“Real” Conservatives on a Suicide Mission

CruzHere’s how I come to my political opinions these days:  I listen very carefully to what Eric Bolling says about a particular issue from his perch at Fox News.  And then I take the opposite position.

Bolling is one of those true-blue conservatives who believes the words “moderate Republicans” are nothing more than a nice way of saying “no backbone weasel good-for-nothing Republicans.”  He’s not alone, of course.  Conservatives on talk radio think the only reason Democrats win the White House is because the GOP puts up moderates who turn off the base.

They want a “real” take-no-prisoners conservative to run next time.  Deep down, they keep hoping that Ronald Reagan will rise from the dead and hit the campaign trail in 2016 and beat Hillary.  What these hard right pundits never seem to understand is that Ronald Reagan was the only conservative to win the White House in the last 80 years.  If being a “real” conservative is so popular, you’d think Reagan wouldn’t be the only one who became president.

But while conservatives in the media do have some clout, they don’t get to actually vote on bills in Congress and pass laws.  This is where another “real” true blue conservative comes in.

Ted Cruz is the rookie U.S. senator from Texas who if he worked at Fox News would be Eric Bolling.  Like Bolling, Cruz is on a mission.  He wants Republicans to stand up for their conservative principles – and he’ll worry about the consequences later. In Mr. Cruz’s world, charging over the hill and running into the enemy’s bayonets is a noble thing to do.  Like Bolling, Cruz has no time for those wishy-washy moderates.  But unlike Bolling and other conservatives in the media, Ted Cruz can do some real harm.

Cruz is the one leading the drive to de-fund ObamaCare.  That would be great if he could succeed.  But he can’t.  Cruz had a plan.  He would go on TV and make speeches in order to drum up grass roots support across America that would once and for all put a stake through the heart of ObamaCare.  But the grass roots – even though they don’t like ObamaCare – never got passionate about de-funding it.

That didn’t stop Cruz who like most zealots won’t change course, no matter what.

So we don’t get too deep into the weeds, here’s a brief summary of what’s going on:  The House passed a bill that would de-fund ObamaCare but keep the rest of the government running.  The bill has gone to the Senate where it has absolutely no chance of passing – or even being considered.  Harry Reid, the Democratic Senate leader, will send the bill back to the House, absent the de-funding language, and then House Republicans will do … who knows what?

I get the impression that Senator Cruz thinks if all this leads to a government shutdown President Obama and the Democrats will be blamed.  After all, the thinking goes, Republicans don’t want a government shutdown; they only want to shut down the Affordable Care Act.  By refusing to go along, it’s the Democrats who would really be shutting down government, if it comes to that.

It’ll never play out that way.  First, President Obama has the bully pulpit.  He will blame Republicans for a shutdown and he’ll get away with it, mainly because Mr. Obama’s loyalists in the media will make it a story about GOP intransigence.  ObamaCare is the law of the land, they will say, and Republicans, behaving like spoiled brats who detest this president (probably because he’s black), are incapable of accepting that. And if there is a government shutdown, expect lots of sad stories in the media about how our national parks are closed to the public and how veterans who lost their legs fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan can’t get their medical benefits.  On top of that, a majority of Americans still like the president personally — and pretty much don’t like the Republicans, who they see as the party that’s always saying no.  They may agree with Ted Cruz that ObamaCare is a bad law.  But they don’t like him.  That matters.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the president secretly hopes all of this actually does lead to a government shutdown.  It’s his best chance, after all, of winning the House in 2014 — the House being the only thing standing in the way of the president passing a lot more of what’s on his liberal wish list than he can now get away with.  And if things go south for the GOP, we can thank Mr. Cruz and all the other “real” conservatives for that. Standing up for your principles is one thing.  Committing political suicide is something else altogether.

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  • Phil B

    You think the Tea Party are the RINOS because “their allegiance isn’t to the Republican Party”. Well you’re damn right our allegiance isn’t to the Republican Party, but that sure as hell doesn’t make us RINOS. True conservatives will infiltrate and restore the Republican party to it’s original intent.

    The distain I have for most Republicans has become greater than the distain I have for the Democrats, because the Republicans should know better. The Democrats have always been disgusting and stood against what’s right. This is something relatively new for Republicans. I will personally do my part to destroy the Republican Party as it currently stands, and replace it with REAL conservatives.

    All or nothing. I won’t compromise and will not vote for a RINO like Chris Christie or John McCain, even if that means another Democrat gets elected. I’m done compromising and watching our country be destroyed by RINOs and Democrats.

  • rusureuwant2know

    I am a conservative that didn’t like Reagan and I also don’t like Cruz – and you’re right Bernie – it will never play out like they think.

    • kidwinona

      You didn’t like Reagan……Cruz????? Bernie is right????????? What’s supposed to play out??????? But you liked Romney or McCain????? Tell me, what do you want.? It sounds like you change your mind or are a picky child that can’t figure out if your hungry or just tired. You have very thin skin and need to re-evaluate who is what you call conservative. You are not sounding conservative, contradicting is a better word, devil advocate with nothing to contribute. Tell the world what you like or want if you have anything to offer. So far you have agreed with one idea or person,Bernie, and you are conservative ,too funny. I hope Bernie wasn’t talking about you or I. But you sound like an ass-kisser. Bernie wasn’t talking about disagreement, but those who are extreme because of disagreement to even throw away what is in common as some kind of ultimatum.

      • rusureuwant2know

        Did I say I liked Romney or McCain? Cruz, like Reagan isn’t conservative enough. Use foul language with me again and I will report you.

        • kidwinona

          How does someone reply 10 months later? Foul language?? I feel guilty about my lack of sentence structure, but should I delete “ass kisser” and replace it with brown noser? You know-you don’t need to yell. I realize you want to distract to change the subject, but really, try and stay focused.

  • kidwinona

    Reagan won because he was conservative, when McCain ran and when Romney ran- what was with the backing off approach, almost this apologetic stance for being conservative, going down the politically correct road as if your offending to many independents. Look now we have a spoiled dysfunctional brat in the White House kicking and screaming to get his way. Today more than ever you have all these passive scared views that want to negotiate which is code for give in. The result-a one party system. The same view of the Dems “ahhh we’ll worry about it later” No one wants to do the right thing. Where in the hell are the leaders

    • rusureuwant2know

      Reagan was a RINO. If you think otherwise, you had your eyes closed during his presidency. He changed his stance on abortion strictly so he could get on the Republican ticket, and it’s probably the only reason he won.

      • kidwinona

        What are you talking about? What will play out? You may think you’re conservative, so conservative you are pessimistic to the point bowing to the admitting your own moderation. Bernie is Bernie, reasonable at times but talks himself into .the establishment views of surrender to nonsense.

        • rusureuwant2know

          If you think I’m moderate, you don’t know the meaning of conservatism – the only one that I’ve seen qualify as conservative is Ron Paul.

          • kidwinona

            It’s 2014, did you just wake up from your nap?

    • luvcats13

      The PRESIDENT is the spoiled brat? That is too funny. I’m an Independent from Alabama who has voted for many a Republican. And from my perch atop the “middle”, I can tell ya, most Americans (particularly if they don’t live in the South), believe Republicans like Ted Cruz are acting like spoiled brats, stomping their feet and threatening to NOT DO THEIR JOBS unless a particular piece of legislation is defunded. Here’s a hint Republicans, if you want to create, change or repeal major pieces of legislation, you must EARN the right by winning elections, win majorities in the House AND the Senate in 2014 & 2016, AND win the presidency in 2016. Otherwise, guess what – the Constitution says you do not get to pass anything unless you can get Democrats to agree with it. That’s the American way. NOT HOLDING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HOSTAGE AND THREATENING TO NOT PAY AMERICA’S FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS. And my friend, this tantrum being thrown by “conservatives” is NOT conducive to even keeping Republican majority in the House in 2014, much less convincing majority of Americans they are fit to hold all the reins of government by giving them majorities in the Senate and electing a Republican president.

      • kidwinona

        Another independent(kinda this kinda that) that is enough to make you exactly one that would be removed from jury duty . Nice try. Hide behind the the mask of no bias then use the south as some test to prove your assertion. So you realize it’s a process. I don’t like Executive orders.They( your dem buddies) can pass new laws all they want but Cruz isn’t holding a gun to anyones head . Congress doesn’t have to fund anything. You are thinking there isn’t ways to counter such mistakes that many need to be saved from.It is all political So, what is the hold up? You say my views are in line with Cruz and I say it’s the opposite, which would be the imposters like you and your fraud President Barry. Welcome to the government that you love You should love the tactics my beloved conservatives use currently. After all your Democratic party invented these tactics I notice this weekend Barry was trying military raids for distraction. I think he is worried He doesn’t want shut down the government but yet he locks up the WWll memorial, pretty vindictive or just being a baby?Luvcats would call it Presidential

        • luvcats13

          Your incoherent rant is proof some conservatives are actually just low info voters who need remedial education. Go back and reread what you wrote, it’s kinda embarrassing.

          BTW – Goldberg is a conservative, FoxNews analyst and his opinion is much closer to mine than it is yours.

          For conservative agenda to become American agenda, y’all got to WIN elections, and since the majority of Americans do not care for a far right severely conservative ideology, it ain’t gonna happen. Instead, based on behavior of last several years, instead – you’re destroying the Republican Party which will guarantee national elections to Democrats. When Democrats swing too far left (and they will), the country will take another look at Republicans if they haven’t all committed suicide from having to tangle with rabble rousers.

          • kidwinona

            What?? “When Dems swing too far left(and they will) There is more room? You are sick. They already went to far left. You are a bright one. “Goldberg is a conservative” ok if you’re a comedian “Fox News analyst”? So what? I guess Pat Buchanan while on CNN & MSNBC makes Pat a liberal? What’s with the gene pool in Alabama? We know the whole luvcats position-it’s no position. Luvcat doesn’t really find interest politics or just thinks he’s/she’s fooling someone other than himself/herself. Your knowledge is Fox News =conservative (Actually it’s moderate, but conservative to the misguided) . Sit on the fence, so you can change your mind. Have you ever left the county you were born in??

          • luvcats13

            I consider Goldberg’s positions as Republican, I guess I should differentiate between Republican (credible political party) and conservative (movement becoming too radical for mainstream America). I consider Juan Williams positions as aligned with Democrats most of the time. I consider Pat Buchanan’s views as WAAAYYY out of date and I think you are rude. If you must insult the gene pool in Alabama to make a point, you’ve lost the argument. And you know what’s ironic – I bet you vote with the gene pool of my fellow Alabamians way more than I do, a lifelong Alabamian.

            And I will gladly change my mind as I learn new facts, research issues and as the world changes. Unlike some, I actually think education is supposed to expand the mind, not reinforce stagnant views that are stuck in a rut and too moribund too evolve in this ever changing world.

      • TarHeel456

        And what is your opinion about the separation of powers enumerated in the Constitution (i.e., the House appropriates the money)?

        • luvcats13

          Appropriations do originate in the House but must be also passed by a Democratic Senate and signed by a Democratic President. When Republicans control one chamber of Congress and Democrats control the other AND control the White House, then all legislation must be acceptable to Democrats and cannot be driven by a far right agenda. Just like if the reverse is true. If Republicans keep control of the House in 2014 & 2016 and somehow win the Presidency in 2016, if Democrats still control the Senate they could not insist that legislative agenda all have a progressive tilt. And they sure as heck shouldn’t threaten shut down the government and force default unless the Republican President repealed the agenda he was elected to carry out. Doesn’t that make sense?

  • Richard Webster

    The country is divided right down the middle. Governments are a reflection of the society they represent. We are seeing the results of that truth. I am a conservative Republican but do not like what is happening. Both sides are to blame. They have to know that neither side can have everything they want and should negotiate. If this continues the people will get hurt and Republicans will be blamed. If Republicans lose the House you might as well kiss this country goodby.

  • keith hart

    Several points touched on in this commentary. Could it be Reagan was the only conservative to win and dems and mod reps win because the American electorate is opposed to everyone else’s entitlements but their own? And can be bought by self-interest.

    • keith hart

      Something is very different nowadays: we are rapidly approaching bankruptcy or insolvency, if you like. And a new way of thinking and voting will be required of us — like it or not, the dems and mod reps — not conservatives — have been behind the wheel in getting us to this destination.

      • keith hart

        The success or failure of Ocare will not be determined by political ideology in congress. The key factor is American youth. Without their participation, Ocare gets repealed. Why? No government can withstand humiliating face loss when huge numbers of it citizens — break the law. So many that the gov’t can not prosecute them all. Witness Prohibition. Witness Selective Service Repeal. Too many citizens breaking the law — the gov’t repeals the law. To protect its own authority. So, how does this apply here? So many — millions — of American young will not sign up and when they get their fine in the mail? The IRS gets one big fat finger in response. Too many to prosecute. If the Gov’t tries to pull a german: making a severe example of a few; well, that never does work, not even for the germans. America’s youth will see that the gov’t will have to save face, protecting its own authority.

        • luvcats13

          IRS doesn’t send the “fine” in the mail. It will just be deducted from tax refunds, beginning Spring 2015, which is when 2014 tax returns are done. Sorry, your uprising of America’s youth ain’t happening. Especially since the “youth” prefer Democrats to Republicans about 70% to 30%.

      • keith hart

        U.S. history is replete with examples of genuine leaders arising in times of national crisis. And the usual hacks see them as a threat. Whereas in ‘ordinary’ times it’s the usual party hacks who govern and generally create the national crisis at hand.

    • keith hart

      In the overall bigger picture, what does political ideology really matter? When other far more important realities matter more. Published, established historians conclude that 150 years ago, Congress — both houses — the breadth and depth of which was rife with corruption. They say it now — of 150 years ago — because it’s safe to say so — they’re all dead. So, in another 150 years will historians be saying the same thing about this current crop of congress critters. Because it will then be safe to admit it? How good is a system when the criminals run it? One could make a case that since the last congressional evaluation, corruption has been refined over the ensuing 150 years. Fraud and larceny becoming more sophisticated and less naked, less in your face. Complexity within obscurity wrapped in cognitive dissonance, whereby theft becomes legal theft. But legal theft is still theft after all. Folks eventually, sooner or later, just will not stand for it. As King John of England found out the hard way in 1215 A.D. People know, innately, when you steal a person’s money, you steal their time. And humans — all humans — only have a finite amount of time.

  • D Parri

    Bernie, you could be correct but for one thing that has been developing with this president. Public confidence in Pres O has taken a hit with Benghazi, the IRS crackdown of conservative groups, Syria, and soon to be the mother of all PR disgraces–the blunder in dealing with IRAN.

    Even this silver-tongued devil will not be able to climb out of the hole he’s digging by making overtures, phone calls, and who knows what else forthcoming. It would take an extraordinarily ‘clueless’–better yet, stupid–person to believe that Iran will change their complete course of action on the basis of Pres O’s “hand out” diplomacy. Sure, 30 years of sacrifice, suffering, and investment will cease as Pres O plays out his strategies and ‘works the Iranians right into his hands’ by gaining the balls he has never had before (except at budget time with the Republicans).

    So, as that debacle begins to unfold it appears that it might be possible to regain some of the PR ground if a real ‘breakthrough’ were achieved in the new Iran affair, and that would certainly compound the problems that Republicans are running into regarding OCare. However, if the situation plays out as I predict that it will then this could prove to be the costliest blemish to-date, and that will give Republicans added momentum in 2014. My bet is on the latter.

    • D Parri

      I am adding a follow-up to this comment.

      Although the GOP has taken some serious flack for the disgrace of our lawmakers and leaders known as the current government shutdown, I believe that an even greater debacle is looming for Pres O.

      It has been strategically played out before the electorate that the House is willing to compromise on some items in order to allow for the funding of the government, sans a current implementation of the individual mandate. It is a reasonable expectation that the mandate should apply to all at the same time. Pres O has rejected this offer by simply saying “no compromise.” I.e., no compromise on ANY conciliatory measures that could be taken in order to restart our government.

      Unless the media joins the WH spin machine, the electorate will hear about the GOP’s efforts to delay or stop OCare at the outset of this budget year. That will come during the 2014 mid-term election campaigns, and it will be played as loudly as possible by the GOP to the multitudes who will come to know the travesty of OCare that has taken the place of their own personal healthcare.

      Additionally, I hereby reserve the right to return to this comment within a few weeks when the crisis of our national debt ceiling limit ‘hits the fan’.

  • Toros

    Bernie: As a conservative, your reasoning is puzzling but humanly understandable. After all not everyone is capable of self-sacrifice for something that you believe in. But some are! And I think President Obama is one of those people. He doesn’t play politics, just does what he believes in day in and day out.

    You say that Ted Cruz’s “zealotry” is misguided and harmful, and GOP will commit “political suicide” if they choose to fight. Fair enough, there is a risk involved and we understand it. But the alternative is, to allow Obamacare to destroy our children’s future, and to give up on our country in the onslaught
    of the socialism without a fight. Is that what we should settle for? Is that what
    you are saying?

    I would like to hear your practical point of view on the following historical events and personal experiences:

    – The founding fathers went against the odds to gain our independence. You bet it was risky, but the outcome was a beautiful thing. Did it worth it?

    – Lincoln took a tremendous risk in the abolishment of slavery and died; and hundreds of thousands died for it too. Was that a right thing to do?

    – Israel has been fighting for its existence since the inception, with no peace in horizon. Should Jews give up?

    – My grandfather was sent to the Gulags for 20 years for resisting the Soviet Collectivization. Should he voluntarily have given up his livelihood to the Bolsheviks?

    – If my house and family are attacked, should I give up because I’m outnumbered?

    I lived in the Soviet Union until I was 30; I moved to the USA in 1991; I voted for Obama the first time around. Now I’m a Ted Cruz and Eric Bolling conservative, and I think we should fight for our country.

    • hihoze

      Toros: I have been to many Tea Party meetings, public rallies and forums and met many former subjects who survived under Marx’s Manifesto and Russia’s Communist Constitution and they ALL say what you’re saying and they ALL see the Democratic Party as the American version of their former slave owners. They can clearly see that America is turning into another Marxist prison state. Most of our press cheers Marxism and has completely discredited our founding and free markets. Bernie, (whom I like) will mildly protest and his friend Bill O’Reilly will document daily the Decline of America but both are scared to death to call the president or his party of Marxists, Marxists. Bernie doesn’t want to be destroyed and O’Reilly can’t afford to lose his ratings. No one in America is willing to pledge their lives, their fortunes or their sacred honor anymore….so….The Great Decline & Fall of America continues….

      • Toros

        hihoze: It is remarkable how people are apathetic to the “transformation” that past few years have brought to this country. Bolsheviks started their takeover nice and slow too, and lied and deceived throughout the way. Once they were in control, all hell broke loose. Mayhem ensued…
        The time for us to fight is now! Stopping the socialization of America is not extreme, it is vital.
        – The president negotiates with Putin and Iran, but refuses to negotiate with Congress…
        – He divided the country like never before…
        – He sais “you didn’t build your business, someone else did”…
        – He views the half of the country as “enemy”…
        – Democrats call half of the country “racist”…
        Are these extreme positions?
        Everyone should answer to this questions for themselves, including Bernie, and make conclusions and stand for their beliefs. Once we lose our freedom, it is lost forever.

        • hihoze

          I think every person who fled Communism to the safe shores of America should start a Facebook page and website to educate Americans. They need to hear from the lucky ones.

          • legal eagle

            Yes …we need to hear from more geniuses like Toros the bull…

          • Toros

            No disrespect to the American Bold Eagle, the bull will take the “legal eagle” on any day…ideologically speaking, or otherwise.

          • hihoze

            You need to open your mind to what you hear. There’s an exceptional America waiting for you to discover.

        • Sheila Warner

          The President did not say business owners did not build their own businesses. He was talking about the infrastructure, which the business folks rely on to transport their goods. Get it right. That statement is still a silly one in context, because business owners paid for the roads with their taxes. And that “he only negotiates with Putin & Iran” bit is regurgitation of a PAC ad. The GOP, in its willingness to see the government shut down, are also refusing to negotiate–and with each other! “Establishment” Republicans are derided as RINOs, with the TP faction insisting on its own way. As I keep saying, there is plenty of stubbornness on both sides of the aisle. Stop parroting what others say if that’s possible, and think for yourself. Can’t you see how the TP members are ruining the GOP?

      • Sheila Warner

        Spoken like a true blue Glenn Beck fan.

        • hihoze

          Glenn Beck provides a wide angle view that makes one think about trends, directions, intended and unintended consequences. His thought provoking views are fact checked and often presented with video in the subject’s own words and/or deeds.

          • Sheila Warner

            I know all about Beck’s fact checking. I used to be quite the avid fan. I said the same things you do. “But the video shows the subjects’ actual words!” Remember that Mitt Romney’s actual words were on video, too. There has to be some context. Also, I got to the point where I wasn’t trusting Beck’s sources. Every single tiny thing that came out of the White House was part of a grand conspiracy. I guess I truly gave up on him when he started dissecting other people’s religion, such as “liberation theology”, as if he is the world’s “God cop”. He questions the credentials of those who are liberal Christians. I still drop by the Blaze from time to time, just to get an idea of what the very far Right is putting out there. But I do not put stock in what he says. My dad describes Beck as the average guy who sits at the bar, waxing more and more philosophical as the night wears on. He sounds better to himself as time passes, not noticing the odd looks he gets from the rest of the patrons.

          • D Parri

            Nice perspective from your dad. I had once come to nearly the same conclusion as you just stated, except for one thing. Either Beck was ‘way out there’, or he was akin to a prophet regarding the things that were unfolding.

            Now, as I look back at what appeared to be some very wild claims by Beck it seems as though he may have very well been correct. The crux of the matter was that Pres O’s overriding goal was to rebuild the U.S. into what his vision for America has been. “Fundamental transformation”–a term used by both Beck and Obama. The difference was that this was Obama’s goal, and it was what Beck foretold.

            The PCACA legislation, if fully implemented, will change our world (not just nation) more than anything ever brought before it. It will actually change our economy, Congress’ powers, Presidential authority, and constitutional administration enforced by the courts than any war, poverty, or international treaty heretofore.

            I am an average guy, not sitting on a barstool, but watching and observing as this whole thing unfolds. I do not like what I see.

          • Sheila Warner

            I can understand why you believe the health care law will change our economy, but I’m not understanding how it will change Congressional power, Presidential authority, or constitutional administration. We will continue to have three branches of government which are restrained by the Constitution so as to have checks and balances. I know that some believe the President’s tinkering with parts of the healthcare law are not constitutional. They need to file suit against the President asap and let the courts weigh in. I do respect your opinion about the law as it is being implemented now. I still think it can be fixed. The over reliance on taxes will trigger a Laffer curve at some point, and we might really get into trouble down the road as funding becomes impossible. People will find a way to reduce their tax burden, and fewer tax dollars means less revenue at a time when we need to start paying down the debt. I just don’t look to Beck as a primary source of information. I appreciated your feedback.

          • D Parri

            Thanks, Sheila. And I appreciate your comments as well.

            I agree that a challenge will need to be taken up at some time in the future regarding the tinkering of a law that the president has no vested constitutional authority to do.

            What I was referring to regarding the changes in power and authority within the branches of government is the precedent that will be set in which the Congress is allowing its powers to be delegated out to the president by allowing him to tinker with the law. The SC has already spoken on that issue when they held that Clinton’s power of a line-item veto could not stand.

          • Sheila Warner

            That’s what I thought you meant but I didn’t want to assume. Good points made.

          • keith hart

            If government cognitive dissonance continues on this pace and reaches a tipping point, count on ordinary Americans resisting, even if they don’t consider themselves conservatives. You will see Americans of varying political persuasions joining in common cause. The rise of a greater GDP in the underground economy. More creative avenues of tax avoidance — legal ( not tax evasion — illegal). Less and less of small donation contributions to major political parties — generating troublesome shortfalls. Voting numbers in major elections reduced to the Big 2 parties and more electorate splintering with increased vote numbers going to a rising number of smaller parties — as if, we had a parliamentarian system. Aggressive, innovative exploiting of all available gov’t programs, with the intention of placing breaking point burdens on bureaucracy. A raucous time is ahead; but, for establishment leadership, used to things done as they have always been done — a very rough time is ahead for them.

        • keith hart

          Sheila, marxists are not marxists because of Glenn Beck.

        • keith hart

          It’s difficult to be a fan of any of these on-air pundits. I stopped watching Mr. Beck when his eccentricities were making me squirm. A Michael Savage — crude beyond what civility can accept. Although his line “Liberalism is a mental disorder”, I would not disagree with. I prefer to consider it cognitive dissonance — more accurate. Sean Hannity — too strident and an irritating facility for saying the same thing in seven slightly different ways — Jeez, Make your point and move on. Bill O’Reilly with his frequently annoying manner of being dismissive of anything he hasn’t the patience to understand. And Bill there are many times I would like to actually hear what your guest has to say. Even Bernie with his predilection for “on the one hand …… but, then again on the other” He reminds me of Harry Truman’s plea for a one armed economist. Chris Matthews, whose opinions are about as well thought out and hold as much relevance as that of any other old drunk falling off a barstool. Rush Limbaugh’s laugh is beguiling , frequently making me feel relaxed and his infectious optimism, ‘that everything will be alright in the long run’. I suppose I’d be an optimist too, if I made a million dollars a month. No, wait a minute, I do make a million dollars a month. Currency trading has been very, very good to me.

  • Mr. Common Sense

    I think Bernie just wrote a great article. Why is it in this country if people don’t agree about one thing, they go off the deep end? Bernie writes opinion pieces. If you don’t agree, you have a choice. State your case as to why and move on to the next thing, or, leave some thunderous, vitriol laden message stating you will never read or watch him again (I’m going to pick up my toys and go home!). Good grief, what a bunch of whiners. And yes, I am sure the responses to my posting will probably negative like the ones Bernie has been getting.

    • Toros

      sounds like you are whining?!

      • Mr. Common Sense

        Thank you for proving my point.

    • WhiteHunter

      It depends on what that one thing is–a little thing of no real significance, or a big thing of immense importance and tremendous destructive potential. Obamacare is the latter; if it isn’t, what is?

      • Mr. Common Sense

        Well in my opinion, at this point in time, Obamacare will not be overturned. If it passed, Obama would veto it, and there is no way to override the veto with the democratically controlled Senate. But the point I was making, if you disagree with someone, be civil. For instance, I won’t watch MSNBC because of how they report. I don’t spend all of my time and energy sending their news people nasty emails telling them how awful they are, I chose to simply not watch.

  • Kathryn Le Roy

    Although I normally think your arguments have good merit to them.. You’re caving on this one. Kind of like, “Let’s give all kids trophies since not everyone can win!” According to your analogy, Ted Cruz, et al can’t win this, so why bother taking a stand? Unfortunately, this is what we’re used to seeing with the political elite, that have ALL gotten us into this ACA, Fiscal nightmare, Bengazi going nowhere, but come He’ll or high water they’ll keep their jobs until they die in DC! How refreshing to see a Conservative who takes a stand for what he believes in, and what 60%+ of the American populous! Take a different, more independent stand on all of our country’s problems, Bernie. For only if more politicians, pundits and those with a voice can our country right this fiscal mess we are in and headed for worse!!

    • legal eagle

      Railing against the political elites …such as the billionaires who fund the Tea Party machine….You don’t even know why you’re opposed to Obamacare other than your cult leaders have told you to be opposed to anything that helps Americans…How sad…

      • kidwinona

        And you don’t know why you’re for it. You should become a Prof. at your local over- priced university. Remember, you’ll be over-payed, but you’ll be challenged by the innocent student who you can take advantage of with the only tactic you have-repeating yourself. I have to go to work now to help subsidize my friends like you. God Bless Jesus loves you

        • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

          Of course they don’t, they’re low information voters that lap up everything that Obama says.

          • legal eagle

            Do you have health insurance Mr. Goon?

        • legal eagle

          I’m for Obamacare because it allows the people with pre-existing conditions to buy insurance…I know many people in this category…I have never heard a Republican alternative…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            And you realize that that particular part of Obamacare was something Republicans were receptive to at the time, right?

            It was largely the rest of what was in the 2000-plus pages of the bill that they had big problems with.

            Your response is very telling, and it speaks to exactly how shallow your support of Obamacare is.

            This is like dumping candy sprinkles on a piece of dog feces, and then telling people they’re nuts for not eating it because candy sprinkles taste oh so good. The problem isn’t the sprinkles. It’s what is underneath.

          • legal eagle

            I realize the Republicans are against anything Obama is for…Republicans are worried that Obamacare will be successful just like Medicare has been and it will cost them votes….
            This is all their main concern…Of course they cant say that so they spread misinformation via Fox News and right wing talk radio…and you lap it up because you choose not to read between the lines…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Legal, I can promise you that I’ve never met or heard from a single Republican who is worried that Obamacare might actually be successful.

            That is, unless, your definition of “success” equates to a drug dealer successfully turning a user into a junkie.

          • legal eagle

            I forgot about the vast number of beltway Republicans you are in contact with….Didn’t Republicans oppose Medicare?

          • D Parri

            Could you define “vast”?

          • legal eagle

            No one was talking to you…mind your business…

          • D Parri

            LOL…! Rude again!

          • kidwinona

            You don’t need to yell. Be civil

          • kidwinona

            I can handle the fact Obama has been greased for every skid-plain spoiled growing up dysfunctional. Sad that he’s your hypnotist.

          • legal eagle

            Amazing how politically naïve you are….

          • kidwinona

            Amazing how politically misguided you are..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Amazing how you’re completely unable to argue a point

          • kidwinona

            You have an old illness known as selective hearing. That illness in someway probably will not fall into the selective reading category,so we don’t know if you can be treated. This all because you are in lacking of any common sense. You want to believe your idea of a the beautiful ends justify that somehow nonsense actually will lead you there. If it sounds good it will work????? If it sounds bad it will work???It does not matter. It will work. Liberals just can’t help themselves, they must tinker .

          • legal eagle

            Tinkering? Isn’t that what organizations do when there is a problem? Think the healthcare industry is running well?

          • kidwinona

            A variety of problems exist, but to say it’s the “industry” is ignorant. The government is called on to fix what is said to be corrupt. Wake up, the government is corrupt and people think that’s the answer.Here again, it’s you that cares less how problems are fixed. Just like the shallow thoughts of too many uninsured use the emergency rooms which have higher cost. So we know uninsured are not turned away, illegals too are not turned away. But people and the government power grabbers demagog for their own interest, not what is needed but what is wanted.

          • legal eagle

            The government is called on to solve problems that industry cant or wont fix…

          • kidwinona

            sure, they will spend our way out of it, works everytime-good one

          • legal eagle

            I have an old illness called “the devil is in the details”. You probably believe the healthcare system is OK because you have insurance…The system is broken but why should you care?

          • kidwinona

            Another big problem is people and the way they use healthcare, Not talking about fraud which is huge, but the mindset of the typical healthcare seeker insured or not. Kids go to the doctor to get out of school, adults got to the doctor to get out of work, and the elderly go to the doctor to get out of the house. These examples happen more than any would admit because who would dare go when they are not ill. People in today’s world play dumb as a fox . Give Give Give and people Want Want Want

          • legal eagle

            Hard to argue with generalizations and stereotypical based opinions…Elderly go to the doctor to get out of the house? Are you serious or do you actually believe the nonsense you are spewing?

          • D Parri

            Hard for you to deal with any kind of logic or truth…huh?

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        >>You don’t even know why you’re opposed to Obamacare

        No, YOU don’t know why we’re opposed to Obamacare, which is painfully sad considering how few coherent reasons there are for anyone to support it.

        • legal eagle

          I have no idea why you’re opposed to the concept of Obamacare other than it’s a Dem program and you are against all Dem programs….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            The only explanation you could possibly have for having “no idea” why people would oppose Obamacare is that you have not listened to ANY opposition arguments to it over the past few years.

            Honestly man, that would be like me saying that I have “no idea” how anyone could have possibly opposed the war in Iraq, other than that they’re against everything the Republicans do.

            This is an ongoing theme with you, legal eagle. You seem to have absolutely no clue about anything beyond Democratic talking points. It’s like you don’t actually ever watch the news to acquire at least a basic knowledge of news stories.

            You’re like the juror who fell asleep right after the opening arguments of a trial began, woke up right as the closing arguments ended, and then acted like the rest of the jury – who stayed awake for the entire trial – hasn’t a clue what they’re talking about while they’re discussing the case amongst themselves.

          • legal eagle

            I have heard many opposition arguments and they boil down to a few basic arguments:
            1) Anything government does is bad:
            2) Obamacare will hurt the economy…I view this as an opinion without any substantiation;
            3) The millions of uninsured are not problematical,
            4) The healthcare system is fine so why do anything?
            Anything I’m missing?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Really? Those are the opposition arguments you’ve heard? From who, Chris Matthews?

            Hundreds of large, national companies have already announced that they’re cutting back on employees hours due to the extended costs associated with Obamacare regulations. The employer mandate says if you have 50 or more full-time employees (defining full-time
            employees as 30 hours a week) you have to pay a substantial sum for each
            of their health care plans. Thus, companies are logically cutting down their hours to under 30 hours a week to avoid such exuberant costs. Have you honestly not heard this argument?

            Insurance companies across the nation are ending individual health insurance plans because they are no longer sustainable and worth their cost under Obamacare regulations. This is a direct contradiction to Obama’s promise that if people currently liked they’re provider, they would be able to stick with it. I know this issue very well, because my family lost our individual plan because of this. Haven’t heard of that either, I suppose?

            Obamacare costs multiple times what the president told us it would. That doesn’t ring a bell?

            It will not and is not lowering health care costs. It’s driving them up. A recent study by Forbes revealed that Obamacare will increase health spending by $7,450 for a typical family of four. You haven’t heard anyone talk about this?

            Healthcare premiums are not lowering under Obamacare as the president promised. They’re rising sharply on a national level. Nothing?

            Its funding mechanism is fatally flawed, relying on scores of young, healthy people to voluntarily pay 5 times more for health insurance than it would cost them to just pay a fine and ignore the obligation. Familiar?

            National survey after national survey of medical professionals show that doctors will leave their practices in droves, retiring early, in order to escape the compensation restrictions and practice modifications they’d have to adhere to. Meanwhile, extended coverage means far more patients entering doctors offices and emergency rooms. This leads to a situation in which there aren’t enough doctors to treat patients, and the amount of time it takes to receive treatment skyrockets. You really haven’t heard about any of this?

            Obamacare is to be managed by the IRS, a government organization that has routinely proven to be corrupt and totally incompetent. You haven’t heard this argument?

            I could go on ALL NIGHT with this stuff, but the point is that you have willfully ignored practically every legitimate argument against Obamacare because you’re either too intellectually lazy or too hyper-partisan to give a damn about it.

            And yes, I realize that I’ve completely wasted my time on you tonight, because despite everything I wrote, you’ll simply go back to saying that there’s no identifiable reason not to support Obamacare. It’s what you do.

