Obama’s Spiking the Football Over 7.8% Unemployment?

Though I haven’t been a football fan for a couple of decades now, I certainly was one when I was younger. Growing up in a suburb of Denver, Colorado, Bronco-Mania was always a colorful, animated spectacle each Fall. My father was (and still is) a big fan of our home team. I never was, however. Back in the old days, I liked Joe Montana and the San Francisco 49ers.

So, when the Broncos and the 49ers faced off at Super Bowl XXIV back in 1990, it was a big event at our house. The media had really been hyping the John Elway vs Joe Montana angle. A lot of people were expecting a competitive game.

Well, that didn’t exactly happen. The 49ers absolutely demolished the Broncos. By the third quarter of the game, the score was 41-3. Needless to say, my father was not happy. On the other hand, I sure was… and I was admittedly rubbing the mismatch in a little too much. When John Elway eventually dove into the end-zone and gave the Broncos their first and final touchdown of the game, I erupted into sarcastic clapping. That pretty much set my father over the edge. With the veins in his forehead protruding, he delivered a rabid tongue-lashing that I’ll never forget, and he nearly kicked me out of the room.

My father’s reaction was understandable. He had an emotional investment in the game, and his team was setting a new NFL record by taking the worst beating of any team in Super Bowl history. On the field, none of the Broncos were celebrating Elway’s touchdown. Nobody spiked the football. There were no end-zone dances. The extra seven points meant nothing, other than perhaps a slightly less embarrassing entry in the sports almanacs. They were still getting creamed… badly, and didn’t have a prayer of winning. In fact, the 49ers even managed to tack on another 14 points by the final whistle.

Flash-forward to Friday of this week when it was reported that the national unemployment rate has dropped to 7.8%. President Obama proudly stood before cheering supporters and announced the news in a way that suggested he had just scored a major achievement, perhaps even comparable to Joe Montana’s MVP trophy which was won at the Super Bowl that year. With his chin held high, Obama declared that our nation is heading forward, and that we can’t turn back now.

I suppose it’s good to see at least one person feeling good about the economic news, because it’s hard to fathom how the rest of the country could look at that number as anything more meaningful and hopeful than Elway’s third quarter touchdown.

In a reality-based world, the only political advantage that number should give President Obama is the extra money the Romney campaign will now have to put into re-dubbing campaign commercials that pointed out how long the unemployment rate has been over 8%. But in the world of Obama, it’s celebration time for a job well done! A testament to the success of his economic policies!

Ridiculous.

Even if the number is legit (and some well-respected people in the business world, including Jack Welch, are skeptical), this achievement needs to be placed in the proper context…

On paper, we’re merely back to the same number that Barack Obama started his presidency at, during the height of the Great Recession. After being told by the president in early 2009 that the unemployment rate would never exceed 8% thanks to his $800 billion stimulus program, we ended up staying ABOVE that rate for essentially his entire presidency. According to the president’s 2009 estimates, his leadership was supposed to have had Americans enjoying a 5.6% unemployment rate right now.

But it’s much, much worse than how things appear on paper. Over the past year, the drops we’ve been seeing to the unemployment rate haven’t been due to a hiring surge. On the contrary… They’ve been primarily due to a large number of Americans leaving the workforce. In other words, these people have either given up looking for work all together, or have only been able to find part-time work. In both cases, they are no longer figured into the unemployment calculation. The result has been the lowest workforce participation rate in fifty years, and an unemployment rate that doesn’t reflect how truly horrific the jobs situation in this country still is.

Yet predictably, many Democrats are already beginning to salivate over the idea that 7.8% unemployment is a good sign for Obama’s re-election bid, regardless of what the rest of the story is. After all, the assumption is that most Americans are too lazy to scrutinize the number for its true meaning. Unfortunately, that’s probably a pretty decent assumption.

Paul Ryan described the situation well on Friday when he said, “Today is a sad indictment of the diminished expectations under President Obama.”

That’s a recurring theme when it comes to measuring Barack Obama’s record as our president. As I’ve written in previous columns, the bar for success has never been set as low for a president as it has been for President Obama.

Even more charitable is the notion that things will somehow get better in this country if we just give him more time to continue with his failed policies. It’s a nice thought, but the Broncos didn’t lose the Super Bowl because they weren’t given sufficient playing time. They lost because they were out of their league.

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  • IJustHaveAQuestion

    Placate to your billionaire folk and their useful “i, ummmm I forget,ts” southern trailer park readership, Bernie.  You do it so well. What did ED on MSNBC about Fox-y Loria? Yeah you!

  • Jeffreydan

      Congress did pass the “shovel-ready” bill, which BO admitted later didn’t exactly work as advertised.
     
      Satisfied with the answers yet, genius?  

    • asl3676

      Did you graduate from high school? You can’t be that ignorant…..

      • MarioP

        I hate to be stepping into your guys’ intellectual and stimulating debate, but can you all just change the topic? A great debate is always a pleasure to be read, but for some unknown reason, I’m just not getting that feeling here.

        • asl3676

          MarioP,

             I couldn’t agree more…Hard to debate someone who keeps repeating Fox News taking points…

  • Wheels55

    Was Obama trying to spike the football or dribble it? You know he is rather confused these days (thin air?).

