Israel in the United Nations’ Crosshairs … Again

GazaThere are few certainties in life, but one that you can reliably count on is that the United Nations will condemn Israel every chance it gets.

Between 2006 when the UN’s so-called Human Right Council was established until 2013, the “humanitarians” on the council condemned Israel 45 times. In fact, it passed almost as many resolutions condemning Israel as it did for the rest of the world – combined.

And just the other day the Human Rights Council voted to set up a war crimes inquiry regarding the fighting in Gaza. Technically, the Council will look into crimes on both sides, but who are we kidding?

According to the BBC: “The UN’s top human rights official has condemned Israel’s military actions in the Gaza Strip, saying that war crimes may have been committed.

“Navi Pillay told an emergency debate at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva that Israel’s military offensive had not done enough to protect civilians.

“She also condemned Hamas for ‘indiscriminate attacks’ on Israel.”

That last line notwithstanding, we know which side will come in for the UN’s condemnation.

Civilian casualties are a tragedy, whether they’re Palestinian or Israeli. But it’s Hamas that hides its weapons among its civilians. Twice in recent days the UN found rockets at UN schools. It’s Hamas that uses civilians as human shields. Fact is, while Israel is trying to avoid civilian casualties, Hamas is rooting for more Palestinian deaths, knowing that the world will turn on Israel – as much of it already has – when they see those pictures of dead Palestinian children, killed by stray Israeli rockets.  Israel condemns its murderers.  Hamas turns them into heroes and names public squares after them.

And if you watch enough stories about Gaza on TV, you’ll notice a thread weaving through the coverage, a thread about “disproportionate” deaths in the fighting.

Listen and you’ll hear the reporter saying that 500 (or whatever the number is today) Palestinian civilians have been killed, and then after a short pause, the reporter will give the number of Israeli deaths – zero at first, then a slightly higher number after that.

You know they’re aching to scream, “How unfair is that?” but instead they merely imply it. As if decency demands proportional deaths.

There’s an explanation for this journalistic angst. One of the fundamental tenets of liberalism is concern for the underdog. Another is unease with power. What doesn’t occur to these people is that sometimes the underdog is the bad guy. And power, in the right hands, is a plus. After all, the Israelis didn’t invade Gaza until they had had enough of Hamas’ rockets fired at Israeli civilians.

In a column on this website, Dennis Prager made an intelligent argument against Israel’s enemies, and the loss of their moral compass. Here are a few of the points he made:

Hamas openly admits that its reason for being is to annihilate Israel. It “sends missiles to explode in the most populated parts of [Israel] in order to kill as many civilians as possible.” Hamas uses families and individual civilians as human shields to protect its own leaders from attack. Hamas has tortured and killed domestic political opponents. And Israel has many human rights groups dedicated to the welfare of the Palestinian people.

So where is much of the world’s sympathy directed? Not at Israel.  Perhaps the most vile observation on the fighting in Gaza came from Turkey’s Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogen, who told CNN International that what’s going on in Gaza is “genocide by Israel,” adding, “What Israel does to Palestine, to Gaza right now, has surpassed what Hitler did to them.”  This from a supposed sophisticated leader of a civilized country.

As for the UN, what countries are represented on its Human Rights Council?  Well there are sensitive souls  from Algeria and China and Cuba and Russia and Saudi Arabia to name just a few of the countries that, as we all know, that are bright, shining beacons of human rights.  Unless you offend the people in power.

Now that there’s a good chance the UN Human Rights Commission will find Israel guilty of war crimes, maybe it’s time to implement an old idea I’ve been floating for years: Kick the UN out of New York. Turn that iconic structure into a high-rise, high-end luxury apartment building. And tell the folks who run the UN to move their headquarters someplace else – like Somalia, or Syria or maybe even Gaza, where they can pass all the anti-Israeli resolutions they want.

 

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  • http://www.thebatcave.net Baba Booey

    Starting with the last paragraph…”Kick the UN out of New York…”

    AMEN!!!

    “moronic structure” tho – instead of iconic

  • worker1950

    Bernie, Where are ALL the American Jews?? They voted for Obama in both 2008 and 2012, 70-80+%. Where are the Jewish politicians like –Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, Levine, Wasserman-Schultz? They have stood by Obama, supported him through all of his scandals. Helped him pull in mega bucks from rich Jewish donors, used their influence w/ the MSM to down play his incompetence and now when the rubber meets the road they can’t influence him to stand strong for Israel.

    The irony is that the strongest supporters in America for Israel are the GOP and Conservatives.

    • brent kaufman

      As an American Jew I can only say that you’re correct. The vast majority of American Jews have (without judging) abandoned their heritage and don’t identify with Jewish values as much as Humanistic values, thus, the feel-goodness of liberalism is attractive because, as a staunch liberal once told me, “It’s nicer.”

      In general, religious Jews have voted conservatively and understand what you’re asking, and mourn the same thing.

  • Michael Dean Lewis

    Who to influence in Congress to begin removing the UN from NYC, the US and then to significantly reduce our financial support? Where are the wise people?

    • Cosette

      Where are the wise people? Obviously, they’re out here in the “wilderness,” away from the politicians inside the walled fortress of Washington, D.C. This is why we need to have the freedom of national referendums, for We, the People, to express our policy beliefs at the ballot box which would have greater impact on the members of Congress and the President. Writing letters to them and calling their offices have little effect. We need a better method of bringing down that invisible wall; national referendums might be a step in that direction. But, realistically, we’d have to ask them for permission… so it ain’t going to happen.

      • loupgarous

        Numbers USA is an example of a group that exerts considerable power by coordinating constituents to call their Senators and Representatives when bad bills come which need to be defeated. That group may just have made the critical difference between “immigration reform” (which is like calling Bill Clinton’s behavior in office “women’s rights reform”) and Congress’ present insistence that the President obey existing immigration law.

    • loupgarous

      Not so much the “wise people” but the “brave people.” Ted Cruz has guts. He just doesn’t caucus very well, and “wise person” Thad Cochran has shown that older Republicans in the Senate would willingly jump into bed with the Left just to keep their jobs. Now, having demonstrated that, Mr. Cochran will be hard-pressed to show what makes him not a leftist Democrat, since they won a primary for him.

  • Cosette

    So, here we are… 5 days into this discussion. And with 172 comments at the time of my writing, it is noticeable that there have been no comments from a couple of formerly frequent contributors and strong Obama supporters: namely, JMax and Legal Eagle. It would have been especially interesting to hear from Mr. Eagle since he stated at least once that he had family members who perished in the Holocaust. For once, it may have been enlightening to have read their opinions.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Actually, Legal Eagle was banned from this site a while back.

      • Cosette

        Really? That’s a fact? Well, in this instance — and this instance only — it’s too bad. Because I’d like to hear his convoluted reasoning for defending Obama on this issue. Thanks for the info, John.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Yeah. It takes a lot to get banned from this website, but he tried pretty hard. If you want to reach out to him, here’s his Twitter account (he started following me after his ban, lol): https://twitter.com/asl3676

          • Cosette

            Nope, don’t miss him that much. Just wanted to see his comments on this subject.

      • loupgarous

        Really? As annoying as he occasionally was, most of his insane missives weren’t all that bad by blog standards. Not questioning your judgment, John, but speculating on how bad that last post must have been. And I speak as a 57-year old “bitter old white man” by LE’s disinformation.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Let’s just say that it was a combination of many things, that did indeed have a final straw (graphic stuff that he had been warned about). When it got to the point where he was essentially daring us to ban him, it was time to cut him loose.

  • moafu

    Right on, Bernie. In the 70′s a Wyoming Cowboy said to me, “They orta rope the UN buildin to a bull and pull it out ta sea, then stop givin ‘em money”. It’s time Congress woke up. Almost useless organization.

  • DanB_Tiffin

    Have you been on an airline lately? Did you go through all the security stuff? Do you remember when this was not needed? I do. It was not Israel or the Swedes or the Japanese or the Brazilians who threaten everyone on earth and necessitate these new security things.

  • alan james

    I agree with Bernie 100%…The LIBERAL media has been kissing B. O. ‘s butt for so long…I no longer watch Diane Sawyer fawn and droll as do Brian Williams at NBC (the network NO BODY CARES to watch) See FOX news Brian to learn real news reporting..but my question is this…Why do so many of the Jewish Faith VOTE For democratic idiots like the ass clown we have in office today?

    • oriole

      My sentiments exactly. Can someone give us an answer as to why the Jewish faith votes for them.

      • moafu

        Hi, Oriole,
        Your question demands a broad public evaluation and exposure. I’ve asked many Jewish leaders same question. One said to me: “My customer’s perception is my reality”. American Jewish Community perception is that the Left is more egalitarian and compassionate. Those qualities are appealing to the Jewish people who have suffered so many indignities over the centuries. It causes Jewish people to “perceive” the Right as not compassionate. They are wrong…..but….our reality is their perception and we should deal with it respectfully to swing the vote.

        • oriole

          I would not use the word compassionate to describe the left. The left requires dependency so they can control the majority. I would think that wise Americans Jewish or otherwise would like to step away from that control when it is obvious it is so destructive.
          There is more compassion in allowing people to achieve their own rewards.

          • moafu

            Agreed.

    • Andy

      I am Jewish and so many of my family and Jewish friends voted for Obama- TWICE. Just mind boggling. Most of them, though, are low info voters; reflexively vote for Democrats and tend to buy the stupid slogans the Dems peddle at election time like “War on Women.”

