Obama’s Greatest Asset: Clueless Americans

StupidH.L. Mencken made Andy Rooney look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.  Both gave curmudgeons a bad name.  But Andy was shrewd; he played to Middle Americans.  He would say something like, “Have you ever wondered why we collect string?” – and they would swoon.  He was one of them, they thought.  I knew Andy.  He wasn’t one of them and I suspect he didn’t think much of them.  Mencken, on the other hand, made no secret of his disdain for ordinary Americans, whom he saw as hopeless dolts.

Mencken, a Baltimore newspaperman, once said this about his fellow Americans:

“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.”

Pretty cold.  But given that the great masses of plain people elected Barack Obama twice, maybe H.L. was onto something.

They elected him the first time because he was a historical figure.  He wasn’t Mondale or Dukakis or Gore or Kerry.  He was young and cool and black and liberal.  And Americans wanted to make history.

But the second time around?  Unemployment was high, a big majority of Americans thought we were on the wrong track, the economic recovery was anemic, and most Americans had little confidence that things would get better anytime soon.

Yet he won again.  So how do we explain it?  Yes, you could pin it on a weak Republican candidate, but maybe Mencken was right.  Maybe Americans – or enough of them anyway – are just not that smart.

I’ve been thinking about this the past few days as I, along with everyone else, watched how the president has bungled the Syrian situation.  First, during his campaign for re-election, he needlessly draws a red line, warning Syria that the use of chemical weapons is something the United States would not tolerate.

So far, there have been no repercussions.

Then, a week or so ago, after the world witnessed gruesome videos of dead children who had been exposed to poison gas, presumably the work of the Syrian regime, Secretary of State John Kerry makes a forceful statement about Bashar al-Assad’s immorality and makes clear that military action is coming.

Twenty-four hours later the president, who said he didn’t need Congressional approval for a military attack, decides he wants Congress in on the decision.The president says he still wants to attack Syria, but that there’s no rush.

John Kerry, mindful that Congress is as war-weary as the American people, explains that any U.S. action would be an “unbelievably small, limited kind of effort,” prompting groans and guffaws from all over the place.  

Enter Vladimir Putin, who comes riding to Mr. Obama’s rescue — rescue, that is, from a certain no vote in the House and perhaps another no vote in the Democratically-controlled Senate. Putin pushes the idea – originally put forth, tongue in check, by Secretary of State Kerry — that Russia would work with the Syrian regime to put their chemical arsenal under international control “for subsequent destruction.”

The result of all this is a president who comes off looking like more like a community organizer than a commander-in-chief.  I keep waiting for Ted Mack to come out and say: Welcome friends to the latest edition of the Amateur Hour.

At heart, Mr. Obama may or may not be a nice guy. Reasonable people may disagree on that. But when it comes to being president, he’s clearly in way over his head.

In a piece for Commentary that runs under the headline, “The Collapse of the Obama Presidency,” Peter Wehner makes that very point.  This is how he puts it:

“How bad has 2013 been for Barack Obama? Let us count the ways.

“In the first year of his second term, the president has failed on virtually every front. He put his prestige on the line to pass federal gun-control legislation–and lost. He made climate change a central part of his inaugural address–and nothing has happened. The president went head-to-head with Republicans on sequestration–and he failed. He’s been forced to delay implementation of the employer mandate, a key feature of the Affordable Care Act. ObamaCare is more unpopular than ever, and it’s turning out to be a ‘train wreck’ (to quote Democratic Senator Max Baucus) in practice. The most recent jobs report was the worst in a year, with the Obama recovery already qualifying as a historically weak one. Immigration reform is going nowhere. And then there’s Syria, which has turned out to be an epic disaster.”

Barack Obama is the man who told us that his candidacy would “ring out across this land as a hymn that will heal this nation, repair this world, make this time different than all the rest.”  No wonder his acolytes thought he was the messiah.

So why do I think that if he were constitutionally able to run for a third term, despite everything, there’s a good chance he’d win?  Let’s turn again to Mr. Mencken and that observation he made many years ago for an answer.

“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.”

Or to put it in a slightly different way:  Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

 

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  • Warbo

    I couldn’t have said it better myself. The past two elections have proved, without a doubt, the majority of Americans vote for charisma, plain and simple. They will sell all of their ideals to a candidate if they just like the cut of his jib. Statesmanship is salesmanship.

  • potemkin_village

    THE ‘DUMMYING-DOWN-OF-THE-YOUTH’

    Bill Ayers Whines About Being “Sarah-Palin’s-Road-Kill”
    __Professor Bill Ayers is Tyranny’s tutor!! He’s the guy the left in our Department of Education supports by rewarding him with a tenured position subjecting young minds to his string of well constructed fallacies in the form of lectured tirades sans objective criticism and logical thinking; dummying down an entire generation of Americans. The, ignorant and logically confused youth that come away from this man’s classes are now the ‘useful-idiots’ in league with the coming ‘Turn-Key-Totalitarian-State” which is unfolding most illustratively in this ‘Faux-Government-Shutdown’ with all of its abuses from the White House’s ‘Grief-By-Fiat’ which is most unprecedented and quite tyrannical.
    __Obama’s pal knows that the president is there to rule according to his handler Valerie Jarrett and that he would have not gotten into the White House without the help of Bill Ayers and his fellows within the Elite Education community. I guess we can call the ‘Ruler-in-the-White-House,’ ‘The-Fresh-Prince-Of-Bill-Ayers.’
    __Support Rep. Boehner and Rep. Cantor in standing firm against the ‘Fresh-Prince-Of-Bill-Ayers’ in the White House!!

    Call: Speaker of the House Rep. John Boehner (R-8th); (202) 225-6205;
    (202)-225-0704; West Chester, Ohio: (513) 779-5400;

    Call House Majority Whip: Rep. Eric Cantor (R-7th); (202) 225-2815; 225-0011
    Glen Allen, Virginia: (804) 747-4073

  • TOMMY FREEDOM

    Clueless! I couldn’t have said it better !

  • keith hart

    In the overall bigger picture, what does political ideology really matter? When other far more important realities matter more. Published, well known, established historians conclude that 150 years ago, Congress — both houses — the breadth and depth of which was rife with corruption. They say it now — of 150 years ago — because it’s safe to say so — they’re all dead. So, in another 150 years will historians being saying the same thing about this current crop of congress critters. Because it will then be safe to admit it? How good is a system when the criminals run the criminal justice system?

    • keith hart

      sorry. So, in another 150 years will historians be saying……. Sometimes in proofreading, one slips by.

  • plsilverman

    Is the “moran” pic supportive of Bernie’s “clueless” theme?

  • keith hart

    How about that Ted Cruz? Twentyone hours on his feet and he still looks as fresh as a daisy. He must have a bladder the size of an aircraft hangar.

    • plsilverman

      and a cerebellum the size of a peanut.

      • keith hart

        What do you expect? He’s a congress critter.

  • Martin Monti

    I think Obama fancys himself as a Jesus figure. As Bill Oreilly makes clear in his book, Jesus was nailed to the cross because he was professing to be God

    • plsilverman

      I think you have a deep bias against Obama. > O’Reilly never makes anything clear anymore. Example, Jesus of Nazareth was nailed to the cross by the Roman government for being an activist and calling for adherence to The Ten Commandments.

  • plsilverman

    Putin “to the rescue”…gee, where did I hear that?…oh yea, on Hannity’s America. Ok, Bern’, your spin is always towards Obama’s “incompetence” (actually the mantra of the month at the fair and balanced station). Guess what? no poison gas used since Putin was engaged. I thought you guyz said the cold war wuz over ’cause of the Gipper? Now when a President tries to get a “neighbor” to help, suddenly that President is “weak”, is “incompetent”.
    More than one survey shows that Fox viewers are easily the most clueless viewers. No command of the facts whatsoever. But they sure know who is ….”incompetent”.

    • D Parri

      It’s always nice to hear from an expert on incompetence. Thanks.

      • plsilverman

        who is the “expert”?

    • D Parri

      In case you didn’t see, Putin bailed Obama’s a** out on the international scene. It was the best Pres O could hope for though.

      • plsilverman

        Like hell he did. You are the guys who love to say Reagan ended the cold war. so where’s this big hostility? Obama called upon a neighbor who could help. is that weakness? no

        • Warbo

          At what point did you see Obama make that call? Oh yeah, he didn’t.

    • D Parri

      A year ago, when Pres O started his ‘red line’ rhetoric he was in the middle of a presidential campaign. He made those comments in an effort to appear strong, but he NEVER intended to use military action. Now he appears weak because he is.

      • plsilverman

        Yes, his foreign policy is very weak: almost eliminating all Al-Caeda from Afghanistan ; getting BL after W. gave up; getting at least 22 of BL’s thug buddies; getting BL where he SAID HE WOULD BE in 2008 plus his twenty computers; getting Gadhafi without one drop of American blood spilled. bringing the troops home from the War For Halliburton. yes, very weak. you want to bomb Iran? well, you should have convinced more of your neighbors to vote for Romney and Ryan. he is “weak” because the RNC has a fetishistic need to have Foxnews hosts repeat that word every 7 seconds, about Obama?

    • Greyone

      Just admit it, Obama is weak and incompetent.Get off the liberal cool-aid Silverman. .

      • plsilverman

        funny: you say I use “kool aid” and then you use the RNC catchwords of the month: [Obama is] “weak” and “incompetent”. This “incompetent” thing is getting funnier and funnier each day. started about 3 weeks ago on O’Reilly. ok, you specify where Obama is so “weak” and “incompetent”.

        • plsilverman

          I say all those mantras originate at the RNC workshop. wanna – just 4 perspective – go thru weakness & incompetency of Reagan and Bush II?

        • Greyone

          Why am I not laughing? Seven months later and Obama is still weak and incompetent.

    • Warbo

      Sounds great, except Obama had nothing to do with Putin stepping in. He was too busy beating his war drum.

      And what does Fox News have to do with this? Just because they once used the words “Weak” and “Incompetent” to describe Obama you think anyone who uses those terms is just parroting? Guess what, People have been describing him this way since long before Fox jumped on the bandwagon. The terms just seem to fit with every move B.O. makes.

    • Judy480

      To quote a quote: “Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.” – See more at: http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/obamas-greatest-asset-not-too-smart-americans/?utm_source=BernardGoldberg.com+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f7c732f4f2-NEWSLETTER&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c1903183b6-f7c732f4f2-298356785#sthash.un953m8S.dpuf

  • D Parri

    The primary reason why OCare will fail is based on constitutional principle. The Supreme Court said that this was a tax, or equivalent, and Congress had the power to levy taxes. In applying the law there have been many waivers and exemptions already granted on bases that will ultimately be seen as discriminatory, i.e., there is no justifiable basis for granting an exemption from the tax, that the law will need to be repealed or otherwise be rendered as null.

    For those interested, please remember this as the machinations of this law play out over the next twelve months. Call it the “Ode to ObamaCare”.

    • T Ko

      What will it take to initiate a new appeal to the Supreme Court using this basis for an appeal? I, for one would support any effort to have the Tea Party, Ted Cruz, Americans For Prosperity, or anybody else that is capable of a new fight. Who should we talk to?

      • D Parri

        T, I would love to hear some good ideas on who might be interested in taking up this challenge…especially those with adequate resources to carry it all the way. The application of taxes on an unfair basis is absolutely unconstitutional, and if the law were applied without discriminations for special interest groups–such as Congress and lobbyists, then there would be much more opposition. In fact, there would be little support to keep it alive.

        If readers of this blog–including Bernie–have any suggestions regarding who to contact, then please include them in a reply.

    • plsilverman

      sorry, pal….it does not fully kick in until 2015 and by that time we will have 4,000,000 new jobs in healthcare and 30,000,000 American taxpayers now able to buy coverage even with a precondition. so it goes with wishing that the moon Europa was made of green cheese.

      • D Parri

        Yeah, that’s a real fantasy ain’t it? Kinda’ like expectin’ the IRS to be able to administer the system for collection of premiums, verification of coverage, claims, and the rest that goes with a healthcare system. Looks like the govt will finally take full control of the healthcare industry. NOT.

        • plsilverman

          yeah, so let’s go back to unlimited, unaccountable premium spikes and denial to cancer patients. by the way, the Labor Dept. projects 4,000,000. not an unreasonable expectation.

          • D Parri

            Just curious…ever hear of tort reform? Know what it is?

          • plsilverman

            yes, my IQ is over 40. and yes, it should have been written into AHCA. is that another compelling reason to go back to pre-AHCA?

          • D Parri

            No, not necessarily. But it is a compelling reason to look for a better answer to the problems which AHCA were intended to fix. I, for one have experienced first-hand the stark reality of the meaning of the term “pre-existing condition.” It was not pleasant. However, a government-mandate to buy health insurance while special groups are being exempted is a very hard pill to swallow–pardon the pun.

          • plsilverman

            I hope you’re A-ok. Look, the answer is make Health Care professionals civil servants and yes, make us pay a national health insurance tax. all Fed. workers take a 25% pay cut and buy their own dental, to help out. all Capitol hill inhabitants take a 25% pay cut and return 75% of their speaking fees to the treasury.

          • D Parri

            At least that’s heading towards a more equitable solution.

          • D Parri

            Maybe the increase in payments to providers is associated with their costs of providing services. Liability insurance costs have spiked. Insurance is to protect against lawsuits. Lawsuits are actions within the tort system of American justice. Do you see any connection between the civil lawsuit liabilities and the cost of healthcare? Maybe?

          • plsilverman

            sure. and that means go back to pre-AHCA?

          • D Parri

            Yes, in one respect. There is a better answer and we can get there if we don’t settle for some less. And I assume that you’re referring to ACA, not AHCA–you’ve used it several times…watch that IQ count.

          • plsilverman

            what acronym do you use for “Obamacare”?

          • D Parri

            I just usually refer to it as OCare. However, the title of the common title of the legislation is the Affordable Care Act, or ACA. Most folks drop of the actual first two words of the act, Patient Protection, which would then be the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or PPACA.

            ACA is good enough for me–it’s shorter.

          • plsilverman

            ACA is certainly problematic. as I say, it’s still a good first step in reform. Obama has been signing the GOP “adjustments”, states get a waiver, and employers got to waive it to 2015. the hard right is really wierding-out on this..trying to hold people’s health hostage to politics.

          • D Parri

            If we could find a treatment for politics that would put the out in out greed into remission–both sides, then I think there might be hope.

            “Fairness” is a worn-out word in the field of politics, but it is too often a misunderstood concept. Resigning to the standard of “whatever it takes to get the job done” does not engender fairness or equality under the law.

            Compromise can only be expected to develop somewhere between the far left and the far right–never at the extremes. Hopefully, compromise will promote the best of both perspectives–left and right–and result in the most equitable solution for all.

            Health care and the entire doctor/insurance/lawyer conglomerates that we look to for service/coverage/protection is a very complex and complicated industry.

            Government regulation for the purpose of consumer protection should be the goal of any legislation that deals with the free-market based health industry in a capitalist society. Any other function of government must be carefully contemplated regarding its intrusion and possible erosion of a healthy industry capable of securing its investment into the future of our society and economy.

          • Warbo

            Yes, let’s. The best way to proceed when you made a terrible mistake is to step back. Agreed where we came from was not good, but where we’re going is much, much worse.

      • Warbo

        2014, not 2015. And I don’t even think Obamacare’s most avid proponents are making those kinds of predictions. Take that into account with the fact that it’s already failing to meet the predictions that they actually HAVE been making and 2015 is not looking so good.

  • keith hart

    Count on it, Obamacare will not survive. It’s too bureaucratic, insane. But, to his credit, Mr. Obama has initiated a dialogue that will provide a solution to healthcare for all. Have you ever been in an emergency room? Little Rock, Arkansas. I’ve never been in Arkansas before in my life. I’m from Jersey, living in Wisconsin, I’m on my way to visit family in New Mexico, for the holidays. You want everyone to be taken care of by professionals, of course. You don’t want anyone dying slowly, bleeding out, ignored, while paperwork slowly changes overworked hands.

    You get arrested because you call attention to someone dying. And they arrest you for disturbing the peace. We are not Russians. Mr. Obama has done what he is supposed to do — move it.

    • plsilverman

      really? was pre-AHCA “insane”? was Romneycare insane?

  • keith hart

    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the annual average income, nationally, of attorneys is a little more than $24,000. Whew. Slightly better than supermarket baggers. Have we a glut of pre-lawers hoping for a TV script life? I would gladly pay more taxes to fund the education of many more engineers and research scientists, particularly oncologists — having lost too many cherished family members. In fact, I contribute whole heartedly to effective scholarship funds. But, more is needed. There are only so many hours in a day before two or three part time jobs cause studies to suffer.

    • D Parri

      I believe that your insight on the goal of these pre-lawyers is all-telling here. Too many try to hide behind the mantra of “I just have a love of the law and I want to help uphold it”, when their stated goal should be “I love working with the law and I want to make a fortune working in it.”

      With the advent of OCare and a dearth of doctors to fulfill the patients needs, I would push for an increased investment into the medical educational institutions.

      • legal eagle

        What is a pre-lawyer? I haven’t heard that term in 30 years…Undergraduate colleges , to my knowledge, no longer have a pre-law major nor do they have a pre-med major….

        • D Parri

          Try reading the comments above if you want to find out about what you’re talking.

      • keith hart

        D Parri, perhaps the nail on the head. Start with how medical practice exists in the E.R, and go from there Ocare will die, count on it. Even its supporters are looking for waivers. But it does provoke serious focus — Mr. Obama is good for that. I do not want to experience what I did in a Little Rock E.R. ever again, unless I have to, I was much younger then and full of Irish — the guy did live, thank God for that There is still that arrest record, perhaps Legal Eagle can assist with that. Providing funding for the education of the medical arts is certainty worth it..

    • legal eagle

      Perhaps the mean earnings for lawyers with experience would be a more accurate indicator of earnings for lawyers, doctors etc…Think there is a shortage of oncologists? If so, where did you read that? I’d be interested in reading about it….

      • D Parri

        I thought you said you are the expert.

  • D Parri

    This is a reply to a truly clueless person (possibly American, who knows?) that I recently made. He prefers to interpret the comment as my statement against ANY entitlements. Read it and see what you think. Then decide for yourself–am I the clueless one?

    Extended unemployment. Food stamp (SNAP) fraud and abuses. Entitlement fraud. If you have not personally observed this widespread fraud, then you would have to be living in a cave.

    Within the single block where I live, and it is a middle-class neighborhood, I can show you people who rely on entitlements for their way of life. The young women prefer to have children as single moms in order to get government benefits. Food stamps are sold in order to get cash for non-allowable items–alcohol and drugs. Claims for benefits are made using fraudulent information which does not accurately report all income for the household (remaining unmarried helps) and, thus, the claimants receive more benefits than they are legally entitled to.

    No, this is not opinion, it is FACT. I cannot force you to open your eyes but I can give you the facts.

    You may or may not be in favor of the institution of marriage itself, but–regardless–the policies which incentivize increased benefits for unmarried women do–IN FACT–contribute to the already high and ever-increasing rate of unmarried mothers. It may be my opinion, but the FACT of a rising unmarried birth rate has seriously impacted the stability of families throughout our nation. I, for one, believe that children who have the benefit of a mother and father present during their childhood have a much greater chance of succeeding upon their entry into the world labor force.

    Once again, you took my comments out of context. I agree with your comment that one of the functions of our government in society is to lend a helping hand to those in need. However, there are rampant wastes and abuses in our system that actually hurt those that need it most.

  • brickman

    I’m always amazed that the people who looked at the numbers and predicted 330 electoral votes for Mitt Romney consider other Americans stupid.

  • D Parri

    As much as we discuss the stupidity of others, I think it is also necessary to take into consideration another very real factor of life in general. Never underestimate the potential for good people to be duped. It happens on both sides of the aisle. I do not believe that a democrat is stupid for the simple fact that they are a democrat. Same goes for republicans. In making critical decisions that will have far-reaching consequences for many people, it is necessary to be able to exercise our most vital muscle, our brain, putting partisanship and any ulterior motives of greed aside.