          • legal eagle

            You have the talking points down…However, most of your arguments are pure speculation ( “doctors retiring in droves”) or pure politics (“IRS has routinely proven to be corrupt”) …You seem to accept as fact any nonsense you hear in the media…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            They’re not talking points. They’re realities. And thank you for predictably ignoring them.

            The mere fact that after the IRS was exposed for targeting conservative groups, and you can’t still bring yourself to call them “corrupt”, speaks volumes.

          • legal eagle

            Corrupt….is that like “liars”? You have a talking point for all occasions…Did you forget about “abolish the IRS”?

          • legal eagle

            Perception is not always reality Mr. Daly…just because you want Obama care to fail or cause a financial tsunami doesn’t mean it will….But I’m sure you’ll keep whining about it just like The IRS and Benghazi….
            As a litigator you learn that repetition does not constitute proof….

          • legal eagle

            The Biggest Study Yet of Obamacare Premiums Indicates Insurance Will Be Cheaper Than Expected

          • legal eagle

            A “study” is not a fact …It is not even considered evidence in Court…

          • Jeff Webb

            You’re pathetic, LE.

            Of the 4 “arguments” you posted, 3 of them no honest person could say are basic arguments made by most conservatives, and the other (#2) is not an opinion. It’s a fact that has been and continues to be substantiated.

            If a guy takes the time to give you a thorough explanation of something you claim you don’t get, be decent enough to take a little time and look them up.

            Dismissive responses like the one you posted are as cowardly as they are petty. Rise above it or be a child somewhere else.

          • legal eagle

            You’re using the slippery slope argument….Obamacare may lead to a nuclear holocaust but it might also to an improved healthcare system in the U.S… I cant predict the future and neither can you….Whatever you claim may happen, may also not happen…
            Many of the same arguments against Obamacare were made about Medicare…Medicare, I submit, has been quite successful over the past 50 years…

          • legal eagle

            What exactly can you substantiate other than stating anecdotal evidence? How long are you going to keep whining about the IRS? I haven’t read any grand revelations form Issa’s committee …have you?

          • Franklyn Douglas

            Fair point john and in time we will be able to see in plain view what the good and bad of the program is. My point is ….T’s the law. It was an ugly process that has left deep scars but it was done legally. It was also given the OK by the Supreme Court. So I think we should let it run it’s course. Then if it’s actually so bad and the republicans regain the White House and control of the senate and the house. They can then do anything they want. Look as a black man I know that bad laws need to be changed, but there is a process to follow. Finally I believe in fairness and honesty. Both sides talks up the things that support there argument. But there are still some points that don’t. Like it or not there are some good good things in obamacare system. My mom is a cancer survivor and can now always get coverage. To me and most like people this is a good thing.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I don’t dispute that it’s the law.

            I think it’s worth mentioning though that the Supreme Court didn’t simply “OK” it. Justice Roberts actually re-wrote it to make it constitutional. It wasn’t constitutional until Roberts changed it.

            Again, I don’t dispute that there are some good things in Obamacare – things like the pre-existing conditions clause which Republicans were fine with at the time. The problem is that the vast majority of the law, including its entire funding mechanism is fatally flawed and is an unmitigated disaster.

            Prior to the passage of Obamacare, roughly 80% of the country said they were happy with their current coverage. If the government was going to reform health coverage, they should have focused on the 20% that wasn’t happy. Instead they overhauled the ENTIRE system, and did a ridiculously terrible, mostly incoherent job of it. Practically every promise Obama made about Obamacare has been proven to be absolutely false. The price-tag has more than doubled, it’s a job killer, it is raising healthcare costs, and its driving medical professionals out of business.

            Pointing to the handful of things that are good and ignoring the enormous number of things that are awful is pretty much how liberals defend everything they do these days.

          • legal eagle

            So you say 80% are happy with their health insurance and 20% were unhappy…How about those who don’t have or can’t get insurance?
            What did the Republicans do to solve the healthcare problem when Bush was POTUS and they controlled the house and senate? NOTHING….

          • Sheila Warner

            Sure they did–they added Medicare Part D.

          • legal eagle

            LOL…..but they did nothing to solve the problem of too many uninsured Americans…

          • legal eagle

            What part of the ACA did John Roberts change? I’ve never heard of a Supreme Court justice changing legislation…What are you talking about?

          • Sheila Warner

            John must be referring to Chief Justice Robert’s assertion that, the fine imposed if one doesn’t purchase insurance, is actually a tax. You are correct; Roberts did not change the law. He interpreted the law. Four other justices agreed with him, if memory serves me correctly. Congress has the power to tax; hence, the law is constitutional, according to SCOTUS.

          • D Parri

            Which also means that the president does not have the authority to modify the law. Article I Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution states that ALL legislative powers are vested within Congress. Furthermore, the SCOTUS ruled in the 90’s that those powers cannot be delegated. Hence, the line-item veto that Clinton fought for was thrown out.

            The MANDATE is a tax. However, Pres O has already modified it and there are no justifiable bases on which to exempt the special interests from the tax. Therefore, it will be ruled unconstitutional unless applied without bias.

          • Sheila Warner

            The penalty for not buying insurance is a tax. Remember that Roberts split his own decision on two fronts. He declared that the mandate was unconstitutional UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE. Then, he decided the fine is a tax, which Congress may impose. How this dichotomy can beyond me. The decision looks like a pretzel. But Roberts is wrong on the first point. People are compelled to purchase home owners insurance if they want to secure a mortgage, and those with automobiles must purchase car insurance. A health insurance policy requirement is not a big leap. In fact, it is a Republican who put that law into effect in Massachusetts. I suppose Roberts is splitting hairs between the Federal Commerce Clause and the rights of states to legislate insurance within their borders.

          • legal eagle

            Roberts through a bone to the liberals as he votes with the right wingers 90% of the time…..Still hard to figure out the legal basis for Voting Rights Act decision or the Bush v. Gore decision….Most activist Supreme Court ever…

          • Sheila Warner

            One person’s activism is another person’s redress. I’ve heard both sides howl at SCOTUS opinions. When both sides are unhappy, the Court must be doing something right. And, I bet there are plenty of folks who were in the thick of trying to hold onto Jim Crow laws who think Brown v Board of Education is the most activist ruling on record. Pro-lifers point to Roe v Wade. Traditionalists don’t like the outcome of the two gay marriage cases. I laugh when I hear either side complain about judicial activism. It’s just so silly.

          • D Parri

            Under AIA the government is protected from frivolous lawsuits brought about to impede Congress’ powers to levy and collect taxes. Viewing the penalty as tax would necessarily put AIA into play and thus remove a challenge pursued through the courts. This was reflected in the lower courts’ decisions as well.

            Pretzel logic does exist, however, and the SC’s opinion that the penalty is a tax–but the mandate is not–does seems inconsistent with precedential rulings that did not allow a court action to come forth when the AIA was clearly (as stated by Robert’s own statement) relevant and should be invoked. In other words, it IS a tax and Congress has the authority to pass legislation establishing taxes, BUT the AIA would not be allowed to bar the plaintiffs arguments and an ultimate ruling. As a side, the ACA does not refer to the mandate OR the penalty as a tax.

            Therefore, the Commerce Clause was not allowed, the AIA was swept aside temporarily, and the law now stands non-severable from the mandate. It will take a two-thirds majority in Congress to repeal the law without Pres O’s approval. Will they have it? We’ll see.

          • Sheila Warner

            Thanks for the information. I told you it was like a pretzel to me. Glad to know I wasn’t too far off base with my comparison.

          • Sheila Warner

            Oh, and as to your assertion that the President cannot selectively enforce or delay portions of the law is an issue that may well end up before SCOTUS. The President already has refused to defend DOMA. He also directed ICE not to prosecute young illegals under certain circumstances b/c he wants the Dream Act, which Congress denied to him. I hear the GOP complain all the time about the President circumventing Congress, but precious little is done about it. The only time I saw the GOP fight back was on the “recess” appointments to the National Labor Relations Board. So, it seems as if the GOP is also selective in what they will fight against.

          • legal eagle

            It will be ruled unconstitutional by whom?

          • legal eagle

            You are right…. John never admits he’s incorrect so he will probably just change the subject…

          • D Parri

            John help get this message out. The SCOTUS has stated that the mandate was a tax. The executive branch cannot make, create, or repeal legislation. Pres O has done just that. Therefore, the exemptions must be repealed or the law will be executed in an unconstitutional manner.

            Since the mandate is a tax, only the Congress needs to repeal the law or the mandate. It will not require the president’s signature for repeal if there is a two-thirds majority that approves the repeal legislation.

          • Kathryn Le Roy

            What’s been done to it since the Supreme Court approved a TAX.. 20+ changes favoring everyone from big biz to congressional staffers!! It’s not the law that was passed and are currently being sued from various Left-Right & Independents! Look it up!!

          • legal eagle

            Obamacare costs multiple times what the president told us it would. That doesn’t ring a bell? NOT TRUE

            It will not and is not lowering health care costs. It’s driving them up. A recent study by Forbes revealed that Obamacare will increase health spending by $7,450 for a typical family of four. You haven’t heard anyone talk about this? YOU HAVENT HEARD OF IT BECAUSE THE “STUDY” IS FLAWED..

            Healthcare premiums are not lowering under Obamacare as the president promised. They’re rising sharply on a national level. Nothing? ANNUAL INCREASES HAVE OCCURRED FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS

          • Kathryn Le Roy

            Although, I appreciate and completely agree with Mike Daly’s last statement… Legal eagle you are the sheep to the Dem’s! Rather than list what you should research before spewing “talking points” is ACA,! I’m in the health insurance industry, and will look forward to congratulating you on ruining not only the jobs market, but the ability to access MY DOCTORS! Here in CA all UCSD hospitals have stated they will not take any ACA plans.. Hmm, but that’s where my spine surgeon and others are located!! Read the Bill from an open mind! BTW, none of your business, but I’m a conservative independent! I vote common sense and this is so far from it, it’s laughable!!

          • legal eagle

            As I live in Southern California I am curious about this situation.
            First, why would you be enrolling in an ACA plan if you already have insurance?
            Second, is UCSD an insurance provider or a hospital. Is it like the Scripps system?
            Most importantly, I don’t believe I said that any new healthcare plan would be perfect as healthcare is an individual preference. What I meant to convey is that it will, I believe, solve the longstanding problem of middle class families who are unable to obtain health insurance either because of preexisting conditions or costs…

  • hihoze

    Bernie: That was an unfair comment to say Republicans probably detest this president because he’s black. I am a conservative and when I first saw Obama at the Democratic Convention in 2004 I was impressed, when our first black president came from the Land of Lincoln, I marveled at the irony or hand of Providence at work in our American journey. However, after learning about Mr. Obama’s background and free association with so many Marxists, bigots and America haters, I was deeply offended that this is what we elected for a president.
    As to Ted Cruz, he is fighting like a Democrat for his principles and those who elected him. As for the Republican Party, if the new Constitution or Madison Wing of the Republican Party is rejected by its leadership, it will be the beginning of the end of the Republican Party and the beginning of the beginning of the Democratic National Socialist Workers Party which was long ago taken over by the Manifesto or Marx Wing of the former Democratic Party.

    The Great Decline & Fall of America continues, unabated, aided and abetted by political cowards and the most indoctrinated, distracted electorate in our history.

    • legal eagle

      They don’t detest Obama because he’s black…they just don’t want him in their cult…It’s reserved for older bitter white folks and they are not accepting any minority members…

      • Jeff Webb

        Your projecting habit can be kicked once you admit you have a problem, bigot.

        • T Ko

          He has already admitted to being a pervert.

      • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

        We don’t like Obama political views, his ethnic background has nothing to do with it.

        • legal eagle

          But the majority of Americans do like his views….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Have you seen his recent approval ratings? They most certainly do not.

          • D Parri

            I’m afraid Legal Weasel does not know what he’s talking about nearly 99% of the time. But he’s an expert, though. Why, he just recently told me that he is a lawyer although he didn’t seem to understand the concept of separation of powers among the three branches of government. He’s also a former stock broker and nuclear scientist.

          • legal eagle

            Sorry that I tried to explain something to a moron like yourself….

          • D Parri

            Real intelligent response, weasel.

          • legal eagle

            you want me to respond to you intelligently? I’ve tried previously without success….You take in information and spew out nonsense..

          • D Parri

            A typical response directly out of your playbook.

          • legal eagle

            I’ve never been a stockbroker or a nuclear scientist but I did work on Wall Street for a number of years…guess you don’t understand that there are many different jobs on Wall Street…

          • Franklyn Douglas

            This presidential poll ratings thing is funny to me. Bush had terrible poll numbers and the right didn’t care about them then. To most they liked that he followed his beliefs on the war despite the low poll numbers. MY MAIN DISLIKE OF BUSH IS BECAUSE OF HIS TERRIBLE HANDLING OF THE IRAQ WAR. ( so I am one biased conservative retired vet that spent two tours in Iraq and lost friends because of his bad decisions) But now that Obama has low polling numbers they seem to matter now. I smell selective hypocritical attitudes.

          • D Parri

            I have great respect for the military and those that would place themselves in harm’s way to serve their country.

            That being said, war is never a good thing for anyone. I do not reflect on the circumstances which precipitated in war with Iraq as being U.S. led. There was a need for action to combat terrorism after the 9/11 attacks, and the leading proponent and most likely candidate for promoting terrorism was Saddam Hussein and Iraq. His non-cooperation with the U.N., the U.S., and others still stands in sharp contrast to the recent response by Bashar al-Assad, regardless of his veracity in claims he has made regarding his non-use of chemical weapons. He has at least made some overtures of cooperation…Saddam did not.

            Now history will judge as to whether the invasion of Iraq was the best course of action. The U.S. policies of isolationism in the past have proved to be non-effectual and did not bring us to the outcome we desired. Military involvement in WWI and WWII could not be averted and, thus, history will provide a better perspective on Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and the middle east in total.

            My question for you is what aspect of the handling of the Iraq war is what you dislike and feel was a terrible performance by Bush? Please don’t say the total handling of the war because that only means that you were opposed to the war–not Bush’s handling of the war.

          • Franklyn Douglas

            Thank yo for your well thought out position. I will attempt to do e same.

            First off I expect my commander and chief to get it right when they send us harms way. I don’t care for buy the “every else also thought they had weapons of mass distractions ” defense. Bush was the president and it was his responsibility and right to send us to war. I EXPECT THE REASON TO BE RIGHT AND JUST. Turns out sad dam bluffed and Bush got it wrong. It’s that simple to me. It wasn’t until later that bush and his friends in the Republican Party and media came up with all these other reasons to justify action. Yes sad dam was a bad guy. But so was Kim ill sung in north Korea. But we didn’t attack North Korea. Yes he defied the sanctions and at times crossed the no fly line. But we contained him for 12 years. Yes women had it hard, but that is he norm in the Middle East.

            Many a Bush defender says mistakes are made I. All wars. And I agree to that sad point. But mistakes are made in war. Like a bad battle plan or airborne troops jumping into the wrong drop zone. But sending us to war on mistaken information based on a bluff. I cannot excuse that. Then there are reasons like using the us military to nation build. That’s not what were are built to do. We engage the enemy, kick butt, restore order then go home. I could go on but I think you get the idea.

          • D Parri

            Thanks, Franklyn. I respect your views and I agree that the commander in chief needs to get it right before giving orders to proceed with action. I could say that there are a lot of people that contribute to making such a decision, but the bottom line is that the responsibility rests squarely on the shoulders of the leader.

            I would venture that Bush would have given almost anything to have located at least some WMD’s after invading Iraq, but that didn’t happen. It does appear that Saddam bluffed but don’t forget that he had already invaded a neighboring country in 1990, and the U.S.-led coalition forces were justified from the outset in that action.

            Politics–both domestic and international–have always tended to corrupt the mission of the military, and it just shouldn’t be that way. Engage, kick butt, restore, and then get out. Why couldn’t it always be that way?

          • Franklyn Douglas

            Thank yo for your well thought out position. I will attempt to do e same.

            First off I expect my commander and chief to get it right when they send us harms way. I don’t care for buy the “every else also thought they had weapons of mass distractions ” defense. Bush was the president and it was his responsibility and right to send us to war. I EXPECT THE REASON TO BE RIGHT AND JUST. Turns out sad dam bluffed and Bush got it wrong. It’s that simple to me. It wasn’t until later that bush and his friends in the Republican Party and media came up with all these other reasons to justify action. Yes sad dam was a bad guy. But so was Kim ill sung in north Korea. But we didn’t attack North Korea. Yes he defied the sanctions and at times crossed the no fly line. But we contained him for 12 years. Yes women had it hard, but that is he norm in the Middle East.

            Many a Bush defender says mistakes are made I. All wars. And I agree to that sad point. But mistakes are made in war. Like a bad battle plan or dropping troops on the wrong drop zone. But I cannot excuse a president making the mistake of sending us to war because some 3rd rate dictator bluffed. I expect him to get that right.

            Finally our military is not built to nation build. We fight wars then go home. I don’t think Bush lied, he just got it wrong and made a mistake. The worse part is. Unless I am wrong on this. HE HAS NEVER OWNED UP TO HIS MISTAKE. I think we’re owed at least that. How hard is it to say I’m sorry I got it wrong. That’s what leaders do or at least should.

          • Franklyn Douglas

            Sorry about the typos my iPad is messing up. I can’t edit right now.

          • Sheila Warner

            I’m with you on this one. The inspectors had to leave Iraq early, without a chance to finish their work, do you remember that part of the story? After the abysmal failure of intelligence leading up to 9/11, the President had to be absolutely right on the WMD supposedly in the hands of Saddam Hussein. Our intelligence was still in the process of getting up and running, and our reliance on information from suspected terrorists who had been renditioned was not the way to verify anything. How much blood we spilled, how many lives were lost, and Iraq is a tinderbox now. A complete failure all the way down the line.

          • kidwinona

            Why is it that people forget the history of why we were able to go to Iraq which we should have based on Saddam not following the rules that the U.N. set up when Bill Clinton was in office. The whole point from anyone opposed can not be one where they say “if inspectors had more time” –that time ran out by the rules set forth by the back-peddling U.N. Going into Iraq based on Bush with Powell’s speech to the U.N.was a non issue since they didn’t need to. They were trying to get public opinion, nations to assist which was the start of their failures. This all turned into a popularity contest. Going to Iraq and not finding any WMDs would not matter either. Everyone knows he had them, its whether he had got rid of them and shows that he did. He failed by even the U.N.’s deadlines. Many people in the the world talk the talk but won’t walk the walk . But since those that opposed intervention in Iraq are backing the Syrian deal based on nothing. Obama for example does not know what he’s for in Syria from one day to the next, but since it’s relevant to how and why people believe what they do. It’s quite interesting how the WMD’s in Syria talk has been orchestrated in a far more flimsy way than Bush’s in Iraq. In Syria the wmd talk started before they had any idea of them being present. Then one year ago, rebels were busted attempting to stage a chemical weapon event, I guess to become the new Hollywood of the middle-east. Then after failing, just maybe they might have to try a real event. So after there is no evidence, just talk by our so called Al Qaeda allies, Assad then would go use wmd’s, saying “they(U.S.) never will think it was me” when he knows who will be knocking at his door. I thought Bush was bad at swaying public opinion, which he is, but what is scary is Obama is better at it with no credible evidence that could be compared to gossip exchanged between 2 students at your local junior high

          • Sheila Warner

            I know you’re not asking me, but I’ve commented on this before. I was against the Iraq war before we put a single boot on the ground. I did not believe the reports about Hussein’s cache of WMD. So, what exactly do I have against the handling of the second Iraq war? That we attacked at all. We lost too many lives and maimed too many troops, with the outcome being an unstable country still struggling with violent factions battling each other. And don’t even get me started about the first war in Iraq.

          • D Parri

            Are you talking about Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait?

          • D Parri

            So, you would not have helped Kuwait after Iraq invaded them?

          • Sheila Warner

            Of course not. Just as I was against our military action in Libya, and am against military action in Syria. I don’t know if you remember this, but when Saddam was threatening to invade Kuwait, the United State’s first response was that it was in internal border dispute. Then, all of a sudden, we just had to go in and liberate Kuwait. I felt absolutely betrayed, and terrified, too, because my brother fought in that war.

          • D Parri

            Unfortunately, the non-interventionist, or isolationism policy does not always keep us from conflict. In the larger theatre of world alliances and cooperation, sometimes it is much better to state our position to help our allies who in turn help us, and then back it up. The problem is that backing it up requires sacrifices and to often that means boots on the ground. It is part of our stated military mission to help our allies.

          • Sheila Warner

            Was Kuwait a major US ally in the region prior to the first Gulf War? If so, why then was the USA almost dismissive of Hussein’s plans prior to marching into Kuwait? Not wanting to put boots on the ground if it is not in our national interest or to support our allies (usually we have treaties with those which state that we will support them) is not being isolationalist, but it is recognizing that we must be prudent in how we expend blood and treasure. I don’t want my family members killed in battle unless they are truly fighting for America or defending our allies. Again, look at Libya. Hardly an ally of ours but in we went. Let’s see some of the other nations with whom we have alliances, and let them do the heavy lifting for once.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Oh, approval ratings don’t matter to me. I couldn’t care less about them. I only brought it up because legal eagle said that the majority of Americans like his views. I no longer see evidence of that based on the approval ratings.

          • kidwinona

            Exactly and a majority sign, not the front, but the back of a check for some reason. Nice try

        • D Parri

          Weasel’s responses have only one theme–attack and denigrate Republicans and Conservatives. Pathetic.

      • D Parri

        If that’s not a personal, idiotic attack then I guess Legal Weasel’s standard of ‘attack them, but don’t attack me’ is just fine.

    • David W. Hunter

      hihoze. I don’t think Mr. Goldberg was saying that Republicans actually do detest the president because hes black. I think he’s saying that Obama’s loyal media will portray Republicans in that way.

    • Bernie

      I did NOT say that. I said the media would spin it that way. Read more carefully, OK?

      • hihoze

        OK Bernie. My apologies. Your use of ( ) mid-sentence and the word “probably” threw me off. The ( ) seemed like an insertion and the press never uses “probably” when accusing opponents of being racists. I should have known better knowing you, but who knows anymore? It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

    • legal eagle

      What are Cruz’s principles? That people should not have health insurance? Texas has more uninsured than any state in the country…Are Cruz’s principles to spread the wisdom of Dr. Seuss to all Americans?

      • hihoze

        What a poor straw man argument. Why don’t you find out what Cruz is really talking about instead of profiling your short comings?

    • legal eagle

      So Obama was too black for you and hung out with those Marxists and those colored folks and therefore you voted for McCain?

      • D Parri

        Why do you keep bringing up his color? You sound racist to me.

        • legal eagle

          Speak to Mr. Hihoz.. he was “impressed” with the colored guy until he learned of his background…LOL

          • D Parri

            LOL…..! Read Bernie’s article C-A-R-E-F-U-L-L-Y. Bernie referred to color. Corrections and apologies were made by hihoze below. Try again to get it right. :(

          • Jeff Webb

            Keep crying racism & mischaracterizing others’ posts and I promise two things:

            1) you still won’t achieve your goal to shut them up;

            2) you’ll get bounced the moment someone lodges a complaint.

      • kidwinona

        Obama’s mother was white – that makes him white. But no.., people say black. Why? I bet you can’t answer that and I don’t need a answer . But that is what 99.9999% of the public arrive at (he’s black) So so follow the logic If his mother was black would you say he was white. Think about it

      • hihoze

        Your sarcasm isn’t even freshman grade. Sad.

  • GoUSC BYU

    Are we now all delusional? Ted Cruz will never be the leader of a majority party in this country–hell, I’m a Reagan conservative and I’ll never pull the lever for him. He is cut from the same smarmy egotistical cloth as Obama—different sides of the same coin.

    • FriscoWalt

      You are totally wrong.

      • Josh

        How?

        If being a conservative to the point where anything the least bit non-conservative gets shunned was a winning strategy, that type of conservative would be on the rise and not on the decline.

        A 21-hour speech may give that type of conservative hope that their message of one-party principle domination is making some leeway, but everyone else outside of that particular circle views it as basically hot air.

        How exactly is it that being shut down to anything except what you personally believe will form a majority following?

        Heck, you can use something like Christianity as a prime example. Sure, it’s the most popular religion when you combine it on the whole. But there are over 40,000 individual sects, with each one claiming to the be the right one, with no play in the steering wheel along the bus ride to paradise. And if you pluck out a diehard for any random sect, this person is bound to be principled and devoted. But this person isn’t converting everyone else and turning that sect into a majority. People from other sects, and especially from other religions, want no part. And people who don’t subscribe to the religion at all think he’s over the nest.

        And, the worst part, the diehard from that sect doesn’t abide anyone living outside of it, which makes that person a social pariah whom a majority will never follow. At best, that person may become Koresh. But never a true leader of people.

        • Stand4liberty

          I understand your point and its valid. But by your logic, we either need to be liberal or accept the liberal way and keep quiet

          • Josh

            No. That’s not my logic whatsoever.

            You seem to be saying: Either you’re an uncompromising conservative who believes his or her principles are so sound that the entire nation needs to operate with them, or you’re a liberal.

            That seriously is not my logic.

            (And I’m not trying to strawman you here. If that’s not what you’re saying, then I don’t quite understand what you’re trying to say.)

            I see infinite shades of gray on the spectrum from right’s bright white to the left’s black abyss. I just happen to believe that freedom and rights in a true democratic society mean I need to be more careful and responsible than ever, not allowing what I believe to be right to become the standards by which everyone else must live. Some objective rights aside, the rest is all subjective, and these strange words like “principles” are just euphemisms for totalitarianism when the mere thought of even adjusting a stance for progress becomes caving in, backing down, or accepting the liberal way.

            Some may see it as noble to fall on a sword, go down with the ship, or whichever other cliches fit with remaining unmoved on what one believes. And this is where my “logic” comes in. I don’t see it as noble; instead, I view it as foolish.

            To make a stand, some are willing to bet America’s future on the snowball-in-hell’s chance that Cruz-like conservatives are going to gain traction in America if they continue to alienate everyone else, claiming that anyone outside of that particular orthodoxy is either liberal or wants to cave to liberals. It’s like they have this strange heroic dream where this is the biggest, bravest battle ever fought in human history, and they’d rather lose as principled people than win the long game if they have to give up a single inch.

            This can easily–and has already many times over–backfire and propel far more true liberals into positions of power.

            Then what? Repeat the cycle?

            Imagine this type of strategy in war. “Well, we’re outnumbered right now. But, hey, forget winning. Let’s show we’re principled and refuse to regroup and wait for reinforcements!” I almost expect someone in a real battle with that strategy would be yelling “Allahu akbar.”

            This is feel-good fodder for people who have felt too under and misrepresented in America, particularly under Obama, and so it’s a matter of pride. Understandable. But as a political strategy, this type of thing is the reason conservatives have so few seats in politics and fewer and fewer Americans willing to side with them ideologically — including most young people, most minorities (of all stripes), and especially guys like me.

            When one cannot even question the strange strategy without being libeled as a liberal, these types of conservatives have become a cult.

          • won’t will

            This is pure beauty. Mind if I share. thanks…

          • Stand4liberty

            I appreciate your thoughtful candor. I’m very aware of the need to be open minded and being able to adjust view points to deal with the reality of situations. I did not mean to accuse you of a black and white attitude, I was merely asking if one disagrees with the liberal path this country has been on then should we just submit to it instead of voicing our grievances.

            I agree that the close mindedness of the left and right will never solve real issues, I just wish there was a way to have a disagreement with the status quo without being labeled as a radical (not that you claimed that) but everywhere I look I see my point of view being slandered and attacked as if I’m not allowed to differ.

            Thank you for your views. It’s important to be able to discuss things rationally without a perceived ill intent

          • Josh

            I can’t figure this chicken-or-egg game here, personally. I’m not sure if it’s some of the Cruz supporters who call any dissent “liberal” or “caving” that’s causing the “zealot” reaction, or if it’s the Cruz types being called “zealot” that’s prompting the reply.

            Bernie’s piece certainly wasn’t the spark; just a continuation of the flame.

            All I know, like you, is that it can’t be a good thing.

            The overwhelming majority of people commenting here want the same thing. You and I probably want the same thing. Not to attempt to box you in here, but I’ll assume you, like me, want smaller, responsible government, more freedom, more choice, and a strict adherence to the Constitution.

            This debate is incredibly heated due to how we get there.

            David and Goliath is really a romantic tale when one examines the parallels between the large, ever-reaching arm of progressive government, smacking the little guy around against his will. But a slingshot isn’t the right tool for this job, I don’t believe.

            I haven’t personally slandered anyone whose view is that Cruz should wind up and launch a rock at Obama for 21 straight hours. I’ve been attempting to respectfully dialogue with a few people here, and by and large the favor has been returned.

            So, allow me to say thanks for that. And to the people who would slander someone else for a disagreement, they’re part of the problem and never the solution, yet never seem to realize it.

          • Stand4liberty

            You’re an insightful person and I appreciate you

          • Franklyn Douglas

            Well said.

          • Drew Page

            You must not be paying attention. Cruz is not alienating everyone else. He is giving voice to a position held by millions of people in this country. Would you suggest that those who fought and died at the Alamo were stupid? How about firemen rushing in to a burning building (like the World Trade Center) to save others a the risk of their own lives? Would you consider them stupid?
            Ted Cruz wasn’t filibustering that every position taken by conservatives on every issue was the only way things should be done. He was filibustering on the issue of defunding Obamacare, a law that was never read by those who voted for it and signed it into law, because it wasn’t supposed to include any of them. It was a piece of legislation that was based on lies from the beginning, including keeping your own doctor and hospital, about it reducing the cost of health insurance and about how much it was going to cost. Congress was exhorted to “pass the law in order to discover what was in it” by speaker Pelosi, who of course would not be affected by it. This was a law that didn’t receive a single Republican vote and which had to be bribed through the Senate, with the Cornhusker Kickback and the Second Louisiana Purchase.
            We have seen the beginning of the negative impact of Obamacare. employers are cutting the hours of full-time employees, making them ineligible for health insurance benefits. Others are dropping their health care plans, telling employees to go to the exchanges for their health insurance. Employers with fewer than 50 employees are refraining from hiring additional employees to avoid the penalties of Obamacare. The unions that supported this law are now wanting to be exempted from it as are federal employees, including those at the IRS who are supposed to administer it. Once this law takes full effect and becomes funded, it will be all but impossible to repeal it. If you doubt this, try talking about repealing social Security or Medicare and see what happens.
            Today’s wisdom seems to be let it alone and it will crumble on its own; people will become angry at its failure and blame Democrats and Republicans will take the House, Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016, then repeal Obamacare. Uh huh, just like the voters punished Obama for record unemployment, an economy in the tank, higher taxes, a ‘Stimulus’ plan that didn’t stimulate the economy, $17 trillion in national debt, 50 million people on food stamps and 1 in 6 Americans living in poverty. And of course we Republicans can count on the MSM to side with conservatives and blame the Democrats for the failure of Obamacare.

          • Josh

            Not Cruz personally. The Cruz-like conservatives who are all-in or nothing; his supporters who, all up and down this blog, and all throughout the nation, are throwing out words like “coward” and “liberal” and are shunning every single person who even dares to question the strategy.

            And, please. The Alamo?

            And now 911!? Holy crap. I can’t even find the words to convey how utterly dismissive that is of innocent men and women who were senselessly murdered at the whims of maniacal zealots, and those who gave their lives acting heroic in the carnage.

            I keep hearing folks bringing up the Alamo, the Revolution, religion, and other historic examples to romanticize this issue.

            It’s like stubbing your toe and claiming to sympathize and share pain in common with a person who had their legs blown off in war.

            I cannot offer much of a thoughtful reply to that level of warped thinking.

            But I will offer this advice. Take it for what it’s worth (though I suspect it worthless to one who feels Cruz is that level of hero).

            If you folks truly do believe that this is the great historic battle you’re claiming it is, where our very lives hang delicately in the balance, then you may do well to cut back on the hyperbole and shunning and instead adopt a more inclusive air about yourselves. After all, if the issue is that incredibly important that it must be handled this way, right now, despite any potential fallout that could worsen things exponentially, then you’re going to need all the support you can get going forward.

          • legal eagle

            And with all that the Republicans still cant win an election… Amazing how much smarter you are than the 60+ million who voted for Obama twice…

          • T Ko

            Which election was that? Of course I’m sure that you are aware of the fact that Obama received 65+ million in the last election. Which one were you referring to?

          • legal eagle

            Well 60+million is technically correct?….LOL

          • D Parri

            LOL…yeah, Romney received 60+ million also. Where’s the distinction, you idiot! Technically, they both received 10+ votes. LOL……!

          • Franklyn Douglas

            Drew I don’t think most of our elected officials read the bills they vote for. It may be true most that voted for it did not read it. But I also don’t think the ones that voted against it read it either. I think you should also read a bill you vote no to. But that’s just me.

          • D Parri

            I agree wholeheartedly regarding the responsibility to read a bill before voting either way.

          • Jeff Webb

            If a bill has been brought to a vote after you were repeatedly shut out from offering any input and given no time to read it, the only thing you should do is vote no.

          • legal eagle

            Elected officials have staff to read bills….The “blll reading” references on the ACA are nonsensical and have become a right wing talking point…

        • legal eagle

          The problem with Conservatives is that most of them are suffering for constipation and therefore they don’t give a crap about anyone…

          • D Parri

            “…suffering for constipation….” Suffering FOR constipation? Hey, that’s a GOOD one!

          • Drew Page

            Do us all a favor and become a real missionary. Liquidate all your assets, if you have any, donate the money to “the poor”, put on sack cloth and ashes and do your preaching on a street corner. But you won’t do that. Instead you’ll post your drivel here, criticizing a whole group of people who are as diverse as any other group, labeling them because they don’t agree with you. To me, it sounds like you are the one that needs a bran muffin, maybe it would provide the relief you seek.

    • legal eagle

      Cruz is the male equivalent of Michelle Bachman…A political bomb thrower who will say anything to get his face in the media…

  • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

    I now have a name if I ever get a pet Weasel! Bernie!
    Bernie, stop weaseling out of taking a stand. I used to think you were a true republican, now I think of you as a RINO. along with your cohort O’Reilly/
    Amnesty will kill us for decades, if not forever. Gun Control of any sort will be twisted ans used to first register then confiscate our guns. That will allow the like of Obama to kill our constitution and all our rights. You have a position where you could be heard. Remember Benghazi push for Obama and Hillary to be investigate. NSA spying ask for special prosecutor to probe Obama.
    I know you like you cushy job. Goodbye former friend of the conservatives

    • D Parri

      Hey, watch out for Legal Weasel here on this blog…he’s out for attack if you support ANYTHING republican.

      • legal eagle

        Not Anything…Anything stupid…

        • D Parri

          Translated, anything republican, anything not liberal left loon.

    • D Parri

      How ’bout “Legal Weasel”?