  • MarioP

    REPLY TO PAUL COURTNEY 10/8/2012

    Paul, this debate is like pulling teeth that are cemented in your skull. Everyone knows the Great Recession ended in 2009, and the unemployment rate peaked that year same year. Your attempts at extending this debate, which you have turned into a spectacle on your end, is unnecessary and no one cares for it. I love debating with you, but let’s have an informative and constructive debate like the previous one. I’m not into prolonging debates such as these, which should have ended nearly as soon as it started. Unless you present something debatable, I’ll just ignore the rest of your posts in this chain.

    • Paul Courtney

      Not the first information you’ve chosen to ignore, I’ll bet.  Again, if the economy turned around in Oct. ’09, why isn’t Obama campaign touting this success?  They aren’t because, even if there were some economic indicator out there that apparently impresses the hell out of you from Oct. ’09, the Obama campaign realizes the voters would scoff if they tried to sell it.  The economy stunk  in spring of ’10 still, or Biden would have been talking of the great turnaround of ’09, not the summer of recovery to come (never came).  Your own party doesn’t buy this fiction, knows it’s too ridiculous to say.  Saying “everyone knows” something is your answer?  You’re right, no debate here.

      • MarioP

        You asked:

        “Again, if the economy turned around in Oct. ’09, why isn’t Obama campaign touting this success?”

        Maybe because the turn around happened three years ago? Today it’s old news?

        The US GDP retraction ended in 2009, and today’s value of the GDP in inflation-adjusted dollars is above what it was in 2007, setting all-time-high records since late last year.

        The stock market (Dow Jones Industrial) bottomed out in 2009, and today it’s at the 2007 levels, only 4% from all-time-high record.

        The unemployment rate peaked in 2009, and today it’s at 77% of that peak.

        I don’t know, maybe you missed it all, but this is all old news. Pay attention next time so you’ll not waste everyone’s time.

        • Paul Courtney

          Maybe I believe a few numbers don’t tell the story, and you’re missing the forest because you only see three trees.  What I don’t understand is, your friends in the Obama campaign seem to agree with me!  Or did they miss it too?  Funny, three yr old good economic news is “old news”, but the collapse four yrs ago, you know the one Bush caused all by himself, that’s not old news, it’s a campaign theme.  You guys really should get your  story straight.

          • MarioP

            Understood. We will work on your suggestion.

  • MarioP

    Are you still seeing stars from that debate we had back at Bernie’s “GOP civil war”? At least you know when it’s time to quit. 

  • Paul Courtney

    John:  Particularly like this column, because as you were typing I was accusing Mario P (Under Bernie’s “civil war” piece) of celebrating this number.  Guess what, he did!  The lefty posts below suggest they are still hung over.  

  • Paul Courtney

    John:  I especially enjoyed this column because, 2 days ago, while arguing with Mario P. under Bernie’s “civil War” post, I invited him and fellow libs to celebrate this number.  Guess what, they partied so hard, you can see poor asl is hung over, real bad, in his posts below.  Maybe he’ll feel better today, and actually respond to your stuff instead of responding to arguments not made.  Not holdin’ my breath on it, though, he’s got a debate to prep for!

  • Wheels55

    But, 7.8% is a step in the right direction.
    Which like saying that we have taken one step when we need to walk a mile.
    It can’t be surprising that this good number showed up right when it did. It can’t be surprising that Obama and his evil monkeys are jumping up and down with joy.
    But will it work? Will enough Americans say 7.8% is good enough? Will enough Americans buy into Obama’s negative rants? I think the smoke has cleared and Obama is looking like the fraud that he truly is.

    • asl3676

      Are the “evil monkeys” you are referring to those uppity colored people? 

      • chas615

         asl3676,
        Seriously? My God that schtick gets old.

        • asl3676

          I agree…Racism, bigotry and homophobia are old…

          • chas615

             As is liberals making racist claims where none exists. Did you ever see “The Wizard of Oz”? Evil monkeys in the movie? Get it? Lets see what else is racist to you? Refering to Obama golfing? (he does, as does Tiger Woods). Playing basketball?(he does) The word “Chicago (because a lot of african americans live there). Food stamp president? (More under him than anyone else. AND more white people on food stamps than african americans so I don’t understand how that is racist)

            Need I go on?? Get a life and argue your points with merit not idiotic claims of racism and such.

          • asl3676

            The Wizard of Oz was made in 1939….I know you long for “the good old days” but you are dating yourself…
            Many people like yourself are uncomfortable with a black man as President…If this is so why are you so hateful? Because unemployment is high? Unemployment was high under Reagan and I didn’t notice this kind of hate..did you?

          • chas615

            It is only on 3 or 4 times a year. The only hate I see is from non-thinking arrogant schmucks like yourself. Case in point, you just made a reference to me that I am “uncomfortable with a black man as President”. You don’t know me so you are basing that on something in this thread I guess. Since I have not made one racist statement, how can you jump to that conclusion. Do you have a magic crystal ball that points out racists to you? Do you have a sixth sense, like “I see racist people.” Either way you are making stupid statements which are wrong. I will not defend myself from your idiotic attacks.

      • Wheels55

        Ha! That’s funny. Not what you said, but what you are. You are totally a racist!
        I was thinking of the evil monkeys as Biden, Pelosi, Reid, DWS, the liberal media and even you. Your definition never once occurred to me.
        So, it’s true…liberals have nothing but lies and name calling to count on. It will be a long November 6th for you.

