Why Some People Defend the Word Nigger

N WordBack when I was a correspondent with CBS News I anchored a documentary called, “In Your Face, America” – about the rudeness and vulgarity that was increasingly infecting the nation’s bloodstream.

As part of the program I spent a day in Houston with a rapper who used the n-word over and over all day long.  When I sat down with him for an interview, I asked why he used the word “nigger” as often as he did.  He looked straight at me and said that he had never used that word.  Confused, I told him he had used it a hundred times that day, and asked what the heck he was talking about.  Without the slightest hint of humor or irony he said, “I used the word nigga,” emphasizing the last part, making the distinction between “nigger” and nigga.”

At the time, I found the difference foolish — and 20 years later I still do.  And even though I did that interview a long time ago, the conversation and debate over the n-word – whether it ends with an “er” or an “a” – is as fresh today as it was way back then.

I mention this because of a guest column I just read in the New York Times, written by Ta-Nehisi Coates, a senior editor at the Atlantic.  Mr. Coates is black.  Under the headline, “In Defense of a Loaded Word,” Coates says words have context.  Your dad’s friends can call him Billy.  But you, his son, probably can’t.  You can call your wife “baby,” but if your friend called her that, it would be wrong.

He’s right, of course.  But this, as you may have already guessed, is only the appetizer.  The main course is that as far as Mr. Coates is concerned it’s O.K. to use the word “nigger” – but only if you’re black.  Some blacks agree with Coates, some don’t.  And the same goes for white people.

Being in that second group, I have no desire to tell black people which words they can use and which ones they can’t.  Black people know more about black culture than I do.  Their say on the matter is more relevant than mine; their vote carries more weight.  But I know more about how whites think than most blacks do.  And on that, my vote carries more weight.

If I hear black people using the n-word, I think less of them.  If black people have a right to use the word – and of course they do – I have a right to think they’re low class when they do.  The word has a vile history attached to it.  It conjures up images, none of them good.  But it also conjures up “a deep fear of what our use of the word ‘nigger’ communicates to white people,” as Coates points out before quoting Al Sharpton on the matter.  “If you call yourself the n-word,” Sharpton said, “you can’t get mad when someone treats you like that.”

On this, the Rev. Sharpton is right. If black people feel empowered by calling their friends “nigger” or “nigga” be my guest.  But don’t blame the rest of us for thinking you’re black trash.

So why use the word?  On this, Mr. Coates is clear.  This is how he ends his column:  Nigger is a word, he says, that “tells white people that, for all their guns and all their gold, there will always be places they can never go.”

There it is!  The real reason so many African-Americans, especially young black males, feel so comfortable with the n-word, despite the fact that for many of us, black and white, it brings up memories of lynching and beatings and all sorts of other degradation of black people. White people can’t use the word, not unless they want to be seen as racists.  So it’s a way for blacks to say, “Whitey may have more money and live better and all that, but here’s one place where we hold the cards; here’s one place where we have the power.  We can call each other ‘nigger’ and you can’t.”

Mr. Coates is a bright man.  But this is not smart.  Jews don’t call each other kikes.  Italian-Americans don’t call each other WOPs.  Asian Americans don’t call each other gooks.  If we feel the need to stick it to those who found us inferior, we find better ways than to demean each other. But blacks can call each other the n-word simply because whites can’t?  Yes, words have context. And yes, the word “nigger” means one thing when a black kid uses it and something entirely different when a skinhead uses it.  Let’s give Mr. Coates that.  But does context really trump everything else?

As a white man my vote doesn’t matter all that much.  I do, however, get to think that blacks who use the word, are inviting contempt.  Or as Al Sharpton put it:  “If you call yourself the n-word, you can’t get mad when someone treats you like that.”

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  • Mathew Villalobos

    Let’s be precise here:

    After millions of years of evolution, some “advanced” human travelers from overseas captured “less civilized” humans from “Africa” and made them their slaves. Also at this time, some opportunistic humans in Africa hunted, chained, and sold their neighboring humans in Africa, to the very same oversea human travelers.

    I see your comment has some undertones of disdain towards certain humans living in “America”. As if their ancestors were bad people. Don’t forget many humans, of all colors and sizes owned slaves hundreds, thousands of years ago. The one’s who did NOT, were closer to becoming superhuman then the ones who DID.

    Some humans still own slaves today. They too are not as close to becoming superhuman as compared to the humans who currently don’t own slaves.

    Pretty much:

    Please stop perpetuating these archaic terminologies that promote such separatism. ie. “black people” “white people”

    If you can’t do that, then you are part of the problem.

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  • dansilvan

    You are not a White Man. Goldberg? Please jew.

  • Niggerlover

    What are you talking about the word nigger brings up memories of lynchings and beatings? That’s bs nobody here was a slave or was around then. Secondly, “a place white people can never go?” I will call you a nigger to your face and beat u down if u have a problem with it. So that ones shot too (no pun intended). Basically, the only proper use of the word nigger is in it’s original form: a white person calling a black person a nigger. Anything else is just ridiculous.

  • Furst Name

    I condone the use of the word nigger. Go ahead and say it. Nigger is derived from from the Nagas tribe in Africa. They would call them ngr. Although it means gods. It’s funny, so white people. Now that you know the truth. Do you still want the right to call me a nigger?

    • Hahaha

      You are in denial, lol…

  • dudley boobface

    I couldn’t agree more! When I see a NIGGER, I will always have love and happiness in my heart. And isn’t that the way it should be?

  • Ian Lovestock

    I agree! And Thank God for Trayvon Martin’s girlfriend who taught me that I could be a ‘cracka’ in a world full of Ritz crackers.

  • buckrodgers

    Anybody who takes a good look at the media and Hollywood for that matter will notice that they are dominated by caucasians who are always labeling everybody but themselves a racist, It doesn’t matter if they work in a industry that’s predominately white or if they choose to live in a predominately white neighborhoods, because as the self proclaimed protectors of minorities, especially African Americans they have earned the right to live their personal lives like a white supremacist. In the movie Mississippi Burning Willem DeFoe said If You Look Like Klan, act Like Klan and smell like Klan then you are Klan with or without the Halloween costumes, that statement defines liberals in America

    • Mathew Villalobos

      You clearly have not been watching much TV lately.

      A more precise statement would be:

      Gay jews own hollywood.
      They are desperately trying to influence the masses into promoting the value of tolerance. In a very contrived and inorganic manner.

      I’ll go ahead and stop now, I misread your comment.

  • Red47

    It would be interesting for these N word people to meet normal, successful blacks and be taught by them how to chisel the chips off the shoulders.

  • PatricParamedic

    I happen to live and work in a highly mixed-race city, and I can honestly say the only people I’ve heard – in decades – use the word “nigger” are Black folks.
    So my take is this: Knock of the ultra-hypocritical “I can say a word that you can’t say because of your skin color” yammering.
    Because until the Black segment of society put their collective foot down and demand the word cease to exist as part of their common vocabulary and garbage music lyrics – I for one am not impressed that the word truly offends them.
    Otherwise, your indignation is fake.

  • Ditto

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  • potemkin_village_usa

    PORTRAYING MEGYN KELLY AS ‘RACIST’…..JON STEWART SPINNING STRAW-MEN INTO POLITICAL GOLD!!

    __The Fallacy of false choices: IF Santa Claus and Jesus are ‘Ethnically-White’ in Megyn Kelly’s estimation, THEN she is a racist according to the questionable inference by Jon Stewart. This is a false choice which also doesn’t prove its premise. According to the United Nations ethnicity tables, Hebrews are ethnically Caucasian which in common vernacular, are White. It would be argued that Hebrews aren’t ‘White’ but rather a light tan color; which is a denial of common usage portraying Caucasians as ‘White.’ Jesus was a Hebrew, therefore Jesus was White. This is not to say that Jesus cannot be portrayed in other ethnicities because he has and is being portrayed as such. However, by merely stating the fact that Jesus was ‘White’ does not make one racist, it just makes their statement factual.

    __Santa Claus has been historically and traditionally portrayed as a little ‘White’ elf with red cheeks. He’s portrayed in songs through the centuries as a little man with rosy red cheeks with the illustrations that go with these songs showing a little pink skinned elf with rosy red cheeks and in most cases blue eyes. The Coca Cola trays that I have in my kitchen show a jovial looking ‘White’ man with blue eyes and rosy red cheeks and a snowy white beard. Presently, we can view ‘Rosetta Stone’ language course and Mercedes Benz commercials on television showing a chubby ‘White’ man with a beard. Political race baiting; the “N” word notwithstanding. Go Figure!!

    • dudley boobface

      Jon Stewart is very Nigardly

  • http://cogitarus.wordpress.com/ ★✩★ David ★✩★

    Best column I’ve ever read by Bernie — EXCELLENT!

  • http://theromancatholicvote.com/ catholicvoter

    We move around the country for my husband’s job. Moving from NJ to CA, I fell in with a nice group of conservative women and one day, fooling around, I said on the phone to one of them, “How are you doing (b-word that means female dog).” She actually thought I was angry at her and couldn’t figure out why. She was so unaccustomed to this type of talk among friends, that even after I explained to her that I was teasing her, I’m from blue-color NJ, etc., she still kept asking people if I was mad at her. I’ve outgrown such foolish talk, thank heavens, but I remember it because from where I’m from, that kind of talk among friends indicated that you especially liked the person.

  • mcweijun

    One of your best Bernie! This issue has always bugged me. Maybe we should start calling ourselves Crackers, excuse me, Crackas and tell them they are no longer allowed to use that word. Look out for the Knockout gamers, aka polar bear hunters. The comanda in chief sure seems reluctant to address this one. Now, they not only have the right to call themselves niggas, but they have the right to knock us out if they feel like it. I hope my racist remarks have not offended anyone.

    • Kevin Schmidt

      that’s ok I live in nyc and here every year there is an annual African – American festival and they have the nerve to change the American flag to the African colors and march with it. and the Spanish people are supposed to speak English to become a citizen but 90% still speak whatever language they feel like. this country was born on immigrants and am all for it but they can at least have the common decency to speak the national language which is English not Spanish not Russian not polish. this country don’t care about what it was founded on anymore and its a shame.

  • Zebulon Yegaboski

    From the time Johnny Carson used the word with Richard Pryor and Pryor called him on it, it became even more powerful. It’s a repugnant word and should, like any word, be used very judiciously. But it should be used by anyone, white or black. It is a first amendment right. Like burning the flag. As soon as you forbid using a word, it becomes even more powerful and will not stop it’s use. I remember a black female comedienne had a routine that I paraphrase: “We should name a snack food “niggers” It would take on a whole new meaning. “Who’s bringing the Niggers to the party?” Racial division thrives and using, or not using the word is not improving our lot. The race baiters like Sharpton and the political class depend on it.

