When Is a Traffic Jam A Greater Threat to Democracy Than an IRS Scandal?

ChristieIt’s good to know that President Obama’s most loyal followers – the so-called mainstream media – have their priorities straight.  As reported by the (conservative) Media Research Center:

“In less than 24 hours, the big three networks have devoted 17 times more coverage to a traffic scandal involving Chris Christie than they’ve allowed in the last six months to Barack Obama’s Internal Revenue Service controversy. Since the story broke on Wednesday that aides to the New Jersey governor punished a local mayor’s lack of endorsement with a massive traffic jam, ABC, CBS and NBC have responded with 34 minutes and 28 seconds of coverage. Since July 1, these same networks managed a scant two minutes and eight seconds for the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups.”

This makes sense, right?  All the IRS did was target political opponents of President Obama.  A top aide to Governor Christie, on the other hand, caused a traffic jam.  Sure it was a massive traffic jam.  And sure the aide was both petty and stupid.  She put the evidence in emails.  But as the Wall Street Journal put it, “ … compared to using the IRS against political opponents during an election campaign, closing traffic lanes for four days is jaywalking.”

But this hasn’t stopped an epidemic of supposed “analysis” speculating about whether Chris Christie is a dead man walking, with some on the left suggesting that no matter what he knew or didn’t know, he was the one who created a culture of corruption which gave his aides the green light to pull their stupid stunt.

This is front page of the New York Daily News:  NY News

But that’s only a tabloid.  What did the venerable New York Times, the Bible of American liberalism (but mostly the primer for the swells on the Upper West Side of Manhattan) have to say about Bridge-gate?

The Times concluded its post-news conference editorial with this:  “At this point, the governor has zero credibility. His office has abused its power, and only a full and conclusive investigation can restore public trust in his administration.”  Zero credibility?  Wow, that would be good news for Hillary Clinton who might have to run against Christie.  But I’m sure that’s not what the Times meant.  Right?

Anyway, it sounds like a federal investigation is in order.  And it may be. It took about 10 seconds for Team Obama to leak a tidbit to the media that the United States attorney is investigating the traffic jam as a criminal matter.  Good to know that Eric Holder would never do anything political.  He’s the Attorney General, after all.

A college pal who lives in New Jersey kept it pithy and got it right.  He emailed me this:

“The contrast with Obama is striking.  Christie fired the senior person on his staff this morning.  Has Obama fired anyone?  Has he accepted responsibility for anything at all?  Of course not.  Everything, everything is someone else’s fault.  We are continuously told that ‘we’re looking into it’ on any issue.  Nothing happens on Benghazi, on the IRS scandal, on Obamacare, etc., etc., ad infinitum.”

As President Obama might say:  Period!

 

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  • Patriot502003

    Although I think that Christie is being railroaded, he is a moderate and I will not vote for him to lead my party. Need Ted/Rand ticket with a strong cabinet, to include West (SecDef) and Ben Carson (Surgeon General).

  • George Williams

    “When Is a Traffic Jam A Greater Threat to Democracy Than an IRS Scandal?

    When it’s more important to demagogue your political opponent than keep consonant with the rule of law.

  • D Parri

    It is absolutely amazing how the liberal left-wingers who support Obama through thick and thin see no wrong in any of his actions carried out over the last five years. It was destined to…and shall…end.

    However, given a hint of blood in the water, those same Obama zealots will stop at nothing in their attempt to make mud stick somewhere on the wall somewhere, even when a republikaner faces the public, atones for their foibles or associations with such, and not only promises but gives an update to the corrective actions they have imposed.

    Attack!…oh ye democrats of a singular purpose and cause. But ne’er shall a cry for shame be heard as the pendulum swings and reorients those poles of truth and honesty far away from thy chosen camp. As in all things mortal, the circle of life will turn and the currently favored will grow in signs of disfavor until the belly of public sway will spew forth and continue on its journey and consummate yet another cycle.

  • T Ko

    The ring of ‘Hussein‘, ‘Obama‘, and ‘Benghazi‘ just seems to go together for obvious reasons. Comparing “Bridge-Gate” to Obama’s myriad scandals is like comparing a burp to Superstorm Sandy. What a joke.

    Prima facie support is found in the fact that this is the most pro-Moslem administration ever. Directed by executive decree, the Justice Department will no longer be able to use religious orientation or national origin as a factor in risk assessment and terrorist profiling.

    It is certainly reassuring to know that all radical Islamists and Middle Eastern nationals will be overlooked according to national security standards set by a leader whose middle name is identical to the name of the leader of Iraq who precipitated our actions against Iraq and led to an eight year war and the deaths of over 4,300 U.S. troops.

    Also, don’t forget that this leader sat and listened for over twenty years to a pastor who was known to shout out “It’s not God Bless America, it’s God Damn America!” …a patriot’s cry if I’ve ever heard one.

    Add to this mix Obama’s meaningless claims of a Syrian “red line”, and “substantial progress” in the Iranian Nuclear Treaty, there is only one conclusion to draw. This president has not been good for America, and with the intentional and planned demise of a healthcare system that has been second to none Obama’s “Fundamental Transformation” of America is remaining on-track.

    Did anyone ever ask what he intended to transform our nation into?

  • T Ko

    Message to those who want to put the Benghazi investigation to bed.

    Forget it Obama-Zombies, it ain’t going away. The 2016 presidential elections will feature review after review of the nastiest and most vile perspectives that can be presented regarding Hillarious Clinton. It will not wait until 2016, or 2015 to start, though.
    Sifting through the dirt will not be an enjoyable thing for anyone, but watching the mud stick to the persons responsible will provide some satisfaction in this fight for justice and executive accountability.

    It should be interesting to see Dem peck on Dem…and watch the whole flock scatter!

  • T Ko

    IRS, Obama’s Abuse of Powers
    With the stakes are potentially another term in the Whitehouse, or a first term for a qualified replacement, then amassing all the resources legally available are to be expected.

    What is not legal and should at no time be allowed is to use government resources under the direction of the incumbent party to act in some way that inhibits the fair political competition of the opposing party. Obama was the one responsible for the direction of the Treasury Department, which was responsible for the direction of the IRS.

    Obama and camp directed the IRS to restrict the ability of republican forces to give support to Romney or other opposition forces of Obama. This is unmitigated abuse of powers, a criminal offense.