        • asl3676

          So people you dont agree with are evil? Perhaps you should get back on your medication..

          • Wheels55

            Nope. People who screw over Americans and then blame it on others are evil. People who make a lot of noise over nothing and then throw feces at people they don’t like are monkeys.  The aforementioned people are evil monkeys.
            Those who simply disagree with me due to a different point of view are OK in my book. I lose no sleep over it.
            Now back to your cage, Cheetah.

          • asl3676

            I’ll leave you to stew in your bitterness…..my sympathy to your friends and family…

      • Jeffreydan

          You know fully well there was no racism in the post, son, so quit embarrassing yourself.

          Just accept that you have no argument and go away whimpering. It’ll be more dignified than your desperate bigotry tossing. 

        • asl3676

          The only bigotry left in America, according to Fox News, is minority bigotry toward white folks….As you didn’t write the post how do you know there was no bigotry? I know you think you’re a mind reader but I have my doubts…LOL

          • Wheels55

            No racism nor bigotry intended in my post.
            I am Wheels55 and I approve this message.

            By the way, I missed that Fox News report. Could you tell us exactly when that was broadcasted?

          • asl3676

            In that case I apologize….

          • Jeffreydan

              “As you didn’t write the post how do you know there was no bigotry?”

              Two reasons. First, because Obama doesn’t have a group of black people that could be described as “his”. Contextually, the reference could only describe other liberals in power.
              Second, you play the race card exclusively when no racism has happened (like all other liberals), and you’re nothing if not consistent.

              This was an interesting question you asked. You can now expect to be asked it every time you pull the race card, only with the “no” removed.    
               

      • Jeffreydan

        BTW, you’re a little too comfortable using racist language like the last three words you posted here. Keep your bigotry to yourself from now on, mmkay?

  • Mariop

    Here we have another example of a blogger showing his ignorance for the economic data. In his blog he states the following:
    “Over the past year, the drops we’ve been seeing to the unemployment rate haven’t been due to a hiring surge. On the contrary… They’ve been primarily due to a large number of Americans leaving the workforce. In other words, these people have either given up looking for work all together, or have only been able to find part-time work. In both cases, they are no longer figured into the unemployment calculation.”

    If the author is looking for the unemployment rate that accounts for discouraged and part-time workers, why is he debating the official (U3) unemployment rate? As everyone knows, the U3 rate does not account for the aforementioned workforce, and last month’s U3 rate equates the rate from January of 2009. The U4 rate accounts for those discouraged workers the blogger was seeking. The U4 rate for last month is at 8.3%; the U4 rate for January and February of 2009 were at 8.2% and 8.7%, respectively. Since the blogger also wishes to know the rate including the part-timers, we need to review the U6 unemployment rate. The U6 rate for last month is at 14.7%; the U6 rate for January and February of 2009 were 14.2% and 15.1%, respectively. So, although the current U3 rate is at the January 2009 level, the U4 and U6 rates are higher than the January 2009 levels, but lower than the following month’s. Does anyone wish to go back to January 2009 and face the worst of the recession later that year, or would you rather stay put in the present day? Do I really need to ask whether anyone would rather go back to four years ago, right at the start of the meltdown?

    Finally, the author is also confused about the definition of the workforce, aka the labor force. The labor force consists of anyone, employed and unemployed, of the working age (16-65) and who is not institutionalized (in the military, mental institutions, retirement housing, etc). The labor force remains constant whichever unemployment rate (U1 through U6) is calculated. Therefore, the change in discouraged and part-time workers does not affect the labor force. The type of unemployment rate you wish to calculate from that constant labor force will account for the different types of workers.

    The blogger should have stopped writing after his football story ended to retain his credibility.

    • Wheels55

      Personally. I like U2. They make more sense than Mariop and his U3, U4….

      • Mariop

        We have finally something in common.

    • Paul Courtney

      Mario:  Your admission that the start of the meltdown was Jan ’09 is positively Bidenesque!  Us right wingers have been hearing it’s all Bush’s fault, glad to hear you know better.  And the “worst of the recession later that year”, being 2009 after stimulus passed, stop you’re killing me!  Bernie thought Ds were gonna pull Biden off the ticket, were they grooming you?

      • MarioP

        Wow, slow down jumpy! Where did I admit the meltdown started in January of 2009? I was comparing today’s unemployment rates (U3, U4, and U6) to when Obama came into the Office. I did not state that when Obama took Office, that was the start of the meltdown. What are you reading?
        I stated:”Do I really need to ask whether anyone would rather go back to four years ago, right at the start of the meltdown?””Four years ago” means October 8, 2008, which was about three weeks after the meltdown started. Why do I have to explain myself as if I was talking to a child?Finally, the worst of the recession was three years ago, in October 2009. It is remarkable that a year after the start of the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression, the economy was turned around. 

        • Paul Courtney

          The previous sentence says, “Does anyone wish to go back to January 2009…” and the thought carries right on to the next sentence.  I thought you were expressing yourself well, but now I see you were not.

          • MarioP

            I was actually giving two different time frames, January 2009 and October 2008.

            The reason I brought up “four years ago” was a play on the Republicans’ call of “Are you better of today than four years ago?”. Obviously that chant was very short lived. 