    • Stand4liberty

      People that hate Ted Cruz either don’t listen to him when he speaks, or they misinterpret him and place their own false premises on him. Why is it such a crime to revere the constitution and the founders, want smaller government, want less regulations and taxes, and stand for conservative principals while continuing to be polite and respectful. That’s Ted Cruz

      Oh and Bernie, I’ll tell you why Regan is the only conservative president in the last 80 years. This country has been overrun with a selfish entitled mindset and we’ve gone so far away from the founders vision of the federal government that its become a breeding ground for corruption that has been difficult to unravel. Look at what happens to a conservative when he tries to fight this corrupt governmental system, everyone from the establishment politicians left and right, to the media left and right, launch a full on attack like what’s happening to Ted Cruz right now

  • Conservative Citizen

    Well Bernie, Political Suicide is alienating you the core of your party. Do you honestly think their are droves of moderate republicans waiting to take the conservatives places at the polls? Losing just 10% of the base and Republicans will never again win an election. Even if some independents swing it will never be enough. You are thinking politics which is supposed to be about strategy, Yours is a loser.

  • Vicki Brooks

    Bernie. you have now lost me. wow. you missed the point entirely. You and O’Reilly are done.

    • Conservative Citizen

      I will never watch them again. Just like MSNBC.

    • legal eagle

      It would appear that you are so narrow minded that you only read or watch people you agree with….How sad..

      • D Parri

        And it looks like you only compliment people who agree with you…duh?

      • T Ko

        Sounds to me like she had been watching someone she did not agree with. Maybe?

  • Rose

    The 3 million Republicans who stayed home have given up on the GOP leadership who gave us Romney. They are tired of holding their noses and pulling the lever. They want a Republican who is fearless and waves the bold colors of Reagan.

    • legal eagle

      Maybe they can nominate General Custer? He was fearless…

      • D Parri

        I’ll take Custer…you can eat custard.

        • legal eagle

          Can’t eat custard…Doctor’s orders…

          • D Parri

            I’m sure you’ve found a substitute.

      • FriscoWalt

        Hope you ain’t a lawyer.

        • D Parri

          He’s not.

  • Mal

    last time I’ll bother reading Bernie!

    • legal eagle

      Wow…Bernie will be distraught….LOL

      • D Parri

        RU cryin’ yet?

  • Fish and bones

    Bernie is on to something, the GOP needs a real leader like Neville Chamberlain, not some reckless Patriot like Cruz.

    • DonaldYoungsRevenge

      Bernie should be breaking this story on Bill O’Reilly’s show. Obama has been using a fraudulent SS# for decades (042-68-4425). It was flagged several times before the SS Administration stopped people from reporting it. Look at details in blog below.

      Bernie should also be talking about Obama fraudulent registration with the Selective Service in 2008. Any simpleton journalist should be able to connect the damn dots, Obama is a FRAUD!

      belowhttp://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/09/obama-failed-e-verify-update-employees.html.

    • legal eagle

      GOP needs a leader like Wilt Chamberlain…

      • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

        Typical libturd, not an original thought in its head.

        • legal eagle

          Lets hear the Ted Cruz plan for healthcare reform?

          • D Parri

            Why, you’re not listening!

          • legal eagle

            Still waiting to hear Cruz’s healthcare plan??

          • D Parri

            With you’re ears closed you’ll be waitin’ a long time!

          • legal eagle

            I’m waiting….You can’t answer so you obfuscate with some B.S.?

          • Groovy

            Maybe we should get rid of the “eagle”, the legal ones.

          • T Ko

            Now that would be an excellent start!

        • D Parri

          Say it again! Only problem is that he thrives on being the antagonist. Watch out, though, he’s already admitted to being a pervert!

      • D Parri

        You gon’ hafta’ ‘splain dat’ one bo!

      • FriscoWalt

        Is that you Wilt?

        • D Parri

          ;)

        • legal eagle

          Wilt id only with us in spirit….Like St . Reagan…

          • D Parri

            You are amazing…speakin’ to the spirits now…wow! And you say he “id” with us…great.

  • John H

    Bernie is once again out of touch. And that’s why I generally ignore his advice.

    • legal eagle

      Whose “advice” to you take Hannity or Limbaugh’s?

      • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

        Listen to Legal eagle and do the opposite

        • legal eagle

          Just listen to the leaders of your cult……No thinking allowed by right wing cult members….

          • D Parri

            Thanks for giving us a briefing on the ‘rules’. I’m sure everyone will follow your wisdom and advice.

        • D Parri

          Correction: Legal Weasel

      • D Parri

        Are those the only choices? Geez….

      • John H

        You’re not much of a legal eagle. You can’t write very well. I like both Hannity and Limbaugh, but my preference is Mark Levin.

        • legal eagle

          good choice….Levin is the king of the haters followed closely by Savage and Hannity…..all bad for your mental health…LOL

          • John H

            Sounds to me like you’re the only hater. Now, why don’t you go take some lessons on English grammar!

          • D Parri

            But he’s really good at spewing out ignorant hate. Do you think he should be given the Hateus Emeritus award?

      • Drew Page

        whose advice do you take, Obama’s?

  • stay informed

    Standing up for your principles is not one thing – it’s the ONLY thing! There was a time in America when compromise kept our laws sane, workable, and moderate. However, progressive policies are not at all moderate now; slowly but surely they are ruining our country. I don’t know that we have enough time to compromise again and again to merely slow the steady march toward socialism… we need to STOP it.
    It is a dilemma, but It was the politically motivated compromises made by moderate Republicans that allowed the progressive movement to gain the stronghold it now has. Principles above politics… PLEASE!

    • Drew Page

      When the liberals call for ‘compromise’ what they really want is capitulation.

  • bruski

    Bernie the RINO…McCain, Dole, & Romney couldn’t get it done because of your RINO philosophy. Time for bold colors again, time to make a stand, time for the CRUZ missile!!!

  • Drew Page

    Bernie — You most likely think the Americans at the Alamo were a bunch of fools. They too had no chance of winning. You may correctly point out that they all got killed for their efforts. Were they a bunch of spoiled brats fighting because they couldn’t get their way? Why didn’t Martin Luther King just accept segregation? Maybe he would still be alive today if he were just willing to ‘compromise’ a little more. After all, a majority of the American public wasn’t all that upset about segregation, but they were generally against bussing and affirmative action. And what about those gay marriage activists? Don’t they know that the majority of Americans are against gay marriage? Yet there they are, out there in the public fighting for something the majority of the American people don’t accept.
    Why don’t you commission a cartoon showing these people pointing a gun at their own heads?

  • kathy

    When a law is as bad as Obamacare, Americans should just accept it????? Not try to stop the problems it will cause for Americans. The new party should be the constitutionalist party. America needs to be able to follow and adhere to the principals of the constitution, Not let the socialist lead America into a third world country. God bless Ted Cruz and the others for trying to bring sanity back to governance in the United States of America. Better to fight and not win than to not fight and be assured you will not win.

  • JGinzo

    Just makes me wonder what is the difference between a “moderate” Republican and a Democrat? None. Cruz is the guy who reminding the GOp of their conservative roots. The same kind of conservatism that ended slavery and brought this nation respect around the world as a superpower. Even the late JFK at times, in my opinion, had more conservatism in his pinky than a lot of the GOP now. I’ve never been ashamed of being called one but of the GOP doesn’t get its act together I’ll stop being a Republican and join another party.

    • legal eagle

      The difference is one votes Republican and one votes Democrat….

      • D Parri

        How did you manage to figure that one out? Amazing! And you are really a democrat?

  • lark2

    Bernie, You seem to be “coming out” … your Liberal roots are peeking out. Republicans, it seems don’t have a “core” … the traditional Republican – which you “seemed” to be, just wants to get along. These Republicans are lovable LOSERS. They see virtue in “reaching across the aisle” … and “working with” the Democrats. This ALWAYS MEANS letting the Democrats have what they want … with the hope that one day, they may get a few crumbs. They are nice people who are useless frauds. They can’t even articulate who they are and what they stand for. Republicans just want to be a part of the Washington establishment and get invited to all the right parties while enjoying all the personal perks of national office and the ability to dip into the federal trough to preserve political power back home. This group wants to participate in Hillary’s coronation and snag an invite to the “A” level parties. These “Republicans” want to “work with” the media elites in the Boston – Washington corridor. They HATE anything and anyone who might damage their fiefdom. I can’t speak for “others”, but I can no longer stand these people. The Republican party needs to get blown up and replaced with a whole new political party that has a “core” and knows what it stands for. I grew up in the South Bronx and went to Morris H.S. and James Monroe ….. you and I are contemporaries, so I know where you come from. I’m afraid you are just a New York Liberal who is a “Professional Journalist”. You are an admirable person but …

  • BenDoubleCrossed

    Bernie, you are just another RINO.

    The fact Romney created Obamacare lite in Massachusetts is what cost Republicans the election.

    As for Nancy, surely the citizens of the 12th District of California can find someone brighter than “we have to pass it to find out what’s in it Pelosi” to represent them?

    Nancy we know that the law is poison, gets between us and our doctors, is already costing more than the system it is replacing, is killing full time jobs and the creation of new jobs and is encouraging doctors to retire early or not accept Medicare or Medicaid.

    We also no that when the government is borrowing 40 cents of every dollar it spends, the economy is in the toilet and Social Security and Medicare are going broke is not the time to create a huge and incredibly expensive new entitlement.

    And we know that a government that has not been able to pass a budget or live within its means for over four years is incapable of saving us money.

    We the people are not employees of Congress. Congress is our employee and the majority of us do not want Obamacare! We did not want it when Hillary and Bill tried it and we do not want it now!

    Democrats like to remind the electorate that Obamacare is the law of the land. But I will remind Democrats that Prohibition was once the law also.

    Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are representing the will of the people and win or lose the current vote; they and we the people will prevail. Ask yourselves why the House went Republican in 2010.
    Stand for something or fall for anything. Remember after Newt’s government shutdown Republicans retained a majority in the house.

    See you at the polls.

    • legal eagle

      Stay ignorant my friend……Prohibition? You’re really digging deep for analogies…

      • BenDoubleCrossed

        Like I said: I’ll see ya at the polls!

      • lark2

        “Prohibition” is the most relevant point that can be made to the gun idiots … of course, they prefer not to hear about it. They created new criminals like Al Capone and others.and all the mob violence. Prohibition got thousands killed

      • Drew Page

        Want to go back a little further? Plessey v Furgeson was also the law of the land at one time. So was slavery.

        • legal eagle

          Plessy v. Ferguson was a not an entitlement program nor was Prohibition….think Republicans are going to take away people’s health insurance?

          • Drew Page

            So what? It was “the law of the land”. The point being that on one hand you are saying that the law of the land is sacred. On the other hand, you want to say the president can change it any time he wants to. We all know that the president picks and chooses which laws, or parts of laws, he wants to enforce and which ones he doesn’t want to enforce.

      • D Parri

        Maybe, but no matter. Pres O has no concern with following the law. He has already modified the law and he has no authority to issue OR change the law. Suck eggs.

        • legal eagle

          And what authority can you cite for you claim that the POTUS has no right to change/modify the law? Are you just making up stuff?

          • D Parri

            It’s called the U.S. Constitution, and it sets out the authority powers of each branch of government. Read It sometime.

          • legal eagle

            You say Obama can’t change or modify the ACA…..Where in the Constitution does it say that? I know you don’t like dealing with facts but occasionally it would be helpful….

          • D Parri

            Article. I.

            Section. 1.

            All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
            —————————————————————————–

            Now, I know it’s kind of difficult to understand, but there it is. You might want to take a look at it someday. Really, it’s not that bad…give it a try. Let me know if you have any more tough questions like that.

          • legal eagle

            We are no talking about a legislative power we are talking about the administration of the law….If the ACA said that no part of the law could be postponed then you’d be right….However, I doubt it says anything like that….
            If you want to keep saying something is “illegal” be my guest…

          • D Parri

            Yes, I will continue to cite the words as they are written. If you ever decide to pull your head out of…hmmm, the sand…then you might want to ask someone to explain the passage to you.

            The Constitution is not dependent upon the language of the ACA, but rather, the ACA MUST comply with the U.S. Constitution. Otherwise, the term used for legislation that is not compliant is “unconstitutional”. Look it up.

            Establishment, modification, and repeal of legislation is vested in the Congress and may not be delegated to any other branch or office.

            Hey! You might learn something here. Oh, never mind, you’re right…that ain’t gonna’ happen is it?

          • legal eagle

            I am a lawyer… You’re going to lecture me on how the law works? Stop acting like a fool…..

          • D Parri

            It would only be foolish of me to believe that you knew anything about the law. Lawyer? Give me a break! You know no more about the law than my dog knows about rocket science…pathetic!

          • legal eagle

            So you have no clue about what you’re talking about but you have a need to insult me…maybe you should talk to your dog more often

          • D Parri

            Apparently my dog can carry on a more intelligent conversation than you can. At least he can learn…obviously you can’t.

          • Jeff Webb

            What if a lawyer who is an expert on the Constitution makes the same argument as D Parri, LE?

          • Sheila Warner

            Hey, lawyers disagree about the law all the time. That’s why we having opposing counsel at trials. It’s why there are oral arguments during appeals. Interpretation is key. Lawyers also need to understand how precedent might affect the manner in which judges view those arguments. I’m not a lawyer, and I don’t play one on tv, but I’m smart enough to know that any complex issue will have a variety of viewpoints on it. I see it in religion all of the time: so many ways to interpret sacred texts. Five people can look at the same passage and come up with five ways to interpret it. SCOTUS has nine justices who have to interpret laws set before them. Very little in life is straight forward.

          • WhiteHunter

            The idiot doesn’t get it. Or rather, won’t admit it. On the one hand, his kind screams that “Obamacare is the law of the land!” and can’t be changed, delayed, defunded, or repealed by Congress. And then in the next breath they insist that Osama can “change/modify the law” any way he feels like doing (including waiving its punitive provisions for his friends and tightening them against his “enemies”).
            What he wants is a one-piece “execulegisjudicial” tyranny with their man on the throne in the palace and all other branches supinely submissive to him or else. Sort of like Saddam had.
            How about this little-known and now never-enforced clause: “The president shall take care that the laws of the United States be faithfully executed.” Of course, that also applies to immigration law, civil rights and voting law (except when it’s the civil rights of white voters in Philly)…the list goes on and on.

          • D Parri

            Your are right. Those same people who will not comprise one inkling regarding the implementation or application of the law also back the president when he chooses to modify the law solely and without authority. They either have not read or choose to ignore Article I Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America.

            The Supreme Court stated that this mandate for health coverage was, in effect, a tax. Congress has sole authority to levy taxes and create legislation designed for that purpose. Congress also has sole authority to repeal those laws or modify them as they see fit. The president has no authority whatsoever regarding that function and authority given to Congress.

            Therefore, a Republican controlled House and Senate will be able to repeal this ‘tax legislation’ and, therefore, undo the harm already imposed by the law.

          • Drew Page

            He doesn’t have the right to unilaterally change a law, but he does it anyway and gets away with it so it’s a moot point.

  • DOOM161

    That’s funny. I make my opinion by choosing the opposite of what you say. On science being taught in the classroom, on forcing businesses to offer specific product, and on whether or not we should fight liberalism. I’ll give you this: you’ve done a fine job falsely marketing yourself as a conservative.

    • legal eagle

      Bernie is a Republican not a cult member like yourself….You’ve lost your capacity to think, you’re only able to follow scam artists like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul..

      • Drew Page

        Calling myself a millionaire doesn’t make me one. Is everyone who takes a position you disagree with a “scam artist” or a “cult member”?
        Ted Cruz and Rand Paul aren’t the only people in this country who want Obamacare repealed. According to the polls, at least 55% of those surveyed also want this law repealed. Do you want to call the millions of Americans who are opposed to Obamacare scam artists and cult members? Go ahead if it makes you feel better.
        I understand why those who have no health insurance want someone else to provide it to them at a rate subsidized by taxpayers or for free. I can even understand why the Democrat party is willing to sell out the taxpayers in order to buy more votes for themselves. I also understand that this law had no bipartisan input or votes; it was bribed through the U.S. Senate; and it was passed by Democrats who didn’t read it and signed into law by a president who didn’t read it either, because they understood they would be exempt from it. The president has told the American public that “If you like your current health plan you can keep it. If you like your current doctor, you can keep him/her.” He also told us that Obamacare would reduce health insurance premiums by $2,500 a year for Family coverage.
        We have already seen the deleterious effects of Obamacare. Many employers are dropping their health insurance plans for employees, choosing instead to pay the fines which are far cheaper than insurance premiums and are directing employees to health insurance exchanges. Employers are also cutting back on employees’ hours, turning their former full-time jobs into part-time jobs making employees ineligible for health insurance. Debate these facts if you want to, but that doesn’t make them any less real. Call me a cult member, or a scam artist, but I’m not running for political office. I am just another victim of Obamacare, who has lost his employer insurance and will end up paying more for something less comprehensive than my previous coverage and paying for the coverage of those who can’t or won’t pay for their own.

      • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

        Absolutely lost for words as usual old sport.

      • kidwinona

        Actually you’re mixed-up. Paul and Cruz don’t have any experience when it comes to a scam., but Barry was a community organizer and that’s the experience needed to run a scam. Sorry, I hope I didn’t embarrass you by correcting what I would call another one of your consistent mistakes related to your IQ or maybe the gene pool where you live God Bless You

      • D Parri

        And who is the world’s #1 Scamist? Barack Hussein Obama !

  • kidwinona

    The rollover Republican is just another Democrat. How do you know who the public will blame? I know. They will blame the first idiot that comes on their TV. “Oh no don’t shut down the government- it works just fine” You moderates gave us the last two challengers to Obama, then with it his elected walk in the park. Moderates are the problem with their Democrat advisers, manipulating, playing them like the fools they are.

  • innessa111

    Watching you sometimes on Fox I thought that you, Mr. Goldberg, still have some common sense and understanding of what’s going on today in Washington and the USA. Sometimes I wasn’t sure on what side you really are. Now… it’s clear to me who you are and what you represent. I suggest you, like McCain and his old buddies, who completely lost the the sense of reality, because they are so far away from the real world, have to pack you things and retire. Go away! People you blasted in your “article” are the best there is, the real conservatives, with real understanding of what should (MUST) be done in our country. Your train, on the other hand, long ago left the station. Go Away!

  • justlisa

    Mr. Goldberg,

    The reason this country is in the mess it is in….too many “decades” of politicians “compromising”. They have “compromised” us. And, sadly, you prove to be no different.

    I will no longer be receiving your newsletter.

    Good luck.

  • Jimmy Cooper

    It’s called walking the walk when you talk the talk! You should try it sometime Bernie! Both of the individuals you cite should be commended for their actions. Unlike when you who knowingly disagrees with O’Reilly then tell him how right he is about everything, pay homage to him and spend the rest the night trying to get that brown stain off your face!

    • legal eagle

      Obviously you’re too stupid to understand how a grafter like Cruz is using Obamacare to raise money for his political career…
      The Republican crazies like Bachman and Palin had their day in the spotlight as will Cruz….He will soon fade into oblivion…

      • Drew Page

        More name calling, eagle? Why don’t you just say, ” Your mother wears combat boots.” ?

        • D Parri

          Legal Weasel has one theme only…attack anything that resembles support for republicans–that’s it. His attacks are always baseless and ignorant.

  • Chris Miller

    This article is a perfect example of Mr. Goldberg having been brainwashed by Dr. Sanjay Gupta of CNN. This confirms my suspicion that Mr. Goldberg is a “double agent” given he works for NewsCorp and Time Warner. He is not the only one. Other people who work for both are Dick Stockton, Pam Oliver, Larry McReynolds, Matt Yocum, Kyle Petty, Dr. Robi Ludwig, Dr. Wendy Walsh, Nina Easton, Adam Lashinsky, and Adam Alexander.

    It is time to come clean Mr. Goldberg. When was the last time you were in Atlanta? Did you visit Dr. Gupta before you wrote this article?

    • legal eagle

      I don’t know about Bernie but you need to see a mental health professional ASAP so you can be treated for paranoid schizophrenia…

    • D Parri

      Please don’t listen to what Legal Weasel has to say. He has already told me about his “four hour erection”, so this actually tells me that he is a pervert.

  • Al

    Forget party and look at where people stand on the bill of rights and the constitution. If they’re not “all in”, they don’t represent the people and they should be run out of office and replaced with no compromise Representatives that follow the constitution. Our representatives must also be willing to go after those that don’t adhere to the constitution and bill of rights.

    • legal eagle

      How do you “go after” those who don’t adhere to the Constitution?

      • Drew Page

        You vote their ass out of Congress. that’s how.

        • D Parri

          Amen!

      • D Parri

        Uh…enforce the law maybe? Just a thought.

      • D Parri

        Try reading it sometime.

  • Phil

    I’m sick of the Republican Party Civil War. Enough! Make it stop! Start battling the Democrats and stop killing yourselves! For the love of God!!!!!!!

  • David E La Faber

    Agree with the Eric Bolling comment,he and Sean Hannity are alike>thickheads!Reagan was a conservative,but he had moderate undertones(raised taxes,immigration)this is what they don’t understand,u have to have moderate nuances & come to the middle to compete with democrats today,u go all the way right u are virtually guaranteed to lose(don’t have the numbers)The standard that was in Reagan’s day to be a conservative is different than today-u have to be a 100% right wing or nothing in today’s GOP-Reagan wouldn’t even fit into today’s GOP>Their too extreme!they tout Reagan as their God,but their nothing like him.Conservatism has been dying for decades they don’t understand this.It’s good to stand on principle to a point,but use common sense and end it if u are guaranteed a loss!

    • Oliver

      - Canada: merged with Reform Party (like US Tea Party), dropped Progs from Prog Conservative Party in the 90s, now the Conservative Party of Canada, 6 yrs running #1 world economic ranking.
      – Germany: Conservatives just won by a landslide
      – Australia: Conservatives just won by a landslide.
      Tide is turning (back to sanity!) my friend.

      • Drew Page

        We can only hope, for the right change next time. Unfortunately, I think America will have to hit bottom before making a comeback.

    • Al

      Pure nonsense, to much party and not enough constitution involved in your thinking. It’s all constitution and after that threshold is met other things and issues can be talked about so long as they don’t in any way infringe the intent of the constitution and bill of rights. It’s simple but most politicians are busy trying to promote socialism, communism or some other “ism”.and themselves. Just stick to the founding fathers road map and there’s no need for for a party system. What’s good for America and Americans is all there is to it. Forget political correctness as the party system see’s it. Just represent America and Americans and get the heck out of the UN and it’s extreme left agenda so we can get back to common sense and the betterment of our fellow men and women. There’s been a lot of damage done to this country by un-american Representatives and ideas. It might be to late to fix the damage but not to late for American principals to surface and give repair an honest effort.

    • legal eagle

      So you’re comparing two television clowns to the POTUS? Who do Bolling and Hannity have to answer to except Roger Ailes?

      • D Parri

        Uh…maybe their audience?

    • Drew Page

      How many ‘moderate undertones’ do Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama have?
      Republican “compromises” with Democrats has led us to the situation we have today. Reagan was able to come to a meeting of the minds with Tip O’Neal because both were reasonable men. With Obama, it’s his way or the highway. Remember candidate Obama promising an open forum, round table discussion on health care reform to include doctors, hospital administrators, representatives from the pharmaceutical and health insurance industry and bipartisan members of Congress to be televised on C-SPAN? I sure do. I also saw what happened when candidate Obama became president Obama. Health Care Reform meetings were held behind closed doors with no input from Republican Congressmen. It was arm-twisted through a Democrat controlled House and bribed through a Democrat controlled Senate, all without a single Republican vote and not having been read by those who voted for it or who signed it into law. And why? Because they believed they would be exempt from its provisions.
      The only way you are guaranteed a loss is if you don’t fight. It is not conservatism that has been dying for decades, it is that parasite-ism has been growing for decades.

  • Chuck

    Cruz knows full well that his effort will go nowhere, but he’s on a twofold mission: (1) Force the Democrats to own Obamacare more fully in advance of the 2014 midterms. When the full disaster and reality of this law really hits, there’s no way Obama and the Democrats can escape culpability. Plus, any of its supporters up for reelection make themselves highly vulnerable; (2) Make himself a Republican Party frontman and 2016 presidential contender.

  • Barancy Peloma

    i agree with bernie. bolling is a tool.

    • Drew Page

      It takes one to know one.

  • alegalcitizen

    Well then, lets’ just roll over and play dead then! I’m SICK and TIRED of the Republicans acting like it’s all about THEM, we didn’t send them to Washington to be Democrats, or we would have elected a freakin Democrat!
    I don’t think any SANE person would blame the Republicans IF DC were shut down, I’m DAMN tired of them NOT reining in spending, putting shrimp on a treadmill in their dang bills, putting anything in them OTHER than what the bill is for should NOT happen!

    • legal eagle

      If you’re tired of it all take a nap…

      • Drew Page

        That’s the trouble, too damn many in this country have been napping. It’s time to wake up and elect leaders who will lead, from the front, to revive the U.S. economy by revising the tax code to a simplified flat tax, by repealing Obamacare, by approving the Keystone Pipeline, opening public some public lands to oil and gas exploration, by easing the restrictions and red tape of regulatory agencies on entrepreneurs trying to build new businesses thereby creating new jobs and employment opportunities. Let’s take the handcuffs of business and restore employment, bringing back employees to employment rolls and off welfare rolls.

      • http://www.LuckyLuxtonAffiliateMarketing.com/ Keith “Lucky” Luxton

        Legal Eagle has a great time just making snide remarks without any study as to who or what he is referring to. Shame really

      • D Parri

        Is that what you do?

  • Pollyanna

    Has it not occurred to anyone that Cruz knows he won’t “win” this battle in the short run, but perhaps can win the war in the long run? He’s a smart guy. He knows that old school Republicans won’t vote for cloture so Reid (the snivel) can strip the defunding out of the bill and in the end, no government shutdown and Obamacare kicks in. The Republicans may be clueless about many things, but they surely are smart enough to know they will get full blame by Obama and the media if the government is shut down. So how does Cruz win? When the American people are actually experiencing the effects of Obamacare on their premiums, health care, jobs, etc and see that it’s terrible, THEN he can say “hey, I did everything in my power, against all odds to keep this from becoming law but I didn’t have enough support from Democrats and old school Republicans.” Then who comes out the champ? Harry Reid who refused to allow any amendments? John McCain who is apoplectic over Cruz?

    I’d say Senators Cruz, Paul, Rubio, and Vitter and the House of Representatives will come out looking like their are actually listening to and fighting for the American people.

    Most Americans are ready for politicians to start acting in the best interest of the people. At least these new senators are showing some balls and character–something sorely lacking from both parties.

    Remember–complacency is a bad thing. Democrats are complacent and sure that Clinton will trounce everyone in her path.

    Republicans are scared to do anything risky or take a stand. Look where that’s gotten us in the past thirty years.

    I love Bernie, but lately, I’m disagreeing with him.

    • Drew Page

      You make a lot of valid points and I can’t disagree with any of them. I used to like Bernie a lot more when he was taking on the MSM .

  • Concernedmimi

    I applaud Ted Cruz and all who assisted in standing on principle.Beats rolling over and playing dead like the other side wants. What? are we to listen to FOX talking heads who were instrumental in setting up Romney for the slaughter??Real conservatives knew he was too amicable to go up against the corrupt democrat machine. I now know more about the evils of obamacare because of the bravery of Cruz, Lee and others. I stayed up all night watching with AWE!!!!!

    • legal eagle

      Lets pray that Cruz is led to the slaughter against Hillary in 2016….

      • kidwinona

        Just get it over with and admit your love for Hilliary. You would be perfect for each other and she’s kind of single- like it matters now-a-days. God Bless

        • legal eagle

          Millions of American love Hillary and she will be coronated in 2016…..About time we had a female POTUS…

          • Jeff Webb

            You don’t look particularly smart wanting the lying Butcherette of Benghazi to become president, but you just go ahead and keep the faith.

          • legal eagle

            You’ll have to come with a better slogan than that to win the election…

          • Jeff Webb

            No, no slogan here; just reminding you of what you’re supporting. Anybody who votes for HC will either have no clue about Benghazi, or be too shallow or partisan to care.

          • D Parri

            Nope, I’m gonna’ have to disagree with you for a change because that sounds pretty damned good to me.

          • kidwinona

            “About time we had….???? Sure since you imply having a female, just because it’s a female, why not have Monica Lewinsky. So when you voted for Curious George the last two times, following your logic it was because he was black. Problem is he’s not black—his mother was white -that makes him white. Are you sure Hillary is female?

          • legal eagle

            We did have a quasi female president named Nancy Reagan as Ronnie was out of it most of the time.

          • kidwinona

            Don’t be silly, but again I’ll follow your logic-Hillary already served two terms and as a matter of fact- all Barry’s closest women (advisers) are technically making the decisions

          • D Parri

            Ok, to cite my ol’ friend Legal Weasel, where’s your proof?

          • D Parri

            I have no problem with a female POTUS. However, if Hillary becomes the one then get ready for a 4-year case of diarrhea.

          • legal eagle

            Buy some Emetrol….it will help with the runs…

          • D Parri

            If I have to see her face each day it will take something MUCH stronger.

          • legal eagle

            Well I’m sure you’re hatred and bitterness will keep you from thinking about your bodily functions…

      • D Parri

        Yes, but I think you’ve got it backwards as to whose slaughter will be rendered. Thank goodness.

  • Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    I AM GLAD CRUZ HAS GUTS THAT IS MORE THAN SOME OF THOSE DEMORATS HAVE.

  • floridahank

    The problem with the majority of the GOP is that they’re gutless. Listen, if you’re a Republican, why can’t you all get together behind Republicans who are for doing something good for the citizens, and ALL REPUBLICANS vote together and get the damn job done. There are too many Republicans who are greedy, selfish, and don’t have the guts to fight together and kick assss of the Dem’s .
    It’s that simply VOTE TOGETHER and you’ll beat the Dems — what’s so hard to figure?

    • curiousdemo

      Obviously, you didn’t read Bernie article. He’s so correct. Loons shouldn’t be speaking for the Republican Party.

      • floridahank

        Give me a list of your “loons” and a list of your “non-loons” I’m curious to know how you evaluate our politicians and leaders.

  • Gramps43

    Mr. Goldberg There is an old saying that goes something like “If you don’t stand for something then you will eventually stand for nothing.” At least Sen. Cruz and Mr. Bolling are standing for something, they are laying their cards on the table for all to see, instead of holding them close to the vest in hopes no one will see there’s nothing on them. I’ll bet you to the punch on this, today after Senator Cruz had finished his mini-philabuster Senator McCain got up and excoriated his fellow Senator. It is the opinion of this septuagenarian that the whole of the Republicans in the senate should shun Mr. McCain for a minimum of 48 hrs. as punishment for this uncalled for act of political barbarism.

  • MarioG

    Bernie shows that he has only been pretending to have left the liberal bubble when he writes, “Here’s how I come to my political opinions these days. I listen very carefully to what Eric Bolling says about a particular issue from his perch at Fox news. And then I take the opposite position”

    What?

    Isn’t that like a brat having a snit?

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      It’s called sarcasm, Mario.

      • MarioG

        The sarcasm is misplaced based on the rest of the column. Bernie’s illustrating how he survived in the liberal bubble all those years until he saw the financial benefit in outing his old friends.

        To arrive at his conclusion Bernie has to turn himself into a pretzel and pretend that it is the Republicans who are shutting down the government and not the Democrats who would actually be the ones shutting the government down.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          lol. What? You think he’s a double agent? Thanks. That made my day.

          • MarioG

            No, he’s confused. For some reason he thinks that Ted Cruz is supposed to roll over and meekly submit to callous and cynical statist thugs like Barack Obungler, Harry Reid, et. al. who are destroying everything that made this country great and the laughing stock of the world for “leading from behind”. LOL!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Ah… confused. Okay.

            And you’re saying it not confusing, then, for Cruz to cling to a tactic that has no chance of winning whatsoever, at the expense of the rest of his party who needs more seats in order to actually begin stripping away Obamacare?

            I like what Cruz has to say about Obamacare, and I admire him for what he did last night, but he has brought us no closer to shutting down Obamacare, and if he continues down this legislative road, he’s bring us even further away.

            I want Obamacare taken apart, not symbolic gestures that only hinder that from happening.

          • MarioG

            John – tsk, tsk, tsk. Where did you see in the Constitution where it said that a legislator must only express himself on a bill when his opinion has a chance of winning? Was Ted Cruz elected to roll over and play dead in front of thugs like Harry Reid and Barack Obama who rammed a bill through the Legislature in 2009 without anyone being allowed to read the bill, or debate or offer amendments because of whiuch it did not garner a single Republican vote.

            Why is Ted’s attempt to defund and stop Obamabare, which everyone with an ounce of honesty, like one of its authors Sen. Max Baucus says will be a train wreck, and Congress and numerous organizations with political clout don’t want anything to do with for themselves, negatively affect the Republicans. I’m sure you know that the GOP have funded the entire government except the disaster known as Obamacare. So, why would the blame not be placed where it belongs – the DemocRATS?

            Are you aware of any entitlement in history that has been “stripped away” as you so quaintly put it? Did you know that the $900 billion that Obama said it would cost has gone to $3.5 trillion according to the CBO after they got around to reading it.

            What makes you think that shining a spotlight on this diabolical monstrosity, plus the increases in costs that most Americans will be shocked to see for themselves will not come in handy down the road. Besides, we finally have a Senator who followed through on his campaign promise to do everything he could to stop Obamacare. That should also tell us something about Cruz being a principled conservative not just someone who says one thing to get elected and then does something else once they go to Washington.

            Based on your philosophy football games would be decided by the pundits because what would be the point of a weaker team playing when they had “no chance” of winning?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>John – tsk, tsk, tsk. Where did you see in the Constitution where it
            said that a legislator must only express himself on a bill when his
            opinion has a chance of winning?

            Who’s challenging his constitutional authority? I’m challenging the wisdom of what he’s doing. The strategy I want to see is Republicans winning elections, gaining seats, and peeling away Obamacare. Nothing Cruz is doing has any chance of stopping Obamacare. All it does is make that less likely.

            Again, I like Cruz. I like his principles, I like his heart, and I think he’s a good voice of opposition toward Obamacare. I liked his overnight, pseudo-filibuster.

            What I don’t like is his inability to face the realty of his defunding plight.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Actually I think he gets it. His problem? Rand Paul got lauds for a “filibuster” so Cruz needed a little boost. While Rand Paul is becoming a stand out on ethical coherency, it’s unlikely that America is ready to elect a Libertarian. Liberals reject them for everything, while conservatives actually reject them for offering too little Government. Rank and file conservatism still wants to interfere on public and political morality. (illegal drugs and prostitution etc.) While the media demonizes conservatives, conservatives are demonizing “RINO’s” , and no one but pot heads and isolationists will elect libertarians. (not that they don’t deserve a whole lot better) 2014 and 2016 are already on us. Better to stake out the ground and kick up some dust now. Conservative cohesion (if it comes) will not come (this time) from going along to get along. Cohesion needs coherence, something modern conservatism is sorely lacking. (mostly thanks to the modern leftist media)

        • sinz54

          That’s idiotic.