    • Ted

      What hypocrital BS even by your nonexistant stds. Besides your desperate and partisan desire to believe that Obama ordered the IRS to retaliate or punish his opponents who had no right to be tax exempt there’s no proof that he ordered them to do anything is there? In fact all the evidence suggests otherwise. Funny that to your goofball side when Obama says he had no knowledge of something he’s guilty of something like incompetence or obfuscation. But when Christie says it and then does nothing to investigate it, he’s innocent. Just another in a long and partisan list of dbl stds on your part. You better hope he’s innocent or the fat guy’s toast! By that partisan yardstick didn’t Christie’s administration use gov resources to retaliate by closing those lanes at the bridge? Which is exactly what you’re accusing Obama of isn’t it?

      • Wheels55

        While I don’t believe Obama ordered the IRS to do that stuff nor do I think he ordered our security to stand down from defending our people in Benghazi, he is the guy in charge. He has done nothing to find what happened and truly hold people responsible. He is a lousy leader. He is truly incompetent…or he simply does not care (I think both).

        • Ted

          Sorry to disabuse you of this but unlike Christie who didn’t investigate anything until he essentially had no other choice although be did sarcastically reply when first questioned, Obama ordered the IRS investigated and prematurely called it outrageous. The best shuck and jive dodge Christie could say during his state of the state was the generic BS “Mistakes were made!” Whatever that means?

          • Josh

            Outrageous.

            Well, okay, then. That settles that. He called it outrageous.

            Shoo. We can finally put this to bed.

          • Ted

            There’s no chance the cons will put this or anything else to rest. It’s not in their DNA. Especially Benghazi which they hope will have enough legs to last till 2016 so they better pace themselves. Their only problem is that they aren’t scandals.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>There’s no chance the cons will put this or anything else to rest. It’s not in their DNA.<<

            Since you find it wrong when people won't put anything to rest, I'll take that to mean you're no longer going to bring up President Bush. Let's see how long you can manage that.

          • Ted

            No free lunches pal! Ok, you stop the bullshit w/ Benghazi where the latest report like ALL THE PREVIOUS REPORTS said there was absolutely NO coverup along w/ the completely bogus IRS “scandal” plus the ad populem crap about the “evil” msm. And I promise not to bring up W’s failing to protect us on 9/11, Iraq, the 07 housing bubble, the economic collapse of 08, Katrina, the $800 billion Medicare Part D Gov handout that all the rt wing nuts gladly took or the $5.07 trillion W’s spending added to the national debt. Now, lets see who outlasts whom?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Watch the language, Ted.

          • Ted

            Since when can’t you say Benghazi? That’s your side’s favorite word! Answer? When it’s not a coverup. And all this hubbub just because you still can’t deal with having a young, good looking, erudite black guy in the White House.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Poor leadership and incompetence are color-blind, Ted. I’m sorry you have such a hard time judging the president by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.

          • Ted

            Just so I’m clear, I can’t use the word bullshit? How’s BS or bovine excrement? I’d be hard-pressed to find a more appropriate word for your unsubstantive rants?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            One more time and you’re gone, Ted.

          • Ted

            Atta boy! When you can’t beat em, ban em. Take your ball and go home. How typically and predictably rt wing nut of you. I’m only surprised you were able to resist this genetic urge as long as you did but in the end reality kicked in, didn’t it? Think how much better it would be for the ideological purity of this blog? Then those seeking to have their fears affirmed and assuaged and play “ain’t it awful” w/ other like minded and fear based types will know just where to go as you hold their philosophical and political hands. Then you can tell them all they’re right to be as freaked out as they are. And while you’re at it, go ahead and give em their country back! Pffffft!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Keep your potty mouth under control, Ted, and you’ll be just fine.

          • Ted

            So, you’ve added condescension to your list of traits? Are we cross? So, if I opined thusly, “Consume dirt and expire” we’re good right? Heaven forbid I violate any of your linguistic sensibilities? Speaking of which it makes me wonder how many F bombs were uttered from the Baggers after the two elections that your President won? Lets see? That would be one F bomb for each Romney voter wouldn’t it or 47% of all voters?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>So, you’ve added condescension to your list of traits? Are we cross?

            Serious question: Are you on something?

            It’s very simple, Ted. No one will ever get banned from this site for being a liberal or routinely making ridiculous accusations (lucky for you). People will get banned, however, for incessant swearing. If you honestly can’t comprehend that, again, there’s not much else I can do for you.

          • Jeff Webb

            You managed to not bring up President Bush for almost a whole day–congratulations.

            As much as you’re in favor of it, looks like putting things to rest just isn’t in your DNA, is it?

          • Drew Page@comcast.net

            Sez you.

          • Sheila Warner

            You missed the part where Christie questioned his staff about the bridge closing before the emails were uncovered. He took them at their word that no one in the government was responsible. Was he duped? Sure. Does that say something about his judgment? Absolutely. Do I believe he will learn from all of this and be more astute in the future? H3ll, yes!

            As a life long NJ resident, I believe that Chris Christie is the best governor we’ve had in decades. We had to endure McGreevy, Whitman, Florio, and Corzine. And, Brendan Byrne, who gave us the state income tax, then had to apologize for lying about raising it.. As I recall, it was to be temporary, and we’ve had it since 1976.

            I’ll take Christie over any of the other previous listed governors any day of the week.

          • Ted

            So you should be an expert on graft and corruption! And what will you claim if it turns out he was complicit in the lane closings? I’ll awAit your mea culpa should that be the case?

          • Sheila Warner

            I’ll be awaiting your mea culpa when the governor is cleared.

          • Ted

            There you go again! I never said he was guilty. I asked about your mea culpa should he be guilty because you wishful thinkingly think he’s innocent. I said “if it turns out that he’s complicit”? Responding to your posts is an absolute waste of time.

          • Sheila Warner

            I never used the word “guilt”. What is the definition of complicit? That’s your word, not mine. Right now there is no evidence of wrongdoing on his part. I think I laid out my reasoning quite well. Maybe the waste of time is mine? By suggesting you are waiting for a mea culpa from me, you indicate your assumption that the governor was involved.

            I’ll be awaiting your mea culpa when Chris Christie is cleared. I’m not ashamed to say that I believe him.

          • Ted

            You’ve convinced me, you really are this clueless. Go be insipid w/ someone else.