    • keith hart

      Zebulon, you make good points. There are so many facets to this little societal ‘jewel’, my focus changes on it from day to day. However, as far as burning the “Stars & Stripes” is concerned. My position is unwavering. I ‘support’ burning the flag — so long as that person wraps themselves in it first.

      • T Ko

        Keith, let me know if you see this comment.

        • keith hart

          I see “Keith, let me know if you see this comment.”
          But that’s all. Is there more?

          • T Ko

            It is how to enter some symbols.

            ♣♠•◘○◙

          • keith hart

            T Ko , thanks I got it. Pardon my low tech. I hit alt 257 now in Unicode mode. How do I find the special characters? Also, how do I return to normal mode.

            another question, if I may. How do you delete a post here?

            Can a photo be posted?

            again pardon my low tech.

          • T Ko

            Pardon my sparse explanation. You have to hold the alt button down while typing whatever code (257, 258, etc.) on the numeric keypad. The Unicode symbol should appear when you take your finger off of the alt button.
            You will be in “normal” mode unless entering a Unicode symbol.

            The only way I know of deleting at this point is to edit, select all of the text, then enter something, a number, letter, Unicode symbol, and then save the edit.

          • keith hart

            T Ko, Thank you for your help.
            Shall we go see if Jeff has taken down l.e.’s post

          • T Ko

            Yes, but in the interest of keeping Ted in the dark, please edit your comment so that these hints are then gone. Thanks.

          • keith hart

            Will do.

          • T Ko

            Did you try it?

      • T Ko

        C’mon Keith, I’ve got something to share.

        • keith hart

          T Ko, go ahead.

          • T Ko

            Cool, I’ll remove this after it is posted and you’ve seen it. Let me know as soon as you do.

            Try typing: Alt 257, or Alt 258
            try it

          • T Ko

            It is called Unicode.

  • Lloydl333

    Webster’s Dictionary (used to read) says: Nigger – Dull stupid person.
    Nothing about color. I don’t use the word but as a very astute black gentleman once said to me,”If I ever am concerned by what someone calls me or says about me, if I ever think I did not get a job because I am black, I am defeated.” He was a great guy and was working for a top advertising company. Blacks need to spend more time working on their community and less time sitting around being offended. PC is the biggest waste of time that any of us can spend. It is time to grow up in this country. PC has become an industry.

    • Sheila Warner

      Dictionary.com’s definition: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nigger?s=t

      Merriam-Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nigger?show=0&t=1386021897

      Use more than one dictionary! They both refer to dark skinned people.

      • Lloydl333

        I was schooled back when WEBSTER”S was our last word. I have several dictionaries, thank you. I stated “USED TO.” Please read it again.

        History has been rewritten and often not even taught anymore.

        • Sheila Warner

          Sorry, I did misread your post. I thought you meant you were referring to a “used” dictionary, as in out of date. But if you don’t use it anymore, why reference it at all? BTW, in what year was the most recent Webster’s that you utilized? I can’t say one isolated dictionary definition, with the date of that definition unknown, can be used to indict all of history taught today. In my childhood and teen years, we used Merriam Webster or Oxford. I’m 58, so that was a long time ago. I found that Webster’s was too shallow.

          • Lloydl333

            My point was: The original work had nothing to do with color.

            We keep changing history and the meaning of words. Say it like it is. We keep outlawing words and their meanings. No wonder we are going insane in this country.
            People take offense to almost anything. Some people need to get a life.

            I do not accept white guilt. I took a beating defending a black. As a police officer, we learned to Ignore names.

            It is the Blacks that use the word. Most of us try not to say things that offend.

            I look to see where a person is coming from,more that what he says.
            I think you have a good heart.

            I am a little older than you and probably not as educated. My experience has been very educating though.

          • Sheila Warner

            Lifetime personal experience is a powerful influence on our world view when we are grown. The reason I engage with people here is that I recognize that I have certain filters from my own experiences. It’s good to talk with people who have more knowledge and different experiences. Everyone has a story. It’s what makes American great. I want to know what others think, and why they thing that way. You were a police officer? Good for you. Thanks for your service. I pray for all of our law enforcement personnel, firefighters, and first responders all the time. You all are heroes.

          • Lloydl333

            I post to blow off a bit of steam and I do like to see what other people think. Most post show me that people are engaged. Good thing.

            Question: By chance are you related to any Warners in Indiana or Minn ? I have a few friends
            in those states.

          • Sheila Warner

            I’m married, so Warner is my husband’s family. As far as I know, all of the Warners are in the NJ area.

          • Henry

            Lloyd I’m sorry. You may think you remember that, but unless you produce evidence, I suspect you are misremembering. In any case, since the word is a corruption of “negro” deriving from the Southern pronunciation “nigra,” your attempt to make it’s history color-neutral is pretty silly.

            Even if some dictionary, somewhere, once defined it without *mentioning* it’s being a derogatory racial term, we all know (you included) that it was and is used as a term of racial degradation. So, unless you are a very naive man who lived in a virtual bubble up until now, you know that the term is and always has been a racial one.

          • Lloydl333

            I have my High School Websters Dictionary to my right and above my desk. I can read.

            My point is: People have added and changed the meanings of words and re-written history tiill we don’t even know WHO we are anymore. I don’t buy into some people can call a name (good or bad) and some can’t. If called a name…..If the shoe fits, wear it. You don’t effect me be a name. I can make any word offend. Get it? I look to see where a person is coming from not what they say. I don’t call anyone a name I know will offend or hurt. Nor do I take offense if called a HONKY. If I did, who would be the fool?

            Henry, don’t over think things. It makes a person tired.

  • keith hart

    Over the past ten years, I seem to spend alot of my free time walking the ground at Gettysburg. I’ve walked Pickett’s Charge from the staging area on Seminary Ridge to the Angle — takes about 17 minutes.

    Geez, did those Rebs have some set of balls. They knew they were about to step into eternity and they went anyway. By the time the survivors reached the Angle, we had to call up re-enforcements to repel them. Even though we had been firing from superior defensive positions. And with my rifled long barrel I was dropping Rebs two hundred yards out.

    And the chanting was eerie, ‘Fredericksburg …….. Fredericksburg ….. Fredericksburg ……..”

    We couldn’t kill them fast enough.

    I get it. I get that those Rebs weren’t fighting to defend slavery — hell, there probably wasn’t a one among them who could afford owning a slave. They were fighting against their homes being invaded by us damn Yankees.

    The tragedy of it all is so damn palpable and poignant, it still lingers over that ground to this very day.

    What is it I feel walking these grounds?

    Having served, I have my own battles to contend with. Nothing like bullets whizzing past your head to get your attention focused on some next level thinking and what’s truly important.

    So, what is it I feel walking this ground? I feel ashamed and proud all at the same time — go figure.

    I suppose this to figures into race relations in America.

    • D Parri

      It is the fabric of our nation. Many trials and tribulations have were spent and endured in order to bring us to where we now stand. That’s why it is so vital in securing the future of our nation to take the time and look at where we have been.

      Are we better or worse for the sacrifice? Do we honor our forefathers by our actions today? Will our acts that we carry out today be worthy of honoring by our descendants?

      Our history and our future have met and they named it “Today”.

  • PaleAle

    Personally, I think we need to bring back the word. This runaway thuggish behavior, that is celebrated in the black community, needs a little shaming. As it stands, any criticism of these touch-me-nots is verboten, and we have seen the results as this behavior has proliferated.

    • DaveNice

      That statement communicates a very basic ignorance of this history of the n-word.

      The “needs a little shaming” is just purely paternalistic. How about cooperation with the mainstream black community? Shaming, really?

      • PaleAle

        Cooperation with the mainstream black community? You mean groups like the NAACP? They’ve so politicized the problems in the black community that any notion of working with them is a complete waste of time. It’s time for the black community to get it’s own house in order.

  • keith hart

    I truly believe the bottomline to solving race issues in America is found within the fabric of the nation itself: who we all are.

    It’s this: when people are looking to get a job done, they hope for the best to come and do the job. They hope they’re gonna get a little lucky and get the best. When they do get the best, they don’t care what that person looks like.

    Its worked for me — my entire life.

    • legal eagle

      R-E-S-P-E-C-T? You can earn it by answering the question, my suddenly verbose friend. Who is paying YOU to come up out of nowhere and attack me?

  • T Ko

    Hooray for that Grandma! What is needed are more good role models and teachers like her that can lead the young people down a better path.

  • Wil

    Hey, I just saw Bernie on the O’Reilly Show. Bernie has got himself a new face. How about that!

  • legal eagle

    ol I am very well paid and no one needs to pay me to post here. But since you who just burst upon the scene, bring it up, perhaps it begs the same question of who is paying you to post here?

    • T Ko

      Who the F*** are you talking to? I am extremely well paid to post here and anywhere I want to post. So what?

      • legal eagle

        So you admit it then. So who is paying you?

        • T Ko

          How much are you willing to pay?

          • legal eagle

            2X what you are worth

          • T Ko

            So that would be at least ten times your total value. Fair enough.

          • legal eagle

            It would appear someone has hacked my account….These are not my comments…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            You are correct. Just checked on this. It was “I Hate Fascists” posing as you. Knowing how that idiot thinks, I’m pretty sure he was working on getting you banned so he could substantiate his baseless, ongoing claim that we ban the liberals that post here.

            Luckily, he doesn’t know your email address, thus we can distinguish him and ban him based on his IP and not by an email.

            The guy is completely gutless. He’s in desperate need of a life.

          • I Hate Fascists

            And you who call yourself a moderator? You are a moderator like a referee in a pro wrestling match. Instead of preserving the decorum you add to the mayhem

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Exposing posers doesn’t add to the mayhem. It restores integrity. You can go ahead and look up that last word if you like. I’m sure it’s completely foreign to you.

          • D Parri

            Yeah, he has just now tried to lure me into one of his mentally unstable tirades. The only viable alternative to deleting his posts are to ignore him.

            The only problem with trying to ignore him is it gives a sense of tacit approval of his garbage comments.

            Whatever his outcome, he’s earned it.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Banned? Quite the opposite. I’m trying to get you the respect you deserve. You no doubt noticed that the abuse came to an abrupt halt once you called them out

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I can’t think of a more obvious symptom of mental illness than pretending to be someone else, attributing false comments to them, then expecting to be thanked for it.

            Truly amazing. That’s a stellar peer group you’re part of, legal eagle.

          • I Hate Fascists

            As long as you continue to be gutless and delete my posts (and hijack the thread with off topic posts in a feeble attempt to defend your gutlessness) I have no choice but to resort to extreme measures

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Oh, I’ll definitely leave this one here, so your little threat will be on the record for all to see.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Are you smoking crack or are you just in a drunken stupor? Cool your jets Sheriff John Daly. There is no threat except in your confused paranoid drug addled mind.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Extreme measures? It absolutely WAS a threat. Again, I’ll keep this on the record.