          Here’s your logic in action:

          You point a gun at someone and tell him that if he doesn’t meet your demands, you’ll shoot him.

          Then you shoot him.

          And then you claim it was his own fault for refusing to meet your demands.

          When it was your fault for pointing a gun at him in the first place.

          Cruz and his supporters made no secret of the fact to use the threat of a government shutdown as their leverage to try to get Reid and Obama into going along with defunding ObamaCare. They even said that this was their going-in position and that eventually they would settle for just a delay of ObamaCare.

          IOW, they pointed the gun first.
          And that’s why they’ll be blamed.

          • alegalcitizen

            WELL I personally think OBAMA pointed the gun first when he said ‘I will NOT compromise”, he NEVER compromises, he just points his finger and blames, I have a finger for him, it’s in the middle of my hand!

          • watcherofolde

            He made it clear this was a bill that was passed without being read by ANYONE. And, written behind closed doors by someone who now calls it a ”train wreck.” I’m glad Cruz was at least able to make these and other points while at the podium.

          • MarioG

            What alternate universe are you writing from?

            The DemocRATS and the administration have carpet bombed the country with Obamacare. Obama said it would cost $900 million before anyone had read it and the CBO now says $3.5 trillion. Nothing that Obama promised about keeping your policy and your doctor was true – simply brazen, bald faced lies. The plan is so good that Congress exempted itself, its staff and federal employees from it. Literally thousands of exemptions have been granted to politically connected organizations and the AFL-CIO wants out. Their president Hoffa said it would devastate jobs for their members. One of the authors Sen. Max Baucus now says it will be a train wreck. The GOP is trying to defend the country from this wanton assault on working Americans on top of the devastation already wrought on the US economy over the last 4 years.

  • Rose

    Bernie you are wrong. We need to make a stand. The country hates Obamacare .Try calling a congress man or senator. You can’t get through. We are calling, emailing, Faxing, etc. They are not listening. How well did Romney do? 3 million GOP voters stayed home. We’re tired of it. We want our country back.

    • sinz54

      There is no evidence that 3 million GOP voters stayed home.

      This is yet one more urban myth that the GOP base talked itself into, in order to avoid facing the reality of what really happened.

    • Oliver

      Well we know for sure the dead ones stayed home, unlike all those dead Democrat voters, many of whom voted multiple times!

    • brickman

      So it’s the fault of 3 million republicans that Obama won. If so, they should shut their mouths. They have no right to complain. All I hear is about conservatives with courage, but these people didn’t have the courage to keep Obama from his second term. Or are they just lazy crybabies?

  • MarioG

    The last time I checked the Constitution required everyone elected to fight like hell for what they believe and not roll over because they may lose.

    The Continental Army went up against the British superpower at the time regardless of what the outcome may have been.

  • jackietreehorn3

    “life is not always a matter of holding good cards, but sometimes, playing a poor hand well”-jack london
    i wish the GOP could understand that

  • Stimpy

    Bernie, all these rabid conservative replies proves your point. What we need are more politicians and republican candidates who understand how to play poker. You don’t go all in holding 7 deuce offsuit. You exercise some patience and wait for good cards and ‘play position’. Trying to overcome Obamacare at this point (a quixotic, doomed-to-failure exercise) only pushes chips (voters) in the democrat direction. Back off, wait for the 2014 mid-terms, and then play your cards.

    • Eric Lennert

      UMMM Moron that is what they will do ! D’s will get Murdered in 2014 & the Inside the Beltway RINOS will drag Jeb Bush across the Finish line & get axe Murdered By Butchy Hitlary

    • Oliver

      You’re wrong because your basic premise is wrong.
      Your scenario assumes the GOP would know what to do with a winning poker hand, and that the Dems wouldn’t cheat.
      In reality, the Dems ALWAYS cheat and the GOP has NEVER won a hand even when they hold all the trump cards. (Apologies for the mixed metaphor.)
      Re-run your scenario with a more realistic set of premises and see where it takes you.

  • Eric Lennert

    Ya Mean R’s Like John McLame & Mitt Romneycare YEAH that’s good Sorry Bernie but You are a LIb & will not listen to a Lib tell a Conservative they are doing something Wrong

  • gerry

    Bernie:
    Always enjoy your weekly debate with Bill O’Reilly. More often than not I gree with your remarks about the “lamestreet leftwing media elitists.”
    When is a government shutdown, not a shutdown? According to a college dictionary a shutdown occurs when a company or entity closes and people stop working.
    You know as well as I that the government WILL NOT SHUTDOWN.. Exceot for a few non-essential services the government will continue to function. Social Security will continue to send checks or direct deposit of every retiree. The group most concerned about a mythical shutdown. Medicare and Medicaid will continue
    to pay patients bills. Air traffic controllers will continue on the job.. Military operations, border security, coastal protection including the Coast Guard will be on the job. Law enforcement, criminal investigations, counter-terrorism efforts will continue. The FBI, DEA, Secret Service and U.S Marshals Service will continue to serve our country. The Post Office will not stop delivering mail to our homes. The National Weather Bureau will be on the job. The FDA is expected to perform its normal services.. So Bernie, where is the government shutdown when close to 80% of services provided by the federal bureaucracy?
    The term “Government Shutdown” was coined in 1985 by America’s number one con artist slippery Bill Clinton. Check it out.

  • Matthew Romans

    The best course for the Republicans is to insist that EVERYTHING in Obamacare be enacted now, so that America feels the full pain of this law before the 2014 midterms and 2016 Presidential election. Only if conservatives take back the Senate AND the White House can we get rid of this monstrosity. They will never win a PR war in the Media.

  • Sheila Warner

    Bernie, I suppose you saw Eric Bolling take issue on “The Five” with your column. Today I finally got a chance to read it for myself. I, too, am making similar points with members of the GOP. It’s amazing that such a reasoned point of view, with excellent points, falls on such deaf ears. The writer who accused you of having some disease of the optic nerve may want to consider the rose colored glasses the conservatives in the GOP are now wearing.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Just watched Bolling’s comments. Found it very interesting that he didn’t actually address Goldberg’s criticisms of him, and instead pretended as if Goldberg was simply criticizing him for being a conservative.

      The column’s criticism was clearly about the tactics, not the ideology. Going “all in” with a hand that can’t possibly win, and betting everything in the process, is foolish… and that’s why Bolling sounds like a fool.

      • legal eagle

        Bolling will say whatever Roger Ailes tells him to say…

        • Jeff Webb

          Soros tell you to say that?

      • Sheila Warner

        Agreed.

  • Helland

    Sir, you need to come out of your Ivory Tower, visit fly-over country and get back in touch with reality.

    • legal eagle

      Fly over country is reality? In what country?

      • Helland

        Ah ha ! You are a bit of an elitist too. Pundits say it is anywhere in that part of the U.S.A. Democrats don’t need between the high population density, liberal, democrat leaning, “blue” cities on the last Pres voting map.

        • legal eagle

          I’m a realist not an elitist…..Wyoming, Iowa, Montana etc. having the same representation in the Senate as California is one of the major problems in our system of government…

          • alegalcitizen

            That’s the most RIDICULOUS statement on here, you think those idiots in Mexifornia need MORE Senators? That’s why it was set up the way it was 2 Senators for EVERY state, so that ONE party isn’t the ONLY party.

          • Helland

            Examine then Article 1, sec 2, pp 3 of our Constitution and examine the history behind it. Actually the Senate intentionally is equal while the House of Representatives is based on local (State) population. It is after all called a bi-cameral legislature.

  • jonshepp

    Bernie. I always respect your opinion and your professionalism. However, you may want to get to a doctor in my seeing what you wrote today.
    That’s because you could have contracted a disease that’s hard to recognize, Rectaloctalitis. It easily spreads from Republicans who have drunk from the same well as Democrats, jackasses not well known for their respect of wellness. The disease allows the optic nerve to become entangled with the intestine, giving the infected person a really crappy outlook on life that can affect important decisions.

    This has been proven without a doubt for Democrats in their passing a healthcare bill, which was originally not called a healthcare bill and once written never read by many of them. It is a bill that would force a fee or penalty upon Americans that wouldn’t want to pay for something they never ordered, these jackasses gladly forcing an unwanted product upon unsuspecting Americans.
    That fee or penalty was NEVER intended to be a tax. Yet these jackasses became excited when the Supreme Court chose to become a legislative body and rename their fee a tax for Americans to pay. And since that fee is now declared a tax, which is outside of the authority of the courts via the Constitution, the IRS in turn would no longer simply ignore the fee if unpaid as originally intended by the jackasses but must now go after the American who refuses to pay a fee that suddenly has become an unintended tax.

    One would hope the Democrats would therefore declare their healthcare bill as incorrectly written and motivated, rescinding it. They could then change the word fee or penalty to the word tax and then vote on the bill again, hoping the American people would approve another tax placed on their kitchen table.
    That would be the honorable thing to do for a legislative body run by elected representatives who continue to drink from an infected well, one conveniently located down front in their chamber readily available for reinfection.

    • legal eagle

      You got about 50% of your facts correct…Compared to most who comment on this website you are a genius…

  • Seattle Sam

    I am distressed to read both the way Bernie makes his point and the misinterpretations of it that appear in this thread. The point Bernie is trying to make (I’m pretty sure) is that while he is aligned with Senator Cruz on objective, he is not aligned on strategy. The best way to ultimate rid ourselves of Obamacare may not be to confront it in Congress AT THIS TIME. Certainly that is not an irrational position. General Lee had the highest of principles in mind and was certainly aligned on objective with the rest of the Confederacy. His attack at Gettysburg was not the right time or place to assault the Army of the Potomac. In fact if he had not attacked at Gettysburg, the CSA might very well have been able to stand off the Union and negotiate a peace. I’m sure those who charged with Pickett felt exhilarated at the time, but their action ultimately contributed to losing the war.

    It would be more productive if Cruz supporters were to focus on building a rationale why Fight Now is a superior strategy to Fight Later ( when we have had a chance to retake the senate).

    • MarioG

      Unfortunately, Bernie’s has no strategy that makes any sense. The case for fighting now is clear. I don’t know a single entitlement that has been repealed once it was implemented.

    • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

      You say, in part:

      ” . . .
      The point Bernie is trying to make (I’m pretty sure) is that while he is
      aligned with Senator Cruz on objective, he is not aligned on strategy.
      The best way to ultimate rid ourselves of Obamacare may not be to
      confront it in Congress AT THIS TIME.”
      . . . .

      Nuts! Bernie’s point was join in by summarily trashing Ted Cruz. One unmistakable bit of proof was his posting, along with this, of a disgraceful and sarcastic photoshop of the Senator with a gun to his head.

      That is not an example of a mere disagreement over strategy. It is a nasty and polemical attack on the senator who had just successfully redrawn attention to a matter of serious political concern to our nation and our economy.

      What so many of us are saying in response in this comment thread is:

      “Mr. Goldberg . . . Tear down this post!

      • sinz54

        Cruz is trying the political equivalent of Pickett’s Charge, and Goldberg is right to warn us how disastrous Cruz’s choice has been.

        And we didn’t need Cruz to redraw attention to ObamaCare. We’ve been debating it and debating it and debating it for FOUR YEARS! Romney made repealing ObamaCare a centerpiece of his Presidential campaign. Conservatives went to the Supreme Court to try to get Roberts to declare it unconstitutional. Etc.

      • legal eagle

        Trashing Ted Cruz? Guess no one can do that to the egomaniacal Senator from Canada…

        • Jeff Webb

          Sounds like you just can’t disguise your racist nature.

        • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

          Your habit of just scrolling down the thread and posting little cutesy quips, is repetitively childish and obviously stupid. However, if at any point you should actually figure out something worthwhile to say, please be sure to stop back. Of course, none of us need hold our breath in anticipation of such a theoretical miracle.

      • legal eagle

        Go walk the dog and make sure you pick up the crap…

    • alegalcitizen

      I think the point is ONCE it kicks in HOW do you EVER get rid of it!
      So we retake the Senate, say it is voted OUT, do you EVER think Obama would sign it? NOT a chance in Hades!

      • Seattle Sam

        But you’re pretty sure the President would allow it to be aborted TODAY?

        • alegalcitizen

          NOT a chance in hell, it’s his BABY, passed by a bunch of people that had to RUSH it through, and slapped down EVERY Republican amendment, they own it, lock, stock and barrel!
          “they had to pass it to see what was in it, away from the fog of the controversary”. Idiots all!

  • seenitbefore

    after the reichtags fire, i wonder how many Germans said, “we can’t win now, so it’s better to go along until a later date?

    • Seattle Sam

      Your comment implies that it is unlikely that Republicans can retake the Senate in 2014. I disagree.

  • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

    Bernie,

    On this topic, I could not disagree with you more. Yours is the well-articulated voice of appeasement — of admitting that the mere prospect of continued confrontation seems to sicken you so much that you would prefer surrender before the end of the game.

    Bernie, that has never been a winning strategy in any endeavor.

    As a result, you sarcastically announced the outcome for a fighting member of the opposition before the game was over.

    Ted Cruz is putting up a fight by merely focusing people’s attention on a serious problem — back in 2009, the President and the then-entirely Democrat controlled Congress adopted a measure that was so complex, contradictory, and so ill-conceived, that as it is only now about to come into effect and further trash our dicey economy.

    No one has succeeded in putting this monster down in any respect to date — other that a few dozen ultimately toothless votes in the House of Representatives — and yet you summarily trash one guy who had managed to draw renewed attention to the coming disaster.

    Cruz put it succinctly and well when he said, “Washington depends on the American people not paying attention.”

    But you chose instead to trash him.

    I really hate to say this, Bernie, but to be very blunt, in this fight, you are not the kind of guy anyone would want to share a foxhole with.

    • sinz54

      There are other choices between appeasement and kamikaze tactics.

      The problem is that folks like you keep thinking with your adrenal glands instead of your brains. You’ve worked yourself up into such an emotional frenzy as if ObamaCare is Armageddon that you want an all-out fight against someone who holds a superior hand and can’t be bluffed on this one.

      ObamaCare is Obama’s baby and the thing the Dems have wanted for 40 years. They’re never going to cave on it and agree to defund it. Never.

      • alegalcitizen

        They WILL never vote to defund it, but they got a real cozy deal from obama through the Office of Personnel Management to give EVERY Government worker a subsidy paid for by YOU and I while they make WAY MORE than the average citizens the FORCED this on by “passing it to see what was in it, away from the fog of the Controversary”, NO ONE read the damn thing, and congressmen’s Staffers were squealing like a bunch of piggies that they would have to find a different job, because they at 80 to over 100,000 couldn’t AFFORD IT, but us peons can fund ours and theirs!!

      • alegalcitizen

        sinzs54, WHERE is the money going to come from for this monster? HOW can they force a Doctor to take Medicare and Medicaid patients??? HOW when I see signs in some offices now that they will no longer take those patients!

        • legal eagle

          Perhaps you should stop going to quacks and go to a real doctor…

          • alegalcitizen

            These are specialists you quack!
            Perhaps you should see the Great and wonderful OZ, maybe he can get you a brain!

          • legal eagle

            Mental health specialists?…..LOL

          • WhiteHunter

            The troll’s Primary Care Physician is a proctologist. That way, one doctor treats all of him.

      • http://TrochilusTales.blogspot.com Trochilus

        Never is a long time. The problem is that folks like you are incapable of real thinking, period. Ted succeeded in redrawing attention to the problem at a time when attention was very much needed. He succeeded in pointing out again the myriad of problems associated with Obamacare.

        But all you surrender monkeys want to do is move on when the going gets a little tough.

  • Oliver

    Bernie,
    You’re basically saying we should let the GOP keep playing the same old stupid games that always get us exactly nowhere. According to Einstein, that’s pretty much the definition of insanity.
    The real crux of this argument is that you actually believe the old guard GOP can or will do something to fix this mess, even tho’ experience says otherwise.
    I envy your optimism, atho’ I certainly don’t share it.

  • MontanaMade

    Sorry Bernie- you lost me on this one- You have officially become a liberal. Welcome to the MSM pandering crowd waiting to kiss Obama’s ring. You have given up- given in to those that WANT Obama to run their lives instead of being a free people with liberty worth dying for- worth betting your entire future on.

    Let me know how that works out for you…

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      A liberal? Because he wants a strategy for stripping apart Obamacare that would actually WORK?

      • Eric Lennert

        I Liberal because that is WHAT He says he is

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          When did he say he was a liberal?

          • sjangers

            Uh, John, I think there’s a little misunderstanding here. Eric didn’t say “he” said Bernie was a liberal, he said “He” said he was a liberal. Eric might have his information from the Big Guy.

          • Eric Lennert

            I have heard him say it on Billy Bullshit O’Reilly’s show

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            No you haven’t.

          • Sheila Warner

            Which proves that Eric doesn’t watch The Factor. Love it when people claim to have heard something on the show when it never happened. I am an avid watcher of the show; probably no big surprise.

          • Eric Lennert

            YES Yes I have , Ask him you Fucking Moron he will tell you

          • Josh

            Sometimes a “LMAO” just doesn’t cut it.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            You’re lying, dude. Stop digging yourself deeper.

      • MontanaMade

        Yes John- a liberal.

        Look- MANY people in Congress were sent there in 2010 & 12 to do the very specific task of defunding Obamacare- period! They ran & got elected on that platform. Then when it really came down to it- only a few actually stood up and did the thing they were elected to do- REPRESENT THE PEOPLE!

        But those that backed out, and those that are the old guard, are now castigating the brave Senators/Congressmen for doing their job! We sent them there- we should back them up.

        The media constantly hits us hard- everyday- all the time! So when we see pieces like this one come out and say the very same thing as John McCain- who is THE biggest RINO in DC today- it makes my blood boil!

        Whether Cruz proves to be right or wrong will be seen- but this is the play he was hired to do- and those that do not stand with him- as they were elected to do- should be ashamed of themselves right now- they are cowards! And if the conservative media cannot seem to support him- I would rather them just shut up than agree with the left. There’s too much at stake right now.

        Bernie outed himself in this piece and we all know it now…

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Ridiculous.

          Recognizing that Cruz is pursuing a tactic that has no possible outcome other than failure (and ultimately lessening the chances of Obamacare being dismantled) doesn’t make someone a liberal.

          That would be like saying that unless a spectator at a football game leaves the bleachers, runs across the field, and tackles a player on the opposing team, he must want the home team to lose… Because only a “real” fan would try and stop the “away” team at ANY cost, right?

  • msgmak

    Totally disagree bernie. I’m not all for the “suicide mission” you point out but looking at the status quo, the new conservatives at least show their constituents that they don’t talk out of both sides of their mouths. What issue can you point to over the last 5 years that the Republicans have won? In my conservative mind there have been exactly zero, none, nada. I hope you don’t think they have even a shot at 2016 with the GOP leadership they have now. Here in AZ all I can say is we feel we have no representative looking out for us even though he is supposedly on our side. Should have retired 10 years ago. At least Cruz and Paul provide conservatives some sense of representation even though it is significantly skewed by the media as you readily admit.

    • sinz54

      ” What issue can you point to over the last 5 years that the Republicans have won?”

      In the 2011 budget deal with Boehner, Obama agreed to extending ALL the Bush tax cuts. (And the left-wing of Obama’s party went ballistic over that.)

      You forgot about that?

      Be reasonable. The Dems control the White House and the Senate. How many battles do you think the GOP can win under those circumstances that don’t involve budgets?

      • alegalcitizen

        That lasted exactly ONE year!

  • NebraskaTPP

    Bernie also forget something else. Cruz was elected by the efforts of the Tea Party and that conservative majority who has those same conservative beliefs. How could he abandon their lobbying him on these issues. Look at how Rubio became almost a traitor in the eyes of the conservative majority who elected him. It is called Loyality and proof that everyone who goes to DC is not compromised by the ‘ruling elite’ within the Establishment GOP. We just experienced something like that with our Senator. Since he is not seeking re-election…he, we just learned, voted against Sen. Cruz. If Sen. Johanns ever tries to run for anything in Nebraska again, the Tea Party’s will defeat him like we defeated others and elected the only Conservative to the US Senate this last general election.

  • Harish Gopalakrishna

    This is the typical thinking among beltway commentators who see everything in the prism of who wins politically. Republicans will be blamed eventually because the media is going to side with Obama. Isn’t that case for everything that he does. If you don’t follow the orders of Obama on immigration then Hispanics will not vote for you. If you don’t vote for gun-control then the country will vote you out as 90% are in favor of something needs to be done. The media says so. So why even challenge anything at all. Go along with his policies. You are having an entire young generation of kids from college do not get a job because of his policies and you worry about the zealots. Has there been a bigger zealots in the country than the president or the majority leader who said at the end of it it is a waste of time? What zealots? You have Pelosi who was a speaker, do not know or care the difference between declaration of independence and constitution. They aren’t zealots. It is people who espouses limited govt and free-enterprise are the zealots.
    Problem if you had followed C-Span coverage alone, you realize the enormous challenge we have with Obamacare that is systematically destroying the health care sector in the country. You need to bring in awareness to the majority of the people why this law is so detrimental in every way you look at, and you have to do it right now. What is the guarantee that 2014 or even 2016 is winnable for republicans. So you want people to just accept it even though it is causing many people to lose their insurance. Also worrisome is the systematic dismantling of such an important economic engine and eventually overtaken by the govt.

    • NebraskaTPP

      Wow Harish… very accurate. It looks like Bernie is in the minority with this position.

  • lemonfemale

    The resistance in Warsaw couldn’t win either. I will leave you with that.

  • Nicholas344

    Bernie, you don’t appreciate men which is why you cannot appreciate Ted Cruz

    “When a man joins a political party, he submissively adopts a mental attitude which he will express later on with words such as, ‘As a monarchist, as a Socialist, I think that …’ It is so comfortable! It amounts to having no thoughts at all. Nothing is more comfortable than not having to think.” Simone Weil”
    Ted Cruz is a man first and a politician second. As a man who understands the values and principles America was founded upon he allows others to think and feel “worth.” He is a man first and a politician second. You support those who are politicians first and men second. I’m glad I’m not limited in the way you are.

  • NebraskaTPP

    Amazing how pundits like Goldberg have the ability to forget. We were bascially in this same position in sept. 1995. Conservative GOP members were the ones that forced the three week gov. shutdown. Forcing Clinton and the dems to select a GOP plan to balance the budget within six years. IN fact it only took four and led to a Republican taking the presidency again.

  • Gandalf

    The first two sentences of this article tell the tale, Bernie. When Bolling takes a stand, Conservative, you take the opposite stand. That would be Liberal! You wrote it. Now, live with it. As far as Cruz goes, he and his friends are laying the groundwork for 2016. The hidden message is, “Wake up Americans!” When the people begin to listen, it will be interesting to see which Senators and Congressmen will be victims of the broom. Knocking Bolling may indicate trouble in Paradise. Could Bolling’s popularity and ability to host several popular shows be creating a problem? Is Bolling becoming a threat? Only Bernie knows! Well, maybe his buddy Bill too. With all the hot topics floating around, this is what Bernie writes about as a lead story?

  • Ted Crawford

    In the first case, though I do respect, so far, Mr. Cruz, he will be no more ready to be President in 2016 than was Obama in 2008, or 2012 for that matter! I’m also still smarting at the fact that the quisling Christie completely took me in and the naivety of Kelly Ayotte, and Marco Rubio with respect to S-744!
    That being said, and as expressed, this maneuver by Cruz could easily go awry, I’m simply fed up with John Boehner! In these past three years he’s laid down more than a Professional Lady on Discount Day!
    If not now, WHEN? If not us, WHO? Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes! We, America, cannot survive, entact, three more years of Obama’s assult and Boehners timidity!

  • Chet Przygoda

    Bernie, I beg to differ with you. The only really conservative elected to office was not Ronnie. In fact if measured by today’s standards one would have to include the likes of JFK into the mix if you want to measure conservatives in office. What the Republicans don’t seem to get is that there is a movement in this country that is growing stronger and stronger with each passing day of watching and listing to our pols and pundits telling us that we simply do not understand what is good for us and we better listen to them or the world will end. Americans, probably with the exception of those on the payroll of government, have had enough of the “benefits” of those from both parties who would continue to grow our government for their own political needs. Obamacare, whatever the hell it is since no one seems to understand it anyhow, is just one of the reasons that we may very well be looking at a true physical rebellion in our streets if the government doesn’t pull back from its ever growing socialist ways. You may laugh when the term rebellion is used but if those in DC were to, without fan fare, stop into the corner diners, bars, and social clubs across the American landscape they would be very surprised to hear normal everyday non-radical middle of the road folks using the term and questioning if this might be the only option left for them and their children’s future. So cast your aspersions against the likes of the Cruz’s of this world at your own risk.

  • http://unseenmoon.wordpress.com/ Felipe Zapata

    It’s good to say no to bad things.

    • NebraskaTPP

      Felipe, your short, but impactive reply is something we must all strive for. Well done.

  • Patti M

    Ted Cruz did the right thing. It may not change a thing, but he stood up for what his constituents wanted and that makes a huge difference to how he is viewed, especially by younger voters. It only takes one hand to count the number of politicians who go to DC and actually do what they promise during their campaigns. Cruz is one of a very rare breed.

  • SkyCitizen

    Bernie is probably right. The promises attributed to the Obamacare legislation were grand and because Congress was too lazy to read it the truth was slow to be revealed. Everyone who has thrown in the towel would be wise to look forward to the next expansion of Government control and be prepared to kill it in the crib. Senator Cruz’s best points were made in at around 3 am referencing political favoritism and the dissipation of freedom. I salute Ted Cruz for his effort and commitment but one only has look at Google’s zeitgeist to see a citizenry that doesn’t really deserve a champion.

    • WhiteHunter

      Good points, Josh. But here’s the thing: Remember the criminally insane Nancy Pelosi’s sneer that “we need to pass it to find out what’s in it”?
      Well, now we DO know what’s in it, and yet “ooh, nooooo, it’s the law of the land, and we can’t POSSIBLY amend, much less defund or repeal, it.”
      That’s one very big problem. Obama and the Obammunists are literally totalitarians. When they demand “compromise” and “common ground,” those are merely Orwellian code words for “complete and unconditional surrender to all of our demands.”
      He’s eager to talk with, and make every concession to, terrorist dictators. But slams the door in the face of congressional Republicans, then slanders them. For the first time, we have a president who is not only a baldfaced liar, but who arguably hates America and wants to bring the country to its knees.

      • Saigon1975

        Going back 40 years I have lived or worked in six (6) Communist countries. Yes, really.

        You have an excellent understanding of their tactics.

  • WhiteHunter

    Ah, now I see the solution, Bernie: Republicans need to simply copy-and-paste the Obama/Reid/Pelosi/DNC platform onto their own, and then they’ll…well, they won’t win any elections, of course, since Democrats, like Communists and atheists (which most of them are, anyway) are 100% loyal to their own party, no matter what, and fanatically so when their candidate is a rapist or an America-hating Marxist.
    So the RINO Republicrats won’t pick up a single Damnocrat vote. But at least they’ll prove how “moderate” they are, and there’s honor in such a resounding defeat. Isn’t that the whole point?
    The Damnocrats feel free to bald-facedly lie about us and slander us all the time: Rember “Bush is Hitler”? “Republicans are racists who steal food from the mouths of starving African American babies and give it to Halliburton”? Maybe we should start using the same vocabulary against them, and pointing them out as Liars and Traitors who want America destroyed and have already made great progress toward that goal. At least it would be true.
    We need to call a spade a spade, wrap the Damnocrats’ America-destroying policies around their necks, and strangle them with them. Not wear them as a scarf around our own.

    • Saigon1975

      As an American who happens to speak Russian and who has studied Marxism-Leninism, allow me to offer the original name for the propaganda techniques the Demokrats use.

      It is agitatsia i propaganda or “agitprop.”

      Here in America, one of the most effective teachers of these tactics was Saul Alinsky, who “educated” Barack Obama.

      • Guest from CA

        Sure..let the GOP just be speedbumps and get run over by
        Obama, the liberals , the Obama I Don’t Care Act and the
        lame stream media.
        And while we are at it, let’s throw Eric Bolling and Ted Cruz
        under the bus for good measure. Oy, vey!
        Throw your principals to the wind and light a doobie?
        Good thing America had never had to fight a ground war here.
        We would all stay home and let the enemy kill us.
        After all, he who has the most power will win? If that were so,
        this would be a Nazi country today.
        To win a war you attack the enemy, not your own valiant
        soldiers. Seems obvious to me. But a lesson the GOP never has learned.

        If Pelosi beheaded someone in public, the Democrats would
        never turn her in. They have one invaluable asset the GOP is
        lacking…Loyalty to each other. That is so very sad! This vicious
        backstabbing of fellow GOP ers must bring joy to the hearts of
        the Democrats!

      • Vivian

        Wow, that is were Barry got it…
        Sad…
        Thank you for the education…
        Regards,
        Vivian

    • Vivian

      Dear WhiteHunter,
      Another excellent analysis…
      Thank you,
      Vivian

  • Jenn

    Obama needs to go..

  • Tuffy Butler

    Hey Bernie, you can’t win if you are not in game. You are defeated if you think you have no chance of winning and ultimately don’t try. Considering how well the establishment repugnican’ts (senator outhouse mc-cainkilledabel and others) strategies have benefitted the people and not just themselves, it’s refreshing to have a voice that listens and acts on the voice of his constituents. Cruz and handful of others are true Patriots in the fullest sense. However, there are those people that cling to the past and do the same things expecting the same results (definition of?) only to continue their downward spiral. We need more legislators with a pair to stand up to both sides of the corrupt aisles. Wake up Bernie – these times- they are a changing.

    • sinz54

      Even the best poker players know when to fold.

      The Cruz-loving segment of the GOP doesn’t know anything about tactics or strategy. And they don’t realize that as the minority party in America, they have to husband their resources and pick their targets.

      They actually think that “Don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes” is appeasement.

      The only tactic they know is to fight, fight, fight on everything, every issue, everywhere, spraying bullets in every direction in hopes of hitting something.

  • golfmax13

    Couldn’t agree less with you Bernie. It needed to be done, regardless of the outcome. You’ll understand this more in the next two elections.

  • LAPhil

    Bernie, I’m really losing respect for you. I used to think you were a good voice of conservatism, but lately you don’t just sound like a RINO, you sound like a liberal.

    • Eric Lennert

      Uh because that is what he says he is !! Chris McTingles Hardball ripped the Clintons all the time & now he Blows Bammy

  • abc2xyz

    Bernie ….. what a chameleon you are .

  • Vivian

    Remember: ( “Bull Moose”) …

  • gbandy

    I am not so sure if the Cruz plan is so bad. Now how many in Congress made campaign promises to defund Obamacare? Both GOP and Dems? Now this could be a very crafty move if in 2014 the knowledge that someone promised but did not deliver on past campaign promises. I just know that Obamacare is becoming increasingly unpopular and the GOP is missing a real opportunity to shove it back down the Democrats throats by this failing attempt of Cruz. However this would be a good time to get a 1 year stall on the mandate and plan a real attack on the bill in 2014.

  • Beretta

    More wishy washy avoid challenging the president, his party and his press BS. I don’t have to read Bernie to hear this crap–it’s everywhwere. Sorry Bernie some of us are fed up and tired of rolling over and getting it anyway.

    • DonaldYoungsRevenge

      Bernie has the same DNA as Bill O’Reilly. Bernie is a recovering libtard and Bill has never had a backbone to stand up to Barack Hussein Obama. He is always hoping to land an Hussein Obama interview and thus will never step up and declare this President incompetent.

  • Mr. Common Sense

    I agree. Eric Bolling was speaking about this article yesterday on The Five, and sorry Eric, Bernie is on the money with this one. Mr. Cruz needs to learn a few things if he does indeed try to run for President in 2016 (as does Rand Paul).

    • Patrick H.

      And you Mr. Common Sense need to gain more sense, do you really believe that even if this bill gets past the Senate (which it wouldn’t and I don’t think Harry Reid would even consider it), that President Obama would go “Gee, I’ll sign the bill that defunds my landmark law.”? I think you have a better chance of winning the lottery than President Obama doing that.

      • Mr. Common Sense

        How did you come to that conclusion from what I said? I said Bernie is absolutely correct. People like Cruz or Paul are not going to be able to get defunding of Obamacare done. It is a foolish move. Obama will never give in on this issue. Even if it means shutting down the government…. and the Republicans will take all the blame. So in other words, I agree with you.

    • DonaldYoungsRevenge

      Cruz, Rubio and Jindal are not “natural born Citizens” and the left wing birthers will take him to the shed on that issue. Yea the Republicans punked out by not challenging Barack Hussein Obama back when the liberal birthers challenged John McCain. Hussein Obama would have never been able to produce a legitimate birth certificate at that time. Since that time he produced a computer generated PDF document that has been proven over and over again to be a forgery. Not only is Hussein Obama not a “natural born Citizen” he is now a fraud and a criminal as a result of that computer generated document. It can also be proven that he fraudulently registered with the Selective Service in 2008. The man should be in prison.

  • Sam

    Keep it up Bernie, common sense is a rarity these days.

    • Mr. Common Sense

      Your comment about common sense is 100% right!

      • DonaldYoungsRevenge

        When is Bernie going to do a cover article about the never compromising Democrat Black Caucus or the Democrat Progressive Caucus or the Democrat Hispanic Caucus or the Democrat Socialist Caucus? Maybe Bernie is still a libtard at heart.

  • Man in the middle

    While I don’t agree with what the true conservatives approach to a solution for our problems, what does bother me I that far right wingers are believed to be bad and far left wingers are believed to be good! Why can’t both philosophy’s meet in the middle by both becoming MORE middle of the road in their philosophy’s ?

    • sniper2535

      Any time the right and the left meet in the middle’ or “agree” they are agreeing to take your money.

  • hillery70

    I agree with you Bernie. And I am seldom wrong.

    If I wanted to attack President Obama, it would be his foreign policy. His McCain “Hair-Shirt” policy in Afghanistan has cost the military 72% of it casualties and loss of limb. The monetary cost has been $8B per month.

    He advocated for the ouster of Mubarek. How is Egypt doing?

    He spent military resources taking out Gadaffi. Libya is run by militias and its oil sales are so low the country cannot support its people. Militias from Libya were part of the attacks in Malia.

    Throw in drone attacks on US citizens, drone attacks on Yemen and Somalia.

    MENA is on fire.

    The Rs are silent on Obama’s disastrous foreign policy. Of course, McCain, Graham, Corker, P.King are the voice of “Hair-shirt” foreign policy Whacko-Bird Republicans. They also get too much face-time on T.V. I think the media love them because they take the attention from Obama’s war-mongering.

    • DonaldYoungsRevenge

      For the sake of our economy, the Obamacare needs to stop now, not later, not die under its own weight. Our fragile economy cannot survive this massive cesspool.