          • Ted

            Do you mean the part where he “said” he interviewed them and give them all one hour to tell his chief of staff what they knew? How odd that it was only later that he changed his story to include himself being informed? For the believer no proof is necessary, is it?

          • Sheila Warner

            For the nonbeliever, no evidence is necessary, right?

          • Ted

            You even screwed that phrase up.

          • Sheila Warner

            How so? By parroting your words right back at you? So, then, who screwed up? It most certainly was not I who did so.

          • Ted

            The expression is “For the believer, no proof is necessary. For the nonbeliever none is enough”.

          • George Williams

            “Obama ordered the IRS investigated and prematurely called it outrageous.”

            Some would call that putting one’s foot in one mouth, which Obama has a habit of. Talk first and then repent is what Obama does best. He did that when he opened his mouth and criticized the police about the arrest of Henry Louis Gates in , Cambridge, Mass. Gates was found breaking into his home and temporarily detained until it was ascertained that he was the owner. The police were vindicated and Obama had egg all over his face. Such is the habit of the close minded racialists who make judgments about others without actually caring to familiarize themselves with the facts. Let me take that back, never have we ever heard Obama repent.

            However, I disagree with the administration. The White House claimed from the get go that it was a rogue IRS office in Detroit. It was subsequently found that the direction for these investigations came out of Washington, from an office of an Obama appointee. It is widely known that although the Obama IRS investigated many new potential non-profits, including Democratic, the conservative ones were beaten to death with speciously relevant questions and had judgments on their applications delayed to after Obama was elected. Obama appointed a lawyer from Holder’s DoJ civil rights division, an agency that is known to be full of leftist lawyer appointees who are very partisan. It’s very odd that a civil rights lawyer would be used for this purpose, as that’s outside the realm of their normal course of duties. This manifest strangeness disappeared after it was discovered that she is one of his political campaign contributors. None of us who’ve watched this administration, one that has the most politically corrupt DoJ in the history of the country are surprised. Only Obama’s doggedly sycophantic supporters do not care about this perversion of our national ethic.

        • Ted

          Isn’t Christie also the guy in charge? No one on the right’s saying that, not surprisingly.

          • Wheels55

            Several things wrong with your point (if there is one):
            * I’m not talking about Christie
            * You assume I take the role of sticking up for any Republican, including Christie. I do not
            * Christie, right or wrong, looked into his issue and fired someone.
            * Obama puts in charge of investigations some very partisan people. Never any real results,
            * Over a year ago, Obama promised to hunt down and bring to justice the people responsible for the Benghazi attacks. Nothing has happened except a news organization sat down and interviewed the head guy. Strange??

            So, is Obama incompetent or he just thinks Americans are too stupid to care (no offense, Ted)?

          • Ted

            Try holding Christie to the same stds as Obama when you say he’s the guy in charge, huh? Or for when they say they didn’t know about something? And where’s the credit for Obama getting bin Laden in less than 3 yrs when W couldn’t get him in 7 yrs as Obama promised? And how many terrorists did W kill in his 8 yrs?

          • George Williams

            What strategy do you attribute to Obama, different from that of Bush, that he contributed to catching Bin Ladin. We’re all ears as to what Obama did, other than carry out the standard practice of our military and intelligence agencies in persisting in their effort to get him? The truth is that had Bush had a third term, Obama would have been gotten on his watch. Perhaps you’ll credit Obama with the sun rising on the first day of his term in office as well.

          • George Williams

            Obama backed loans to energy green energy companies who had as major investors numerous campaign bundlers. This is known as conflict of interest, or pay to play. If the Department of Justice wasn’t run by Barack Obama, his administration would be under investigation and subject to indictment. What’s worse is that some of these companies were known high risk investments and it was no surprise when they failed, leaving the taxpayer on the hook for billions of dollars to banks for having back the loans. Wasn’t Obama the man in charge when this happened? I suggest that this is far more significant than a sin that Christie was alleged to have done, but of course, you rebranded communists do not care as you have no ethical conscience except when it suits your purpose to demagogue your opposition.

        • Sheila Warner

          President Obama is the Commander in Chief. It was completely his call whether or not to attempt a rescue or to stand down. If he did neither, he abdicated his responsibility. The military is bound by his orders, not the other way around. If, as the President said, he ordered his military to do whatever was necessary to save the consulate, why was it then acceptable for then Sec of State Panetta to say that it was too dangerous to send more troops to Benghazi? Just who was in charge that night?

      • George Williams

        Ted said: ” Besides your desperate and partisan desire to believe that Obama ordered the IRS to retaliate or punish his opponents who had no right to be tax exempt there’s no proof that he ordered them to do anything is there?”

        No, we expect that he wore gloves when he did his burglary said inspector Dupois.

        “‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,’”

        Barack Obama

        Obama told us what he was going to do, and I believe him. That’s the kind of man he is, like a mafia don who delegates to trusted individuals who know what he wants. That’s how he keeps plausible deniability.

  • zanzibar

    Concise, cogent article explaining why so many Americans are frustrated with the partisanship of the media. These chattering heads have no bottom to their incessant need to attack anything the right of center.

    • legal eagle

      More victimization from another right wing whiner…

      • zanzibar

        You make a powerful accusation and argument. Actually, you make neither. One imagines you are received warmly by the leftists infiltrating American society.

        Good liars are always received warmly in their ranks.

        • legal eagle

          Thanks for sharing your paranoia with me…

        • Ted

          Nice attempt to try and take the moral and political high ground. Sounds like you almost believe your own bovine excrement. Almost…..

      • Tim Ned

        Actually the voting record of the MSM clearly points out exactly what Zanzibar is talking about. I haven’t seen recent surveys but those from the 80′s and 90′s clearly point out the the MSM vote democrat. The only point in history I saw different from these is when the MSM vote was split when Reagan ran against Carter then Mondale. Even a split vote is a high democrat number based upon how the country voted for Mondale in comparison of how the media voted.

        I could care less about the commentators opinion but when it comes to news we conservatives see a liberal leaning MSM. I don’t believe for the most part they do it purposely, it’s based upon the bubble they live in as Bernie writes about.

        But you try to deny this bubble because it goes against your radical left wing agenda.

        • Ted

          So when you don’t like someone pointing out where you’re wrong you simply give them some bogus name like “radical lt wing agenda”. Ah, spoken like a true Bircher.