          • I Hate Fascists

            You mean like ‘you wouldn’t say that to my face’ is a threat? You are one sick bunch that Proprietor Goldberg has assembled. You will keep this on the record? Why not keep all my other posts that you deleted on the record as well? Speaks volumes of your gutlessness.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Please elaborate on these “extreme measures” you plan to resort to.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Oh Jesus. There are no extreme measures that I am going to resort to. I have already resorted to them. By posting using a name that you would not delete. ¿Comprénde?

          • I Hate Fascists

            You deleted this one? You are a disgrace

          • I Hate Fascists

            Oh Jesus. There are no extreme measures that I am going to resort to. I have already resorted to them. By posting using a name that you would not delete. ¿Comprénde?

          • I Hate Fascists

            And don’t delete this again you pathetic little mouse of a man

          • D Parri

            You know, the easiest way to have it not go on record is…don’t say it!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            He can’t accept the fact that he’s no longer allowed to post here. Once he started posing as this website’s writers and posted racist rhetoric in their names, we ran out of patience for him. He knows this, yet he clings to this site like a junkie to heroine and continues to act all appalled whenever his posts get deleted.

            His behavior is as bizarre as anything I’ve seen on the Internet, He needs to grow up and move on.

          • D Parri

            You know, J, what you said tells me two things that appear to be clear with this guy.

            First, he is a coward to pose as someone else and hide behind their identity in order to spew his garbage. Second, there is some sort of ‘fix’ that the guy gets from following that type of behavior. The feigned self righteous indignation is probably part of that ‘fix’.

            I agree that he should move on.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Hiding? I’m right here bro

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            He’s undoubtedly a coward. The guy even had his wife email me to complain about his suspension. Actually, considering his history, it was probably actually him posing as his wife.

            Poor lady.

            He definitely has an inflated sense of self-worth and a desperate need to preserve his fragile ego. That’s why he keeps coming back. In his view, someone doing something as mundane as booting him out of a discussion forum (when he did more than enough to deserve it, BTW) is an action worthy of vengeance, when it should be something he just shrugs his shoulders at, maybe learns something from, and moves on with his life.

            I think all of us have probably been moderated before on the Internet. Heck, someone banned me from responding to their tweets on Twitter the other day, merely because he didn’t want to hear a conservative’s perspective.

            Big whoop. I moved on about five seconds later. I sure as hell didn’t tie my self-worth to the incident and make it my life mission to somehow seek revenge.

            Again, IHF is probably the most bizarre character I’ve ever met on the Internet.

          • I Hate Fascists

            I don’t tell my wife what to do. Quite the opposite.

            Just admit the truth. You cannot outhate me. You cannot out debate me. You cannot beat me. So you must delete me.

          • D Parri

            Yeah, I don’t know why they choose this format for fighting the fights that they’re always supposedly looking for. I guess a physical encounter probably is way beyond their capability so these forums are a lot more appealing to them.

            When individuals like IHF say things such as “Hiding? I’m right here bro”, they know that it will go nowhere and they will likely be screened. They are hoping that will give them another round of feigned self righteous indignation to use in trying to sling mud. Pathetic.

            I almost would like to know if he EVER says anything constructive, but . . . no, I guess I don’t care.

          • I Hate Fascists

            First you call me a coward. Then you say I am looking for a fight. Neither is true. What I am is a liberal who, unlike other liberals that post here, doesn’t tolerate your abuse. And that is why you delete me and not them

          • D Parri

            I’m afraid that you’ve got me pegged all wrong, bud. I have not deleted anyone’s comments and for you to say that I did is nothing but a lie. I do not have any use for liars.

            So, do us both a favor and go find some wall to beat your head against–you’ll be just as successful and probably a lot happier.

          • T Ko

            I don’t know why you mess with idiots like that…they DO lie and they ARE out for a fight. Just pay attention, they’re not gonna’ say anything without takin’ a swipe at someone–but only if they are conservative.

          • I Hate Fascists

            I am not a liar I just misspoke. I meant to say Daly and the other cult leaders of this Fascist Fantasyland delete me. Of course you couldn’t have deleted me. You are just a dumb cult follower.

          • D Parri

            Have you ever said anything worth listening to? You are a real idiot because you have a chance to engage in a conversation and all you ever want to do is sh*t in your own nest. You ARE an idiot, a liar, and obviously a d*ckhead. No, that’s not a duckhead.

            You won’t get any more responses from me…you are not worth the time.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Yeah and Sheriff Daly always deletes it. Flattery will get you nowhere peacock.

          • T Ko

            Hey, a**hole…didn’t you read what D Parri told you? He will not respond to you because you ain’t worth his time and effort.

          • I Hate Fascists

            What are you? His parakeet? Ok I will just abuse you then. Flattery will get you nowhere pinprick

          • D Parri

            Maybe he’s a masochist…because he posts here so often yet he complains about the “abuse” he receives. You’d think that he would be more interested in having a good conversation with someone rather than being knocked around all the time. Poor, deranged fellow.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Believe me, I’ve considered the masochist angle. lol.

          • I Hate Fascists

            You are obsessed with me. Admit it.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Wrong. First you deleted me for confronting you with the truth. Only then did I post comments in your name to get even.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Just admit the truth. You cannot outhate me. You cannot out debate me. You cannot beat me. So you must delete me.

            I don’t tell my wife what to do. Quite the opposite.

          • D Parri

            I’ll drink to that! Oh, wrong thread…I mean…I’ll smoke crack to that!

          • D Parri

            Why can I still read this deleted comment of yours? Is it a ‘ghost comment’? Spooky!

          • D Parri

            Oh, I think Legal Weasel gets ALL the respect he deserves. Boy! He really called them out…didn’t he?

            Yeah…right.

    • Integrity

      Happy Thanksgiving LE! Cut me some slack! I am just a motivational speaker who happens to live in a van by the river. QED

  • D Parri

    Off topic, but . . .

    GOBBLE! GOBBLE! Happy Turkey Day!

    • keith hart

      It’s a day I especially thank God I was born an American — if I can’t be an Australian……… just kidding about the Australian thing.

      And it’s a day I especially thank God for Mr. Lincoln allowing my family to fight in the 54th Massachusetts in South Carolina.

      • D Parri

        I didn’t know until yesterday that it was Mr. Lincoln who set aside the last Thursday in November as a day of thanks and issued a proclamation which established the day as a national holiday. Mr. Lincoln was without question a man of destiny.

  • Integrity

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! QED

  • Sheila Warner

    Excellent, as usual, Bernie. I, too, have an opinion that causes me to see those who use that word as being low class. How much blood was spilled to eradicate that word and all that it symbolizes from society?

    • D Parri

      From my childhood days that was never an acceptable term to use.

      It seems so ironic that nowadays there are blacks that use some form of it in their everyday speech.

      I think that it has de-sensitized a lot of people from what impact the word used to carry.

  • Gclefginger

    Another application and food for thought: The derogatory term for females, that is also used to describe a female dog, can be used with flair by gals but s insulting when used by a guy. Noted that it is in no way equal to the n-term and its associated history.

    We like using words for power and impact. But don’t we lose so much when we don’t use creative phrasing rather than vulgarity? I remember the little movie “Roxanne” in which the Cyrano character challenged his opponent to find twenty ways to insult the size of C’s nose. I would challenge others, and myself, to find clever ways to use new words and phrases for great impact. And to Bernie, I love your commentaries, because they do just that (even when I disagree) and have impacted my thought processes.

  • D Parri

    Nigger.

    Ok, I was trying to find out why yesterday I tried to post a comment regarding the derivation of this word and it would not post. It kept showing up as having to go through the moderator.

    Finally I posted the comment by removing the “g” and replacing it with a “*” (asterisk) and giving an explanation within the comment.

    Strange.

  • happel

    An urban youth once explained to me another culture within the Big Apple that believed in using nigga as a useful acronym, not a reminder of its negative connotation and slang and commonality often heard. N.I.G.G.A. – Negroes Intent on Getting Goals Accomplished. I found this refreshing. I asked if he called his peers ‘nigga’ or ‘nigger’, to which he said, “Not usually. I prefer to take the negative connotation and make something positive out of it.”

    • D Parri

      Nigger.

  • legal eagle

    Always funny, if not irrational. when old folks comment on black culture….Maybe Bernie can discuss this subject on Real Sports with Charles Barkley?

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Uh, aren’t you an old guy who comments on black culture, legal eagle?

    • KStrett

      Ignore all the points he made and call him old……. great argument!

      PS. You forgot to point out his is white. In the liberal attack book calling someone old and white deflects all logic and reason.

    • T Ko

      LOL! Always funny…LOL…when stupid people…LOL…try to make a strawman argument…LOL…and they sound so foolish! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!

    • Josh

      Black culture cannot be commented on by old white folks? Seems a bit racist. Why so separatist?

      • legal eagle

        Comment on anything you want….If you have a need to comment on subjects you have no knowledge of, right wing websites are the place to be…

        • Josh

          Why can’t someone old, white and right-wing have “knowledge” of black culture?

  • buckrodgers

    The fact is I have been called a lot worst and this myth has been told by white journalist in the liberal media so they can keep their institutions lily white, hide their own bigotry and keep African Americans supporting White Democrats on election day, If you want to see the real racist in America then take a good look at is the skin color, of Democrats in Congress, the liberal media and Hollywood, who have denied African Americans their most loyal supporters a seat at the table of power. that’s why President Obama is trying to change the Democratic party and the lack of participation by African Americans in mainstream news outlets and Hollywood.

    • keith hart

      There is no more insidious racism than liberal white racism: the hidden soft bigotry of low expectation bought off by empty promises.

      • KStrett

        Frederick Douglass is rolling over in his grave….

  • RoscoeBonifitucci

    Good article. Well written. It exposes the one thing of Wisdom to EVER come out of the mouth of Al “Blacks are Victims” Sharpton: “…Or as Al Sharpton put it: “If you call yourself the n-word, you can’t get mad when someone treats you like that.”

    God Bless you Bernie.

  • D Parri

    “Ni**er is a word, he says, that “tells white people…”.”
    (replace * with g)

    There you go, it is (per Mr. Coates at least) intended as a racist statement. What??? You can’t call Mr. Coates a racist because he is black?

    That is where too many people go wrong. Racism as a concept is…well…non-racial. However, the person in the political arena who invokes ‘racial outrage’ is all-to-often committing a race-based slandering of their opponent.

    Hopefully, the self-righteous indignation of those responsible for a ‘manufactured crisis’, of sorts, will be recognized, neutralized, and eventually marked as lies.

  • D Parri

    Interesting, I cannot use the same word that Bernie uses–the moderators pull my comment when I do. That’s why I do not use the n-word. Just replace the * with g.

    I think that is the most common understanding of its derivation.