  • whitedogfly

    Really Bernie? Does it matter whether Cruz is committing political suicide? Are you one of those groups that Cruz and Lee spoke about that will unaffected by Obamacare? Based on what you said, nothing makes any difference. It appears as though you believe there is no effective strategy for stopping Obama & Obamacare. Your advice is shut up and deal with it then? When millions of Americans from every realm of political philosophy experience oppressive Obamacare personally, there will be massive unemployment, refusal to be forced to submit to HHS and Obamacare, IRS fines/imprisonment. Those who can flee the U.S. will do so. The rest will either be elite or servants. There will be only one media voice because the United States will cease to be a democracy.
    Do you understand how irritating it is to us for you to write your column like a college football commentator that obviously favors one team over another and continually comments negatively? Americans are fighting for their lives. They are fighting against the very people they elected to represent them against governmental oppression. And all you can do is trivialize the situation and actions of those attempting to do something about it?

    • Saigon1975

      Right, and write on! Excellent post.

    • Oliver

      Very good point. I wonder how many of these Cruz critics will personally be impacted by this horrendous law? Probably none of them, or they’re wealthy enough to take the hit.

  • delble

    All I’m feeling right now is sincere admiration for Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and Mike Lee. If this is committing suicide, then they are brave, Navy Seal-like people willing to sacrifice themselves for love of country and their constituents..
    They are very different than the narcissistic little man, Obama.

    • sinz54

      Cruz is not like a Navy Seal.
      We don’t teach our Navy men to be a suicide squad.

      He’s like a Japanese Kamikaze.

      And so are you.

      What you want is the political equivalent of a banzai charge.

      • delble

        You are wrong. Cruz won an emotional, courageous, intrinsic victory and stood for the people he represents. They will Not forget. Obama is puny in comparison.

  • Ed I

    The reality is that after decades of Democratic Leadership in Washington our country is on a unsustainable course with an every expanding and authoritative federal government. AH, but you say the Republicans were in the White House, they ran Congress for a decade and a half, so how can I say Democrats ran D.C. First contrary to what you have been told Congress and the federal bureaucracy run the Federal Government. The federal bureaucracies are overwhelmingly Democratic and almost totally liberal if not leftists. From the end of WWII Democrats have controlled the House and Senate far more often than Republicans, 75% of the time. Even when Republicans held majorities, their majorities were so slim they could do nothing, especially the Senate, without compromising with the Democratic Leadership. Many blame Bush for a lot of things, so do I. Yet the Democrats took over control of both Houses in 2007. They are responsible for the housing debacle, the bail outs, the ignorant energy policy, the bizarre environmental policy, and a tax system that gets larger and more complicated each day. In 2008 we had a perfect storm. Democrats not only took overwhelming majorities in both houses where they did not have to even consider Republicans votes but they also gave us the most inexperienced, most liberal President in history, Our founding fathers would not be surprised. They feared just what has happened. Even if every Republican stood on principle as Cruz, Rubio, and others are doing and they retake the Senate and keep the House, it will take a decade or longer, assuming Hillary is not the President, to fix all the mess. The Democrats want to throw out the Bill of Rights, they already ignore the Constitution, transform America into a Left bastion of socialism or to leave the country in such terrible shape that something else will happen. Regardless we must start now to fix it, if not you and your children will not recognize the USA a decade from now. The fight will be tough since we face ever more bold foreign enemies.

    • Lc Goodfellow

      Record of Congress:
      1977: Jimmy Carter (D) signs the Community Reinvestment Act, guaranteeing home loans to low-income families.
      1999: Bill Clinton (D) puts the CRA on steroids, pushing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase the number of sub-prime loans.
      2003: The White House calls Fannie and Freddie “a systemic risk.” The Bush administration pushes Congress to enact new regulations. Bush warned them 17 TIMES.
      2003: Barney Frank (D-MA) says F&F are “not in a crisis.” He bashes Republicans for crying wolf and calls F&F “financially sound.” Democrats block the Republican-sponsored regulation legislation.
      2005: Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan voices a warning over F&F accounting. “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.”
      2005: Sen. Charles Schumer, (D-NY) says “…I think Fannie and Freddie over the years have done an incredibly good job and are an intrinsic part of making America the best-housed people in the world …if you look over the last 20 or whatever years, they’ve done a very, very good job.”
      2006: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) again calls for reform. “For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac … and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the marketplace … the GSE’s (government sponsored enterprises) need to be reformed without delay.”
      2006: Democrats again block reform legislation.
      2008: Housing market collapses; Democrats blame the Republicans.

  • Oliver

    Here’s what “accepting reality” has gotten us, Bernie:

    – Lois Lerner, now retired & collecting a fat gov’t pension for life instead of the jail term she deserves
    – Hillary Clinton, accessory to the murder of 4 in Benghazi, now the frontrunner for 2016
    – Eric Holder, accessory to the murder of dozens of Mexicans, safely ensconced in his DC ivory tower
    I could go on for pages.

    Ted Cruz is standing on principle. He knows, and we know, his chances of changing the inevitable are pretty much ZIP. But at some point, you just have to take a stand – and this is one of those times, because the very SOUL of America is at stake.

    • Jen

      Wow! I agree with all of these posts. Bernie you are blowing it big time.
      Your comment about Ronald Regan being the only conservative to win in 80 years. What other Conservative, TRUE CONSERVATIVE has been nominated besides him?

      Now you sound like a true liberal calling the Republicans “Spoiled Brats” and your favorite word “Zealots that won’t change course no matter what” What are you talking about??? How about passing Obama care illegally no matter what the American citizens want. How about abortion and gay marriage NO MATTER WHAT AMERICANS want!@!!!@$#@$

      I find I disagree with you more and more. I might as well be reading CNN posts.

      • Oliver

        The fact that Bernie and other GOP establishment cheerleaders call someone who stands on principle a “zealot” speaks volumes.

        • Josh

          I can only speak for myself here, but I think that “principle” word is awfully subjective in this context.

          What’s the principle? No Obamacare? No more government? No more Democratic legislation?

          For the “zealot”: If I had to guess, some of us view Cruz the same way we view the leftist wannabe totalitarians who believe the entire nation has to stand still until their ideology, and only their ideology, has its way.

          Some of us also view this as an easier way out than actually fixing problems. (Like the left raising minimum wage rather than working on decreasing the cost of living.) Whip up partisan support, refuse to grant the President a win in any capacity, and avoid actually putting any solutions forth.

          Some of us have this harebrained idea that maybe, just maybe, tweaking provisions inside of the legislation is a less messy, less costly fight than completely trying to shut it down.

          For me, inserting “principle” into “democracy” inherently means one must compromise and develop a new, morphed principle that benefits the whole and not just the inclination of the individual.

          That goes for the President and his ilk, too; the difference, though, as Bernie stated, is basically that POTUS has the big-stick mic and the support and thus equal stubbornness will be viewed disproportionately. So while it might feel good to be so “principled,” America’s future is not Cruz’s to offer up to the left because his principles demand a one-way approach to governance.

          That, to me, earns him the label of “zealot.” Selfish to boot.

          • Oliver

            You are entitled to your opinion of course, but for me, Obamacare is much more than a Bill, it’s a way to redistribute wealth and a stepping stone to single-payer fully socialized medicine. This is the fundamental transformation of America to a Socialist State that Obama promised. I don’t think “tweaking the bill” will do much to stop that. And THAT is why Cruz is speaking out. How sad for you that you missed the whole point.

          • Josh

            I suppose it’s sad for me when you take the stance that we’re suddenly socialist with a messy piece of incoherent, hurtful legislation.

            I don’t personally subscribe to all the cliches like the camel’s nose under the tent, Hannibal at the gates, etc. I do see this bill as a piece of garbage that should be replaced with more streamlined measures which rely far less on government’s involvement. By that very same token, though, I can’t rightly claim it to be some socialist masterwork that will fundamentally transform America if implemented.

            That’s like people who claim George W. Bush is painfully ignorant, blisteringly stupid, yet masterminded the 911 plot. The two don’t gel.

            I see Obamacare as the left’s attempt to make it appear as if they’re attempting to do something for all Americans, when all they’re really doing is attempting to kill privatized medicine while ensuring friends of liberals keep Cadillac plans.

            That being said, I personally see the better, more winnable fight coming by way of allowing the public to witness how bad it is while simultaneously undercutting the administration’s talking point that Republicans are obstructionists.

            There’s a great opportunity here for Republicans to, for once, act savvy politically instead of boorish and obstinate. They have two options, the way I see it, and at the risk of creating a false dichotomy: 1) Either do as Cruz is doing and retain only fringe support forever, eventually becoming the next Santorum; 2) Let Obama own the failure(s!), take away his capital, and transform the “D” in Democrat to the proverbial scarlet letter, which will hurt them in the House, Senate, and kneecap Hillary in ’16.

            We don’t need martyrs. We need problem-solvers. We need people with foresight for the long game, not the immediate checkers move.

            This isn’t the glorious, historical fight a lot of people want it to be. It’s just a piece of garbage bill that, like most government bills, will hurt folks.

            It doesn’t instantly change our stars and stripes into a hammer and sickle.

          • Saigon1975

            “It doesn’t instantly change our stars and stripes into a hammer and sickle.”

            You are right, Oliver, it won’t happen instantly but it will happen gradually over time.

            Are you aware of how Soviet Russia gained control of Eastern Europe in the aftermath of WWII? They used a tactic called “salami slicing.

            Their puppet governments and parties in countries like East Germany and Poland did not try to establish totalitarian controls all at once. (Not even Lenin did that after the Bolshevik Revolution Russia.)

            No, they took away freedom one slice at a time, and gradually established one-party rule.

            You might be wondering what this history lesson has to do with Obamacare and Ted Cruz.

            As a reporter over 40 years for several major news organizations, I have lived and worked in six Communist countries (East Germany, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Cuba, Nicaragua, & Russia.)

            I have watched creeping Communism (salami slicing) first hand.

            It is happening here. It won’t be old-fashioned, clumsy Marxism-Leninism. It will have a supposedly trendy name like “Lean Forward,” or “Progressive.” It will be much more sophisticated, and will use modern technology that old-fashioned Communists could only dream of.

            If Obamacare continues on pace, it will enable the government to gather huge amounts of data about us, right down to our illnesses and what medications we take, never mind 1/7th of the economy.

            Call me “over the top” or what you will. Never mind. I am old enough not to give a damn. I have been there, done that.

          • Josh

            Not that I’m attempting to pooh-pooh your comment here, but in all honesty, the new iPhone’s fingerprint scanner has a higher likelihood of collecting data for nefarious purposes than Obamacare.

            But I’ll play along and assume that we have wannabe commies in this nation in positions of power that want to implement total government rule.

            Their supposed way in is through an exceedingly confusing piece of legislation that was slapped together quickly and with much length by committee in order to force the issue.

            It can’t even act to its intended purpose in limited capacity.

            Yet it’s supposed to be this masterpiece of covert communism?

            As a nonbeliever in religion, an apolitical personality, and a 30-something on the downside of being considered amongst America’s youth yet not old, stuck in the middle, I couldn’t rightly say one view’s outlandish without calling many more the same. But I will say I simply cannot see the logic in the stance that the fox is in the henhouse, apparent to all while still covert, fumbles its way through and can’t do a damn thing correctly, yet has implemented this seamless backdoor to communism like Finch and his machine.

            It seems to me that these power-hungry politicians are just inept, not sinister.

          • Sheila Warner

            WOW! What a brilliant take down of the “commie” conspiracy theory. Can you debunk the birther myth, too? The one where President Obama’s family had the foresight to put his birth announcements in local papers so that many years hence, he could trick people and become POTUS? I love your logic.

          • Saigon1975

            Josh, Sheila…

            Thanks for the (mostly) snark-free putdown.

            Enjoy your lives in the New America.

          • Oliver

            Ah, therein lies our difference. You see what Cruz has done as a checker move, I see it as a man on a mission, Going for All the Marbles to stop the “Fundamental Transformation of America” into Obama’s socialist “fair share”, “share the wealth”, “common good” utopia.

            Have you listened, really listened, to Obama’s speeches? Have you studied the people who mentor and direct him? Have you read the “bible” of Community Organizers, Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals?

            Wow. Got any room left in that comfy little bubble of yours?

          • Josh

            Since America was made aware of communism, socialism, and every other “ism” that isn’t capitalism, there’s always been this fear that directly behind the weathered facade of a distressed flag, an army of men with chains lie in wait to shackle our freedoms while forcing us into serfdom.

            It’s hyperbole at its best, paranoia at its worst. But one thing it has never proven to be: True.

            As can plainly be deduced from my language, I’m not breaking balls here if people don’t agree with me. I’m not throwing them under the bus as blind or accusing them of living in some bubble. My argument is coherent enough that those ad hominem tidbits are pointless, as even if I were blind and surrounded by a bubble like an episode of Seinfeld, the truth remains the truth. That’s why it’s the truth.

            And here’s what the truth is. Republicans have been unable to reclaim the Senate for some time. If not for the original incarnation of the Tea Party–not its co-opted political arm now in its death throes–the House wouldn’t have been reclaimed in ’10. Yet despite an uproar of freedom-loving Americans, Obama was still able to win in 2012 — and not because Romney wasn’t conservative enough, but solely because that “R” carries with it a stain that bleach, ammonia and 409 can’t remove.

            The entire Republican brand is viewed by everyone even a fraction of a degree off of the right wing as too hellbent on their own version of totalitarian government to be taken seriously. It’s seen as little more than a collection of pigheaded madcaps who are all too willing, like their reviled leftist enemies, to shun anyone disagreeing even in the slightest fashion.

            And if that’s not the case, folks sure aren’t doing that image any justice with these many comments.

            Cruz and his ilk risk turning this stain from a little bit of spaghetti sauce on a white shirt to a blood-drenched scene from Dexter. The end result being Republicans actually losing ground in elections, not gaining it.

            So for you people who insist that today’s liberal Democrats want to usher in socialism, one might think that, given these facts, you would want to actually defeat your opponents politically, where it actually matters, and not simply work so tirelessly to force Obama to be a failed President.

            After all, if you think this many liberals are trying to turn America into Cuba or Europe, just wait until there are more of them in office and far fewer Republicans.

            There’s such a disdain for Obama carried proudly by hardened conservatives that you’re betting America’s future, good money on top of bad, that alienating everyone but pure conservatives will somehow turn the nation conservative.

            No. It’s going to give people a taste for moderates; and where they’re lacking due to being attacked by their own party, Democrats step in, pick up steam, and reclaim the House, dominate the Senate, and get the White House for another 8 years.

            Pretending that this particular fight is the historic battle of all time in America is little more than moths to a flame in the grand scheme of America’s future and its freedoms, which do not belong to us. We’re freedom’s guardians, but we aren’t its guardians if we throw our bodies on our swords for a hypothetical impact from legislation while allowing the writers of that legislation to continue on and past their current trajectory.

            As a political strategy, this is incredibly meager. It’s destructive. And that would explain why conservatives hold so few seats; fewer in years to come.

            Congratulations, you principled people.

            At least Obamacare wasn’t funded!

            I don’t want more government power and control in American life, and that’s why I don’t want Cruz and his ilk ushering in the next big wave of liberal Democrats.

            Politics is not religion. Forming a sect (read: cult) and treating arbitrary things like infallible scripture threatens the extinction of Republicans.

            Young people, racial minorities, the LGBT community and supporters, the non-religious, moderates, independents — they’re all fleeing. Do any of you ever stop to wonder why?

            You’re creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Say that the liberals are all trying to sell us over to socialism, and that anyone non-conservative must be liberal, and then chase everyone away until only liberals can claim office to institute their big-government measures.

            At some point, Republicans need more strategic minds to make gains. It’s not too late, but the clock is ticking.

      • sinz54

        “What other Conservative, TRUE CONSERVATIVE has been nominated besides him?”

        Barry Goldwater in 1964.

        And he lost in a huge landslide.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.cordell.108 Chris Cordell

    The Republicans may not like him, but we, the people, love him because he’s standing up for us and doing what he was sent to do. I agree that we need to let this albatross around the Dems neck. They own it. But it is quite refreshing to see someone actually stand up and take on the Dems. If more Republicans did this it wouldn’t be news. But it doesn’t happen. That’s why we’re fed up with John McCain, Lindsay Graham, et al. I’m tired of hearing about this is how the Senate works, blah, blah. Look around. The way it works is ruining our country. And no-one is EVER held accountable.

  • gconner

    Well, I use to like you Bernie…. but now that you have gone after Eric Boling and Ted Cruz I have changed my mind. You are leaning too much to the left for me! Ted Cruz is a hero to the conservative right…. you oldies seem to be jealous of Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul…. they are our future!

    • Josh

      Pointing out that a move may result in a stain on the right is “leaning too much to the left”?

      Far be it for me to set standards on what constitutes right or left-wing, but what I read from Bernie was a critique about the strategy looking at the long game.

      For you folks who do agree with and applaud Cruz, do you view politics and the nation’s future as a chess match or a game or checkers? I’m not trying to be condescending here, but to steal and paraphrase an old line from Dennis Miller, it seems like some folks just want to play checkers and jump an a$$hole rather than pursuing a checkmate.

      What is the long-term prognosis of the Republican ticket should the overwhelming majority of the world’s mainstream view anyone with an “R” as an obstructionist and a bitter child who stands against rather than standing for?

      I think what Bernie’s saying isn’t that Obamacare should become law or that conservatives should cower, but rather that picking this particular fight in this particular style is not a very intelligent move whatsoever for a political party that has been telling us for a long time that they want to bring solutions to the table.

      When obstructing the other party’s legislation becomes the former party’s “solution” to any problem, that strategy deserves to be questioned and examined. And drawing the conclusion that it’s not wise, not helpful, and not anything but the right’s version of the left’s our-way-or-the-highway type of politics does not make one left-leaning.

  • Andy

    Bernie: While I usually agree with you, I don’t here. I don’t think the Republican would lose a single vote over a government shutdown. They didn’t in 95 – they actually gained seats in Congress. And the election is well over a year away. Too much is going to happen between then and now. Very few people like Obamacare – even most liberals that I talk to – so Republicans in the Senate won’t get much backlash, if any, for jumping on Cruz’s ship. So there is no reason for the McCain’s and McConnell’s of the world to go “weak-kneed” by opposing a plan that is an unsustainable disaster.

    • sinz54

      In 1996, the GOP lost 3 seats in the House.

      But what’s more important is that the government shutdown wrecked Gingrich’s credibility. He lost his Speakership and that put an end to the reforms of the Contract with America.

      I remember those days well. We never heard about the Contract after the November 1996 elections.

      The GOP hung onto power a while longer. But the Gingrich revolution was over.

  • savage24

    Doing nothing to get along is what got the Republican Party into this mess. I find it amazing that not one Republican voted for ObamaCare in the first place , but a great share of them in the Senate are unwilling to vote for defunding it. The Democrats voted for ObamaCare and they own it, but doesn’t funding it also make it yours too? As for Sen. Tom Cruz taking his grievances on ObamaCare to TV to build a grassroots following, TV media is so bias he would get nowhere there. I wish Sen. Cruz well and support him in his quest. Like a modern day Diogenes, only he is looking for some honorable politicians.

  • rbblum

    To have the courage and conviction to stand on one’s values and ideals is the very foundation upon which our republic was created.

    Today’s ‘politics’ belong to progressives and those embracing crony capitalism as well as an unsound western financial system.

  • brickman

    This thread will be a battle between people thinking taking a stand is the point of politics vs. the people who think governing is the point of politics. As for me, I agree with Bernie. Cruz will accomplish nothing good except for his own fundraising.

    • gconner

      Ted Cruz is voicing the views of the vast majority of us true conservatives. I support him completely! He and others like him are the future of our country, if we are to have one after Obama!

      • brickman

        What you’re saying about America having no future was what liberals said during Nixon, Reagan and Bush. America is a big boy. It can shake off the actions of any president. This type of hyperbole is counter productive because it shows you don’t know what you’re about.

    • Oliver

      “taking a stand” is not the point; the point is the PRINCIPLE for which you are taking a stand. Big difference. One is a game, the other actually matters.
      Obamacare is the last nail in the coffin that Obama calls ‘the fundamental transformation of America’. Between IRS & NSA targeting and the perfection of Voter Fraud, there’s not a hope in hell the GOP will ever win another election. So anyone who says or thinks this is about winning the Senate in 2014 is DELUSIONAL.

      • brickman

        When republicans win as in 2010 it’s the voice of the American people expressing itself. When republicans lose as in 2012 it’s because of voter fraud. Give your paranoia a rest.

  • lark2

    Bernie, I hate to say this to you but, you are wrong! Elected politicians need to stand up for what they stand for … not what is politically expedient. The problem is with establishment “Republicans” who really only stand for … RE-ELECTION. The have always gone along to get along and their reward has been that they get to be a part of the Washington establishment. They stand for NOTHING. They have no leadership. They are disorganized and in disarray in terms of “policy” and they eat their own, just to stay in power. Consider what they did with Cristine O’Donnell in Delaware… they GAVE he seat to Democrat Chris Coons. They destroyed Sharon Angle in Nevada and put Harry Reid back in. They trashed Allen West and gave up his seat. It doesn’t matter whether the Republicans they killed were great candidates … the ONLY thing that mattered was that they were Republicans and could have altered the counts in the house and senate. Our REPUBLICAN friends only cared about themselves. These people ALL need to get out and John McCain, needs to be RECALLED! This party is going no where AND they are happy to attend the coronation of Mrs. Clinton … as long as they are invited guests!

    • DonaldYoungsRevenge

      You must remember that Bernie is still recovering from his liberal roots and that crap tends to remain part of the person’s DNA. Bernie has totally ignored and slandered many who have put their lives on hold to pursue the fraudulent and criminal behavior of this Fraud and Chief and Bernie constantly ignores their work and efforts. He is afraid of his own shadow and loves his gig at Fox too much to risk crossing their line of ignoring the Scandal of the Century, Obama’s fraud and criminal activity.

  • gurpsgm

    You’re argument that Reagan was the only conservative elected in 80 years misses the point that he was the only one that was able to get the support of the GOP leadership.

  • Dennis

    I just spent a few minutes going over some of the comments to this article and I responded to a few. If this is the attitude of ‘true Republicans’ then every one of you fools better start practicing pronouncing something: President Hillary Clinton. You will be as responsible for getting her elected as any of the nanny state ninnies on the left. Thanks a lot.

    • legal eagle

      “nanny state ninnies”? Did you make that up all by yourself?

  • smorkingapple

    Man this is great!!!!!

    You guys just love to eat your own!!

    *Grabs popcorn*

    BY the way folks, when we though Bush was ruining country, we were told to leave. How about yall take same approach ok?

  • sniper2535

    The media will blame the right anyway. Why not stand up and fight!? I think Ted and Co. are the last hope. The IRS successfully stifled the grass roots in 2012. Ted is righting the ship again.

    • legal eagle

      Ted is peeing in his pants…

      • sniper2535

        how long did it take for you to come up with that? go away

  • rgcomega

    And moderate Republicans have served us so well!! If our Founding Father’s felt this way Bernie, not to fight just because you might lose, we couldn’t be having this conversation because none of us would be “American” citizens. Is there no value to principles anymore? Enjoy your days to dissent publically Bernie, because the Democrats are looking for you. When you get the knock on the door, it will be too late to ask for help!

  • Dennis

    To all ‘true conservatives’, please stop deluding yourselves. In this, you are starting to sound like liberals by believing what you want rather than dealing with reality.
    I have come to the inescapable conclusion, and I believe it is clear and obvious, that Ted Cruz is about as phony as Barack Obama. Sure, he says all of the things ‘true Republicans’ want to hear but it is BS nonsense. The only thing this guy is out for is to promote Ted Cruz.
    It is time for Republicans to stop acting like pouting, petulant teenagers and go to the voters in 2014 with a better plan than Obamacare. Considering the cluster(blank) that is the ACA, how difficult could that be? The voters want something better, propose it to them! Plus, how much better off will the country be if the talking corpse, Harry Reid, is no longer Majority Leader, possibly the worst one of all time.

    Here is another sad truth that ‘true conservatives’ need to get their tiny little heads around. Not only was Reagan the only conservative elected but, by today’s standards he wasn’t all that conservative. Take an objective look at his record while on the job. Not only that but, Reagan did not get elected in 1980 because of his conservatism but despite it. Apparently ‘true conservatives’ have very short or no memories but have no interest in history.

    During the election of 1980, every poll in America right up to a day or two before election day had Jimmy Carter winning. Sorry, that’s correct, the worst, weakest president until Obama was going to beat Reagan. Then, at the very last minute, the Iran hostage crisis once again became hot news and Carter’s lead collapsed. At the very last minute, the voters went to the polls and decided Carter had to go. To Reagan’s credit, he had convinced the voters that he wasn’t really going to start a nuclear war his first day in office (liberal media propaganda) and he seemed okay. But, again, he did not win because of his conservatism.

    In 1984 he won because the country was doing a lot better and he, deservedly, got the credit. But, he certainly did not win because of his conservative credentials in ’80 or ’84. The only comparable conservative to run for the presidency since 1932 was Barry Goldwater. How did that work out?

    • sniper2535

      tiny little heads? get back in the tool shed sparky

    • whitedogfly

      If, for no other reason, Obama and his muslim brotherhood connection, need to go.

  • Jim Pell

    Bernie here dismisses Cruz as a rookie and a zealot, both cheap shots. Cruz’s sortie against the tides of government appears hopeless, but is a grand gesture. This is a time for champions, not continued mediocrity.

  • retsam369

    Bernie: I suppose that you also believe that if you get punched in the nose, that you should call a cop or a teacher or anyone else. Forget about hitting back that’s not nice. You’re feminine side is coming out in this article. With beliefs like these, I honestly believe that you’re part of the problem, surely you’re not offering a viable solution! Thank God you weren’t around to offer advice when this country was formed.

    • legal eagle

      Thanks for your homophobic comment….All bigots are welcomed in the conservative movement…

      • Jeff Webb

        Great, more projection.

  • Mollywashington

    I usually enjoy what you write, but not this one. Why snark at Eric Bolling, Ted Cruz, and those you say are “true blue conservatives”? You can disagree, but to put down those who are trying to call attention to the problems with Obamacare, and the downward spiral of our country, is unfair. Where are the more moderate politicians–they are not willing to compromise either, so let’s not just blame one side.

  • Peep

    Who is slobberin’ now? Most of the time, I like what Bernie has to say about the media. But, Bernie Goldberg lives in the most liberal place in the South. It’s where all of the big northeast libs go to live when they retire. The place is full of them. He’s got a lot of money. He probably has to live in one big lib city for his job but why his choice for the second place? The problem with northeastern liberal Republicans is that they don’t think they’re liberal. They think they’re moderates. I predict the next book won’t sell well.

  • pdxracefan

    Oh Bernard, puhlease.

  • Sambo Caesar

    Wrong again Bernie. True conservatives are weary of the get along to get along attitude of the old guard. It is refreshing to finally have a few with some chutzpa, gonads, a little fire. The days of the double standard for dems is over. They will finally own what they pass, and be held accountable.

  • Larry blaspheming liberalism

    Bernie, didn’t you write a book about “Crazies to the left of me, Wimps to the right of me”? Along comes someone who is not a wimp like McConnell, McCain, or Lindsey Graham, and you pillory him! Make up your mind!

    • rgcomega

      Gotcha Bernie

    • begbie

      Exactly.

  • Chris

    Anybody out there on Medicaid?…it stinks. Anybody out there on Medicare?…it also is abominable. Both pay doctors poorly and the private patients pick up the tab. Medicare billing is even outsourced by the government to private corporations because billing and payment was so atrocious. Have these government healthcare programs collapsed? No. Has there been any fight to repeal them? No. So I am not hanging my hat on this law…as bad as it is…being repealed by some Congress down the line. Once Americans live with it…they will live with it. They will take the extra taxes, they will find a new doctor, they will budget their way out of their private insurance nightmare. And they will do that because they have no recourse. Congress passed a really bad law, a VERY bad law…but Congress by and large won’t do anything about it because it’s not the strategy “that will win”. They don’t like the “end game”. Here is the end game….there will be government shutdown,. Not this week or this year. But there will be a government shutdown and it will be very painful and historians will cite Obamacare.

    • legal eagle

      According to you everything stinks? Another genius comment by an ignorant teabagger..

      • Jeff Webb

        Figures you could only muster a cheap little insult instead of a substantive response to any of his points.

        • legal eagle

          His point was Medicare “stinks”….I know lots of people on Medicare and I’ve never heard anyone say it stinks….
          Do you think Medicare “stinks”?
          You want an intelligent response to the statement “Medicare stinks”?

          • Jeff Webb

            There was a lot more to his comment than your oversimplification. Does your ability to read stop working after three seconds?

    • whitedogfly

      Let’s hope so. One would think Obama would receive citation about Benghazi, poor handling of Putin, the number of lies, etc.

    • sinz54

      Just out of curiosity,

      are you going to refuse Medicare payments in your old age?

      • Chris

        At the age of 65…all American citizens are required to accept Mediare. It is not a choice. I would if I could. My husband had an excellent medical plan with a union that he paid into his entire adult life. By law, that plan must take a back seat to Medicare. Keep that in mind when you hear folks fighting for retirement health benefits. They are almost useless – because contractually the doctor can only bill you what Medicare tells him he can for a specific service. So there is virtually nothing left over for a second insurance plant. He recently had chemo, 5 days a week at $2,000 per treatment. Medicare covered about $600 of that. His other insurance covered virtually nothing. It is my opinion that private insurance, if you have it, should pay first, and Medicare (the taxpayer) second. But that is not the Medicare law.

  • voters25

    Bernie you are living in the old days do think it is better to say nothing and just say that is the way it goes . Maybe you are rich enough to accept this there are so many people who are not so fortune I am not happy with everything the way it is but I don’t want to be in worth shape I praise Ted Cruz

  • Ed

    The problem I have with Bernie’s articles is, I believe in a lot of what he is saying, I just get incredibly sickened by where we DISAGREE, and it makes me wonder. Bernie is NOT conservative at all. He is not a man of God and he CERTAINLY is not the sort of person I would be able trust (if he were a family member or friend) watching my kids even while I step into a public restroom for even 2 minutes. That says a lot about a man. Bernie sells Books and trashes others for…well….selling books.

  • Mainline FL

    Thanks for your stand Bernie. While it’s refreshing to see someone trying to push the GOP into the future I’m afraid the fringe of the party will remain the squeaky wheel for the near future. I also find it ironic that Mr Cruz’ filibuster included his oration of “The Cat in the Hat” whose moral belies remaining non-judgemental until one has at least tried something. As an employer in the healthcare industry I can readily say we could not continue on the road we were traveling. What the loudmouths here don’t understand is that they were already paying for the uninsured, one way or another.

    • whitedogfly

      Mainline….who will pay for the millions of unemployed/under-employed Americans who will not pay for insurance coverage they did not seek and do not want and will only pay the IRS penalty initially? Who will pay for the massive prison systems needed to incarcerate all of those who will end up sacrificing themselves (prison) by refusing to pay the IRS because the have only enough to feed their family? And Obamacare is not simply about making all working Americans pay an extra $7k/yr as recently reported for Obamacare. We’re being forced to accept poor healthcare at a higher cost than most can afford. Obamacare is system designed for corruption by select friends of Obama. We are being forced to allow several government agencies to freely access every medical record without our approval or even notification that someone at SEIU is checking them out. Sebelius, HHS, and Obama’s European healthcare model fanclub freaks will use completely unethical and immoral determinants such as age, socio-economic status, race, political philosophy, residence location (urban vs rural) to “dole” out treatment.
      If the government would stop trying to interfere in our lives, if they’d stop trying to force us to do what they consider “best”, if they’d find some other group besides hard-working Americans to use as lab rats for their social experiments, if they’d stop encouraging dependency via all of their programs designed to keep us dependent on them like a crackhead junkie on their pimp, if they’d just allow free enterprise to work. Would all of us receive the cutting-edge treatment that some can afford? NO ! Those days are gone. There is no human right to exceptional healthcare treatment as most of us are about to experience. Would we complain? NO, because we were allowed to be responsible for ourselves. We were free to strive for the American dream un-encumbered by a massive, intrusive government. We would have the freedom to work hard (or not) and make choices (some good, some bad) but we will know that we controlled decision-making NOT someone in DC that is looking out for his/her healthcare industry employer or political buddy.
      Obviously you will receive excellent care no matter what Mainline FL. It is unlikely that you will be laid off or have your hours cut.
      However, it does appear likely that you will benefit richly at the expense of your fellow Americans in the coming years.
      I’d rather have Wall Street and the Unions screw us than healthcare industry vamps.
      In my mind, your opinions regarding this subject are worthless.

  • Tom

    I agree with Bernie 95% of the time, but not here. Ted Cruz is speaking the truth and that will be remembered when Obamacare “hits the fan”

  • Moonflyr

    Can’t believe you like playing the race card, too, Bernie! What a self-serving rationale for picking on Cruz! Disappointed in you and this article….who are you anyway?

  • Saigon1975

    Bernie,

    I have always admired your work and your own courage in standing up to Marxist propaganda techniques in the State Media.

    However, on this issue you are completely wrong. You are taking the establishment Republican view of “better safe than sorry.” Our Republic is sliding into soft Marxist Socialism. Soon we will not be able to recognize our country.

    Conservatives MUST STAND UP and “conserve” the Republic, NOW.

    Peter Collins

  • docww

    As a physician I am faced with the negative consequences of ObamaCare every day but I agree with you that this suicide mission will simply enhance the position of the liberals. How dumb can you get.

  • StillWatching2

    “Defund O’care or the idiot gets it”? How young is Joe Biden in that picture???

  • Wheels55

    Harsh dose of reality. I think it is true that the best strategy, at this point, is to let ObamaCare continue to disappoint the masses and fail. The door is already open to massive Federal government influence over health care – has been for a long time. Once people get more free stuff, the bleeding hearts will stupidly think that ObamaCare can’t go away without hurting this people. NEWS FLASH: We already have Medicaid. Just let existing conditions people have reasonably affordable healthcare and leave everyone else alone. At the most, just require catastrophic health care insurance – something truly affordable that we all can benefit from.

  • Roger

    Too many RINOs with followers like Bernie!

    • Dennis

      I am curious about something. Who appointed whom to determine who and what is a ‘true Republican’ and who is a RINO. That type of childish name calling is what libs do. Just who are you to call anyone else anything else? Your attitude is what gets people like Obama elected. Better to watch Rome burn than do something about it? Get over yourself.

      • Roger

        I use it in the context of Republican in name only because their attitudes are not concerned with the voice of their people. I’m watching Rome burn, but not because I like it.

  • Gregory Gargiso

    Disappointment Bernie

  • Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    I THANK BOLLING AND CRUZ FOR STANDING UP FOR US WHO DON’T WANT OBAMACARE.