          • Paul Courtney

            Oooh, wait, here’s another one.  “[I]n October, 2009…the economy was turned around.”  Joe Biden was still looking for it in the summer (of recovery!) 2010.  And ’11.  By the summer of ’12, even Joe Biden had given up.  If the economy turned around in ’09, your friends in the Obama campaign missed the memo, ’cause telling the country the economy has turned around anytime in the Obama term is too big a lie for them.  Not for you though.  Now that’s saying something, a lie too big for the Obama campaign.  If you want to be taken seriously, Mario, you can’t go around saying things even D Axlerod shies from.   

          • MarioP

            Paul, please see me reply above. Search for:

            REPLY TO PAUL COURTNEY 10/8/2012

  • theneighborhoodguy01

    No good, rotten, lying, bastards.  Bad is the new good.  Congratulations, you Socialist rascals! You’ve successfully fooled 47 percent of America.
    But it won’t be enough.  This isn’t Venezuela.

  • Elaine Coyle

    What is this? The Emperor’s New Clothes.
    7.8 % is the new 5 %?
    23,000,000 out of work, Gas at almost $5.00 in some areas, Debt at 16 Trillion, Food prices soaring,One in five on food stamps & Democrats are spiking the football because the Economy is growing?
    How do we let them get away with such drivel?
    It doesn’t help that 90 % of the MSM has Obama’s back.
    There is nothing to be found on the despicable way that Obama & Clinton handled the
    Ambassador’s death & the chaos in 20 countries, that followed.
    Personally, I don’t believe the job numbers& I expected some maneuvering. I am surprised that Democrats didn’t use the Oil Reserves to bring down the price of gas.It could still happen.

  • bonaparte3

    Excellent piece, Mr. Daly. I’m afraid the fact remains that the left is so enamored of Obama that he could get away with pedophilia. We are at a crossroads in American history and politics. 

    • Ahalbert

      Yes, if Roman Polanski got liberal sympathy for his behavior, there’s little doubt Obama would get away with it. And Hollywood would lead the crusade.

  • LennyPincus

    Right. On election day, 1984, the unemployment rate was 7.4%.

    Jack Welch is quoted as saying he has absolutely no evidence that the unemployment rate was fudged.  None whatsoever.

    When Obama took over office, the Bush recession was killing over half a million jobs a month.

    John Daly referring to a reality based world is the most hysterically ironic phrase ever published here.  I’m sure, however, he will managed to outdo himself soon.

    • John Daly

      Oh Lenny…

      My column was going off the premise that the unemployment rate was correct. I’m not screaming ‘conspiracy’ here.

      I’m saying that an unemployment rate that drops primarily because people are leaving the workforce is a bad, bad thing, and not worthy of any kind of celebration by the president who presides over it.

      Regarding Reagan, you obviously left out how high the unemployment rate he inherited was, and how many jobs were being created each month under his administration. The comparison to Obama’s economy is night and day.

      • LennyPincus

         Dear John….

        So you were “going off the premise that the ER was correct” yet you manage to write “Even if the number is legit…”  The passive aggressive pundit, nodding to reality then letting the gathered in on the real deal.

        Not screaming conspiracy? No, just whispering with a wink and a nudge.  “some well-respected people in the business world, including Jack Welch, are skeptical” 

        As you well know but can’t verbalize for obvious reasons, Reagan faced nothing compared to the disaster Obama has confronted.  Still, in April of 1984, Reagan’s unemployment was 7.8% and he thought he could lose the upcoming election.  That’s after four years.

        And about these unemployment rates, was Reagan “responsible” for those of his first year?  I recall that he “inherited” them from someone.  Where would I get that idea?

        The problems Reagan confronted were child’s play compared to the maelstrom Obama faced down. In that,  you are quite correct: the difference is night and day.

        • John Daly

          I wasn’t insinuating that the number was fixed. I was referring to the number’s accuracy. It’s fairly common for economic numbers to be revised after a month or so, so with such a sharp drop, a revision wouldn’t be all the surprising.

          No, my beef isn’t with the number… it’s with what the number means in context with the overall jobs situation, and our president doing a victory dance in celebration of utter failure.

          • LennyPincus

             And now you claim you weren’t insinuating the number was fixed by writing “Even if the number is legit…”?

            Why introduce the revision argument?  Changing the subject?

            As long as you brought it up, what was the revision to the original August unemployment numbers?

    • Ted Crawford

      As your Dear Leader is so very fond of stating Lenny “It’s Math, Arithmatic”. For the Unemployment rate to drop by three tenths of a  percentage point, requires that aproximately 456,000 people be removed from the list. Given the 114,000 jobs claimed in September and even accounting for the 86,000 jobs, claimed as previously uncounted, that still leaves about 200,000 UNaccounted for! What, we might inquire,  is their fate here?
      By the way, about 20% of these jobs are in the Public Sector! The budgets of our Cities, States and especially our Nation cannot absorb that increase! 

  • Iklwa

    Banging his own drum…in this case a funeral drum…dry, dusty and low keyed at best.
     
    I liken this to a fellow bragging how after having shot himself in the foot, he successfully managed to unload the weapon without shooting himself in the other foot.
     