    The word is a variant which stems from the Latin nigrum (black). The etymological variants “negro”, “noir”, and “ni**er” are further variations of the Latin “ni*er”.

    Spanish derivations are “ne*er” and “ne*ar”, and the Portuguese form is “ne*ro” (black).

    Many usages have been applied to each of these variants, depending upon the contextual intent and purpose. Cultural, racial, and social contexts have all been used, and vary from pejorative to neutral, and intra-group denotations to inter-group exclusions and inclusions.

    In today’s culture, race is clearly the core element of character defining the word itself, but its contextual usage varies greatly.

  • LHS

    My “real”, truthful comments were apparently unfit to post per the PC Disqus censors. It’s worse than I thought.
    Good bye.

    • Ed

      Me too. My post had nothing wrong with it except for…well…. you know. Frankly I dont understand how to reply to this topic with out using the letter that comes before O. (So silly isn’t it all?). Oh wait!!! I disagreed with Bernie!..maybe that was it?

      • keith hart

        This whole topic is consternating. My advice, if I may be so forward, Ed, is when you see a big pile of dogsh3t in the middle of the sidewalk … don’t deliberately step in it.

        • Ed

          I deleted my comment, as after quite a long time, they decided to put my previous comment up. so the statement no longer applies. Now, that being said, Keith? can you taste what Bernie had for breakfast?

          • keith hart

            I guess I had that one coming — huh? I can be a real jack3ss.
            What I want to say is, be a little cautious about what doors you knock on. Your reasoned logic is not going to persuade the dark emotion driven forces that are in play here. Better to stand back and let it burn itself out or run out of ammunition, whichever comes first; or, the police are replaced by the hundred and first.

          • Ed

            Keith….. why dont you just come clean and say what you want to say…leave the ambiguity out.

          • keith hart

            No sarcasm here, Ed. I’ve said what I have to say on this. Just be gracious enough to accept my apology.

          • Ed

            No no no….I was serious. I think I misunderstood your point before. I was confused that you were even apologizing, I assume I read you wrong.

          • keith hart

            I was apologizing to you because I had no right to offer unsolicited advice. It was arrogant of me. My point was be cautious on this topic of race for you leave yourself open to attacks from those who prefer the vile and vicious to reason and logic.

          • Ed

            Cant separate your sarcasm … if any….see what I mean?

    • LHS

      I stand transmogrified. Disqus actually posted my uncomfortable truth from a day ago. Thank you. Maybe there is hope.

  • LHS

    Teli it, Bernie. I feel like like I’ve known this man for decades.

  • wally12

    Bernie: I realize that the blacks may use a word if they so choose to identify with their own crowds. That doesn’t make it right and they shouldn’t use it since it sends the wrong message as Al Sharpton points out. However, blacks are not the only group that changes the meaning of words to fit their agenda. Many groups do the same thing. The gay community and many on the left have no problem changing the meaning of the word “marriage”. Most people recognized that marriage means the union of a man and a women. It has been recognized for much longer than the N word and it signified a wholesome agreement. Then tell me what right has the gay community and the left received to change this long held meaning. I have no disagreement with the gays to form a legal union and even to receive the same benefits as married couples. But to steal a word and change its meaning is wrong. They have a right and duty to coin their own word and its meaning.

  • garbo77

    Hi everyone!

    From what I’ve been reading, blacks are their own worst enemy. I understand that they are killing each other at a rapid rate. I guess using the N word is part of that in a smaller way.
    I’ve read some of the comments here and as we read, we hear about how the blacks need to get with the program and make a way for themselves by getting off welfare, etc. That is true, but it’s not only the blacks that need to quit living off the tax payers, but the whites and others, too!

    Has anyone given any thought to how long this world can go on at the rate of dependency many have on others to pay their way by? At the rate people are living more and more off others, it will only be a short time until there will not be enough people working to support the free loaders. I understand that there are legitimate needs for some to be cared for, but you and I know, probably more than one person that is able to work, but living off those that still have the integrity to work for a living. And by the way, the “wage earners” are both black and white. And, of course, there are other races and nationalities that are working for a living. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a higher percentage rate of whites that are on some type of government program that is paying their way than are the blacks!

    Whites have plenty of examples to look at in our ancestors that did well for themselves and they should have because they were free to do so. However, for the blacks that feel inferior or just don’t want to make it on their own, I encourage you to check out black history. For example: Madam C.J. Walker (Sarah Breedlove) was the first woman to become a self made millionaire. She died at the age of 50 in 1919. She not only was the first woman, but a black woman. Place into your browser on your PC or go use one at the library: “Black Inventors and their Invention List;” gives a very long list of black inventors. Another to put into browser: “101 Little known black history facts.”

    What is really interesting to me is that many of these black people that succeeded were back in the 1800′s and some in the 1700′s. With all the racism and handicaps they made it and made it big time.

    Folks, bottom line: This world is a mess and there are messed up people of all races and nationalities. We, as Christians, need to fervently pray for them and for our leaders. Verbally bashing them will gain nothing, but prayer will change things. And I’m talking about people praying that have a personal relationship with our Savior Jesus the Christ; people that are not just talking the talk, but walking the walk, as the saying goes! Prayer is what will cause people to start changing. And when we make contact with each other, let’s start showing each other love and friendship and a helping hand. And those that receive the “helping hand” be ready to put forth effort to help yourself! Receiving Jesus as your Savior? Romans 10:9-10 and 1 John 1:9. Enuff said?

    God’s Blessings on you and yours!

    Dr. Gary

  • Ronwald027

    I like the point RussFelix is making, but where does that take us?

  • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

    This is off-topic, but it’s a related to something that’s been discussed in this thread and others lately…

    For the liberals who post here and claim that their opinions are somehow being suppressed, I think it’s worth mentioning that the top two posters on this website are Phil Silverman and Legal Eagle – both committed liberals. They each have nearly 2000 comments under the belt, which is more than double of the next highest commenter.

    So, we can hopefully put to rest this silly notion once and for all. Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming…

    • D Parri

      Please be aware of their scheme for amassing such great numbers.

      Write short, terse comments. Always be antagonistic in order to assure a response. Do not be concerned with logic…anything goes.

      • D Parri

        BTW, my numbers rank third and I give most of the credit to those A**holes you mentioned. You can shy away or you can meet them head-on. It’s your choice.

        • keith hart

          I vote head-on.

          • D Parri

            That was my choice also.

            However, when they turn the comments toward an attack on me personally, or they employ the petty garbage that has nothing to do with the article or debate at issue, then I don’t even try to maintain the topic line.

      • keith hart

        it’s more to it than that, D.

        • D Parri

          KH, yeah…I’ve wondered about that before. You’ve actually hit on what I’ve been suspecting for a long time now.

          Based upon the general scheme that his comments follow, Legal Weasel is a disruptive entity that never adds to the conversations that get started. His strategy is to try and annoy a commenter and ultimately draw the person away from any worthwhile participation in discussing the issue.

          By that measure, he is successful simply whenever someone engages him in an exchange. When no one participates in an exchange with them then they fail.

      • kayakbob

        I realized some time ago that most of the truly ugly comments are a function of someone discovering their “voice”..their outlet, for perhaps, the first time in their lives. So they post obnoxious comments to express a lifetimes worth of frustration.

        Most of it says more about the person writing than those they think are “listening”.

        • D Parri

          KYB, yes it speaks volumes about those people who are always on the attack, and it appears that their line of offense is so unimaginative that it actually becomes boring.

          Healthy debate can be beneficial to all involved, but the ugly comments and incessant attacks based simply on party lines doesn’t help anyone.

          Correction…it might help the ones trying to ‘sharpen their claws’ for the next attack.

    • keith hart

      Mr. Daly cut it out. How can anyone be so gullible. But, if you’re being sardonic, pardon me. l.e., the sneering deceiver. He’s paid to post on this site to be a disruptor on this site. It’s a well known leftie practice.

      • Joe Adams

        Silverman & legal beagle are paid to post???? By whom? If true, somebody is getting ripped off!

        • Josh

          They pay each other in esteem bucks.

          “You’re the greatest!”

          “No. You are!”

          “No, you!”

          “Oh, stop, you.”

          Currency of the future.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol

        • keith hart

          DNC dirty tricks, California state Dems coffers, or is it a private Soros group funding source — nail it down yourself, if you must. It’ s a common practice lefties employ on all conservation websites.

          Have you ever asked yourself — if l.e is genuine why doesn’t he ever advocate his own political beliefs, contributing to the forum discussion instead of always and only posting sneering derision — that’s not his job.

          Also check his post time stamps. He lives on this website. If he’s a practicing attorney where does he find the time to live on Bernie’s website? Silverman, I don’t know, you tell,me. Reread my post, I didn’t say anything about Siloverman.

          Joe, no one is getting ripped off. All is fair in politics. I have no complaints about l.e. being a paid leftie disruptor. In fact he adds spice to the stew.

          What MY concern is here: genuine posters to the forum should know what’s really going on. I swear sometimes I think conservatives are the last ones to realize what’s happening.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>DNC dirty tricks, California state Dems coffers, or is it a private
            Soros group funding source — nail it down yourself, if you must. It’
            s a common practice lefties employ on all conservative websites.<<

            I don't doubt it happens, but I don't know if/which libs who post here are in that category. Do you know how to find this out?

          • keith hart

            Yes. By their actions. Silverman, I doubt it. Because he expresses his political beliefs and stands his ground defending them.

            l.e never expresses his political beliefs. His posts are sneering, derisive, driveby pot shots. When one of his snotty drivebys’ inspires a genuine forum member to post a well written post such as Ted Ned did a day ago on this very article — a poignant piece on school vouchers — l.e. never responded, even though Ted Ned asked for his response.

            The only time l.e. engages in lengthy exchanges is when a forum member loses it and gets into exchanging insults with him. That just makes l.e.’s day and satisfies his employers.

            Let me say this, I in no way espouse any restrictions on l.e. Let him serve his purpose: an irritant that can inspire some next level thinking.

            If you are looking for courtroom evidentiary rules of evidence. I post on NewsMax. There is a standout, prolific conservative poster over there who suspected a leftie, paid disruptor. He had a computer wiz friend track the disruptor’s IP server address, hack his bank acct and track the source of two monthly direct deposits back to a soros organization. He posted his findings.

            I’m not about to do that. Its likely illegal and prosecutable.

            My advice is be aware of what’s going on. Use l.e., the disruptor, if you want, to inspire next level thinking — if that’s your persuasion. But, do not get sucked into trading lengthy sophomoric insults. That just makes his day and allows him to do his job to his employers satisfaction.

          • T Ko

            You are so right!

      • T Ko

        Yeah, I notice that LE backs off from that game quite often.

      • I Hate Fascists

        Disruptor? Disruptor of what exactly? Your Obama hate fest?