    • Dennis

      Sorry, Ted Cruz is standing up for Ted Cruz and Ted Cruz only. Stop kidding yourself that he is going to get anything accomplished other than to guarantee Democr

      • Stephen Randall Malone

        Dennis..You must be a paid troll..Go to HuffPo where your Ilk hangs out…

  • Pton

    Shame on you.

  • Pton

    You and the other Republicans, that are cowering in the corner are such a disappointment. The feel good/sound good people continue to lie to us, and who give a rats butt if they have the media on their side! They have for 8+ years now. The fact that media bias is widely accepted as impossible to fight has become pathetic and discouraging.
    Now is the time to grow up and reinsert your damn spine and constantly YELL “Obama and the Democrats are lying to the American People!” Grab your self respect and your principal and either get on board or get out of the way. These men are trying to save the last shred of what make this country great.
    You and the rest of you sad examples of conservative leadership should be ashamed.

  • Geri Burkheimer

    Cruz is standing on principle – something we should applaud. For far too long Washington has operated in secrecy telling and showing the American people only what they want us to know or see. Bernie, you are wrong. Americans will back a man of principle – there are so few anymore.

    • Dennis

      Sorry, principle is a silly word. An emotional word that is empty and meaningless other than to say ‘I would rather let Obama and his ilk destroy the country than act rationally and do what I can to stop them even if it is not perfect.’ Please grow up and get over yourself. You are as much a part of the problem as Obama is and so is Ted Cruz.

    • legal eagle

      Cruz is standing on his considerable ego…

    • begbie

      I hope it’s not too late. Yeah, Bernie, we know this probably won’t change the vote. The point is CRUZ IS RIGHT. Principle always stands on it’s own. YOU are exactly what the Democrats need to burn us down.

  • aquaviva

    Pathetic.

    Too much Miami sun has baked Bernie’s brain.

  • mykm

    Bernie, you fight the good fight when your on with O’Reilly, but with this article you crumble cowardly to the left. Why have a party that stands for limited government, but then doesn’t when it actually matters!!? The fight is for defunding Obamacare, while still funding gov’t, This is a threshold program that we cannot let go through without a fight. What’s the point of Republican’s winning elections if their going to govern like Democrats?

  • Josh

    Wow. I see Bernie is catching hella flack for this. And I believe that’s kinda proving his point.

    The way I view these things is rather simple. Then again, I’m probably not smart enough to venture into the complex.

    If one is presented a choice of having everything they want while hurting others, or having to compromise for the good of everyone, the moral thing to do is to accept the latter. Demanding–because it’s never simply “accepting”–the former, by stomping one’s feet in a tantrum until wholly catered to, is the height of selfishness and inherently destructive on the worst possible level.

    Sadly, both parties have segments demanding the former. The Cruz-minded folks want to defund or bust, and the Obama-minded folks want it funded or bust.

    Neither side is willing to compromise. But with the majority of media, Hollywood, the Intelligentsia, and the majority of social-media-controlling youth on the side of Obama, the Republicans as a whole are going to take it without lube in a triple-X version of Groundhog Day where something the girth of Punxsutawney Phil will be making repeat entrance.

    Some folks might be more than willing to go down with this ship, particularly since it’s like watching Titanic from the couch and not actually being on the ship and having to choose. But the result of following through with this “I want” tantrum is going to be an entire party shut out of the next two elections in every seat that actually matters.

    It’s a much better move to start actually fixing the legislation than becoming a martyr for an overly stubborn minority that fights one-party rule with one-party rule.

  • Royalsfan67

    I loved and supported Mitt during the 2008 and 2012 elections. I do not have a litmus test for a candidate. (Held my nose and voted for McCain) but you are way off base on this one. You cannot abandon your principles just because the media will blame you. We have been bullied and cowed by the press for years and have a government that has grown exponentially for the past 3 decades. At some point you have to throw down the gauntlet and stand your ground. I cannot think of a more important fiscal issue than this one. Republicans will have to take the position of principle and if it blows up in their face then it does. But you have to do everything you can to get the message out instead of cowering and letting the liberal media set the tone of the debate. There are still enough free thinkers in this country that maybe they will finally get it.

    We have an issue that the Republicans are on the right side of the polls on. They are voting to fund government with the absence of an unpopular law. You have to have faith at some point that real Americans will understand this. If they cannot then the country is already lost.

  • Tony Coscione

    You do make a good point about how the POTUS will turn this around, via the media and Republicans will be to blame. We’ve seen that repeatedly with this Liberal controlled media.
    BUT…at some point, we have to stand up and NOT back down. At what point is that? Once the country is lost with no hopes of recovery?
    And tell me, what do YOU call a Republican, John McCain? In case you haven’t noticed, there seems to be a real and true awakening in this country, and people are pissed. They are pissed at the John McCains in the Republican party who have repeatedly sold out their constituents, time and time again.

    These self proclaimed “Leaders” no longer REPRESENT their constituents, which is what they are actually elected for. They are NOT our leaders, they are supposed to be our Representatives? When is the last time you actually saw that in Congress? Well, I can tell you…first time in a LONG time, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee….they are emerging and we need to continue to get rid of the John McCains!

    • Geri Burkheimer

      It is not about blame! It is about principle!

    • Dennis

      Democrats love to hear arguments such as yours because they, and especially the Chicago Con Man in the White House understand something that you and all of the other ‘feel good true conservatives’ clearly do not. The only thing that matters is winning elections and your way cannot do it. Stop deluding yourself!

      • Stephen Randall Malone

        Go Away Troll..

  • jimcham

    Mr Goldberg, respectfully you are out of line. I watch Eric because I agree with him. I also strongly support Cruz, Lee, Paul and any other Senator that get a backbone. Getting along has gotten us sheeple like McCain and Graham. When you hurl your insults towards Boliing, you are insulting me.

  • GailWehling

    Sorry Bern, but I am more with Bolling and I would love term limits. Cruz won’t win but he is making a very serious point. When you vote for something you have never read, it is sinful. You have vowed to represent your constituents. Don’t read and don’t represent. Term/Age limits might help Forced retirement at age 70. There is “No fool like and old fool.”

  • Mary Ann Sweeney

    Instead of battling back and forth, why don’t we all band together (Bernie Goldberg included) and
    insist that POTUS, Congress and the chosen corporations who are
    presently exempt from this shameful ‘care’ must participate along with the rest of us. It will self destruct, guaranteed.

  • No laying down

    I find it amusing that democrats and pro-amnesty RINOs find true conservatives such a threat to their business as usual universe. Bravo Cruz!

  • jamesben

    Bernie, Bernie, Bernie – you have committed CAREER SUICIDE. Take this website, you O’Reilly appearances and EVERYTHING YOU DO and STICK IT.

  • Scott Mohr

    Rove is Goldberg’s son from another RINO A$$hole.

  • michael1968

    OMIGOD If they shut down the government the entire planet will…go on about its business.

  • Ernesto Del Toro

    So Bernie, if I understand you correctly,, even though there’s a very slim chance that Ted Cruz and Mike Lee can do something to try to defund Obamacare, you think it’s better not trying at all. In that case, you must agree with Obama and the corrupt administration with not sending help to our guys in Benghazi when there was a chance to save them. Right.??? You don’t know if you can do something until you try it. People do win the Powerball with odds of like 400MM to 1, right.? Giving up and crying about it is worse than not trying at all even is is futile in the end. I have more respect for those guys trying than the other cowards not doing anything at all.

  • Flaggman

    Bernie Goldberg, I read your two books on media bias and they were two of my all-time favorites. And yet here you are, beating up on those who swim against the tide, while you pile on with the biased drumbeat against a guy who is doing his job, which is advocating on behalf of the American people. And most disappointing is your ridiculous comment that real conservatives are not popular because Reagan has been the only one. Bernie, you know as well as anyone, that Reagan had to battle his own party establishment for more than a decade to even get the nomination in the first place, and that the GOP establishment and media never stop until they get themselves a “moderate” on the ticket. In other words, America has only had one conservative President in the last 80 years because Reagan was a mistake. A mistake who became the most popular President of the past 80 years. Shame on you Bernie Goldberg for piling on to clearly disprovable nonsense, and for smearing good men.

  • Guest

    Wow, I never realized how defeatist Bernie Goldberg was until I read this commentary. I suspect he was rooting for George H.W. Bush in the 1980 primary race, and for Ford in 1976.

  • Jeff Bowling

    I am a Republican who was and is against Obamacare. I think it is bad law and bad policy. It is going to be a trainwreck. That said, as much as I think Obamacare should be defunded, the problem is the Republicans in the Senate do not have the votes to defund it. Even if the Senate were to vote to defund Obamacare, it would then go to President Obama who would VETO the house and senate bill to defund Obamacare. With that being the case, I believe that Obamacare will unfortunately stay for a while. What the Republicans need to do in 2014 is to try and win the Senate back and then in 2016 win the WH back.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Well said. I think what all of us righties agree on is that we want Obamacare decimated. This argument is over the tactic that is used. Cruz’s tactic can’t work. It just can’t. And if it’s followed through with, it could likely make the Republican party’s influence in Washington even worse, and THEN how likely will it be for Obamacare to be stripped apart?

      • JohnAdams

        It is fortunate that you, Bernie, and the other naysayers were not commanding our troops at Bastogne in December 1944. Instead of responding “Nuts” to the Germans you would likely have turned in your troops. After all, weren’t they told that their position was untenable?

        It is doubtful, people of your or the establishment Republican’s ilk, would have made the Delaware crossing with General Washington, either. Another untenable situation. I pity you all. Such weak, negative thinking will only help lead to the downfall of this once proud and mighty Republic. You may claim that you are only being realistic, but you are just deluding yourself and lying to others. At best, or to be polite, such thinking is weakness!

        Whether you think you can or can’t succeed, you are more likely to be right than wrong. Don’t volunteer to be a gelding. Man up! If you can’t, then quietly go to your hiding place and get yourself out of the way of those that will.

      • Mary Ann Sweeney

        Why isn’t anyone using this “tactic:”

        Instead of battling back and forth, why don’t we all band together an
        insist that POTUS, Congress and the chosen corporations who are
        presently exempt from this shameful ‘care’ must participate along with the rest of us. It will self destruct, guaranteed.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          One of many ideas that should be pursued.

        • Sheila Warner

          We are long overdue for the Constitutional amendment which would require that Congress lives under its own laws. This opt out has been going on for years. People are surprised that Congress is exempt from Obamacare? Don’t they understand basic civics, as well as American history? This is nothing new.

  • D Parri

    Bernard, I don’t know why I’m surprised at your comments, but…oh well, that’s the wonder of politics.

    Win, lose, or draw, most Americans who oppose OCare are perplexed at how this disastrous legislation could have actually come to fruition. In trying to sort it out, that same group of people do not understand how so many could have spoken out against it, but there has been very little action taken to undo the wrongs already committed by Congress.

    I, for one, am pleased to see someone, i.e., Ted Cruz, standing up and carrying the banner for those like-minded citizens who honestly realize that although this is a battle that might be won at a later day, it is still important to hear the voice cry out in the darkness of our current Congressional leadership.

    If Senator Cruz is alone now, then I fear that we who support him will be alone in the future.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      >>I, for one, am pleased to see someone, i.e., Ted Cruz, standing up and
      carrying the banner for those like-minded citizens who honestly realize
      that although this is a battle that might be won at a later day, it is
      still important to hear the voice cry out in the darkness of our current
      Congressional leadership.

      I don’t disagree with that at all, and my guess is that Bernie probably doesn’t either. But Ted’s defund tactic will unfortunately backfire on the Republican party, likely keep them from taking the Senate, and then we’ll be in an even worse position to start pulling Obamacare apart.

      • legal eagle

        You don’t know anything about Ted Cruz…He’s an arrogant son of a right wing nut job who still wears his Harvard ring to show off where he went to school….You don’t care what the issue is, you just need to come up with something to argue about…

        • Royalsfan67

          Oh and I guess you hang out with Ted on a regular basis and know him personally? Or did you get those little tidbits on the Huff and Puff post or the New York Times? They must be fact, they were printed in one of your bibles.

          Go back to your nice apartment in your mom’s basement and eat a donut and keep pretending you are smarter than everyone else to make you feel better about your pathetic life.

          Of course, that check Obama writes you every two weeks to troll message boards and spread propaganda pays the bills doesn’t it. At least you don’t have to be on food stamps.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Do you two go fishing on the weekends or something? Is that why you know him better than I do? And are you really criticizing him for wearing a school ring? lol.

          • legal eagle

            Do you know anyone who wears a school ring? He has a reputation as an arrogant ahole….a beloved trait among Conservatives…

          • Jeff Webb

            >>He has a reputation as an arrogant ahole….a beloved trait among Conservatives…<<

            Meanwhile, your beloved liberal president IS an arrogant ahole.

            Say, regarding that Harvard ring, I wonder if Obama's fear of people seeing his college records is an indication he's not as proud of his education as Senator Cruz.

      • Mary Ann Sweeney

        I’m part of the like-minded citizens who realize this battle won’t be won unless a much needed amendment to this already out-of-control mess is added: EVERYONE must participate – NO EXCEPTIONS – POTUS, Congress and the others who are getting a pass must not be exempted. All, or no one. This is a guarantee that it will self-destruct.

        I also take exception to Bernie Goldberg’s slur about people who don’t like Obama because he’s black. I don’t like him; never have; never will – not because he’s black, but because I believe he’s incompetent. I have a right to my opinion, last time I read the Bill of Rights.

  • Tanker74

    It would be great if he could succeed, but he can’t, and you’re attacking him for trying? What kind of logic is that, Bernie?

    • legal eagle

      He’s trying to do what? Get publicity so Fox News can stroke his ego?

      • Ernesto Del Toro

        he’s trying to do what men with balls do, fight for their rights. Not like the other cowards that just whine about it.

        • legal eagle

          Men with balls fight battles they cant win….Men with brains don’t…

          • jamesben

            You’re a SNIVELING pu$$y. It’s rather disgusting.

          • retsam369

            You’re right. But guys usually refer to those people as females or gays! If you don’t try, how do you know if you can win? Oh i’m sorry I thought I was talking to a guy!

  • Joseph Lepiscopo

    The GOP is being controlled by progressives now. Progressives are destructive whether they are red or blue. So even if the republicans do control office in 2016, do you really think that the economy is going to improve and that they are going to look after the people or further their own agenda? The current GOP leadership is turning into the French Republicans. I wouldn’t expect Bernie to understand since he’s a multi millionaire. While he may have worked hard for it, he’s been wealthy for too long that he became out of touch of reality and how his games of politics affects the ones that have to earn their wealth.

    • JohnAdams

      I agree about the infiltration of the GOP by the Progressives. Would suggest the added distinction that they are more like the Vichy French, i.e. collaborators than the Free French, who continued to fight the enemy.

  • Kathie Ampela

    Most of the people who decide general elections have no idea who Ted Cruz is, what he’s doing right now or are even aware that we now have socialized medicine in this country. They will vote based on 2 things: name recognition or how badly an incumbent’s policies are biting them in the ass. For the American Idol crowd, the party who is responsible for making their lives miserable with Obamacare is the party that will be voted out. It’s that simple. Ted Cruz will remain unknown outside conservtive circles. The average low information voter doesn’t care about liberal or conservative principles, they aren’t interested or engaged enough, I know many of these people, I know how they think. If the drivebys are comfortable in their easy chairs, they will vote name recognition (see Hillary), if not they’ll go for the other guy. Obamacare is a crap sandwich, the democrats knew it which is why it wasn’t implemented right away. They knew if they rammed it through in 2010 and then waited awhile, the drivebys would forget about it. They will try every stall tactic, every media misdirection tactic but in the end it will be unavoidable, there are too many problems and unintended consequences. The long knives will be out in the Democratic party and there will be nowhere to hide. Unfortunately for the progressive agenda, the founders put a system of checks and balances in place and it makes it very difficult to try ram through an agenda, perhaps such as a single payer system which is what I saw posted in a comment in this forum. The mid terms are a little over a year away, that’s not enough time.

    • legal eagle

      Ted Cruz’s base is Southern rednecks and right wing nut jobs…hardly a coalition that could win a national election…

      • D Parri

        Thanks, coming from a REAL nut job, you should be the man!

      • Rodney Lee Conover

        already with the name-calling.. good boy!!

        • legal eagle

          BTW…what is the Cruz health care plan? Im still waiting to hear it..

          • nomobama

            It is leaving it the way it is. Poor people are not turned down from hospitals. Stop trying to defend socialist type of healthcare.

          • Bob Hadley

            Do you even bother to think about what you’re saying???????
            We currently DO have socialist healthcare, precisely because poor people are not turned down by hospitals. And it’s the worst kind of socialist healthcare!
            Poor people use the ER all the time – both for primary care issues and for emergency care. And guess who pays their bills?? What do you call that if not socialist? DUH!!!

          • legal eagle

            Really? The poor are covered in most states (except Texas, where the Republicans don’t care if you die) it’s families who make over 50K who have a problem…Maybe you should do a little research?
            This is what demagogues like Cruz count on….People like yourself who have no idea about the facts …

          • Bob Hadley

            ER’s are disallowed from refusing treatment to anyone. You need to do some investigation or you need to read more carefully, or both. In Hawaii where there is an employer mandate (for anyone working 20 hours or more a week) and liberal access to medical insurance for the indigent, there are homeless people, for example, with NO health insurance ending up in the ER. There are a lot of poor people who are not covered, in absolute numbers anyway.
            Percentage-wise, the economic burden on ERs may well come mainly from those who are barely in the middleclass, but the actual number of poor being uninsured is high.
            A family of 5 that rakes in 50k or even 60k a year barely makes it, in Hawaii anyway. Hawaii is not much more expensive than some cities on the mainland.

          • Mary Ann Sweeney

            I know you will snipe at me, but who cares?! The truth is that the poor are covered with taxpayer money whether it is from a state or the federal government, and they predominately go to an ER, where the cost of care is the most expensive. There are very few physicians left who take Medicaid.

            Instead of battling back and forth, why don’t we all band together an insist that POTUS, Congress and the chosen corporations who are presently exempt from this shameful ‘care’ must participate along with the rest of us.

          • Royalsfan67

            If we are going to cover all pre-existing conditions then we may as well let people who have their house burn down wait until is a smoldering wreck before they insure it. Have you ever worked in the insurance industry or had an original thought? By insuring all pre-existing conditions you will triple health care costs right off the bat.

          • legal eagle

            Nonsense….high blood pressure is considered a PEC by mist health insurance companies….I am quite familiar with insurance companies and they pool their risk….
            You fall into the ignorance is bliss category…WAKE UP

          • legal eagle

            Screw those sick people….Let them die….Spoken like a true Republican…

          • legal eagle

            Do you ever have a thought that is not ideologically driven? How do you know what poor people do? Do you hang out at the ER and take surveys/

          • Bob Hadley

            I do research. I deal with stats. Got it?

          • Bob Hadley

            I haven’t said anything about ideology here. I just characterized the health care system as it now exists in this country. Those who scream about Obamacare being socialist are simply not thinking clearly. But not thinking clearly is not exclusive to opponents of Obamacare.

          • legal eagle

            You have no idea what the problem is in the system do you? It’s not the poor, it’s people who have pre-existing conditions and make too much to qualify for state assistance.

        • legal eagle

          Rodney…still waiting to hear from you about Cruz’s healthcare plan…

      • retsam369

        As I sit here looking at the pic you use for ID and the name you’re ID as, I sincerely think my above reply was correct! Except for the typo on msn. In case anyone doesn’t know who I was referring to, it that piece of crap called rachel madcow! (my spelling of her name)

        • legal eagle

          Bobby Kennedy looks like Rachel Maddow? Are you off your meds again?

    • legal eagle

      We have socialized medicine? Where? Stop watching Fox News and read something besides right wing propaganda…

      • retsam369

        Come on, you’re really that fem/guy from mns TV aren’t you!

        • legal eagle

          What’s MNS TV? Sounds like you a bit homophobic?

  • http://gamewhen.com/ Michael T

    While I do not necessarily disagree with Bernie about the possible consequences of a government shutdown, I think the real issue might be what happens in 2014 — as opposed to any negative hit the GOP takes now.

    Senator Cruz may be counting on ObamaCare, once fully implemented, will become a huge albatross around the neck of Democrats currently in the House and Senate running for reelection in 2014 — and for president in 2016.

    Cruz may very well be counting on a scenario which may, or may not, happen to use as political levearge against candidates who did not support de-funding of the ACA.

    Moreover, as Brit Hume and others have said this gives the Senator solid footing with the conservative base which might serve him well in Iowa and beyond in the 2016 GOP Primary.

    • legal eagle

      An albatross….just like Medicare…

  • BearNJ

    You have to take a stand and make the case to the people on where you stand. People lose battles but win wars. Cruz is right to make the case. The GOP has to stop listening to the Rove losers.

    • legal eagle

      Take a stand for what? Does Cruz have a healthcare alternative? Easy to be against something…takes no brains..

      • Jeff Webb

        Okay, we get it. You want to know what Sen. Cruz’s plan is. Does that mean you’d quit all the sniping and give it serious thought if/when he shares it?

        Did you buy Obama’s lie every time he said the GOP weren’t offering any ideas, when in reality they were being shut out?

    • legal eagle

      “People lose battles but win wars” What a wonderful cliché…

  • fryedgreen

    We can’t all just sit and be quiet….to me…perhaps should commit political
    suicide if that’s the basis of their election, the house and Senate are to full
    of career politicians, and to polluted with subterfuge and tit-for-tat ….

    • legal eagle

      Nice generalization….I think your brain is fried…

      • fryedgreen

        If you dont believe that these people.should do.what they are elected to, or that generalization is way too common,,maybe your a blind commie…a uselful idiot

  • Patrick H.

    Honestly, as much as I am not a fan of Obamacare or much of President Obama’s policies, I think it’s silly to think that a.) The Democrats will somehow magically want to defund a healthcare bill they supported and b.) Even if by some “once in a blue moon” chance, the Democrats do so, President Obama will definitely veto it and I don’t think there’ll be enough votes to override it.

    • legal eagle

      What healthcare plan are you a fan of?

  • ElvisWasAHero2Most

    Finally, some sanity.

    It’s safe to assume that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee, the GOP will need a candidate who can cross the aisle in order to appeal to the entire country. Obamacare has been passed by congress, defined as constitutional by the supreme court, and was a major issue in the 2012 presidential election.

    With regards to Obamacare, the GOP must concede defeat or continue to depict themselves as the “no compromise” party, which doesn’t win national elections.

    • carolinagirl101

      Actually, the Supreme Court did say that Obamacare was unconstitutional as written, and Justice Roberts rewrote the law to make it a TAX (to be enforced by the proven corrupt IRS). When you have people voting for Obama six times in states like Ohio & Florida (no voter ID required), it’s difficult to lose. And that tune Hillary sung “What difference does it make?” will be #1 on the charts come 2016.

      • Bob Hadley

        No, the majority of the SCOTUS did NOT rewrite Obamacare. The SCOTUS interpreted the penalty for not purchasing healthcare as tax. The SCOTUS did not change any of the actual language or substance of Obamacare
        BTW, The SCOTUS also ruled that it was unconstitutional for the feds to actually require states to accept into medicare anyone or any family earning 133% or less of the poverty level.

        • carolinagirl101

          You are blatantly wrong: “The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. “Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness.”

          • Bob Hadley

            Everything you just stated supports what I said: The majority opinion of the SCOTUS, which was written by CJ Roberts, INTERPRETED the ACA, it did not change the language of the ACA.
            Regardless of how anyone characterized the fee for not being insured under Obamacare, the SCOTUS interpreted it as a tax..
            The SCOTUS did not change the actual language of the ACA, it simply interpreted it. If the SCOTUS rewrote the ACA, the SCOTUS would have changed its language. To say this is, of course, absurd.

          • carolinagirl101

            You said “The SCOTUS did not change any of the actual language or “substance” of Obamacare.” Changing a “fee” to a TAX – one of the largest tax increases in history most definitely changed the “substance” of Obamacare or Obamatax. Had the fee originally been labeled a “tax,” it would have never passed Congress, even though it did pass in the middle of the night with no Republican support, and most of Congress having never even read the bill. It is a disaster similar to the IRS, Benghazi, NSA, Fast & Furious, etc. scandals and due to incompetent, inexperienced LACK of leadership from a former short-term senator who mostly voted Present. And also a president who had close ties to Frank Marshall Davis, a communist, Valarie Jarrett (an Iranian born Communist) who hired Van Jones, also a self-proclaimed communist and whose parents and grandparents were communists. Valerie’s father and Davis also had close ties. He wants to control the masses with national health care, have one class (tax the rich), divide and conquer and take away our guns. He even made the evil Putin look good.

          • Bob Hadley

            You need to think about this. The payment in the individual mandate required of those not having health insurance under Obamacare is exactly the same as it was before SCOTUS’ health care decision.
            The SCOTUS made it clear that something can be a fee or a penalty in one aspect and be a tax in another aspect. The SCOTUS made it clear that, for constitutional purposes, the payment is a tax.
            Again, the language of the ACA and the payment that is in the ACA’s individual mandate is exactly the same as before. Individuals without health insurance still make the same payment and the amount of that payment is still determined exactly the same as before.
            You can oppose the SCOTUS’ decision all you want. You can oppose Obamacare all you want. You can even focus your hate and anger at President Obama all you want. But, the facts remain that the SCOTUS decision did not change the function of Obamacare or the individual mandate one wit. The SCOTUS’ decision merely gave the individual mandate in Obamacare a constitutional thumbs up.
            AND BTW, the individual mandate WAS finally passed by Congress as a tax. That’s why they didn’t have to come up with a supermajority of 60 to pass it. Tax/budgetary matters aren’t subject to the filibuster.. It was prior to that, that the Democrats (or at least many of them) called it a fee.

          • carolinagirl101

            No, you need to think about THIS: You can lead a liberal to knowledge, but you can’t make them think! The first time Obamacare was revealed as a TAX is after Justice Roberts designated it as such: A TAX. Now small business are trying to cut back to less than 50 people and cutting back hours, creating more part-time employees, Numerous parts of this have been delayed, and there have been thousands of waivers to special interest until after the 2014 elections. In man cases insurance premiums are doubling or tripling. Employees are being dumped from their employer’s insurance. There is going to be a doctor shortage and decrease in quality care. Doctors are refusing to take Medicare patients. This bill doesn’t help the poor people who are willing to work. And my sons were motivated to get a job after college and get insurance prior to turning 26. Young people get so many handouts many are not even motivated to get a decent job. Each state should be able to decide what kind of coverage they provide like in Massachusetts in accordance with the Tenth Amendment. However, this monstrous bill was crammed down our throats and voted on with no Republican support. The Republicans knew it wouldn’t work and we could not afford it, already being $17 trillion in debt. Democrats think it is no big deal, just raise taxes on the rich, like they have in some European socialist countries – in France it’s not close to 50%. asing our debt.

          • carolinagirl101

            And I agree with Justice Kennedy: “The act is invalid in its entirety,” Kennedy said from the bench. He went on to say the administration went to “great lengths to structure the mandate as a penalty, not a tax” — challenging the majority’s rationale for upholding the mandate.

          • Bob Hadley

            You’re conflating opposition to Obamacare with the issue of the SCOTUS labeling the individual mandate in Obamacare a tax for constitutional purposes.
            Originally, you stated that the SCOTUS rewrote Obamacare. That’s what our back-and-forth is all about, not the actual merits (or lack thereof) of Obamacare. Now you’re trying to change the subject. I’m willing to discuss the merits of Obamacare in a different thread.
            The fact remains, the SCOTUS did NOT write or re-write the ACA or any part thereof. The SCOTUS did INTERPRET the individual mandate as a tax for constitutional purposes. As I said, you can oppose the SCOTUS’ decision all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that the SCOTUS merely interpreted the ACA.
            As I stated before, everything remained the same in Obamacare after the SCOTUS’ decision. There was no re-writing of the ACA, which by that time had already become law. The SCOTUS merely gave the ACA a constitutional thumbs up.
            As an aside, you wrongly claimed that the individual mandate in Obamacare was NOT passed (by Congress) as a tax. It WAS passed as a tax. That was the only way the Democrats could pass it in the Senate. It came for a vote after Sen. Brown took his seat in the senate to fill Sen. Kennedy’s seat. At that time, the republicans had 41 senate seats. Remember, Sen. Brown was nicknamed “41” because he vowed to oppose Obamacare?
            But then the Democrats in both the House and the Senate agreed to pass it as a tax, thereby needing only a bare majority of 51 in the senate. Was that so long ago that you already forgot? Just do a little research.

          • carolinagirl101

            You are annoyingly condescending for no good reason. That’s what liberals do when they can’t make their point, by the way: “(CNN) — In its ruling last week on the national health care law, the Supreme Court found that penalties the law places on people who don’t buy health insurance count as a tax protected by the Constitution.

            The Obama administration had argued that the fees should be considered a penalty. But the government also argued that the individual mandate can be viewed as constitutional under Congress’ powers of taxation.

            The high court rejected the “penalty” argument.

            “The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance; the payment is not limited to willful violations, as penalties for unlawful acts often are; and the payment is collected solely by the (Internal Revenue Service) through the normal means of taxation,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the decision.”

          • Bob Hadley

            Typical ideologue: anyone who disagrees with you is arrogant, dishonest, and/or brainwashed. Anything to change the subject, right?

            Once again, your post supports what I’ve been saying: the SCOTU interpreted (or, if you wish, considered) the payment under the individual mandate of Obamacare as a tax for constitutional purposes.

            Yes, Pres. Obama’s atty. gen. argued in the alternative: that the payment in question should be interpreted (or, if you wish, considered) as a penalty or fee or, in the alternative, the payment should be interpreted (or, if you wish, considered) as a tax under the COTUS.

            So what? Lawyers argue in the alternative all the time. It’s perfectly legitimate. I bet you’d defend it if your side successfully argues in the alternative against Obamacare even if it appeared to contradict statement made by opponents of Obamacare.
            Whether the status quo is better than Obamacare is an entirely different issue. Whether you agree with the SCOTUS’ ruling is an entirely different issue.

            Ideologues spend far too much time and focus looking for offense and far too little time addressing real issues.
            Yes, CJ Roberts wrote the opinion. He was joined by 4 other justices, which made it the majority opinion.

          • Bob Hadley

            Typical ideologue: anyone who disagrees with you is arrogant, dishonest, and/or brainwashed. Anything to change the subject, right?
            Once again, your post supports what I’ve been saying: the SCOTU interpreted (or, if you wish, considered) the payment under the individual mandate of Obamacare as a tax for constitutional purposes.
            Yes, Pres. Obama’s atty. gen. argued in the alternative: that the payment in question should be interpreted (or, if you wish, considered) as a penalty or fee or, in the alternative, the payment should be interpreted (or, if you wish, considered) as a tax under the COTUS.
            So what? Lawyers argue in the alternative all the time. It’s perfectly legitimate. I bet you’d defend it if your side successfully argues in the alternative against Obamacare even if it appeared to contradict statement made by opponents of Obamacare.
            Whether the status quo is better than Obamacare is an entirely different issue. Whether you agree with the SCOTUS’ ruling is an entirely different issue.
            Ideologues spend far too much time and focus looking for offense and far too little time addressing real issues.

          • carolinagirl101

            You are annoyingly condescending for no good reason: ” (CNN) — In its ruling last week on the national health care law, the Supreme Court found that penalties the law places on people who don’t buy health insurance count as a tax protected by the Constitution.

            The Obama administration had argued that the fees should be considered a penalty. But the government also argued that the individual mandate can be viewed as constitutional under Congress’ powers of taxation.

            The high court rejected the “penalty” argument.

            “The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance; the payment is not limited to willful violations, as penalties for unlawful acts often are; and the payment is collected solely by the (Internal Revenue Service) through the normal means of taxation,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the decision.”

    • legal eagle

      Dems can only pray the Republicans nominate Ted Cruz for POTUS…Barry Goldwater redux…

      • D Parri

        I would take him or a dozen other Republicans or Independents over ANY offering presented by the Dems.

        • legal eagle

          No doubt….You’d take Nixon over any Democrat…You’d also take Hitler over any Democrat…I sense a pattern….LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            Keep posting this kind of crap and you’ll never be worth anyone’s time.

          • D Parri

            And you will take Sh*t over Shinola. Real impressive!

  • bobnc57

    Ted Cruz can’t possibly shut down the government. Congress passed a bill to fund the Government. Ted Supports that bill. It’s people like Barrack Obama and Harry Reid who don’t support the bill that will be shutting down the Government if we’re fortunate enough to have Government shutdown. I pray we do!

  • Don

    Go eff yourself, Bernie.

  • JB

    I’m sick of these “conservatives” like Goldberg who just lay down while their fellow Americans can’t get a job or are being forced to work part-time, or can’t afford the very high premiums. Once Goldberg is fired by Fox and he’s on his butt (like the RINOs in the Senate) with no income and can’t get a job like millions of Americans because of Obamacare, maybe he’ll realize that we don’t have time to play his political game: Americans need jobs NOW!!!

  • TerPet

    Bernie,
    I’ve been watching you for years on ‘The Factor’…
    I will now be changing the channel…That’s how I vote.

    Heard Sara Palin say today on ‘Cavuto’, that there are Three Parties now:
    -The Democrats
    -The “The GOP Machine” (Rino Republicans) and,
    -The “Good Guys” (True Independants and Conservatives who love Freedom, Small Government, and the Constitution!)
    And It’s not in the same party with Goldberg, Rove and Morris.

    • legal eagle

      I saw Palin also…She should be on the comedy circuit.. By the way…why did she quit as Governor?

      • D Parri

        Oh, didn’t you hear…she was nominated as a VP candidate. Where were you?

        • Jim Maxedon

          Ignorance is bliss, I guess. She quit as governor almost nine months AFTER the election was over.

          • Rodney Lee Conover

            funny dems didn’t have a problem with hillary quitting as sen. of ny after promising she wouldn’t and Bill quitting governorship of Ark to run for president. But that’s the Dems! Okay for Dem

          • Jim Maxedon

            Let’s see. Hillary left the Senate the day she assumed the office of Secretary of State. Bill quit as Arkansas governor about a month and a half after being elected President.

            Sarah Palin quit as Alaska governor nine months after the 2008 election in order to uh, fish?

          • legal eagle

            Don’t confuse Rodney with the facts…..

          • Jeff Webb

            Hillary ran for reelection to the Senate knowing that she would be running for president soon after. Her reward to her constituents for keeping her in power was abandoning them the moment she could get more power.

          • Jim Maxedon

            I suppose McCain would have given up the presidency and remained a Senator from Arizona had he won.

          • Jeff Webb

            Nice liberal sidestepping. Your teachers at Arthur Murray must be proud.

          • Paul Borden

            Just FYI, Bill PROMISED the people of Arkansas when he ran for governor in 1990 he would not quit in the middle of the term to run for president. Of course, he then succumbed to the “will of the people” and ran for president two years later. FYI, I was living in Arkansas at the time.

          • Jim Maxedon

            That must have been the first time in our nation’s history that has ever happened. Not.