    As it was once stated, “Now is the time for all good men (and women) to come to the aid of their country.” A typing drill? Ok, but it still carries a message worth repeating.

    • keith hart

      D Parri, excellent. American politics have always been roiling and rollicking. My maternal grandfather had been a shaker in Hudson county democrat politics, 30′s thru 50′s and therefore one of a few who decided who the next democrat governor of NJ would be. His paternal grandfather had been a fervent Mr. Lincoln republican. And therefore a target of abuse and even duel challenges from Boston abolitionist republicans. American politics is always the same. It’s just the names change. My granddaddy, an Irish saloon, hail fellow well met, with a captivating storytelling ability and fine singing voice was fond of saying, “Is this a private fight or can anyone join in?” He was also Mayor Frank Hague’s principal councilor and head of his personal security. A devout Catholic, he was considered to be an Irish mystic, within acceptable bounds of the Church and to have Radar O’Reilly’s ability. He was also Hudson county parks commissioner. I don’t believe he had a clue where any Hudson county parks were located.

      • D Parri

        Thanks, Keith. There are many interesting lessons to be learned in reviewing our heritage, and it sounds like you’ve got your fair share to be able to draw on!

        Yeah, I believe that when we place blinders on that allow us to see labels as our guide to making decisions, then we are doomed to repeat some of those mistakes of the past. I agree with you in the fact that “The names may change to protect the–guilty–but the politics are still the same.”

        • keith hart

          D Parri, the guy from Little Rock now lives in Russell, Arkansas, about thirty miles northeast of Little Rock. He has three kids and loving wife. We exchange Christmas cards and promise to get together, eventually. I hope so. Although, I can’t see myself being in Arkansas ever again. Is that biased of me?

          • T Ko

            Doesn’t sound biased to me…just sounds like you had some bad experiences in Arkansas. You might want to check it out someday…I’m sure it’s changed.

          • D Parri

            Keith, I agree with T KO, it sounds more like you’re are a little gun-shy of Arkansas–not biased in the prejudicial sense. It’s normal to learn from our experiences.

  • D Parri

    Large groups of stupid people. However, it only takes 65 million to elect a Democratic president that has what it takes to surpass Jimmy Carter’s record of a failed presidency. Carter’s mistakes pale in comparison. Also, that same 65 million idiots can be given credit for a Democratic Senate–and house, at the time–which was responsible for crafting the POTUS’s signature legislation, which will be seen as the worst threat our nation has faced in 100 years.

    So, it’s not the first time we’ve seen the power of stupidity overcome sanity and reason, but at least Carter did not put the nation on a downward spiral of such epic proportions. At least Clinton could be viewed as not harming the country in the same fashion that Pres O has.

    • legal eagle

      If you don’t vote Republican you must be stupid? And while the Republicans take care of the wealthy people like you are too ill informed to understand how you are being used..

      • D Parri

        Now, beagle, please stop taking my comments out of context. I have clearly stated that there are good, bad, and ugly…stupid, smart, and clueless that come from both sides of the aisle. Also, I may be ill-informed about many things, but government finances…it ain’t!

        • legal eagle

          So explain where this great wealth of knowledge about government finances comes from? What is your experience, if any, in finance?

          • Lc Goodfellow

            Greetings, Crow, For finance try these;
            Romney’s Bain
            Capital invested PRIVATE MONEY in:
            AMC Entertainment – 1500 Theaters, 18,550 Employees.
            Burger King – 8432 stores in the United States with 10′s of thousands of Employees.
            Burlington Coat Factory – 475 stores, 28,729 Employees.
            Clear Channel Communications – 20,000 Employees.
            Domino’s Pizza – 10,000 Employees.
            Dunkin’ Donuts 10,000 stores, thousands of Employees.
            Guitar Center – 225 stores, hundreds of Employees.
            The Sports Authority – 14,300 Employees.
            Staples – 1575 stores and thousands of employees.
            Toys “R” Us – Toys ‘R’ Us has 836 stores with thousands of employees.
            Warner Music Group – 3,700 Employees.

            Obama invested TAXPAYER MONEY in:
            Solyndra – BANKRUPT
            Ener 1 – BANKRUPT
            Beacon Power – BANKRUPT
            Abound Solar – BANKRUPT
            Amonix Solar – BANKRUPT
            Spectra Watt – BANKRUPT
            Eastern Energy – BANKRUPT
            GM Volt – Solyndra on wheels – $49,000 cost to taxpayers for each one sold.
            $900 Billion Dollars with NO Jobs.
            NOTE: All of these companies were Obama campaign contributors.

            The Choice was CLEAR…Do you want a BUSINESSMAN who has GENERATED BILLIONS or A President who has WASTED TRILLIONS?
            ” Stupid is as, Stupid does. “

          • legal eagle

            If you invest in a company does that create jobs? Looking at my stock portfolio I must have created millions of jobs…

            As I said, ignorance is bliss to most of the people on this site…

          • Lc Goodfellow

            Crow, you hear the one about the preacher on the train being bothered by the drunk who wanted to hear some of those “Thou’s and Thee’s and new church talk.The preacher looked up at the drunk, smiled and said, like many here,
            “Brother get ‘THEE’ seduced.”

          • legal eagle

            No….haven’t heard it …is it supposed to be funny?

          • D Parri

            Apparently your work on Wall Street must have been as a janitor or pizza delivery–maybe, but you should have learned something. Maybe not.

          • legal eagle

            I know you have no answers so keep repeating this political talking point….VOTERS…I AM AGAINST WASTE AND FRAUD, AREN’T YOU?

          • D Parri

            Yes, I am. And I’m damned thankful that we have as many government auditors as we do!

          • D Parri

            Or in proverbial Spanish terms…
            “Aunque la mona se vista de seda, mona se queda.”

          • D Parri

            I doubt that you will understand it but, GFOA member 23 years, AICPA 32 years, Finance Director and Director of Budget for 5 different major municipalities over 20+ years, licensed CPA and tax attorney 30+ years. I am somewhat informed in the area of finance, budget, governmental economics, taxes, and management. It is where I have been for the last 20+ years.

            Now, I believe in fairness of play, so whenever you are ready please post your credentials in a reply to this message.

          • legal eagle

            Ok…so I respect your credentials….I worked in various Wall Street firms for more than 20 years in various positions including finance, M&A and MBS… Also have done work on the legal side involving M&A…
            So, now that you don’t work in the field do you have any position that’s not ideologically driven?

          • D Parri

            Yes. Based upon what I have observed first-hand and have looked for a logical explanation of the circumstances which could be theorized and ultimately applied with reasonable success, I subscribe to the belief that at least 80% of the cases of poverty households are self-perpetuating. The ‘removal of the ladder’, so to speak, has been made through unchecked entitlements whereby individuals might otherwise climb out of the hole, and it is being made on an ever-increasing and expanding basis by the federal government. Obviously, climbing out of poverty requires incentive, and removal of the incentive almost guarantees perpetuity of the situation. This is a deceitful practice carried out by our government much in the manner that someone might pass along an unhealthy non-nutritional ‘goody’ to a diabetic in order to quell their immediate desire for food. It is not healthy and it is made on a false premise.

            That is my position and it has absolutely nothing to do with the Republican party. I do not hate people, gays, people of a different race, or otherwise. I do not hate Obama, but I do not believe that his economic policies have been good for this country–beginning with the bailouts. If you actually did work on Wall Street, then you should understand that an investment into a dying or troubled industry would be ill-advised. What would it have taken for you to advise your clients to invest millions into Solyndra? This is a fact, Solyndra went bankrupt. Does examining the circumstances after the fact change the ultimate outcome?

            So, yes, I try to base my positions on facts, not ideology.

          • legal eagle

            Well I respect your background and your theories about poverty. However, theories are not policies and do not solve immediate problems.
            If you believe the government should not help the less fortunate than you have a different philosophy of the role of government than I do…I believe the government’s role is to lend a helping hand to those who need it.
            The question I have for you is this…What government benefit is so plentiful that it fosters dependence? Are people not working because they are living so well off government benefits? What benefits would you end?

          • D Parri

            Extended unemployment. Food stamp (SNAP) fraud and abuses. Entitlement fraud. If you have not personally observed this widespread fraud, then you would have to be living in a cave.

            Within the single block where I live, and it is a middle-class neighborhood, I can show you people who rely on entitlements for their way of life. The young women prefer to have children as single moms in order to get government benefits. Food stamps are sold in order to get cash for non-allowable items–alcohol and drugs. Claims for benefits are made using fraudulent information which does not accurately report all income for the household (remaining unmarried helps) and, thus, the claimants receive more benefits than they are legally entitled to.

            No, this is not opinion, it is FACT. I cannot force you to open your eyes but I can give you the facts.

            You may or may not be in favor of the institution of marriage itself, but–regardless–the policies which incentivize increased benefits for unmarried women do–IN FACT–contribute to the already high and ever-increasing rate of unmarried mothers. It may be my opinion, but the FACT of a rising unmarried birth rate has seriously impacted the stability of families throughout our nation. I, for one, believe that children who have the benefit of a mother and father present during their childhood have a much greater chance of succeeding upon their entry into the world labor force.

            Once again, you took my comments out of context. I agree with your comment that one of the functions of our government in society is to lend a helping hand to those in need. However, there are rampant wastes and abuses in our system that actually hurt those that need it most.

          • legal eagle

            So because their Is entitlement fraud there should be no entitlements?

          • keith hart

            You overlook the obvious. There should be accountability. Any medicare fraud M.D.’s retain your services?.

          • D Parri

            Keith, help me out here. Is it me or is this guy really the dunderhead that he appears to be? I don’t know why I take the time to spell it out for him like I do, but I tried to be civil and present the facts to him in a logical fashion.

            Please tell me, did you understand what I said about entitlement fraud? Did you get the message from reading my response that I was saying that there should be no entitlements?

            If so, then my apologies go out to him. Otherwise, I will have to resolve myself to give up any discussions with him in the future. I would appreciate your opinion.

          • T Ko

            Pardon me but I would like to say that I believe that this guy is as stupid as he appears to be! Legal Weasel…sheez!

          • keith hart

            Forensic accountants should be in far more demand.

          • D Parri

            Yes, and the savings to be accrued would more than pay for their salaries.

          • legal eagle

            Can’t afford them…The government has no money..

          • D Parri

            You really don’t have clue as to what you’re talking about, do you. Government auditors throughout all branches of government save billions of budget dollars annually. They save far more than their salaries cost. Can’t afford them? What an idiot!

          • legal eagle

            No… don’t do criminal work….don’t like dealing with crooks….
            There is accountability bit never enough…there will always be people who cheat the system…What is your bright idea for preventing fraud?

          • D Parri

            IRS auditors prevent fraud. Defense contract auditors prevent fraud. HHS auditors prevent fraud. Are you getting the picture yet? Probably not.

          • D Parri

            No entitlements because there is fraud? Did I say that there are sales of illegal prescription drugs and, therefore, we should stop all production of prescription drugs? You truly are as clueless as they come.

          • D Parri

            Now, listen carefully and don’t mess this up. Listen.

            I’ve seen people drive after they’ve had too much to drink.

            Now, once again, did I say that we should eliminate the production of alcoholic beverages?

            This should be interesting.

          • D Parri

            Please show me where I stated that the government should not help the less fortunate so that I can apologize to them.

          • legal eagle

            You keep railing against social welfare programs but you don’t believe in eliminating them? So what exactly do you want?

          • D Parri

            I have already explained quite clearly, but I’ll tell you one more time: eliminate fraud, waste, and abuse!

            Pay specific attention to the fact that I DID NOT say ELIMINATE ENTITLEMENTS!

          • legal eagle

            and I ask you again…How? I’m for eliminating cancer…I have no idea how to do it….ELIMINATE WASTE AND FRAUD? HOW? WHAT’S YOUR PLAN OTHER THAN IDENTIFYING A PROBLEM?
            The answer I suspect is you have no clue?

          • D Parri

            The key to finding a cure for cancer is through medical research. I believe you when you say you don’t know how.

          • D Parri

            The key to eliminating fraud and abuse will require research into the matter. I don’t have a cure for fraud, but that does not mean that it doesn’t exist.

          • D Parri

            Pay attention, the first step in finding a cure or correcting a problem is to IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM. Regardless of whether or not I have a clue for a solution, a solution DOES EXIST.

          • legal eagle

            Not to be too disagreeable but you’re stating an opinion without any evidence or facts that support your theory…

          • D Parri

            Your opinion.

          • D Parri

            Personal experience, i.e., first-hand knowledge. I’ve prepared tax returns for some and assisted them in their welfare applications. I’m not responsible for their fraud, but I’ve seen it, and it is rampant–nationwide.

          • legal eagle

            A little hyperbolic , don’t you think? Welfare applications? Fraud is rampant based upon your personal experience….Are you an expert on the subject?
            Get serious…..Do you think you’re talking to an idiot?…LOL

          • D Parri

            Yes.

          • D Parri

            No exaggeration on my part.

          • D Parri

            Yes, did you know that people who receive benefits need to first apply for them? Maybe not…you’ve existed in a Wall Street cave for years.

          • legal eagle

            You’re about as much of an expert as Bill O’Reilly…. Anecdotal evidence does not qualify you as an expert but the issue is what do you propose?

          • D Parri

            And you became an expert when?

          • legal eagle

            I am not an expert on the extent of waste and fraud in social programs…In fact, I don’t really think much about it…Obviously you believe you know the problem but have no proposed solutions….Tell me how much waste and fraud there is in the defense budget, in farm subsidies and in military procurement…

          • D Parri

            Since you brought it up, why don’t you tell me?

          • D Parri

            When did I say I was an expert? I think you misunderstood what you read…the word was E-X-P-E-R-I-E-N-C-E. Look it up.

          • D Parri

            “Not to be..disagreeable…”? You are always disagreeable. But then, as antagonist, that’s your role.

          • legal eagle

            Sir my background has taught me that the government’s investing in Solyndra was a loser, the governments investment in Tesla was a winner and the government bailouts of Wall Street and the auto industry were gigantic winners…Why do you bring up Solyndra and not mention the billions the government wastes investing in the defense industry…You must be equally upset with the billions wasted each year on obsolete weapons systems lobbied for by the defense industry?

          • D Parri

            Absolutely.

          • keith hart

            Legal eagle, are they really lobbied for by the defense industry or rather by Congress critters putting their districts above the nation. It my understanding, defense contracts are so cut throat competitive, it only makes sense to advance cutting edge not obsolete.

      • keith hart

        legal eagle, you are far too partisan for the good of your own argument. Any California resident who denies the state’s fiscal crisis lacks veracity. Perhaps a practical trait for an attorney, required to present any argument for hire regardless of truth.

        • legal eagle

          If you want to call it a crisis because it makes you feel better than be my guest. It could become a crisis but it is not currently a crisis its a problem that is manageable.
          Your use of hyperbole to make a point is indicative of your watching too much Fox News….

        • D Parri

          Bravo!

      • keith hart

        legal eagle, surely your background on the Street allows you to understand how democrat’s use of tax law for the sake of social engineering gives them their own ‘wealthy’ to take care of and feed. I should not have to present a list: just click 24/7 cheatsheet or Seeking Alpha. Allowing tax loopholes and tax shelters providing they jump thru hoops — mostly contributions to the DNC — just makes the tax bill on the middle class so much more burdensome.

      • D Parri

        Perhaps, but not used by you.

    • keith hart

      D Parri, when folks wax poetic about the 90′s, they overlook the fact, Mr. Gingrich was defacto president. Mr. Carter, to my undying gratitude, motivated me to strike out on my own — seeing as how the economy was so ungenerous in jobs or opportunity. I began trading my own account at 28yrs and have been on my own ever since. Realizing my lifelong ambition of no employer, no clients, no customers. Responsible for my own actions, not liable to the errors or apathy of others. When it was obvious Mr. Obama would win, I arranged my holdings so that even the most imaginative leftist can’ put a dent in me.

      • keith hart

        sorry, “can’t put a dent in me.

    • plsilverman

      explain what particular action of Obama has “harmed” the country? I can see a very *superficial* scan shows that the debt went up about 6 trillion. about half of that is the interest he’s had to pay, based upon what was left to him. But5 fair enough, it should be goi8ng down, not up. you say implementing the TARP and bringing GM back to number one is harm. how about a Nat’l version of Romneycare. will 30 million newly insured taxpayers ready, willing and able to buy coverage is “harm”. ok, I’ll wait……………. / yeah, worst threat in 100 years, even worse than apartheid.

      • D Parri

        Now you are dealing in hyperbole.

      • D Parri

        Based upon the current polls of those who still favor OCare, that 30 million must be the remainder that are in favor of it. However, that’s a far cry from the remaining 270 million who don’t favor it.

  • Wil

    Or to put it in a slightly different way: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.>>
    .
    Yes Bernie, They gave the country a republican House Of Representatives!

    • legal eagle

      Republicans ..the party that hates gays, minorities and the poor…

      • Lc Goodfellow

        Go ask the Preacher …

      • Jeff Webb

        Democrats ..the party that lies and projects…

        • keith hart

          Enough of, not all, democrats guilty of white racism. The most insidious kind of racism: the soft bigotry of low expectation.

          • D Parri

            Unfortunately, it has always been one of the bulwarks and an intrinsic edifice of the entitlement industries.

          • legal eagle

            Repeating a moronic Bush cliché doesn’t make it any less moronic than when Bush said it…

          • D Parri

            My, my…anything tagged with a Bush label is moronic?

            Legal weasel, you are so smart!

      • Wil

        Yep, but they have a reason for their hate. They are just rotten to the core!

        • D Parri

          Ok Wil, granted, but, pray tell what those same folks would be if they changed their party affiliation to democrat? Would they still be rotten to the core? Would the Democratic Party allow such people to join them? Would they experience an ethnic cleansing (perhaps political cleansing) by changing parties? Currently I am still a republican and that it why I am so confused, but I was hoping that you could help me since you’re a democrat and obviously just the opposite of us rotten republicans. Thanks, Wil.

      • D Parri

        Didn’t you forget killing babies and burning grandmother’s?

  • D Parri

    Now, I predict that the previous set of ‘facts’ that I just listed will be viewed by those clueless Obama acolytes who think he’s the Messiah as heresy. Too bad, but it’s hard to argue with the ‘facts’.

  • D Parri

    Ok, let me give it a go…in the style of some very prolific–but clueless–writers on this blog. Bernie, take note.

    FACT: Democrats are responsible for creating an economic disaster not seen since the 1920′s. It is pending.
    FACT: Democrats are responsible for a tripling of the human population, leading to a world water shortage.
    FACT: Democrats have caused the extinction of certain animal species that humans have historically relied upon for food supplies.
    FACT: Democrats are continuing to cause a rise in global temperatures, leading to natural disasters which have already occurred and that will continue to occur.
    FACT: The democrat-run Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury will soon announce a collapse of the U.S. monetary & lending system.
    FACT: Due to a democratic party initiative to further restrict and curb oil imports, the price of gasoline is projected to be greater than $8/gal. by December.
    FACT: As a result of President Obama’s healthcare legislation, more than 43 states project that they will go into default regarding their financial obligations.

    • legal eagle

      Are you writing this from a psychiatric ward or from Tea Party headquarters?

      • D Parri

        Nope.

        • keith hart

          Who?

          • D Parri

            no entiendo lo que dices

          • D Parri

            Who??

          • D Parri

            Who who??

      • Lc Goodfellow

        Crow, “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”ARE YOU KEEPING SCORE ? I have, this is what the record show’s.

        Congressional Control: for 62 years
        U.S. House: 1951-2013, Rep. 9 times, Dem. 22 times. Two year terms
        U.S. Senate: 1951-2013, Rep. 10 times, Dem. 23 times. Six year terms
        Need help with the math?
        How did we ever get to where we are today?
        Count it over!

        “You know, I actually believe my own [bovine excrement].” Guess who said that to News Week ?
        Now, isn’t that special?