          • Tim Ned

            Obviously I need to keep my comments to a single short paragraph. To much for the left to absorb.

          • Ted

            That’s not the problem. The real problem is that BS is BS. Yours.

          • tim ned

            Look up the surveys if you think its BS. Your one liners are wearing thin quickly.

      • Drew Page

        If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is.
        Liberal ‘progressives’ have turned victimization into an art form. Identify a group of like individuals (young people, women, gays, minorities, union members, the poor, non-Christians and illegal aliens) tell them how they have been victimized, blame the conservatives, the Republicans, the Tea Party or George Bush for their victimization and promise them how you are going to punish the “enemy”.
        I would think you would be happy a ‘right-winger’ was claiming to be a victim. Here is your opportunity to convert him to your way of thinking.

        • legal eagle

          I’m not trying to convert anyone…That’s for religious leaders….There is a vast difference between advocating for greater legal rights and whining about a vague concept such as the “mainstream” media….

  • Sam

    Chicken or egg, which came first? The folks who prefer a story like bridgegate or the media that would weather promote this story? I think they are both to blame. It is funnier when Republicans do something stupid and the networks are selling ratings. You can go back to David and Goliath. Most people will root for David. Democrats are the righteous underdogs and republicans are well, you know.

    • Josh

      Chicken.

      • brickman

        Sorry it was the egg. See above.

    • KStrett

      This isn’t about the public preferring a good bridge scandal over an IRS scandal or the media simply attempting to get higher raters. The media overwhelming favors liberals and liberal issues over conservatives/ conservative issues. I would say the media has gone from being biased in favor of liberals to the propaganda arm for liberals.

      If the media was simply after ratings, why aren’t they copying Fox news? Fox usually gets much better ratings than any other cable news network.

      “Democrats are the righteous underdogs and republicans are well, you know.”

      The democrats are in control. They have the Presidency and a majority in the senate. The underdog would be the republicans.

      You are also assuming the majority of the public believes your narrative about the democrats being the underdog and the republicans are Goliath. The reality is the democrats want and have a Goliath sized government.

      • legal eagle

        and the Republicans have the House and the Supreme Court so actually no party is in charge…

        • KStrett

          The republicans have SCOTUS? How was Obama-care deem constitutional?

          • legal eagle

            90% of the SCOTUS decisions have been 5-4 by the Republican appointed Justices….90% is not good enough for the cultist, they need 100% agreement with their cult leaders like Limbaugh and Hannity…

          • Tim Ned

            How about the 4 ideologues on the left that continue to vote liberal. Obviously if the court was 5-4 liberal and they voted with their ideology as the 4 do today you, moveon, thinkprogress, and your other cult liberals would be tickled pink.

            Roberts voted based upon his interpretation and I respect that. The Obama administration clearly, and let me repeat “Clearly” lied to the American public that the “fee” imposed by those that would not purchase health care was a penalty. They creatively, or sneakily, presented it to the high court as a tax as the key component of the case was pertaining to interstate commerce.

            I believe Roberts voted on this decision based upon the fact it is a tax because it is a tax. One component of the health care act that makes it the largest tax increase in American history based upon Obama math. And it appears that this fact will hold true, and exceed even these expectations, based upon the statistics of the number of single young people that are “not” signing up for Obamacare.

            Your summary is ill in intelligence and absent of logic. It reflects the talking points of the most left wing websites that tried to portray Roberts decision for personal purposes. I do not agree with his decision. But I respect SCOTUS and the course our founding fathers set to use a high court for such matters. All you care about is your tax and spend liberal agenda.

          • legal eagle

            My original comment was that Republicans held the majority on the SCOTUS…What exactly do you disagree with?

          • Tim Ned

            There are two issues I am setting the record straight on. 1) That the four liberal justices most consistently votes liberal. One, Kennedy, has been a tie breaker and recently Roberts went with Obamacare. So my point here is that your statement that Republicans rule SCOTUS is hog wash to be polite. 2) SCOTUS has a defined place and it is not a role in government. They are granted the power by the US constitution to check the power of the President and Congress. They also serve as the final judgement of the land in terms of laws of congress and the constitution. They have no role in the operation of government and politics. So once again your statement that republicans control SCOTUS is hog wash and the ruling on Obamacare proves this.

            And my last point is that you would be tickled pink if SCOTUS was 100 percent liberal!

          • T Ko

            Don’t hold your breath waiting for the Weasel…he’d love to be tickled.

          • legal eagle

            You’d rather be tickled bending over in the shower…

          • KStrett

            Just because a republican appointed a supreme court justice doesn’t mean they use the original intent of constitution as the barometer for their judicial jurisprudence.

          • T Ko

            Legal Weasel is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.

            Would that make him a racist?

          • Integrity

            Nice to see that SCOTUS has the wisdom to determine when a fetus becomes a “viable” human being. Source for your numbers please. QED

          • T Ko

            This comes from the ‘cult’ that he belongs to, i.e., the OBAMA-ZOMBIES…..

          • legal eagle

            It’s called freedom of choice….What numbers do you want sourced?

          • Integrity

            Gosnell will be glad to hear that. How about the numbers you cited above? QED

          • legal eagle

            Gosnell?

          • legal eagle

            Obamacare was deemed constitutional because Roberts broke with his right wing ideologues to actually make a legally based decision instead of a political one…

          • KStrett

            Do you believe it is constitutional for the government to implement a tax penalty for anyone who doesn’t own a gun?

          • legal eagle

            Yes

          • KStrett

            If that is true, you would also have to believe that the government could implement a tax penalty for anyone who is overweight, correct?

          • legal eagle

            Maybe….define “overweight”?

          • tim Ned

            Ask Bloomberg!

          • T Ko

            How about the ability of the President to delay implementation of a tax law. SCOTUS deemed the penalty a tax in order to be able to hear the ACA case.

            So, when did the President become the branch of government entrusted to levy taxes? To change the implementation of those taxes?

            Sounds very unconstitutional to me.

          • legal eagle

            It sounds unconstitutional to you? Based upon what article of the constitution?

          • Ted

            As unconstitutional as all those voter suppresion bills? Or are you the kind of strict constructionist that it’s only ok when your side does it?

          • legal eagle

            The fact that you are allowed to post on this site is, in my opinion, unconstitutional.

          • legal eagle

            Yes…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            If Obama does it, it’s constitutional. Pretty much sums up your standpoint, huh?

