • legal eagle

          Thanks for your anti-Semitic rant…..Sounds like you’ve done vast research on the Jewish Community in the U.S…Don’t forget, we Jews also run Wall Street, Hollywood, the banks and we drink the blood of Jesus when we’re thirsty…LMAO

          • Jackryanvb

            Hey legal eagle…

            Are there Chinese people in China? If you say “Yes” does that make you an evil racist?

            Are there Arab Muslim people in Saudi Arabia? Yeah a few, I hear they also aren’t real keen on gay and lesbian rights or religious pluralism…..

            RACIST!

            How about noticing that Haiti, Zimbabwe, Detroit are rather… BLACK African something.

            In my city of Chicago, there is an organization called:

            The Black Gangster Disciples, some politically incorrect people have suggested this group is mostly “Black” and might be associated with criminal gang activity.

            And a few others from Dolly Parton, Marlin Brando, the Shah of Iran, that White Hispanic guy named Sanchez urged from CNN have noticed that there are a lot of Jews running the US media.

          • legal eagle

            Who did I call racist?

      • legal eagle

        CNN has minority hosts? NBC has minority hosts? ABC has minority hosts?

    • John Daly

      Well OBVIOUSLY they’re both racist and antisemitic, right?

      I mean… Clearly a cable news network like Fox News that employs many blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, and people from many other ethnic backgrounds HAS to be racist if none of their limited number of show-host positions are filled by black or Jewish people.

      Well, except for Juan Williams who is one of the hosts of the Five and a guest-host on the O’Reilly Factor when he’s not a featured regularly on practically every other Fox News show along with many other black commentators. And Williams’ regular panel seat on both Special Report and Fox News Sunday (two of the network’s marquee shows) is CLEARLY an attempt by Fox News to try and claim that network is not racist. And Charles Krauthammer is sitting alongside him to serve the same purpose when it comes to antisemitism. We know the truth though. We’re not dumb.

      Williams and Krauthammer are merely pawns, as is Geraldo Rivera who hosts his own show on the network. Same goes for Bernie Goldberg when he appears on O’Reilly. You think he’s on for his media analysis??? Nope. He’s just there to mask Bill O’Reilly’s Nazi-like instincts

      Thank you, legal eagle for helping expose Fox News’ klan-like agenda! You’ve done a true public service today.

      • legal eagle

        Please….I’m stating a fact….You interpret it any way you’d like…I clearly referred to “hosts”…..If you don’t understand discriminatory hiring that’s fine…..Same argument made in every discrimination lawsuit since 1964..

        • Deborah G

          You must be a bald eagle lol you certainly are a poor legal eagle

          • legal eagle

            I have lots of hair….thanks to my parents..

        • John Daly

          Ahhh, I see. Just stating facts… Like suggesting that Fox News is engaging in discriminatory hiring and not hiring individuals who they believe are the best fits for specific jobs.

          Clearly you know precisely what’s going on in the heads of hiring managers and executives at Fox, because you only state facts, right? Tell me… What sort of neurological hardware did you use, and how did you manage to attach its wiring to those people’s heads? Give me all the factual details.

          • legal eagle

            As I said, in your world discrimination no longer exists….It ended with the signing of CRA in 1964…

          • John Daly

            Says who?

          • legal eagle

            Ignorance is true bliss….

          • John Daly

            You must be awfully happy then.

        • Jimmy Cooper

          Have you ever heard of Harris Faulkner, a very talented host for the news through the week as well as the weekend. Also Kelly Wright as I said you really should watch before you open your mouth about something you obviously have little knowledge about!

      • legal eagle

        You know Juan Williams is not a host….don’t play dumb…

        • John Daly

          He absolutely is, and I’m surprised you said otherwise since you only deal in facts. The Five has seven regular hosts who rotate.

      • Deborah G

        OH PULZEZEZE what a bunch of tripe. You are like a rabid dog. That’s what liberls do so well make false accusations hoping to get it to stick. the fact is much of the senior management is Jewish. Grow up get a life and watch Fox you might get educated

        • John Daly

          Yeah, I was being sarcastic, Deborah. I agree with you. Just showing ‘legal eagle’ what he sounds like. ;)

        • legal eagle

          Who in “senior management” is Jewish or Black?

      • Ksp48

        Rivera is 1/2 Jewish and was Bar Mitzvahed as Jerry Rivers.

        • legal eagle

          In the Jewish religion you’re religion is based upon your mother’s religion….Geraldo is Jewish and can have citizenship in Israel if he wants it…

        • legal eagle

          I know…we come from the same neighborhood in NYC

          • Deborah G

            That’s a lie he never lived in NYC he grew up in the fiove towns out on Long Island My older sister went to college with Jerry.

          • legal eagle

            You’re right…He lived on the Lower East Side of Manhattan in the mid 1960′s. I have no idea where he grew up but he was a proper hippie in the 60′s getting some street cred…

      • Rita

        You are amazing!!! You should be on FOX! I cannot stop smiling all evening after reading this fine thread of your commentary.
        Thank you!

        • John Daly

          lol. Thanks Rita.

    • Deborah G

      Juan WIlliams is highly regarded there. He is most recent so you do if you are fair make everyone pay their dues. However he has stated he prefers the roving commentator role. There are Jewish people there as well however MOST Jews are liberals and refuse to take offers from them Bernie Godlberg has great respect there as well.

      • legal eagle

        How do you know who has respect? So you don’t disagree with the facts….This is your justification? Respect…

        • Deborah G

          We associate with the people from FOX on a regular basis call it personal first hand knowledge.

      • legal eagle

        How do you know what MOST Jews are?

        • Deborah G

          look at the voter registration numbers for race and religion for each party simple

          • legal eagle

            I’m not sure where you live, but in California and New York, they don’t ask your religion or race when you register to vote….

    • floridahank

      Can you tell me the site where I can find the statistics that you state?

      • legal eagle

        Do you think there is a site? You can tell by looking if they are black..cant you? You can tell if they are Jewish by being Jewish…LOL

        • John Daly

          Let me guess. You don’t think you just made a bigoted comment, huh?

          • legal eagle

            Bigoted? Why?

          • John Daly

            Explain the meaning of your statement regarding Jewish people. I don’t get the joke.

          • legal eagle

            I’m Jewish… Generally you can tell by the name ie. Wolf Blitzer, or the look…Sometimes you have to look it up to confirm…and it was a joke…

          • I Hate Fascists

            Wolf Blitzer? He played guitar in Steppenwolf right?

          • legal eagle

            He’s the inspiration for Warren Zevon’s song Werewolves of London…LOL

    • Ksp48

      Maybe you can tell us why you think that might be relevant.

      • legal eagle

        It’s relevant because a Conservative talking point is that there is no more racism and discrimination by whites against minorities…I believe that racism and discrimination is much more subtle particularly in corporate America…Discrimination is now more nuanced and subtle in order to avoid litigation….

        • John Daly

          And you don’t believe that the current line-up of hosts hold their positions because they were determined to be the best qualified for the jobs, based on their talent, experience, and ability to draw ratings… and not because of the color of their skin?

          And a question for you: Which black and Jewish media personalities do you think Fox News should hire as show hosts? Keep in mind that they would need to replace current hosts.

          • John Daly

            And also legal, please tell me which conservative has claimed that there is no more racism and discrimination by whites against minorities. I’ve heard you say this on a number of occasions, but I’ve never heard anyone actually make this claim?

            Since you’re a ‘fact-based’ guy, please give me an example or two to support what you are saying.

          • legal eagle

            They don’t say it…that would be a little obvious…they bring up minority racism but never never ever discuss white racism..They deny any racism among Tea Party members or they just don’t cover any racist statements made by whites…

          • John Daly

            So, this viewpoint which you previously claimed was a conservative “talking point” has never actually been spoken by any conservatives that you know of.

            That doesn’t sound ‘fact-based’ to me. It sounds like you fabricated the viewpoint and then claimed it was held by conservatives simply because you hate conservatives and thought it was a clever way to defame them.

            How admirable.

            The rest of your post is bologna as well. Conservatives didn’t discuss the Michael Richards rant? They didn’t discuss the drunken words uttered by Mel Gibson? Of course they did. What you want them to do is acknowledge that all of the phony charges of white racism, that liberals like to throw around like candy at a parade, and treat them as if they’re real.

            They hardly ever are.

            So, just to recap, the idea that conservatives think racial discrimination ended in the 1960s was something you just made up. The notion that it is a conservative ‘talking point’ is something you made up as well.

            I’m glad we sorted that all out, Mr. Fact-based.

          • legal eagle

            Tell me the last story you’ve seen on Fox regarding discrimination against minorities ? If the best example you can give is Mel Gibson or Michael Richards then you’ve made my point…The right wing playbook just doesn’t cover the real world, it covers the stories that fit their ideology..

          • Jeff Webb

            Hey, hey, easy there, Captain Fact. Don’t be faulting my colleague.
            Why so huffy? Did it hurt your feelings when he pointed out your “talking point” claim was a total lie? Or perhaps it was a stressful experience just being asked for an example or two in the first place?

          • legal eagle

            At the heart of America’s persistent racial divide is a fundamental disagreement over the frequency and severity of discrimination against African-Americans. When asked, vast majorities—89 percent of blacks and 80 percent of whites—agree that racial stereotyping still occurs in America today. But ask how racial stereotyping actually affects people’s lives, and blacks and whites no longer see eye to eye. Seventy percent of whites, for example, think that blacks have an equal shot at affordable housing; only 35 percent of blacks say the same. Seventy percent of whites believe that the two races receive equal treatment in the job market; a mere 25 percent of blacks concur. And while more than 80 percent of white people say the cops and courts usually or always treat blacks the same as whites, that number doesn’t even clear 50 percent among African-Americans. It’s no wonder, then, that blacks are twice as likely as whites (82 percent versus 38 percent) to say that race played a role in the shooting of Trayvon Martin. They are simply more likely than whites to still see race as a factor in how people are treated, period.

          • Tim Ned

            I am not here to debate your national statistics. But when you dig deeper into these statistics you get a much broader picture. My consulting firm employs over 40 people. We are consultants in the high-tech industry. The vast majority are white. However we employ minorities including black Americans, Indians, and Arabs two of which are Muslin. One of my top producers is from Pakistan and under huge demand from my customers for his services. He’s the best our ndustry has. He makes over $300K per year and he is worth every penny. Several of our top producers have no college education. A few went through the military and obtained their high-tech background the hard way by serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. In Minnesota there is a high demand for high-tech positions and there are few college graduates to choose from.

            From a personal standpoint, I am sick and tired of the
            McDonalds and Burger King Owners whining about Obamacare and other factors. First, I am an bamacare opponent. They have a major advantage over businesses like ours. They can hire illegal immigrates and the government lets them get away with it.

            If this country would promote our young, of all races, to
            enter the high-tech market, the unemployment rate in this country would drop dramatically. Due to the lack of talent in this country, I was forced to outsource much of our programming to India. Even though the cost is much less in India, the cost of doing business overseas is more due to logistics. The US won’t let me bring in Indian programmers who would enter this country making much bigger money and paying
            huge taxes. But they permit people to run across the border to be fry cooks? Can you explain this! I can; it’s called political racism. They don’t do it purposely. The problem is that Washington is a city of attorneys, lobbyist, and politicians that have no understanding of business. Over the past five years I am receiving notices from many states with fines stating we didn’t follow their state practices in doing business in their states. I have won every appeal. The fact is, these states are broke and they are broadcasting fines and penalties, in my opinion without cause, to raise money. And they are trolling companies nationwide.

            If I didn’t have the advantage of starting my company many years ago, I could never do it today with the amount of paperwork and regulation required for a company such as ours. And it’s unfortunate as my payroll is huge and my company and employees
            pay a fortune in taxes. Texas is looking very good to me today.

            Educated professionals, who deliver services that customer want, will seldom face racism. Yes, some
            of my people do catch it from a very few minority but for the vast numbers of manufacturers we provide services for they are respected.

            When this country shrinks the power of the politicians,
            reduces spending, cuts regulation and when they start promoting the real jobs and not the fry cooks; we’ll end this recession.

          • legal eagle

            Your point is well taken…Education is the key plus it is very difficult to climb out of the cycle of poverty….