        • keith hart

          just a left field guess. Sen. Patrick Moynihan?

          • Lc Goodfellow

            Small Hints,
            Also said the following; “Not one dime more.” “5 million jobs created.”
            “The most transparent ever.”
            “It’s not political.”
            The give away are you ready ? “It’s Bush’s fault.”

      • keith hart

        There is no Tea Party hdqtrs. There are many Tea Party centers. As for psychiatric wards,they have either been closed down, by the party in power or converted to law schools

    • keith hart

      Di Parri, well said. Please, in the future, do not overlook Rino’s in this bill of lading.

  • D Parri

    Unfortunately, the people within those large groups are too often represented by the loudest voices, not the wisest of intellects. Therefore, those groups of people who become identified by political persuasion, race, religion, or some other commonality tend to be ranked on some level according to those loud voices. Whenever we choose to take the convenient option of saying that we ‘know’ what someone is all about and/or ‘what they’re made of’–when we have never even met the person, then that is an error in human judgment and we are all prone to make it. However, when someone makes a career out of being able to ‘stir the pot’ in order to gain influence, money or power, then be very careful in what you are willing to invest in that individual. Their path in life is sure to be tumultuous.

  • D Parri

    Corporate tax cuts provide incentives for businesses to hire more workers–not fewer. As a result of the corporate exodus of the last 30 years, there are no longer enough jobs to support the millions of immigrants you so desperately desire to provide a home to, and up to $40k/yr in entitlements for doing what–breaking our own sovereign border laws?

    If you wish to devise a plan to place this nation in an unrecoverable downward spiral, then I don’t think you could do much better than spend more than we take in effectively doubling our national debt, give away what we do not have even now to millions of people who are not citizens, use the highest office in the land to divide the people, increase the tax burden upon responsible taxpayers, and embarrass the nation by carrying out the worst case of international negotiations seen in modern history. This is the proverbial nail in the coffin coming after Benghazi–one year after. The effect of having a weak commander in chief will be a long-lasting deterioration in the psyche of our military.

    Pres O’s “signature” piece of legislation is part of that plan of attempting to ruin our nation, and none of the ‘promises’ made by him in his marketing campaign to sell this product will be upheld. For most people, you will not be able to keep your health care plan or your doctor, your costs will go up, your level of service will go down, and you will not–I repeat NOT–be better of than you were before.

    So, ask yourself, if it were possible that Pres O could be elected to another term, would you vote for him? I think your answer could reveal whether you based your consumer purchases on reality and a careful analysis of the product, or if the sales pitch is all that matters. Think about it.

    • legal eagle

      Thank you for you well thought out rant….Increasing the tax burden on “respectable ” people?

      Beanie Babies Founder to Plead Guilty to Tax Evasion

      The founder of Beanie Babies agreed to plead guilty to a federal tax-evasion charge in connection with undeclared Swiss accounts and to
      pay $53.6 million in penalties.
      It must be the increasing tax burden that caused this guy to violate the law…

      • keith hart

        yes, you are right legal eagle. D Parri’s post is well thought out. I would, however, under no circumstances, characterize it as a rant. What is your reason for calling this post a rant? While you are at it would you please explain the reason for the condition that California is in.

        • legal eagle

          Exactly what condition is California in? I live in California and, as of this morning, things look fine.

          • keith hart

            The edge of bankruptcy. Maybe, a federal bailout?

          • legal eagle

            California is on the edge of bankruptcy? Must be a long way to the edge?
            Looking out my window I would tell you it’s just another day in paradise….LOL

          • keith hart

            legal eagle,surely you are being disingenuous. Or you live with blinders. Or you reside in Pacific Heights.

          • D Parri

            Legal Beagle is playing games–it is best to ignore him. He will continue his rant regardless of any serious offering of truth from either side.

          • keith hart

            Thank you, D Parri, but I can’t help it. I love tracking down. Just like I loved tracking down shooters in Kabul

          • keith hart

            We are speaking peacefully, of course.

          • legal eagle

            The only people I don’t speak peacefully with are obnoxious opposing lawyers…fortunately, they are far and few between..

          • keith hart

            Orange county judges or Los Angeles county judges?

          • keith hart

            legal eagle, so, did you vote for Jerry Brown or not?

          • legal eagle

            Absolutely voted for Brown… I would have voted for you instead of Meg Whitman

          • keith hart

            So, after an excellent weekend of sailing offshore and flying the Box in my Pitts Special, I am back. Did you miss me?

          • keith hart

            I would never run for political office. I love my liberty too much. I couldn’t imagine being tethered to a staff and advisors and consultants. Nor a target for threats from party leaders. No the career of a politician is for those of lesser means and lower expectations.

          • Lc Goodfellow

            loco como rata de la casa de la mierda

          • legal eagle

            I don’t play games.. I try to add a little fact based argument rather than ideological talking points…Some appreciate it , most don’t like dealing with facts…

          • keith hart

            legal eagle, personally I don’t care where an idea originates. So long as it works. The virtue of facts is they are demonstrable. Now, back to that embarrassingly evident California fiscal crisis………..?

          • legal eagle

            I reside near the beach in Southern California….the sun always shine, crime is low and life is good…no complaints from me…You want to worry about state or federal budgets…be my guest…LOL

          • keith hart

            legal eagle,I always considered Jerry Brown to be an imaginative individual. Perhaps that’s attributable to his Jesuit roots. And the perjorative, “governor moonbeam”, undeserved. If I’m not mistaken, reports conclude he served as mayor of Oakland with distinction. That couldn’t have been an easy job. Sort of like carrying a basket of eggs across a barroom brawl. No, California could do alot worse with Jerry Brown as governor. Unlike the previous occupant. I was always amazed at how Californians could elect such an ill equipped candidate. I love his comedic roles, though. Kindergarten Cop, Twins. Governor of the second most powerful state in the Union? Not a chance. Besides, never trust the integrity of a guy who cheats on his wife.

          • Tim Ned

            If everything is rosy out there than please hurry up and send my California tax return for the work we do in California! And please don’t send me an IOU! I paid your taxes, get my return to me!

          • legal eagle

            You paid my taxes? Not sure what you are referring to?

          • Tim Ned

            In California you are withholding pay from workers who work in your state, but don’t live there. You withhold much more than the actual tax. But you are very very slow in sending the returns.

          • legal eagle

            I’ll take your word for it…so your complaint is that tax refunds aren’t paid fast enough? Couldn’t tell you as I never get one…

          • Tim Ned

            I seldom complain. I’m just telling you that in effect, I have borrowed the state of California close to 6 figures and I’m hoping I don’t get an IOU. A simple thank you would be appropriate.

            By the way. I think California is one of the most beautiful states in the country and if I could convince my wife I would retire there. I’m just not sure coming from MN I could afford it.

          • legal eagle

            Move to San Diego….We’ll find a place you can afford…..LOL

          • legal eagle

            An interest check will be paid…a thank you…unlikely….

          • D Parri

            I’ll explain it for you. He has worked or done business in California for some amount of time and ended up paying taxes based upon the income he received. He is due a refund. Surely a wise Wall Street broker should understand that?!

          • legal eagle

            He paid his taxes not mine….

          • D Parri

            So, tax revenues for the state of California do not provide any benefit to you as a resident?

          • Paul Courtney

            Thanks for making Bernie’s point again, Pigeon. Your low info voting and ignorance of gov’t finance must help you concentrate on violin lessons while your state burns. Cities go bankrupt (how many now?) because your state has no money to bail ‘em out, but hey the weather’s fine. Keep voting the D line and your lefty reps in Sac. will “fix” the weather, too. Do you realize your party thinks it can fix the weather? And if they fix it like they’ve fixed state finances, you’ll think you’ve moved to Cleveland. Already laughing at your non-response, please don’t disappoint.

          • legal eagle

            Cities go bankrupt from lack of revenue…And when they go bankrupt no one cares except ideologues like yourself and the media both of whom have no clue about how the financial system works…
            Do you think the American financial system started anew on January 20, 2009? Get a clue and read past the headlines…

          • keith hart

            When cities go bankrupt from lack of revenue there is a reason: the debits and credits do not balance. The two most common reasons for lack of revenue: 1. ill considered spending. 2. driving away revenue producing business and individual taxpayers. And those responsible forestall the inevitable by borrowing. Many care: folks whose jobs are dependent upon fiscal accountability: cops, firefighters, emts, teachers. Coast-to-coast, they add up in the millions. A vast number that can be seen to the distant horizon. Rather callous of you to say only ideologues care.

          • D Parri

            And you are the great expert on financial systems, aren’t you?

            Ok, teach us about a balance sheet, an income statement, and a cash-flow statement. What is fund accounting? What is an MD&A? We could start with those, Mr. Expert.

          • legal eagle

            and your knowledge of government finance comes from where?

          • Paul Courtney

            I have other sources, but could get by using you as “reverse” barometer. City (or anyone, for that matter) that loses revenue can cut spending to avoid bankruptcy. Except they can’t, because Ds (and extremely rare RINOs in City gov’t) set up future legacy costs without funding them now. And even Detroit still has revenue stream, but they can’t get more revenue from folks who leave. So fundamental and obvious that you are proving your ignorance each time you post. To say lack of revenue is entire story is laughable, but nobody is laughing. You can pick up on this from headlines alone, or reading through article, but best source is the classified section, where your union retirees look ’cause they are being forced back into workforce after Bankruptcy Court tells (those not as well connected as GM union) that they are screwed. And look at all those part time and temp jobs, which would be called “Obamacare jobs” if press were a bit less clueless than you. Not funny, call me disappointed.

          • legal eagle

            What spending can they cut? Let’s hear your specific proposals on how to screw city workers and the poor…

          • Paul Courtney

            Specific proposals? From me, a gov’t finance ignoramous? Wouldn’t that be like you voting?

          • keith hart

            The consequences of flawed ideology is evident and can not be excused, blamed on others, explained away or otherwise hidden. Ultimately it takes the Wyatt Earps to come in and clean up Dodge City. Jindal, Scott, Kasich, Perry, Walker, Christie … maybe, even Governor Brown.

          • D Parri

            Yeah, that’s why 10 of 32 financially troubled cities in the nation are located in California. Keep ‘em there…please.

      • Tim Ned

        To bad Clinton wasn’t in office; he would have pardoned this guy!

  • Wil

    Bernie, Bush came into office, with a budget surplus and by his own words “We are in the midst of a serious financial crisis” (President Bush’s speech on the financial crisis 9/24/08) and left with a shattered housing market and extremely low stock market. 6.5k anyone? Now, big business are posting record profits, DOW is doubled. Banks are lending again…and coming from 700k+ jobs LOST every single month to a gain of an average of 200k….I think Obama has done a great job, but don’t let facts sway your opinion.

    • D Parri

      It’s too bad that how he ‘accomplished’ those wonderful economic markers was by borrowing $8 trillion from the Chinese. Going into the hole for that much debt is not doing a “great” job. Ask yourself, where’s the money now, and where will it come from when it’s time to pay it back? If I was a young person who was forced to accept a personal debt of over $50k, I would be very upset. However, at least some folks like yourself can overlook the reality and be very happy with yourself.

      • Wil

        Clinton saved the country and the world from a deficit (which was promptly turned into tax cuts for rich people, by Bush) and were in power during the 90s boom, and the Obama saved the world from The Second Great Depression. Things aren’t perfect, but everything that’s wrong really just isn’t his fault.

        • D Parri

          He helped reduce a BUDGET deficit, not a national debt. The economy was robust but not due to Clinton any more than the Bush-bashers want to claim that all of Obama’s problems are due to Bush. I would be glad to debate whether Obama saved the world from a Second Depression, but the costs he has racked up have been memorialized for generations to come in the form of a doubled national debt. We are a weaker nation today by far.

          • Wil

            What did Bush do for the country, that was so great? I remember huge tax breaks for the wealthy and Bush started two wars. What do you remember?

          • legal eagle

            Don’t overwhelm these ideologues with facts…They don’t care about facts nor do they care that they are being screwed by the Republicans and by the 1%…
            This is the “ignorance is bliss” crowd who believe anything they hear on Fox News..

          • Jeff Webb

            You left out “bitter/white/old” and the Archie Bunker reference.

          • keith hart

            legal eagle, you really do swing after the bell, don’t you?

          • tim ned

            I remember that the Bush tax cuts was across the board and that the two wars had full support of both the house and senate. What facts are you talking about LA?

          • legal eagle

            90% of the Bush tax cuts went to 10% tax payers…hardly across the board? The two wars were supported by Congress…the approval was acquired based upon gross misrepresentation and fraud by the Bush administration..

          • Tim Ned

            You are playing numbers. The upper bracket dropped just under 5% and the lower bracket went from 15 to 10. Capital gains, dividends, and estates were cut and if you read the websites you read, they don’t explain that a wealthier person would probably benefit from the capital gains and dividends. Most of which are investments from taxable income. However I still don’t see how the nutty websites would come up with your math?

            Fraud? If you have proof legal eagle you’ll make history by convicting those that committed the fraud!! I suspect you use the word “Fraud” like the Olberman’s of the world. Using what ever term suits your bias without any evidence what so ever!

          • D Parri

            Legal Beagle is playing games–it is best to ignore him. He will continue his rant regardless of the issue.

          • legal eagle

            I’m not working as a U.S. Attorney so I cant indict anyone of anything…Bush ‘s estimates of the costs involved in Iraq and Afghanistan were fraudulent…Cheney and Rice’s statements regarding Iraqi nuclear capabilities were fraudulent…Bush’s assertion that Hussein posed an imminent threat to the U.S were fraudulent….
            Need some more examples?

          • legal eagle

            So Bush cut capital gains, allowed enough loopholes to be put into the tax code to virtually eliminate estate taxes and cut taxes on dividends? This was done to benefit who?

          • D Parri

            Uh, taxpayers?

          • Jeff Webb

            There was no dishonesty by the Bush administration on the reasons to go to war.

            There is dishonesty by YOU if you claim to know otherwise.

          • D Parri

            Get a clue–maybe someday?

            The top 1% of taxpayers paid as much in taxes as the bottom 95% of taxpayers. Now, they received less than 90% of the tax cuts? Sounds disproportional to me.

            Oh, BTW, the source? IRS data.

          • Jeff Webb

            You remember only wealthy people getting tax breaks, eh? You’re either a liar or your memory is defective.
            Interesting that my take-home pay went up soon after a Bush policy took effect, yet went down after an Obama policy did. BTW, my wife’s take-home pay went down twice due to Obama policies.
            Before you start with the obnoxious conclusions and dismissals, we’re not rich (barely middle-class in fact), and it was Obama’s design, not Republicans’, that cost us some take-home pay.
            Your guy ain’t the fiscal angel you think he is, and I can say from first-hand experience that he couldn’t care less about the 99%.

          • Wil

            You got crumbs, while the wealthy got cake!

          • Jeff Webb

            Wrong again. I got the same percentage back as the rich did.

            Seems like you either want a middle-class guy to get back a million dollars he didn’t earn if a rich guy gets back the same amount that he did earn, or you want the rich guy to get back the same amount as the MC guy did despite his earning way more.

            At what point did the rich guy lose his Constitutional right to equal treatment under the law?

          • Wil

            You got peanuts, that’s what you got! If it weren’t for Bush’s taxcuts and his two wars, we would be debt free today!

          • Jeff Webb

            Couldn’t respond directly to my point, could ya Slappy?

          • D Parri

            Warning, this person is playing games and attempting to sidetrack the conversation by calling others out. Ignore him.

          • Jeff Webb

            Oh, I’m very familiar with Wil, DP. I know the boy better than he knows himself.

            I’m a generous person by nature, and it’s heartwarming to me that I have many opportunities to give people like Wil a shot to end the ignorance in which they wallow.

            Granted, they usually repay the kindness by being petulant and mean-spirited (on the occasions they don’t flee altogether), but nothing worthwhile is easy.

            It’s all right; if Wil and the rest keep on failing to understand, my daughter has offered to help educate them when she gets home from kindergarten.

        • keith hart

          Unfortunately, when folks reflect back to the 90′s and wax poetic about Mr. Clinton they fail to acknowledge Mr. Gingrich was the defacto president.

          • Wil

            Didn’t the republicans run Mr. Gingrich out of congress! Defacto, my butt!

    • tim ned

      Actually let’s straighten out the facts one more time. When Clinton left office and Bush came into office the economy was starting to slow. Bush cut taxes and during his term set new records in revenues. Then 9/11. There is no policy, laws, bills, or otherwise passed during the Bush administration that caused the collapse of the housing market in 2008. Any reasonable and semi-intelligent person understands that the collapse was years of failure by both parties to see, recognize, and correct the situation. However, in credit to the Bush administration they did warn congress before the collapse. To criticize this administration for not doing enough may be appropriate. But the Barney Franks and others went out and actually promoted how well the housing market and lenders were doing months before the collapse.

      If you want to give Clinton credit for a balanced budge, then I trust you will also pass on that credit to Newt Gingrich? Not a chance for that I’m sure.

      • Wil

        I remember when Bush was telling the American people that the government had too much money, so he had to cut taxes. I also remember Bush starting two wars. (Not paid for) And, remember when Bush was asleep at the helm of our government on 9-11-2001. Your ‘facts’ are bullcrap!

        • Tim Ned

          Which one of my facts is bull? Please clarify! The one about the housing collapse, Gingrich; or are you saying there was no 9/11 that I bring up? I think the bull is out of you buddy!

          • Wil

            Buddy, Your entire post was bull!

          • Tim Ned

            Perhaps in your limited view point, but my entire post is factually correct!

            And Buddy, Can you just give in and give Gingrich a single line of credit along with Clinton for achieving a balanced budget? I give Clinton a lot of credit for that “great” achievement. All you have to say is yes or just say Yah. Or perhaps you just want to sit on your couch and blame the Republicans for all your problems.

          • Wil

            Timmy, Gingrich was, is and will always be a scumbag!
            .
            ’nuff said!

          • Tim Ned

            You’re right, you said nuff. Now get back on that couch

          • Lc Goodfellow

            Bumper stickers. You want to look for them,
            ” Monica Lewinsky’s X-Boyfriend’s Wife for President 2016 “

          • Wil

            She got my vote. You can vote for that Canadian Cruz.

          • Lc Goodfellow

            Just shows Bernard got it right, Put the dunce cap on and get in the corner.

            Always puzzled at the Diarrhea of the Vocal-cords.
            “Do you really “Eat with the same Mouth.” ?

          • Lc Goodfellow

            Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”

      • D Parri

        My advice is to let this ‘legal beagle, jr.’ make his comments and don’t reply. There are plenty of serious participants whereby you can engage a meaningful conversation.

        • Wil

          Yes, you are a member of Bernie’s ‘Clueless Americans’ you people never have a doubt.

        • legal eagle

          My advise to you sir is get some sleep and then be ready to discuss some facts not your ideological b.s.

          • D Parri

            BTW, that’s not a B.S., it’s a Master of Accountancy–a graduate degree based upon some very demanding rules, regulations, and pronouncements. Not an ideology.

      • legal eagle

        Bush’s tax cuts led to the collapse of the U.S. economy…Never, in the history of the U.S. has an Administration cut taxes while fighting one war, let alone two…
        Typical ideological remark about Clinton…no credit permitted only blame…The stock market has doubled under Obama…any credit given to Obama? No way….Where was Bush for 9 months before 9/11? Not sure…must have been Clinton ‘s fault….

        • Tim Ned

          You are absolutely wrong. The collapse of the economy was the housing market. It had nothing to do with the Bush tax cuts. This is your liberal myth you sell like candy to idiots. I guess the point of Bernie’s article here.

          I credit Clinton for the balanced budget but he worked with Gingrich and he was instrumental in getting this through congress. Can you give Newt a little credit? If I’m the ideologue you claim, why would I ever give credit to a Democrat? I also credit Clinton for welfare reform. But you can’t credit Clinton credit without Gingrich! Can you say the same. No because your the ideologue.