  • American Jew

    Screw the UN. Screw the Muslim barbarians. And screw our fucktard president Obama. Remember his association with anti Semites like Rev Wright in Chicago. Any Jew that backs Obama is a self hating asshole.

    • Mike the mailman

      Amen to that! When will an effective jewish speaker with some media-star power stand at the podium and wake-up his fellow a.eric an jews? How stupid can a liberal jewish voter be to ignore the glaring anti semite bias in all western press, tv and film. If the jews in the media don’t start speak in truth to the mainstream, it won’t get done. Where the hell is spielberg and all the other kings of hollywood?

      • worker1950

        Where is Barbra Streisand? Why isn’t she having a big fundraiser for Israel? She sure raised mega bucks for Obama.

        • Mike the mailman

          Becuz politics trumps everything in their worldview. It IS their religion. Look at how they howl at the war on women and minoities, while crucifying the sarah palins, con i rices, clarence thomas and dr. Ben carson

      • loupgarous

        Adam Sandberg is supposed to be a conservative. Doubtless he’s also bright enough to realize what would happen to his future job opportunities for coming out against Obama. Most of us aren’t in his position.

        • Mike the mailman

          Isn’t it strange how well an actor can articulate the tinyest feelings of frustrations, love, ironies……ect, in interviews and on film, yet when the enormous reality of war in the middle east rages on, hollywoods brilliant communicators are at a total loss of words….or feelings….or courage

  • loupgarous

    That the UN’s Human Rights Council is run by representatives of the most heinous violators of human rights (as defined in the Helsinki Accords) shows that it’s time again for the United States to defund that organization, as the Reagan administration did back in the 1980s. When they feel the heat, they’ll see the light.

    • oriole

      Look who they let in and who they keep out? Defunding is the answer to a lot of our problems. Let the congress who supposedly holds the purse strings start defunding a lot of Obama’s folly. That is the only way to gain back some control and balance to our country.

  • Brian Stover

    Obama and his media sycophants forget one important thing…Israeli leaders take the defense of their tiny country seriously.
    Hamas would be better off attacking America. In exchange for a cease fire, Obama would give them Puerto Rico.

  • Iggy Autry

    Here’s something different for a perpetual story: The Media’s love to pat themselves on the back for being big enough to be against Israel and for the little guy:

    “There’s an explanation for this journalistic angst. One of the fundamental tenets of liberalism is concern for the underdog. Another is unease with power”

    When I read that – something snapped into place I haven’t been able to get a fix on properly. Part of the reason they are uneasy with power is – having it – you might actually have to do something…

    …When, for the average person on The Left, it is someone else’s place to do something.

    The Palestinian situation is great – for them – because they’ll never have to stop patting themselves on the back about how noble and wonderful they are for supporting them against Israel.

    Nobody (except God) is ever going to do anything to come remotely close to a definitive answer to it. Even if the US had the power and wisdom necessary to solve the solution, given the nature of how the isolated problem reverberates in that region and that region dominates the world – economically (and spiritually) speaking – they’d never be able to use that power to implement the solution…

    …and that makes it cake for The Left. They never have to actually DO anything.

    They can throw words and drops of money at it — perpetually…

    But most importantly — they can forever —- feel good —- about the words they themselves use – and how they keep sending other people’s money…

    This has been kicking around my head since I saw some personal real life event (here in the Middle East, by the way):

    I’m leaving work in my SUV carpool.

    The car in front pulls out into the street and gets smashed, hard, by a pickup truck whose brakes I don’t remember hearing… Members of the other team we work with (mostly North Americans like us) are in the 4-door sedan that just got rammed. It spins them around and takes them off the road. The pickup sits in the middle of it reduced by about a 1/3rd of its size…

    We all oooh and awwwhh as we experience the crash. I throw our SUV in park and have my hand on my seatbelt and then door and am out on the road checking if anything is coming as I walk over to the smoldering vehicle of our coworkers who are beginning to emerge from the wreck…

    ….when I notice….I’m all alone…….

    Not a single one of my highly liberal — highly engaged in talking in the office every day as they scan headlines and blog-site posts — college educated, dedicated, enlightened, “open-minded” (trying hard not to laugh my butt off at that right now), correct-thinking —– American coworkers —- had it occur to them — getting out of the AC-ed vehicle of ours to check on people they love to tell how to think EVERY SINGLE DAY in the office – might be – you know – kinda what a normal person should want to do….

    One of them was a former ACLU lawyer and all that – but – dang – it’s over 100 degrees outside —— and surely —– someone will handle it….

    …..Isn’t that where the tax money goes to pay for police and fire trucks and ambulances? (Even though they don’t do taxes here….)

    I was honestly very surprised by their behavior.

    I’m the one who sits in his own room every day – avoiding the common area.

    I’m the one considered the loner who doesn’t seem to want to hear them pontificating the wisdom they just pulled from John Stewart, The NY Times, and likes of Daily Kos or The New Republic.

    They are the ones with the big bleeding hearts…

    And I’m the one who felt compelled to see if people I know are OK after a bad accident……

    They didn’t even feel guilty enough to warrant getting out of their seats…

    I couldn’t believe that…

    (Other people we work with pulled off the road or parked in the line leaving work and walked over or at least yelled over to see if anyone were hurt. (Thankfully, some of them were North Americans too – otherwise – I’d have been more generally pissed off and more confused about what I thought was common sense….)

    It took me days to start to figure out why this was stuck in my head:

    How these basically nice guys – (who did drive me nuts from the start long ago by passive-aggressively demanding everyone in the place think like they do by how they race in the morning to be the first to pull the best item off the Internet that lets them give the juiciest bits of Liberal talking points) —- could be so dang —– indifferent —- to what they had just seen happen to people I know they care about and like as friends…..

    It wasn’t their place to actually do something…

    They supply the caring hearts.

    That doesn’t inconvenience them at all. It actually makes them feel better about themselves.

    Other people actually do the work. And if not, then, well, that’s something to complain about….

    Obama’s foreign policy fits this. Bosnia in the 1990s fits this. A lot of things that fit this come immediately to mind…

    • Iggy Autry

      Actually, this is probably why my hatred for The Media has grown ever-larger – the more advocacy journalism it has become.

      What does this modern media see as its job: It believes it is actually doing something by —– basically brow beating others into doing what it dictates is the correct thing to do…

      That is the height of today’s journalist doing what they believe they are noble for doing…

      Instead of giving facts and real, unfiltered, un-aimed news – their jobs are being – as Mr. Goldberg once noted a journalism professor stating, “being agents for change” —-

      — Instead of getting jobs to do something – they get ones in journalism where they can have a long career trying to “influence” the person in that job to do it for them…..

      Why become a politician or civil servant when you can tell all politicians and civil servants what they should do? And if they don’t do it, you can rip them apart?

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Happiest 100th anniversary of WW, also known as “the great war” or “the war to end all wars”. Yet it still reverberates today. Take Gaza and Israel. In 1917 the allies were losing against the Germans and Ottomans. One of the solutions was to get the Ottoman subjects to rebel. (remember Lawrence of Arabia). Thus the Arabs and Jews were offered independent states in return for rising against their Ottoman overlords. At wars end Arab blood bought some 24-30 separate Arab states covering some 5 million square miles of territory. Jewish blood on the other hand got only a sub citizenship in a British protectorate. That these Arab states wrested from the Ottomans still exist today as legitimate powers, is proof the allies had every right to parcel out the remnants of the defeated Ottomans as they saw fit. Israel is NOT some transplanted European experiment among a recalcitrant Arab people. Like the Arabs of that day, the land they occupy was paid in full by their own blood, shed in “a war to end all wars”. Just a brief reading of the allied dead from that war will take your breath away. (most allied countries had greater deaths from this war than WW2). At it’s end, the maps of Europe and middle East were fully and completely changed. Dozens of new countries sprang from the collapsed Empires of the old European order. Peoples were dislocated and transplanted by the tens of millions, yet today, (a 100 years later), the only one causing the world to tear it’s hair out is the Jewish one. A country who in the end only got some 6000+ square miles of a postage stamp size nation. The reason? Anti-Semitism, pure and simple.

  • Brian Stover

    Israel should re-take Gaza and bring it into prosperity. The people there will enjoy food, housing, and employment.
    Then they will realize that Hamas screwed them.
    Only then will peace break out.

    • DanB_Tiffin

      They will ALWAYS hate, hate, hate, hate Jews as liberals will ALWAYS believe in collectivism. They will NEVER “realize” reality at all.

  • JASVN67

    Berny, that Tuckey, a member of NATO, would make any condemnation of Israel is troubling in its self. I agree with you that the UN has not and never will support Israel. One can not think for a moment that if Hamas had the military capabilities of the Jewish state, that it would not use it to totally wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Given Sec. Kerry’s remarks on an open mic the other day, one could make the argument that the Administration half heartedly supports Israel’s right to defend itself. It would not be surprising if this Administration drags its feet on Israel’s requests for financial aid to replenish its Iron Dome missiles that it needs, to continue defending itself from the rocket attacks raining down on them! My opinion aligns with yours, the time has come to give the UN the boot and let it fend for itself else where.

  • SAWB69

    I’m with you Bernie. Get the UN out of this country! I think Zimbabwe would be nice….