          • Deborah G

            I was with you until that last line. There are thousands of deserving American graduates that can’t finmd jobs. Perdue produces some of the best engineers in the world, Univ of Tennessee same thing. The fact is they don’t care if they get paid less so that is who is hired. They may be evy competant but we should hire American Grads first

          • Tim Ned

            Deborah, Purdue and UofT graduates in IT are under high demand. Trust me, if they are willing to relocate, which is always a big issue with young people, there are tons of jobs. If you know any looking have them call MN recruiting firms.

          • John Daly

            And none of this has absolutely anything to do with your false claim that conservatives believe, and use as a “talking point”, that racial discrimination ended in the 1960s. That was an absolute lie, and throwing a different topic up in the air in order to try and escape additional scrutiny for that lie is downright pathetic.

          • metheoldsarge

            Just like the liberal playbook.

          • Deborah G

            Time for your nap and a diaper change little man. Now if you are good put on your pullups and then we;’ll let you speak again

          • John Daly

            Racial discrimination?

            Did you watch ANY of the Trayvon Martin story on Fox News? If you had, you would have heard from a plethora of pundits (including Bernie himself) who believed George Zimmerman began followed Martin, in part, because he was black.

            Now, please tell me the last time the mainstream media covered a story involving actual white-on-minority racial discrimination, and not presumptive b.s. about code words and dog whistles. A fact-based guy like yourself should be able to produce something quickly.

          • legal eagle

            At the heart of America’s persistent racial divide is a fundamental disagreement over the frequency and severity of discrimination against African-Americans. When asked, vast majorities—89 percent of blacks and 80 percent of whites—agree that racial stereotyping still occurs in America today. But ask how racial stereotyping actually affects people’s lives, and blacks and whites no longer see eye to eye. Seventy percent of whites, for example, think that blacks have an equal shot at affordable housing; only 35 percent of blacks say the same. Seventy percent of whites believe that the two races receive equal treatment in the job market; a mere 25 percent of blacks concur. And while more than 80 percent of white people say the cops and courts usually or always treat blacks the same as whites, that number doesn’t even clear 50 percent among African-Americans. It’s no wonder, then, that blacks are twice as likely as whites (82 percent versus 38 percent) to say that race played a role in the shooting of Trayvon Martin. They are simply more likely than whites to still see race as a factor in how people are treated, period.

          • Deborah G

            Just because you say it moron doesn’t make it so. The courts and cops are sick of the vast numbers of blacks that commit these crimes. Want different court outcomes? Teach your brothers and sisters how to be responsible members of society, teach them not to have 75% of their children out of marraige and on welfare, teach them respect for others not some gang, teach them right from wrong and hold them accountabl;e or is that too racist for a moron like you?

          • legal eagle

            You like calling people morons….Do you also say that to your friends and family members or do you just save these for your anonymous rants?

          • John Daly

            >>You like calling people morons

            You like accusing people of racism.

          • Deborah G

            people who accuse people of racism ARE usually morons

          • Deborah G

            Nope i just call it like I see it. Rather than say what I really think I just call out morons when I see them and you know what? There is a whole lot of stupid out there more of you than there is of us intelligent people. BTW being Jewish doesn’t automatically make you smart or a lawyer

          • legal eagle

            I am smart, a lawyer and Jewish….You’re need to call people stupid and morons doesn’t add much to the value of your opinions other than to show that most of them are based upon ignorance and ideology..

          • Deborah G

            Could have fooled me. Except for the Jewish Liberal part

          • legal eagle

            Doesn’t sound like it takes that much to fool you? You’re like a lawyer who just rambles on without ever discussing the facts or the evidence…

          • legal eagle

            Proud to be Jewish and liberal…Jews are liberals because they care about people other than themselves…

          • Deborah G

            Don’t waste you time on a moron. he won’t learn and you’ll just get frustrated. Sort of like trying to teach a pig to sing

          • legal eagle

            I’m Jewish… We don’t eat pig…

          • Deborah G

            The pigs who are more intelligent than you will be happy to hear that.

          • Mutt

            You’re right – they don’t say it. And never have. You just infer it because that’s what you want to believe.

          • Deborah G

            That’s what liberals do they make innuendos and hope they stick if they say it over and over. The problem is normal people see right through their nonsense

          • Deborah G

            what a pile of garbage , man alive you are stupid

          • legal eagle

            The current line up of hosts were, for the most part, unknowns when they started including Hannity, Meg Kelly,
            Fox & Friends etc. The only brand names they started with were Brit Hume and Tony Snow and O’Reilly.
            I don’t know or care who they can hire…They just hired Elizabeth Hasselbeck…The most qualified or talented? I doubt it…

          • John Daly

            Nope, but she can draw ratings. A LOT of people watch The View. Don’t ask me why. And they could afford Oprah, Fox News would hire her in a heartbeat.

          • John Daly

            IF they could afford Oprah.

          • Deborah G

            Guess what? IF they could afford her they wouldn’t want her. Neither would I she is tainted meat

          • Deborah G

            I doubt they would as she is a race baiter and Fox doesn’t go for that. In fact they’d lose a huge portion of their viewers

          • Deborah G

            She’s quite talented and very informed . Better than Rtachel Madcow

          • stan

            Geraldo Rivera is half Jewish, but I do not know which half

          • Jeff Webb

            If he had a mohel, then you’ll know which half.

          • Deborah G

            His Mom. They grew up in the five towns area of Long Island a nice wealthy upper Middleclass community. Mostly Jewish and Italians.

          • legal eagle

            Maybe you can explain why Ms. Hasselbeck is more qualified than Harris Faulkner to host Fox & Friends?

          • Deborah G

            FYI Harris Faulkner WAs offered the job and decided she wanted to wait for her own show more of a news show than what they offered Hasslebeck. There is zero animosity there and a great working respect.. The deceison which they gave her was the choice to decide for herself. You see we live out here where these people are. We see them in the shops, we meet them at charity events, try conversing with Harris and see if she has the black victim mentality…….here’s a clue she doesn’t. She’s very well liked as she should be , she’s a wonderful smart lady and she knows how she wants to build her career.

          • legal eagle

            How do you know this?

          • Deborah G

            had dinner in the Hamptoins last week.

          • legal eagle

            Gonna tell me how you know this or is it a secret?

        • burkanuck

          And who is the MSLSD host who is black? Al Sharpton? That’s why you libs are so profoundly uninformed, you think MSLSD is balanced and FOX is extreme right.
          What a typical leftist idiot.

    • Jimmy Cooper

      I can always tell the people that believe what they hear instead of finding out for themselves. Fox News has a number of very fine black host. You should watch it sometime you will be surprised!

      • legal eagle

        Who?

        • John Daly

          As far as regular hosts, just Juan Williams.

          • QueenBeeWorld

            Juan Williams is an idiot, always playing both sides of the fence…

          • Deborah G

            he is far from an idiot and quite well respected. Too liberal in his views for my tastes but he is honest and thoughtful.He kind of embodies center America which holds views from both sides of the political spectrum.

          • legal eagle

            Juan Williams embodies whatever values Roger Ailes pays to hold….He’s making $750,000 a year to take whatever position he’s told to take….One show he’s Conservative, the next show he’s liberal…He’s there to take the other side of the debate….

          • John Daly

            Interesting. So you when you watch a black liberal occasionally take certain positions on certain topics that aren’t all that liberal, you consider him to then be an Uncle Tom who’s just doing what “the man” tells him to do, right?

            Good to know.

          • Deborah G

            Nonsense he isn’t told to do anything. He is fairly Middle of the road leans left so what?

          • Wil

            Juan Williams is a tool!

          • legal eagle

            And a well paid one….

      • legal eagle

        Name 1?

        • Deborah G

          Harris faulkner fabulous person love her

          • legal eagle

            What show does Harris Faulkner host?

      • Deborah G

        Me too I can alwqays tell who DOESN”T watch it or has never watched when they say they are far right. There are actually more liberals on Fox than conservatives LOL They just get the crap beat out of them by the viewers.

    • QueenBeeWorld

      You’re not much of a “legal eagle”, sir, if you ask such a misinformed question. Maybe you should hire a qualified paralegal before posting such a comment. Try tuning in to Fox Business when Charles Payne is on. He’s a black Fox contributor /co-anchor and has been with Fox since 2007. Then there’s Harris Falkner, a black woman who used to host Fox News Live Headline BEFORE SHE WAS PROMOTED to anchor Fox Report Weekend. Then we have Molly Henneberg, who is Jewish and has been a Fox News reporter since 2001. While you’re watching Charles Payne on Fox Business, you can tune in and watch Lori Rothman, a Jewish anchor who has been with Fox News since 2010. I could go on, but I think I’ve proven my point. BTW, I don’t believe in coincidences. If certain people aren’t employees of Fox News, it’s because they’re not smart enough to land a job there. That’s when they head on over to the Alphabet News stations where they’re always hiring…

      • legal eagle

        I specifically said there were no Black or Jewish anchors or hosts of shows on Fox News…I did not say they don’t have contributors…Do you understand the difference?

        • QueenBeeWorld

          They do anchor their respective shows, with Charles Paine as a co-anchor–that’s still an anchor. The definition of a news anchor is one who reports news stories”, which they all do…

          • legal eagle

            is he on FOX NEWS? To difficult for you to understand?

          • Drew Page

            I understand you quite well, eagle.
            If you don’t like Fox News, there are plenty of other MSM “news” outlets. Tune in to Chris Matthews, Bill Mahr or Rachel Maddow, you will feel much more comfortable there.

          • legal eagle

            I love Fox News…like watching the circus or pro wrestling….Fake but interesting…

          • legal eagle

            Stuart Varney is the host….The show is called Varney & Co. not Big Boy Payne…

          • QueenBeeWorld

            I said Paine CO-ANCHORED, didn’t I? It’s still a anchoring…

          • John Daly

            Big Boy? And you have the nerve to play the race card against other people?

          • legal eagle

            Sorry…Should be Uncle Tom Payne?

          • John Daly

            Just another example of how completely low-class and hypocritical you really are, legal eagle.

          • legal eagle

            Thanks….Payne is on Fox News to be a token minority and to say “I agree” with every part of the Fox News ideology…

          • John Daly

            And making that statement makes you a token idiot of the modern day liberal movement.

            You see a black conservative and you don’t see an individual with a mind of his or her own. You don’t see someone who, through his or her life experiences, formed a different worldview than the one you would expect of black person. I would suggest that you don’t even know a thing about Payne, other than that he is that “large, black guy” on Fox News business shows that you occasionally see when you’re channel surfing.

            I’m sure you view people like Thomas Sowell, Chris Gardner, J.C. Watts, Allen West, and Condoleeza Rice the same way.

            You define them by their skin color and how YOU think they should see the world, based on their skin color. And when they defy your prejudices, you mock them as sell-outs and token minorities.

            Now, explain to me how that viewpoint you’re putting forth is something other than racism.

          • legal eagle

            Charles Payne is a creation of Fox News and Roger Ailes. He has a thin resume, little experience in the securities industry and has been fined by the SEC for violation of securities rules.
            In other words, Payne is a token….If you like to ignore the real world because it doesn’t fit your ideology that your choice…

          • John Daly

            Amazing. So because you do not believe he has enough experience to be on a cable news network, you consider him a “token black”.

            I’m curious then… Do you believe that Marc Lamont Hill is a token black? How about Van Jones? And if not, why?

          • legal eagle

            You’d defend Hitler if he was a commentator on Fox News…You’re a true cultist…

          • Integrity

            You would defend Hitler if he was a Democrat…You’re a true ideologist….You need to find some new words to insult us with. Hitler, Taliban, and Racist are a bit worn out. QED

          • legal eagle

            I would not support any Dem who led the country into a war under false premises ala LBJ…I would not support any Dem who is against a woman’s right to choose, voting rights, equal pay for women etc etc etc.
            Your positions are predictable. You are the equivalent of a cult member. Fox News states their position and they repeat it ad infinitum until you learn to repeat it

          • Integrity

            You don’t seem to have a problem overlooking the moral turpitude of the current administration, so we shall see. Given the recent events in Syria, your words may very well be tested in the near future. You castigate me with your leftist diatribe, yet you actually know very little about me. Even the dumbest lawyers should know that each case turns on its own facts. Maybe you should remove your head from your sphincter and stop aspiring to be on the far left of the bell curve. QED

          • legal eagle

            Moral turpitude? As opposed to other administrations or your sense of morality? If you cant argue facts or specifics argue concepts like morality, leadership and ideology?
            I judge politicians by what they accomplish or try to accomplish not what platitudes they offer…You and your brethren judge politicians by their ideology and their party…Conservatives have become so used to being unchallenged about the facts that they attack the non believer….
            Sounds like you’re a cult member under the leadership of O’Reilly and Limbaugh..to disagree means excommunication..