    Too bad about that ugly stain on the floor…and the hole and dead nieghbor.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Anderson/1309721121 Mark Anderson

    Yes, John they are screwing the numbers on you, please keep looking over you shoulder, they are coming for you.  

  • nameless

    Does asl have anything better to do than to repeat his garbage around here and comment on nearly every post? Honestly, he/she/it belongs on MSNBC with Chris Matthews and the rest of the leftist nuts there. A lot of strawmen argument from this piece of trash.

    • John Daly

      It’s pure liberal angst. In the world of people like asl, there’s no such thing as legitimate criticism of President Obama.

      • asl3676

        Your blog is not meant to be accurate ..it’s meant to keep your flock ignorant….You, Goldberg and others are doing an excellent job feeding the needs of bitter older Americans….Congrats…

        • John Daly

          lol. Are you trying to hurt my feelings now?

          I’m still waiting for you to refute anything I’ve written. You can’t. All you can do is name-call.

          • ivannavi

            Any criticism of Obama is typically handled by liberals pulling out their Alinsky bible and chanting one or more of his rules. First and foremost is using name calling to denigrate the critic(s). The use of facts is not in their repertoire.

          • Deny916

            That’s what all liberals do when they can’t refute the truth, John!

    • Deny916

      I guess when als is not trying to annoy us he’s putting up obummer signs. 

    • Alden514

      maybe asl IS Chris Matthews?!?!?!

  • asl3676

    Suki Stackhouse…Tell us why you think federal policy helps create jobs? If that was the case why was economic growth and job creation so putrid under Bush? The Bush Admin created no private industy jobs…0%….Check the facts

  • Homer

    Watch out.
    The Dems can show this as a trend, and it just might be one. Even a tiny trend might be used in propaganda.
    When it comes down to propaganda, I’ll bet on the Democrats.

    • asl3676

      Facts are not propaganda but you wouldnt know that watching Fox News….You probabaly still think they will find WMDs in Iraq….

      • tjphilly

         Interestingly, Bush’s three most devastating months re job losses were the three months of hemorrhaging (700-800k/mo which Obama constantly refers too as the benchmark). When was this? The first three months after the election. Lucky for your “big-ole job creator, freedom lovin Pres’, those go on Bush’s columns. Looks like the free market had this whole thing figured out for quite a while. You and asl?…probably another 2-4 years before you all even have a clue.

        • tjphilly

           Interestingly, Bush’s most devastating months re job losses were the three months of hemorrhaging (700-800k/mo which Obama constantly refers too as the benchmark). When was this? The first three months after the election. Lucky for your “big-ole job creator, freedom lovin Pres’, those go on Bush’s columns. Looks like the free market had this whole thing figured out for quite a while. You…probably another 2-4 years before you even have a clue.

          • tjphilly

             sorry for dup posting..

      • Brett

        If you are as smart as you like to say you are letters and numbers, then you know this number reaches at least 11%. So many have left the work force because they simply (or not so simply), can not find work. You know this. This number is as true as the sky is blue. The only fact here is that Obummer is a man with no integrity and he will say anything to stay at his vacation house (the White House), another 4 years, although he has no chance to cover the rent (he has no ability, which is the required currency). You truly have nothing meaningful to say, EVER, and that is sad, to think you are that misguided. Please, I beg of you, stop wasting our space, time and oxygen. JUMP!

         

  • DB

    Strange News.  Our household just experienced a layoff notification last week.  First one since year 2008.  Signs of weakness in production of materials is triggering the layoffs. Hard to believe unemployment has dropped.

    • Mariop

      And your household is the national indicator for the condition of the economy, right?

      • Paul Courtney

        Mario, such a display of liberal compassion!  Under Clinton, you’d have felt this guy’s pain, but under Obama, a taunt?

  • http://twitter.com/MissoulaHome Kris

    As far as I have heard- the real is unemployment rate is +14% when accounting for those that have fallen off the records. When you add those that have went to disability (with no real disability) the number grows even further to a whopping +20%.

    Tell you what Mr President- let’s hold off on the celebration until we see a REAL number closer to 6% overall and America has regained its strength and vitality- where every American that wants to work- IS working and we are at the top of the trade world again- or at least on even terms with all those we trade with.

    Until then- we keep working to make it better. 

    Starting with a new Administration and Congress…

    • asl3676

      Where have you heard this..from FAUX News? What was the real unemployment rate when Obama took office 33%?

      • John Daly

        The real unemployment rate when Obama took office was 7.8%.  People weren’t giving up on looking for work only a couple of months into the recession.

        • asl3676

          Your ignorance is amusing….stay ignorant my friend….

          • John Daly

            lol. You can’t refute a thing, so you take the child’s way out of the argument. Classy!

          • asl3676

            OK..I’ll put on my legal hat….
            a) What would you like me to refute?  be specific…
            b) The unemployment rate is not the same as the “real” unemployment rate. The month Obama took office January, 2009 the unemployment rate was 7.8%…That was not the”real unemployment rate was it?
            Do you know the “real” unemployment rate the day Obama took office?
            c) Isn’t it unrealistic to consider unemployment, GDP and other ec0nomic factors to start the day a new administration takes over..a reasonable period of time to impliment solutions is reasonable isn’t it?
            If it’s not tell me why it’s not….

            BE SPECIFIC….

          • asl3676

            Obama never said unemployment would drop below 8% if the stimulus passed…Cite your source….