  • LHS

    First we leave the UN.
    Second, we tell the world to move themselves and all their crap out of our building and hold their anti American meetings elsewhere. We will
    not being contributing to this failed scheme any longer

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    I prefer we pull out of the UN. Period. Let them go to another country and suck off their largess. Send the bums and the snakes who love living the high life in Manhattan out of this country. When’s the last time the UN helped avert a crisis or solve one? It’s just another bureaucracy we support with our money while most members hate us.

    • wildjew

      Even Republicans want to stay in the United Nations. I’m pretty sure in is still in “our” (I am a Republican) national party platform, as is our support for a Palestinian Muslim-terror state at Israel’s throat in our party platform since George W. Bush and (Fox News contributor) Karl Rove put it there, August 2004.

  • wildjew

    Bernie, you wrote: “Civilian casualties are a tragedy, whether they’re Palestinian or Israeli.” At least you did not write about all the “innocent” Palestinian civilians like we are hearing and reading constantly on Fox News and other news sources. From Israel’s perspective, Palestinian civilians are enemy civilians, just as Jewish civilians are enemy civilians in the eyes of the Palestinians, just as German civilians were enemy civilians in the eyes of the Allies during the second world war. Think about the implications of your statement. Can you imagine a reporter or journalist writing about the USAF and RAF bombings of German cities, “Civilian casualties are a tragedy, whether they are German or American or British.”

  • FloridaJim

    The United Nations consists of perhaps, 192 “nations” 32 of which are contributing positively to the world the rest are like race-baiters simple moving from crisis to crisis fro their own gain. Israel tries hard to avoid schools and population centers but Hamas moves the simpletons in harm’s way to create the videos of how Israel is “killing citizens” everything from Hamas and the mid-east is a scam to do as the ISIS say “either convert, pay taxes or die” those are the choices for Christians and Jews now soon it will be other sects as it has been since the 7th century. Islam is a foul religion based on hatred and lies; think not read this :”The Devil We don’t Know-The Dark side Of Revolutions in The Mid-east”
    By Nonie Darwish

    or this:Gaddafi’s Harem-Annick Cojean-The story of a young woman and the abuses of power in Libya by Gaddafi
    When CAIR defends this horrid religion ask them “is Hamas a terrorist organization ?”

  • Brian Stover

    The only true purpose of the UN is to be a place where diplomats can discuss ideas over a drink.
    Convert the first two floors of the UN building into a giant cocktail lounge, and rent the rest out as apartments.
    Oh yeah, we should stop paying dues.

  • mike cowan

    The Palestinians want to destroy Israel. Hamas is worse than the Nazis. They are demonic reprobates. The UN is anti-Semitic. We live in an evil, fallen world. The most important thing is to prevent a second Holocaust.

  • cantonst

    I have absolutely no sympathy for the Palestinians or Muslims in general or their corrupt ‘religion’. They have made their bed… They are the ‘dogs’ not the Israelis. Were it not for oil, they would be unknown and unheard of…

    • wildjew

      Someone wrote in this piece, Palestinian casualties are a tragedy. I’m not sure who wrote it.

  • Josh

    I hear a lot of things about what humans supposedly are inherently. For instance, devout religious people often say that humans are inherent sinners. A lot of folks wrapped up in some blend of philosophical principles might point to humans and malign the species as inherently flawed beyond comprehension and redemption. Others believe people are inherently good, while others believe they’re inherently evil.

    Judging by the historic and widespread wimpiness of the world at large, I think people are inherently cowards.

    I don’t somehow lift myself about this, nor my nation. I just think we’re really self-interested to the point most of us are far more comfortable being mice and hiding than being lions and asserting dominance.

    There always seems to be more slaves than slave masters, yet revolts are the exception. There always seems to be more countries not committing atrocities against humanity than countries that are, yet only a few ever manage to stick their noses in to right wrongs. The proverbial a-hole in your random workplace environment can run roughshod over 30 people daily and nobody really bothers to stand up. We lie to ourselves and pretend that turning the other cheek is somehow noble at times, when it’s just another excuse to submit to someone else’s will.

    Personally, I don’t let the news affect me in terms of how I view the Israel situation. A bunch of cowards who fear speaking out against Muslims aren’t worth my time listening to. If these people in media and at the UN had their way, Israel would cease to exist and they could go back to ignoring Muslims wholesale, radical Islam included, in desperate hope that nobody notices them and starts firing stuff in their general vicinity.

    Typical inference I make regarding random UN and media stooge: “Oh, Mr. Muslim, please don’t target me and my country. We are on your side. Those Jews are the bad ones. Please. accept these sanctions and stories as a token of our loyalty. Just don’t hurt us!”

    • Drew Page

      “Just don’t hurt us”? B.S. Millions for defense, but not one red cent for tribute.

      • Josh

        At least you seem to know what you’re talking about. I’ll need some further context.

        • Josh

          I suppose I shoulda just said, “Huh?”

  • Buzzeroo

    Turkey’s chief turkey is also a world class bigoted shmuck. The turkeys at the UN are little less….but still way way up there in shmuckdom, They all are nothing but a bunch of filthy stupid slobs who, collectively, aren’t worth the powder that it would take to blow them all to hell. Israel, with bombs raining down on them and their depraved dung beetles groveling around in underground tunnels that they have dug in order to invade should take this golden opportunity to eradicate as many of them as possible and give the UN a half peace sign while they are doing it.

  • One Man’s Opinion

    Lots of ideas of where to move the U.N. My vote is for South Pole, Antarctica, where they would have to live in barracks. And, they can make room for the US Congress and Supreme Court, as well. Maybe then they would have to focus on their jobs.

  • Marvin

    Israel can’t win the propoganda war, so they might as well go ahead and get the job done right. The hell with all these hypocrites, and to hell with Hamas and their suppliers.

  • savage24

    Anti-Semitism is not only on the rise in the United Nations, it is flooding Europe and our country. It lives in the minds of small minded people consumed with hatred. These are the people that Marx called the “Useful Idiots”, they have a ring in their noses and can be lead and manipulated by those with no moral considerations of Life, Liberty. and the Pursuit of Happiness. Fanatical fools on an evil mission.

    • Shane

      The Left in Europe and North America has taken the side of the Muslims against Israel. Anti-Semitism is so bad in France that many are leaving for Israel during this time of war. The gutless French leaders will not protect their Jews against the Muslim savages. I got news for you Frenchies; after they get rid of the Jews, the Muslims will be coming for you.

      • garbo77

        You are correct. Just check the history of Muslim infiltration into countries and what happens to those countries!

      • Rahillla

        Muslims and Jews have been living in peace for years don’t try to say that they can’t as if its your choice. Everyone is capable of making the right decision, what is happening is to do with the take over of a people’s country. Palestine was a peaceful nation till they were invaded by the Zionist (not the real Jews) they (the Muslims and Jews) had all the oportunity in the world to have a peaceful relationship till the Zionists destroyed all peace in that region. Religion isn’t the issue otherwise you wouldn’t see people of all faiths protesting agains the Israeli terrorism in Gaza and West Bank, it is the evil inclination of the following of Zionism which is problem, and that so many of its follows toil to cover up, but its so blatant, its only a matter of time till the peaceful people rise up against it and its coming, their days are numbered.

        • Homer

          NO they were NOT.
          Jews had always been outlasted, been treated as 2nd or 4rd class people by ruling Muslims. In 1948, after Israel’s declaration of independence, more then 700,000 Jews were deported from their long time Arab countries, and all their possession confiscated. While the world is obsessed with Arabs who fled Israel in 1948, Israel had solved Jews refugees problem by calling the New Comers (Olim).

          The real problem is the Arabs unwilling to accept a Jewish state in Israel

        • wally12

          Wake up and just read the charter of Hamas. It states that all Jews must be killed. That is their primary goal and the goal of all the radical Islams to eliminate all Jews and all Christians. In Iraq recently, the radical terrorists and many of the religious leaders issued an ultimatum to Christians. It stated pay tribute, convert to Islam or be killed. Does that sound like a peaceful religious group to you? It doesn’t to most of the civilized world. The Palestinians and Hamas supported by Iran begin sending rockets into Israel. Then Israel counters these attacks by actions of their own. It is always the Palestinians who state the conflict.. The prime minister of Israel stated it correctly. He said that the Israelis use their rockets and military to protect its people while Hamas and the radicals use the women and children to protect their rockets and military. Hamas and the radicals are the most cowardly people the world has ever known. It is too sad that many countries other than a few realize or believe that fact.