    • Brian Fr Langley

      Since reading your post, I’m feeling cursed,
      that damn legal eagle’s come in first,
      though not terrific,
      he writes prolific,
      if he could argue, my day’d be worst.

      • keith hart

        l.e. lives on Bernie’s website — around the clock. check his time stamps.

    • Ed

      My complaint is that conservatives don’t get proper representation in arenas of discussion. And I mean real conservatives, not those silly over paid talking heads on FOX News.

      Years ago, when I would call into a talk radio program, i could actually get ON and join in on conversation. Today, if you call Sean Hannity (for one example) the first sentence you hear from that ANNOYING girl that answers the phone is- “Lookin’ for a Liberal”, and if you so much as deviate from her plan, and I mean one….single….word…..she rudely hangs up in your face, CLICK!!, Next caller- “Lookin’ for a Liberal”.

      This btw has been Hannity’s M.O. for many years now, THAT, and how all day long we need to hear him say how “Ugly & Fat” he is, so all the teenage girls will call in and fawn all over him. This sort of silliness had me shut off years ago.

      • keith hart

        This is precisely the reason why its important to lefties to disrupt genuine conservative forums. I hope you’re following this Mr. Daly. I guess you weren’t being sardonic afterall.

    • D Parri

      John, since you are interested in the volume of comments I think you should also take a look at the volume of votes. Legal Weasel is almost 800 votes in the hole when comparing his number of comments to his number of votes.

      Now I don’t know how you look at that but in judging how well-received an individual’s comment was judged I am impressed when I see someone with 10, 12, 14, etc. votes. It leaves me with a completely different impression when I see an individual with -4, -6, -8, etc., votes.

      Based upon that, Legal Weasel is now around -770 . . . not very good.

      • brickman

        I judge an argument’s validity on the argument itself, not on the up or down arrows.

        • D Parri

          Oh, you mean like this one…
          “And then they cut to Megan Kelly’s legs.”

          Now, that’s a real valid argument…you’re a real gem aren’t you?

          • brickman

            A comment on Fox’s priorities. Not my best . BTW, it’s Megyn Kelly.

          • D Parri

            Hey, you couldn’t help it…it’s what liars and hypocrites do by nature–and that’s your nature.

          • D Parri

            Hey, you couldn’t help it. Liars and hypocrites just have it in their nature–and that’s your nature,

          • brickman

            Now I see what a valid argument looks like.

          • D Parri

            Oh, is that where I quoted your comment and then you corrected me for your mistake?

            To wit:
            (your comment)
            “And then they cut to Megan Kelly’s legs.”

            (your comment)
            “BTW, it’s Megyn Kelly.”

            But…you are right to correct yourself. Good argument!

          • D Parri

            Yes, you are right to correct yourself. Good argument!

            to wit:
            (your comment)
            “And then they cut to Megan Kelly’s legs.”

            (your comment)
            “BTW, it’s Megyn Kelly.”

          • D Parri

            Oh, is that where I quoted your comment and then you corrected me for your mistake?

            To wit:
            (your comment)
            “And then they cut to Megan Kelly’s legs.”

            (your comment)
            “BTW, it’s Megyn Kelly.”

            But…you are right to correct yourself. Great argument!

      • keith hart

        Forgive my ignorance concerning internet business. If I may ask a question? Does the volume of postings effect the advertising rates a website can charge advertisers.

        • D Parri

          To be honest, K, I don’t know the answer to that one. However, I would think that it would probably be based upon the site’s traffic–postings and all.

          Actual postings do indicate interest in the articles…even though a great deal of them might come from the likes of Legal Weasel, Phil Slivery Man, and Broke Man.

  • RussFelix

    Bernie, If the ‘context’ argument is valid for the ‘n’ word then it should also be true for racism in general. That is, there is good racism and bad racism depending on the context. This follows from the good and bad usage of the ‘n’ word from context. Good and bad racism is understood but not talked about. Good racism might be protecting members of a race that is being persecuted. Good racism might be helping to advance the members of a race that have been left behind economically, Bad racism may be persecution of members of a race, bad racism may be standing in the way of the economic advancement of members of a race.
    In between the understandably ‘good’ and ‘bad’ racism there are many degrees of race related thought and action that are either good or bad depending on context.
    As in the use of the ‘n’ word, context is largely the experience of the individuals involved. If we accept the contextual argument then we must realize that most racial arguments are bi-contextual, in that experience is different for each race. ignoring the bi-contextual nature of using the ‘n’ word is ignoring reality. .

    • Joe Adams

      What?? Poorly elucidated argument.

  • keith hart

    There are only two kinds of people in this world. The decent. And the Indecent.

    • Joe Adams

      I can understand that.

  • ScranunSlim

    While we’re at it, let’s eliminate from the public discourse the other n-word — “negativity,” the too-too word favored by Arizona Senator John “Reach Across the Aisles” InAne, who’s too dense to know that it’s the exact word that every Third World thug-kleptocrat uses to justify shutting down his country’s newspapers — they were filled with too much “negativity.” McCain-Feingold is nothing more than Mugabe-Spungold

  • bobheb

    If they use it, that is what they are.

  • Florida Jim

    It is not a word I have ever used although I grew up with blacks and played sport with them. My Father and Mother never used the word so we didn’t. Many people I knew might have but when I didn’t they rarely used it around me. I find if you don’t swear others tend not to swear and if they do they apologize to the non-swearer.

  • Tirtza

    Actually this feeling of it’s only my group that can feel this way, I can relate to.
    As a Jew, I’ve witnessed many of my people identifying with a persecuted label,whether it be Holocaust or carrying gas masks around as a kind of badge of persecution. No one would deny that there is not persecution of both blacks and Jews in our world, unfortunately, but for both it is more constructive to get on with the life-fulfilling aspects that exist within both our cultures.

    • Joe Adams

      Your extreme sensitivity leads you down a garden path of stinch filled roses.

  • I Hate Daly

    Sherriff John Daly is back from a week of pulling his pinga and doing obscene things to his furry friends! And HE’S FEELING MEAN FOLKS!!! Liberals watch your mouths! DALY IS BACK AND HE MEANS BUSINESS!!!

  • artymgysgt

    I don’t know how long it took for people to go from Negro, to colored, to black, then African-American and now call themselves the n- word. Does Obama use that kind of talk around his friends?

  • buckrodgers

    The Democratic Party, the liberal media and Hollywood are predominantly white and their always the first to play the race card against Republicans, White Americans and courtesy of the New York Times White Hispanics who disagree with them.

    • keith hart

      Liberal white racism, the most insidious kind of all: the soft bigotry of low expectation.

  • Ronwald027

    I too am shocked by Oprah’s overseas comments. I don’t doubt the existence of racism. That Oprah thinks that the white population is “marinated” in racism is racist itself. If people of any color want an excuse for their lack of success they can surely point to racism. I just want to know how Oprah or Barack explain their success.

    • Joe Adams

      Oprah would say the answer to that is simple. They were able to rise above it!

  • keith hart

    Mr. Goldberg, have you noticed how light the posting is on this article? Glaringly light, wouldn’t you say? Ok. I’ll take a shot at it. … I don’t care what Blacks call themselves. There are more pressing concerns in the African-American community.

    The high number of single parent(women) families — if you can call them that. The high black- on- black crime rate — makes you wonder if Blacks don’t really like each other. A strong bias threading thru the community — ‘education is acting too white’ — try selling that one to the Asian-American community. Urban street gangs becoming so powerful and heavily armed they need to be re-categorized as enemy combatant militias. Becoming a military matter, no longer a criminal justice matter.

    It’s another five hundred years for all the racial issues to resolve. So, in the mean time — what? If you see a big pile of dogsh3t in the middle of the sidewalk — don’t deliberately step in it. Yeah, I’m Black, check that, African-American, check that— American.

    • Rich Mann

      More pressing concerns? Yeah, how about voter suppression? Voter id? Elimination of early voting? Suppression of voter registration? Elimination of polling places in minority neighborhoods?

  • RickonhisHarleyJohnson

    I hadn’t thought of it in those terms. Make sense to me, Bernie. Thanks.

  • BexarKat27

    I understand his position now – specifically after learning, during the George Zimmerman trial – from Trayvon Martin’s elegant former girlfriend that I am a “cracka” as distinguished from the C-word.

  • D Parri

    It is really an ignorant point that Mr. Coates makes. If I choose to use a racial slur it is because I want to use it. Personally I find all racial slurs offensive regardless of the user. They are intended as a slap in the face to someone else, but the slap in the face intended by a black person using it is different than the slap in the face when a white person uses it.

    Make no mistake, all people are inherently racist–if to no greater degree than simply recognizing their own heritage. Greater divisions based upon race have been employed with some extremely nasty results. Tolerance of others who appear different from us is the key to integration of any kind.

    Obama is the most divisive president that this nation has ever known and that is not a compliment. The impetus he has employed has been, in part, racial in nature.

    • T Ko

      I would say that he is ready to use the race card anytime he gets down in the polls. He uses others to play it though, such as Oprah recently, and that makes him a coward as well. Tell me that doesn’t tend to divide our nation. I thought the president should try and be a unifying influence.

  • Paul Courtney

    Bernie: Blacks certainly have taken that ground, they can say a word whites can’t. Sincerely wish I, or anybody, could persuade blacks how much more they could have in 21st century America, where racism is no longer a serious impediment to their opportunities. It’s still around, no denying, but it’s not really holding blacks down. What is? Maybe settling for empty victories? Hey, why no stories yet re: hacking healthnayer.gov? I think hackers are worried their identity gets stolen.

    • legal eagle

      “The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”

  • paulbopko

    Blacks that use this word are telling whites to drop dead.

    • T Ko

      Well, I just refuse to drop dead. Period.

  • disqus_xhoTljOoA4

    This is intellegent rationale? To call each other names that lower your status as a human being. Unbelievable!

  • DebC

    I’ve been saying this for years. I used to kick people out of my restaurant years ago for using that word, especially directed towards their children. Twenty years later those kids came back to thank me for being tough with them. “Nobody else was calling me out on anything.”

  • brickman

    Sorry but is this the best topic you can come up with?

    • Ron Bon Jovi

      Touche

    • Jen

      This topic is relevant right now since the Queen of Racism came out accusing whites of disliking the President and accusing him of lying because he is black. Actually, the President is a liar that is why we think he is a liar. This Presidency is an embarrassment to our country and the citizens who voted for him should be ashamed of themselves!

    • T Ko

      Ok, not sorry…that’s the best comment you could come up with?

  • ted

    “Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never harm me.” I was told by Mom and Dad, and it is true. But liberals have turned this around to strike fear in the hearts of Republicans. I am embarrassed to be one, but the other is worthless and killing our country.

    • D Parri

      “Sticks and stones…”? Smith and Wesson is more effective.

      • Frank

        That sounds like a threat!!! Calling Sheriff Daly!!! Get off your butt and bust this turkey!!!