          • Jeff Webb

            And it sure wasn’t the first time (certainly not the last time, wouldn’t you say?) Clinton sold a load of B.S. to the public.

            I don’t buy the phony liberal tripe that Governor Palin was wrong to resign when she did. You guys have an amusing habit of holding conservatives to a standard that hardly anybody, especially liberals, could strive for.

            Honestly, based on Obama’s running mate, one might get the impression libs were against Gov. Palin becoming VP because she was too intelligent.

            The lawsuits against her were nothing but character assassination by ruthless liberal haters, and you would’ve just as easily criticized her if she had stayed. Or perhaps you’d like to insult people’s intelligence and say you approve of her in any way on any subject.

          • Jim Maxedon

            Gee, must have been the first time in history a Senator or Governor ever resigned after being elected president. Anybody who takes a promise like that seriously is pretty naive.

          • Paul Borden

            Jim: I’m not saying nobody else ever resigned from another office to accept the presidency or that that is a bad thing. Kind of obvious, really. But his promise to fill out his term in Arkansas was a very big deal that helped get him reelected governor in 1990. Clinton himself made it an issue, and a columnist at one of the state’s biggest newspapers pressed him on it and when Bill said he was going to fill out his term as governor, that’s how he got the newspaper’s endorsement. Would it have made a difference if he hadn’t gotten that endorsement? Probably not, but voters did take it seriously, and it was a major topic when Bill made his announcement to seek the nomination for president. Obviously, Bill took it seriously because he made it a point to relay the message that he was succumbing the will of the people in seeking the presidency, that the “people” wanted him to do it. One other factor in this was that this was only the second time an Arkansas governor was going to serve a four-year term. That likely made the promise of filling out a term a bit more of an issue than it likely would be today.

          • D Parri

            So say thanks for your ignorance. Palin would have continued as Governor until the end of her term if she hadn’t become involved in the presidential race.

            I’m sure that you can’t see it but when she quit she stated that she had been through enough and wanted to get out of politics for the time. This was the culmination of a very nasty campaign in which the maniacal left media, as well as Obama’s supporters, attacked Sarah Palin both during the campaign and after the campaign. It had become almost impossible for her to function as governor effectively while defending herself from liberal left zealots who were determined to bring her down.

            Apparently their barrage of attacks worked, and I believe that I would have made the same decision as she did. So, you can remain ignorant to the fact if you wish but her entrance into the 2008 presidential campaign was the reason that she ultimately resigned as Governor of Alaska.

          • Jim Maxedon

            I’m not the least bit ignorant of any of those “facts”. Sarah Palin must be the only politician who was ever attacked before and after an election. Barack Obama comes to mind. BTW, there were many on the right who were horrified by McCain’s selection of Palin and said so. McCain didn’t quit after losing in 2008. Kerry didn’t quit after losing 2004. Both were savaged by their opponents and the media.

            How exactly did anything going on in the media or in the world of politics make it “impossible” for her to function as governor? We have governors throughout the nation who have had to deal with political and legal issues and managed to “function” just fine without quitting. What they didn’t have was a deal with Fox to be a contributor, to have her own “reality” show, to write books, and to go onto the speechifying circuit to make hundreds of thousands of dollars. It apparently took her almost nine months to get her ducks in order and sign all the contracts.

            In other words, Palin makes a lot more money as a grifter than as a governor.

          • D Parri

            It’s not hard to do the math. Let’s see…Governor’s salary minus legal costs of defending against charges of ethics violations that were eventually proven unfounded — vs. — the income potential from her current activities….

            It might not be clear to you but it is to me and any sane person. Bankruptcy AIN’T good…net positive income IS good. Plain and simple.

          • Jim Maxedon

            Poor dear. Interesting though that all but two were dismissed or resolved early in 2009, the latest in May, two months before she resigned. At the time of her resignation only two were pending.

            She also claimed she was resigning because she would be a “lame duck” once she declared she was not running for re-election. So every elected official should quit once it is clear they won’t run for re-election?

            She’s a fraud.

        • legal eagle

          She quit as governor after the 2008 election….in the middle of her term…..Hate to bore you with an inconvenient truth…

      • Rodney Lee Conover

        same reason hillary quit as Senator and Bill quit as governor of Arkansas?… OW!!!

      • D Parri

        She had enough of the Democrat Party attacks which started when she entered the 2008 presidential election campaign. Normally those attacks begin to subside after the election, but the Democratic Party ‘machine’ is a particularly nasty lot that enjoys dining on the carcasses of their enemies.

        Thank goodness, though, what goes around comes around…as they say.

        • legal eagle

          Palin is unique….I do not know of any elected governor who quit in the middle of a term unless there was a scandal involved. I also don’t know any political figure who makes more media appearances and shows less aptitude of understanding policy.
          Palin is a caricature of every dumb politician ever portrayed in the movies or on TV…

          • D Parri

            Spoken like a true ideologue. Never mind the facts or circumstances.

          • legal eagle

            What facts or circumstances? Palin’s need to make money?

  • Chuck Weaver

    Another guts less RINO. The Republicans will be blamed because so called conservative won’t stand up for the truth. Tell the American people who will actual shutdown the government if and it happens. Ted Cruz and al have said that they don’t want to shut down the government. The only way the government will be shut down is if Obama vetoes the budget less Obamacare put forward by both houses of congress. That is the true of the matter.

    • legal eagle

      The truth about what? What is Cruz standing up for?

      • D Parri

        I think it’s called principles. Look it up.

        • legal eagle

          Hitler stood up for principles…Mao stood up for principles…What principle are you referring to?

          • Ernesto Del Toro

            What does corrupt Obama and the Democrats stand for.?? cowards

          • legal eagle

            Health insurance for all Americans…..have a problem with that?

          • Jeff Webb

            They stand for one thing: power. They couldn’t care less if people have or don’t have insurance.

          • Jeff Webb

            You stand for NO principles, unless being a petty little troll qualifies.

          • legal eagle

            Does that mean you sit on your principles?

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Limerick?
    The media you know has some heft,
    when righties are sold to vote left,
    so what does our Cruz,
    have left to lose,
    here’s hoping his move is quite deft.

    • Chuck Weaver

      Good deal

    • legal eagle

      A Right Wing rapper…very impressive..

      • Brian Fr Langley

        It’s a limerick, look it up

  • Jim ciaravino

    I also do not agree with you Bernie on Cruz, someone has to stand up for the people out there. If we just let this happen and in time it fails, the government will just keep asking for money to fix it just like SS, Medicare, Education, how much will this cost the American people before we decide it has failed. By the time we realize that it has failed it’s to late, no going back. I simply cannot understand why so many Republicans are doing the same thing Cruz is doing, it’s not about the Tea Party or Conservative it’s about Americans. We are in trouble here with the ACA and it has to be stopped in it’s tracks now

    • legal eagle

      So Cruz is standing up for the people? Which people, the 30 million uninsured. The people who cant get health insurance because of preexisting conditions? The people who cant afford prescription drugs?
      Cruz doesn’t give a damn about these people and neither do most Republicans…

      • Jim ciaravino

        It is more likely that more people will decide not to get insurance and just pay the fine, it’s a complete lie that this will cover 30 million people that currently don’t have Health Insurance. Companies all over the country are dropping coverage or cutting back on hours being worked so they don’t have to pay for Ins. This is so unrealistic. In conclusion the conversation here doesn’t have anything to do with your comment it’s more about what Bernie said about Ted Cruz and Conservatives.

      • Jeff Webb

        The people forced to work less hours. The people who have to pay more in premiums. The people who don’t get to keep their plans as Obama said.

        Know what conservatives care about least? Whether or not liberal cheap-shot artists like you approve of us.

        • legal eagle

          You know you’re full of it…Only reason Republicans are against Obamacare is the same reason they were against Medicare and Social Security….They are worried it will cost them votes….
          You can accentuate all the negatives you want but if you actually believe them then you are self delusional…

          • Jeff Webb

            I don’t need to accentuate anything. YOU need to open your eyes. Why don’t you dig into that litigating head of yours and explain why this great law would need to be delayed (illegally) by BO, be completely waived for federal employees, and be seen as so burdensome that people making about $175K a year got a huge subsidy when they couldn’t get the exemption they wanted.
            You gonna try saying it’s too good for them?

          • legal eagle

            The delay is Illegal? Did a Court say so? Why is it illegal?
            Aren’t federal workers already covered under FEHB? What does Obamacare have to do with federal workers?
            People making $175K get a subsidy? In what state?

          • Jeff Webb

            Illegal: whether or not Congress or a court stops a president from picking & choosing certain parties for waivers or delays, it is still outside his authority.

            Federal workers: Obamacare requires that people take part in its exchanges if their present insurance has a change, and other reasons IIRC. The aforementioned federal workers will be exempt in that event.

            Subsidy: Congress asked for and got a subsidy to make up for the expense they faced with Obamacare right after they were pressured into being subjected to it.

            Deal with it, kid. The law is a disaster. It’s only going to get worse. The only good thing I can say about it is millions of democrats will suffer the consequences of their vote.

          • legal eagle

            Jeff,
            Something is “illegal” if a court rules it to be “illegal”. That’s the way our legal system works…
            Your scare tactic strategy is the same one the Repubs tried to use in the 60’s regarding Medicare. Reagan stated in ads that Medicare would kill the healthcare system.
            The Republicans have offered no alternative to Obamacare. You are against Obamacare because 1) it’s a Dem program and b) because you already have insurance so there is no benefit to you….
            Let me know when the Repubs have an alternative to Obamacare..

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Something is “illegal” if a court rules it to be “illegal”. That’s the way our legal system works…<>The Republicans have offered no alternative to Obamacare. You are against Obamacare because 1) it’s a Dem program and b) because you already have insurance so there is no benefit to you….Let me know when the Repubs have an alternative to Obamacare..<<

            Just like Obama before the law's passage, you're lying.

            So, are you okay with our wealthy members of Congress getting subsidized, or is it just the white liberal ones?

          • legal eagle

            “Pathetic” ? I’m stating how the legal system works. If you think the legal system is pathetic so be it…
            Republican’s used to say they wanted to “repeal and replace” Obamacare…Replace with what?
            I have no idea why members of Congress would be subsidized under the ACA…What are you talking about?

  • CruzSupporter

    If so called Republicans like yourself say there’s no way that Cruz can be successful at stopping the funding of Obamacare, why do you people keep saying he’s going to cause a government shutdown? What are you so afraid of? The truth is it exposes all the weak kneed, “Republicans in name only”, who could care less about the people and it shows who the fighters for the Amercian people are. It will be remembered at the voting booth. You can count on that.

    • legal eagle

      You and Cruz are the tough guys? Amazing how stupid some right wingers are…

      • D Parri

        But I don’t think they can hold a candle to the left-wing Loonies. Now THAT is amazing!

      • Jeff Webb

        You’re just saying that because you hate Hispanics.

        • legal eagle

          LOL

    • ElvisWasAHero2Most

      But are these GOP politicians really fighting for the entire American public or simply the people they represent in their districts? I agree there is a big uproar from conservatives in deep red districts, but there are blue districts as well. Moderation from the GOP, i.e. not saying no to everything Obama says, will benefit the party nationally.

  • CMB

    Bernie, Really? With the Cruz/gun photo? Taking this all very personal aren’t you? If the scourge of Obamacare stays and your future hip replacement or heart attack treatment (name your old age illness) gets denied (to paraphrase Obama “take pain medicine and go home’) due to lack of qualified doctors, lack of available hospital beds, the Feds think you are too old to spend money on to pay for the procedures, etc. I promise you, and all the other dumbasses that drink the Obama and RINO Kool aid, will wish that Cruz’s mission to kill Obamacare succeeded. You are a fool and are part and parcel of the DC Establishment elitist mindset cancer eating us from within. You need to get out more and talk with people like me who are sickened by the career politician and pundit. I am a veteran, hard working individualist who believes our Government is fat, bloated, corrupt and ineffective, a sucking black hole of our hard earned taxpayer dollars. People who believe as I do are legion. Get off your ass and do some real journalistic investigation instead of talking with the same old dried up establishment republicans. You lost me buddy. I did enjoy your viewpoints. You are on the wrong side of history on this one.

    • legal eagle

      If you get hit by lightning and die you wont have to worry about the lack of qualified doctors or any of your other paranoid ideas…

  • michaelgingerly

    I will never watch another BOR program as long as Bernie is a guest.

    Look in the mirror if you want insults Bernie.

    • Bernie

      This is a great example of closed-minded conservative orthodoxy. If you disagree with me you won’t watch the show anymore. Imagine if a liberal dolt said something like that. Imagine if a liberal too a position the hard left disagreed with. And then the hard left tried to banish him. You’d (rightly) say they’re a bunch of loons. Conservative orthodoxy does us no good. Watch the show if you want. Don’t watch if you don’t want. But don’t be like the liberals you detest.

      • D Parri

        Bernard, more and more left-wing Loonies are making those type comments on your blog every week. The magic of free speech!

        BTW, I do watch the show, and have for several years.

      • Bob Hadley

        Bernie,
        I’m in basic agreement with what you said immediately above. But, I think you might have it backwards. My understanding is that many of those on the Left became close-minded, bigoted and uncivil as a knee-jerk to the same traits of many on the Right. I’m going back to the Post-WWII era through the 1970’s. I’m probably not going back far enough.

    • legal eagle

      Wow, boycotting Bernie…I’m sure he’ll be up all night worrying about it..

  • garbones

    Okay Bernie, Somehow, Someway our voices need to be heard. Mr. Cruze is telling my side, he is not an idiot, and he is not doing it for self interest or gain. There are few people who can be trusted with this, especially not the pandering senate body of Democrats and stupid progressive Republicans. He and a few are honorably serving the best interests of the American people, and they are not the old school. It’s time for a real change and there is is standing up today on the Senate floor.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      I agree that Cruz should be a strong voice of opposition against Obamacare. I don’t think for a second that he is an idiot. I think he’s a good man and I like his principles. I like that he’s speaking out on the Senate floor.

      I disagree that there’s no self-interest involved. And, unfortunately, I believe the strategy he is using may very well prevent the Republicans from taking the Senate and being in a better position to start stripping away Obamacare.

      • legal eagle

        What are Cruz’s principles? Opposing policies that help millions of Americans? Texas has the largest number of uninsured in the country.. think Cruz gives a damn?

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Shhh. Adults are talking.

  • Decoragenus

    Many sharp thinkers veer to the latitudinarian over time – add Bernard Goldberg’s name to that list.

  • Robin Nolet

    Bernie, my husband and I are late 50’s and have found ourselves disagreeing with you more and more-O’Reilly too. Republicans need to remember they aren’t Democrats. If we don’t stand up for what our founders risked lives and fortunes for then we are no longer the country they fought for. We are thankful to see more and more true conservatives coming on the scene. True conservatives are Americas only hope of remaining truly American.

    • Chuck Weaver

      I watched the segment with o’reilly and had to turn it off, as I have found myself doing more and more these days. O’Reilly is almost as arrogant as Obama. I don’t know why anyone in the right mind comes on his show any more. He interrupts them if the say something he doesn’t agree with and even worse he interrupts them and takes credit if the start to say something that he does agree with but forgot to say first. He is a bully of the nth magnitude. Said when a former hero loses it.

    • legal eagle

      Well go watch Hannity and listen to Limbaugh…They appeal more to cult members like yourself..

    • D Parri

      I am disappointed that as time goes on there are more and more RINOs coming out of the woodwork. Still, the conservative base is the anchor that America needs to survive.

  • goodwater

    Bernie, your just don’t get it. You’ve accuse Sen. Cruz to be a conservative. He is no more a conservative than I am a liberal. Sen. Cruz is a Constitutionalist. The Ruling Document has been raped by both the Democrats and the liberal Republicans to its very core. So Mr. Goldberg on occasions I have enjoyed your dialogue with O’Reilly but after reading your article on the Senator from Texas in my eyes you have as much value to me as the person sitting in the Oval Office. I pity your short-sightedness at not recognizing that the reason our nation is in the terrible shape it’s in is because for a century the Constitution has be mangled, misaligned, re-interpreted and regurgitated that it no longer resembles the governing document which the Founding Fathers created.

    • Mike Baudanza

      very well said, especially ,from the other persuasion.

    • legal eagle

      Ted Cruz is an arrogant narcissist who is appealing to the right wing nut job wing of the Republican Party….This wing of the party believes the Confederacy won the civil war….

      • Rodney Lee Conover

        um, Legal, the Confederacy was made up primarily of Democrats.. as was the Klan. Dems wrote Jim Crow laws, were responsible for the Trail of Tears, Japanese Concentration Camps, Separate but Equal, – need more examples? Okay, the Dems were the party of slavery, which was ended by the Republican Party. MLK was a Republican. So was Fredrick Douglass (sorry, you probably never heard of him). anyway, if there is someone arrogant, it would be anyone posting something so ignorant as your post above. PS: Senator Byrd, Grand Cyclops, Al Gore Senior – racist, hateful anti-Semite. oh yeah… think the N-word wasn’t thrown around a little at the dinner table at little Al Jr.?

        • legal eagle

          What’s your point about Democrats? Southern politicians are still fighting the Civil War? It’s geographical not party affiliation…..but you already know that. Do you think the South turned red by accident? But you already know that also…
          Republicans can only maintain limited political power by gerrymander….Cruz is a political sideshow and, like most recent right wing side shows, he will fade away as soon as Roger Ailes gets tired of him…

  • GilbertDavis

    Everyone should be watching the filibuster . The truth is being told . For that alone , it is worth it !!!

  • frankharshaw

    I respect you Bernie but you are on the wrong side of this issue. I am a baby boomer but the Milleniums are the NEXT group of Conservatives and they are wtih Ted Cruz and not the old guard. The sooner you and O’Reilly accept this the more the Conservatives in the GOP can come together.

  • gmwolf

    If you only stand up for your principles, when it costs you nothing, then you have no principles. What good is being in office, if you have to vote with Harry Reid? If the Republicans stick with Bernie, you guys are toast. Give up, become open Socialists and be happy with a government like France or Spain.

  • Halfbreed

    I wish we had politicians at all levels of government that actually loved and served their country.

  • Chris Miller

    You and your old worn out establishment are out of touch with reality, a new vibrant, bold and principled group of real Americans are emerging, learning, growing in numbers and will put the old guard establishment out to pasture soon.

  • Paul Vasek

    Someone has to stand up to this unaffordable tax and Ted Cruz is one brave man. You never miss a chance to either bash Christians and conservatives on your “perch” either, Mr. Goldberg.

  • Mike

    Republicans are as stupid as Democrats are evil.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      lol. That was pretty profound.

  • Di SEARcy

    Bernard, you are stuck in the 60’s! Wake up!

  • legal eagle

    Bernie’s not agreeing with the Right Wing nuts….Can’t wait for the haters and
    anti-Semites to start turning on Bernie…….

    • Brian Fr Langley

      Pretty sure the agenda is right on schedule. The end game is win the house in 2014, then agree Obama care is a pile of poo. The solution? A one payer (the Government) system. It’s so close they can smell it.

      • legal eagle

        Single payer system like Medicare? Politically impossible in the near future…..Too many vested interests against it…

        • Brian Fr Langley

          Wait for it, If the Democrats take the house they’ll turn on Obama care like a pack of rabid dogs. With only one possible solution. Yes, just like Medicare. remember you heard it here first.

    • Rodney Lee Conover

      legal eagle: … right-wing nuts… anti-semites… haters…

      Behold: A liberal with nothing to say – completely beaten on an issue. One who cannot debate, argue, reason or think on his own. Not an original thought in his head. Complete ad hominen troll. That, my friends is a liberal. Pity him for just a short while. Study him for a moment and remember: When you see him in the gulag, point him out – he’ll be posing as one of us.

      • legal eagle

        Brilliant insight from someone who hasn’t had an original thought since he decided to drop out of high school…

    • Chuck Weaver

      Don’t have to be a right-wing nut or an anti-Semite to disagree with this out of date RINO.

      • legal eagle

        Didn’t say you had to be….Just commenting on some of the posts I’ve seen here….

  • Bryant Gumble

    Thank you Mr. Goldjew for confirming you are a coward.

    • legal eagle

      Thank you Mr. Bigot….

    • Brian Fr Langley

      completely distasteful and uncalled for, you should immediately apologise.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        Pretty sure that was our old friend, “I Hate Fascists” paying the website a visit.

  • Curtis2121

    Bernie, and O’Reilly should JUST SHUT-UP… I will never watch O’REILLY again, he getting to big for his pants,,

  • Curtis2121

    Let him (CRUZ) destroy the Republican Party, someone need to DESTROY them..The Republican party are a BUNCH— of—- SNAKES— CRAWLING— IN—THE— GRASS—…

    • 19don36

      It’s talk like this, Curtis that is destroying this country by keeping us from having sensible, social dialog that could actually result in progress. Shame on you.

      • Curtis2121

        Where have you been???? The Republicans are “SNAKES and I hope the REPUBLICAN PARTY IS DESTROYED… What have they done for the AMERICAN People in the last five years,,, “NOTHING”, but Kiss Obama ASS. Shame on me…

        • 19don36

          What would your Mama say?

  • Yo mon

    Fact, we get blamed anyways!!! Who cares!!! We pay u to stand up and fight. Do your job!!

  • GMA

    WHO CARES WHO GETS THE BLAME. SOMEONE PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.

  • Vicky060

    Bernie, your comments are right on except in one regard. Reagan was not a strict conservative. All those Reagan Democrats were really moderates who voted for RR. He favored amnesty for immigrants, abortions and gay rights when he was in California. He couldn’t win the nomination now. How in the world do these current Republicans hope to beat Dems without moderates. There are more D’s than R’s. Rush and the others convince voters that everybody but people like Rick Santorum are RINO’s.

  • Jack Shaw

    I usually agree with you. watched you for yearss but you are on the wrong side here.

  • thefermiparadox

    Hear, Hear.

    Zealots is damn right. Cruz only cares about making a name for himself. He needs to quit saying “the American People.” He does not represent the American people. No one does; does he not know a diverse people of millions don’t all hold the exact same view? He’s an ass clown bibletard from Texas. Great point on Boiling, I’m with you. He seems like a nice enough of guy. He just has no critical thinking or reasoning skills. Imus says he has to be the dumbest guy on all of television.

    • 19don36

      More nice, constructive dialog.

  • Tim

    Bernie your dead wrong on this. Your joining with the RINO’s only proves your political senses have been dulled by the Washington cesspool!

  • kayakbob

    I think Obamacare will prove to be the worst legislation passed in perhaps the last 50 years. That said, the defund gang are going about this all wrong. They should do the exact opposite – make way for “the law”, then stand clear of all the bad effects and unintended (maybe?) consequences. Every negative effect should have its very own 30 second TV spot with Cruz and Lee making one simple point, “WE didn’t do this to you, but we can’t stop it”.

    * “You are upset? Ok fine, then the least you can do is direct your anger at the people that actually made this “the law”.

    * “Finding out your CAN’T keep your own doctor after all? Here is where to direct your anger.” .

    * “Your spouse has just been dropped by your insurance provider?”

    * “Your premiums just went up 300%?”

    And every new reality of this mess would be a new, single, TV spot with that same foam finger pointing at the same people.

    But in order for the Republicans in the House and Senate to do this honestly, they must also reject the subsidies they will receive from “the law”.

  • dave

    You are wrong Berni. Who cares if there is a government shut down? In fact it would be great to show what out of control spending does to a nation. Life will go on as normal. It should be all government employees who stop getting pay checks. It would be nice to see air force one grounded.

  • Scott Flynn

    Reagan may be the only conservative elected President in 80 years, but the all campaign like one!

  • M.E. Deckhut

    Always respected you, sir. However, I am an American who is exhausted listening to the pundits telling us who is fighting for us or against us in either party. The fact of the matter is, NO REPUBLICAN, from John Boehner down, has had the back of the people and what we want with the exception of a few, and Senator Cruz is among them. We need to CLEAN HOUSE of those not as courageous as those, such as Cruz, who are standing up for the people!!

    • legal eagle

      Cruz is standing up for Fox News and himself…..Just another Right Wing Nut Job whose followers can’t think for themselves…

      • Rodney Lee Conover

        now there’s some critical thinking for you! nice job there irony-man

        • legal eagle

          So you want critical thinking about a politician who is doing political grandstanding? What am I missing?

          • Rodney Lee Conover

            Whoa!! A cogent thought without a personal attack?

            Legal, what’s got into you? makes me wanna cry. Okay, you deserve a reward: “What are you missing?”

            Ted Cruz is doing what he was elected by his constituents to do. I know that’s a bizarre concept for libs / Dems / ruling class GOP’ers, but that’s the fact. ObamaCare was passed without the full Congress actually voting on it. That’s right – look it up. It was “deemed” to have passed.

            The Supreme Court decided it was a “tax” and you
            being a “Legal Eagle” you know better than us rednecks that all appropriations must originate (that means “begin”) in the House of Representatives according to the Constitution, which ObamaCare did not! Hey..

            If you’re really a “legal eagle” I’m telling you
            something you already know. The public is overwhelmingly against the ACA and Barack Obama knows it .

            Despite that, Barack Obama has- by presidential fiat – given large corporations, donors, congress, their families, their staffs, their families, his cronies, himself, his staff, and favorite unions WAIVERS from this onerous law that you and I have to live under. It’s that good!!

            And he’s decided that the CORE of the law (the mandate) can be ignored by big business for a year. In other words, the President – who has no authority to rewrite legislation – did exactly that, thus ignoring the
            separation of powers. HEY‼! The Executive Branch can’t do that? That’s a high crime. That’s an impeachable offense. But you knew that. You’re “Legal Eagle.”

            Look up the word Fascism, Legal. It’s the collusion of big business and government. Blam!

            No one read this bill and even your Speaker at the time admitted it. How can you live with that? Who do you think wrote this bill? The insurance companies wrote it, Legal and they are reaping the windfalls as we speak, buddy. Go ahead and curse them and think all day long that ObamaCare is designed to screw them but they are cashing in pal – thanks to Pelosi, Reid, Obama and every Dem that got bribed to forced it down your throat.

            You have the temerity to criticize and condemn Ted Cruz for standing up to this cabal? I ask you, “legal eagle”, if this is not something to stand up and fight against, what is?

            Now: You may go back to name calling. You already done good once today and got a gold star- folks, that ain’t bad! Don’t address anything above, do no research, don’t fact-check, look anything up – just call me names because you’re off the hook because there was a moment of clarity today, friendo.

            Whatever you do, Legal – do not open your mind one iota to even the possibility that you may be wrong about Obama or this law. Keep that little mind closed to anything – anything except that Obama can do no wrong. Ignore the stats, the facts, the unemployment, the misery, the ineptness, the debt, the joke that is this incompetent, unqualified, untested, harsh, arrogant,
            golf-playing liar. It’s okay that the experiment went awry.

            out and over.

            Hillary Benghazi 2012 – we will not forget

          • legal eagle

            I’d be much more impressed by Cruz if he had an alternative to Obamacare? A Republican from Texas was elected to do one specific thing? Unlikely..
            I have not heard of any alternative proposal by Cruz or the House Republicans…Texas has the highest rate of uninsured in the country…
            Personally, I am tired of paying high insurance premiums to subsidize those who have no insurance…Disagree with my position?

          • http://www.imsickofthecrap.com Red_SC

            So, you would rather pay 99% higher (latest Forbes study) insurance rates to subsidize those who cannot afford insurance, or get a government gift, like members of Congress? Wake up and smell the anesthesia!

    • legal eagle

      You need to get a job cleaning houses… At least you’ll be doing something useful.

  • Jim

    Bernie you Yellow Belly !!!

  • grandpagreer

    Until now, I have listened to you and agreed with most of what you say. I gave up on Rove first, the way he went after Christine O’Donnell and other Tea Party candidates. I gave up on O’Reilly the way he has moved to the middle on this and other issues I care deeply about. Now you.
    Shame on you!
    It doesn’t matter what Cruz and Bolling and Paul and Lee and the others with guts do, they and the rest of the Republicans will be blasted and tarnished by the left and the media…something you should know. Seems like you are now the one with a slobbering love affair…or at least rolling over and letting it happen. Bolling and Cruz and the others are standing up to what is right. You don’t want O-Care. But you will, in effect, roll over and let it happen because you think things will go south for the GOP? Really? We are at the tip of Florida, my friend. How much further south can we go? You should read your own book.
    Fight back, even if it’s a lost cause. Fight back and don’t stop fighting.
    Grow a pair, Mr. Goldberg. Even Mrs. Palin has a bigger pair than you and O’Reilly and Rove and McConnell and all the others combined.

    • legal eagle

      You ‘ve got your Medicare…screw everyone else who can’t get health insurance….typical of the right wing mentality…

      • grandpagreer

        Nope. Still working. I understand your mistake. You automatically put me in a group…which is typical of the left wing mentality…and assumed I was something I am not just because of my name. I was hoping that Medicare wouldn’t be touched, but I have to worry about that now that Obamacare has defunded Medicare. I have been paying Federal Income taxes for over 40 years straight now and maintained my choice of medical insurance for me and my family. I was counting on Medicare and SS to get by since my 401k won’t suffice. I help my kids and grandkids with their bills and other needs. Our little country church feeds over 500 people every week (not just a single dinner….enough groceries for every family member for the whole week), for which I gladly donate money and food and materials. And I feel guilty because I don’t think I do enough. My friends and family do much more than me, such as holding fund raisers for medical bills when someone doesn’t have health insurance, building houses for families who lost their homes. All of that and more. Not depending on government to do what some bureaucrat in DC thinks is needed and where they think it’s needed, but identifying the needs in our own homes or our own communities and doing what we can to fill them. That, my friend, is typical of the right wing mentality.

      • http://www.imsickofthecrap.com Red_SC

        Legal, I just realized that you are a paid Soros Media Matters troll. Seems like a great gig! I would love to be paid to just disrupt blogs. Can you send me an application?

  • Wil

    Hey Bernie, You see, being reasonable upsets your fans. Read their posts, they are crazed zealots. Only one agreeing with you is ‘suck up’ John Daly!

  • Jason

    Has anyone even listened to what Cruz is saying. He now is only just trying to get the vote for adding the funding back in the bill to be decided by 60 in stead of 50… He then says that once the bill goes back to the house, to again remove the funding and repass the bill. Then at that time start passing bills to fund the government a piece at a time. Like fund the military, and veterans. Then fund social security and medicare… etc… And that will hang all this crap around the dem’s necks. They won’t vote against a bill to fund the parts and pieces, or they will be seen as against the military, veterans, seniors, etc… It’s actually a pretty good strategy and may just work, if someone were only listening, and not calling names and having a defeatist attitude…

    Bernie, you and Bill are idiots. I hope you enjoy where this country is going. Because you most likely won’t be around when/where it ends. You and Bill are getting old, and just don’t care any more.

  • Philip McKanna

    I admire and respect you Mr Goldberg – but you are wrong on this one. I’m confused why those Republicans who voted against Obamacare are going to fund it. Why would you do that? Is there nobody left in Washington with courage and conviction? It’s very disheartening and disturbing to see all of this unfold…Plus, the Republicans get blamed for everything anyway – so what is different about this one? The government has shutdown many times in the past and we have survived…They are shut down about a 1/10 of the year anyway if take into account all of the stupid Federal holidays they take…I say fight for what is right – fight for what is best for the country – and let the chips fall where they may…

  • tessaprn

    I do believe that we have had enough of the Bernie Goldberg’s and Karl Rove’s! They need to move along with the rest of the old RINO farts to the nearest pasture.

  • Thelmadb

    Who cares what Bernie has to say, and OReilly. Stopped watching him a yr ago…..

  • travis690

    I will disagree with you on all of the above.

    I have noticed that every time the Republican wing of the Establishment Party moves in the direction of agreeing with the Democrat wing, things always get worse for the nation as a whole. The fact that Eric Bolling presents much better ideas than almost anyone in Washington, DC might frighten some that just want to see the politicians walking arm-in-arm with each other, but I have to ask: If “victory” for legislators is defined by how many laws they authored, then doesn’t that just mean that we honor those who found the most things about our nation that needed changing?

    About 40 years ago, Merle Haggard released his best song, “The Fightin’ Side of Me.” Over the subsequent 40 years, I wish many people had followed through on his lyrics instead of becoming legislators:

    If you don’t love it, leave it
    Let this song that I’m singin’ be a warning.
    You’re running down my country, hoss
    You’re walkin’ on the fightin’ side of me.

    Perhaps your ideas are on the fightin’ side of Eric Bolling.

    • legal eagle

      Merle Haggard? The Okie from Muskogee is who you look for enlightenment on government policy? Merle would have a good laugh …

      • travis690

        Just read the part of the song that I quoted, dude. I think that portion of the song tells all you need to know about what took America down the wrong path for the last 40 years.

        Also remember that Merle was part of Nixon’s “Silent Majority” back in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s. That might come as news to you, but it was true.

        As for “Okie from Muskogee”: If you listen to that song, it was a tribute to the people who stick with tradition and eschew all the newfangled West Coast political ideas. To quote the song:

        We don’t smoke marijuana in Muskogee
        Like the hippies out in San Francisco do
        We still salute Old Glory down on Main Street
        And we still respect the college dean.

        For some more history on that song: He and his band wrote it as they left a performance at Cain’s Ballroom in Tulsa, OK in July, 1969, in the tour bus headed to Muskogee. After rehearsing for a few more days, they reached Fort Bragg, NC, where they made the (live) recording a week after leaving Tulsa.

        • legal eagle

          I’ve always liked Merle Haggard’s music…and I remember Okie from Muskogee very well….great parody about rednecks. James Taylor sang the song in concert all the time….

          Critic Kurt Wolff wrote that Haggard always considered what became a redneck anthem to be a spoof, and that today fans — even the hippies that are derided in the lyrics — have taken a liking to the song and find humor in some of the lyrics.[2] In fact, cover versions of the song have been recorded by such countercultural acts as the Grateful Dead, The Beach Boys, Phil Ochs, and The Melvins.

          Wonder if you think Pancho and Lefty had some deep meaning?….LOL

        • legal eagle

          Nixon’s silent majority….consisted of Southern rednecks and scared old folks who were afraid of hippies….
          Only reason Nixon won was because Bobby Kennedy was killed…Nixon should have gone to prison for obstruction as well as war crimes…

  • John Lee

    Bernie, you RINOs are all the same. Someone (like Eric Bolling) should ask you how in heavens republicans were able to get a balanced budget, Welfare reform, and a popular democrat president to declare that, ‘the era of big government is over’. All the same media bologna was said about Gengrich et al back then to no avail…….

  • FIRE THEM ALL- 2014

    Can’t tell all of you talking heads how sick I am of having this pot stirring going on, everytime the word compromise is used anymore it is always the liberals insisting that conservatives give up their positions in favor of theirs. I stand with Cruz, and Rand, I am 68 and have watched the libs turn our country into a sewage dump. Time to grow a spine and say no more of it, before we look like the old Soviet Union, gulags and all.