          The economy was slowing under the last year of Clinton and I don’t blame him for this. It’s economics! Under Bush we set new records in revenues. We may get back to some of those numbers next year if we don’t have another meltdown. Look up the facts!

          Do you invest in the stock market? I do. You’re calculation that the stock market has doubled is convenient fiction. The stock market has recovered! And I am one that didn’t sell off during the crash. I’m old enough to understand that things come back as I have seen it before. And I am finally getting back my retirement. This is a result of corporate America doing right things for their stock holders. I would be happy to give Obama credit for the stock market. All you have to do is name the policy or bill that made the recovery happen!

          My 9/11 comment related to the impact to our economy. Maybe you’re too young to remember but you obviously have no understanding of economics. For four days the skies, hotels, and car rentals were empty. For several years Americans didn’t travel for business or pleasure. I don’t blame Clinton, Bush, our CIA for 9/11. I blame the terrorists.

          But for you it’s convenient to blame someone that is your enemy. And it’s obvious that anyone that disagrees with you is your enemy!

  • veeper

    the united states of america has been brought down by a colossal bungler and his willfully ignorant, irresponsible, foolish voters….

    • Wil

      Yes, and we finally got rid of Bush and elected Obama. Happy days are here again!

    • legal eagle

      If the United States has been brought down then move…..

  • barry soetoro

    Remember BENGHAZI.

    Obamatollah’s treason, his betrayal, his sabotage…. are contained in BENGHAZI.

    Omomjeans abandoned 35 Americans to die. 4 of them went rogue and rescued the others, before getting killed.

    Osaudi has replaced Bin Laden as chief of AL QAEDA. Obama sends McCain/Lindsey to Syria, then Egypt, to supply AL QAEDA terrorists with funding and weapons.

    Opansy has a brother, MALIK OBAMA, who is CFO of the Moslem Brotherhood.

    This is why Traybama keeps floating distractions.

    • Wil

      How many died in embassy attacks during Bush?… 67.

  • Tonethousand

    Bernie, I completely agree with your editorial. Many of the things you have said and wrote, I have been commenting, blogging and passing-on many of these thoughts along to my own sphere of influence,along with a with a few thoughts of my own. One of my favorites is: “America will survive an Obama presidency, but we will not survive a citizenry foolish enough to make him our leader”. Orson Swindle, Admiral, USN (ret). Or, “at least my generation had the good sense to only elect Jimmy Carter once”. I like rubbing Obama supporters noses in that one every time I get a chance. However, Bernie as one curmudgeon to another, I believe like you and probably all the readers of your column that as population numbers go up, usually from coagulation in large DENSE population centers, collective I.Q. goes down. (Don’t believe me, drive on a crowded freeway in any metropolitan area) but, let’s leave the moral, spiritual, intellectual superiority thing to the leftists, like Bloomberg, Cholmsky and Hilary Clinton. I may be a curmudgeon, but I’m an average, run-of-the-mill, American curmudgeon, not a social elitist.

    • legal eagle

      You may be a bitter old white guy not a curmudgeon…You’re probably not a social elitist because you’re not wealthy or smart enough to be one,,

      • Tim Ned

        I don’t believe he is a bitter old white guy either. He’s pointing out the facts that more people are dependent upon welfare, average income for the middle class has dropped, we have no plan for a balanced budget, and our national debt will be over $20 trillion when Obama leaves office. And the only strategy by this president is that it’s the Republicans fault.

        I’m not sure if the nation can survive this presidency. Oh by the way; I will, I’m wealthy!!

        • legal eagle

          So you believe this administration is the cause of qa declining American economy, increased income inequality and increased corporate welfare?
          I would suggest you look at US economic data since 1980 and see the trend…I assume you wont look because in your world ideology trumps economic reality…

          • Tim Ned

            Yes, it’s this administration. Perhaps you better look at the data since Obama’s been in office. Better yet, analyse the period you bring up. But you’re true to your liberal bias. Name calling is all you have.

      • Tonethousand

        You got me pegged. Cause your a legal eagle(morally, spiritually and intellectually superior) and stuff! But you forgot three-toed, buck-toothed hillbilly. Sorry for “hitting a nerve”, and thanks for making my point for me.

        • legal eagle

          So as population goes up IQ goes down? Hopefully you don’t share these pearls of wisdom with your grandchildren….

        • D Parri

          Nice reply. As you can see leagle beagle has only one agenda and it has nothing to do with the issues discussed in Bernie’s article. Best response for this one and ‘leagle beagle, jr.’, also known as ‘Wil’, is to ignore them.

    • legal eagle

      Your sphere of influence? Who is that the guys at the retirement home?

  • D Parri

    Ok, if I may offer my two cents of wisdom…or in today’s economy…3/4 of one cent.

    Have you ever been one of the (apparently) millions of consumers who has purchased one of the latest and greatest gadgets from a T.V. hawker for $9.95? (or two for the amazing price of only $19.95!) I have not been one of those folks, but there have been scads of them–far past any ‘countability’.

    Now, are you a repeat buyer? I would venture that many of them have been.

    So, I would offer that with the correct sales pitch which appears to provide an item for which there may be an earnest desire amongst the masses to obtain, then a veritable fortune is out there for the taking. Unfortunately, there is never a ‘try and buy’ sales contract for the POTUS. Also, these type of buyers usually end up being repeat customers–regardless of the outcome from their last experience!

    • T Ko

      Now, why couldn’t we set up for a constitutional amendment that would allow a “trial period” wherein we could allow potentials for that–or other–office(s) a temporary go at the task and find out if they’ve got what it takes, or perhaps they’re just too banana-brained to stay. Would you want to call it the “Trust, But Verify” amendment?

      • legal eagle

        Because we have elections….but you probably knew that…

        • D Parri

          Really? You are SO smart!

    • legal eagle

      So only geniuses like yourself can resist the sales pitch? Amazing how your insight is so superior to the 60 million who voted for Obama?

      • D Parri

        As of May 2013, the count was 65,910,299 for Obama and 60,932,636 for Romney. So, my amazing insight was actually superior to over 65 million voters. However, I’ll have to admit that I share it with over 60 million voters. It doesn’t sound like you and I share this same characteristic though. It also proves my point that with the right sales pitch there are at least 65 million suckers out there for someone to take in.

        • legal eagle

          As well as 60 million morons who believe their interests are being represented by the Koch Bros and Rush Limbaugh..

          • Jeff Webb

            Three men, you apparently fail to notice, that (unlike Obama) have actually produced jobs and private sector business.

          • legal eagle

            I hate to break it to you but the only jobs governments produce are government jobs….ala George Bush

          • Jeff Webb

            I’m aware of that, champ.
            Please break it to Obama–he seems to think otherwise. That, or he thinks govt jobs are as good for the economy as private sector ones.

          • D Parri

            Unfortunately, though, they were outrun by the 65 million morons who elected Obama.

  • wyatt81

    Enduring willful, deliberate, proud-as-a-peacock stupidity in this country has been incredibly painful and irritating. And to watch these snakes in Washington and the media play it while smirking at the rest of us has been even more irritating.

  • jvnvch

    It’s a given that half the population is below the median in intelligence, and that important fact combined with the willful ignorance of some in the other half explains a lot.

  • OntheMark

    My memory did not serve me well. Yes, Ventura served one term. Still dumb. Watching the deconstruction of a once great nation (well, it still is).

    • legal eagle

      Oh I guess it was the geniuses that elected Nixon and Bush? Or perhaps it was Republican idiots who are still looking for WMD’s in Iraq?

      • Curt Parker

        Saddam’s WMD were trucked by the Russians prior to the American invasion to Syria’s Baca Valley. Google Tom Timmerman’s reporting on the subject.

        • D Parri

          Don’t worry about responding to that idiot–it’s easy to tell he has an inferiority complex. He keeps referring to Republicans and everyone that he criticizes as “geniuses”. It is obviously a comparative position he has to take when dealing with those whose insight is far superior to his own–they didn’t vote for Obama.

          • Curt Parker

            Thanks. I knew early on I was dealing with a deluded, liberal zealot (sorry for the redundancy), but I was trying to push him a little closer to reality. Millions of formerly happy-go-lucky libbies are sobering up to a bitter realization that their Messiah is a dithering dolt that has not only picked their pocket, but has diminished their security here and abroad. Thanks to Bush2 and Barry Soetoro, the American economy is in shambles.

          • legal eagle

            The economy is in shambles? More b.s. from the right wing cultists?

  • 633

    You forgot “parting the sea” or whatever the euphemism was he used to describe his impact on climate change. At any rate I must respectfully demur: Obama’s greatest asset is the national media, whose unprecedented sustaining support has made possible his exploitation of low information voters.

    • T Ko

      Hmmm, national media…H.L. Mencken…must be some parallels goin’ on here. Unfortunately, Mencken simply stated the obvious…and that weren’t good, ya’ll!

    • legal eagle

      And you are an informed voter? Why is that? Because you are white and can read?

      • Jeff Webb

        Seriously, you really need to get over the race obsession.
        If you think all the criticism is about Obama’s race, give some example of conservatives indicating they’d approve of these policies if Biden or Edwards were president.
        If it’s not about his race, what does it matter if we’re white? (The “old” angle is just plain idiotic. Neither I nor John Daly are senior citizens, unlike you.)

        • legal eagle

          Jeff,
          The vast majority of people on this site as well as the Fox News audience are white male seniors…..If you are not in this category you are in the minority….
          I believe race matters to many bacuase Obama received less of the white vote than Clinton or Kerry….Can you tell me your theory for this stat?

          • Curt Parker

            So disagreeing with Obama’s Marxist policies is racism?

          • legal eagle

            I did not call anyone a racist and if you infer then that’s your inference not mine…However, using such cliches as “Marxist” tells me your an ideologue, That’s what happens to many as they get older…. It’s a cheap talking point without any relevance.
            If you’re referring to Groucho or Harpo then perhaps I will have to watch Animal Crackers once again..

          • Curt Parker

            You brought up race and now you’re backtracking. Concerning Obama’s Marxist views, you need to read his book and pay more attention to his push to redistribute wealth. And what’s with your obsession with age? You must think it’s a disease.

          • legal eagle

            The US has had progressive tax rates since the income tax began….Redistribution of wealth? What do you think the Bush tax cuts were if not redistribution of wealth….Social Security is redistribution….Another cliché…
            You want the U.S. consumer economy to function with less and less people being able to be participate? You want corporate America to avoid taxation?
            Age is relevant because older people don’t look past the immediate future…just like Congress..

          • Curt Parker

            You seem confused about my money not being my money. My money is not the government’s money. The income tax is punitive and unconstitutional. I’m finished wasting my time with you.

          • legal eagle

            Oh I forgot…not only are you old and bitter you’re also totally self absorbed…..Why should you pay taxes?

          • keith hart

            legal eagle, no reason to get personally abrasive.

          • legal eagle

            You’re here protecting your fellow cult member?

          • keith hart

            legal eagle, Social Security is a trust account, not redistribution. At least it was established as such.

          • legal eagle

            It’s a trust account which the federal government can use as it pleases……legally you are correct , factually the money is part of the general fund…

          • keith hart

            which is completely contrary to the original intent. legal theft is still theft.

          • legal eagle

            Legal “theft” is not theft. The SS trust fund gets IOU’s from the government…..do you consider this problematical?

          • keith hart

            legal eagle, to contemporize to modern American political culture: how about moronic Alinsky ideology? Moronic because it is rife with cognitive dissonance, through and through.

          • legal eagle

            Wow, that a lot of big words….Alinsky would be impressed..

          • keith hart

            legal eagle, not much of a response. Unworthy of you. Surely you could insult me better than that. I suggest you Wikipedia ‘cognitive dissonance’. That will give you a solid grounding and a chance for you to catch up.

          • legal eagle

            Keith,

            What is your obsession with Saul Alinsky?

          • D Parri

            Let me try…he bought the election by increasing entitlement spending–’welfare’. Voters both white and black, brown, green and purple are more prone to voting for the candidate that will promise the most free goodies for the taking. Unfortunately, it is a losing strategy and it will kill our nation.

          • legal eagle

            As opposed to the Republicans who “bought” their votes via tax cuts for the wealthy, corporate welfare and being anti immigrant?

          • D Parri

            Why would the corporations mind if illegal immigrants filled their factories? The labor wage rates could then get back to some of the lowest in the world and they could compete with manufacturing produced in some of the third-world countries. Oh, what’s that you say? Yes, the government and labor unions would not allow it. I guess, then, that those American factory workers will need to continue to support the illegal immigrants or face losing their jobs and go on welfare as well.

          • legal eagle

            The Corporations don’t mind….The Right Wing Nut Jobs mind…It’s called a “wedge “issue…Same reasoning as the abortion issue….

          • D Parri

            You are correct in one comment, it is a “wedge” issue. But, true to form you are totally confused regarding the players. Corporations wouldn’t mind–it means more profits and greater marketability of their products by being able to produce at a lower cost and therefore making them more competitive. However, it has always been the labor unions who have teamed up with the Democrats–NOT Republicans–in securing minimum wage laws and increasing the costs of manufacturing to the long-term outcome of pricing the American worker out of the world labor market. That was what the exodus of car manufacturing plants was all about in the 80′s and beyond.

            So, throw the terms around carelessly and it only serves to prove how little you actually know what you’re talking about. Carry on, I’ll find someone to discuss this with who does understand it at least a minimal amount.

          • legal eagle

            Car manufacturing plants exited the U.S in the 1980′s? Which company and where did they go?
            If you are against minimum wage laws you truly have no concept on how the economy works in the U.S.A.

          • D Parri

            Congratulations! You have done a wonderful job of demonstrating the very point of Bernie’s article. You truly are clueless–even beyond my initial estimate. The good thing (I suppose) for you is that you are not alone!

          • legal eagle

            So you answer my question by calling me an idiot….In court I would object to your answer as non-responsive and the judge would say…Sir, please answer the question..

          • T Ko

            Wedgies are somethin’ this guy likes. Legal Weaser said he gets a hard-on for you…you better watch your back!

          • D Parri

            Also, the “vast majority” of black voters voted for Obama. If race does not matter to them, then can you supply some other explanation for that ‘stat’?

          • legal eagle

            And the vast majority of black, hispanic and asian voters voted for Obama…the reason? The Republican party is the party of white, southern, old and wealthy voters….

          • keith hart

            legal eagle, how vast is vast? Can you see them all the way to the distant horizon?

          • legal eagle

            I can…even without my reading glasses on….

          • keith hart

            Then you know they are real people and many. No matter how much you denigrate them.

          • Jeff Webb

            I’ll repeat: If you think all the criticism is about Obama’s race, give some example
            of conservatives indicating they’d approve of these policies if Biden or
            Edwards were president.

          • legal eagle

            I didn’t say all….It’s certainly a factor and I can’t answer a dumb rhetorical question….
            By the way, why do you equate being white with being racist? I don’t…I just believe you are in a bubble and have no clue about the real world out there…

          • Jeff Webb

            It wasn’t a rhetorical question and you’re not getting a pass.
            If you think there’s any, ANY racism whatsoever behind the criticism people here post about Obama, PROVE IT, and stop being a coward & answer the damn question!

          • legal eagle

            It is a hypothetical… How can one prove a hypothetical?
            As Biden and Edwards have not been elected your question is a nonsequitor…
            Would you like the specifics of those who have made racist statements? Do you want a well researched brief?
            If so, send me a retainer and I will have the brief prepared for you..

          • Jeff Webb

            Cop-out.

            You’re the one who said conservative opposition to Obama’s policies is in some part motivated by racism.

            Using your rationale or logic, how about an explanation how a conservative would support these policies if they were being pushed by a white man? Surely you could name a policy that generally got support from conservatives until the black man in the White House pushed it, can’t you?

      • veeper

        your boy is a bungler.

        no amount of your ranting, insulting and foolish arguing is going to change that….

        • legal eagle

          Previously he was a liar, a moron, a muslim and a racist…now he’s a bungler….I can imagine the things you called Bush…

      • Jeff Webb

        Interesting. Why do you say “WHITE and can read”?

        Look, I know you liberals think blacks are inferior to whites, but you’re wrong. See what you can do to leave people’s race out of your comments and focus on the matter at hand. If necessary, get help from your therapist, or a relative with the scruples you sorely lack.

        • legal eagle

          You are extremely sensitive to any mention of race…any particular reason you are so defensive?

          • Jeff Webb

            You are extremely repetitive in your mentions of white people here…any particular reason you are so obsessed with that?

  • Wheels55

    While there is enough stupid out there, it seems to me that many are just so loyal to a party (pick one) that electing a community organizer twice is very possible. So, what about all the independents that usually swing votes? They are either stupid, ignorant, both or they believe in fairy tales. I truly believe Obama is a fairy tale to many who voted for him.

    • legal eagle

      I believe your hallucinating…as usual….Amazing that only people who agree with you have any brains…

      • keith hart

        legal eagle, really now, I must insist. There is no reason to get personally abrasive. Have you no confidence in your ideas?

        • legal eagle

          Are you the abrasion police?

          • keith hart

            Yes

      • Wheels55

        Actually I know many smart people who do not always agree with me, you’re just not one of them.

    • D Parri

      I guess you might say that ‘the dreams of his father’ became the dreams of the voters. Another fairy tale.

  • Dennis

    It’s not that people are getting dumber, most of them were never all that bright to begin with. The problem is that far too many people, at least 60-70% (I think it is even higher than that) use their heads for little more than a convenient way to keep their ears separated. They don’t do much thinking at all. They base everything on how they ‘feel’, what they ‘believe’ and what they think is ‘fair’. And, this is hardly new. But if you are a liberal, this must be of great comfort to you since, once people start thinking rationally, liberal Democrats, and their policies and programs that never work because they are based on a touchy feely, feel good agenda, would become extinct. Then what would all of those slaves to government dependency do without feel good libs to take care of them.

    • legal eagle

      So you’ve done a survey and 60-70% of your friends and relatives do not think? I can imagine what they think of you…

    • keith hart

      Dennis, I never much cared for H.L. Mencken’s cynicism, although I enjoyed his humor. Mark Twain’s humor was deeper, however. As was his appreciation of ordinary folk’s savvy. I recommend, trust in Mr. Lincoln’s, “you can fool all of the people ……………..” It’s my experience, individuals are pretty sharp. It’s crowds that can behave stupidly.

  • Checker72

    I’ve been making this point for years; the country is increasingly stupid/ignorant. It marks the beginning of the end for this once great nation.

    • Curt Parker

      Once upon a time, I would have argued vehemently against your cynicism, but in the face of what this nation is experiencing now and with the expansion of the liberal voting base, I no longer have any optimism about this nation’s future. Pray every morning, noon, and night that God will forgive us our sins and redeem this nation.

      • legal eagle

        Well you have a choice…stay old and bitter or die…The next generation will do just fine without you..

        • Curt Parker

          Who said I was bitter? L. Eagle, you clearly have some issues. I’m old. What’s your problem?

          • legal eagle

            You are the one with the problem…You seem to feel you are better informed or smarter than others….This ridiculous premise of Goldberg makes people who agree with him feel they are better informed than those who don’t?
            Most importantly, in a democracy everyone has a vote…If you are more informed than some it’s because you are retired and have more time to watch Fox News..

          • Curt Parker

            So you’re condemning me for being 1. Retired. and 2. Better informed. Correct on both counts. You also appear to have plenty of time on your hands. Are you another jobless victim of Obama’s economy?

          • legal eagle

            Semi-retired and quite happy….How in the world do you know you are better informed? What subject are you better informed about?
            If Fox News is your source of news you are not better informed…

    • legal eagle

      If the country is increasingly stupid/ignorant you must be either stupid or ignorant?

      • Checker72

        Wow, witty reply. And you’re basing that on your extensive knowledge of me? That’s what I thought.

      • keith hart

        legal eagle, I am beginning to despair. Surely this is wry wit and not your logic at work. If, however, it is. Then I offer to you “Time flies like an arrow. But, fruit flies like a banana.” I’m sure this makes sense to someone like you.

  • dontbslow

    People must be getting dumber, because I was never this smart.