          • Ted Crawford

            ASL
            Obama spoke through his economic advisor Christine Romerand Bidens economic advisor Jared Bernstein. They claimed that with the Stimulus they could hold unemployment at between 8 & 8.5%, without it, they claimed, unemployment would rise all the way to between 9.3 & 9.6%. It rose to 10.3% WITH the stimulus!
            Your type of disingenious rhetoric plays with your Progressive illiterates, it doesn’t play so well with the informed electorate however!
            By the way you should love the source here ! HUFFINGTON POST – june 2009!

          • Brett

            HEY LETTERS AND NUMBERS, I SPOKE WITH YOUR BROTHER TODAY AND HE TOLD ME  HE WAS  AN ONLY CHILD.YOU ONLY CHIDE AND RIDICULE, THEREBY LOSING EVERY ARGUMENT YOU TRY TO MAKE. YOU WHO ARE NOT MY FRIEND ARE IGNORANT. PLEASE, EVERY ONE OF US ASKS YOU TO STOP WASTING OUR SPACE, TIME AND OXYGEN. JUMP!!`

  • Drew Page

    The last 44 footbal games we played we wound up getting shut out by 3o points or more.   But this week, we lost by a score of 35 to 7.    Let’s celebrate on our success.  Only Obama and his cronies would think it’s time for cake and ice cream.

    • asl3676

      Shows how deranged your thinking is……Economy has been growing as has been jobs for the past 3 years….CHECK THE FACTS…

      • Kluxton

        Just shut up about something you know naught about. I have been job hunting for five years.

        • asl3676

          looking for what type of job? Where?  How does government policy affect your search?

          • Paul Courtney

            Another example of those compassionate liberals.

      • Brett

        The fact is you can only lie, as does Obummer, because the truth shows his abject incompetence. If this economy is growing , then give me a slowdown, the reults would be superior. What an idiot for saying such things letters and numbers. Your parents wasted so much money bringing you up as, not ony a democrat, but , on top of that, a f…ing lawyer. Stop wasting our space, time and oxygen. JUMP! It won’t hurt, I promise. And so does your false god, obummer, and you can believe ANYTHING he says. JUMP!

        • asl3676

          You are just bitter and ignorant…sad…

      • Brett

        Letters and numbers. This is specific enough. A reasonable period of time is NOT four years. I perhaps. You get 2 at most. 4 and no improvement( and you said it, if we are to take your numbers…7.8%then & a fudged 7.8% now) is abject failure. STOP WASTING OUR SPACE, TIME AND OXYGEN. JUMP!!

  • AFlyer

    Will someone please tell me why the unemployed who are not looking for a job are not included in the unemployment rate.  That makes no sense to me at all.

    • Drew Page

      AFlyer  —  It’s because the government gets to define the terms.    “Inflation is down” according to the government.  Why?  Because the government doesn’t include energy or food costs, or property taxes, or college tuition in the cost of living.   Forget your food and clothing bills, forget what gasoline costs and forget what your electricity and/or home heating oil costs; they don’t go into the ‘cost of living’.    Just try living without them. 

      Those who have exhausted their unemployment benefits are no longer considered unemployed, according to the government.  They aren’t getting paychecks or working, but they aren’t considerd unemployed.    That’s like saying if you have been dead for more than two years, you must be alive again.  The government has always been afraid of telling people the truth, because people might get upset and do something about it. 

      • asl3676

        The changes in the CPI index occurred under Reagan…Check the facts…You have no clue what you are talking about but if you had a clue you you’d be in shock…

    • asl3676

      How do you know they are looking for a job? What about people who are retiring? The method of determining unemployment rates hasn’t changed in 30 years…..You want to count phantom workers when Dems are in the WH but not when GOP is in WH?

      • John Daly

         lol. Yeah, that’s it. Mass retirement is accounting for the shrinkage of the workforce.

        Ugh.

        • asl3676

          Check the facts….population is getting older…baby boomers are retiring…more people going on Social Security..these are facts…If you dont care about the facts, which obviously you dont, then stay ignorant….

          • John Daly

            Asl, the administration even has enough shame not to try and use mass retirement as an excuse… and they hardly have any shame.

            Let’s be honest… YOU don’t even believe what you just wrote.

          • asl3676

            No one said anything about “mass retirement”..I would cite you what to look at but the facts dont matter to you anyway so i wont waste your time….

  • Brhurdle

    It’s an indication of “obamarality” when enthusiasm is dependent upon a dubious number when “reality” shows us that the economy is sputtering on the edge of going back into recession. I wonder if the Fed will cancel QE 3 given the great magnitude of this good news? Does the 47% not realize that someone must keep filling the pot that they continously drain – no, they think it’s a fairy tale where they have gained “justice” over those that have exploited them.

  • suki33

    My fear is that Obama has not known how to improve the job situation, or at least has not shown that he has that as a priority, when he knew he was going to have to run for office again. Elect him again and we have 4 years of him as a lame-Duck President with little interest in jobs, except as a talking point, and no reason to improve his performance because his future won’t depend on success. 

    He’ll get book deals and speaking engagements from his adoring throngs in spite of a dismal jobs record.