          • Deborah G

            Have you ever met a frustrated Jewish teenager? Look no further….his mama probably still wipes his Tush.

        • Deborah G

          Do you understand you are a sophomoric non starter?

        • John Daly

          Geraldo is Jewish. Juan Williams is black. Both host shows on Fox News. Why do you keep putting forth this lie? I thought you were a fact-based guy.

    • Drew Page

      My guess is because Fox is following the Obama administration’s line that America is being too partial to Israel. Although Fox News Washington Bureau Chief, James Rosen, may not be Jewish enough for you, I believe he does qualify. Also Molly Hannenberg and Lori Rothman are both Jewish and are both Fox News reporters. one of whom, Rothman, I think , is an anchor person with Fox News.
      With regard to black hosts, I have seen Juan Williams host O’Reilly’s Factor program a number of times, plus he is a regular on that show. Charles Payne hosts Fox Business programs and has for a number of years. Recently there has been a black man hosting the Hannity show this week while Sean is out. But I guess any black person who is conservative just isn’t “black enough” for you.
      Once again, Legal Eagle, you have shown your ignorance. Coincidence?

      • legal eagle

        Do you even know what the host/anchor of a cable show refers to? Hannity is the host…Rothman is not the host…Payne is not the host, Varney is….Do you know the difference between Host and substitute host is?
        I have to assume you’re just playing ignorant ?

        • Deborah G

          Unlike you who is naturally ignorant

        • John Daly

          Juan Williams is a black host of The Five on Fox News. So why do you keep saying there are no black hosts on Fox when there most certain is. I thought you were a fact-based guy.

      • Wil

        Molly Hannenberg is not Jewish.

  • burkanuck

    “It’s true that there is no evidence that the teenagers targeted Chris Lane because he was white. But there is a tweet, allegedly sent by the youngest of the three that said:”90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM.”
    Would that “tweet” have been the basis for targeting him if the races were reversed? You’re as bad as the rest of the MSM Goldberg!
    There is also his comment about having “knocked out 5 woods since trayvon decision”, woods being a derogatory term for whites!!! Get your head out of your ass and show some guts you spineless coward!!!
    There is plenty of evidence to show this was, indeed, a hate crime but people like you will continue to toe the line.

    • legal eagle

      Do you have any idea what the legal definition of a hate crime is? I doubt Oklahoma, being a red state, has a hate crime statute on the books…Do some research before you spout nonsense…

      • autofixer

        Are you a government troll, or just a troll?

      • Jackryanvb

        Eric Holder testified that White Americans,or in this case White Australians could never be the victims of hate crimes as only historic victim groups (Blacks, Gays, Latinos, Muslims etc) could be victims of hate crimes.

        Thus the vicious Black on White beatings murderers must be … What?

        “Love crimes”?

        The MSM, including Fox heavily censors brutal Black on White assaults, murders, rapes. For alternative media that does report these terrible crimes, check out:

        Vdare dot com
        Amren dot com
        Occidentaldissent dot com

      • burkanuck

        Go back to your hole, you uneducated troll. Oklahoma’s hate crime legislation most certainly does cover race, so shut the hell up.
        Nothing I detest more than a braindead lib troll who has no bloody clue what they’re talking about. Of course, that covers pretty much all of them.

        • legal eagle

          So why are people bringing up the issue of the DOJ charging these punks with a hate crime? This is not a federal issue..

          • Deborah G

            Obama makes every “Crime” against blacks a federal issue or he makes them his son can’t remember which comes first.BTW I just watched Harris on Fox news weekend anchoring.. A_HOLE

          • burkanuck

            Who said ANYTHING about the DOJ? My posts are there to read. please point out the part where I mentioned the DOJ.
            We’re talking about Oklahoma here…Oklahoma…can you follow the conversation?

  • Tim Ned

    This is off subject but ever since I heard the line about women clutching their purses I had the opportunity to watch my wife during a recent elevator ride. Two guys got on and my wife brought her hand over her purse and clutched the strap more securely.

    Unfortunately the guys were white. I’ve been married for 35 years and raised daughters. I got some news for everyone; women are territorial about their purses and closets, among other things.

    So for my fellow Americans that are black, get off the ego kick about purse clutching. It ain’t what it appears.

  • genann59

    And now we hear about that 88 year old WWII vet beat to death by a couple of young black thugs, about 1/5th his age and more than twice his size. Some black leader has got to step up to the plate and help stop this. Bill Cosby tried for years to tell blacks that the parents needed to start parenting their kids, was mocked and ridiculed by fellow blacks and even he went with the majority on the Martin/Zimmerman thing. There are conservative black men of honor and distinction, such as Col West, Dr Sowell, but because they are conservatives they are ignored by the blacks who need being reached the most. Black people who pay attention to West or Sowell usually are already parenting their kids like other conservatives do, and usually their children don’t get involved in this sort of behavior in the first place.

    And by the way it was a white punk who tried to break into what appeared to be mostly a black school the other day, intent on causing death or harm to the children there. It’s maddening, distressing and depressing how many of our young men and women of all colors seem to have lost all sense of direction. As Ms Salazar often says in her articles, I just don’t get it, do you? I think I misquoted her a bit but think I have the remark fairly close.

    • Integrity

      It is a great quote, “I don’t get it, but if you do, God bless you.” QED

      I don’t get it, but if you do, God bless you
      I don’t get it, but if you do, God bless you
      I don’t get it, but if you do, God bless you

    • legal eagle

      Alan West has become your icon for the black community? Since when? What do you know about Alan West?

      • burkanuck

        Go troll somewhere else you pathetic loser.

      • metheoldsarge

        I had the pleasure of meeting and talking with West when he was just a young Lieutenant and I was quite impressed. Since then the children of several of my fellow retired military friends along with a few relatives have had the honor of serving under his command. He represents true leadership. The, so called, black leaders like Sharpton, Jackson, Lee, Wright and Obama aren’t worthy to even shine his boots. Go back and drink your Kool-Aid. I’m sure you will have some choice words for me so you can have the last word.

        • Deborah G

          I agree this man is a true Patriot. Only the left goes after him.

          • legal eagle

            The left goes after Colin Powell? What a moronic statement..

          • John Daly

            True. The moment he supported Obama, the left went from calling him a liar about WMDs to a true American patriot.

        • Jackryanvb

          Sounds like another Colin Powell, the great Black, Conservative, military patriot hope of the GOP.

          Republicans wanted to run Colin Powell for President on the GOp ticket, then they found in horror Caolina Powell wildly celebrating the election of Barack Obama, Powell was celebrating with Black African students.

          Blacks are simply racist, anti White and go for socialist, blame Whitey politics as practiced by Robert Mugabe, Colman Young, David Dinkings, Jessie, Sharpton etc. that’s just the sad FACS of life.

          • metheoldsarge

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            Did you ever stop to think that maybe he was sick and
            tired of being pestered into running, when he made it crystal clear
            that he had no intention of seeking elected office? When he
            celebrated Obama’s win they sure stopped pestering and left him
            alone. How do you know that wasn’t his real motive? I also nitice
            that the Democrats haven’t been pestering him either. It s also
            known fact that his wife didn’t want him to run and even said she
            would divorce him if he did. General Powell has done more than his
            fair share for this country and he just wants to relax and enjoy his
            well earned retirement. That is just my opinion and I have a right
            to it as do you.

          • John Daly

            Some blacks are racist, just like some whites are racist. Your generalization is over the top.

      • Columbo

        Well, we know, if we’re paying attention, that he was an excellent soldier, and a true hero in Iraq. He was forced to leave the military because he did something to save his troops. Google it. Colonel West is a great American. Only liberal cowards disagree with that.

        • legal eagle

          He beat up on prisoners to save his troops? What a joke?

          • Integrity

            This is not completely accurate and you know it. Regardless, not everyone gets to live in your utopian ivory tower. War is ugly and a commander often has to make difficult decisions. It is a Soldier thing – you wouldn’t get it. QED

          • Deborah G

            Liberals only know how to wring their hands and point fingers and whine. they wouldn’t understand a soldier other than to call them names

  • jazzdrums

    did not believe obama when he stated that he was victim of different profiling incidents in his past…..was that artistic license to bs and say something happened to them when it did not…all the babblers do that on both sides R or L..they make up stuff nobody is going to check…worst case b beckel on the five.

    • legal eagle

      Have you ever heard of a DWB? Do you know many black adults who haven’t believed they were stopped for a DWB?

      • autofixer

        Have you ever heard of SWJW (Shot While Jogging White)? How about BTDWSW (BeatTo Death While Shopping White)? You are a racialist, Mr. legal eagle.

        • legal eagle

          Were these things done by the cops or other legal authorities?

          • Deborah G

            No by black hoodlums,human waste

      • soundnfury

        “Do you know many black adults who haven’t believed they were stopped for a DWB?”

        Do you know many black adults who haven’t believed they were exploited while voting Democrat?

  • Pat A

    Good article. Thank you for writing it.

  • cliffy44

    IF muslim obama had a son, would he have also passed the blame off on President Bush?

    • legal eagle

      If you had a son…he’d be working at Wal-Mart for minimum wage…and you would be thrilled…

      • genann59

        If you were capable of having a son he would have to support you so you could spend all your time counting out your psych meds. Get a life, asshole.

        • legal eagle

          Wish he would support me…I will ask him…

      • Deborah G

        My son is an Aerospace engineer at NASA what does yours do?

        • sjangers

          He wiped his ‘son’ off his computer keyboard after posting that last comment. Apparently he thought it was a good one.

        • legal eagle

          NASA? You must be very proud….Does he carry a gun?

        • legal eagle

          Does he carry a gun to protect him from minorities?

          • Deborah G

            why is that any of your business?

          • legal eagle

            Should be your business….I don’t care what he does or who he does it to…

          • Deborah G

            Why should what another law abiding adult do be any of my business or yours. You know I have to say this. I think you are a complete moron.

          • legal eagle

            Guess you’ll care when he kills someone?

          • Integrity

            You and Obama are the best friends the gun industry could ever want. QED

          • legal eagle

            I’m not…But if you want to carry a gun be my guest…Chances are great you’ll shoot someone by accident and then I can sue you….LOL

          • Integrity

            I see you are also an actuary. Please give me a number; what are my chances between 0 and 1? Have you ever touched a gun and lived to tell about it? Do tell! QED

          • Deborah G

            again a faulty premise I could care less if he has or doesn’t have a gun. I’ve never asked, He is a law abiding responsible adult. He was raised to make good choices and he does. Its none of my business what he does or doesn’t at his age. do but I asure you he would never be a criminal.

      • Integrity

        Your post is a shining example of smug, arrogant, and condescending liberalism. You actually look down on the downtrodden, or less affluent Americans, the same ones that you liberals purport yourselves to care about. QED

        • Integrity

          Actually, I don’t think all liberals are this way. Some actually do mean well. But I do think you are that way. Read you post and tell me how else to interpret it. QED

  • Curt Parker

    Until this nation humbles itself before Almighty God, this racial violence will only get worse. Pray that I’m wrong, but in any case, pray!

    • genann59

      Amen, Curt, amen.

    • Deborah G

      Amen brother we’re with you.

  • cliffy44

    The asshole, who is doing a horrendous job at masquerading as our president, BUT, an exemplary job at unconstitutionally dismantling our country even though he’s constitutionally unqualified to seek or to hold the office of president of the United States is in the same league as the 3 murderous thugs; and the corrupt muslim doesn’t have the actual leadership expertise to know when to (or NOT to) inject himself into a news story, so as to use it as a distraction.