          • legal eagle

            POTUS doesn’t legislate tax policy….huh?

          • Sheila Warner

            Sure he does. When waiving the mandate for certain groups, they then avoid the penalty….oops! I mean the tax, as John Roberts reminded us in his decision.

          • legal eagle

            You should stick to your suppossed expertise on everything New Jersey…

          • Sheila Warner

            I have expertise in many things. Most people do.

          • legal eagle

            An opinion does not constitute expertise…

          • Sheila Warner

            You get the last word. I’m done with you on this article. The horse has long ago died.

          • Wheels55

            John, you know you are typing at someone who’s job it is to act like a liberal idiot. By the way Legal, you should get a merit increase in pay.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            He’s awfully good at his job. No doubt.

          • Ted

            And to your side if Obama does it it’s unconstitutional. Amazing how you always miss the irony of your statements! I ought to be used to it by now.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            The irony of MY statements? Ted, it would be ironic if I was the one making such statements. I’m not.

            I don’t speak for “my side.” That’s your hyper-partisan view of the world that’s bleeding through. I speak for myself. Please point out where I’ve been calling Obama’s actions unconstitutional. And once you come up empty, revisit what the word “irony” because I don’t think you know what it means.

          • Ted

            Then why do you keep using Hannity and Rash Windbag talking pts just so you can “speak for yourself”?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Ted, I don’t even know what their talking points are. I don’t listen or watch either.

          • Ted

            Then you suffer the same malady as they do. So who do you get your “facts” from? Alex Jones, Savage or Levin? You can’t make up crap like that up, that would be too coincidental.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. So you decide to go even further right? Nice guess.

            Ted, try reading my columns if you want to know I think, and where I get my news. Randomly spouting out right-wing radio show hosts and pretending that I share their philosophies is a pretty dopey exercise.

          • Ted

            So where do you get your “fact” from? Who you listen to? You seem to have a penchant for guys named Goldberg–Bernie and Jonah?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I answered this question for you like two days ago, Ted. Is your memory honestly that short?

          • Ted

            Sheesh! Don’t be so absolutely clueless! Reread my comments. I said “your side” claimed that everything Obama does is unconstitutional after you specifically said whatever he does is, per the libs, constitutional. Try claiming you didn’t say that?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Good lord.

            I was talking directly to YOU, Ted Stulz, not your side. You applied “my side’s” supposed statements to me in order to say I was the one being ironic.

            Get it now?

          • Ted

            Thx for proving once again the adage that you can’t fix stupid. My work is done here.

          • Integrity

            You still have work to do. John is still trying to fix you. QED

          • Ted

            I’ve had no more success fixing you as I have him. When logic and facts and reason fail to move you two I’m out of ideas.

          • Integrity

            Try saying something that actually makes sense. Use a few big words to really make your point. QED

          • KStrett

            You must also believe, the government could implement a tax on conservatives, correct?

            The government could have a tax that only effects conservative talk radio shows or tea party groups. You would have to believe that is constitutional?

          • legal eagle

            I don’t….That’s discriminatory on the basis of political belief…What’s your point….Talk radio shows are taxed on a corporate level,. Tea Party groups, I would assume, don’t make a profit…

          • KStrett

            That doesn’t make any sense. If it is constitutional for the government to tax people for being over weight, the government can certainly tax a group or people for holding an opinion they don’t like.

            Think about the logistics of taxing overweight people:

            Every citizens weight and height would be sent in to some government entity, BMI would be calculated, and citizens who are over the BMI would be hit with a tax.

            If the government has the right to do that, it follows logically it can tax people for not eating the way the government wants people to eat.

            The government then has the right to know everything everyone in the country is eating.

            Does that sound constitutional to you?

            You have stated that you believe it is constitutional to do this! The government can collect every citizen’s weight and tax them if it is over what the government deems acceptable but the government can’t tax speech or groups it doesn’t like?

          • legal eagle

            Your example is totally hypothetical and a bit absurd….Firstly, the government can’t force you to have your weight taken so how would they get your BMI? What exactly is your point?

          • KStrett

            You said it was permissible for the government to tax people for being over weight. If you choose not to participate in the government weigh in, you get taxed even if you aren’t over weight.

            This makes absolutely no sense with your stance of taxing political thought or groups. If it is discriminatory to tax conservative organizations, it must be discriminatory to tax over weight people too.

            What is to stop the government from making the tax so high it will bankrupt anyone who doesn’t go along with the government’s wishes?

          • legal eagle

            Taxes are passed by the elected representatives of the legislative branches of government…do you believe it would make a lot of sense for said representatives to pass laws which would cause them to be voted out of office?

          • legal eagle

            You are attempting to put words in my mouth..I said the government can tax people for not eating a certain way….
            I assume that your use of the phrase ‘it follows” means it follows for your illogical and paranoid thought process?

          • KStrett

            If it is permissible for the government to tax people for not eating the way the government wants, how do you think the government will implement that? How will the government know what you are eating?

            You would have to report to them everything you buy for food and everything you eat.

            ” it follows for your illogical and paranoid thought process?”

            How am I being illogical?

            The founders of this country realized the nature of government was to grow and take more and more control.

            This is why the constitution is mainly a constraint on government power.

            Do you think the founders of this country were illogical and paranoid?

            Your ideas of what is constitutional don’t really jive to well with the notion of constraining government, do they?

          • legal eagle

            The U.S. Constitution attempts to set up a system of checks and balances…It is not “mainly a constraint on government power”.
            The U.S. Constitution was written as a compromise between competing state interests…
            Do you know what the phrase “pretzel logic” means? Look it up…

          • KStrett

            Your position is as long is it is called a tax, the government can tax any behavior it wants, which ostensibly makes the government all powerful.

          • Sheila Warner

            It is precisely the ability of the government’s ability to tax which makes it so dangerous. It’s why we fought the Revolution–taxation without representation. Taxes used as punitive measures to keep the rabble in line. We’re living under an Administration who sees nothing wrong with such a practice.

          • KStrett

            The scarey thing is the SCOTUS affirmed the constitutionality of government taxing behavioral. If a republican came into office and starting taxing the behavior of liberals, I doubt L. Eagle he would be making the same points.

          • legal eagle

            You’re being , I assume, purposely vague….Governments have been taxing behavior for many years ie. tobacco, alcohol and gasoline…No one has to pay the tax unless you use the products..