        • D Parri

          What? Who is threatened by Wesson cooking oil? And speaking of turkey, have you ever fried them in Wesson? Deep fried? Delicious! (I heard)

          • Frank

            Heard you went to a turkey shoot! Did you get shot?

          • D Parri

            Frank, I’ve never shied away from the prospect of a good shot…tequila is my preferred.

          • Frank

            Are you smoking crack too? Or are you just in a drunken stupor?

          • D Parri

            Why…both! Is there a problem? Hey, a Toronto mayor’s gotta’ unwind sometime doesn’t he?

          • Frank

            I wouldn’t doubt it

    • Kevin Cousins

      Ted, it is true that liberals – make that progressives – are killing our country, but why does that embarrass you to be Republican?

      • keith hart

        Why are they called progressives? Just because they want to be called that? Regressives is more accurate. Why? Because they are anti-growth, anti-opportunity, anti-liberty, a passion for societal authoritarian control reminiscent of feudal times. Is there really any difference between ruling elites and ruling nobles?

        Perhaps, we should stop calling them what they would like to be called. And call them what they really are: Regressives.

        Conservatives are such blunderers — sorry.

  • Wheels55

    Very insightful.
    A topic where there are no winners.

  • A Virginian

    Good commentary – I feel exactly the same way about this issue.

  • Shane

    If blacks continue to use that word so frequently, then any person should be allowed to use it. It is a shame that white people lose their jobs for using a word that most young black people hear hundred’s of times a day. Can we really blame the Eagles Riley Cooper for using that word when he was drunk when he has literally heard that word thousands of times from his black teamates and from rap music?

  • Joh

    I lost a lot of respect for Oprah Winfrey for the way she decided to paint an entire generation of Americans as “marinated in racism” and that we will “just have to die” for that racism to end. I am deeply offended that she would not only say those things, but say them in a foreign country. She went on to say that the office of the President had been disrespected because people disagreed with the president publicly. I contend that Mr Obama has done a pretty good job of disrespecting the office, all on his own. No sitting president had EVER appeared on “entertainment” TV like the Tonight Show and its ilk before Mr Obama decided to break that tradition. He has gone on to show up on every venue, except Fox, of course, like it’s “open mike night”. He went as low as showing up on a program called “the pimp with a limp”. If that alone does not “disrespect the office” I challenge Ms WInfrey to say why not. It has been said that Ronald Reagan would not enter the Oval Office without his jacket on. We know now that Bil Clinton not only entered without his jacket, but also without his pants. Among the first photos taken of President Obama in the oval office was one of him with his feet up on the desk. Respect for the office? I say hardly

    • legal eagle

      What an amazingly stupid comment…..

      • Joe Adams

        Yeah, Joh started out with a valid point, but rambled on to nowhere. I think the point he tried to make was that Oprah used the standard copout excuse of “racism” rather than articulating a more thoughtful reason for why so many Americans don’t trust Obama.

        Btw, the term “copout” originated from the standard police practice that is used to charge someone with possible violation of any law when they do not have something specific to charge them with.

      • T Ko

        What an amazingly stupid person . . . !

  • Randy

    I am white and hate the word. It hurts. But hey, if Bernie and Al can agree on something, maybe it was all worth it.

  • steve b

    SHARPTON IS THE LAST PERSON TO GO TO ON THE WORD “N–GER”. WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP IN THE DICTIONARY THE HAVE HIS PICTURE THERE.

  • jcofla

    I am old enough to remember when the term “colored” or “negro” was pointed out as being offensive. I also remember that the “N” word was ALWAYS considered offensive. Well, that’s unless it was used by an old white southerner as a term of endearment (i.e. we just love our “N” word” Sadie, she take such good care of us and the children). But even then it was
    considered by most as highly offensive. I could further go on and expound of
    how my church pastor and evangelist father, who I believe created what we now know as “community service” for punishment had me shoveling snow for shut-in parishioners for a number of weeks for mistakenly using the N-word myself one time. And that was when I used the term “N” rigging” in his presence.
    But I digress. Back then people of many, if not most heritages, agreed and embraced the term “black” as being the one and only acceptable standard of reference, myself included. But with my being, as Bill O’Reilly says, just a “simple guy” I can’t remember when it was that the term “African-American” became the new standard. I do remember, however, that at the time I wondered about it. I remember thinking, is the celebrity professional golfer Gary Player not from Africa (albeit South Africa)? Is the celebrity actress Charlize Theron (who was prevalently in the spotlight at the time) not from Africa (albeit South Africa)? Both, to my recollection, had a considerably light complexion. My grandparents were European immigrants and my parents, my aunts and uncles along with my many cousins and siblings were born here. I don’t think ANY of us considered ourselves as European-Americans and only even thought of it while filling out a form of some sort (usually governmental in nature) asking about our nationality, which would require a check in a box indicating Caucasian or White. My late wife on the other hand was born in Cuba. She would become highly bothered (but not necessarily offended) when people referred to people of Spanish decent as being in a race called Hispanic. She would quickly point out that “Hispanic” was/is not a race. She pointed out that those considered Hispanic could be of European (from the country of Span) decent, they could be of South and Central American decent and/or African descent. She had an extremely light complexion but she would point out that there were many professional athletes, celebrity major league baseball players for example, who had dark completions. But they would all be lumped into the category and considered Hispanic. Go figure.

  • independance41

    Mr. Goldberg,
    Good commentary.
    The n-word will never go away. It’s there and will always be used to pit whites against blacks. One political party in particular enjoys its existence and waves it around like a badge on honor.
    But like all verbiage over time the n-word could change meaning.
    I think the n-word will find a new usage transcending race. It may have already started. An example of this is where a boss supervising both white & black workers use of the n-word in this instance referring not to race but rather a disgust with the shirker (the lazy no-good-for-nothing) workers. These people who feel entitled to be paid just because they showed up. There are many other words in the dictionary to describe people like that, but it wouldn’t be all that out if line with the words original meaning, or its intonation.
    There is no shortage out there of, white, black, tan and yellow skinned people who qualify as “lazy no-good-for-nothing”. There are tens-of-thousands more who work, do a good job and are proud of it.
    Chalk up the difference to human ego. Ego is what people are surely full of.

  • Paul

    It is a double standard. They feel that they can use the word . But if a white person uses that word they are racist

  • rbblum

    A word that African-Americans express freely as being ‘their own’. . . . which would be bewildering except that so many African-Americans would rather be considered to be ‘African-Americans’ first and foremost as opposed to simply being proud to be considered as being an ‘American’.

  • Shhhhh!

    I’m so afraid of offending anyone, I’m not saying anything. I hope my silence doesn’t offend you.

  • deathoffreedom

    If JFK was here today he would be considered a conservative with his Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, Ask What You Can Do For Your Country, Obama and the Dems want people to let the country do for you, let the Gov take care of you, bath you, feed you, put you to bed, wipe your butt, Gov will make others pay, the rich, the successful, the hard worker. People need to understand everything this President does is taking freedom bit by bit, it is all about power and control of the people, that is what the ObamaCare is, control of the people. Just like the Fall of The Roman Empire it can be just that The Fall of the American Empire, all because people have become lazy and willing to sell their freedom for a Gov check.

    • garbo77

      Yep, you got it!

  • jackoujo

    I think there is a major cultural change taking place with that word. I saw Sheryl Underwood perform in Fort Lauderdale, FL on Friday night and she tossed around that word many times while giving a very funny and educational stand-up on that in our society.

  • Ksp48

    Black people know more about black culture than I do.

    So Black “culture” consists, at least in part, of the conscious degrading of ones self. How interesting.

  • lemonfemale

    But gays call each other queer. The stated purpose of Queer Nation was to take the stigma out of the word. In town there was an Italian lady who owned the WOP shop. Context is all. A coworker called me her “N word”. I thanked her. If I called her mine, it would be completely different as I am white. And Bernie is free to believe that blacks who call each other that are lower class. -whatever the black equivalent of “redneck” is. It’s just another reason why we should adapt our conduct to our audience.

    • Shane

      No, it is absurd that blacks get upset when they hear a non-black person use the N-word when they hear it hundreds of times a day. Black people should stop using the word.

  • ClarenceDeBarrows

    Bernie: Did my earlier comment get scrubbed?

  • Guest from Ca

    A word is a word! We are the ones who attach negative or positive meanings to it. I am sure most of us have been called names at one time or another. But we
    are in a world where we have allowed ourselves to be controlled by the GOV
    and groups as to what we can think, say or look at.
    For me there are larger issues. The illegality of taxes, the prolific ness of drugs
    that kill us, being allowed to vote with no ID, ObamaCare, the whole name calling between left and right, the forced immunization of children,,the fact that
    children are forced to endure 14 years of “education?”
    So, no, Betnie is not an old man as a previous poster says. Bernie is simply…
    truthful and yes, he has a vote as a White Man to speak his truth. The best thing we can do for each other is to honor another’s view . For me….that
    is what being American means. Happy Thanksgiving!

  • redride

    I’m a black man and I agree with Mr. Goldberg 100 percent. But the reason it happens is because the white man effectively taught blacks to hate each other during slavery by giving some privileges over others as a means of control (Django Unchained, though exaggerated, illustrates this well). This mindset was passed on through generations. Intelligent people like Mr. Coates, who know better, do a disservice by giving ammunition to those (such as many rappers) who don’t know any better.

  • gold7406

    The different choice words is really perplexing. The changes that have occurred
    in the culture have been astounding. In 50 years of music, the country has gone from “My Girl,” to “My B….” and no one blinks an eye.
    I suppose it’s the same cultural dilemma of native americans calling their women squaws and then pale faces calling them squaws too.

  • trailbee

    Many years ago, while working for Mack Trucks, one of my white co-workers from the South, used the n-word. She absolutely could not understand why the rest of us went ballistic. I changed jobs to an upscale department store, where one of my black co-workers used the words “niggerin’ around” when describing her less-than-faithful boyfriend. She could not understand how I, personally, perceived the meaning of the word.
    You are correct. When my white friend said it, even whites objected, but when my black co-worker used it, she could not understand what was wrong with it – it was just part of her culture. It was like another colleague from Hawaii using “aholes” for visiting mainlanders to Hawaii. We don’t call each other that, ever.
    Very perceptive. Thank you.

  • legal eagle

    Does Bernie really think Blacks, Hispanics or anyone else cares if he thinks less of them?
    Bernie seems to not understand the distinctions between ethnicity and class status in America….The N word is a matter of rebellion among younger people…
    Face it Bernie, you’re getting old…LOL

    • Tim Ned

      First, Bernie said he doesn’t have a vote on this. Secondly, I remember the Olympic Athletes raising their fists in defiance at the Mexico games after being awarded their medals. This is a sign of rebellion. I’m not sure the N word fits this. Perhaps you can elaborate and educate us old folk.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        I think legal believes that pure self-deprecation is somehow a form of rebellion. Would love to hear his logic on that.