    Ask the muslim to get his priorities straight, and to admit that it was he who ordered the stand-down order, that resulted in 4 senseless and unnecessary deaths in Benghazi; as try as he might, we will never forget that politically oriented event, that the muslim used to distract from the fact that Al Qaeda is far from dead; and IF the election were to have been legitimate (with no IRS intimidation of Tea Party groups seeking tax exempt status), we would have a country that was now on the mend, from the horrendous destructive forces of the obama regime, who’s charter was created to dismantle America.

    SO, if the corrupt muslim were to have a son, I’d bet my freedom that he’d appear identical to the compilation of the 3 murderous thugs, who claim to have been bored.

    Too bad that the murder was racially biased; as is obama.

    • smorkingapple

      Dude, they let you out of the funny farm lately? I’ll concede Obama gave the order to stand down when you concede Bush was behind 9/11, the planes had missiles on them and the Pentagon was hit by a missile. Deal?

      By the way, all of those far fetched fantasies are more believable than the absolute asinine garbage you just posted.

  • legal eagle

    Nothing like ringing the race card bell to get the bitter old men crowd awoken….Amazingly Pavlovian…….Like Paul Revere’s ride…the black kids are coming…the black kids are coming….

    • Integrity

      Nothing like ringing the race card bell to get the race baiter crowd
      awoken….Amazingly Pavlovian…….Like Paul Revere’s ride…the sharptons are coming…the sharptons are coming…. QED

    • 1940voter

      Yeah and if they keep coming they are going to end up like Trayvon, dead as a door nail.This crime will not go away–It should be seared in every headline in the country. These are animals, destined to end up dead.

      • smorkingapple

        We know this has been the KKK’s fantasy for years, the race war. Just note that while you’ve been shooting targets, those thugs? They’ve been shooting real people and have lived in virtual war zones their entire lives while you were raised in the gated cul de sac with mommy reading you bedtime stories. I’ll put my money on them.

        • 1940voter

          Take another guess, fired in Nationals at Camp Perry and FBI training course  bring the gang bangers on they will be Trayvon all over again. Also had several months of live fire in Nam so they lose.

    • Stimpy

      Yep, you are the poster child liberal enabling this madness to go on. Keep apologizing for murderous racial hatred. You couldn’t have done a better job representing the lunatic liberal mindset. And be sure to give the next black thug you see a kiss after you genuflect to him.

      • legal eagle

        “enabling this madness to go on”???…I’m enabling what? Old guys like you to vent your hatred?

        • stimpy

          You know very well what the madness is — Civil rights ‘leaders’ and liberals up in arms on the very rare occasion when a black is killed by a white and deafening silence on the very common occurrence when whites are killed by young black thugs. And yes you do enable this situation of young black killers on the loose when you refuse to confront the reality and put on your liberal glasses to see no evil and instead label anyone who calls you out on this an ‘old while racist’. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see and that seems to apply very liberally to liberals. Get a clue. Wake up. And I imagine that you live in a pristine upper class neighborhood blessedly free from black crime.

    • Deborah G

      we’re more worried about the Morons are coming and iI have seen the enemy and it is you

  • Peter Hubner

    What a perfect summation of what is wrong with crime and race in America. Thank you so much for that Mr. Goldberg. At least someone with a large audience speaks out about the problems confronting our society.
    Not that Pres. Obama will ever address that side of the coin. Come to think of it, he should have said “George Zimmerman could have been my son” ( because George’s father was white, as was Obama’s mother! He can also now say “Chris Lane -( the dead Australian) could ALSO have been my mother’s son.

    • legal eagle

      If George Zimmerman was Obama’s son, or my son, he would not be carrying a gun….

      • metheoldsarge

        The only sensible thing you have said. If he would not have been armed he would be dead. Enjoy your Kool-Aid.

        • legal eagle

          He would have not followed Trayvon…

          • Deborah G

            No because he is a coward and wouldn’t know how to protect anything except his stash and his black panther friends from jail

      • autofixer

        If he were Obamao’s son, he would be provided 24 hour security paid for by our tax dollars.

        • legal eagle

          Like Bush’s daughters or Poppy Bush?

  • rbblum

    Yeah, well, if Obama’s true image was reflected there would be nothing there . . . just an empty suit . . . in an empty chair. . . in a republic having no constitutional law.

  • Ksp48

    Hate crime? This government still won’t label the Ft. Hood mass murder as terrorism. Its “workplace violence”. They’ll probably call this crime the “Summertime Blues.”

  • ninthsquad

    Do you think EH will begin an immediate investigation into the shooting of the baby in the stroller, Chris Lane and the WWII vet to see if their civil rights were violated?
    Do you think that any black activists or POTUS will even imply that this was anything other than a simple random act of violence and the fact that the victims were white may have been a factor?
    I think not.
    Lets see, I think these acts were the result of frustration and built up feelings of fear and mistrust due to the years and years of white racism and oppression and a racially biased justice system. These youths were tragically forced to express their inability to get jobs or education in a negative way resulting in violence. White America has to understand that they are responsible for these acts and until you allow us our full equality sad incidents such as these can happen.
    There you have the tune that will bring in the money and support for the black activists and have the liberal media clamoring to place it on the front page of the paper or put it as lead story on television.

  • Ksp48

    This President does not learn. He often says things before knowing anything about it. And usually what he says shows his own prejudices.

  • Ksp48

    Lest anyone forget, the most amazed person in the world to have been described as racist was George Zimmerman. Raised with African Americans, dated African Americans, defended African Americans, mentored African Americans and supported African Americans, voted for an African American President, but when he defended his life against an African American on dope who was suspended from school and kicked out of his mother’s home, suddenly he became the poster child for RACISM from the President of the USA on down. What a country. What a media. What a President.

  • Paul Van Name

    Now stop……you are making a rational argument and black americans don’t have ears to here. Pitiful is it not?

  • sjangers

    “If President Obama Had a Son…”? That was just bad, Bernie. Of course, it was also the first place my mind went when I heard this story, but I expect you to be better than me.

    It seems amazing that we elected our first black President and race relations are actually getting worse in this country, but that appears to be the case. I wonder if this is George Bush’s fault.

    • Seattle Sam

      Race relations are getting worse for the same reason that your marriage would get worse if you reminded your wife every day that she was a slovenly housekeeper.

    • legal eagle

      Race relations are getting worse? You mean also these old white bitter haters were dormant all of these years? This is a generational hatred that began in the sixties…It’s the old “those colored folks are getting everything” crowd..

      • sjangers

        I don’t know where to begin to try to help you, legal eagle.

        I was a child in the Sixties and Seventies, and I worked in human services and education for the past twenty years, and I know that in my part of the country race relations have improved steadily over the past fifty years. Progress has only started to stagnate quite recently.

        As an amateur historian, your remark about racial hatreds originating in the Sixties is ludicrous. Race relations in the Sixties, while a significant social problem, were much improved over what existed in this country thirty, fifty, and eight years earlier.

        As an observer of current events, I’ll refer you to a recent study by the Pew Research Center that looked at a number of issues around race relations on the fiftieth anniversary of Dr. Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream” speech. In particular, you might want to check out the section headed “Looking Back Five Years”. Their study showed a sharp decline in optimism about progress in race relations since 2008.

        Go do a little honest research in those three areas, then get back to us when you have a clue. This business of trolling comment sections and throwing around ill-informed nonsense is for children.

        • legal eagle

          I didn’t say racial hatred originated in the 1960′s…I was referring to the Civil Right Act as allowing many white folks to believe their was no more discrimination because a law was passed….The Right Wing media does no acknowledge that racism or discrimination exists except among minorities…

          • John Daly

            Give me an example of who believes the Civil Rights Act ended discrimination? This is at least the third time I’ve asked you this question. A ‘fact-based’ guy like yourself should be able to produce evidence to support this claim.

          • metheoldsarge

            Racial hatred existed long before the 60s. It can be traced in this country back to when the first African slaves were brought to the North American colony of Jamestown, Virginia, in 1619. I know from personal experience how the Democrat party worked in the south during the 1950s and early 60s. I lived it. Litmus testing was their favorite tool to suppress the black vote after Reconstruction. There was also the idea of having to pay a poll tax to be able to vote. Another favorite Democrat voter suppression tool. Don’t forget the long association between the Democrats and the KKK. Check some of the Democrat leaders of the south. People like Orval Faubus, George Wallace, Bull Connor and Sheriff Clark had two things in common. They were Democrats and they were racist. Research those names and others from the 1950s and early 60s and see what you find. In 1964 Democrat Senators Richard Russel of Georgia, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina and former KKK member Robert Byrd of West Virginia tried to kill the Civil Rights act by filibusterer. They would have been successful if the Republican Senators had not joined a few Democrats and put a stop to it. The Democrat Party has a much longer history of racism against blacks than the Republican Party ever thought of having. I may be citing things that are over 50 years old but that is part of history. I lived it and have seen what bigotry can do and I believe that there are powerful forces behind the scenes doing everything possible to destroy this country from within by promoting racial hatred.. When forgotten or ignored, history always repeats itself. WAKE UP AMERICA!

  • genetracy

    This just in. Two young black males beat a white, 88 year old WW2 vet to death in Spokane, Washington, with metal flashlights.

    • joepotato

      Those kids (thugs) were probably bored and just playing the “knockout game.” (sarc) It’s almost time…

  • joepotato

    The murder of Lane is a “hate crime.” You’re not likely to hear anything but crickets from (racist) Holdem’s DOJ. Black on White crime will not be prosecuted as a hate crime on his watch. It’s not in line with the political agenda. Basically, Holdem has green lighted blacks to attack “whitey.” The policy could be termed “the reparations revenge policy.” Maybe congress can pass a “National Reparations Revenge Act,” since the rule of law in and around DC is non-existent. Holdem should be charged with malfeasance, but that’s not likely to happen, as he’s already got away with being an accessory to murder in Fast & Furious. As a side note; Obama/Soetoro should not be referred to as “president” because he’s not able to claim legitimacy with sealed records and a fraudulent long form posted on the WH website which proves nothing except felony fraud.

    • Paul Van Name

      The only racists I am aware of are black !!!
      Can someone correct me here?

      • genann59

        We white people do have our fair share I hate to admit. I see way too much of it. There are racists in every race, there are likewise good and decent people in every race, unfortunately it is the bad apples who get the most publicity. And during this admin, the bad apples seem to feel free to rise to the top of the barrel, if you will.

        • legal eagle

          Do you think its a coincidence that Fox News has no black or Jewish hosts on any of their shows? Just asking….

          • metheoldsarge

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            If
            you did a little research as I have on FOX, that would come as no
            surprise. You will find that they are really no different from the
            rest of the media. All you have to do is look up who owns them.
            Australian Globalist billionaire, Rupert Murdoch along with Saudi
            Prince Alwaleed bin Talal control FOX network. They allow just a
            little more than other networks, but when people like Judge Andrew
            Napolitano started getting too close to THE TRUTH, they canceled his
            program Freedom Watch. Don’t forget about Glen Beck also getting
            canceled. Bill, Looking Out For You, O’Rielly showed me his true
            liberal colors a long time ago. And now goodbye to Hanity. I have
            added FOX to the trash-heap of controlled media a long time ago.
            Today’s media programing is more for ENTERTAINMENT and free PR for
            the Administration than information! I guess you were enjoying your
            Koo-Aid to much to take some time to do the research.

      • Stimpy

        The worst racist I’ve encountered was a manager at my former company. This was an engineering company and he would hire only blacks.

      • legal eagle

        Exactly….Finally, someone who truly is a cult member of FOX News …There is only minority racism towards whites….White racism ended in 1964

      • Deborah G

        Nope because you are 100% correct

  • moonflyr23

    BRAVO, Bernie, for saying what the rest of we cowardly non-lookalikes are not brave enough to say! But we’re sick of the double standard…they watch, they wait to see if they can walk away without comment, and if they can, they do!
    “They”? Obama, Oprah, Jackson, Al, et al of the indignant Treyvon commentators. Weakness emboldens!

  • Kevin Hubble

    I’m also waiting for Oprah to say that Emmit Till and the 3 Oklahoma teenagers are “the same thing” When 3 blacks (2 black killers and a white get-away driver) just a kill a white guy for no reason at all surely, Oprah will no doubt proclaim this to be exactly like Emmit Till. I’m certain that they will. Everyone in Oklahoma await Oprah, Jesse, and Al leading their march for justice through the streets any day now.