      • equinox1

        That is exactly right. Think about it. If the “International communitys” prinipal is that a sovereign nation, faced with a neighbor who has commited itself to the sovereign’s destruction and the erradication of its people and is sending rockets on the sovereign’s cities and innocent civilian population every day, does not have the right to remove the threat and stop the assault on its population if too many civilians (many of whcih are not “innocent”) of the aggressor are killed as collateral damage (not targeted), then this prinicvple will assure the destruction of the sovereign and insure victory to the aggressor. No country in the world would abide by that priicpal if it were their contry that was being attacted, so what gives? What gives is that the reaction of the West is based upon deep, irrational anti Jewish animus combined with the preposterous and hopelessly naive belief that if they support the terrorists against the Jews, the Terrorists will stop there and they will be safe. while I understand that the Left often elevates hope over experience, this is like the Platonic Form of doing so as throught the history of the world, in such situations, expereice has always trumped hope. How abut this deal in response to the UN’s call for Israel to stop: OK, we will stop and trust your beleif that this will end the attacks, but we are aiming our ICBMs at Paris, London, Madrid, Rome and Berlin. If you are wrong and we get hit, you get hit. How’s that? We are just asking you to take the risk wot your civilians that you are asking us to take. I expect you all know what the answer would be. NO, cause you are Jews and Jews do not have the same rights as the rest of the world, by virte of the fact that contributions to Humanity and human progress made by the Jews dwarfs that of the rest of the world combined and for this they desreve to be exterminated. This is basically the position of the International community and the mass media. So, I would amend the principle of “Never Again” to “If it Happens Again, our doomsday device is going to assure that we take the rest of thge world with us.,So, your strategy of ridding the world of Jews will result in ridding the world of you and yours as well”.
        So bring it on! Frankly, I ascribe to the bulldozer atrategy. Simply send in the4 tanks and the bull dozers and flatten a certain sector. If they do not stop, flatten another. They will either stop, or Gaza will resemble the Moon. If the UN wants a more ‘humane” alternative, then I suggest thast Israel invades and actualy occupies Gaza again, institutes marshal law and rules with an iron fist. This will stop the rockets. The other alternatice is to evacuate Israel and leave it for the savages.
        The idea that there can be a 2 state solution is fools gold asa the Palastinians have indoctrinated 3 generations to beleive that Jews are decdended from apes and pigs and it is their religious duty to destroy the Jewish people.. That way, they can get back their dignity and be able stand proud of their contributions to humankind (mathmatics, dates, camels, oil and terror) and have no Jews around to compete with when the UN give the award for the culture that has most benefited mankind.

  • Tim ned

    Quote from Aljazeera America ” One tunnel discovered by Israel last year was 66 Feet deep and 1.5 miles long. The project is estimated to have cost $10 million and used 800 tons of concrete.”

    So let’s put this in perspective. Israel builds an Iron Dome. Builds bomb rooms in every apartment and home. Hamas puts millions into tunnels but no bomb shelters for their civilian population.

    Interesting!

  • Patrick Murphy

    Would the media be happier if Hamas rockets were more successful than bottle-rockets and were killing equal amounts of Israeli citizens? No, they’d probably condemn Israel for allowing the deaths of their own civilians!

    • garbo77

      I wouldn’t surprise me if God allowed no Israelite to be killed or injured. They are His chosen people and will win. It is just a matter of time until God puts a stop to it all. Was not the 1948 victory, by Israel, a miracle from God Himself? Speaking of God’s people, Israel, in Genesis 12:3, in God’s Holy word, we read: “I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you (Abram) all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’ I believe the reason that so many people have hated the Jewish people,and still hate them, is because the devil hates them and wants to see them percecuted, because they are God’s chosen people and the devil’s demons are in so many people causing that hate. Ephesians 6:12 (Paraphrasing) We don’t battle against the person, but the demonic force that controls them. That is no excuse, because we are responsible for coming to Jesus (Romans 10:9-10) and commanding all evil spirits to leave us (James 4:7 – - “Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he shall flee from you!”)

    • Homer

      I think they’d be happier, but I don’t want to proof my point.

  • justintime

    Will someone please tell me what purpose the UN serves. It’s impotent when it comes to solving crisis around the world. Where has the UN been in Iraq? Where has the UN been in Ukraine? Where has the UN been in Syria? Where? Nowhere, that’s where. The UN has 5 permanent members of the Security Council. Are there only 5 countries in the world? And guess who is the biggest financial supporter of the UN. You guessed it, the stupid United States. Not to mention the United States also throws American taxpayer dollars at Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the PLO. All sponsors of terrorism. And what do these nations do, they’re laughing at us. The Palestinian people elect a known terrorist organization as their government and then they wonder why all this is happening. And the fool in the White House, the poorest excuse for a man that I’ve ever seen, is off to Hollywood while the world is all ablaze.

    • garbo77

      Our President might not be as foolish as he appears. Has he not stated that he is Muslim?

      • brent kaufman

        Um… No he hasn’t.

        • Jeff

          Raised Muslim in a foreign country, ate dog. Said so in one of his best selling autobiographies…

          • brent kaufman

            Exactly. He never said he was a Muslim. You are inferring it from other things he said. Maybe he is and maybe he isn’t. But he never said he was. And Muslims don’t eat dog meat. It is forbidden in Islamic law, unless one will starve if they don’t eat it.

          • Jeff

            If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it must be a __________. Fill in the blank with a No. 2 pencil.

          • ARJ127

            If you look like a birther, talk like a birther and quack like a birther, does that mean you are?

          • Jeff

            Since I don’t look, talk or quack “birther,” The answer is: No. Unlike you, I am willing to accept relevant information pertaining to the subject. Using your logic from another post, you would not be willing to accept the same conclusion regarding Mr. O’s birth certificate. You would be the “birther.”

          • brent kaufman

            Good. At least you agree that you were wrong and that Obama, despite his fondness for Muslims, never said he was one. Doesn’t telling the truth matter to you much?

          • Jeff

            Guess he was just pretending when he attended a Muslim school. Those Muslims are very liberal about who they let in, aren’t they? Why, it’s just like attending P.S. 99 in any American city.

          • Bob Hadley

            Pres. Obama lived in Indonesia for about 3 years when he was a young child. Where I live, people from families of all religious backgrounds – Buddhist, Protestant, etc. – attend Catholic schools. They do so because their parents don’t like the public schools and can’t afford (or their kids can’t qualify for) the pricier schools – like Punahou, which was founded as a Protestant school..
            For the most part, Pres. Obama attended Punahou school in Honolulu.

          • Jeff

            And you equate Catholic schools in America with Muslim schools in Indonesia? Don’t think it works that way…

          • Jeff

            Further, I’ve never seen any evidence that Muslims tolerate any other religion or beliefs within their institutions. Therefore, any student in a Muslim school will have had to participate in their studies and practices. Very influential in a young person’s formative years.

          • Bob Hadley

            Have you seen evidence that Muslim schools in Indonesia require their students to profess adherence to Islam? Let’s say for the sake of argument, that Pres. Obama attended a Muslim school when as a very young child and that the school required all students to study Islam, so what???????????????????????
            Does that support your view that Pres. Obama is a Muslim or that he professes to be a Muslim? That’s absurd.
            Admit it. You’re just eager to pin a “Muslim” label on Pres. Obama.
            Remember, Obama was in Indonesia for about 3 years when he was very young. Going to a Muslim school during this time, even if he was required to study Islam during this period, is NOT evidence that he’s now a Muslim.
            You’re scraping the bottom of the barrel and demeaning yourself in the process.

          • Jeff

            Your argument is specious, my friend.

            You are correct in that Mr. O does not now claim to be Muslim. He claims to be Christian. However, the actions/inactions of his administration, which he heads and reflects his values, has shown a pro Muslim/Islamist bias; an argument I know you will reject because you feel the need to protect your belief in him.

            “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer,”
            Mr. O has said. I’m surprised that it isn’t “Hail to the Chief.” It certainly isn’t “America the Beautiful,” “God Bless America” or the “Star Spangled Banner.”

          • Bob Hadley

            “You are correct in that Mr. O does not now claim to be Muslim.”

            Our President has never claimed to be a Muslim, to my knowledge.

            You’re changing your position. First you said that our President is an avowed Muslim, now you’re imply saying he’s sympathetic to Muslim countries. Being sympathetic to Muslim countries is not evidence that someone is an avowed Muslim any more than being Pro-Israel is evidence of being Jewish.

            “an argument I know you will reject because you feel the need to protect your belief in him.”
            You obviously are supremely ignorant of where I’m coming from. I was pointing out how baseless your claim is that our President is an avowed Muslim.
            Strongly opposing our President’s policies is one thing. But looking for ways to demonize him is poisonous, self-destructive and just stupid.
            I think that you may be afflicted by the belief that no one can think differently from you and also be an intelligent, well-informed, loyal, hardworking and decent American.

          • Bob Hadley

            You also seem afflicted by the orientation that either you hate President Obama or you adore him.

          • Jeff

            Hate? Adore? No, I don’t agree with most of his policies… probably 90%. But I don’t hate him. I want a President who I believe acts 100% in the best interests of the United States of America, which I also believe is the most exceptional country that the world has ever seen.

          • Bob Hadley

            Saying you want a president who you believe acts 100% in the best interests of this country is essentially saying that you want a president who you agree with.100% of the time. That’s what we all want.
            But there are vastly differing views of what’s in the best interests of this country. Pres. Obama thinks his policies are in the best interests of the country. Tea Parties think there views reflect what is in the best interests of this country. The same is true for Sen. McCain and V.P. Cheney.
            It’s interesting that you frame the issue like that.

          • Jeff

            I doubt I will ever agree with anyone 100% of the time, much less with a political figure. But hoping for actions in the best interest of the country is altogether different. Whether foreign policy or domestic, as a whole, I believe that Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Reagan, Clinton and the Bushes all acted in America’s best self interests more so than Mr. Obama and his administration. And I believe time will more than prove that.

          • Bob Hadley

            Whether foreign policy or domestic, as a whole, I believe that Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Reagan, Clinton and the Bushes all acted in America’s best self interests more so than Mr. Obama and his administration. And I believe time will more than prove that.”
            OK, let’s have a reasonable, respective exchange about what’s in our best interest instead of talking about Pres. Obama eating dog and attending a Muslim school when he was 7 years-old.