        • D Parri

          I believe that he’s more into the self-defecation form of kicks.

        • legal eagle

          Self deprecation? What are you talking about?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Look it up on dictionary.com

          • Integrity

            This is unfair. He is incapable of recognizing any subtle nuances. He thinks way to literally for that. QED

      • legal eagle

        What happened when Tommy Smith and John Carlos raised their fists and expressed their right to free speech? White America went bonkers as it did when Ali refused induction…Who do you think Nixon was referring to as the silent majority?

        • Tim Ned

          Not I. I saluted them for their stance at the Olympics as well as many other whites in American did that are old white guys today as you state. Many of us who were younger then were very active in the civil rights movement. But I still don’t understand where this historic event relates to the N word.

        • Jeff Webb

          The real issue wasn’t so much that Carlos & Smith had rights under the First Amendment or that they exercised them. It was because in their exercising of those rights, out of any number of ways they could’ve effectively conveyed their message, they picked one that showed glaring contempt towards the USA.

          And, it wasn’t white Americans who went “bonkers,” so you know. It was Americans who respected their country, no matter their color.

          Wow. Another prejudiced comment from you. Shocker.

          • legal eagle

            Either you are not old enough to remember or you have memory loss….Middle America was scared to death of the Black Power Movement, the Anti-War movement and any one who sought to change the system ie. Muhammed Ali…
            Did you grow up in the Midwest with your head buried n the sand?

          • Integrity

            So now people from the Midwest are morons and racist? This post is a flaming example of how ignorant you really are. Very sad to say the least. QED

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Middle America was scared to death…<<

            That's quite an improvement over "White" America. Gotta give you credit; posting comments sans references to people's color is quite an undertaking for you.

            I've lived in 2 states my whole life, on opposite sides of the country, both liberal hotbeds. I'm not sure how this fact in any way makes the two athletes' actions respectful of America, or their detractors 100% white.

          • legal eagle

            You can parse words all you want …..Peaceful protest is always disrespectful to some….particularly right wingers who like to wrap themselves in the flag…

          • Jeff Webb

            The moment the two men picked to display their black power salute was during the playing of the national anthem. That is disrespectful of America, whether or not you share that view.

            You apparently have a bigger problem with white Americans (who also happen to have Constitutional rights) who disagreed with it than the black Americans who did it–more power to ya regardless.

          • legal eagle

            The real issue was that a racist, anti-Semite named Avery Brundage was running the Olympics…..The AOC had the same lack of balls that they had in 1938 when they wouldn’t allow Jews to compete in Munich…

          • Jeff Webb

            Fascinating. It’s like you responded to a comment I never posted.

            When I said “the real issue,” I was referring specifically to the reason “White America went bonkers,” as you put it.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      >>Does Bernie really think Blacks, Hispanics or anyone else cares if he thinks less of them?

      Did he say they should? He’s expressing a viewpoint. People can react to it however they like.

      >>The N word is a matter of rebellion among younger people…

      Okay. Who exactly does that rebel against? Employers who might otherwise hire them?

      >>Face it Bernie, you’re getting old…LOL

      Uh, legal… He’s barely older than you are. That being said, what exactly makes you more in tune with young America than he is?

      • D Parri

        I think someone is forgetting a very important point. When it comes to jerks like Legal Weasel, who cares what they think?

        He might or might not be old, but he’s always been an idiot.

      • legal eagle

        a) I reacted the way I liked…
        b) Young people rebel against a system they believe is stacked against them….dead end, low paying jobs, crappy housing, only way out of poverty is to win the lotto.
        c) I do volunteer work with inner city kids coaching sports…The mean streets of the inner cities of America are a world apart from the American dream. I’m not an expert but Bernie Goldberg commenting on the subject is an absurdity…..

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          If they were truly “rebelling” against a system stacked against them, they would be over-achievers. Willfully living up to society’s low expectations isn’t rebellion.

          And there’s nothing absurd about looking down on someone who uses the n-word.

          • keith hart

            Excellent point, Mr. Daly. Thank you. That’s precisely how other ethnicities climbed out of those ‘mean streets’.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Thanks Keith.

          • Patrick H.

            Wouldn’t that be living down to society’s low expectations? Other than that, you’re correct. Cheap rebellious acts like dressing like thugs, using misogynistic, homophobic, and racist language (such as the “n” word) is not rebellion. It’s acting foolish and to call it rebellion would insult the abolitionists, slaves, and Civil Rights activists who resisted and fought against the systems of slavery and Jim Crow.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Ah yes. I suppose “low” expectations makes more sense. Thanks!

        • Tim Ned

          Then I suspect that you would support “School Vouchers” as some of us old conservative white guys support. The greatest gift us old rich white guys can do is give young poor kids a path out of the ghetto. All of the issues you state they face is a result of crappy government programs. My grandchildren will go to private schools unlike my own kids that went through public schools. Because they are better and because I have wealth. I want to share that wealth and I want school vouchers. You are right, in many cases the system is stacked against them so Lets change it. These ghetto kids are stuck with same crappy schools that offer no hope and have not for the past 40 years. So support us conservatives and push for school vouchers. But you won’t support something so simple and logical. My wife is part of a group that raises money so these kids can get out of the schools they are in and get into good private schools. These kids change from being street thugs to star pupils in a few short days. The transition is enormous when they have teachers and communities that support them.

          • keith hart

            Ted Ned, excellent post. Thank you. Just reading what you’ve written is an inspiration. Of course you’ll never get a response from l.e, you hit the truth dead-on and that’s something l.e. can’t deal with.

        • T Ko

          a) MOST people react the way they like
          b) young rebel against MANY things
          c) there are tons of people who volunteer to help others

          So, what’s your point? You’re an expert on absurdity?

    • Paul Courtney

      Hey, Pigeon: Do you really think Blacks, Hispanics or anyone else cares if we think not at all of you? You seem to not understand the word “distinction”, or for that matter, “understand”; or “the”. Your stark, hateful ageism is not fit for civilized discourse. Moderator, please!

    • T Ko

      Hey, face it…you’re still stupid!

  • Sam

    How is it that when blacks show racism towards whites, it’s somehow not racism?

  • aloyisious

    Historically speaking, I wonder if any other period had this hangup with words and how they were used. One thing I do know about is the terrible complexity in Japanese and Korean languages in dealing with higher-ups. Are we heading to some form of that, but not kowtowing to a physical leader but paying obeisance to some abstract thought?

  • Jesustheonlyway

    Words do matter and for once I guess I agree with Al Sharpton – but not carried away. The man is a charlatan. I once called out two black girls for using the n-word at work. I told them I didn’t use the word and did not appreciate them using it around me. They changed the coarse of their conversation.

  • Alexander Shaskevich

    When are you gonna call Oreilly a crackerboy?

  • Haaseline

    Bernie…being a converted jew to christianity you just took that step out of the boat to see if walking on water is truly a miracle!! Being fair the last guy to do this was walking out to meet his jewish friend!! An incredible piece of journalism with real life experience to back it up. Its when this moves from color and religious to class warfare ( which is already there ) that this becomes an issue even our Government won’t have a handle on. I believe liberal America is using class as a means to temper race, & religion, but may be the issue facing an America of many colors & religions! Always great to see you walking across the ocean of Journalism!!! Of coarse the truth sets you free and freezes the pond!!!

  • Alexander Shaskevich

    Bernie you should say to Bill Oreilly “What up with my crackerboy” Do it on the Factor.

  • beniyyar

    I fail to see how using denigrating expressions regarding race, ethnicity, or religious affiliation gives a person some sort of “power” or specialness. What is disturbing is that since Barack Obama was elected President racial issues have become more disturbing and disgusting and more damaging to the body politic than ever. The President has only inflamed passions in this regard rather than try to dampen them, just look at his reaction to the Trayvon Martin affair and the Black professor stopped by the police, Obama encourages racism, racial demagogy, and racial hatred among all Americans.

    • legal eagle

      Another victim of racial hatred…give me a break with your whining…

  • deathoffreedom

    We have Black Judges, Lawyers, Senators, Congressmen, CEO’s, Supreme Court Justices, we elected a Black President and believe me if all white people were racist Obama never would have been elected, it was the white people who also voted for Obama so again we have come a long way and it is getting old that Blacks constantly want to keep slavery alive. Well then why don’t they see how Government is making them slaves all over again, encouraging them to not get a job but to live off Gov entitlements, keeping them down and dependant. Many Blacks told Gov to go to hell and they are the success of success, so those who choose to go around and scream about something most of them Never experienced need to get over it and do as their grand parents did, make something of yourself for unless you are under the hand of the Gov for your welfare you are no longer a slave. Look to those who made something of themselves, worked hard, earned their own and did not take from others, those are the people you should look to not the Al Sharptons who work for the Gov to keep his own people slaves.

    • 1940voter

      Obama wearing the cloak of civility has done more to hurt race relations then if he had been defeated because he was black. His and the Justice dept’s use of race to either jin up or down issues is a clear play to blacks and minorities for support and the increase in poverty, food stamps and other gov’t entitlements is a direct corellation to this policy.The msm slings the race card like it was a boomarang and always tars anyone disagreeing with Obama as a racist. It is the only argument they can make for their support of him.

      • deathoffreedom

        Very true this President has divided the people and he continues to divide, he will never unite. If the people really wanted to see just how helpful this Gov is then say all who are on Gov assistance can not vote, you would see the Gov pull back so fast your head would spin, they would not give any HELP, there would be nothing in it for them, imagine the needy would get zero help from the Gov if they could not vote. That is why this Liberal far left group spend so much signing people up on entitlements so that they can get enough to keep them in power forever, once they can get 51% of the people on entitlements they could remain in power for who knows how long. Thing is we have lost the Dream of America, people are content with being lazy and taking from others, they have no problem living off the Gov. There was a time in America when people had pride, they had love of Country, Family, God and they wanted to work and take care of their own. Now, we have allowed Hollywood to spew their immoral behavior, we say we don’t like it, but we all continue to support them, make them rich, and they do as they please, not John Wayne or Henry Fonda anymore, we have lost our way as a nation of morals. Once this Gov can get rid of morals, patriotism, and God they will go full force with socialism or communism and they are working now in the schools with the young teaching them that America is not that great, you have to give what you have to those who don’t have, the have nots of the world, choose to be have nots and they have no drive in them to better themselves because why should they the Gov pays them to be have nots, the Gov encourages laziness, and the Gov is making them all slaves to do as Gov says, or you won’t get your check. Until the people wake up and remember the cost of Freedom, those who loved this country with every breath in them and died for this Country, until people get back their pride and turn to God for help not Gov, it is God that instills in all of us a heart to help those who need help and the people do a far better job than Gov. People need to get mad, stand up and say no more of Gov propaganda in the schools, killing the very things that made this country great, Love of Country, God, Family, and the values we once had. Otherwise people will just becom sheep to the wolves who intend to rule them.