  • Brett

    One of the best prices read on the subject

    Thanks

  • Paul Van Name

    Sounds like this was a HATE CRIME !!

    • joepotato

      Gee, ya really think so? (sarc)

      • Paul Van Name

        it will never be treated as such in the society Obama has created. Yes, sarcastic as i was being!!

  • LizaG

    Spot on Mr. Goldberg

  • Wil

    Thank God there is someone in the press who still has the courage to tell it like it is. For too many years we have played ‘The Emperor has no Clothes’

  • SamZydeco

    Outstanding piece.

  • potvin

    America has a black people problem. Kowtowing to them isn’t going to solve anything.

    • legal eagle

      Go back to playing hockey… I think your brain is a little scrambled from all the hits you took…

    • Deborah G

      Correct in fact the problem is excerbated when we do. They need to be held responsible for their crimes, not blame people who never owned a slave and are in no way responsible for the Democrats who enslaved them to generational dispair

  • gbandy

    Now besides these three worthless humans there are 2 more who beat an 88 year old man to death in Spokane. Just imagine if three white kids shot a Black jogger, the outcry from all these phony black leaders and the liberal media would be insane. Now what exactly is going on with DHS they have a manager advocating revolution between the Blacks and Whites. Why has this nut not been fired. The double standards of this nation are going way too far and perhaps this answers the question why the DHS has bought billions of rounds of ammo and assault rifles. All the while Obama wants to disarm law abiding Americans.

    • genann59

      Someone talked to a co-worker of the DHS loony and said everyone in the office is scared to death of the guy and figure one day he is going to come into work and go postal on them and blow a good number of them away. And complaints had been made about the guy by co-workers to his supervisors to no avail. I do not think he reflects the viewpoint of the majority of even the other workers at DHS. He is a real crazy and they need to get him out and disarmed and possibly checked out mentally. I think it might have been one of the people at the Blaze who talked to a co-worker off the record because the co-worker feared for his life if the loony found out he had spoken poorly of him.

      • gbandy

        With all the press on this nut case why does he still have a job? We Taxpayers are paying him.

        • legal eagle

          Did you ever hear of due process?

  • John Colburn

    When was the last time you saw a white kid commit a crime and said “That could be my son”?

    • Seattle Sam

      Anzort Tsarnev?

      • John Colburn

        I actually did think of Anzort Tsarnev but can’t think of any who said that other than his father who said he could be his son.

    • Ksp48

      The same time “I saw a white victim and said If I had a son he’d look like _________.”

      • John Colburn

        So for every time you saw a white victim and thought he could be your son there was a corresponding time you saw a white criminal and thought the same?

        • Ksp48

          Yes. Never.

  • kayakbob

    Aw come on Mr. Goldberg. There ya go pointing out the latest in a long line of monstrous double standards. The race card is only applicable when the victim is a “minority”. (I put minority in quotes because this young man was 1. Australian, 2. in the US on a baseball(!?) scholarship. It doesn’t get any more minority than that, in the literal sense).

    Otherwise it is just a senseless, random act of violence, that should be “frowned upon”. But heaven forbid we do much else!

    And for those readers ready to pounce on my racial remarks, my mother is half Chinese, half Mexican. About the only language NOT spoken in her home growing up was English.

    • Seattle Sam

      It doesn’t get any more minority? What if the black shooters turned out to be Republicans?

      • kayakbob

        Good point. Well, if they were, or have ever hinted at being Republican, their goose is cooked. Otherwise they are merely to be frowned upon.

  • Seattle Sam

    Actually, what I’d like the Race Industry people to say is this: WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? Is the degree of “wrong” in killing another human being ANY different once we know the race of the victim and the perpetrator? If so, please explain why.

    • genann59

      The only time is really makes a difference is when that is the only or main motivation for the crime, which it seems to be becoming more and more. That is when you know race relations are nearing a very serious flash point, when people of any race go out looking for people of another race to kill strictly because they are members of a race they despise. If the motive for a murder is the race of the victim, then it does matter. And to pretend it doesn’t is to bury your head in the sand. I do not remember race relations being this bad since I was stationed in Alabama for basic training in 1967. I had honestly thought things had greatly improved since then, now i honestly think they are worse. When one of the black girls in my company whose family lived in Anniston invited two other black girls and two other white girls and I to her parents’ house for Thanksgiving dinner, none of us thought anything except we would be in a real family for Thanksgiving and not stuck on the base. We had been warned not to get caught in town in the presence of a black man even if our best friend was black and he was her boy friend. We were told we would be arrested and that if we were under 21 we would not be released until our parents came in person to bail us out of jail. I don’t think any of us thought that would include a friend’s father. When her dad was driving us back to the base after a wonderful turkey dinner with her parents and two younger sisters, the other six kids were also serving in the military in various parts of the world, we realized part way back to the base we were being followed by the police. You could have cut the fear in the car. They followed him back to the base and we didn’t get arrested but her parents were harassed for months for the nerve of inviting white girls to Thanksgiving dinner at their home. Well times seemed to have changed but the hatred seems to be worse, more from the black side now, but still some from the white side and a lot of it seems to be directed out of the DC area. The kids who are doing these horrific crimes weren’t even born yet and in some cases their parents weren’t even born yet. Yet the hatred is worse than back almost 50 years ago.

  • Al

    Michael Jones is NOT white!

  • Steve Abitone

    Obama has done so much to damage race relations with his selective press conferences that serve only to separate. Martin Luther King Jr would be sicked by this terrible president

  • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

    This should have been trumpeted country wide “Bored Black Boys blast Cracka!”. Then Ovomit could claim paternity for all of them. All that is just fantasy, It will be quietly forgotten or reported in sideboxes. Keep it quiet, do not want the whiteys to be able to say they are being attacked.

    • Deborah G

      It isn’t JUST OBAMA we have a media that has a slobbering love affari with him and will refuse to be journalists just campaign supporters. CALL every newspaper you know of and demand they cover this properly.I did

    • joepotato

      The DOJ has basically green lighted thugs to “hunt whitey” and I’m glad I live in Little Crackerville.

  • gold7406

    the dilution of stop and frisk, complemented with a reduction in the criminality of low level drug dealers, expect much more of this behavior.

  • VermontAmerican

    Obama identified himself with Trayvon (his lookalike son) in the middle of a heated presidential election. His point was to put the focus on himself as a victim of American racial hatred in order to motivate his base. He used a dead kid, not to express sympathy for the kid or the kid’s family, but for purely selfish and political ambitions. Typical “community organizer” and Saul Alinsky-type tactics.

    • Seattle Sam

      Never let a crisis go to waste

    • Deborah G

      And that “dead” kid appeared on stage with him? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  • Integrity

    Bernie – I applaud your courage. In my humble opinion, not only are you performing an invaluable service for our country, but you sir, are a patriot. You may very well be a bit quixotic, but we have to start somewhere. The rest of us are mere Internet fodder. QED

    • legal eagle

      Bernie’s a patriot? Because he avoided serving in Vietnam like most other middle and upper class white kids?

      • Integrity

        Yes, Bernie is a patriot. By the way, have you ever served in the military? Exemplary military service sure worked out well for McCain and Dole, didn’t it?

  • I Hate Fascists

    This website is pure doo-doo

    • Integrity

      Anger is such a bitter pill to swallow. QED

    • Liberalism is a mental disorde

      That convinced me. Idiot

      • John Daly

        Careful man. Saying something like that is grounds for the threat of legal action, I’m told. ;)

        • legal eagle

          Are you now threatening legal action against someone who submits a comment?

          • John Daly

            Nope. I’m poking fun at one of our regular posters that does.

          • legal eagle

            Threaten him with an injunction….LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            Why would he feel threatened by the meeting point of two freeways? :

    • PolkaDot

      @4628f4448af36f6674a58d08c5477a07:disqus
      Do you?

    • Deborah G

      Then go spew you poop elsewhere I promise we won’t miss you

    • Rascasse

      There is an articulate response from the other side (as usual). Can you elaborate on ‘doo-doo’? Which part? Was it that the ‘race baiters’, Jackson, Sharpton, Obama and Holder look to take advantage of any possible white on black crime to divide and advance their narrative? Or was it the fact that their deafening silence exposes them? Perhaps it was the cooperative main stream media that says nothing unless it advances the race baiters agenda? Please elaborate….

      • I Hate Fascists

        Actually what I was referring to here is not the content but the website itself. Comments disappearing and reappearing, being mislabeled, and showing up out of sequence.

        • John Daly

          Stop swearing in so many of your posts, and the auto-filter will give you an easier time. Just friendly advice to an unfriendly troll.

          • I Hate Fascists

            I’m not even talking about that. If you bother to look you will see that even your brilliant comments frequently disappear, are mislabeled, or are out of sequence

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Modern genetics has revealed some startling facts about our shared humanity. Turns out, we really are brothers and sisters in our shared humanity. We all trace back through mitochondrial DNA to a single human mother, and through Y chromosomes to a single human father. (Yes, evolutionist’s argue they lived in different ages and it’s merely coincidental that we all derive thusly) BUT they do agree the DNA proves,we really are brethren. So what’s the point? It’s the destruction of the American family that under pins these disasters. Fatherlessness begets fatherlessness. It’s like a vortex that gets worse the deeper (or longer) it goes. The solution get married before sex and babies. It really is that simple.

    • I Hate Fascists

      Brian you are a beautiful man. I could kiss you.

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Hey it’s not rocket science. I’ll keep pushing the “societal opprobium” til the proverbial cows come home. There’s a reason we once called intercourse outside marriage “immoral”, because like other activities we call “immoral”, (lying, cheating, stealing, etc.) there is too high a societal cost when we fail to proscribe them. I mean, what’s the difference between losing your property to a wilful act of theft, or losing it to support children willfully abandoned by their fathers? and worse, without fathers too many grow up to be predatory thugs. (a fate these young brethren don’t deserve)

    • Deborah G

      absolutely the best answer yet. Some black leaders should be giving this messege to these poor fatherless children before they commit meyham

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Here’s the thing Deborah G, the Hispanic community is a decade or so behind the black community, and the white community only a decade behind them. That is, as fatherlessness increases, it accelerates. The number of households headed by single parent African American mothers, was similar to today’s single parent households headed by white single parent mothers only 30 years (or so) ago. The stats are truly shocking. 73% of black babies today are being born today into fatherless families. A figure white babies will hit (at today’s accelerating rate of fathers abandoning their families) in only 30 years. Fatherlessness leads to higher drop out rates, more criminal behavior, higher incarceration rates, and even earlier sexual activity and thus even more fatherless babies. (sound familiar) Being raised by a single mother myself’ (on the mean streets of Vancouver), I can attest to the fact, she lost all control of me around age 12. Happily all my friends had fathers who’d paddle them, (if they came home late or got into trouble). But imagine if there had been two out of ten of me? or three out of ten? or like now in some communities 3 out of four? We’re talking trouble with a capital T. The point is all leaders need to proclaim this message to the skies. DON’T have sex or babies until you’re married.

    • Deborah G

      I couldn’t agree with you more. BUT when the President himself approves the morning after pill and Sebellius is such a strident proponant of abortions how do we combat this? The liberal anti Christian policies are enormous and daunting. WHat have we become? A nation where family and life are so disposable? How do we get the Black and Hispanic leaders[are there any?} To get the word out. great shows with Christian values like Duck Dynasty are mocked. People ask me all the time why do I believe in a fake sky God. The country is in ruins but my faith makes me believe God will prevail. God Bless DEB

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Just keep writing (and loudly hollering) the obvious, to this (and other websites). Intercourse leads to babies. Children NEED fathers, Men who father babies in illicit relationships, (outside of marriage) are far likelier to abandon them. God bless you as well.