  • asl3676

    Rooting for bad economic news…typically Republican…
    Did the brilliant economist Mr Daly check and see that the U.S. population is aging and possibly retiring? Maybe you can tell us how Romney will create 12 million jobs?
    Now that would take some creative writing..

    • Jeffreydan

        You are hereby challenged to show any sentences in the column where John Daly rooted for bad economic news.

        Misrepresenting stuff…typically liberal…

      • asl3676

        The basis of his argumnt is that lower unemployment is not good news because it helps Obama….Am I missing something?
        Would he have written the article if unemployment went up?

        • John Daly

          Oh brother.

          Let me ask you something:

          If an overweight person was trying to lose weight, and they reached their target-weight by cutting off one of their own arms, should others be hailing their success?

          After all, they lost weight… right? That’s your argument.

          MY argument (and this was obvious for anyone who is intellectually honest) is that celebrating the jobs situation based on a bad number that is actually quite worse, if you dig into how that number was achieved, is pathetic.

          But I think you know that, don’t you?

          • asl3676

            You are hoping for failure so you can get the Republicans back in who caused the mess…How Foolish…

          • John Daly

            lol. Sad, sad, sad.

            You totally side-stepped my analogy because you know it applies.

            I’m hoping for success. I always do, regardless of who’s in power. I’ve seen people close to me suffering under this economy. I don’t want Americans to suffer. I want them to thrive.

            We aren’t achieving success under President Obama. That’s the truth. We’re just digging ourselves a deeper hole while trying to convince ourselves that things couldn’t possibly be as bad as they actually are.

            Painting a rosy picture of disaster helps no one other than President Obama.

          • MarioP

            John,
            I hate to be telling you this, but your creative analogy does not apply to the current unemployment rate situation. Your analogy, which implies that the main reason the official U3 unemployment rate has dropped is due to people becoming discouraged to look for work, would apply if only the U3 unemployment rate would be coming down, while the U4, U5, and U6 rates, the rates which account for discouraged and part-time work seekers, would remain nearly steady since there would be a shift happening from the encouraged full-time work seekers to discouraged or part-time work seekers. But since all the rates have dropped by 9% to 13% from a year ago, that is evident of workers finding jobs and are not just being shifted from one category to another.

            So in reality, your overweight person has actually lost weight with all his limbs attached.

        • Jeffreydan

            John’s column was about putting things in perspective. There was no emotion, either positive or negative, regarding the economy. You’re seeing things that aren’t there again, just like your desperate need to find racism.
           
            Nice reach, but you failed, kid. 

    • Drew Page

      If  Obama would have approved the Keystone pipeline, allowed drilling for oil and gas in the Gulf, in ANWAR and on public lands, if he would have authorized the building of new refineries, nuclear and coal fired power plants  he could have created those 12 million jobs.   If Obama would have lowered the tax rate on individuals and business when he had Democrate control of the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives he could have stimulated businesses both big and small, made them more competitive and willing  to hire more people.   

       These are the things Romney repeatedly has said he will do and I believe him.   You choose not to believe him no matter what he says.  So why ask what he will do to create jobs?   All you are going to do is call him a liar.

      • asl3676

        Here are some facts……The President does not have the authority to drill in ANWAR, Congress does…The President doesn’t approve power plants…Congress does…If this was so simple why didn’t Bush do all of these things?
        The loss in jobs since 2007 is in the construction business not in the energy business…We are electing a President not a King…Lowering taxes hasn’t worked to stimulate the economy since 1982….WAKE UP

      • asl3676

        I believe facts or theories based on facts not political BS.. You should try it sometimes…

  • Lt Live

    When the wicked are in authority, sin increases. But the godly will live to see the tyrant’s downfall.  Proverbs 29:16 (NLT)

    • asl3676

      Why aren’t you in church instead of writing nonsense?

      • Drew Page

        Why aren’t you back in the rest home instead of wasting time here?

      • Will Swoboda

        If Lt Live thought it was nonsense, why would he be in church. Your statement is nonsense.

      • Brett

        HE AND I ARE NOT IN CHURCH BECAUSE WE CAN’T GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LUDICROUS STATEMENTS AND RANTS BEARING NO TRUTH, ACCURACY, OR SEMBLANCE OF SANITY. I CAN’T STOP LAUGHING AT YOU, LETTERS AND NUMBERS. STAY IGNORANT , YOU WHO COULD NEVER BE MY FRIEND. I CAN NOT TOLERATE STUPID, BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE FOR IT, AND THUS YOU. AND YOU JUST CORNERED THAT MARKET. Stop wasting our space , time and oxygen. JUMP!!

  • k962

    This is what Americans have been lulled into, celebrating small results of small achievers!  A GDP growth of 1.63% says it all!

    • Phil Silverman

      any help from the House? from the chamber of Commerce?

  • http://profiles.google.com/uniteusnow Charles B.

    Republicans want to take the football home.
    They are reverse cheerleaders. The cheer bad news for the country.
    Good news for the country is bad news for the Republicans. 
    Republicans lost their number 1 talking point.  

    • Jeffreydan

        Why don’t you be a good little liberal and point out any part of the column cheering bad news for the country?

        When you fail to do that, perhaps you can try claiming democrats didn’t feel that way when President Bush was in office–that’d be cute. 

      • Phil Silverman

        Like Boehner, McConnell, Cantor declaring War on the workforce to keep unemployment high thru the Election?  :)

        • Jeffreydan

            Phil: explain this “War” you referenced, please.