    • legal eagle

      You still are not too smart….don’t worry about it…

  • begbie

    If Obama was white, there would be a lesson to learn from his presidency……only elect experienced managers/businessmen/veterans to the highest office in the land–not community organizers or activists.

    But unfortunately, his being the first black president will overshaddow the failures of his 2 terms and I fear the uninformed masses will miss this lesson. There are many sad reflections that informed, intelligent people will make for a long time about this period of decline.

    • legal eagle

      So you are part of the informed few? Amazing how the old bitter men who comment on this site believe themselves to be informed and intelligent…

      • begbie

        Well, lets address that comment and other responses you made to other comments here. You made a lot of assumptions: 1. that I’m white, 2. that I’m old, and 3. that I’m bitter. The only thing amazing that I see is your handle, “legal eagle”. I can’t see that many assumptions made off the cuff coming from someone who might serve as legal counsel, but then again that is also an assumption.
        As far as my comment, it holds true with real observations and not assumptions. Unless you’re trolling, consider making a thoughtful counter arguement to further your point of view instead of blind insults. Some would take you more seriously here and in life. Good luck to you, friend.

        • legal eagle

          I am basing my assumptions on the demographic of those who follow people like Bernie Goldberg….Older people who are worried that things are changing and change is scary and bad…Tell me where I am wrong…

    • legal eagle

      Uninformed masses? What are you, part of the informed minority?

  • OntheMark

    I think Minnesota proved that years ago by voting Jesse Ventura in to office TWICE!!

    • Dennis

      Sorry, Minnesota only voted Ventura into office once. By the end of his term not only could he not win again but a solid majority wanted him escorted to the border and forced to leave and never allowed back.

      He should be a good lesson for people who vote with their feelings and not their heads. Once you vote some totally unqualifed knucklehead into office, the day after the election the damage is done and it’s too late for a do over. Something (one of the few things) His Majesty Emperor Barack understands all too well. It doesn’t matter what lie you tell to win, once the voting is over, the deal is done.

    • Otto Maddock

      I started to add Al Franken to that statement, but then I remembered that was due to those hundreds of absentee ballots “found” in the trunk of someone’s car—so I’m not necessarily blaming the “voters” of Minnesota for that one.

  • Jessesr

    First Back man to be elected twice to the highest political office in politics. On the surface it looks very impressive. Peeling back the layers however a different picture emerges. He is long on ideology short on leadership. He is a manipulator with words a salesman who sold a people a bill of goods. It did not help that a very liberal press help make the sale. He was never veted with the truth as he should have been from the start. So now America is being led by an amateur. A community organizer who is over his head on the world stage. America is to use a metaphor A SHIP WITHOUT A RUDDER.

    • DanB_Tiffin

      Did someone say “amateur”?
      The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House
      by Edward Klein

    • legal eagle

      Oh yes….not a leader like the great George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan…Reagan the great leader didn’t remember anything about Iran-Contra while Georgie W. was a great war leader….

    • D Parri

      Like I said, he’d make a good T.V. hawker, and with 65 million people out there willing to believe him he could make a fortune selling cheap $9.95 products. That was his real calling.

  • PhillipR

    Doubtless, we live in the age of the low information voter, which works to the Demos advantage in a big way. Just use the MSM to run your interference and interject whatever lies are necessary to get the job done. Remember the so-called “war on women”? Funny, how we don’t hear about it anymore. Well, actually, not until the next election when it is sure to be used again (or, something similar) for the low information masses. Yeah, it works. Indeed, “dumbed down” American democracy has never been more evident than in Obama’s re-election and it ain’t going away anytime soon.

  • HFH1

    It’s all about IQ, purely and simply. “They” have adulterated our population with millions of low IQ people. They now outnumber the people with reasonable intelligence; the people who Bill Buckley once said he would prefer to be governed by, rather than the faculty, e.g., of Harvard U. And, of course, “they” have given half the population so many freebies they don’t have to work any longer, and won’t. Plus the fact that “they” subverted the will of the Founders re who should be able to vote. That’s number one.

    • HFH1

      And I might add that “they” control the MSM and the sordid, filthy, culture, as well as Academia. That means “they” can point people from their birth towards idiotic, tyrannical, oppressive, liberalism and ultimately, communism.

  • Ksp48

    There are still people who claim to believe that Obama is very effective and doing a great job. They are predominantly young, black or ” liberal”.

    • steves_59

      Or just painfully stupid and out of touch.

      • legal eagle

        Are you referring to the “stupid and out of touch” people who watch Fox News or believe a word Bernie Goldberg says?

        • steves_59

          Oh, catchy. Pithy, witty, and urbane.
          Anyone who actually thinks Obama is effective and doing a great job is clearly out of touch. Stupid? Meh. Clueless, at a minimum.
          Have you read Democratic Underground lately? Guess not.
          Try it. You’ll find all the “stupid and out of touch” your fevered little mind can handle.

  • Perry

    As in generally go to many restaurants I find 90% of the workers there have no
    clue as to who their Governor,Senator, or even their own Mayor’s are. How can
    we expect them to be informed. Instead of increasing this society of internet and
    tweeting……….we should expect better educated population to further our great
    “Exceptional” country.

  • Susan Mack

    Sad but true, Bernie…the underinformed with liberals in control of our educational systems with no balance of ideas from conservatives are given 1 feed from all the msm. The young are fed the same slanted lines so what do we expect? What saddens me is that many adults do not WANT to hear anything different. It is a ‘don’t tell me or I may have to change my mind” attitude that scares me.

    • Drew Page

      I do not believe that the ‘dumbing down’ of Americans is a coincidence. Those who want our society to be dependent on government realize that it is much easier to be lazy than industrious, that it is easier to blame others for our failures than ourselves and that it is easier to be told how to do something than to learn how to do it. It is easier to say yes than no. It is easier to espouse moral relativism than to be judgmental. Those who want our society to be dependent on government understand that human nature dictates that people will gravitate towards that which is easy and away from that which is difficult. The lazy will envy and despise the industrious and will covet what they have. Those who want our society to be dependent on government will support this. They will tell the unsuccessful it is not their fault, but rather the fault of the successful. The people who do this call themselves liberals.

      There is some good news however. There are a large number of people who understand that being successful requires hard work and dedication. This is true in all fields of endeavor and successful people will teach this to their children. And even liberals will come to depend on the educated, hard working and successful people when they need help.

  • falcon7204

    Bernie, it ain’t just stupid people. It’s the people who prey on stupid people, who tell them they can vote multiple times, who tell them they be bein’ “oppressed” by “Da Man,” who keep them coming back in droves for freebies that you and I pay for. It’s the fraudsters and the hucksters and the ones who believe laws are only for the “little people.”

    People want to be smart. But when you treat someone like a child (or treat them like they’re stupid), they’re going to continue down that road.

    • PhillipR

      Very well said!

  • David Gorton

    Mencken was acerbic, to be sure. But where did that come from? Bitterness? Anger? I think not. I’m not a fan of his, too harsh, but he woke people from their qwest of acquisition, albeit too late too save the U.S. from the Great Depression.
    Perhaps that’s why his best years were 1918 to 1933.
    President Obama would give him fits because he lacked your sense of humor and irony. To say nothing for the voters that elected him-twice. Best Three Card Monty president we’ve ever had in the White House.

  • Neal from PA

    Obama is not a nice guy; he is obviously in over his head. Maybe we should be asking ourselves: why is America so ignorant? The progressive leftist thinking now dominates American society…from pre-school through ALL levels of education and in virtually all the print and electronic news media. It’s about values; the moral values that founded this great nation and allowed it to prosper and grow into the most free, progressive and powerful nation on earth. Progressive Liberals have incrementally and systematically rejected the moral principals upon which America was founded. As a result, our nation is experiencing unparalleled moral decay. National immorality flourishes when the heart and soul of a nation’s citizens reject these principles; decline in national morality leads to moral, political, and economic decay!

    Obama’s legacy…the President who killed America. The crime of the millennia…Obama…What Obama has done and how he has done it is UN-American and UN-Constitutional. The problem is that elected representatives on both sides of the aisle don’t care whether America has a sleeper in the White House or not. The question we should ask ourselves is “Why don’t they care?” After all, Obama has said that he is a “spy behind enemy lines”.

    • falcon7204

      As the headline indicates, stupid people are Obama’s best friend. So it’s obviously his job to make more of them.

    • PhillipR

      I remember during the last campaign an African-American friend of mine commented to a friend of his Facebook page: ‘Why are you voting for Romney? Don’t you know you’ll lose your food stamps!’ I thought this remark was interesting. It showed me a side of America so bizarre in its thinking as to be shocking. Instead of voting for a job creator, the answer is to vote for the guy who is sure to maintain your unemployment!

  • FloridaJim

    Since the 60′s the schools have been taken over by radicals like Bill Ayers who have indoctrinated our children for decades in the mantra of Progressives where America is the problem everywhere and should be broken down and rebuilt as a new Marxists country, better than any previous Marxist country, of course.
    The schools at every level now indoctrinate our children to accept a big government , high tax, low moral country as being a “good thing”. Political correctness where no one is evil anything goes morality is a personal issue and accountability is never imposed. When we see the result of this madness I believe the country will return to a small government low tax country or it is lost. Every one of us must decide which do we want and in 2014 make that decision of the Obama’s win and America, and the world loses. Without America there is no freedom anywhere! Opportunity for all. everyman can be a President or a millionaire where else is that possible?

    • Drew Page

      How ironic, the radical protesters of the 60′s despised government and wanted the freedom to do anything they wanted. Many of these same protesters are today in government preaching that only government is the answer to everyone’s problems and that people should have only the freedom to do what the government says is best.

      • legal eagle

        The radical protestors of the 60′s wanted the Vietnam war to end…The Tea Party nut jobs despise government….I think you’re confused…

  • msgmak

    I agree there are many stupid people among us however I believe you must add “lazy” people to the stupid group which end up making the majority of people who voted for the king the second time around. Bernie, I know you’ve been around long enough to know there are a lot of smart lazy people running around this country.

    • kkmail

      Add 50 million poor Mexicans add another 20 million poor blacks and another 30 million good ol boyz from the south and then add 40 – 50 million Obam bam thinkers and then 10 -15 million lazy folks and I suggest most of you boyz move !! You will never win, to many…

      • Kathy Carlson

        I must disagree with your “30 million good ol boyz from the south”. I have lived in the south for many years and I can guarantee you that almost all of those 30 million are conservative in their thinking and voting. Many of us southerners are college educated and conservative leaning. The “south bashing” gets a little old. I agree with Bernie that there are a lot of not so bright people in this country.

        • legal eagle

          Many in the South are college graduates and many are dumb rednecks who care most about college football and drinking beer….That’s why the Southern states are last in education, health care and income…

    • begbie

      One of the funniest T-shirts I ever saw said, “Procrastinate NOW!”

  • David Isler

    If PBO existed in a vacuum, this commentary would have more validity.

  • Roadmaster

    If there was a Ted Mack Amateur Hour for politicians, Obama wouldn’t make it through the first audition. Oh sure, he’s a big liar, but not a good one. He blurts out stupid lies which anyone with a lick of sense can spot in a second. FDR & Reagan were both head and shoulders above the bumbling Obama when it comes to political acumen, but neither had anything like 100% of the media that Obama and his co-conspirators enjoy. I believe Bernie has estimated their support is worth up to +15% at the polls.

    Now, if there was a contest for deceptive, delusional, narcissistic, Marxist, sociopaths who are also scofflaws and America haters, Barry-boy would be tops.

    Historically, many Americans have been collectively ignorant and easily manipulated, but with Leftist’s utter control of education, “news” media and entertainment, these people have become the majority. They are different in that they don’t want to be left alone to pursue the American Dream – they’re taught that Nanny-State gubmint can satisfy all of their needs.

    Score big for the Dhimmicrats, and shame on the Weepubicans for being the wimpy Washington Generals VS. the Harlem Globetrotters – perpetual, intentional losers, some even going over to the other team occasionally to help them score.

  • davewin

    I think you are too harsh on yourselves. As an “outsider” whose son and his family live among you, I think you have missed the greatest question of all. Where are the Leaders in the World of the 2010′s? There are none. This is because the Political processes have failed us all. The Leaders of our countries are interested in self, and in self indulgence. When in 1939 New Zealand sent her only Division to help Britain in the Second World War, it was because we knew the War aims, we agreed with them, and in turn our Leaders had carefully explained to us the objectives, and the costs. And we had agreed in advance to the Butchers’ Bill. Today these decisions are made in New York or Genera, but those who make them will never face a vote, and if they do they will simply ignore or twist the outcome to suit. The issue is not Nerve Gas, it is war itself. What does it matter to a corpse whether it was produced through Gas or machine gun. Look for Leaders. Encourage Duty, Faithfulness and Steadfastness, and then we may rest secure that we have passed the flag of our ancestors to the young generations to come.

    Their inheritance right now and world wide is miserable.

  • Nicholas344

    “He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.” ~ Alexander Hamilton
    Have you noticed that America no longer stands for anything. It has lost its principles, values, and ideas that made America a great nation. If we no longer stand for anything, America will fall for anything, What is more natural than electing someone like Obama who wants to transform America into statist slavery since we’ve forgotten and no longer support the intent of America
    to sustain a free people.

    • steve

      Y did Rome fall?? Y did the farows fall?? Y did Germany get so strong,,during hitlers time?? in human desires people want as much shelter,,food,,and have as many up to date items that are avalable with in there power that they can pull there way,,even if it steps on as many people,,or even 1 person to satisfiy there desires,,and sometimes at all costs,,of others welfare..We are now where they been..Y..Look at the state of the world..the middle east is a ticking time bomb,,yes thats been there for ever,,correct..Look at the weather around the world?? The SUN is doing things that are not normal..THE INTENCITY OF THE WEATHER IS MOVEING ,,STRONGER,,& STRONGER..We came very close to a SUN storm that missed our orbit very closely,,3 weeks ago..But also no report of it came out of the media,,until 2 weeks later,,on DRUDGE REPORT.. Storms that havent been in places before,,are now expereancing activity,,like never before..If we experence 1 of these storms we will be in the 13th century,,the electrical grid around the world will be destroyed..Example..It snowed in a place in Africa,,thats is the dryest place in the world,,it never gets a tenth of a inch of water year round..And it snowed there??The state of Colorado is in a one of the wetest August,,and September ever…The floods in N.Jeresy,,N.York,,last year,,became the perfect storm for the eastern sea board,,last year..HOW MUCH CAN U STEAL,,& HOLD IN YOUR HANDS THAT IS TAKEN FROM ANOTHER PERSON..??The murder rate in this country is at an all time high..there are murders in all of the USA..some that never make it to the TV..& to do good for others,,is looked as,,what is that person doing,,or trying to get away with??? After Sept 11th,,in 01,,there were people in NEW YORK that were doing things for others like NEW YORK never seen before..The Presidents poll rating was 80% or higher,, people wanted to reach for HOPE HIGHER,,& HIGHER AS THEY NEVER DID BEFORE..That is not in N.York today..People do not like war..TRUE..But if u look a passive outlook,,brings hardship..But in order to have peace,,we sometimes have to get the bad guys,,to bring order back..Same reason we have Police.. I do not want to live in Colorado,,not because of the weather..but because anyone can be stoned at anytime of day,,or job,,or drive,,or care for a family..its better to be incontrol,,than out of control..im not perfect..by any means..But i do know GOD excest..Some say if it were true y would he let happen,,happen..1 to teach u and I,,AND THE WORLD A LESSON..THAT INCLUDES all the people that have been on this blue marble..When people really look down DEEP WITHIN THEMSELFS,, & help each other,,they aquire more for them selfs,, things down the road happen,,in a possitive learning expereance..When a doctor dose surgery,,he gose to the deepest part he needs to go,,in order to fix the problem..He dose not leave some of it just to finsh,,& so he can take a break,,or make the person come in latter,,to finish the job,,because he values his break more than cureing the indivudle…its been 2013 years that have gone by..What has happened during that time..??? ALOT…DO WE WALK AWAY AND SAY WE DID WHAT WE COULD?? OR WE WERNT WORTH IT?? Were all conected..People have realitives close,,far,,girls,,boys,,brothers,,sisters,,parents,,grandparents,,great grandparents,,& so on…IF we do better than Rome,,& the Farows..hitlers people,,or just being out for only for ourselfs,,life dose work out better by putting your brain to possitive movements,,than destructive work..GOD will bless us with better future in time ahead,,that he see’s is in order.. HIS TIME IS THE RIGHT TIME….its better TO BE INCONTROL,,THAN BEING OUT OF CONTROL..MAY HE BLESS US ALL…STEVE

  • TJ Goforth

    Never underestimate the number of people who prefer Santa Claus to self
    reliance. Never underestimate the Demoncrats ability to steal elections. (I was
    born and raised in Chicago, I know how they roll). Never underestimate the Demoncrats “talent” for protecting their own – they will do ANYTHING to cover
    the mistakes, lies or corruption of another Demoncrat. Never discount the role of the press in their ability to influence the electorate. Yes, we have dumb
    bunnies in this country, but we also have far too many citizens who do not pay attention and/or vote on pure emotion. Perhaps if we the people would hold our elected officials accountable, circumstances would actually improve. (What a concept!)

  • Chris Matthewson

    As I predicted in response to a recent column, “Bernie and most of his conservative following on this website don’t have a clue as to what to do. Yet, I have no doubt that, whatever the President ultimately decides to do, the vast majority of [those on this site] will decide that he made the wrong choice. As for what Obama should do: He should use Russia and others to divest Assad of all his chemical weapons. If Assad complies, we should not attack. If Assad refuses, then we should inflict a painful attack on Assad’s military that significantly weakens but does not destroy Assad. In other words, a measured response. Also, we will need to prepare to take stronger, additional measures depending on how Syria (and others) respond to our initial intervention.”

    I’m sad that the first part of my prediction has come true, but am happy that the second part also appears to be happening. Persident Obama and SOS Kerry deserve kudos for navigating between the shoals of Scylla and the maelstrom of Charybdis, by which I mean the McCain warmongers and the Republican Congressional Hawks-turned-Doves.

    • keith hart

      Muslims, a stiff-necked lot. Pridefully dismissive of their own
      failings. While harshly — cruelly,
      even –judgemental of the failings of others.
      They are in store for alot of pain — a lot — of self-inflicted pain.
      Until they are revulsed by it all.
      Unfortunately, their revulsion threshold is very high — for now. Dumb bombs on their way to seek mercy from
      Iblis. A morbidly vile willingness to
      kill their own children. They have pridefully
      set upon themselves the burden of much self-inflicted pain. Let us stop doing Muslim fighting for them. No one
      kills Muslims more readily, more generously, than other Muslims. Do you suppose
      they hate each other? We stay out — more than willing to give them all a decent
      burial — regardless of sect or faction. Syrians
      killing Syrians. It’s Old Milwaukee
      time.

    • Drew Page

      And when we inflict that painful attack, what are your plans when Syria or Iran retaliate against Israel? What are your plans if Russia decides to retaliate against the U.S.? When Russia supplies Iran with the missiles to launch their nearly complete nuclear weapons against the U.S. or its ally Israel, how do you propose the U.S. respond? What would you suggest our “measured response” should be, a massive pre-emptive strike against Russia? Would you prefer to wait until Secretary Kerry makes another off the cuff remark for our solution?

  • Concernedmimi

    Absolutely mind-boggling but how can you blame some of them when they are being treated like mushrooms, ie being kept in the dark and fed bs by the corrupt lame-stream media.

    • Drew Page

      Are you talking about American citizens?

  • gold7406

    free phones, the expansion of food stamps, legalization of medical marijuana.
    the poor don’t care about being poor anymore, they just wanna be happy. the progressives have facilitated lifelong dependency and stripped the dignity away from many future generations.