  • I Hate Fascists

    The murder in Oklahoma will not get same attention as the murder of Trayvon Martin. Why? Because in Oklahoma the shooters were black? Wrong. It is because in Oklahoma the shooters were apprehended, arrested and charged with murder. Not so with Zimmerman who walked free until the left wing media focused on it. Only after a month of ignoring the Trayvon Martin story did Fox News finally focus on it, initially from the standpoint of an attack on the NRA, then moving onto the racial aspects, including accusing the Justice Department of organizing anti Zimmerman protests. Goldberg you are a racist pig. This is not the first time you have tried to ignite a race war in this space. The implications of your imaginary Obama speech are clear. That it is incumbent upon blacks to prove to whites that they are harmless. And until they do it is perfectly justified to shoot them first and ask questions later.

    • Mike

      Yawn…

      • John Daly

        Couldn’t have put it better myself.

        • I Hate Fascists

          Then shut up.

          • ph16

            Why don’t you shut up?

    • smorkingapple

      BINGO!!!! I would mention that there was a self defense angle to the Zimmerman case so it wasn’t as cut and dry as you make it, but your larger point still stands. We al know if Martin had shot Zimmerman he would not have received benefit of doubt and would have had to prove his innocence.

      And the blacks having to prove to whites they are harmless piece is gospel. Think about how terrible that is. I create conditions for you that are inhumane, degrading and despicable for 400 years. Then you finally get some freedom and you have to prove to me that YOU’RE harmless? Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Especially considering I;m the one that still owns the power structure and has benefited from the 400 years of terrible conditions I put you in?

      Madness!!!

    • DonaldYoungsRevenge

      The only “racist pigs” can be found in the progressive liberal mindset. Obama and Holder are the “racist pigs.” There is not one shred of evidence proving Goldberg to be a “racist pig” but there is plenty of evidence suggesting that Obama and Holder are race baiters. Maybe it is time for Barack to have another beer summit for the Zimmerman family and now the Lane family. Hell, lets go back to the Donald Young family who’s black homosexual son was murdered while investigating accusations made by Larry Sinclair. The case is still unsolved, one would think that since Young was a close friend of Barack and Michelle and choir director at their church that Obama would have a beer summit for them suggesting that the Chicago police have been acting “stupidly” by not solving the case. You would think that Eric Holder would take over this case since Young was part of the Obama campaign team when he was murdered. Maybe the case would come too close to this Fraud in Chief??

      • smorkingapple

        The fraud destroyed your military and private equity heroes. You know, the quintessential Republicans. Burns deep doesn’t it?

    • Shark

      Hey Dumbass: Obama mad his stupid comment about Treyvon being his son before the verdict. Pull you pinhead out of your ass

    • legal eagle

      Goldberg is not a racist pig….He’s just lazy like many journalists…His blog is just regurgitating the latest race card being played by Fox News…Keeps his bitter old cult followers excited.

      • I Hate Fascists

        Ok he is a lazy racist then. Is there a distinction between playing the race card and being a racist? Trivializing an ethnic group by reducing the individuals in the group to a single entity defined by the least of the individuals in the entity, as Goldberg’s ‘Dream’ speech does, is racist no? Imposing the burden of proof on the minority is racist no? bestowing the right to sit in judgment on O’Reilly’s ‘white establishment’ is racist no?

        • legal eagle

          I said he’s not a racist…he’s a journalist who, at this point in his life, is not motivated to work for free….Don’t put words in my mouth…

          • I Hate Fascists

            Calm down bro. I am not putting words in your mouth. I called him a racist for the reasons outlined above. You want to stick up for him that’s on you. But you didn’t answer any of my questions. Not motivated to work for free? Who is? How is that relevant to this topic?

          • legal eagle

            I’m just saying….name calling is best left to the bitter old men who worship at the feet of the O’Reillys, Limbaugh’s and Hannity…The sensible side, which you and I are on, shouldn’t need to stoop down to their level…

          • I Hate Fascists

            I hear you. I do think in this context, for the reasons outlined above, that racist is an apt description of Goldberg’s ‘Dream’ speech. In other contexts I sometimes do tend to push their buttons a bit. I think it is important to show them that I can outhate them and outdebate them. That I can beat them at their game as well as our game. And I think it works because they have no response other than non-responses (eg Daly in this thread below) or threats (eg Webb in another thread below) (or above depending on your sort order).

          • legal eagle

            Daly never has a response if you bring up any hard facts…He just regurgitates right wing talking points…These comments reflect the fact that these people are still bitter that a Republican is not in the White House…soon they will begin their Hillary hating…

          • Integrity

            Legal Eagle never has a response if you bring up any hard facts…He just
            regurgitates left wing talking points…These comments reflect the fact
            that these people are still bitter that a Democrat is not the Speaker of the House…soon they will begin their Cruz hating…

          • John Daly

            lol. I’ve never seen anyone with a worse case of projection than you, legal (well, except our friend, IHF). It’s really quite stunning.

            It’s as if you’ve carefully assessed exactly who it is that you are – to your very core, written down all of your personal traits on a piece of paper, and then came to this website to tell me that I – not you – am the person described in that list. I assume it’s one of those Saul Alinsky techniques everyone’s always referencing, but I don’t really care where you learned it.

            I suppose I should be flattered to be the recipient of your self-affirming project, but you’re ignoring a vital component to your plan’s success. People can actually read the things both of us write on this website and actually see who’s actually guilty of what.

            Did I just blow your mind with that little revelation?

          • I Hate Fascists

            Yeah except when you punk out and delete everything I write.

          • John Daly

            Your potty mouth gets you deleted. You know that.

          • ph16

            Hahahaaha, it’s so funny to watch Legal Eagle and I Hate Fascists, two liberal trolls, go at each other

          • Jeff Webb

            Nobody ever had any doubt you were more hateful, Fascist.

            If you really think calling others racists constitutes outdebating, more power to you. But throwing that insult at a site representative? The threat of deletion is a pretty damn valid response, actually.

            It’s a typical cheap liberal joke, breaking a rule and then getting pissy at the people enforcing the rules.

            “Non-responses”–you guys are a crack-up.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Well apparently you make up the rules as you go along. I thought the rule was no profanity. Apparently it extends to confronting a site rep (and Proprietor Goldberg Himself) with the truth that they can’t handle? And apparently even the profanity rule doesn’t apply when it is directed at me, as you can see on this thread.
            I backed it up my racism charge. And you had no response other than a non-response to a cult follower’s non-response. So if I didn’t out debate you it’s only because you didn’t get into the debate to begin with.

          • John Daly

            Good lord.

            IHF, I’m not sure if you’re terminally dense or… Well, I actually AM sure that you’re terminally dens. But let me clue you in on something:

            Moderators on ANY website can remove any posts and ban ANY posters they see fit. The moderators HERE would prefer not to ever ban ANY posts or ANY posters. Still, it’s entirely up to the moderators’ discretion.

            People don’t have a 1st Amendment right to post whatever they want on someone else’s website. For you to suggest that that’s the case, like you have several times, is ridiculous.

            The truth is that people like you have received A LOT of leeway on this website. A LOT. We could ban you permanently, but all we’ve done in the past is essentially give you a temporary suspension, allowing you to come back with a different name or email.

            We tolerate the occasional curse word, but when it’s repeated over and over again by the same person, or the only point of that person’s repeated posts are to deliver vile, over-the-top personal attacks, we’ll have no problem viewing that as grounds for suspension.

            I’m hoping some of this sinks in, but I doubt it will.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Ok I’m trying real hard. Rule #1 the moderator… let’s see HEY THAT’S YOU!!! … always wins the debate. Rule #2 if the moderator can’t win the debate then I not only get censored but I vanish without a trace. Ok got it. So some cult follower responded “yawn” to which you responded “I couldn’t have said it better myself” (and you call yourself a writer). Ok you win!

          • Integrity

            Pfft.

          • I Hate Fascists

            I can’t argue with that. You win again!!!!!

          • I Hate Fascists

            Nevermind I thought you were Daly. You showed up as Daly but now I refreshed the page I see you are just some cult follower.

          • Integrity

            Yawn; pfft.

          • Jeff Webb

            John, is it just my computer, or is the site actually showing IHF’s name where yours should be?

          • Jeff Webb

            Cancel that–it was my computer. I just turned the crank a few times and now it’s fine.

          • I Hate Fascists

            No it isn’t your computer it always does that. You have to refresh the entire page to get it right. Even then comments are missing or out of sequence. Sometimes you can reverse the sort order (and also refresh the page) and then the missing comments may come back and others disappear.

          • Jeff Webb

            Sincere thanks. I’m computer semi-literate, to the point where a small quirk on a site makes me worry that some money will have to some out of my dessert fund to pay for new hardware or IT support.

          • I Hate Fascists

            No problem Pops. It’s a lot worse on Internet Explorer Google Chrome seems to work a lot better.

          • John Daly

            God, I hope not. There’s go my writing career. ;)

          • Jeff Webb

            So, you think because there is a rule about excess profanity, then site management has no other rules? I’d love to see your reaction if your kids were to think that of you.

          • Integrity

            You forgot to include unsubstantiated allegations. I’m just saying….name calling is best left to the bitter old men who
            worship at the feet of the O’Bama, the Clinton’s, Soros, and Al Sharpton…The
            sensible side, which the others are on, shouldn’t need to stoop down to
            their level…QED

          • legal eagle

            You have a problem with George Soros because? Is he just another right wing bogyman?

          • ph16

            How about he’s sunken entire economies before?

          • legal eagle

            He’s sunken economies? Do you have any clue about what you’re talking about?

          • Deborah G

            You have to climb to our level.

  • Wheels55

    While the Zimmerman – Martin killing seems to not have anything to do with race, this murder of Chris Lane certainly seems like it does.
    I was impressed that Jesse Jackson said anything at all, but was disappointed when he said “frowned upon”. Frowned upon is what you say to a kid that cuts up in class or eats cookies before dinner. I think murder is just unforgivably wrong.

    • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

      What Jackson was actually saying was they should have made sure they could have done the deed without getting reported

  • gold7406

    dilute “stop and frisk,” and reduce the criminality of low level drug dealers. expect more of this type of behavior.

  • Tim Ned

    Bernie,
    You may be delusional but thanks for not being a “Potted Plant”. Keep writing!

  • smorkingapple

    And can I please demolish this canard you right wing types use all the time?

    “People – and not just white people – are suspicious of young black men because young black men give them plenty of reason to be suspicious.”

    This is the usual nonsense from people that are more interested in maintaining their warped worldview than maintaining their own safety. In any other setting, we’d rightly note this is just stupidity at its worst:

    - I only want to employ Asians because they do better on the Math SAT. I therefore have reason to believe that Asians should run my company’s finances.
    - I only want my kids to marry JEws because they are more successful than others. I therefore have reason to steer my kids towards Jewish people.
    - I will tell my kids to avoid white men because most pedophiles are white men. I have good reason to fear white men around my children.
    - I will tell my kids to avoid white men because most serial killers are white men.I have good reason to fear white men around my children.
    - I will tell my kids to avoid schools with a sizable white population because most school shootings are done by white children or white people in the school’s area. I also have good reason to look upon white men with suspicion.

    See how retarded that is? There is no difference between what I wrote above and the notion that young black men should be treated with suspicion just because they are overrepresented in crime statistics. Unless of course you have a deep rooted need to paint black people as savages unfit for society. And let’s not even get into why blacks are overrepresented in crime stats or that when you control for poverty, education etc, there is really no race based difference in murder and crime participation among races. Let’s just use the stats to justify our racist beliefs.

    Racism has a tendency to justify stupidity and they are inseparable.

    And by the way Bernie, everything you said you wished Obama would say to black people, he did say. At Emory University this past May. Go Youtube it. He’s been very tough on black people using some of your own language.

    • EddieD_Boston

      If black people are afraid of young black men are they stupid or just plain racist? Your post is foolish.

      • smorkingapple

        Black people are not afraid of young black men. Nor do they use whatever “spidey sense” warnings they may feel about a group of them to paintbrush an entire race they way you cats do. That’s the point. You want to point to some statistics where a group is overrepresented but ignore others.

        • ph16

          You dodged the point, when people who live in the same low-income neighborhoods are afraid of the young black men committing the crimes that they live in, are they stupid or racist? Honestly, you’re really trying so hard to paint an entire group of people of racist, I can tell.

          • smorkingapple

            LOL I’m trying to paint an entire group? Didnt your boy Goldberg do just that with this statement?