    • legal eagle

      Great comment form someone on Medicare….I’ve got health insurance…everyone else can go screw themselves….What a country?

      • Jeff Webb

        Your comment has become about as overused as your Archie Bunker references and race-card tossing, and is every bit as lame.

        Do you get paid extra for repetition?

        • legal eagle

          What’s the Republican health care plan for the uninsured?

      • FIRE THEM ALL- 2014

        I worked 50 years, paying into Medicare the entire time, when I didn’t have insurance through a job for my family I worked 3 jobs to make sure I had coverage. I didn’t turn to the government like it was some sort of sugar daddy, robbing from others to give to me. Why you think people should work their rears off trying to take care of their own family and yours is freaking beyond me. Grow up and take care of yourselves.

        • legal eagle

          Thank you Edith Bunker…Who’s robbing from others?..Sad you’re so bitter…Hope you don’t spread your bitterness to the grandkids…

  • Jackie Lindgren

    Bernie,
    I support Ted Cruz, let them blame republicans, they always do anyway.

  • Terrydr

    I was going to comment, but y’all have put in words the sentiment that would be SHOUTED by the Founders of this country, the ones that fought for this GREAT country. We should stand strong for Freedom ALWAYS

  • milo

    All I can say is that in the state that I live in (very-blue Massachusetts) wishy-washy Republicans (RINOs) do not do well. Disenchanted Independents stay home rather than vote. MA Republicans need to win Indies because they are the largest voting group. Give us a Ted Cruz or a Mike Lee and watch the turnout. Remember, Romney couldn’t/didn’t win Massachusetts.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Shared once we our morals of view,
    but those who are left are to few,
    today those with morals,
    just sit on their laurels,
    while the countries gone on now to poo.
    .
    I know, what we need here is compromise. Compromise, compromise, compromise. So much compromise the Declaration of Independence, along with the Constitution, look like they were written for a different nation? And compromise with what? Leftist demands have become so outrageous, that to meet in the middle, fundamentally changes the Nation? Congress abdicated their responsibility decades ago. It’s time for them to MAN UP. and at least try to move forward the vision of the framers. (the vision that built a great Nation)

  • DocBarry1

    Bernie hang em up u r a tool

  • Richard wheatley

    I don’t know why you give comments to a progressive

  • Mattsback

    Seems to me, if I recall correctly. The last shut down was quite successful for the Rep. Party.

  • genewood

    Wow I was always a little suspicious of Mr. Goldberg because of his connection with Ted Baxter. Now now is no doubt where he stands.Very disappointing.

  • Bryan

    God forbid a politician stick to his campaign promises

  • jerry curran

    cruze guts McConnell none

  • Troy Babbitt

    So the answer is to keep being the good little meek Republican and the liberal medias bitch?

  • Roger

    Bernie is a Karl Rove with hair. To see he and Bill…a totally clueless Karl Rove suckup, giving their idiotic opinions on this issue makes me puke. Bernie, you and Bill spent too much time at ABC and your true colors are coming out…you are both RINOS! Republicans have sent Karl Rove specials McCain and Romney to run for president and how did that turn out? Keep electing these types and they will NEVER again win an election because true Conservatives would rather stay home than pinch their nose to avoid the stench and pick another RINO type. How can you not see this?

    • sjangers

      Conservatives would rather stay home than vote for moderate or liberal Republicans? So if I understand correctly, Roger, true conservative would rather we all get a lot sicker than settle for getting just a little bit better. Do I have that right?

      If conservatives refuse to come out and vote for moderate Republicans, preferring to turn the reigns of power over to the Democrats, why do you think the Republicans would do better to nominate conservative candidates? Wouldn’t it make sense then that moderate and liberal Republicans, figuring that turnabout is fair play, would refuse to come out and vote for conservative Republicans? How does the Republican Party ever win another election? Or do you think that liberal and moderate Republicans exist just to follow the stubborn dictates of the party’s right wing? I doubt that dog will hunt.

      Btw, just to keep things as accurate as possible, I think Bernie spent his time at CBS News, not ABC. And I think Karl Rove, rather than being responsible for the John McCain candidacy, may have had a lot to do with derailing his candidacy in 2000. One would think you could at least show a little gratitude.

  • Rodney Lee Conover

    If we’re not going to fight for this, Mr. Goldberg – what will we fight for?

    • legal eagle

      Why don’t you fight for the right to write something intelligent?

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      DON’T stop fighting. Fight the battles that will win the war, not the ones that will lose it.

      • Rodney Lee Conover

        John: If we lose this fight, the war is over. Entitlements don’t go away. I know the argument by mssr’s goldberg and friends that ObamaCare will implode after implementation and then be repealed – but that is the most foolish notion in political history. It will morph into a single-payer system because the government will have to save it. That was their end-game all along. You and Bernie and the country at large have been duped. Yes, this is a long-shot – but get with the program and let’s defund it. At least try. You’ve got nothing – NOTHING- to lose. People don’t throw conservatives out of office for speaking truth to power. This is how we win the Senate, not lose the House. Even if we go down, we go down swinging, not smoking a Kool with John Boehner and Barack Obama. They don’t have to live under this law – you do.

        • Rodney Lee Conover

          PS: You hit one hell of a drive.

          • Rodney Lee Conover

            By the way, you would support anyone that would post a picture of a great patriot with a gun to his head like that?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Honestly, I would not have used the photo. I do, however, agree with the point of the column.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Thanks. ;)

        • legal eagle

          What’s wrong with a single payer system?

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Believe me, we’re of the same mind on Obamacare. Where I disagree is on the tactic.

          It’s not a long-shot. It’s a no-shot. I would absolutely love it if there were enough people in the Senate like Ted Cruz who would vote the same way I would. But it’s not the reality. Taking his route will only make it harder to dismantle Obamacare. Conservatives and Republicans can’t start rolling this stuff back until they have enough numbers in Washington to do so. A government shut down will not help Republicans. It will hurt them.

    • legal eagle

      Go fight with your wife if you need to fight…

  • barb lewis

    The one man that has the cajones to fight this madness called Obamacare and you put him down? Quite fankly, I think your ilk have outplayed themselves on the political stage. You and Rove and many more.. need to take a bow and remain silent. Forever.

    • legal eagle

      How do you know how big his cajones are?

  • LiberalsRNuts

    They tried blaming Reagan for the shutdown and that didn’t work out too well since more conservatives were elected to the senate. The dems have no chance of the house even if a gov shutdown occurs. This “president” has too many scandals and a tanking approval rating. Conservatives stayed home last pres election because they were disenfranchised with Romney. The base wants and deserves a real conservative. Putting in another limp wristed RINO is not the answer.

  • Christopher J Rankin

    Subscribed first, read second….dumb, dumb, dumb…

  • Christopher J Rankin

    We all vote to murder Bernie. But that principled Conservative down at the end of the trough votes ‘NO’. But we kill him anyway and we kill the principled Conservative too. Now replace ‘Bernie’ with America and make Obamacare (debt) the weapon. That’s how I see this.

  • Christopher J Rankin

    Dan? Dan? Dan Rather, is that you? Bernie, just call us idealistic Conservatives. The anarchist in me thinks 6 year term limits, House and Senate, are the only answer. You and O’Reilly make a good pair. I like you both, but me thinks that your both are out of touch. You can see our plight but it’s been a long, long time since you’ve been able to feel it. BTW…the Republicans and even the Democrats of the 40’s and 50’s are the Conservatives of today. Otherwise, keep up the good work.

  • scott.ballinger2

    ‘Pears that Goldberg is lining up with the pant-crease and the New York Times and the knockers and kickers at the WSJ. Pretty childish all these tantrums they’re throwing. Like they’ve got skin in the game. I’m about to start calling them effete. Their paternalism has gotten really old.

  • Alan M Aszkler

    Bernie, you missed the point. It’s not about shuting down the government. It’s about “Pinning the Obamacare Fail on the Donkey”. This is about

    Cruz -Boehner strategy defunding of Obamacare revealed

    I hope I have figured out the Cruz -Boehner strategy with
    the Defunding of Obamacare and it is Brilliant!

    Those guys knocked this one out of the park and by the time
    the DNC, the MSM and the White house realizes what has happened Ted Cruz will
    be rounding third towards 1600 Penn ave..
    This moves intent is to clearly hang Obamacare on the DNC, the MSM and
    the President. Not even Carl Rove will see this coming.

    John will have pushed the measure to the Senate where Ted
    will lead the debate on why this is bad law while stating that they are going
    to fund the government. Already hitting the social media making this clear.

    After the fight in the Senate led by such RINO’s as Graham
    and McCain signing on to bring the vote to over 60, and the never ending
    Lecture from the Bloviater-in-Chief the hook is set, you just reel’em in.

    They will Keep making the case that you wanted to fund
    government but not Obamacare. Always staying on point how and why this law is
    forcing up the cost of healthcare, killing jobs and Passing the burden on to
    future generations. Stating clearly that
    the President backed up by the DNC, the MSM and others in Congress all threated
    to shut down the government if the President didn’t get his way.

    Next they make a Clintonesque heartfelt speech, I tried to stop this bad law stating again why
    they wanted to stop this job killing cost increasing law that is harming millions
    of Americans. Stating they have grave
    concerns and feel the pain of the American people. We really tried to stop this
    but could not defund the government would hurt too many Americans. Basically
    the President is now using extortion at the expense of the little guy to pass
    this harmful law.

    Next they put forth a budget with Obamacare, and I would
    hope legislation to stop and revoke all of the exemptions to the law forcing it
    to be implemented by 2014.

    Game over, the President, the DNC , the MSM and others in
    Congress are “all in” supporting Obamacare. When the economy tanks by
    the 2014 elections Boehner and Cruz run away with the elections and Ted becomes
    the frontrunner for the White house with John as potential VP or a high level
    Cabinet position.

    It’s Brilliant.

    Alan M Aszkler

  • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

    Bernie, Do you mean to tell me that Bolling’s stunt with the ketchup on his hand didn’t win you over to his way of thinking?

    Someone needs to tell him that becoming the Keith Olbermann of the right isn’t a winning scenario.

  • Justusla

    All that said, think of how much better a country this would have been if Barry Goldwater had won the Presidency. No Vietnam. No national debt of the size run up by LBJ and successors. Perhaps, although we’ll never know, a string of like-minded libertarian-leaning conservatives in the White House … would that not have been better than what we got?

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      I don’t think many on the right would argue that having a principled conservative in the White House wouldn’t be a great thing for the country. It would indeed be.

      But electability certainly matters, and if Ronald Reagan wouldn’t have had his personality, speaking skills, and charm, he may very well have never gotten elected. As strong as his message was, his strength as the messenger is what got the electorate behind him.

    • legal eagle

      Barry Goldwater…”In your gut you know he’s a nut”
      I had lunch with the Senator in the early 90’s …a delightful man and a great patriot…. in reality, not anything like his political persona…He will always be remembered for telling Nixon to resign…

  • eric90230

    So, conservatives shouldn’t stand up for their principles. Good plan.

    • sjangers

      Conservatives should stand up for their principles, Kathy. But when they find themselves outnumbered and outvoted they need to find a way to work with others in order to maintain any influence for themselves and their beliefs. Otherwise they’ll find that the place they are standing up is in front of a firing squad- metaphorically speaking, of course.

      • Deane Cooper

        NO! They do what the voters sent them to do. They don’t cave! Why should the right cave to the left when the left never have given an inch in their direction?

        • sjangers

          It isn’t a matter of caving to the left. It’s a matter of cooperating with the center so the left can’t get away with painting the right and center as a bunch of (fill in your own political pejorative) who should be ignored by voters in the next election.

          This disagreement seems to be a matter of perspective, Deane. As I see it, a short-term decision to “do what the voters sent them to do” could turn into a long-term outcome that would be very much against the interests of those same voters.

          Until there’s a clear majority of conservative voters in this country, conservatives need to work with others to get things done. And sometimes the things they will be helping on won’t be done exactly the way they might prefer. But you need to work with others if you want others to work with you.

          If you come banging on my door at three in the morning, pleading with me to hook my hose up to my fire pond because your house is on fire, and I remember that a couple of weeks ago you refused to let me use your telephone to call for emergency help when my son was drowning in that fire pond, because you were expecting an important phone call, I may decide that finishing a good night’s sleep is a lot more important to me than your current problem.

          Life’s like that. If you want others to help you, sometimes your have to be willing to give a little bit to help others.

          • Deane Cooper

            What a very sad and flawed analogy you have chosen to use. First because it does not reflect reality in the slightest, second because you came up with that analogy makes me wonder just how serious you are about compromise. I think you are not the person I would to negotiate a change in a menu with. To imagine anyone not allowing you to call for emergency services when your son is drowning is an unrealistic scenario. Moreover, to go for a phone instead of jumping in the pond to save your child right of the bat shows your inability to deal with reality at it’s basic level.
            We elect the people we do because we believe they reflect our own concerns on topics and issues we find important. Matters of importance are the last things we want our representative to cave on.

          • Sheila Warner

            OMG, tear apart the analogy, instead of realizing just how INSANE the GOP conservatives are. They are, in effect, letting the house burn, they are looking for a cell phone, they are ignoring a drowning person: all this and more. The harm being done to millions of Americans by this stupid arm twisting by the GOP is terrible. If you are lucky enough to be out of the line of fire, good for you. I think it’s outrageous that the GOP’s poison pills not only killed any chance for a compromise, but now the harm being done is being laid at the feet of the President. It’s his decisions that are making the shutdown so much worse for people, when we wouldn’t even be in this shutdown at all if the GOP had just passed a clean CR. So many people pleaded with the Ted Cruz faction to push for the changes to Obamacare when the debt ceiling was reached, but noooooo! They had to ACT NOW. Well, the law is still funded, and now the chance to get any kind of deal on the debt ceiling debate looks pretty slim. Way to go, brain trust!

          • Guest

            Get a grip! Oh brother, you can weave a mighty tale with all that yarn but it makes everything you say even more unrealistic. #1- Had this bill been passed with a fair bi-partisan vote we may not even have gotten to this point at all. Talk about holding back the vote and not compromising on changes in the crapfest you like to call the healthcare bill. Why not begin with Harry Reid? That man is deathly allergic to holding a vote on anything the House sends over. He is in fear of his own party not voting with his agenda, as they have proven each time he does allow a vote, that he simply leaves it all to stack up on his desk week after week. That’s the guy to be trusted when there is something as huge as the collapse of the dollar to contend with once this monstrosity of legislative chicanery starts taking even bigger bites out of the meager savings the ones who can least afford it have left? You need to see an eye doctor quick. Those rose colored glasses seem to have permanently embedded themselves onto your corneas. This is NOT landmark legislation dear, this is a gang bang. IF I am lucky to be out of the line of fire?! Let me tell you what being in the line of fire is all about. As soon as Obama was elected, before he even formally took office, business owners started slashing hours, pay, and health benefits from their employees. The handwriting was on the wall. Tax hikes and the healthcare bill were set to blow an even bigger hole in the economic mess this country was in from the effects of repealing the Glass-Steagal act. You know the one I am speaking of right? The law that kept banks an financial institutions from having too many fingers in the pie? For decades that ACT kept those two entities on their own sides of the street. Thank you and that skunk that went from being a Dem to a Rep and back to a Dem again in order to catch whichever way the winds were blowing to how his district looked for shoving that one down our throats as well.

          • Sheila Warner

            It’s every bit as annoying to me when John Boehner won’t hold votes as it is when Harry Reid won’t. Both sides of the aisle play that game. Yes, Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote. The House was retaken by the GOP in 2010. It’s also true that the GOP suffered losses in 2012. The pendulum swings back and forth. I did not then, nor do I now, think that Obamacare is good for the country. The “unintended” consequences were completely forseeable. But, hey, I’m one of those within the medical field, who had to deal with the worst of the worst behavior by insurance companies while trying to help my patients. Therefore, I am for a single payer program. I didn’t believe some patchwork of government and private health insurance companies would work. On top of all of that, however, the actions of the GOP which led to the shutdown are every bit as short sighted as those who came up with Obamacare. Everyone looks to their own interests instead of the interests of the people.

          • Deane Cooper

            Get a grip! Oh brother, you can weave a mighty tale with all that yarn but it makes everything you say even more unrealistic. #1- Had this bill been passed with a fair bi-partisan vote we may not have gotten to this point at all. Talk about holding back the vote and not compromising on changes in the crapfest you like to call the healthcare bill. Why not begin with Harry Reid? That man is deathly allergic to holding a vote on anything the House sends over. He is in fear of his own party not voting with his agenda, as they have proven each time he does allow a vote, that he simply leaves it all to stack up on his desk week after week. That’s the guy to be trusted when there is something as huge as the collapse of the dollar to contend with once this monstrosity of legislative chicanery starts taking even bigger bites out of the meager savings the ones who can least afford it have left? You need to see an eye doctor quick. Those rose colored glasses seem to have permanently embedded themselves onto your corneas. This is NOT landmark legislation dear, this is a gang bang. IF I am lucky to be out of the line of fire?! Let me tell you what being in the line of fire is all about. As soon as Obama was elected, before he even formally took office, business owners started slashing hours, pay, and health benefits from their employees. The handwriting was on the wall. Tax hikes and the healthcare bill were set to blow an even bigger hole in the economic mess this country was in from the effects of repealing the Glass-Steagal act. The company my husband works for forced all employees to take a cut in pay in order to keep their jobs…. two weeks later they repeated those cuts. Two more weeks and they repeated the action one more time. These were not cents off the dollar cuts either. They were multiple dollar cuts each time. Then came the renewal of the health insurance the company offered and we saw our premiums nearly double over night. No more overtime, no raises, for nearly five years, no empathy for those who were going through this from your side at all. NO. It was all about how much more they could raise taxes in order to have this monstrosity of a bill pay for itself. What a joke that was, huh? People were being tossed out on the street when they could no longer make payments on the homes they bought during the housing boom. You remember that, right. Community organizers had marched on banks and loan companies to lower their standards for how they assessed applicants worthiness and ability to pay back the money they would lend them to purchase their own homes. Most were still new to the home ownership game, not us. We had been paying on our home for over 20 years and we were damn sure not going to let anyone throw us out of it. They nearly got us though. We were two months away from foreclosure proceedings when we made the decision to raid our retirement savings to save our home. By then all we had was our 401ks. But we made it through. All of that was caused by the inevitable emergence of universal health care, sky rocketing utility and gas prices, which naturally were followed by inflated prices at the grocery store, no job market, and of course higher taxes coming at us like a speeding freight train. We are not alone. Millions are and have experienced just what we have. We never have used credit cards, thank our lucky stars for that, so the only real debt we had was our home. And just in the last few months have we finally been restored to the pay he was earning when all of this began. That’s right, no retroactive raises, no back pay, just barely back to the pay he made 5 years ago with no cost of living allowance. And now we are being told that our premiums will sky rocket when the new insurance plans are offered in December. You having fun yet? Do you find the pain others have been experiencing from hanging by their nails for the last 5 years amusing? We don’t. And frankly, we are not as exited as you are to see this bill come to fruition. We don’t expect sympathy, we would find it insulting at this stage of the game. But neither will we be brow beaten by the same party that has denied these repercussions even existed. This president has the most volatile temper of any president I have witnessed in my life! He is acting like a spoiled child! And his attacks on the right have been glaring examples of what we all have to look forward to if he remains in office. No one should be surprised at the way things have gone recently. You should have expected it. We don’t concern ourselves with any of the crap the establishment Republicans have to say, they gave up long ago. The sooner they all go home the better as far as we are concerned. Go ahead and push us… you will find we push back.
            We never wanted this bill, so what makes you think you have any sway with us? You wouldn’t listen when it counted. You refused any compromise offered. Every last one of you is so certain that the right is in collapse that you have forgotten what that collapse looked like when you were going through it. Tell me this…. how will you be able to compose yourselves when a Republican is back in the Oval Office? Or a Tea Party candidate? Do you feel comfortable knowing they will have access to your most private medical records? Will they be making decisions on what should or shouldn’t be paid for should you fall into a medical crisis situation?

            Enjoy….

          • sjangers

            Thanks for responding, Deane. You didn’t have to. Really.

            The whole point of an analogy is to point out, in a clear and dramatic manner, truths that might be difficult to understand while plowing through the minutiae of a circumstance for comprehension. The analogy isn’t always intended to be realistic, or even completely relatable, so long as it addresses the fundamental point and makes it easier for all to see.

            Interestingly enough, the parts of my analogy that appear to disturb you the most may be quite relatable. You can’t conceive of a situation where anyone would deny help to another in an emergency, although it does happen. But consider this. In 2008 the Republican right wing was sounding the klaxons and calling the party to battle stations because of the dangers they thought Barrack Obama posed to the country. Our party nominated John McCain and many conservatives decided that even the selection of Sarah Palin as McCain’s running mate wasn’t enough to get them out of their homes to help protect the country.

            In 2012 the conservatives were screaming that President Obama was engaged in a deliberate effort to destroy the country. He was, they insisted, trying to undermine our economic system and take away our fundamental liberties in order to radically transform the United States and bring about the destruction of America as we know it. It was an emergency! The majority of the Republican Party decided that Mitt Romney was the right person to deal with that emergency. Many conservatives decided that they couldn’t get in line behind a wishy-washy, Mormon RINO, not even in a crisis, and they stayed home.

            I see a rather direct correlation between that situation any my analogy. While it may not be perfect- after all, in the analogy it was my child drowning and your house burning, and in the real situation it was our house burning and conservatives making the heroic decision not to help but stay home despite the dangers of smoke inhalation – the analogy is at least close enough to bring clarity to our understanding of the real world situation. And that, at least so far as I’ve been taught, is the point of an analogy.

            I know my analogy was not perfect. I know that I failed to point out that analogy-me didn’t jump into the fire pond because he can’t swim (and I can- my bad!). But I apparently never learned that rules of analogy were so strict. And in the end, I think the analogy served its purpose by clearly relating the flaws of some very real behaviors. Perhaps it wasn’t a total failure.

            Thanks for your interest in my comment. Please don’t be concerned that you and I will probably never negotiate a change in menu. That’s probably for the best. I, after all, am a poor purveyor of very sad and flawed analogies. You, on the other hand, appear to lose your mind when confronted with anything less than the perfect analogy. The two of us working together certainly wouldn’t be a match made in heaven. And perhaps there’s an analogy there that could start to bring a real-life problem- and solution- into focus.

          • Sheila Warner

            I actually thought your analogy was a good one. I am an Independent, so i am disgusted with both parties, but I was really astonished that the GOP ended up with Mitt Romney as the candidate. Hadn’t it learned its lesson from 2008? And the fact that so many stayed home instead of going to the polls was so disheartening. That, to me, suggested a “I’m taking my ball and going home” attitude. You have to be in it to win it. Now look where we are.

          • sjangers

            I thought it was a pretty good analogy too, Sheila. But one person’s good analogy is sometimes sad and flawed from another person’s perspective. You can’t keep everybody happy all of the time.

            As a moderate Republican, I’ve supported liberal, moderate and conservative Republican candidates. I believe it’s more important to elect people who share my general principles than it is to insist on electing people who are in complete agreement with me. It might be a little frustrating to have to work on building internal consensus before taking action, even occasionally having members of the caucus go their own way, but it sure beats having the other side elect a majority, or President, and take control of the national agenda.

          • Sheila Warner

            I am a moderate as well. I am neither GOP nor Democrat. I am an independent Libertarian. Probably way too moderate for some of my fellow libertarians. I also don’t expect my elected officials to be in 100% agreement with me all of the time. There was a time when honest differences could be worked out. It doesn’t seem that way anymore.

          • sjangers

            I don’t self-identify as a libertarian, Sheila, but I do lean that way a bit. I’m frustrated by the unnecessary growth of government and the tendency of special interest groups to use the power of government to advance their agendas, particularly when at the expense of others’ interests. I’d much rather have individuals find a way to live with each other, working out their differences without sacrificing personal freedoms.

            I don’t know which came first, massive government growth and influence in personal lives or the unwillingness of individuals to seek compromise and cooperation in resolving personal differences, but there does seem to be an interesting correlation between the growth of government and individual expectations that their wants and needs are more important than those of anyone else.

          • Sheila Warner

            You’ll get no argument from me on that one. Excellent points and well stated.

          • Deane Cooper

            @ Sheila and sjangers:
            I had considered begging both of you to stop the charade. However, I never have been good at begging, never really wanted to risk having it follow me around waiting to be employed in some other situation.
            So here it is. I have spent the last few years following trolls around. I find them endlessly fascinating. The quick switches from one alias to another is an art form in itself. I am not a student of the Thesbian arts, but I do enjoy a good show. I tried to stay and watch the responses come back but I found myself bored and sleepy so I left before I normally would have. You two just are not as good at it as others are. Seriously, you screw up too much. I had you guys before I left my first post.
            Sheila:
            Learn your chosen party. Libertarians do not go moderate on a monetary nightmare of a bill like Obama Care. They do not like big government spending, monster sized bills that come with more spending, tax hikes, and an agenda. They don’t lie, cheat and bully their own legislation across the finish line. And they HATE the page count on this bill with a passion. You are no more a Libertarian than sjangers is a moderate Republican.
            sjangers:
            Analogies belong to the left. I’m sorry, but you should have known something as simple as that. If you cannot stop yourself from waxing on about imaginary situations you might want to find another field to play in. We will play along for only so long. And you two had me bowing out before the second pitch.

            Good luck guys

            OOPS!!

            I mean “Break a leg!”

          • Deane Cooper

            What is it? A week later? And you are still going down the road of analogies. I find that to be more of a reflection on you for not having to really suffer yet. You see, those of us who have been suffering all along don’t have any use for analogies. We have actual real time, real world experience in having to deal with the effects of this bill before it was rolled out. I prefer the truth, thank you very much. Analogies are for those who know not the pain and frustration the rest of us are dealing with daily. Please don’t bother trying to make me understand your position any longer. It is clear to me that you will never reciprocate. Go on your way and enjoy your life.
            Know this though….. all of the effort put forth to make the right seem as if the shut-down was something they wanted, has now come back to bite you all in the ass. As Obama continues his assault on the citizens of this nation who are simply trying to keep afloat, I would find somewhere to hunker down and wait it out. He has become even more unbalanced than his non-budgets
            have been.
            Remember, “if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball”.
            Good Luck-

          • sjangers

            Good grief, Deane! We wouldn’t still be on this road of analogies a week (or more) later if you hadn’t waited eleven days to respond to my second post. If you’re tired of the analogies, try going back and reading my original post. I spell out my point pretty clearly there. And the exchanges between you and I that followed that post make the point better than any analogy could.

            I think you are right about one thing. We need to stop this exchange. It’s obvious now that it’s completely pointless.

          • kidwinona

            Deanne , sjangers needs a temperature reading then probably an oxygen mask. Maybe he does not really care like you said and that is what I find is wrong with his analogy . For that analogy to be made shows exactly why conservatives should fight never giving up. And never be distracted by the sick fantasy analogies that only a liberal could have stuck into our ill friend sjanger’s head.

          • Deane Cooper

            kidwinona,
            Appreciate the boost, but these two trolls weren’t worthy of their job here and I couldn’t stop myself from giving them the old pep talk. All of this has made me sleepy.
            Good night.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      I think a conservative can stand on his/her principles and still be smart about it. I think the bayonet metaphor Bernie used pretty well sums up the point.

      • Brian Fr Langley

        I think a better metaphor might be the frog in the pot of water. If the heat rises slowly enough it’ll let itself be boiled to death. Perhaps a smart frog might compromise and negotiate a half degree per hour rise in temperature, rather than 1 degree per hour. In fact the media might call him a frog genius. I on the other hand, would just call him a dead frog. In my metaphor, the waters temperature is already nearly deadly, and some folks still want to negotiate, and compromise?

  • sjangers

    You’re pretty much on target, Bernie. Reagan, like Obama, benefitted from being personally popular with voters. And even Reagan had to make more than a few compromises toward the center in order to maintain the support of the American people and govern effectively. George W. Bush talked a conservative game in Republican primaries, talked compassionate conservatism in the general election, but once elected didn’t really try too hard to govern from the right.

    What Reagan and Bush 43 knew is that you can only lead the American people where they are willing to go. And far right just isn’t anywhere most Americans would ever consider going, even if it was just to visit. It’s no coincidence that Democrats- who despite their many faults really aren’t stupid- will try to paint all of their Republican opponents as far right. They know it increase their chances of getting elected if they can convince voters that their opponents are rigid conservatives.

    • Paul Leuenberger

      Good comment. As I get older, sicker, and more compassionate, I am move further and further to the left of center. I see the far right as a theocracy who are more interested in ones’ personal life and decisions then they are for the good of the people.

      • Deane Cooper

        No dear, the left and the Rinos own that one outright.

  • Kathy

    I totally agree w/Kris & Cash1969. Cruz is doing what he was sent to DC to do. We stand with him.

  • Kris Inchcombe

    Wow… what is it with you guys who are afraid of the consequences of doing the right thing? You’re worried about the establishment rather than consequences of taking a stand. Here’s my comment – “unfollow”.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Kris, People like me love Cruz’s principles and what he has to say, but the reality is that conservatives are forced into a position where they have to be smarter than liberals in order to get what we want. Obamacare (which I vehemently want GONE) is not going to go down under Cruz’s plan.

      It can, however, be dismantled with more opposing votes in Washington. If Republicans held the majority in the Senate, we wouldn’t be in this mess. And the reason they don’t hold the majority in the Senate isn’t because we haven’t had enough true conservatives running for those seats over the past few years.

      We have to do things that work, not just do things that get the base excited.

      • Jeff Webb

        The smart thing to do now would be to change the conditions of the new bill: funding for Obamacare will continue, via a trigger: complete elimination of all exemptions, waivers, and that subsidy that members of congress & their employees got.
        Debt ceiling gets raised, too, triggered by immediate spending cuts.

      • Deane Cooper

        Try backing away from the defeatist gloom and doom think for a change. As long as there are pessimists to poo-poo anything good that someone tries then there will never be any changes. Wisdom says do not prognosticate on what you don’t know. You will be disappointed with the results. No one should aim low. That’s weak and it doesn’t have “we the people” at the front of the conversation.

      • legal eagle

        What are Cruz’s principles? Any policies he’s advocated? Any legislation he’s proposed?

      • Kris Inchcombe

        John – I understand that this tactic wouldn’t work; however, it is symbolic of the frustration that is felt by the constituency. Many of our elected “public servants” neglect their responsibility to serve those who vote for them and often fall prey to the system you’re advocating – you know, vote (R), take over the Senate/House/WH and expect them to do the right thing. What Cruz is doing IS THE RIGHT THING – he’s reminding the career politicians that we’re watching – both with our eyes and our contributions. If we’re worried about damage to the Republican brand – that ship has sailed. I wouldn’t give the party a nickel going forward and will select candidates to support based on their actions, not their promises.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          But this particular symbolic victory would be a tangible defeat for the opposition party’s hopes of gaining enough power to do something real to dismantle Obamacare.

          That’s the point being made here. Cruz isn’t wrong in wanting to do everything he can to try and repeal Obamacare. I just think he’s going about it the wrong way – doing something that would make it LESS likely ultimately dismantle Obamacare.

          • Kris Inchcombe

            Please elaborate – why would what he’s doing make it LESS likely to dismantle Obamacare?

  • Cash1969

    I will put the will of the people up against the “bully-pulpit” any day. The way I see it, we need to put EVERYONE in Congress on the record about funding Obamacare and let the Voters sort it out in 2014. Stop being such a wus! What have we got to loose?

    • Jim Maxedon

      The will of the people is to not defund Obamacare.

      • eric90230

        That’s not what all the opinion polls about ObamaCare say, but, maybe you know better than the opinion experts.

        • sjangers

          Jim is probably right on this, Eric. There’s a lot of skepticism among the American people about parts of the Affordable Care Act, but there doesn’t seem to be any strong consensus in favor of the defunding process.

          • legal eagle

            People are always afraid of change…Medicare was extremely controversial…

          • sjangers

            But what does that mean, Eagle? Ours is supposed to be a representative government. Do you think our representatives should always ignore the will of the people because they are afraid of change?

          • legal eagle

            The will of which people? The majority of seniors on Medicare are against Obamacare…Why should anyone care what seniors think about Obamacare?

          • sjangers

            Because they’re going to be asked to help pay for it. Because, government working the way it does, we may eventually see some regulation creep of the Affordable Care Act into the realm of Medicare. Because they live here, just like you and I, and they have a right to be heard just like the rest of us on anything that government does as representative of the people.

        • Jim Maxedon

          Actually I’ll take the opinion experts word for it. They say that of the 54% who are against Obamacare, only 35% are opposed because it’s too liberal while 19% think it’s not liberal enough. In the meantime more people support it, 43%, than are against it because it’s too liberal.

          And while polls show people don’t want to defund 44-38% it becomes 55% against defunding when shut down or default is included.

          So yeah, I know what the opinion experts are saying.

        • legal eagle

          The overwhelming will of the people was that background checks for gun purchases should be expanded….Did it bother you when the Republicans blocked it?

    • fjwalker1959

      The “will of the people” elected the POTUS twice.

      • Justus

        But you might remember that nearly everyone expected the Supreme Court to declare Obamacare unconstitutional. Someone must have pictures on John Roberts …

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          And if Romney would have been elected, that Supreme Court decision may not have mattered.

          • legal eagle

            Really? What would Romney have done?

      • Deane Cooper

        Voter fraud elected this asshole twice. Wake up and look at the brand new day because it’s coming sooner than you think.

        • NepotismIsDomesticTerrorism

          Coop,

          The Liberal (sic) government is inept and incapable of doing anything right … but adept and capable enough to conduct a massive, nationwide voter fraud scheme not once – but twice! – to elect and later reelect a Communist (sic) Socialist (sic) Kenyon Anti-Colonialist (sic) Muslim (sic) as president?

          Gotta ask: When you walk outside the morning this time of the year and feel a chill in the air and perhaps a breeze, do you believe that it is cold or some sort of Liberal conspiracy to deprive you of the freedom not to wear a coat?

          • Deane Cooper

            Sorry Nep, you are skipping over much of the facts from both elections. That’s alright dear, I realize it is a function you shun, actual truth is something you have been shunning for so long you wouldn’t speak it to save your own life. Moving on…..

        • fjwalker1959

          Of course it did dear. How silly of me to forget anytime a rethuglican looses it’s voter fraud & anytime a Dem loses it’s the will of the people. Remove your tinfoil hat & give up the kool-aid.

          • Deane Cooper

            anytime a dem loses it’s voter intimidation, you mean?

          • fjwalker1959

            Your words not mine.

      • Jeff Webb

        Right now, the will of the people would be not having to deal with Obamacare. So far, it’s only Congress that is enjoying the will of the people. That’s what you can expect from the “party of fairness” nowadays.

    • Deane Cooper

      Hey trolls, bite me! Everyone with any heart is against this bill. You might want to check your number kids, you are out of the loop.

      • fjwalker1959

        Said the troll.

    • legal eagle

      The will of which people?