    • DanB_Tiffin

      Welfare cash for families
      Section 8 housing vouchers for house/apartment rent
      Food Stamps for food
      WIC Extra food for Women With Infant Children
      Medicaid for medical coverage
      HEAP Emergency Heating payments
      Reduced price or free school lunches (and breakfasts) for the kids
      Refundable child income tax credits for people who pay no income tax anyway.
      Obamaphones

      And Now Obamacare!

      this below from Walter Williams:
      helping your fellow man in need by reaching into your own pocket is praiseworthy and noble.
      helping your fellow man by reaching into someone else’s pocket is worthy of condemnation.

  • Lc Goodfellow

    2013; Things to Come.
    In my opinion,
    Class Warfare, Unions, Obamacare, and Big Government – and the higher taxes that will come with it. The rich will clearly be paying more, along with everyone else. You can’t make the rich poorer without making the poor, poorer.
    Let me be the first to say,’Pay up Sucker !’

    Obama has indeed fulfilled at least one campaign promise, he has “fundamentally transformed America.”

  • paulbopko

    So true and so sad!

  • MrMwThLwn

    “Andy was shrew;” in the first paragraph. And the photo beside shows a misspelling too. Coincidence, hmm?

  • faxxmaxx

    I suppose we can all use a little humor these days.

  • Joseph Papalia

    Was it Winston Churchill who said, Democracy will have to do until somethng better comes along.”

  • smorkingapple

    Given that 99% of people posting on this site, including the owner supported the Bush war blindly, I think it’s safe to say your credibility on these topics is shattered. Honestly, reading any criticism from you cats on how Obama handles a very complicated situation is like listening to the Black Hebrews in Times Square rant. You’re at that level folks.

    In response to Peter Wehner’s “Obama has collapsed” article. No he hasn’t. Obamacare gets implemented in 2 weeks. Can anyone name the legislative losses FDR suffered before New Deal got implemented? Thanks…..

    And now Bernie thinks the masses were stupid for electing a President twice. Welcome to 2004-2008 bro.

    • Lc Goodfellow

      Why are so many of today’s followers’
      ” …. educated beyond their intelligences … ” ?

      • PatrioTom

        It’s in the Kool-aid!

    • Jen

      Keep making your assumptions smorkingapple. That is what Liberals do. No facts are necessary. One difference between the parties that most people don’t talk about is that if a Republican politician doesn’t represent their base, or breaks the law the rest of the party doesn’t put blinders on and support and lie to cover for them. No one has ever said W. Bush was perfect. Far from it. Why do you think John McCain lost and well as Bob Dole. Republicans, I should say Conservatives would not support and vote for Democrats calling themselves Republicans.

      Did you ever think about what hypocrites you Dems are by supporting Obama’s bombing and threats to Syria? What happened to your anti war stance? Funny how John Kerry called the military “rapists and Killers” now wants those same people to carry out his will against Syria.
      Take your blinders off. Obama will go down as the worst president in history. If people are brave enough to say it.

    • Drew Page

      “… how Obama handles a very complicated situation,,,” ?? We have seen how Obama handles a very complicated situation, it’s called Obamacare; he never read it. We have seen how he handled Benghazi; he arrested a video tape maker. We have seen how he has created new jobs; they are all part-time. We see how he has created our national energy policy; he has stopped the Keystone PIpeline and has shrewdly invested in Solyndra.. We have seen how he has united and inspired the people of America; he has given them free cell phones. We have seen how he has handled terrorism he calls it ‘workplace violence’.
      We have seen how skillfully he has lured the unsuspecting Russians into his trap of saving Obama from himself and deciding our foreign policy for us.

      • Jen

        EXCELLENT POST!

    • lark2

      Why is it that what anyone says is judged as invalid if they voted Republican or watch FOX NEWS or supported the Iraq war etc. What is the background that one needs to have in order to speak ?

  • Iklwa

    I heard it described as ‘lurching from one crisis to the next”.
    I think we should give more credit to Lurch.
    I am but a young man of 60 but have already been greatly disappointed by the American voter numerous times. We whine about the insignificant and elect the incompetent and then complain about the results.
    I don’t see myself as bitter or pessimistic.
    I do see my self as hopeful but ever mindful of the electorate’s penchant for stupidity. I suppose that makes me realistic.
    One clue: I am always surprised by the statement that Americans don’t begin to pay attention to politics until after labor day…in a Presidential election year.
    Politicians prey on the stupid electorate and judge we get what we deserve.

    • Drew Page

      Before you start blaming all of us for the fiasco of Obama, realize this, millions of us, but not quite enough, voted for the other guy. We didn’t get what we deserved.

      • Iklwa

        Sorry Drew,

        I know that there was a contingent of the electorate that did not vote for Obama.

        Sadly, it’s a little like the Titanic. We are all on the same ride even if we didn’t make the decision to put the hammer down, in the dark, in iceberg waters. The cold, cold water doesn’t differentiate between those who would have erred on the side of caution and those who cried “Damn the Torpedoes…”

        Given a few years of reflection of the other choice and his continued idiotic commentary on national politics, I sometimes wonder if McCain had won the election if we wouldn’t be in a very similar situation to that in which we find ourselves this day…treading water and trying not to freeze or drown.

        Iklwa

  • Dave Bufalo

    “Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.”

    Which is why our founding fathers created a republic and not a democracy.

    • ted

      But our Republic has little separation of power. The media is the power.

      • Otto Maddock

        Yes, journalism has followed the typewriter into obsolescence. But something I never understood is how the elite media became so one-sided. And the limousine liberals of Hollywood seem so hypocritical to me. What we need is a separation of stage and state.
        I’ve been wondering how it got this way. I never noticed it before—or, I should say, I never paid attention to it until the ’08 election when it became so blatantly obvious. I read Bernie’s book Slobbering Love Affair and can understand the infatuation with electing the first black president for historical purposes (despite a lack of qualifications). But I was genuinely surprised by the media’s anti-conservative stance, especially when it came to what Bernie refers to as the Palin Derangement Syndrome in his book.
        I haven’t read Bernie’s book Bias because it’s over 10 years old and I believe the situation is far worse now. But if readers of this board feel Bias represents a good summary of why the media is the way it is, please post so and I will certainly get it.

    • begbie

      That is an important point here…we are not simply a democracy, where policy is dictated by the mob. A republic is what we are…laws made by a group of Americans who are democratically elected to serve the voters’ interests.

      Our problem is the mob is electing bad stewards of our government. I was always against term limits for congress, believing in the founders intent to give the people the choice to keep the ones they like as long as they like. However, it’s become clear that the founders never knew our people could become so distracted and , most importantly, willingly uninformed. The Kardashians, Justin Beiber, American Idol, and “twerking” have become the hot topics that folks have decided are more important to know everything about. I think it’s time for term limits, somehow.

      • Drew Page

        It’s past time for term limits. I agree with Mark Levin and that which he calls for in his book, “The Liberty amendments”. NO one should be able to serve more than eight years per lifetime in any elected office. Further, All elected lawmakers should be subject to all the laws that apply to the rest of us.

  • MontanaMade

    That is correct- there is NO shortage of stupid people in this land of fading liberties. As evidenced by the fact that Obama was elected in the first place!

    And Americans everywhere are trading liberties for security every day- not realizing that their own security is being threatened by the very people that are begging to protect them! It’s a mafia mentality- “You need our protection- from US!”

    We keep digging a deeper and deeper hole- and all we’re doing is asking for a bigger shovel, wondering if going down faster will get us back to the surface! This is what happens when we do not elect the right people to make the laws we follow- they make BAD laws and put us into the hole- and we just ask for more of the same.

    Yes, America has NO shortage of stupid people…

    • Drew Page

      I believe the minorities, the unions and those who depend on government aren’t stupid, they knew what they wanted and they voted for it. Perhaps the really stupid are those “conservatives” who stayed home during the last election because they felt Romney was not conservative enough.

  • keith hart

    Is Putin to be
    believed? I don’t mean his credibility.
    Watch him on the news. Does he seem a
    little peculiar, I mean personally? But,
    after all he is leader of a people where abnormal personality disorder is the
    national character. Don’t believe
    me? Then why is alcoholism the Russian
    national character? I suppose living
    under seventy years of marxist terrorism can do that to a people. Still and all, as the maxim goes, ‘the enemy
    of my enemy is my friend’. So,
    who is the enemy you may ask? God help us if you have to ask. Obama.
    The amount of damage and pain he has caused the American people with his
    moronic Alinsky ideology makes him so. A
    rigid adherence to an inherently failed ideology: cognitive dissonance through and
    through. Five years into his term,
    minorities are severely worse off than before he took office. So are young people. The dwindling of the “middle class” is
    accelerating. Obama’s “Transforming
    America” is to that of a third world country. The rich accelerate their wealth, while all
    the rest of us are on the road to deprivation. So, who benefits? Certainly, Obama does personally. So does his crew: the leftist sc3mbaggers burrowing into the
    prosperity of Washington, D.C. like
    Alabama ticks. Don’t overlook big banks, sitting on vast piles of reserves
    while the Fed pays them interest on it — of course, very little gets into
    circulation. A sweet deal, even better
    than the carry trade. So, Putin runs rings around
    Obama, displaying who is the master
    politcal manipulator and who is the neophyte fool. And here Obama thought he was the smartest
    guy in the room. That comes from a lifetime of being cocooned
    in the warm embrace of liberal white racism.
    The most insidious kind of racism:
    the soft bigotry of low expectation.
    Doors have been opened for Obama all his life, without even having to
    break a sweat. That, I suppose, would
    lead many to believe they were the smartest guy around. No wonder he carries an air of entitled,
    narcissistic arrogance. I guess Obama
    is finding out the truth now. Yul
    Brynner, ‘The Magnificent Seven”, tests the young gunslinger: clap hands
    — draw. The kid humiliated leaves in a
    rage. Who do you suppose Putin is, Obama
    is? Obama
    draws a redline. Now, the whole world
    sees him for what he is. So do the
    people of his own country. And it didn’t
    take much effort on the part of the former KGB chief of Petersburg. So, are we to go to war to save Obama’s face
    or is it 3ss? They have become
    indistinguishable at this point. It
    is my deepest hope to see Obama take the Nixon walk. Waving from the open door of a helicopter
    just before it takes off from the South Lawn, flying Obama away from a
    disgraceful resignation. For the damage
    and pain he has delivered to his own people, he deserves far better
    justice. But it will do. I would hope the nation has learned its
    lesson: ‘we won’t make that mistake
    again — voting for a guy because it feels good’. There has got to be some substance, some
    resume. I am fully aware that leaves the
    clown Biden. But, Joe has no ideology
    — never has. Biden has always been
    available to the highest bidder. That
    makes him a guy who plays ball. Never
    forget part of our American exceptionalism is we have the best politicians in
    the world money can buy.

  • Cliffy44

    The a-hole @barackobama’s Greatest Asset: Clueless Americans
    Or what Rush calls Un-Informed voters.
    I call them “Responsible Morons for the freaken mess that we’re now in till that lying corrupt kenyan monkey is removed, by whatever means necessary”.

    • dktrdktr

      – “by whatever means necessary” — sounds pretty radical. Please don’t talk like this. This kind of talk makes you more dangerous than the halfwits that elected him. As damaging as his presidency has been, removal by any means other than impeachment, resignation or expiry of this term of office would be very damaging to the republic — doing even more damage than he has accomplished so far. We are blessed to have a country where we change administrations without violence. With any luck, after the 2016 midterm elections, he will be politically neutered

      • joepotato

        Where have you been…? We no longer have a representative republic. Want proof…? Send a letter to one of your dung wads in DC explaining about Osamabama’s phony LFBC and any number of impeachable scandals and see what you get back. We can no longer claim the rule of law… AND it’s very doubtful that “voting” will fix what’s been broken… The level of corruption in govt is so unbelievable, most people don’t believe it. The game is rigged and the deck is stacked…

      • Lc Goodfellow

        There here ! The bumper sticker to look for.

        ” Monica Lewinsky’s X-Boyfriend’s Wife for President 2016 “

      • Cliffy44

        dktrdktr, I reiterate – Especially after reading JoePotato’s comment; and laughing at the ridiculousness of any claim that “Ms. What Difference, At This Point In Time Does It Make”; the ever contemptuous and murderous (Not JUST James Foster, anymore) Schrillary would ever have enough “Irresponsible, Brain-Dead Morons” to even have her become successful at receiving the dem nomination; as if her competition’s (Monica Lewinsky) boyfriend is any indication of the desparity and general sense of “F’ed-upness” that America was suffering through; and barely enduring during Slick Willie’s lying regime, I can NOT begin to imagine a regime worse than the current Un-evolved Orangutan-In-Chief, that we are now barely surviving; BUT, I’d bet Monica’s blue dress that a Hillary gestapo regime would be even worse than the Kenyan’s that will end, as soon as possible (as I said before) “BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY”.

        Do you think that James Woods would have voted for Schrillary?

        AND, I think that America would prosper from anything that removed the Community Organizer; as even having “Stupid Joe” as interim president, until a special election could happen would be head over heels better than the Muslim piece of excrement, who’s currently trying to destroy every aspect of America, through his current terroristic Jihad against America. AND, at least Stupid Joe is constitutionally eligible to seek and to hold the office of president of the United States. I just think that his intellect and his ability to convey his Captain Video Space-Cadet brain farts (better known as brain-obamanations) would limit his time to interim president, for as short of a time as it took to organize a special election; with a Federal Voter ID law in effect. Did you know that Governor Romney did not lose any state that had Voter ID in effect, during the 2012 election?

        So, we need to be rid of the self-ordained Messiah, who believes, along with many, that he’s America’s first dictator.

        Me? – Well, I think that he’s confused the term “Messiah” with the term “Mess of rancid dog-obama” (same difference); and we need a pooper-scooper to rid America of all of his unadulterated bull-obama (again, same difference).

    • begbie

      Your comment is counter-productive. You are neither a conservative or a constitutional minded person with a comment like that. Include yourself among the uninformed.

  • w

    Obama is the worst President in history and maybe the last

    • delble

      He’ll try his best to ruin America, no doubt.

  • Wil

    Bernie: “So why do I think that if he were constitutionally able to run for a third term, despite everything, there’s a good chance he’d win?”>>

    Hey, Bernie, maybe it’s because of the lame candidates of the Republican Party. Ever think about that? Oh nevermind!

    • dktrdktr

      Wil, you are correct. Unfortunately, we cannot blame our present predicament entirely on clueless voters. The Republican establishment bears a lot of the blame as The Republican Party Establishment Is Bankrupt: Philosophically, Intellectually, Morally, and Spinally.

      The Republican Party is bankrupt philosophically. They have no internally consistent governing philosophy. I challenge anyone to state
      in fifty words or less what the Republican Party stands for in positive terms – free market economics and individual rights? Get serious – the Republican Party supports neither except by lip service.

      The Republican Party is bankrupt intellectually. They nominated Mitt Romney, John McCain and a non-entity from Kansas. They dance to
      the Democrat’s tune; they get snookered every time. They invade Iraq and think: it won’t cost a dime; oil revenue will pay for everything; and Iraq will suddenly become a liberal democracy while Iraqis will be forever grateful to us for ridding them of Saddam Hussein.

      The Republican Party is bankrupt morally. They do not stand for what they pretend to stand for. They are no more the party of small government than Anthony Wiener is the soul of discretion. Government inexorably grows under Republicans at a ridiculous speed – only slightly slower than the break-neck speed of Democrat administrations. The Republican establishment silently watched the Democrats suppress the TEA Party with endless IRS inquisitions. In 2012, they didn’t need the help of those bumbling zealots who actually had a consistent ideology that reached the American public. All Romney had to do was show up and say “I’m not Barack Obama and the economy stinks.”

      The Republican Party is bankrupt spinally. They completely lack the backbone required to make a stand on anything. Whenever a
      Republican “leader” works up the nerve to stand on principle, at the first New York Times’ front-page editorial accusing them of shutting down the government or treading on the rights of the poor or being reckless with the full faith and credit of the United States, they abandon their supposed principle, fold their tents, and slink off whimpering: mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. The Republicans are no more going to capitalize on the “phony scandals” of Ben Ghazi, the IRS, widespread domestic spying than O.J. is going to find the real killer. .

      • Lc Goodfellow

        “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

        ARE YOU KEEPING SCORE ? I have, this is what the record show’s.
        Congressional Control: for 62 years
        U.S. House: 1951-2013, Rep. 9 times, Dem. 22 times. Two year terms
        U.S. Senate: 1951-2013, Rep. 10 times, Dem. 23 times. Six year terms
        Need help with the math?
        How did we ever get to where we are today?

        Count it over!

        • Wil

          Do you have a count of the presidential terms, in the last 62 years?

          • Lc Goodfellow

            Yes, Rep. 6 vs Dem. 5
            it’s about Congressional Control for 62 years.
            If your having trouble with the count, that counts, try taking off your shoes.

          • Wil

            Are you aware of the power of the veto? Apparently not.

    • nickshaw

      It has nothing to do with the candidates, lame or otherwise.
      It’s the sheer stupidity of Skeeter’s base, uninformed voters of both parties and a bit of voter fraud.
      The fact that the LSM will go out of their way to dig up, make up or relay dirt from the Dim machine on the Republican is a given.

      • Wil

        Have you watched Fox and listen to right-wing radio?

    • Lc Goodfellow

      The problem for Obama was that he always believed the most ludicrous version of Storybook Man. He once told a reporter, “You know, I actually believe my own [bovine excrement].” Now, isn’t that special?

    • George Williams

      Mencken was right. Hope is ever enduring and the Democrats are the masters of hope with promise of change that never comes. And P.T. Barnum was right, there is a sucker born every minute. Try as they may, Democrats and the Planned Parenthood aren’t quite efficient enough to abort every one of their adherents.

  • Shane

    You can not underestimate the ignorance of the Obama voter. Most of them had no idea that Obama had added $5 trillion to the national debt. Many of them voted for Obama because they knew he would give out more free stuff than Romney would have. Sad for America.

    • MontanaMade

      sadly, you are right on the money-Mitt would have balanced the budget and yes, made some serious cuts. The budget would have never gotten through the Congress, but at least he would have made the attempt. AND, Mitt would be handling the world a lot better than BHO is…

      Obama “bought” the election with free phones- among other things…

    • Lc Goodfellow

      Thank you,
      Like Wil liv, vst, daw, etc, etc.

    • Lc Goodfellow

      Romney’s Bain
      Capital invested PRIVATE MONEY in:

      AMC Entertainment – 1500 Theaters, 18,550 Employees.
      Burger King – 8432 stores in the United States with 10′s of thousands of Employees.
      Burlington Coat Factory – 475 stores, 28,729 Employees.
      Clear Channel Communications – 20,000 Employees.
      Domino’s Pizza – 10,000 Employees.
      Dunkin’ Donuts 10,000 stores, thousands of Employees.
      Guitar Center – 225 stores, hundreds of Employees.
      The Sports Authority – 14,300 Employees.
      Staples – 1575 stores and thousands of employees.
      Toys “R” Us – Toys ‘R’ Us has 836 stores with thousands of employees.
      Warner Music Group – 3,700 Employees.

      Obama invested TAXPAYER MONEY in:

      Solyndra – BANKRUPT
      Ener 1 – BANKRUPT
      Beacon Power – BANKRUPT
      Abound Solar – BANKRUPT
      Amonix Solar – BANKRUPT
      Spectra Watt – BANKRUPT
      Eastern Energy – BANKRUPT
      GM Volt – Solyndra on wheels – $49,000 cost to taxpayers for each one sold.
      $900 Billion Dollars with NO Jobs.
      NOTE: All of these companies were Obama campaign contributors.
      The Choice is CLEAR…Do you want a BUSINESSMAN who has GENERATED BILLIONS or A President who has WASTED TRILLIONS?

  • delble

    I’ve said for 5 years that morons elected Barack Obama. I wish I had been wrong, but . . . Guess not.

    • Wil

      Didn’t you and your kind, give the country Dubya, for eight years. Now, that was nasty!

      • Stimpy

        What was nasty was the alternative to W. I held my nose and voted for W.

        • Wil

          Thanks to you and your kind were had 2 wars and a financial meltdown. Damn you!