            Charles: what’s the matter? Did I use too many syllables in my request? 

    • Will Swoboda

      Hey Charlie, I’d hardly call a drop of .03 losing a talking point.

  • nickshaw

    Most times, when we speak of the takers and the makers we refer to that 47% of folks that do not pay any federal taxes. In some ways, that metric really doesn’t reflect the precipice or tipping point, that if we reach 51% we’ve reached the point of no return, because most of those folks are still paying payroll taxes, sales taxes and so on (as libs are so fond of pointing out!).
    The real tipping point is the labor participation rate and the numbers released on Friday are downright scary when you consider Zero has absolutely no plan that will boost employment and intends to raise taxes in defiance of his own words just two years ago.
    Dims are so happy that we are back where we started 4 years ago! It’s incredible!
    They are like Thelma and Louise!

    • Drew Page

      Nick  —  You have hit on the solution.  Replace the federal income tax with a national sales tax.    That way, those that spend a lot pay a lot, those who spend little pay a little, but everyone pays something.

  • username144

    The media has been saying for a while now that the president has no control over the economy. If that’s the case then why are they praising Obama for this apparent drop in unemployment?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2Q3UK3SZ23ED6FUW3X3MUO2TVM Daniel

      And in the same breath they claim our economic woes are Bush’s fault. Where’s the logic? Oop’s forgot were talking liberals here. 

  • Bruce A.

    Only a true failure can celebrate these unemployment numbers which are the result of  cooking the books on the real numbers. 

    • http://twitter.com/Jcdavidson37 John C. Davidson

      Well siad, Bruce. You took the words right out of my mouth. Worse people to work along side of are butt kissers.

  • Vicky060

    The 7.8 number results from the lowest labor participation rate in 50 years and results from a huge spike in part-time employment. To cite this as proof of the success of your policies is ludicrous. But then again, the entire Obama campaign makes no sense to anybody paying attention except minorities and ultra-leftists (nee the democratic party).

    • asl3676

      So genius…explain how the President effects unemployment other than to hire government workers?

      • Drew Page

        Well, one way he could stimulate the economy and help increase employment is to drop corporate taxes from 35% (highest in the world) to 25% which is an international average.   American businesses would be more competitive with foreign businesses.   another way to stimulate business growth is to repeal some (not all) regulations that keep businesses from starting up and growing.  the U.S. Chamber of Commerce would be glad to supply numerous suggestions on which regulation are the most onerous on businesses. Another way the President could help stimulate the growth of employment is to immediately approve contruction of the Keystone pipeline, take the restrictions off drilling for oil and gas in the Gulf, on public lands including ANWAR and lifting the restrictions for creating new nuclear and coal fired power plants and the building of new refineries.   THAT’S HOW A PRESIDENT’S ACTIONS (OR INACTIONS) AFFECT UNEMPLOYMENT.   AND IT DOESN’T TAKE A GENIUS TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

        • bookman65000

          Very good Drew.  I doubt, however, that such a reasoned, rational response will mean anything to as(sho)l(e)3676.  He is a unrepentant ideologue, and reason and rationality are not things he can identify with.

          • bookman65000

            Oops, typo there.  Of course I meant “an unrepentant ideologue”.

        • http://twitter.com/dwhitemd Dave White

          Don’t try to use logic with ASL, the Kool-Aid drinking liberal imbecile. The Democrats gained control of both houses in 2007. Everything since then is on them. Obama can not run on his record. Gloating over a 7.8% unemployment number (which is suspect anyway) is like gloating over improving a Grade Point Average from 1.7 to 1.9. . BTW… can we ever see Obama’s transcripts and admissions information?

          • Phil Silverman

            The House must be happy with the 7.8%…their plan from the gitgo. :)

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1480837079 Steven R. Roy Sr.

          actually the best way obama could stimulate the economy and increase employment would be to resign before the election.

          • Phil Silverman

            then McConnell and Boehner and Cantor could follow – the Koch kids who declared War on the Workforce.

      • Phil Silverman

        like…jobs bills/infrastructure bills?

        • asl3676

          And if Congress wont pass them?

  • Deny916

    I’ve said over and over that Jimmy Carter was the worst president we’ve ever had…until obama came along.  He is the absolute worst of the worst.  I mean at least Jimmy carter TRIED.  If he thinks the unemployment rate is good at 7.8–God forbid if he wins another term.  Obama is totally  incompetent…period, end of story.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Anderson/1309721121 Mark Anderson

       Aren’t you leaving out George W., why do Repubicans keep doing that?  He wasn’t even mentioned at the convention, why is that?  Cheney said that deficits don’t matter, he did didn’t he?  I guess raising less jobs then any other president since Truman makes people want to forget you.  That or losing about three quarters of a million jobs a month makes people want to forget you.  Why don’t you bring that great president up Deny916?

    • Phil Silverman

      Worst of the worst? maybe he’s gotten “help” from the worst and most obstructionist House in history, conducting a war on the workforce. If Obama is the worst, what do U say about Bush II whose programs Obama has advanced? By the way, vote for Romney: we can go back to Iraq and start new wars in Syria and Iran; along the way end Medicare and Medicaid and mae Social Security a parolor game in Wall Street.