        • 1940voter

          People are afraid to speak up or disagree with Obama because of the very phony scandals that he jinned up with his fake outrage over the IRS. The administartion putting out talking points about Obamacare for discussion around the dinner table at Thanksgiving smacks of communist thought police. This adminstration is about control. They control the national media and with 1/6 th of the economy now in govt hands with healthcare they want more. FRom school lunches to soda drinks they want it all.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    I’ve seen several documentaries, where they say we’re really not sure where that word came from? How about Spanish for black. Negro. The pejorative version is kind of a pidgin English version. The unhappy truth is, just the fact your skin color was black, was pejorative enough, the words did NOT need to mean more than that. A view held by many whites right into modern times, was a black skinned person was in and of themselves inferior. A view widely spread throughout modern times by the so called consensus science of eugenics. (based on evolutionary theory) It held that blacks were simply less evolved. Today real science (genetics) has proved conclusively that humans (all humans) are direct descendants from a single lineage. That is, we really are all brothers in our humanity. Like all pejorative’s, first demean, then dehumanize, then objectify, then demonize. Four easy steps to murder. (just ask Hitler) Like Martin Luther King Jr. said (and I paraphrase) let’s judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. Unhappily these days, character is sorely lacking no matter what your skin color is. Even worse (it’s perverse racism) is excusing a lack of character based on the color of a persons skin.

    • JRawl

      I always thought, and read somewhere, it came from Niger, the
      African country that a lot of slaves supposedly came from or through on their way to this country.

      • Brian Fr Langley

        I’ve heard that as well, but the word for black in Spanish or Portuguese, is negro. Since the Portuguese and Spanish (located just a skip and a jump from Africa) were heavily involved as middlemen in the slave trade (they were the wholesalers so to speak) it should come a no surprise they called their stock negroes. (blacks) As an aside the producers of this execrable industry were the Arabs, while the consumers were Europeans and Americans.

      • D Parri

        JR, I’m sorry for the multi-posts of the same information. This forum application kept appearing to remove my comment each time I posted it, saying that it was being “moderated”.

        Just wanted to add a little to your comment…I first thought it had something to do with the people being referred to as having been of Nigerian descent. Oh well.

  • JRawl

    Being born in 1947 and growing up in the segregated South, the use of that word was rampant. I never really thought anything about it, because everybody said it. It wasn’t until I was having a conversation with my young black friend and playmate (yes, I had black friends), and his sisters, that I was told that word was demeaning and hurtful to them. From that time on, I decided to never use it again, and it always made me squeamish when others did, no matter what their race.

  • deathoffreedom

    It is sad, all these years later we have hate. If God were to strike us all blind tomorrow you would not judge people by their color only by their character, what you would feel from them, when will we learn that there are those in the Black community that want hate, they want to keep hate going, they use slavery as an excuse for their hate. They will have to speak to the man upstairs one day and explain why they kept hate going. If people had less hate a more God then there would be an improvement. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson they don’t help with the hate, they encourage it, if we all got along together those guys would have to get a job and so you can see why they want the hate to keep on, they keep racism going. You put a bunch of 4 year olds in a room of all nationalities and they hold hands, they play together, they hug each other it is God at his finest, it is people that teach racism, it is people that keep hate going and it is those people who relish in this behavior that should be ashamed and one day will have to justify their actions. Many people suffered in the far past, Christians, Jews, Indians, Hispanics, many suffered and yet only the Blacks think they suffered worse and that we should all pay for their suffering generation after generation. Jesus paid for all the sins of man, all the sins, so it is time to stop using slavery for where you stand in life, I know many Blacks, Christians, Jews, Hispanics they found God was the path to salvation and not the road that many choose to keep going down when hell was in control. We have all come a long way and those that choose to keep that hell alive should be shamed.

  • http://blog.cyberquill.com/ Cyberquill

    The more one isn’t supposed to say a particular word, the more powerful that word becomes. Ergo, use to defuse.

  • Marlane Bormel

    Probably the only thing Sharpton has ever said that has merit.

  • http://www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com/ JLM

    .
    This is one of those incredibly stupid things in life that a gentleman should just never discuss and ignore.

    I have no desire to use that word in any of its variants.

    I do not resent anyone else using it.

    I have no desire to complicate my life.

    Let’s get back to important things.

    JLM
    http://www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com

    • JDinSTL

      Let’s just rugsweep all this and hope it goes away, right?

      • Drew Page

        No, let’s beat it to death here in this posting site. Let’s get everybody’s view on this and argue it into infinity. I’m sure that will make everyone feel better.

        • JDinSTL

          I suppose you don’t learn things from reading what other people think?

  • IUBballfan

    Al Sharpton put it: “If you call yourself the n-word, you can’t get mad when someone treats you like that.” I believe that’s the only thing that’s come out of that man’s mouth I agree with.

    • 10579

      true that,.

    • Nora Halpert

      I agree. As a Jew … we would never call each other Kikes. I lived in Israel and lived in communities mostly Jewish and have never heard that word spoken to anyone or about anyone. Blacks should know better…also, Afro-American is offensive to me having lived in Africa for more than 4 years. If any Blacks went to Africa they would realize how lucky they are that they are in America and are American. They are AMERICAN. They should spend that time and effort on getting an education, or a job and they’d be better off instead of so much time on labels. This issue is more about their own self hate.

      • legal eagle

        So some people spend their time on labels instead of getting an education or a job? Rap artists have a job as do people in the media…

        • Nora Halpert

          Where did I single out Rap “artists”….. where ? You tell me. TELL ME. Where in that comment did I say rap artists.

          • legal eagle

            You seem a bit defensive…You sound like a member of a certain club…
            “The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”

          • Nora Halpert

            Where did I single out Rap artists…? Just answer the question.

        • Nora Halpert

          Like any “liberal” your read what you WANT to be there not what is there. Get a life. Get a brain.

        • Jeff Webb

          To you, it’s just automatic that a rap artist is black? Wouldn’t that sort of assumption meet the left’s definition of racist?

          • legal eagle

            It’s not automatic…only 95% true….LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            Yeah, sit there in denial. By liberal standards you are every bit as prejudiced as you say others are.

            You just lost yourself one of your favorite cliches–deal with it.

      • Ben Name

        You once, in a comment to me, called yourself a “bitch,” how is what you are saying now any different?

        If people choose to take ownership of a word or a symbol to lessen the destructive power it holds over them then good for them. I respected you for taking ownership of bitch you should show the same respect for other people’s choosing the same.

        • Nora Halpert

          I don’t know you nor would I want to … however, go take “owership” of NIGGER. Make my day.

        • Nora Halpert

          BTW, you missed the point of my comment, and what Bernie wrote. You’re so busy trying to be smart you lost it. This “ownership” of a word is idiotic…this is a RACE that continues to blame everyone else for their inability to move forward. I have no respect for Niggers…Niggars or “Afro Americans” or whatever word they take “ownership” of…who cares. They are a violent angry people that through Rap/Hip Hop and other so called contributions of theirs is taking us down. So go… give them ownership of that stupid word. Proud of yourself ? And, they reject Ben Carson, and other fine men of their Race as Jim Crows…their leaders have sold them out, and continue to sell them out. Don’t ever think any comment I have made was to you personally……….LOL. .

  • Craig Henne

    some want power over others manner of speech. The control issue can never be ignored. A half dozen protected classes of people itching to be offended so they can demand a humiliating apology

    • Nora Halpert

      That is the height of stupidity. “A half dozen protected classes” give me 3 of them ? You’re a fool

      • Bryan

        Three? Only three? Are you kidding?
        1. Black people of either sex who are offended about practically everything.
        2. “Native Americans” (which they aren’t…they immigrated here from Asia over the Bering Strait) who act offended about sports team names and anything else that references American Indians.
        3. Gay people who want to “just fit in” and be considered a “normal part of society” but then try to be as publically offensive as they can.
        4. Mexican Americans who act offended at Speedy Gonzales for crying out loud……while that cartoon is the most popular show on Cartoon Network Latin America, it’s essentially banned in the U.S.
        5., 6. 7. ……it goes on and on

        • Nora Halpert

          LMAO. Right. I just don’t think in terms of groups so I did not think of them. But you nailed it. Interesting that Mary Cheney is sabotaging Liz’s Senate Campaign over their disagreement on same sex marriage when in fact,
          Liz treats Mary with love and respect and acknowleges the union, visits them etc. How selfish of Mary when our country is at such a cross roads and Liz is so capable.
          To make that an issue is so selfish, so mean and really it’s not an issue at all other than with the media and MSNBC where everyone is gay lesbian or transgender…
          only 2% of Americans are not heterosexual it’s such a small segment of society. I am so sick of in your face attitudes from Blacks, Gays etc…BTW, it’s the media that has taken up the banner for Native Amerians. When polled Native Americans couldn’t care less.

          • JanelleHumbert

            You are certainly correct about Native Americans……no sports team would pick a team name based on weakness, cowardice or stupidity! Anyone in the media or anyplace else who doesn’t grasp that fact is more than likely afflicted with one or all three of those unfortunate qualities.

          • Nora Halpert

            Thank you.
            I feel bad for Liz. Why would a sister do that to another sister ? Mary should be standing up for Liz. Mary should be out there campaigning for Liz. “Same sex marriage” should not be an issue but is because Mary is gay. Very selfish of Mary…mean. Our country has much bigger more important issue to address than that.

          • JanelleHumbert

            Who knows what the family dynamics are, but it’s an unwelcome distraction now. More important problems
            should be in neon for certain.

          • Nora Halpert

            We are on the same page, have a great Thanksgiving…Bless you

          • JanelleHumbert

            Right back to you – hope to catch you on the boards again.

        • Toa

          Bryan- As I remember, it was not Mexican-Americans who caused the flap with Speedy, but ( predictably) white “Liberals” who always seem to know what’s best for everybody. When this happened, talk host Mike Gallagher opened his phone lines up solely to Mexicans and Mexican-Americans to see what they thought. I think the only negative call he got was from..surprise!…some “multicultural” white woman.

      • JDinSTL

        Blacks
        Hispanics (whatever that is)
        Gays
        Females
        Muslims
        Native Americans

        • Nora Halpert

          Yes, I just don’t think in terms of groups. Refer my reply to Bryan……… I think of us as Americans. This division is very unAmerican very unattractive. And, very much a tactic of the Left.

          • JDinSTL

            I gave you six

    • Nora Halpert

      And, it’s clear you have too much attitude and too little brains.

      • nickshaw

        Seriously?
        You haven’t noticed the truth in what Craig had to say?
        That’s the progressive way!
        Control the speech and you can control the speaker.
        Trumped up “offense” is meant to control what you have to say even if they have to fabricate the offense.