            In invading Iraq President G W Bush didn’t act in America’s best interest, and time has already proved that. I have no doubt that, at the time, Pres. Bush thought invading Iraq WAS in America’s best interest.

            My point was that all presidents think they are acting in America’s best interest. Is Pres. Obama acting in America’s best interest? He thinks so. Millions of Americans also think so. Millions of Americans do not think so, however. Let’s have a dialogue about what’s in our best interest without getting personal about Pres. Obama or anyone else.
            BTW, I was disgusted when liberals made fun of Pres. G W Bush, calling him an idiot. That’s one reason some liberals think I’m conservative. I think’s he’s far from an idiot, although I do think he was in way over his head in terms of foreign policy – not because of lack of intelligence but because he was not nearly as knowledgeable or experienced in that area as others in his inner circle.

          • Jeff

            There are failings by all Presidents, but on the whole, Obama’s policies and actions have been more detrimental to our country, regardless of intentions. Long ago, someone said the road to perdition is paved with good intentions… and a more recent wag asked “Where are we going and why are we in this hand basket?”

          • Bob Hadley

            OK, now we’re getting somewhere.
            Now, what policies and actions of Pres. Obama have been detrimental to our country and why? Please be specific. I know you think his policies favor Muslim countries, weaken the economy, yadayadayada But how have they been detrimental to our country and what should he have done?
            I’ve heard a lot of conservatives chastise Pres. Obama’s foreign policy, but when they’re pressed to say what he should do, they say he should do everything he’s doing but talk more like John Wayneor, as Lindsay Graham put it, “He didn’t call Putin the SOB that he is.”

            Let’s have a well-reasoned dialogue on real issues.

          • Bob Hadley

            A point of information. You remember when Pres. Obama said at the national Democratic convention in 2004 that only in America could he have gotten to where he was? I think he agrees with American exceptionalism, although he may see it a little differently from you.

          • Jeff

            You said: “You’re changing your position. First you said that our President is an avowed Muslim, now you’re imply saying he’s sympathetic to Muslim countries.”

            Actually, it’s the other way around… If you read carefully, I never said that he is an “avowed” Muslim; I implied that he may be Muslim or hold their values, based on his life experiences as expressed in his writings and statements. I am not implying that he’s sympathetic to Muslim countries: I am saying exactly that, based on his actions, including the recent six month extension to Iran that they will use to further develop their nuclear program, despite their promises.

            And, no, I don’t know “where you’re coming from” other than your comments here. But your strong defense of Mr. O leads me to infer that you support him and his policies.

            You concluded, “I think that you may be afflicted by the belief that no one can think differently from you and also be an intelligent, well-informed, loyal, hardworking and decent American.” I think you hit the send button too soon, before reading your comment. I’m sorry that you feel that way, because that is very inaccurate. I have no doubt that you have all of those positive
            attributes and disagree with me. But, we can challenge each other in reasonable debate, can’t we?

          • Bob Hadley

            “Raised Muslim in a foreign country, ate dog. Said so in one of his best selling autobiographies…”

            “If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it must be a __________. Fill in the blank with a No. 2 pencil.”

            “Guess he was just pretending when he attended a Muslim school.”

            “You are correct in that Mr. O does not now claim to be Muslim.”
            The above quotes are partly why I thought you were saying he was a Muslim. Also, the way you responded to other posts.
            But millions of Americans all across this county, most of whom have never been to a Muslim country or studied Islam, agree with most or all of his mid-east policies. Do they have a strong Pro-Islam bias or do they simply disagree with you on what’s in the best interests of this country?
            Yes, let’s have a reasonable debate about reasonable issues. Let’s debate policy. Let’s debate what is in the nation’s best interest. This squabble about whether Pres. Obama is a Muslim or has a pro-Muslim bias is largely petty.

          • Jeff

            You left out one of my quoted statements, the one by Mr. Obama himself, “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer.” It would seem odd to be a statement by anyone other than a Muslim. “The sweetest sound I know…” What should a person infer from that?

          • Bob Hadley

            A person should infer that he likes the call to prayer that he heard as a child. To use that to make a case that Pres. Obama is a Muslim or is under the influence of Islam is absurd. I had a Buddhist girlfriend once. I attended several of her church services. I really enjoyed the music and the camaraderie there. Everyone was incredibly nice and gracious. I don’t give it a superlative, however.
            Does that affect my policy views when Buddhists are involved? Anyone who thinks that is a fool.

          • Jeff

            Non sequitur. You will believe what you believe. You also must believe “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period.” Families will save an average of $2,500 on health care. Shovel ready jobs. “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.” etc., etc. Too many to mention here. You will believe what you believe.

          • Bob Hadley

            Yes, your reply was a text book example of a non-sequitor. What is your point?

          • loupgarous

            Barack Obama destroyed our once solid military alliance with Egypt to try and impose the murderous Muslim Brotherhood on that country. Still another count on which Obama should be impeached, then tried afterward for treason in time of war.

          • Bob Hadley

            Catholic schools in Hawaii are open non-Catholics of any persuasion, assuming they follow the rules and regs of the school.
            Is this true of Muslim schools in Indonesia? While it’s entirely possible, neither of us knows for sure.

    • Rahilla

      Those countries are only terrorist bcoz u Belive everything u hear, wake up man! Why would USA invest in them if they were a threat? The answer is so to keep ppl like u on side, scared in ur boots, never questioning the other side of the story. U my good man are being used and u r basically a zombi to the USA. Learn to think for urself.

      I respect what you have said the USA president shouldn’t being in Hollywood getting his nails done or whatever it is that he does, rightly so, in my dreams and wildest wishes, he should be participating in a move for peace for both Palestine and the stupid state of isreal (I beg ur pardon, as I find it hard to condone murderers, but it’s the only resolution that will maintain peace)

      • EddieD_Boston

        Arabs are ignorant and grotesque people who act like animals

        • Bob Hadley

          Either your exposure to Arabs is extremely narrow or you’re basing your sweeping generalization on your negative emotions.

          • EddieD_Boston

            Either that or I’ve watched the news for 54 years and figured it out. Sorry Bob, savage is what savage does. They set off car bombs at weddings and stone 12 y/o girls to death. Is it ALL of them. No. But all Germans were members of the Nazi party.

          • Bob Hadley

            You’ve watched the news ever since you were born? :)
            I guess you’d have no problem if, 15 years ago, someone raised in England were to say that Irish are ignorant and grotesque people who act like animals, right???? Then you’d nod in approval, when he was called on his sweeping generalization, he clarified, “Well, not ALL Irish are ignorant and grotesque people who act like animals.”
            Surely you’ve heard “if it bleeds, it leads.” This is especially true now that the “news” is a profit-seeking enterprise.. Basing your generalization on watching the news is probably a combination of narrow exposure and emotionalism.

          • EddieD_Boston

            It’d be a good point Bob but the Irish don’t do honor killings. I read once that a 12 y/o girl was raped by her 38 y/o uncle and the sentenced her to 100 lashes. She died after 80.

          • Bob Hadley

            I’ve known a lot of Arabs over the years. I can’t remember one who was not a decent, hard-working, law abiding person.
            Yes, there have many, many, many so-called honor killings by Arabs. It’s beyond ugly. But why impute that behavior to the billion + Arabs, or Arabs generally.
            Going back to the Irish analogy, do you impute to all Irish (or Irish generally) the mayhem and carnage of innocent men, women and children caused by certain Irish? If not, why not given your disposition towards Arabs?

      • Tim Ned

        Who are you saying are the murderers? Palestine, Israel, or both?

  • CraigOlsen

    The U.N. eventually will field the human leader who will make the ultimate attempt to destroy Israel – the Antichrist. But it will fail. Christ will return at that time to establish His kingdom.

    • Rahilla

      Would you dip in the pool with me about one thing?
      Everyone is behaving like antichrist come’on where is humanity, we need to make efforts to restrain the evil within ourselves, the people of the world need to calm down, stop killing, stop revenging, this is not human nature and I will not Belive that it is, all down to listening to satan.

      • CraigOlsen

        I agree. There is a heap of anti-Christian activity going on, even in the name of Christ. He asks us to come out of the apostasy and stop trusting men and turn to Him. But men are fooled and lazy.

      • brent kaufman

        War has been a part of humanity since human beings have existed, thus it is human nature to make war. It may not be individual human nature but it is the nature of human group behavior. Wishful thinking doesn’t make nature go away.

  • Russ Perrine

    The UN in 1948 created the partition of Palestine. 66 years later the flaws in this agreement still haunt the world as if it were created last week. It is worth considering bringing the general assembly together to re-do this agreement in order to address all sides. Perhaps then the United Kingdom will not abstain on the final vote…as they did when it came to the floor all those years ago.

    • brent kaufman

      Please. The UN cannot unilaterally take a country away from an established nation and divide it up for other nations. It may try, though, in some unlawful way. The Palestinians were given land for their country and they lost what they had in their possession, fair and square.