            “People – and not just white people – are suspicious of young black men because young black men give them plenty of reason to be suspicious.”

            But that’s ok because of whatever statistics you want to use to justify what you would feel even if those statistics didnt exist or started getting better? Yeah!!!!

          • ph16

            Well ask Jesse Jackson for one thing. And by the way, Goldberg is not my boy. Smorkingapple, you’re certainly a rotten apple for sure.

        • Jeff Webb

          >>Black people are not afraid of young black men<<

          Jesse Jackson has indicated otherwise, and unless you have asked every black person out there, you can't back up your claim.

  • smorkingapple

    Why did I waste 3 mins of my life reading this article? As you say yourself, ” It’s true that there is no evidence that the teenagers targeted Chris Lane because he was white. But there was no evidence either that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin because he was black. ”

    No one claimed he SHOT him because he was black. The issue was HE PROFILED HIM BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK which is what led to the confrontation that led to him being killed. Obama’s statement was to send the message that judging people off skin color alone is asinine as the President’s son would have also looked “suspicious”. Not because he wanted to side with blacks over whites.

    One of the kids here was white which pretty much eliminates any race based angle here. Why are you comparing two VASTLY different cases? To score cheap points that don’t even stand up to the most basic scrutiny?

    Step your game up champ!!!

    And can I destroy this once and for all? “What I should have added is that there’s a good reason for all of that. People – and not just white people – are suspicious of young black men because young black men give them plenty of reason to be suspicious.”

    • Jeff Webb

      Federica Wilson, a Florida Congresswoman, said Trayvon was “hunted down like a rabid dog.”

      So yes, SOMEONE claimed he was shot because he was black.

      • I Hate Fascists

        You are equating black = rabid dog then?

        • ph16

          You know something, I Hate Fascists, I’m sick and tired of you trying to stir up trouble. No, he was not trying to say that blacks are rabid dogs, you said that he did because it fits your “conservatives” are racist. You’ve really worn out your welcome on this website. Honestly, you’re not really the type of person who’s capable of debate.

          • John Daly

            I’ve suspected for some time that he suffers from Tourettes syndrome. It would explain SO many things.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Read Congresswoman Wilson’s comment carefully you airhead. You don’t see any reference to race do you? No doubt you notice that Webb is not making any attempt to defend himself.
            I don’t need your permission to post on this website. You don’t like it? That is too bad for you because this is still a free country and not a Fascist Fantasyland and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Read Congresswoman Wilson’s comment carefully you airhead. You don’t see any reference to race do you?<> No doubt you notice that Webb is not making any attempt to defend himself.<<

            I was working, but I'm here now doing what I always do: showing you an argument being backed up. I suggest you take notes.

          • smorkingapple

            “Please show me an example of Wilson being angry about a white kid being shot if you’re convinced I’m wrong about this occasion.”

            Because we’ve had an epidemic of white kids being shot by blacks in this country. There’s also a 400 year history of oppression of whites by blacks, a destruction of the white family structure by design which has had terrible ripple effects, and till this day, making whites feel inferior as humans. So everyone should just treat them the same. Yeah!!!!!

          • I Hate Fascists

            You senile old racist Fascist. You would have been better off keeping your mouth shut. The source of her outrage is not for you to decide. But you did anyway. Which is typical of you Fascists.

          • Jeff Webb

            First, YOU’RE the Fascist, pal. You’re for the govt taking control of all our lives, not me. Find a new ad hominem insult or keep looking ignorant–your choice.

            Second, your one warning: don’t call me racist again unless you want more of your comments to disappear. You know the rules, but feel free to whine anyway.

            Third, I didn’t “decide” anything. Are you seriously unaware of the reason why Trayvon Martin’s death got so much attention by the left?

          • legal eagle

            If you’re worried about someone taking over your life I’d suggest you discuss it with your wife…..LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            Funny, in all sincerity.

            There’s only one thing that makes me as happy as that woman being my wife and my kids’ mother: the fact that I haven’t rubbed off more than I have on that angel. : )>

          • legal eagle

            We have found an area of agreement…..LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            Exactly–I’d go out & buy a lottery ticket, but I might get hit by lightning. ; )>

          • legal eagle

            Ask your wife if you can play Powerball tomorrow and I will ask mine…I hope she’ll give me the $10…..

          • I Hate Fascists

            Who are you to decide the source of Wilson’s outrage? It doesn’t matter that racism was not mentioned in her quote? Doesn’t matter to who? You? That is the height of arrogance. And whether you meant to or not you did equate black = rabid dog in your response. Own up to it and say you misspoke. Don’t try to cover it up with some nonsense parsing of profiling vs shooting. I am absolutely aware of the media coverage, both left and right, of Trayvon’s death, and I outlined it above and called Goldberg’s racism out as well.

          • Jeff Webb

            I will not own up to something I did not do. You indicated to PH you read Wilson’s quote. If you did, what are you trying to pull by attributing her rabid dog quote to me?

            Know what else I didn’t do? Parse profiling vs shooting. That was Apple.

            Now YOU own up and say you got your facts wrong.

          • I Hate Fascists

            “it doesn’t matter that you don’t see race being mentioned in her quote. The whole source of her outrage was the fact a black kid was shot.”
            Is this your quote or not?

            Wilson: “hunted down like a rabid dog.”
            You: “So yes, SOMEONE claimed he was shot because he was black”

            You don’t see that you are equating black = rabid dog?

            SmokingApple: “No one claimed he SHOT him because he was black. The issue was HE PROFILED HIM BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK ”

            You: Mr. Apple’s point wasn’t that race didn’t factor in; his point was regarding the specific act done to Martin and what people said about it: “No one claimed he SHOT him because he was black”. Well, the Congresswoman didn’t say anything along the lines of profiling, did she? Not “singled him out.” Not “assumed he was guilty.” My point was that she DID claim Zimmerman “hunted him down” because of his race.

            Yeah he said it first and you repeated it and parsed it and repackaged it in a feeble attempt to weasel out. But of course Wilson did not mention race. You did.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Wilson: “hunted down like a rabid dog.”
            You: “So yes, SOMEONE claimed he was shot because he was black”

            You don’t see that you are equating black = rabid dog?<<

            No, YOU see it, and you are wrong. Wilson's quote was used to illustrate a very specific point: that Apple was wrong that (now pay attention for once–this is an exact paste of his comment) "No one claimed he SHOT him because he was black. The issue was HE PROFILED HIM BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK."

            I know why you think you can cry racism here. You say the reason for Wilson's outrage isn't known. First of all, you did the exact thing I supposedly, and I stress SUPPOSEDLY, did that pissed you off: draw an unfair conclusion without knowing all the facts.

            Second, as much as righties like me hated it, race WAS injected into this whole matter by liberals, in some cases to an alarming degree. Based on history, there is no such thing as Sharpton going to the site of a tragedy and making noise when a white person is the victim. Wilson, like Sharpton, Spike Lee, Jesse Jackson, Obama, and others, has never gotten up in arms over white victims of black violence. It doesn't take Columbo to know that Wilson didn't accuse Zimmerman of premeditated murder because Martin was a purchaser of Skittles.

            I'm not going to indulge you here, so you may as well quit digging in. In fact, you of all people have a lot of gall trying this crap with me. You are one of the biggest sources of unsupported conclusions around here, so save the fake indignation.

            This is nothing more than an attempt to justify insulting me, not challenge the point I made to Apple.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Unsupported conclusions? Me? Yeah as long as you are the judge. But then again by that standard has any liberal ever posted anything other than an unsupported conclusion here? Whatever. Anyone can read the entire context and decide for themselves. Unless of course you decide to take the cowardly way out and delete all my comments. It wouldn’t be the first time.

          • Jeff Webb

            Yes, unsupported conclusions, unless someone else using your handle has said before that I hate anyone not like me.

            You have never been deleted when you followed the rules, and you have never been deleted by me.

            Know what’s cowardly? Making false accusations and not owning up to it for one thing. Another: breaking the rules, not owning up to it, and claiming your punishment was people arbitrarily silencing you.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Your hatred comes thru loud and clear.

            Wilson: “hunted down like a rabid dog.”
            You: “So yes, SOMEONE claimed he was shot because he was black”

            Given the above 2 statements any high school kid who has been taught basic logic (which we have already established that you have no knowledge of) will tell you that you are equating black and rabid dog.

            You: “…it doesn’t matter that you don’t see race being mentioned in her quote. The whole source of her outrage was the fact a black kid was shot. Please show me an example of Wilson being angry about a white kid being shot if you’re convinced I’m wrong about this occasion.”.

            I never heard of Congresswoman Wilson until you injected her into the conversation to prove your point. But of course it didn’t prove your point. But unless I come up with another Wilson quote your flimsy evidence becomes airtight? That is a very novel legal concept. No doubt Counselor Eagle will tell you that you would be laughed out of court with that kind of argument.

          • ph16

            There you go again, accusing people you disagree with of being fascists. That’s why, I wish you would go away.

          • DonaldYoungsRevenge

            Keep posting “I Hate Facists” it is a joy to watch a mutated liberal virus doing its work in the brains of the progressive.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Flattery will get you nowhere buttboy

          • ph16

            I didn’t say you needed my permission, obviously you don’t, otherwise you wouldn’t be here. I will say this though, you contribute nothing to this site, you accuse others of being racist, sexist, bigots, or whatever with people you disagree with and I forgot, fascists.So I don’t know why you waste your time here when you could be on MSNBC getting thrills up your leg with Chris Matthews or that fool Al Sharpton.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Tormenting you Fascists gives me a thrill up my … well nevermind

      • legal eagle

        Well then take it up with Congresswoman Wilson…

    • DonaldYoungsRevenge

      The only reason this is being talked about in this manner is that since Holder and Obama have made it a practice of injecting themselves in cases where they should not be commentng about. Once they started they are now obligated to comment on other cases. Holder and Obama are the least qualified in any room they walk into and thus we have two nut jobs creating chaos all across the country. They cannot help themselves, that is the nature of a “community organizer” and “race baiters.”

      • smorkingapple

        Chaos? LMAO…

        Only to you “scared of angry black people” types. They commented on this case because of the attention it was receiving and the fact that Zimmerman had not been arrested yet. Not to “race bait”, whatever the hell that means. By the way, can you guys stop inventing terms you toss around right wing radio but really have no idea what the definition really is?

        You think Obama and Holder caused more black people to get angry? Really?

  • Gina101

    “It’s true that there is no evidence that the teenagers targeted Chris Lane because he was white.”  Check out Chancey Luna’s racist postings in his fb page. He’s a racist.

  • Len Wenzlick

    Hmm, as soon as POTUS won his Nobel Peace Prize, Chicago’s youth Gangs went wild in the streets? A young black man, (an honor roll student) was beat to death with a big ol’ 4″ by 4″ on his way home from school. that was a black-on-black crime. Soon after Chicago’s gangs increased their violent rampages with blind abandon. Chicago suffered through its most violent summer since the days of “Al Capone”!
    Oh, by the way, eventually the violence subsided with the introduction of the Illinois Nat’l Guards, but the fact that BHO noncommittally organized windy city is still history. His legacy seems to be following him where ever he goes, with what- ever he says! Fast & Furious, Stimuli/Bail Outs, Ocrapcare, MBH, BENGAZI, IRS, NSA and any subject you can inject has turned out to be a falsehood period!
    Hmm, a legacy of worthless words?
    So in closing I’ll just keep my TV remote channel changer handy in case he speaks to the victims of his policies!

  • wyatt81

    Blacks are victims, so they can’t ever be in the wrong. Whites are victimizers, so thay can’t ever be right. Whatever happens to whites is justiifed by previous history anyway. The comfortable, entrenched, and incredibly destructive prism of the politically correct today.

    • smorkingapple

      Karma sucks doesn’t it?

      • wyatt81

        Must be nice to be as enlightened and non-bigoted as you are. Looking down with contempt on all the dumb bigots, shaking your head with pity.

        • smorkingapple

          It is bro, try it sometime. Racism is stupid to begin with and only brings you down. Those that are enlightened find out all races have much in common with the differences not even worth being divided over.

          • EddieD_Boston

            And other people think you’re a pathetic fool. You want to think your better than others so common sense doesn’t factor in. Just remember my smug friend, others are laughing at you.