          • KStrett

            You are conflating products with human behavior. There is a difference between taxing cigarettes and taxing smokers.

            You have already conceded you believe it is constitutional to tax human behavior. You have to believe the government has no constraints because they can tax any behavior they don’t like, hence forcing American citizens to behave the way the government wants.

          • legal eagle

            The government can influence behavior by tax policy…They cannot force you to comply…You’re argument is interesting but I fail to see what specific behavior you are referring to….I’m glad to discuss specifics but discussing hypotheticals is a waste of time…

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          The Republicans have the Supreme Court? The existence of Obamacare proves you wrong.

          • legal eagle

            If you had the ability to research the decisions of the Roberts court you would see that this is the most Conservative court in the past 100 years….of course you would have to do a little research to know that which, it would appear, is beyond your pay grade…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. Legal Eagle advocating for research. That’s rich.

          • legal eagle

            Wouldn’t want you bothering with those pesky facts…

          • legal eagle

            You wish you were rich…..keep buying lottery tickets…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Quite possibly the worst comeback ever. Nicely done.

          • legal eagle

            Would you like to know the facts or would that be too painful for you?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I’m quite familiar with the facts, legal. The Supreme Court is essentially evenly divided right now – 4 generally conservative, 4 generally liberals, and a swing vote in Kennedy. Ironically, it was Roberts (not Kennedy) who gave us Obamacare because he was afraid of perceived partisanship. That mistake will cost us for many years to come.

          • legal eagle

            Only in your world of ideological fantasy would Anthony Kennedy not be considered a reliable Conservative vote. He was nominated by Reagan after his disastrous choice of Bork was withdrawn…Compared to Bork , Kennedy is a left wing radical…LOL

          • Ted

            After the SCOTUS’s other decisions of late like Citizen’s United and undoing the Voter Rights bill you cherry picking the ACA decision renders it purely anecdotal. But A for effort.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            My point is that if the Republicans “had” the Supreme Court (which legal stated to suggest that they had partisan-majority rule), Obamacare would have never passed.

            Referencing their most consequential decision in many many years is hardly cherry-picking.

          • Ted

            It is when you ignore all the others to cite only one hence it’s anecdotal on your part.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            The others pale in comparison to a ruling that affects 1/5 of the U.S. economy. Any conclusion that the Republicans have a partisan hold on the Supreme Court crumbled the day Obamacare was upheld.

          • Ted

            Says you.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Yeah. Says me.

          • Ted

            Yep, it’s been a bad time to be a Republican of late, your side not getting its way and all. In fact, finding someone who admits to it is like finding someone who voted for Nixon. Also, it sounds like you’re all for judicial activism when Scalia calls the shots.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Also, it sounds like you’re all for judicial activism when Scalia calls the shots

            Says the guy always complaining that people are putting words in his mouth. lol.

          • Ted

            Hence the term “sounds like”. You are beyond dense.

          • Tim Ned

            Says me too.

      • Ted

        And you’d be wrong. Funny how it’s your side that mindlessly swallows all those crazy, chain emails w/out vetting them while then cluelessly passing them on.

        • KStrett

          Ted, could you be more specific? I have no idea what you are talking about?

          • Ted

            And I don’t see that changing…..

          • Ted

            The msm is the propaganda arm of of the Dems? Why because you merely wish it were? No, that would be Fuxx Snooze. And it’s your side to whom the “facts” are whatever you wish them to be to support your fear based narratives. Hence my comment recognizing your side’s propensity for getting your “facts”‘from those crazy, made up, 24/7, chain emails you guys love to send around as the truth. Clear now?

          • KStrett

            Ted, a politician who was former member of the KKK goes onto national telivision and says the n-word, what should happen to the politician and should the media make a big deal of the person’s comments?

          • Sheila Warner

            How about slamming the news program that would be stupid enough to have a former member of the KKK. He should be vetted to see if he is still a racist. If he is, then the channel sure is dumb to showcase him.

          • KStrett

            If the politician said the n-word on national TV but had a (D) at the end of his name and there was no outcry from the media, you would agree that would a pretty good example of media bias, would you not?

          • Sheila Warner

            Absolutely!

          • KStrett

            Ted, doesn’t believe the media is biased toward the left but this actually happened.

    • brickman

      The egg came first. You’re using an outdated paradox. The egg was used by the creature that evolved into a chicken.:-)

      • Josh

        But the egg was just an egg until the chicken cracked out.

        And just to keep with the theme so this doesn’t get deleted, here are some important keywords for this blog: Socialist, communism, Benghazi, usurper.

        • brickman

          Eggs were used by creatures before chickens showed up. The point I’m trying to make is that there is a correct answer and that people who think that there are two just haven’t put enough thought into it.:-)

          • Josh

            I’ve never really delved that far into cutsie colloquialisms. And while I certainly can’t speak for everyone to use that phrase, I would venture a guess that they’re not really dissecting it for meaning. They’re just using the popular phrase to make a point. There’s a correct answer, but that defeats the purpose of the toss-up, let-’er-go connotation it so often implies.

            I like to spam “chicken” when I see it, just to troll. Though i can’t bust balls for its usage.

            Now I’ve delved too far into it. But I will protest it being “outdated.” If you want a good one to go after, get on those sportscasters and players who constantly say “at the end of the day.” I can find a gang of quibble fodder in that on a glance, but I can’t take it down alone! It’s too powerful.

          • brickman

            It’s outdated in the sense that my parent’s generation wasn’t taught enough science to understand how false it is.

            My pet peeve is the use of the term ” moral compass” . A compass doesn’t point to true North and true North’s position is constantly changing even reversing at times.:-)

  • rune

    all you defenders of diminished irs coverage: let’s consider that Christie took action, publicly addressed the situation, fired the perpetrator….now tell me, who has Obama fired? That’s why the IRS scandal should still be news.

    • brickman
      • Jeff Webb

        Miller was already about to leave office when the scandal hit. You may be right about Paz, but there is no official statement by Obama or anyone else that she was fired.

        • brickman

          He was FIRED.His work history shows that he was fired. As far as Paz, if you can’t trust Glenn Beck’s website, who can you trust? To me nobody means not one person. It doesn’t mean ” Nobody shot Abe Lincoln last night, EXCEPT John Wilkes Booth.”