  • Richard Schwartz

    Several thoughts, but right-on about the UN. It is a toothless organization on the welfare rolls of the US.
    Here’s a math problem. If the US supplies 22% of the UN “regular” “budget, and the UN budget is about $6 billion, what is the “actual” UN budget if the US sends over $10 billion to the UN?
    There is another glaring reason why the arabs will always be the underdog — Israel is a prosperous nation, contributing greatly to science, industry and the arts, while arab countries, whether rich from the West’s oil income or living from hand to mouth in mud huts, contribute nothing. But they all teach hate the infidels.
    Any arab country, making peace with Israel, and I hope Egypt might be the first, can partner with Israel to build a fruitful economy, and an educated and productive citizenry.

  • Barancy Peloma

    i would love to see the u.n. kicked out of here.

    • Tim ned

      We would have to throw them out. Ronald Reagan during his presidency suggested they take up residence someplace else. They didn’t take him up on his offer.

      • loupgarous

        Reagan also cut US funding to the UN agencies which were most anti-American in their rhetoric (UNESCO and a few others). It’s time to apply that valuable and effective corrective measure again.

  • MaleMatters

    Looks as though Hamas has overplayed its hand. See the commentary by the liberal Washington Post editorial board:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-us-should-push-for-the-disarming-of-hamas-in-gaza-israel-cease-fire/2014/07/23/7c2d1d9e-1284-11e4-8936-26932bcfd6ed_story.html

    • loupgarous

      The WaPo, unfortunately, is schizoid, to say the least, in its political pronouncements. It’s still blaming the Republicans in the House for Harry Reid’s and Chuck Schumer’s killing budget bills as soon as they come into the Senate from the House or bottling them up, while praising the Democrats with faint damns for their part in the budget impasse.

  • gbandy

    The UN is just a joke. The US contributes hundreds of millions and still the UN is like a neutered cat as far as getting anything done or any Nation is the World even caring what they have to say. Just look Iran WILL have a nuke under the eyes of the UN along with Obama and Kerry. We will be the ones paying the price for Iran and its coming Nuke. Stop spending the money on the UN and use those funds to strengthen our Military sooner than later we will need a strong military.

    • garbo77

      Correct

    • loupgarous

      John Kerry, unfortunately, has been carrying Russian water for so long, it’s a reflex with him.

  • One Man’s Opinion

    Obama returned the bust of Churchill to Great Britain. Perhaps his next move is to give his Nobel Peace Prize to Hamas.

  • Jarob54

    Such is the pretzel logic of the UN. Hamas a terrosit organization that promotes the killing of Jews and the extermination of Israel is the “victim”- Man that’s rich, and convoluted to say the least.
    But here are the facts that count, Hamas started this and Israel will finish this.
    And reasonable people will say that Israel can and will defend it’s land and it’s people. Get the UN out of the US, and get the US out of the UN.

    • garbo77

      Amen (so be it)

  • dantheman777

    Amen to all you had to say Mark W. It’s high time we sent them packing!

  • Mark W.

    For years, I’d see billboards along the I-5 freeway: “Get the US out of the UN!” As a young man who believed that bringing nations together to discuss their differences and common goals as a way to world peace, the signs made me groan. After all, what’s bad about an organization that has little kids coming around at Halloween trick-or-treating for UNICEF? It seemed as harmless as girls selling Girl Scout Cookies.
    .
    But, as years have passed, it is obvious to me that the foxes have succeeded in taking over the U.N. hen house and there’s no one willing (or able) to force them out, let alone control them. It is long overdue for the once grand experiment to be declared a failure. It is time to say: No more US taxpayer money paying for an institution that holds us and our allies in contempt; in fact, far fewer US dollars should be spent on all sorts of foreign aid.
    .
    The United States should cut off funding, withdraw from the UN, and force them all to leave… preferably to a small, unpleasant island in the middle of an ocean.
    .
    Should. But it’s just wishful thinking and will never happen. Anyway, we can dream, can’t we?

    • garbo77

      I encourage you and everyone to not consider our dreams a waste. Mark 11:22-24, in God’s Holy word, tells us to speak what we want, believe and not doubt and we can have what we say. (1John 5:14 – - if it’s God’s will). God wants us to speak and declare aloud what we want, in the name of Jesus (Colossians 3:17). Jesus took care of everything when He died on the cross and was resurrected. He sent Holy Spirit to give us the power (Acts 2:4) after receiving Jesus as our Savior (Romans 10:9-10). Now, He is waiting for someone to speak it, so that He will function as He as chosen to function, and cause it to happen in His time. Think about it – - When we pray, we say Amen at the end of the prayer. Amen means “so be it.” We have just stated what we have prayed to become a reality!

  • Steve Griffin

    Let’s move the UN headquarters to a residential neighborhood in Ashkelon and see what happens.

    • Brian Stover

      YES,
      A great idea whose time has come.

    • loupgarous

      I’d be inclined to build a massive floating community inside a Pacific atoll for the UN. Kwajalein Atoll would serve admirably, as we could still test-fire ICBMs into the lagoon there while the UN General Assembly was in plenary session and do the world an immense favor

  • SkyCitizen

    This concept of the Palestinian Israeli conflict being disproportionate has been a hallmark of the press for as long as I can remember. The liberal logic still eludes me. The liberal press just can’t resist putting it’s thumb on the scale of reportage and write or broadcast an impression of the situation as they would like it to be and not what it is.

    Do I feel any sympathy for Palestinians? Sure, they are caught between the unbending tenets of Islam and the resolve of Israel to simply exist, and nobody has money for a bus ticket out of town.

  • Drew Page

    There have been times where I disagreed with you Bernie, but not this time and certainly not on this issue. If ever there was an underdog, Israel is it. It struggles to survive in an area surrounded by those who see the annihilation of Israel as their raison d’ etre. Golda Meir said it best, “there will be peace when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate the Israelis”, which apparently means never. What would be the reaction of those condemning Israel if the Palestinians were raining rockets down on their homes and families on a daily basis? What would there reaction be if it were their children that were being kidnapped and murdered? What would be their reaction if their public places were routinely attacked by suicide bombers?

    Israel’s critics call for negotiations with Palestine. How does one ‘negotiate’ with people dedicated to murdering you and your families, who learn this hatred from the time they are able to walk? How do you reach a people who teach children that there is honor and a special place in heaven for those who kill themselves in an attempt to kill others of a different faith and that any means justifies the end goal? Do Israel’s critics think that the Israelis should compromise with the Palestinians by agreeing to kill themselves, thereby saving the Palestinians the trouble? Do they believe that everybody but Israelis have a right to self-defense, or that strongly worded condemnations of repeated atrocities are enough?

    I can understand President Obama’s pro-Muslim stance. What I can’t understand is why so many Jewish Americans continue to support the President and his party with their votes and their contributions in the face of his obvious disdain for Israel.

    • loupgarous

      It’s the same sort of self-hatred that drove the mainline Protestant denominations to support the rabidly left-wing World Council of Churches until both the WCC and the former mainline churches here faded into irrelevance.

  • David Tower

    If you’re asking where the UN should go; they can ‘Go To Hell’!

    • SkyCitizen

      A destination I wholeheartedly concur with.

    • loupgarous

      Or down the toilet with the rest of the brown stains.

  • Gloria

    The U.N. is and always has been a paper tiger. The real estate it occupies would better serve the world as a park or a condo building. Just read in the newspaper that they passed a ‘resolution condemning the bombing of the Malaysian passenger plane’. Wow, whoop de doo. A resolution condemning it! And this is news.

  • oriole

    It should move into Oblivion.

    • loupgarous

      It’s DONE that. Most UN time-servers have been oblivious to the real world as long as they’ve worked there. Suddenly, nerve gas is all over Syria when David Kay and his UN task force couldn’t find it next door in Iraq (despite the fact that of the eight tons of nerve agent precursors purchased by Iraq, only two tons’ worth of nerve agent was accounted for). I suspect that under Kofi Annan (recipient of Oil for Food vouchers along with his son), Mr. Kay couldn’t see the nerve agents because his job was mainly not finding them.

      • oriole

        Next move should be out of NY. Useless waste of parking, money, police protection, and hot air.

  • lark2

    I am afraid that Israel’s situation in the world is purely Anti-Semitism. It exists even among young American Jews. I have seen it and I have heard it. I have never understood the hatred of Jews and I still don’t. The nightmare begins again. AMERICANS … and the rest of the western world have very short memories. Young Jews just don’t know anything about their own history and people are interested only in their own “comforts”. This will not end well and I see the destruction of the State of Israel on the horizon…. followed by a period of great violence against the United States by Islamic terrorist groups. I blame OBAMA! There is never a good time to put a man like this in the WH. He is truly a “Manchurian Candidate”. I never thought this could be possible but, it is upon us. Stop wondering … I am Hispanic and I feel a very deep sadness.

    • Kernighan

      There still is hope. When I was young, a now-discredited politician theorized that the majority of people do not have a voice, and normally stay out of politics. He called this group “The Silent Majority”. I don’t know if that’s true, but I do believe there are huge numbers of people who are reasonable, but hate getting involved in politics, and will only do it, once it becomes impossible to live without defending their own safety, and their families safety. These people could be called moderate or conservative, but are better described as practical, and humanistic (supportive of their fellow man and society).

      I believe all sorts of people can fall into this type. My hope is that eventually this group rises up and overturns these statist types. This sort of thing has happened before. [see the election of Harding after the debacle of Woodrow Wilson]

      • loupgarous

        Agreed. The American people, unfortunately, will need a debacle a thousand times worse than Carter’s national “malaise” and “lowered expectations” before it rejects Obama and all of his crooked ethos. This time, we ought to be merciless in striking liberalism down and taking money away from the media moguls who imposed it on us.