          • smorkingapple

            It’s cool bro, why do you think I frequent sites like this for? I’m laughing at you guys too.

    • gold7406

      you must have sat in rev. wright’s church for 20 years too, but you actually listened.

      • wyatt81

        I’m sure Obama was listening-and liking what he was hearing. The enlightened left and many blacks condone reverse racism as a form of justifed revenge. Yet I thought all forms of racism were wrong? I smell hypocrisy…

        • smorkingapple

          Yet when we bomb Muslims and torture them in response to 9/11 it’s cool. It’s “justified revenge”. But blacks being angry and bitter at 400 years of oppression, slavery, etc? Reverse racism. Yeah!!!!!

          • wyatt81

            So selective racism is condoned as a justified form of revenge. And the anger and bitterness are nursed and indulged for…how long? Who says when penance is completed?

          • smorkingapple

            Hey, you over 9/11 yet and ready to embrace Muslims? Didnt think so.

          • wyatt81

            It’s not about Muslims-it’s about Muslims who murder. And there are many Muslims who don’t condone what the terrorists are doing. You, on the other hand, seem to have a real axe to grind and enjoy what’s happening in this country because we “have it coming to us.” While you stand on the side and say “I’m not one of the bad white people-I’m one of the good ones.”

          • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

            When the Muslims remove their edicts from the Koran inciting violence against the infidels. Like when the pedophile prophet is called out for what he was. Then maybe we let the Muslims back into the human race.

          • Jeff Webb

            Guess which race has enslaved blacks more than any other. If you guess correctly, you might start to allow for the possibility that being bitter at white people isn’t as justified as you thought.

            Another idea: guess which race fought for, died for, and killed oppressors for blacks to be free, more than any other.

          • smorkingapple

            Nice, so I guess whites hate each other too. WW1 and 2, the Inquisition, countless other wars. Hell whites have done more to other whites than blacks ever could. Why aren’t you clutching your purse when you walk by a white dude?

            So blacks enslaved each other, mostly because blacks were the only race they had ever seen, then whites come thru, buy a couple of slaves, bring them across the ocean, enslave them further for centuries, don’t grant them rights, consider them 3/5ths of a person, lynch them, break up their families, etc. and it’s ok because blacks were enslaving each other in Africa. Mind you, whites were the “civilized” while blacks were the “savages”.

            Dude, stop reading Stormfront and N!ggermania.

          • Jeff Webb

            Impressive. You actually think missing one point, ignoring another, and ranting ignorantly is debating.

            I appreciate you making me appear smarter than you, but it’s not necessary.

          • smorkingapple

            *SIGH*

            “Guess which race has enslaved blacks more than any other.”

            My response:

            “So blacks enslaved each other, mostly because blacks were the only race they had ever seen”

            My counterpoint:

            “Nice, so I guess whites hate each other too. WW1 and 2, the Inquisition, countless other wars. Hell whites have done more to other whites than blacks ever could. Why aren’t you clutching your purse when you walk by a white dude?”

            Your other point:

            “Another idea: guess which race fought for, died for, and killed oppressors for blacks to be free, more than any other.”

            My response:

            So whites killed other whites who were oppressing blacks, further reinforcing my original point that whites have done more to whites than blacks ever have, so why are you so scared of blacks?

            Respond to that champ….

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Respond to that champ..<<

            You got it, Slappy.
            It's like whites are getting ALL the blame for slavery, and that's why they deserve all the present crap. This, despite they have nothing on blacks when it comes to slavery (it's still happening abroad), and they sacrificed life and limb to end it.

            It makes me sick knowing slavery was practiced by white Americans long ago, but your whole Karma argument is a disgrace.

          • smorkingapple

            You didn’t respond. Why are you so afraid of blacks when statistics show over the course of entire human history, whites are more dangerous to each other than blacks are? Why are you more afraid of Muslims when you will most likely die of a car crash or commit suicide than be killed in terrorist attack?

            So you want to benefit from the slavery and the ripple effects, but not feel any burden from it? Nor have to suck up the inevitable focus on white on black crime due to the history behind white on black crime? How in the F does that work? This is like Madoff’s kids inheriting millions from their father’s scam yet feeling no remorse or burden by how the scam impacted the victims or their children.

            WOuld you trade being white for black, even if you could keep your entire upbringing? No you would not. Why not? Because you know the stigma it brings, you know how you’ll be perceived by others and you wouldn’t like it.

          • Jeff Webb

            A) Where does it say I’m afraid of blacks?!

            B) ditto Muslims

            C) I will not accept any remote responsibility for slavery anymore than I’d demand that blacks forget it ever existed because thousands upon thousands of white people gave their lives to end slavery. Don’t invent obligations for people like that, and don’t think for a minute I owe anyone so much as a speck of remorse. You don’t know the first thing about what I’ve done in my life.

            D) Ask Halle, Barack, and Beyonce if they’d rather be white or black. They are every bit white as they are black, yet identify with their black side only.

            This particular position of yours is utter crap.

          • smorkingapple

            Wait, so NOW Obama has some white in him? I thought he was the Kenyan Muslim anti-colonialist that was bringing Sharia Law to the US? And you dodged the question.

            ” I will not accept any remote responsibility for slavery anymore than I’d demand that blacks forget it ever existed because thousands upon thousands of white people gave their lives to end slavery”

            Of course you won’t but you’re just fine accepting the benefits of 400 years of oppression right? You’re fine living with the perks of being caucasian in America, yet boo hoo when it seems “unfair” media coverage is slanted towards white on black crime vs other way around?

            Answer the question: would you trade evenness in media coverage in race on race crimes if it meant you had to give up some of those perks? Of course not. Bottom line, you want to enjoy the gifts bestowed to you because of your skin color? Cool, but it also means you have to bear a burden you may not feel is fair. Welcome to how it feels to be Black in America on a much smaller scale.

            For you to even try to compare the white lives lost fighting the Civil War vs what was lost during the 400 years of slavery and oppression just betrays your own bias. We’re talking drops in the bucket here vs torrential rainfall and that’s not even including all the post Civil War oppression.

            And can we dispel the myth that all these noble white guys were fighting to free the blacks? The Civil War was fought to protect the tax revenues of the US when the South wanted to pull out of the union.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Wait, so NOW Obama has some white in him? I thought he was the Kenyan Muslim anti-colonialist that was bringing Sharia Law to the US? And you dodged the question.<>Of course you won’t but you’re just fine accepting the benefits of 400 years of oppression right? You’re fine living with the perks of being caucasian in America, yet boo hoo when it seems “unfair” media coverage is slanted towards white on black crime vs other way around?<>For you to even try to compare the white lives lost fighting the Civil War vs what was lost during the 400 years of slavery and oppression just betrays your own bias.<<

            And for you to single out whites over blacks betrays YOURS. Historically, blacks have the most guilt, by a huge margin, for enslavement of others. I thought you cared less about the relative drops in the bucket.

          • smorkingapple

            Referring me back to C dodges the question. Are you willing to trade or not? I know the answer. The larger point is you want even coverage when the uneven coverage is a direct result of the unequal treatment blacks have endured for centuries which you currently benefit from. You want to keep the benefits but avoid the drawbacks? Sorry champ. Blacks aint got it like that. They’d GLADLY be called racists or bigots or whatever term in exchange for being treated equally in any number of areas.

            “Historically, blacks have the most guilt, by a huge margin, for enslavement of others”

            Where did you get this from? Stormfront? Why does history, which you know, was largely written by white people, disagree mightily with you? I’m actually open to hearing this and changing my mind if you have solid evidence.

          • Jeff Webb

            I’m not dodging anything; you’re ignoring (C).
            I reject the entire premise of your argument, and your insistence that I or anyone else follow this standard you expect. You believe in it a great deal, but that doesn’t mean it’s valid, and it sure as hell doesn’t impress me. Try selling it elsewhere.

            Speaking of dodging, care to answer (D)? If it is so unthinkable for a person to prefer being black over white, why would Obama or Halle Berry prefer it? If you’re right, then they wouldn’t be identifying at all with their black side, especially given that their white parents (and grandparents) were far better to them than their black parents.

            I never said any of that Kenyan Muslim crap, so let’s not confuse things with it, mmmkay?

          • smorkingapple

            Let’s make this trade. We’ll get the media, Al Sharption, Jesse Jackson et al to focus on black on black crime, black on white crime the same way they do white on black crime. In return, you agree to be subjected to being profiled while black, stopped and frisked for no other reason than how you look, and prove you are harmless vs being given benefit of the doubt.

            Deal or no deal?

          • Jeff Webb

            As poignant as your post is, arguments like Karma/centuries of oppression are no less disgraceful.

            No sane or aware person would think there is no such thing as a police precinct with bigotry (or anywhere else). But it isn’t accurate to say that profiling a person, black or not, is always wrong. Same for stop & frisk.

            I’m white, and I’ve actually been profiled twice. I could’ve made a stink when it was done by the Hispanic officer, but I knew it would’ve been ridiculous. There was a suspect who fit my description. If a cop pulls over an innocent 23-year-old black man in a beige 2010 BMW 7-Series, would you cry foul if there was a suspect on the loose described as a young black male last seen in a beige late model 2010 sedan?

            Whether or not S&F is sound policy can certainly be debated, but it could only be argued as racist if every single person stopped were one race, in an area where they are but one of many.

            Again, not saying there aren’t bad apples doing bad things; just that you made it sound like it’s always the case.

          • legal eagle

            That’s some impressive logic…..Who fought for and died for blacks to be free?

          • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

            Reread your post Sorry

    • legal eagle

      Conservatives are victims…that’s why they are never wrong…

  • Disc_Coastie

    And from the WH….crickets! Chirp chirp!

  • Dan Farfan

    Well put, Bernie.

    “I’m delusional.”

    If you publish a book of full speeches that woulda, coulda, shoulda happened since 2008, I predict it’ll outsell even your previous successes.

    We need you to teach politicians on “both sides of the aisle” to speak to us. We need YOU to demonstrate that it’s okay for pols to tell us things that we don’t want to hear and to raise issues that are uncomfortable to discuss .. as long as it’s done in a serious, candid, honest, adult manner.

    Title? Delusional

    The delusion isn’t that it’ll ever happen. The delusion is pois believe none of us can tell the difference.

    @DanFarfan

    • Integrity

      You are on to something here. QED

  • Cat1984

    I was called a racist for pointing out the races of the boys involved in the bus attack. The victim was white the perps were black. I mentioned that if the tables were turned and white kids were attacking a black kid who ratted them out to the school authorities everyone would be crying about how racism is alive and well. But I guess we can’t point out that this was not just a case of beating up a narc but of reverse racism!

    I agree with everything in this article. Too bad the pres only gets involved when he gets to talk about the big bad white guy (even when he’s wrong!).

    • smorkingapple

      Blame centuries of white oppression for that. You benefited from it, dont cry when it prevents you from calling something out now.

      WOuld you prefer to trade the impact of centuries of white oppression and how it benefited you just so you could call it reverse racism today so it gets covered as such? Didn’t think so.

      • Jeff Webb

        >>Blame centuries of white oppression for that. You benefited from it,
        dont cry when it prevents you from calling something out now.<<

        No, blame people who don't give a damn about facts.

      • Cat1984

        You make assumptions not in evidence.

      • ph16

        I was always taught that “Two wrongs don’t make a right”, you must have been taught differently.

        • smorkingapple

          So that means you were horrified at Abu Ghraib, waterboarding of innocents, Guantanamo, collateral damage, etc? Or was that OK to right the “wrong” of 9/11?

          • ph16

            No that wasn’t okay.

      • Cat1984

        What makes you think that I ever benefited from white oppression? Because there is white fur on my avatar? You assume facts not in evidence and therefore show yourself to be quite the racist.

  • Bruce A.

    Excellent. Maybe The President will say something close on his latest bus tour in NY & PA Friday.

  • Mainline

    Totally agreed and not holding my breath either.

    • Raptormann

      I have felt that way for a long time. The race baiters and hucksters of all sorts love to throw out the “Racist” word whenever they want to stop debate.
      Don’t bring up facts or quote the numbers because if you do, we’ll yell RACIST!
      But I’ve gotten old enough to where I don’t give a damn anymore!