          • nickshaw

            And what have today is waaayyy better, right?

          • Wil

            Absolutely! I remember Bush coming on TV to announce the financial meltdown.

          • Stimpy

            The war in Afghanistan was unavoidable — unless you wanted to curtsy and kiss Osama’s ass.

          • Wil

            When did Afghanistan attack America?

          • Stimpy

            And by the way — the financial meltdown was totally the result of Clinton and his collegues in Congress forcing through social engineering that required banks to make loans to people who couldn’t afford a house and didn’t know the risks of an ARM mortgage.

          • Wil

            Really! It was all Clinton’s fault? Remember, Bush had been president for almost, eight years, when the crash occurred.

          • Roadmaster

            Officials of the Bush administration went to Congress 17 times, warning about the impending financial meltdown. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the “genius” Maxine Waters in many more words said, “nothing happening here, shut up, go away!”

          • Wil

            Where did you get that information? Oh, never mind, I know.

          • Jeff Webb

            You know it happened, Wil. No matter how blindly partisan you are, there is no denying it. President Bush had concerns that the risky home loans pushed by democrats would lead to a financial crisis. He went to the democrats and recommended they all work together to prevent any crisis from happening. They said there was nothing to worry about. The crash occurred, just as Bush anticipated and the dems denied.
            If you’re going to keep playing your little game, I have a deal for you: you can either admit you’re wrong right now, or I can post a link to the video showing democrats denying any problem and you never post here again.
            What’ll it be?

          • Wil

            > President Bush had concerns that the risky home loans pushed by democrats would lead to a financial crisis. <

            /
            Can you provide a link, about Bush's concern about the financial crisis. When did this happen?

          • Jeff Webb

            Do you accept the terms of the deal?

          • Wil

            What deal? Just provide an unbiased link, about Bush’s concern about the financial crisis.

          • Jeff Webb

            What deal? Sorry, I assumed you actually read my comment. Here, I’ll copy & paste the part where I proposed the deal: “If you’re going to keep playing your little game, I have a deal for you:
            you can either admit you’re wrong right now, or I can post a link to
            the video showing democrats denying any problem and you never post here
            again.

            So, what will it be?

          • Wil

            Whatever?

          • Jeff Webb

            Don’t be coy, little man.
            If I post the video proving my claim, do you agree to never post on this site again?

          • Wil

            No, but thanks for playing the fool. If you had any proof, it would have been provided.

          • Jeff Webb

            No-no-no-no-no you don’t, kid. You’re not pulling this crap with me.

            I gave you a challenge and you backed down like a little coward. Fool? The fool is the one who ducks a challenge from the guy whose point he mocked before.

            The video is on my hard drive, and I’ll up the ante, champ: you promise to never post another comment on this site if I provide the link, and if I then fail to provide it, then I promise to never post another comment, not even after the columns I write.

            It’s up to you, debate-boy.

          • Wil

            Little Jeffie, Can you give us a hint on where your link came from? Just asking, I’m not buying a pig in a poke!

          • Jeff Webb

            Oh brother, more pathetic stonewalling.
            Dude, it’s a YouTube video of a Brit Hume newscast on FNC, posted by a conservative in Canada.

            I know you’ll try questioning FNC’s credibility as an excuse for chickening out, so I’ll help you stay focused. If the footage of Frank’s downplaying or any other person supporting my point has been doctored, you’ll no doubt be able to show that. If that is the case, I’ll concede to you 100%.

            Now, you gonna waste more time?

          • Wil

            Dude, it’s a YouTube video of a Brit Hume newscast on FNC, posted by a conservative in Canada.>>

            .

            Jeffy, Just as I figured, Brit Hume is your proof. FNC’s credibility is joke! Stop wasting my time,

          • Jeff Webb

            Conveniently ignoring my challenge, I see.

            Wil, you’re a pathetic, bona fide coward. I told you that chickening out need not be an option. If you’re certain that the footage of Frank in this video will turn out to be doctored, then you’d be able to prove it, right?

            BTW, you lost your right to challenge anyone’s credibility long ago. Do you think I don’t remember that you’ve been suspended from this site, that you have posted false, defamatory comments here?

            I’ve given you respect you don’t deserve by simply thinking you’d rise to a challenge.

            Your choices: rise up, shut up, or post another non-response. Only one of these will show you’re not a craven little turd.

          • Wil

            Your answer is blowing in the wind. Because, that’s all you do. Stop wasting my time.
            .
            BTW, What video are you braying about?

          • Wil

            Resorting to name calling. How childish of you.

          • Jeff Webb

            Even with a way to show otherwise, you decided your best choice was to be a craven little turd. My tiny amount of faith in you was misplaced, unsurprisingly.

            Actually, this whole thing has been an exercise in showing what a miniscule, substandard person you are to deal with. Anyone who knows how to operate a computer can do a very brief google search and see what is simply a matter of record: Barney Frank denied there was any problem with Fannie/Freddie that could lead to a financial crisis.
            I suggest you take a moment and do so; it wouldn’t take any longer than it would for you to post another petty remark here.

            There was never any question that you’re wrong about this–I merely saw this as a chance to get rid of an annoyance, not that you would’ve kept your word in the first place.

          • Wil

            Blah, blah, blah you never make any sense. All you do is throw insults at people. What a sick person, you must be!

      • delble

        W. loved his country. Obama doesn’t. Huge dif.

        • Wil

          Nonsense!

          • Lc Goodfellow

            ” Were you in a coma during this time or are you just ignoring history ” ?

  • Stimpy

    The stupid people are also naturally the unsuccessful people. The (democrat) politicians offer them freebies or goodies and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Oh, and the dopey, poor people also breed like flies. Sorry for the cynicism.

    • Wil

      >Oh, and the dopey, poor people also breed like flies.<
      And, we name them 'Stimpy'.

  • keyster

    Sorry my fellow Americans. This is the first I had heard about some place called Syria. Meanwhile I’ve been following the Miley Cyrus twerking scandal. OMG!

  • http://unseenmoon.wordpress.com/ Felipe Zapata

    The photo accompanying this article is not a good choice. I would wager big bucks that he is not an Obama supporter. The Go USA sign he is also holding gives him away.

    • MontanaMade

      It’s the way he spelled “MORON” on his sign (with an “A”) to punctuate the point of talking about morons…

      • http://unseenmoon.wordpress.com/ Felipe Zapata

        Oh, I understand that. Just would have been better to display someone who’s obviously an Obama moron instead of one who’s almost certainly not.

        • MontanaMade

          ahhh… yeah- that would have been netter- but what does an Obama supporter look like? In my neck of the woods- they are students, professors, attorneys, unemployed (ex) workers, soccer moms, etc… from all walks of life. Hard to tell them from the rational, thinking people of the nation.

          And the real problem? Too many people will not talk about what a trainwreck Obama is- too afraid to “stir the pot” and cause some hurt feelings! It’s about time they got their feelings hurt a LOT! They caused this mess- they need to clean it up.

          • http://unseenmoon.wordpress.com/ Felipe Zapata

            We are of one mind.

  • Brhurdle

    In my opinion, the Democrats have been successful because they have mastered the apparatus and art of opinion making in the US. They are able to completely demonize any idea or person that does not support their agenda. In 2008, Sarah Palin was cast as a redneck with sub human intelligence and became the reason to not vote for the Republican ticket. In 2012, Mitt Romney was cast as an elite robber baron who would pull a reverse Robin Hood. It’s not a matter of intelligence, it’s a matter of their ability to establish false facts. They control the media and institutions of higher learning where the activists can be indoctrinated to spread the word. Approximately 40% benefit from their Robin Hood policies (5% ruling class and 35% direct beneficiaries of government largesse) and they are able to completely dupe 25% of the remaining 60% (15%) for a solid 55% majority. The Republicans should let the ACA proceed and the disaster will be undeniably owned by the Democrats. They’ll be unable to blame it on George Bush or Congressional Republicans since the increased costs will come directly from their wallets.

    • Shane

      The Dems have most of the MSM and Hollywood on their side. It is easy for them to have their message spread all over our country.

  • Adrien

    Couldn’t you say the same for Republicans who get voted in?

    • someangrywhiteguyintexas

      I have not seen a Republican yet that got voted into office based only on his skin color. To anyone who did there research before voting, Obama was a disaster waiting to happen. He got elected and it was indeed a disaster. No further research needed. Again based on skin color, he got elected again. I do not like Republicans much more than I like Democrats but I will say that there is a limit to how low Republicans will generally stoop. Not so for Democrats.

  • Swampfox1965

    People who are dead don’t have a functioning brain. And we know with certainty that a lot of dead people voted for Obama — some more than twice!! Add the dead to the dolts — both groups voting multiple times — and you come up with a second Obama victory.

    Obama prides himself in his “ground game.” I happen to believe that his feeble campaign the second time around was the result of his ground game’s knowledge that the multiple votes of thousands and thousands of dolts and corpses would be enough to give him the electoral votes he needed in those few “battleground” states that were truly contested.

    And then, of course, there was the IRS’s muzzling of vocal conservative groups.

    Given Obama’s salary + perks, I think there’s a case for an indictment for grand larceny.

  • Elita

    HLMencken way back in around 1948 or so was editor of Baltimore Sunpapers. My dad use to write weekly letters to the editor. He handwrote them,we did not have money for a typewriter. One day he gets a letter from HL typewritten saying ” we no longer can accept handwritten letters like yours because they make for erros.”.Note errors was erros. We never knew if he was being facetious or it was a typing error…Dad continued to write by hand and every letter was printed in the Letters to Editor column until the day he passed on November 1964. When he died,Sunpapers wrote an obit on him saying how he wrote all these prolific letters to them..
    So this is a true story about HL who we later recognized as very Anti-Semitic.
    Mrs. Elita Sohmer Clayman Pikesville,Baltimore, Md. 21209

  • Raessi

    You are correct. Be sure to include O’Rielly. He has given Obama the benefit of doubt from the beginning . Just another ignorant person.

    Roger A. Essi
    Fayetteville NC

    • RickonhisHarleyJohnson

      You’re right about O’Reilly, if you go back 6-9 months. Since then he has been all over Obama. It’s been a nice change to see.

      • hihoze

        I agree. Bill O’Reilly tried to be fair and he has to be mindful of viewer ratings. I suspect he counted to a million before deciding to speak the truth about this America hating/blaming sob

    • hihoze

      It took 5 years before Bill O’Reilly finally called Obama a Socialist. 5 YEARS! It’s was obvious to me in the first 5 minutes after I learned who this Marxist Bigot and Commie Community Organizer was raised by and hung out with.

  • Chris Miller

    And he has aiders and abetters in the education system, in the entertainment (and to a degree sports) industry, in the workplace, and especially the media who all have the same agenda. Program (Read brainwash) all Americans into slaves for a communist utopia.

  • joepotato

    What can you possibly expect from a community instigator (thug) who was born in Kenya and raised in Hawaii and Indonesia (from Osamabama’s book bio). After hiding all of his records, lying constantly (about anything and everything), and engaging in coverups that make Nixon look like choir boy, why is anyone surprised…? The mass hypnosis using the chant “yes we can” was monumental success not seen since Hitler took the reins of Germany. The people were already primed by the BSM and the subliminal messages messages that were implemented (on TV) for decades.

    It’s funny that you should mention constitutional eligibility, Bernie, even in the context of a 3rd term…. for we still don’t have verifiable proof that he is/was eligible for these first two. If you can show me, please do… You do realize that the LFBC on the WH website was investigated and is confirmed to be a fraud, right?

  • BonnieU2T2

    I agree that we have a lot of uninformed and uneducated people in America who unfortunately vote, but I don’t think we have enough of them to re-elect Obama for a 2nd term. The amount of Voter fraud was ignored by the media, and touted by the Attorney General as “non-existant” So, I believe there was even MORE voter fraud the 2nd time around. One of the two Senators that were just voted out of office by a recall in Colorado, in wondering what hit her, said it was “Voter Suppression” because in the Recall election, no “vote by mail” BINGO! Why does anyone think Eric Holder and the rest of the Democrats fight so hard against Voter I.D Laws?? Because it cuts down on Voter fraud! Some Democrats are so bold about it, they would try to use their Obitiuary photo as I.D. to vote! I have always wondered why all the dead people vote for Democrats? The GOP is really failing to reach out to the deceased, and are discriminatory by only allowing one vote per person!

  • lark2

    I agree with Bernie in many ways. Today, the schools are a complete disaster but, I’m 70 years old. I remember when parents cared and teachers taught … albeit without the help of all the “Technology” we MUST have today. Students were thoughtful, they could read and write … and they could add a column of figures. Today, they know nothing and they grow up to be no brighter than a tree trunk and they elect Barack Obama … twice! Americans used to have a clue … we elected qualified people. Of course, we didn’t always agree with what they did but they were people of intellect. They often shaded the truth, but they were not BOLDFACE LIARS and unqualified FAKERS!

    • hihoze

      We were electing Progressives since Woodrow Wilson…FDR was the worst but since FDR we got LBJ a total domestic and foreign disaster with wars on poverty and Nam, then came Jimmy, worthless Jimmy and his Dept of Energy and Education…..Coolidge and Reagan were the only two presidents in the 20th Century worth a damn and worthy to be called an American President. Obama is the product of a long line of Marxist indoctrination in lieu of an appreciation of Madison.

      • lark2

        You are certainly right. My sense is that OBAMA is a different kind of “Progressive” … he is a grossly Incompetent one who actually thinks he knows something. He is a DANGEROUS. faker.

  • Jackryanvb

    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep “voting” on what they will have for lunch.

    Democracy is envious Hutus voting in genocidal tribal leaders in ing Hutu mobs to massacr Tutsi tribesmen.

    Democracy is Robert Mugabe winning election after election promising to redistribute the wealth of White farmers and give the land to….
    THE PEOPLE

    Democracy in America was uneducated, lower class Black Americans elected cocaine crack head Marion Barrry mayor of America’s capital.

    The American Founding Fathers were not idiots, they understood the dangers of too much democracy, of Roman style mob rule. Our country was a Constitutional Republic, with strong safeguards against mob direct democracy mob rule.

    The Swiss have a good system, the right amount of democracy. The Swiss do most things very well – clean, safe, prosperous, strict immigration laws, strict environmental laws.

    Yeah, and I think the US should have laws requiring voters know how to read, not be drunks or drug addicts or convicted felons like Marion Barry.

  • SkyCitizen

    Bernie, Mencken was not being a cynic but rather a realist. Stupidity is often defined as doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. The beauty of our democracy is that you can only be stupid for eight years instead of the alternative of having to wait for your mistake to die.

    • joepotato

      You are confusing stupidity with “insanity” as spoken by Einstein :-)

  • Gideon

    Never forget that half of the population is of below average intelligence.

    • J

      Gideon, what is considered “average” these days?

  • Drew Page

    Obama was elected because Americans wanted to make history. I suppose we could have made even bigger history by giving America back to the Indians. A lot of black people who voted for Obama because he was black. A lot of white people that voted for him weren’t actually voting for him, but against the Republicans and the memory of George Bush. They bought into that baloney of ‘Hope & Change’, transparency in government and an end to middle east wars. They bought that line about ‘transcending racial politics’ and making a ‘fundamental transformation of America’ without ever asking “transformation into what?”.
    I have no beef with the minorities, the unions, welfare mopes and those who don’t pay taxes. They voted for Obama because he promised them more of the status quo. They knew what they wanted. The people I have a beef with are those “conservatives” who believed that Romney was not “conservative enough” and stayed home on election day, thereby ensuring Obama a victory. To you fools I can only say, I hope you are happy with what we have today, because YOU ARE REASPONSIBILE FOR IT.

    • Jim

      Very well stated and I agree fully. Why Republicans have a problem with unity over minor issues and/or personalities is beyond my reasoning since the “Donkey Kong” Party has no problem with being united over all their idiotic ideas and candidates.

  • jazzdrums

    there are people who have no self awareness yet make it through each day and only by having a paper cut on their finger and seeing blood do they know they are alive. good looking girls on a beach can tell you the science behind hair extensions and glue on nails but ask them what happened in 1776 or the 3 branches of govt or even the official name of only 1 branch. many say why do I need to know that…and walk away giggling

  • Sean

    I think this whole thing goes way beyond a stupid electorate. You don’t hear much about it any more, but Obama truly is a quasi-religious figure. Anyone who doesn’t believe the media views the President like a Christian views Christ needs to look deeper. And it’s the media, along with the celebrity culture, which holds the real power in this country. Scary stuff.

  • http://tcsi-oklahoma.com/ Mark Rushing

    You just can’t fix stupid. That is the very reason when communists or religions take control of government, they always perform a purge and round up all opposition with above 100 IQs and execute them. History has shown this to happen EVERY time religions come to power. Communism is a religion!!

  • worker1950

    Mr. Goldberg, I think you are correct and correct. Mr. Obama is ill-equipped to govern but could probably be elected again. The reason his presidency has been a failure is because the same people who masterminded his election campaigns are running his administration and whose counsel he seeks.

    While masterful at manipulating the electorate into voting for their guy – these people (Alexrod, Jarrett, et al) are not qualified to assist the President in governing. They still view other Americans (Tea Partiers, Conservatives and the military) as the Country’s biggest problem not unemployment, the national debt or America’s rapidly dwindling international standing.

    • hihoze

      They view America as the world’s problem and think the world would be better off without America in spite of the fact that the whole world runs from everywhere to get away from there to get to here.

  • LibertysSon

    I say that thr”Red Line” comment actually guaranteed that these weapons would be used. The opposition Rebels saw an opportunity to force the West into taking their side if they could create a crisis by using the gas weapons they aquired last May. Hoping ,of course, that the world would assume that Assad was the culprit.

    • Stimpy

      You’re an idiot.

      • LibertysSon

        That’s your Argument? You wish you were as smart as I am.

  • Gerry

    A brilliant piece of journalism, Bernie. I believe wholeheartedly in Menken’s
    view of American’s. The dumbing down of Americans surged forward following
    Lyndon (The Thief) Johnson and his “Great Society Program”. Taxpayers have paid trillions in support of the GSP. It was the beginning of the end our great society. Hell why get off your fat ass when you can sit at home, have lots of kids and the government (at taxpayer expense) will provide you with housing, food, medical care, education (the very few who will take advantage of this freebie), transportation, etc. The idiots in Washington and elsewhere who do not have the guts to stand up to their dumb constituents and tell them enough-is-enough. You are going to get off your fat ass and start supporting yourself.

    • Drew Page

      If they did that, their constituents wouldn’t vote for them.

  • sjangers

    I think your final thought, in a roundabout way, really hits the nail on the head, Bernie. Over the years, I’ve worked with people from a wide variety of backgrounds and have often been pleasantly surprised by their insight, wisdom and character. But when you put those same people together in large groups, expecting their collective output to rise to the level of their individual qualities, they rarely fail to disappoint.

  • Dougmatt

    Please do not forget Mr. Obama’s pledge that, if elected in 2008, that he would “fundamentally transform the United States.” He is well on his way to rendering the U.S. a semi-socialist, unexceptional, 2nd rate world power.
    Why is any rational person surprised at the ineptness of this minimum-wage community organizer from political-machine driven Chicago?

    • Drew Page

      Many of us are not surprised at all, in fact we predicted it. Millions of us voted for the other guy. Unfortunately, not quite enough of us.

  • gbandy

    This article is the understatement of all time. Unfortunately many of the clueless now are taking from the Government and living off the working people in this Nation more under Obama than any other president in history. We really have slipped sadly into a socialist society with so many on food stamps, welfare, free phones, and all the entitlements. I guess this Nation really needs a change unlike the one promised.

  • http://blog.cyberquill.com/ Cyberquill

    Thanks to “stupid people in large groups,” we had two Bush terms followed by two Obama terms.

    • gbandy

      At least under Bush the US was not the laughing stock of the World and the US had prestige. Cannot say that under Obama.