        The Internet affords us so many alternatives to big network television, and I’ve managed to get almost entirely weaned from what Harlan Ellison called “the Glass Teat.” If my television broke today, I’d barely miss it. I don’t use if for news, and hardly ever for entertainment – mainly background noise. And I change the channel lustily when David Letterman or Jay Leno’s understudy appear on the screen. They can prattle left-wing lies all they want – just not on MY television.

    • garbo77

      Just study the Bible and, if you have not, receive Jesus as your Savior (Romans 10:9-10). Those of us that receive Jesus as our Savior and Israel wins. It’s all in our Bible. Pray for the Jews to come to Jesus soon! Many have already. We call them, Messianic Jews.

      • lark2

        I am a Christian. … I believe in the Bible … and Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Humans number many hundreds of millions and there are all kinds. Please know that on this earth God’s work must truly be our own. We have our hands full.

        • garbo77

          Amen! We must always remember: “We can do all things through Jesus who gives us the strength!” God Bless you, my Brother!

  • ARJ127

    Judging from the Israeli shelling of a UN school in Gaza, I’d say that the UN is in the Israeli crosshairs. Goldberg assumes that the bulk of the UN condemnation will be directed at the Israelis. I doubt it. The UN is also looking at the allegations that Hamas is using human shields to protect their launchers from attack. That’s a serious war crime.

    Essentially, Goldberg assumes that ANY criticism of Israel is unfounded. That’s garbage. They are as bad as Hamas in their own way. The ultra-nationalists, the settlers and the other extremists who comprise much of Netanyahu’s government are just as bad. There’ll be no peace while the extremists and bigots on both sides hold power.

    • Tim Ned

      I disagree. There is a vast difference between the Netanyahu government and Hamas. Hamas’s existence is based upon the single objective of destroying the state of Israel and the removal of every Jew with what ever means necessary. If the power balance was on the side of Hamas, every reasonable person who has a base understanding of this conflict would have to agree that their objective would have been accomplished a long time ago. I was in this region in the 90′s when the check points were being removed and you could actually travel. Bill Clinton, after much effort on his part to negotiate peace, found that Arafat made the decision to be a terrorist, not a politician. Clinton’s words. I believe that there are Palestinians who accept the existence of Israel. Israel has been clear they accept the existence of a Palestinian state. But Hamas does not. I believe that in Gaza, and in Jordan, there are Palestinians who agree with Hamas, and many that don’t. But until Hamas is either destroyed, abandoned, etc., there is no chance of peace.

      • brent kaufman

        Hamas members are Palestinians. Palestinians voted Hamas into power as THEIR leadership, in Gaza. What one chooses to imagine the Palestinians want or accept, is one’s own choice of living in Oz. They voted Hamas to be their leaders, knowing full well that they are an terrorist organization dedicated to the genocide of Israel. That means, in simple terms for simple people, the Palestinian people chose to give their power to eliminating the population and state of Israel.

        • loupgarous

          HAMAS was voted in by an electoral process just as clean as ACORN’s. Its relationship to the actual will of the people is sketchy at best.

          • brent kaufman

            That is PR spin coming out of Gaza. It’s false. The Palestinians in Gaza, kicked out the Fatah administration of the Palestinian Authority in Gaza and elected, by legal election, Hamas, in their place.
            Equating them with ACORN is either a downright lie or simply lacking knowledge of the subject.

          • loupgarous

            You’d know more about outright lies than most of us here.

          • brent kaufman

            If you can share an example of what makes you say that about me, it would be helpful. But I wasn’t meaning to say that you were lying. I don’t have any reason to think that, especially in light of other supportive statements you’ve made here. However, it seems that you may have been repeating something that you heard from sources that were, in fact, lying, in order to spin the image of the Palestinians who knew very well that they were electing a terrorist organization, with a history of violent attacks on civilian populations, as their leaders in Gaza, into an innocent victimized majority that is held hostage by Hamas, being Hamas.

          • loupgarous

            I have no issue with your original statement – but the validity of the vote to which you refer is and always has been suspect. Actually, it’s granting undeserved respect for efficiency to refer to ACORN and Hamas in the same breath. In Gaza and the West Bank, anyone foolish enough to publicly organize against Hamas would find himself and his family the subject of some violent attention by death squads.

          • brent kaufman

            I’m not sure how you saw my statement as giving respect to ACORN, or even Hamas. I understand your point about Hamas voting coercion but that wasn’t the case before Hamas was in power, when Fatah was the authority, as they still are in Judea/Samaria (western bank of the Jordan River). I feel that it is taking all responsibility away from the people that live there. There comes a point when you have to take the expression of the people, whether through voting or whatever, at face value and have no business getting into their heads and deciding what they REALLY think. If you can you back up your statement with any hard stats or other evidence it will be much easier to accept as fact.

    • morefandave

      Yeah, the UN is so concerned about Hamas using human shields that when they found Hamas rockets inside 2 UN schools, they gave them to the “local authorities” (read “Hamas”).

      • ARJ127

        You have any proof of this or is it yet another unsubstantiated allegation (like Saddam’s Weapons of Mass Destruction)?

        • Jeff

          Avail yourself of readily available news reports and you will sound less foolish.

          • ARJ127

            There’s no indication that the school they shelled housed such weapons. Furthermore, I doubt that the UN would knowingly bring refugees into buildings that would be targetted. As for sounding “foolish”, perhaps you should learn some manners and stick to the merits of the argument than cheap invective.

          • Jeff

            It must be an interesting place, that fantasyland where you live. Just think something, and it makes it so! I tried it when I was very young, but it got knocked out of me when I got to first grade.

        • loupgarous

          Right – and the Free Syrian Army was gassing people (according to that same UN, until John Kerry told them to shut up) with Lemon Pledge. No WMD there, huh?

      • ARJ127

        I’ve seen the reports. I’m not sure that they were independently verified. However, the Israelis haven’t alleged that the school they shelled, killing women and children, was used for that purpose. In fact, I don’t see the UN knowingly sheltering refugees in buildings that contained rockets, thereby making them vulnerable targets.

        The UN gave the Israelis the precise coordinates of the school. The Israelis had better explain why they shelled women and children.

        • Jeff

          Well, Inspector Clouseau, I suggest you get on a plane right away and go there and personally check it out. Based on your comments, you have either 1) made up your “mind”; 2) don’t believe any news reports that conflict with your conclusions, or 3) both 1 & 2.
          So, bu-bye! And hope no Hamas rockets hit your plane.

        • morefandave

          The buildings were already established as schools when Hamas brought in the rockets. Once they do so and in effect turn the schools into rocket launching platforms, what is Israel to do? Refrain from returning fire from the school building because it’s a school building? If so, Hamas has acquired an invulnerable base from which to launch rockets into Israel. The only alternative is to fire back. If Hamas keeps civilians in buildings targeted for attack, that is their fault, not Israel’s.

  • Michael Stern

    Very well said Bernie.

  • rs724503

    In 2006, Marvin Kalb wrote an excellent white paper on the manner in which Hezbollah, during their war with Israel used propaganda to make it seem as though Israel was the one at fault. I suggest everyone check it out because that sort of thing is repeating itself.

    http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/events/2007/2/17islamic%20world/2007islamforum_israel%20hezb%20war.pdf

  • Dennis

    Yet another in the long and continuously growing list of reasons the UN building should be imploded with dynamite, the rubble bulldozed into the rive and the ground salted over. The only ones who would be opposed are the hookers of Manhattan.

    On a more somber note; the Nazis did not commit the Holocaust in a vacuum. The enlightened Europeans willingly contributed to the death of millions. And, that strain of anti-Semitism is still very prevalent in Europe, not just also but especially among the self appointed progressives and European socialists.

    • Mark W.

      Your second paragraph is absolutely right. We have to understand history and recognize the commonality of events and attitudes then and now in order to prevent a recurrence… and this applies not only to anti-Semitism, but I also see similarities with attitudes toward our aging population.

      • loupgarous

        As with Obama bringing in a physician who is besotted with the British National Health Service’s gradual and systematic denial of life-saving medical care to the elderly… to run Medicare.

        • Mark W.

          You got it. From “Give granny a pill” Obama to the attitudes of younger generations who believe Seniors have somehow “cheated” them and have used up “their” resources, we have to be vigilant and vote in our best interest. In a world where Obama wields his pen like a monarch of the middle ages, no one is safe.

  • Ksp48

    After all, the Israelis didn’t invade Gaza until they had had enough of Hamas’ rockets fired at Israeli civilians.

    And Israel did not invade Gaza until Hamas had utterly rejected three ceasefires that Israel accepted.

  • Ted Crawford

    Not surprising, in view of the fact that the UN was fashioned after the wet-dream of the same President that brought us so many other wonderful things. Such as the 16th. & 17th. Amendments, and a reconstituted Federal Reserve!
    His swearing-in on March 4, 1913 signaled the end of our Republic and the ushered-in the period of our, rapidly deteriorating, Democracy!
    P.S: How about this idea, turn the UN Building into a temporary holding facility for all Obama’s Illegals?.