          The FBI found that there was no evidence (so far) of any criminal wrongdoing as regards this matter. We’ll see if they reach the same conclusion about the bridge.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>He was FIRED.His work history shows that he was fired.<<

            I wasn't suggesting otherwise. I meant demanding that someone resign when he's already leaving in 3 weeks is relatively meaningless.

          • brickman

            I’ve been in politics. Firing someone who is causing your career or campaign grief is always a no brainer and doesn’t show character the way you folks think it does.

          • legal eagle

            Being a dog catcher does not mean you have been in politics…LOL

          • brickman

            Wasn’t a dog catcher but I will stick up for them. You don’t see many packs of feral dogs anymore:-)

            Maybe the pythons in Florida took care of them there, maybe gators in parts of the South….:-)

          • T Ko

            And right you are!

    • T Ko

      Just a thought, although CC has been scrutinized unduly when compared to Obama-Devil (OD) and all of his ‘phony scandals’

  • brickman

    As we speak both CNN and MSNBC are broadcasting Christie’s state of the state speech, giving its audience a chance to hear Christie unfiltered. Fox News has left the speech to do a story about Justin Bieber. Oh, that liberal media bias.

    • Tim Ned

      What better would CNN or MSNBC offer for those time slots?

      • brickman

        Talking heads conversing about Justin Bieber?

        • Tim Ned

          I’m just saying with CNN and MSNBC ratings, they probably made a wise business decision to broadcast a state of the state address.

          • brickman

            If the cable news stations wanted ratings they would broadcast SpongeBob SquarePants. It has higher ratings than CNN, MSNBC and Fox News Channel.

          • Tim Ned

            If I owned Time Warner stock I would most happy if CNN put SpongeBob in place of some of their programs.

          • legal eagle

            If you owned Time Warner stock you’d be making enough money to pay for your cable bill…

          • Tim Ned

            Depends when you buy it. Besides your comment is totally unrelated to this thread. My point was that CNN would do a lot better with SpongeBob in place of some of the existing programs.

          • brickman

            SpongeBob has a larger audience than ANY show on Fox News, CNN or MSNBC. Why do insist on exempting Fox from these comments?

          • Tim Ned

            Not exempting Fox. I believe that cable news has a right based upon business decisions to show what they want. I suspect that Fox, if they presumed they would get larger audiences showing Christie’s state of the state, they would have done it. CNN ratings are in the tank. MSNBC is better but Fox is the leader. I have seen in the past that Fox has avoided other news conference types of programs and continued on with their regular scheduled programming. By the way was watching CNN last night and had to hear about Bieber and quickly switched. In this regard, I’m with you that this is the news to me that is not news worthy. But to some it may be.

          • brickman

            All three have miserable ratings, the American People have different interests than the political class.

          • Tim Ned

            Actually in looking at purchasing Fox stock, which I haven’t done yet, they are very happy with their ratings and advertising revenue.

          • legal eagle

            Another moronic statement….Fox stock has been a dog…

          • Tim ned

            This conversation just went way over your head. I highly recommend you stay out of the stock market.

  • brickman

    The study Bernie quotes measures stories on the IRS scandal starting on July1. The only trouble is the IRS scandal started on May 10. I know that news tends to cover stories when they happen, not start 52 days later.

    • Tim Ned

      I’n not sure of your point here but the study is clearly quoted in Bernie’s article pertaining to the time frame. He also states the “(conservative)” referring to the Media Research Center so he has clearly stated their agenda and yes they are a conservative group from what I know.

      But you are right to an extent. The nightly news tends to follow more recent events and to the left wing of this country, 2 minutes and 8 seconds is enough for the IRS reporting since July 1.

      • brickman

        My point is simple. The study follows media reporting of the IRS scandal since July 1, 2013. The scandal broke May 10, 2013. That’s 52 days earlier. It’s called news as in n-e-w. Why did the study not consider the first 52 days of coverage as coverage?The media tends to cover a story when its new.

        I remember listening to Rush devote all three hours of his show one day in May 2013 to this subject. He probably hasn’t since July 1. Bernie mentions the study’s timeframe but the omission of the starting date of the scandal is misleading. Most people won’t remember the exact day of the scandal. I only know it because of a personal event that happened at that time. The date was chosen on purpose to mislead. Bernie should be more vigilant. Trust but verify.

        • rune

          what’s news is that the Obama administration denies the scandal and still has fired no one. Are they still withholding documents?

          • brickman

            If you want to see what real IRS harassment look likes look up Karl Hess on wiki. LBJ hated the former Goldwater speech writer and let loose the IRS on him. By the time they got done Hess wasn’t even allowed to carry money in his pocket. This is quite different than a delay on tax exempt status, isn’t it.?

          • Tim Ned

            I haven’t looked this case up but you seem to do your homework. I do believe that if you get on the IRS hit list regardless of what party controls the White House, you are in for trouble. There’s plenty of stories of the IRS chasing down widows on a retirement income getting harassed. But I would really like to see the MSM take up the cause of this IRS scandal and dig in to it.

          • brickman

            I’m in my sixties and have a good memory. I worked on my first political campaign in 1970, although I am not an activist. I’ve seen real abuse of the system by those in power. The IRS and NSA scandals are so minor in comparison. A lot of righties these days seem to me to be trying to claim the victimhood of the sixties left. When the National Guard starts shooting you we’ll talk.

            Please look up Karl Hess. He was a really interesting person. A far right conservative turned SDS member turned libertarian .

          • tim ned

            I go back a ways too and I do a lot of consulting for manufacturing in the US and overseas. I see a lot of corruption, not to the extent you speak of, when government is involved in business as corruption is inevitable. Most notably in the old soviet block countries but including the more socialized nations such as Greece and Portugal. Smaller government and ones that stay out of business eliminates the corruption.

          • legal eagle

            Consulting?……LMAO

          • Tim Ned

            Your a Lawyer?…..CMAO

          • Ted

            The cons justifiably love to rail about welfare abuse and the welfare moms who do it. Funny that the white collar side of welfare fraud is when their parents need to be cared for in a Nursing Home, they can’t wait take their house and hide their other assets so that on paper at least, the folks will qualify for Medi-Caid as indigent while not thinking twice about it as long as they get their inheritance.