      • Drew Page

        The national debt was a lot lower ($7 trillion less); more people were working and had full-time jobs; you really could keep your health care plan and doctor; we didn’t need Russia to throw the president a lifeline after shooting off his mouth and then not backing it up. When Bush went into Iraq, he had first built a coalition of allies and NATO partners and when his ‘red line’ was crossed, we attacked.
        Are we better off today than we were five years ago? Answering for myself, I must say HELL NO. WE ARE MUCH WORSE OFF.

    • Ted Crawford

      I would agree on the second term of Bush ’43′, however in 2000, we had a choice between Frick and Frack, and in that instance I feel we made the best choice possible!

  • savage24

    As I have said before, I always thought that education was the way to solve the problem of ignorance until I saw what educated people were doing to our country. The educated are no better than the ignorant because they thrive on using one another for their ungodly ends.

    • Sue

      I agree

    • Ted Crawford

      Education, in those very few places where it still exists, Hillsdale College for example, is wonderful. Education is not what we have been experiencing, at least since October 17 1979! With the signing of Pub. L. 96-88, by the criminally naive Jimmy Carter, our Education System became an Indoctrination System!

  • docww

    Even the Greeks when they first developed Democracy had the wisdom to take into account the nature of human beings. The Council of Five Hundred had a lot of power in Athenian democracy and they were chosen by lot. There were no professional politicians in that group! Jurors for trials were also chosen by lot.

    Citizens in Athens were expected to directly participate in running the city. There took up various jobs on a rotating basis so they had no bureaucrats. The person with the keys to the city vault changed on a regular basis. Court trials were speedy so there wasn’t time to bribe anyone. And they had no imperial President.

  • Buzzeroo

    A vast bulk of the American public long age earned the title “the great unwashed mob’” for the simple reason that they are a bunch of ignorant, uncaring easily swayed fools in our midst. The only thing that has permitted us the success that we have had has been a media which was split so as to provide a drumbeat of passionate on both sides of any issue—thereby pounding opposing arguments into the public’s alleged minds and giving a fighting chance to any fouol president’s incompetent, harmful actions. Obama doesn’t have this problem While he is dumber and more viciously and haughtily incompetent than any of his predecessors, the media is four square behind him. They do not show his failings while falsely touting his accomplishments as achievements. There is a sufficiency of dopes here who are simple incapable of seeing through this and would vote for him forever if given the chance just so long as the crooked media tells them to do so. My question is just why does the media do this.Sheer stupidity such as their readers and listeners does not apply to them so what the hell is it. Money? Exemption from the coming economic ravages.,,,,WHAT????

    • Drew Page

      The media make their money by appealing to the masses. Newspapers and magazines want to have more subscribers because that increases their revenues. The same can be said for TV and radio networks, the greater their market share, the more advertising revenue they generate. Ditto for Hollywood movie producers and entertainers, the more public appeal they generate, the greater their revenues. So those in these industries are always going to try to appeal to the masses, to identify with them and to pretend to be their champions. They love your applause, your approval and your adoration, but if you are waiting for an invitation to their next party, don’t hold your breath.
      I don’t know who coined the expression “The masses are asses”, but it is true. Maybe that’s why the Democrats adopted the donkey as their official mascot.

  • BARJANDOR

    POTUS is a Post Turtle. Not familiar with the term? When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a post turtle. You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he’s up there, he’s elevated beyond his ability to function, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put him up there to begin with, and in the case of POTUS, twice!
    To paraphrase the Peter Principle – Promoted to the level of his incompetence/ability.

  • k962

    The stupidity of the American people grows every year by virtue of the next dumbed down high school graduating class! Clueless and dopey kids who are nothing but zombies being told who vote for by left professionals!

    • hihoze

      The Unionized Progressive school teachers in the government run monopolies aka: public schools, issue diplomas that attest to their subject’s indoctrination and preparation for further collegiate studies in permanent servitude.

  • Kevin M. Sullivan

    Stupidity is on the rise, and the left is loving it.

  • pupster40

    “At heart, Mr. Obama may or may not be a nice guy”. How about not. He seems to want to rewrite the Constitution, all inclusive. I don’t think that lives up to “nice guy”, especially seeing he wants to do it by executive order. He admits we are a Nation of laws, yet he ignores the majority of them because they won’t get him votes.
    No, not a very nice guy, but he IS backed by some very stupid progressives and flock of stupid (gimme) people.

    • Stimpy

      And he has already labeled us as ‘his enemy’.

  • daveinboca

    Oblunder is an incompetent puppet—-a process freak so enamoured of his poll numbers that he ignored Clinton, Petraeus, Gates et al two years ago when they counselled him to arm the Syrian rebels before Al-Qaeda started to infiltrate and take over the insurrection. He didn’t and completely muffed any chance for the rebels to overcome the Assad regime.

  • hihoze

    The Decline & Fall of America continues unabated, aided and abetted by the most ignorant, indoctrinated and distracted generation in its rise to the top.

    It’s over Bernie. Secession and break-away republics are next.

    Really well written piece, love you tying Mencken back in at the end.

  • JimStaudt

    Excellent analysis, but it assumes one basic thing: That the 2012 election was not stolen. As history proved that Kennedy’s “Chicago connection” stole the 1960 election from Nixon, history will prove that the 2012 election was stolen by a conglomerate made up of SEIU and other democrat vote counters, Black Panther intimidation, ACORN subterfuge, and the Chicago “ObaMafia”, among others. Then all you have to do is add in the just under 50 percent of the voters who are on a government check of one kind or another, and you have the election result we all saw last November. Yes, there are millions of stupid people out there; you need look no further than the “mainstream” media to verify that. But I’m not sure they tally up to the numbers you speak of.

    • Sue

      I agree with Jim S. Politicians know exactly how to steal an election. As to the high school kids ignorance in voting as stated by one blogger, what about the college kids who admire their left wing progressive professors. All brains and no common sense. I also agree with the fact that there are stupid people out there who vote for “party” and don’t know a thing about the candidate. I live near Charlotte and heard a lot of what was going on at the Dem. Convention. [how they bussed their people in, etc.] It was all in the newspapers.

    • joepotato

      You didn’t mention the Soros/SCYTL vote counting consortium… I think they played a big part…

  • trailbee

    Right on – our money!

  • Randy

    The apparent fact that he used the IRS to squash the efforts of the tea party went a long way towards promoting the ignorance of the electorate. Chicago rules win again.

  • Seattle Sam

    They are not all stupid. They just view politics as a Reality TV show, where the scripts are improvised by real people rather than actors. Some are portrayed as villains, some as buffoons. You root for some and boo others. You look forward to each new episode, but it doesn’t require you to think about them. They might be “real” in the sense that they’re not in a studio, but at the end of the day it’s just mindless entertainment. Next.

  • RickonhisHarleyJohnson

    When our nation was founded, at least at the writing of our Constitution, the founders made us a nation of laws, to protect against the very problem you write about, Bernie. The usurpers have been steadily working to destroy our Constitution ever since. It’s nearly reached the point of meaningless and the; uninformed, ill-informed, never-informed masses don’t know it has happened, much less how much worse off they are for it..

  • MACK99

    Especially when there getting a bunch of free stuff

  • GlenFS

    Mr. President, Americans do not need to be organized to establish your twisted sense of fairness, we need to be free to make our own (stupid) choices such as electing you twice. God help America.

  • Thewryobservator

    I don’t know, Mr. Goldberg. I think there’s more to it than that – stupid people in large groups, that is. You’ve mentioned it yourself on a couple of occasions -there’s just something about the guy. He’s like a flame to a moth in many ways. And there seems to be an ability to sway a crowd on a level and in a way that goes far beyond rationality – and in a way that nullifies what’s right before ones eyes. Maybe it, whatever it is, is wearing off. One can hope. But I don’t know. I fully expect him to rise up out of the ashes, unilaterally bomb Syria, start world war three, and demonstrate to the masses that somehow, the bad outcome was the fault of Republican obstruction in the House and Senate. And Bush. Probably, that’s the point where the less clever masses come into play. Prior to that, though, it would have included people who think for themselves, save when they’re in the presence of their leader. At that point, all bets are off.

    • Ted Crawford

      That may already be occurring! We have two well armed Fleets, in close proximity, from two Nations whos relationship is deteriorating. With the major portion of the World in economic distress, throw-in Religious bigotry, how much of a miscalculation would it take to spark an incident? To top it off, the President of Russia just gave the President of the United States an Atomic Wedgie on the International Playground!

      • Thewryobservator

        While progressives are spiking the football over the wonder that is White House diplomacy – planned in advance, of course.

        I was not looking forward to military without a plan – but I wonder if we aren’t breathing a sigh of relief before the storm…

  • Bob Hadley

    “At heart, Mr. Obama may or may not be a nice guy. Reasonable people may disagree on that.” Careful Bernie, you might disturb the unreasonable ideologues in your base. :)

    • Thewryobservator

      Actually – and being an ideologue, I fee reasonably competent to rise to the occasion, Mr Obama (who is, himself, also quite the ideologue) may or may not be a nice guy on a personal level. Reasonable people may absolutely disagree on that point. (I happen to think he really may be might be a nice, though misguided fellow.) But when it comes to being President, I think he really is in way over his head. Nothing personal involved – just a matter of observation.

      • Bob Hadley

        Certainly a reasonable remark! Obviously, you’re not part of Bernie’s unreasonable base, at least not in that respect.

        • Thewryobservator

          I appreciate that. And I’m aware of the unreasonableness you’re speaking of. I’m seen it in myself, I think Bernard Goldberg touched on it more than once. It appears to be common and an equal opportunity employer at it seems manifest across a wide range of the political spectrum.

    • nickshaw

      I’m not unreasonable.

      I just don’t think Skeeter is a “nice guy”.
      He’s aloof and an intellectual midget, though he talks a good game.
      He thinks he’s intelligent so, he doesn’t notice his faults and for that reason, he doesn’t have a lot of friends.
      Everyone he “pals” with he is either using or is employed by him in some manner.
      A few are smart enough to use him.
      Mooch and Valerie come immediately to mind.

    • JimStaudt

      The fact that Barack Obama may or may not be “nice guy” is irrelevant. The fact that he IS in way over his head is what is — and that is what should have us all gravely concerned, not his personality. I understand that Hitler, too, in the right circumstances, was a “nice guy”.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    In politics most voters just dabble,
    In fact liberals today are just rabble,
    they all think they’re smart,
    yet vote only their heart,
    On a Presidents schemes that are just babble.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Poetry night at BernardGoldberg.com. I like it!

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Limerick any one?
        There once was a writer named John,
        whose articles, liberals wished gone,
        not that they’re bad,
        but they do get em mad,
        but not clearly as much as that Sean.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Nice! Thanks for the shout out. ;)

  • EddieD_Boston

    The last election was a coalition of people who wanted to shift power away from the white male over to everyone else. They’re oblivious to the fact the white male invented and change the world with the printing press, flight, assembly line manufacturing, the MRI and the iPhone.
    I have nothing against everyone else, we all have something to offer. However, the disdain they have for us is mind-boggling.
    Because education is run by looney liberals (K-12 & Higher Ed.) my students under 40 years old have been so brainwashed they don’t even know there’s another side of the argument. They don’t know what they don’t know. Most are so clueless (including the white males among them) they think the country would be better without us in their way. What’s the over/under on that being true?
    Ever hear of Charles Darwin?

  • Wil

    Bernie, I love the irony of the whole situation. The far-right, for once, is against bombing middle-easterns because Obama is suggesting it, leading to Neo-Cons fighting for a liberal position, simply because “That One” is taking all their positions.

    Now, all we just need is for Obama to support prayer in schools, creationism, free guns to everyone upon their 10th birthday, and to demonize education and we might finally stop becoming the first world nation everyone laughs at behind their back (or face).

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      The far right? What exactly is that? That term’s become a catch-all in the mainstream media for anyone who opposes Obama’s big government agenda. If you’re talking about constitutionalists and Tea party conservatives, their opposition of military intervention in Syria has little to do with Obama and far more to do with a movement toward non-interventionist libertarianism, and belief that we’re too economically weak to get involved in these ventures anymore. These people would have been against Bush’s operations in the Middle East, had they been in office at the time.

      And it’s not just the “far right” that is against bombing Syria. A solid majority of the country is against it. Contrast that with an even larger majority of the country that supported invasion of Iraq.

      There are plenty Republican foreign-policy hawks that are supporting military intervention in Syria, and plenty on Obama’s side of the aisle who are against it. The truth is that this is the least partisan national issue we’ve had in five years.

      • alegalcitizen

        Well with 791 comments and 410 up votes, you can SEE where he is coming from! He’s a jerk on steroids, he LOVES the way America is heading, down, but then he probably Loves it this way!

      • nickshaw

        I agree, John.
        I might point out it’s really a matter of principle.
        Just as a majority agreed with invading Iraq, a majority would not have had a problem with Skeeter doing pinpoint strikes on the delivery systems for those chemical weapons immediately upon hearing of the attack (see my response above to Wil).
        Unfortunately, he dropped the ball. Not unheard of for those who have no real principles.
        It makes the rumors that he was undecided about taking out UBL (or, at least, Valerie was undecided!) all the more believable.

    • EddieD_Boston

      Either that or the irony is liberals wanting to drop bombs and kill innocent children…”Hell no we won’t go, we won’t fight for Texaco”!!!!

      You don’t see that irony Wil?

    • nickshaw

      Jeez! Not even one mention of us all being racist!
      In a way, that’s somewhat laudable.
      Let me set you straight. We (and I think I can speak for many of us) are not against bombing anyone just because Skeeter suggested it.
      He said there was a “red line” that shouldn’t be crossed.
      It was crossed numerous times and he did nothing. Finally, it was crossed with so much publicity that he couldn’t ignore it and…he did nothing.
      If a Reagan or even a Bush had spoken of “red lines”, I can be pretty sure either of them would have called up the CIA immediately upon first reports and asked them where, exactly, the delivery systems for those chemical weapons were.
      Everyone with half a brain knows they have one, perhaps more, of those KH-1, or whatever they are called, spy satellites watching Assad’s forces particularly since intel let them know something was up.
      Within 24 hours, maybe less, those installations would have been hit, hard, with cruise missiles.
      There would be no retaliation, either from Assad or his allies.
      Just like when the Israelis do that kind of thing.
      Even moreso if the intel indicating Assad forbade the use of chemical weapons when his commander begged to use them is true.
      The lib’ruls would have conniptions, of course.
      But, the point would be made and we wouldn’t hear another peep about Assad using chemicals.
      It wouldn’t help one side or the other.
      The “civil war” could continue apace without any more “help” from us.

      See, there’s a difference when you elect a man with no real principles.
      You get dithering and herculean efforts to find someone, anyone to share the blame when you might screw up.
      Skeeter waited so long to make up his mind (something he still hasn’t done!) that the real targets, the ones that no one would have a problem with destroying, left the field.
      Worse, all of Assad’s chemical weapons are now dispersed to who knows where (like Saddam’s)
      It was huge tactical mistake. He makes huge tactical mistakes all the time, both in foreign affairs and domestic.

      That’s to be expected. Skeeter only knows the tactics of campaigning and ass covering.
      Nope, it’s not because Skeeter wants to bomb brown people.
      It’s because he can’t keep his mouth shut and he has embarrassed all of us.

      • Wil

        “The dictator of Iraq and his weapons of mass destruction are a threat to the security of free nations.”
        • President Bush, 3/16/03

        • nickshaw

          Gee, how do I respond?
          How about, so what?
          Iraq had already been involved in invading two other countries and they were in the process of building up chemical and, perhaps, nuclear stockpiles.
          Multiple refusals to allow UN inspectors into the country led to it being invaded.
          You think there’s some similarity with Syria?

          • Wil

            Perhaps. my butt. Iraq was not a threat to the US! The UN inspectors were in Iraq, Bush ordered them out so, he could start ‘Shock & Awe’, remember that?

  • James C. McLay

    Israelis must be shaking their heads, wondering if it’s worthwhile having our president watch their backs –like having the keystone cops look out for them.
    Perhaps they’ll decide to take care of Iran on their own.

  • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

    I loved the tweet Nancy Pelosi made after Putin stepped into the Syria situation:

    “Thanks to Pres. Obama’s strength, we have a Russian proposal. We hope that it is credible and real, and therefore progress.”

    My favorite response to her tweet came from a guy named David Burge:

    “By getting his head stuck in the bowling ball return, Obama brilliantly tricked Putin into pantsing him. #HeMeantToDoThat”

    • EddieD_Boston

      Pelosi has to be the stupidest person to ever hold office in the history of earth. She looks dumb and says dumb thing, constantly. Wonder when the MSM will get around to asking her what the hell she’s talking about?

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        If they haven’t by now, they never will.

      • Drew Page

        She’s not dumb. The idiots who keep electing her are dumb. She is smart enough to keep them voting for her. Her idiotic comments really appeal to her constituency.

      • nickshaw

        They won’t.
        They can’t!
        Her answer would make her look even more out to lunch!
        If that’s even possible.
        The stupid just falls out of her mouth naturally. The last thing the LSM wants to do is encourage it!

      • ibraney

        I think her face is on two cranks too tight.

    • Drew Page

      Kudos, John Daly for posting that tweet fro David Burge. That is by far the funniest and most apt description of Obama’s interaction with Putin. I can’t stop laughing. Thank you for making my day.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        You’re welcome. Burge is fantastic. If you’re not following him Twitter, you need to. He comes up with a classic zinger or two just about every day: @iowahawkblog

    • nickshaw

      Iowahawk and Aceofspades!
      The real reason twitter was invented! ;-)

  • gold7406

    correct, the administration was the embodiment of everything liberals viewed themselves, young, hip, laid back, smart and cool. they were wrong on both accounts.

  • DonaldYoungsRevenge

    The only reason Americans elected this Fraud in Chief was the failure of the American media to expose his off the wall radical political and social philosophies. They never vetted the man. Americans have always depended upon the media to do their damn job. You can assume that most Americans have access to the 24/7 news stations, that is not true. Most Americans depend upon the local news stations and news papers. If they knew all the details about Barack Hussein Obama starting with the fact that he is 50% White, 43.25% Arab (thus his Arab name and all those Arab names on his supposed Daddy’s side of the family) and 6.75% African/Negro and the radical Communist/Marxist household he was raised in it would have made a difference. If they knew that he confessed to smoking crack cocaine and looked for Marxist college professors for his class selection they would have known what kind of “hope and change” he was talking about. If they knew he was a student of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, a book dedicated to Satan they would have had their doubts about him. If the left wing BIRTHERS had vetted Barack H. Obama when they vetted John McCain about his “natural born Citizen” status we would have all found out that Barack H. Obama never had a legitimate birth certificate. He was later forced to produce a certificate via a computer and a PDF file that is now known to be a forgery. If the media did their damn job he would have never been elected. DON”T BLAME clueless Americans, all the blame falls on the shoulders of the likes of Bernie Goldberg and the rest of the media numbskulls.

    • EddieD_Boston

      When Reagan ran in 1980 there were still WWII vets in the MSM so the liberal ones didn’t have the contempt for American values like the 60′s generation that predominates the media today has.

    • nickshaw

      Though everything you said is correct (except the crack thing, he snorted coke. Minor quibble.), DYR, some fault has to lay at the feet of voters too.
      When did we stop asking questions and become spoonfed dolts?
      There was a time when most Americans would have said, “I see you talking but, I don’t “hear” anything.”
      If you catch my drift.
      I remember hearing that “my grandmother was a typical white person” speech, you know the one, and I thought at that moment, wow, this guy is going to win ’cause he’s soooo genuine!
      At that moment.
      Within 15 minutes I realized he didn’t actually “say” anything!
      And the LSM never questions him so that others could come to that same realization.

  • MSMfail

    Love this piece and love your work in general, Bernie. Keep holding the MSM’s feet to the fire, when not hitting directly at this inept administration. Two small nits to pick: A live link to Wehner’s piece would be nice. And anyone who gets the “Ted Mack/Amateur Hour” reference falls outside a demographic that matters to the spinmeisters propping up Our Campaigner in Chief. :-)