    • Kernighan

      You are referring to Woodrow Wilson. People should really read up on this man. He was a racist who sought to remove black people from civil service work, notably altering rules regarding the USPS. His favorite movie maker was D.W.Griffith and movie was “The Birth of a Nation” which portrayed the KKK as heros fighting unfairness in the post Civil War south. He also, during “The Great War” (WW I) arrested and jailed around 175,000 US Citizens (including Socialist head Eugene V. Debs) for doing nothing more than either writing or speaking out publicly against the war. As you mention he oversaw elimination of State appointment of Senators, the establishment of Income Taxation, and the creation of the Federal Reserve. Or perhaps we COULD say that his Svengali-like advisor “Colonel” House did these things. House was much like Valarie Jarrett is today. He was the unseen hand behind the power of the White House.

      The United States reacted severely to this man, and his use of “statist” principles in governance. The Congress refused to back Wilson’s beloved “League of Nations” (it was his obsession). In the later elections the GOP prevailed sending Warren Harding (who pardoned and released Debs) and later Calvin Coolidge into the White House. This backlash lasted at least a decade.

      • loupgarous

        Woodrow Wilson and Barack Obama are the bookends around the sorry ethical record of the Democratic Party in America in the 20th century and the early part of the 21st century.

    • ARJ127

      The UN came into being after WW II. That’s after Wilson’s time. Maybe, you meant Harry Truman.

      • Ted Crawford

        Perhaps you misunderstood, I said “fashioned after”, it was Wilson who first proposed the basic concept of the UN, with his “League of Nations” idiocy, the UN morphed from that ideology!

  • Johnny Deadline

    Kudos Bernie! I’ll second your motion on removing the UN from NYC to points unknown, and offer a recommendation of my own. No more funding for Palestinian groups in Gaza and the West Bank until their elected representatives recognize Israel’s right to exist. To provide annual economic support to any group that doesn’t recognize an independent country’s right to exist is asinine, illogical and contrary to what the UN supposedly represents.

    On a sardonic note, it was PJ O’Rourke who said ‘the UN wouldn’t be that bad of a place if it weren’t for all the foreigners.’

    • allen goldberg

      Ask them to leave and take up residence in Kuala Lumpur…the group of residents of the U.N. would be dramatically smaller!!!

      • Johnny Deadline

        My preference is the UN relocate in either Mosul where ISIS has persecuted and terrorized Christians or the Bermuda Triangle.

    • loupgarous

      The lagoon inside the Kwajalein Test Range would be a perfect place to hold UN General Assembly meetings. The entertainment value of watching dummy ICBMs falling on their new building would be immense.

  • rbblum

    Americans should be continually educated, informed or reminded of the many aspects in which the United Nations is not sympathetic with nor a supporter of the values and ideals of a constitutional republic.

    • rbblum

      Could also argue that the United Nations is the contemporary version of the Tower of Babel.

    • morefandave

      Good idea, but who’s going to do the educating? The Obama administration, the leftist MSM, the schools? Good luck with that!

  • Bill

    I guess that we should condemn the US for killing more Germans and Japanese than they killed Americans in World War II (although revisionists do like to do so concerning the fire bombing and the nuclear weapons), or the North for killing more Southerners in the Civil War.

    • Meat Popsicle

      Don’t you mean “The War of Northern Aggression”? :-P

      • loupgarous

        “The War Between the States” is the most factual name for that conflict. There was no contest for control of the entire American body politic – the South merely wished to secede from the Union. Therefore, no “civil war” ever existed.

        In a Union of states freely associated, the logic of freely dis-associating from that Union is clear and compelling. Lincoln didn’t emancipate the slaves until very late in the war, and then only in territory he didn’t control. Slaves in the Union remained slaves.

        While slavery is a terrible thing, Emancipation would have meant more if Lincoln had been willing to offend his slave-holding friends during his war to keep the markets of the South exclusively open to the North.

        • Meat Popsicle

          It was a JOKE

        • Meat Popsicle

          It was a JOKE.

    • morefandave

      Don’t give them any ideas.

  • David Levitsky

    I was listening to an interview with Chris Guiness yesterday on NPR. Chris is in charge of the UN relief activities. When asked about the missiles that were found in the UN schools, he said that there were no labels on them that detailed who owned them, so he could not blame Hamas for storing them in the schools. Also, per UN policy, he said they gave the missiles back to the local government – which of course is Hamas. If it was not the UN, I would not believe it…..

    • morefandave

      That is not just passively dumb, that is aggressive, willful stupidity. I take that back-nobody could possibly be that stupid; it’s pro-Palestinian bias.

      • loupgarous

        It’s actually malicious and lethal duplicity. This UN apparatchik turned deadly weapons whose only use was to murder Israeli civilians over to the murderers who abused the non-combatant status of a school to hide them.

        That action is compelling evidence that the UN is a co-conspirator with Hamas to continually destroy the peace in that part of the world. If the US continues funding the UN, we’re complicit in every innocent death resulting from Hamas’s bombing campaign and the UN’s helping Hamas.bomb Israel.

    • Kernighan

      He actually claimed there were no labels on them? This is the sort of intellect we have working for the U.N. in Gaza? He’s been there too long if he’s started making up conspiracy stories and implying that Hamas is NOT stationing missiles near Palestinian women and young. This is occurring too frequently to be some crazy, made up, conspiracy.

      He gives the missiles back because, like a bureaucrat, he always follows procedures, regardless of how senseless they may be.

    • Wally C

      What were they expecting to find?
      MADE IN IRAN: Property Of HAMAS. Do Not Touch

  • gold7406

    women and children first. rockets launched indiscriminately and choosing war over peace. not too bright. the politics and culture of doom.
    they have their own area. they could have decided to live humanly, instead they decided to use somalia,yemen,sudan,syria as role models.

  • morefandave

    The idea of the UN, organized by the winners of Word War II was a noble one: collective security to prevent the kind of aggression that led to that war. Back then, there was only one fox in the henhouse: the Soviet Union. Now the foxes are in control of it, and it shows. The UN is one of the most corrupt organizations on the planet. It is not merely useless, it is counterproductive.

  • Kernighan

    It turns out that there is one Israel. There are many arabic or islamic states. So, why are we surprised that a U.N., an organization which “votes” on matters of international relations has difficulty supporting the one versus the many? This demonstrates the fundamental weakness of an organization like the United Nations, and why such an organization ought to follow the path of it’s predecessor “The League of Nations”. Right and wrong do not necessarily follow the path of popularity, and will not always land on the side with the many votes.

  • Brian Stover

    “Disproportionate Response?” That is like “He hit me back first!”
    Hamas sends thousands of rockets at Israeli civilians, and the world is silent.

    Israel is criticized because it has leaders who are willing to absorb bad PR if it is necessary to defend itself.

    Israel, Iran, Russia and other countries have leaders who are advocates for their respective countries.

    Instead, we have Obama.

    • Drew Page

      I wish we had a president like Ben Netanyahu. Netanyahu has common sense and courage. He stands up for his country, does his best to protect its citizens and doesn’t issue idle threats.

      • Wally C

        Amen to that.

  • Tim Ned

    The conflict in the Mideast is beyond my understanding. But the simple fact that Hamas wants to destroy Israel is for me, reason enough to stand with Israel. Like the Nazi’s, Hamas is driven by their hatred of Israel. And they will destroy anything that stands in their path. Even their own children.

    • Kernighan

      It really is just about that simple. People from the west do not always get these things right because they, unlike people who grew up in the middle east do not tolerate any toughness or hardness in society. But in nations which have been at war for many decades one grows up understanding that there are fences, and there are checkpoints, and violence occasionally breaks out because everywhere there are people who have something in their history which could set off their anger.

      In the USA and some parts of Europe, we are essentially, “spoiled”, or perhaps the better word is “jaded”. We think it’s a simple matter to have lasting peace for many many decades. It’s not. Ask someone who served in WW II before it’s too late to even talk to these folks (they are mostly now entering in their 90′s).

    • Kernighan

      Here is another factoid which could help one understand. The history of armed battle AGAINST Israel ought to inform. The great increase in population in Palestine / Israel occurred during the first half of the 20th century. We have an accurate population count from the British taken in 1920. 700,000 people lived in Palestine. This included a substantial minority of jews, and a very small amount of Christians, but mostly arabic peoples. This population grew due to immigration, with many jews coming between 1920 and 1948 (when Israel became a nation), but ALSO many arabic people arrived. By 1948 the population had become 1,900,000 (68% arabic 32% jewish). In 1920 around 670,000 were supposedly arabic. Around 39,000 in 1920 were jewish (there had been increasing immigration as far back as the late 1800′s when pogroms in Russia shook jewish villagers, and helped start migration.

      Major armed battle arose as early as the 1940′s, after the Arab League had established a relationship with anti-semitic forces the world over (most famously they visited the Third Reich to affirm support for this goal of a jew free world). At this time the new state of Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan and Syria (at that time Lebanon was advanced and did not seek to destroy Israel; at this time Beirut was called the “Paris of the Levant”), the goal of which was to destroy the nascent nation of Israel. There also had been rebellion by arabs in Palestine against British Mandate rule (1920 to 1948) in the 1930′s. There is long standing armed antagonism from arabic groups against jews in Israel. Most of us believe this arises from interpretation of Hadith by Mohammed which mention destruction of jews.

  • EddieD_Boston

    The UN is a pathetic joke. We should send them all home.

  • Rupert Behrmann

    yep one of the many reasons that the US should stop funding the UN