          • Tim Ned

            Then you would agree to make concessions to insure the ability to continue these programs in the future. There is no plan in place now that insures Social Security, MediCare, or housing for our seniors into the future. I know in MN that nursing home care is mostly funded by the county with some state funding and probably through some trickle down federal money. And I can’t speak to the corruption you speak of as I haven’t seen it. In my dads case we paid it. However I have a friend right now who’s mom is in nursing care that will be paid by the county. But to do so they had to sell her house, depreciate her funds and it appears in a couple of months the county will begin picking up the tab. There isn’t a reasonable conservative that disagrees with this program. And I am told in Minnesota they will go back seven years making it difficult to do what you say.

          • Sheila Warner

            The same thing is true here in NJ. Seniors have to be bankrupt before they get help from the local or state government.

          • T Ko

            With the stakes are potentially another term in the Whitehouse, or a first term for a qualified replacement, then amassing all the resources legally available are to be expected.

            What is not legal and should at no time be allowed is to use government resources under the direction of the incumbent party to act in some way that inhibits the fair political competition of the opposing party. Obama was the one responsible for the direction of the Treasury Department, which was responsible for the direction of the IRS.

            Obama and camp directed the IRS to restrict the ability of republican forces to give support to Romney or other opposition forces of Obama. This is unmitigated abuse of powers, a criminal offense.

          • Ted

            Bull crap! The head of the IRS and others like Lois Lerner have resigned/been forced out.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Pressuring someone to resign (and there’s been no evidence of that) is not the same as holding someone accountable.

            Firing someone holds them accountable.

          • Ted

            BS. So, what’s the difference between forcing someone to resign in lieu of firing them?

          • Integrity

            Moral courage. QED

          • Ted

            It’s called compassion and leaving someone w/ as much dignity as possible. No doubt this technique is anathema to the rt wing nuts so I wouldn’t expect it to resonate w/ you. Besides, Obama’s real mistake was acting too quickly before he had all the facts. The good news is that it’s in no way a scandal despite the knuckleheads on the rt claiming it is.

          • Integrity

            No, it is called taking care of a loyal cult follower. QED

          • Ted

            Take your meds and enjoy the soft, chewy centers…..It can only help w/ your condition.

          • T Ko

            Currently, that is hard to find, and it won’t be found in our current Whitehouse.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            ACCOUNTABILITY is the difference. Letting someone resign amidst a scandal is done to kill a story, not hold someone accountable.

          • Ted

            Christie let Wildstein resign and then he promptly took the 5th! So, after you freaked out w/ Lerner pleading the 5th, where’s your outrage of Wildstein or Brooks who will probably do the same? You’re only capable of outrage against the Dems, aren’t you? If it weren’t for dbl stds you’d have no stds at all.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I “freaked out” about Lerner taking the 5th? I think you’re getting me confused with someone else.

          • Ted

            Oops, I meant Bridget Kelly not Brooks. Lets see if she takes the 5th?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Just so I’m not confused, what is the point you’re trying to make? Wildstein resigned last month, before the controversy. Kelly was fired within 24 hours of it.

            Which one of them did Christy let off the hook?

          • Ted

            It happened back in Sept so the answer is himself by waiting months to even begin to investigate it and apparently hoping it would disappear? And are you trying to say that he never asked Wildstein or Kelly what happened prior to their leaving? There are pictures of Christie, Wildstein and Sammons together on the 3rd day of the closure and you figure no one told Christie about it or he didn’t otherwise hear of it? Lets see uf Kelly or Wildstein get immunity?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. You’re faulting Christy for not firing people before it was even determined who was responsible for what?

            Fantastic.

          • Ted

            Wrong! I’m saying he did nothing for months to get to the bottom of it. And enough already w/ your annoying habit of putting words in my mouth or changing the subject.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Get to the bottom of what? The story being told (a false one) was that it was due to a traffic study. Christie may have very well believed that.

            You’re working off the assumption that Christie knew their was foul-play and ignored it. I’m not, because I have yet to hear evidence to support that.

            On the other hand, we now know for a fact that the Obama administration knew almost immediately that terrorists were behind the Benghazi attack, yet for two weeks, they repeatedly told the American public that a spontaneous mob enraged over a YouTube video was to blame.

            Christie fired someone once the facts came out.
            What has Obama done?

            And Ted, you accusing someone of putting words in your mouth is like Anthony Weiner accusing someone of having Internet sex perversions. Give me a break.

          • Ted

            Wow! Do you actually read your nonsense before you hit send? You’re the king of false equivalencies and you’re so incredibly clueless it defies description. Have someone proof read your posts for you. And then I repeatedly call you out for putting words in my mouth and you first deny it and then you do it again! You still haven’t learned that when you put words in other people’s mouths you put your feet in yours. You’d do well to remember that. Lets see how you do?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Ted. Your buffoonery is astounding. All you do on this website is spread false rhetoric and apply strawman arguments to people whose actual arguments you’re unable to combat.

            Then you accuse others of doing that very thing to you.

            And when someone counters your b.s. with hard facts and provide links (as I’ve done many times with you), you completely ignore them and move on to something else without being man enough to admit your defeat.

            Trying to debate intelligently with an unarmed opponent can be entertaining at times, but you’re a barnacle so deep in the tank for the DNC that you’ve become painfully boring. For your own sake – even if it’s every once in a while – turn off MSNBC and actually research news items rather than mindlessly repeating whatever Chris Matthews says.

          • Ted

            Who said links are necessarily “hard facts” besides you? especially the ones you offer. You “counter” w/ links to op-ed con Jonah Goldberg who like all the rt wing nuts always cites Rasmussen, who is about 5 pts more conservative than any other poll. And is the laughing stock of polls everywhere. Well, everywhere but Fox and here where you mindlessly swallow his nonsense because it affirms what merely wish were true.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Who said links are necessarily “hard facts”

            Links themselves? Uh. no. I’m talking about the reported facts those links took you to when you clicked on them. What is this? Internet 101.

            >>You “counter” w/ links to op-ed con Jonah Goldberg

            Uh. no. I gave you a link to the actual poll (one of multiple polls). You said you couldn’t see it, so I gave you a different link to the same poll via Jonah Goldberg’s column. You complained about him so I gave you a Google search link to the poll’s results as described through probably a hundred websites. Still, you’re confused. Amazing.

            Maybe you could take some computer classes at your local community college?

          • Sheila Warner

            True. Ted not only doesn’t read the articles to which links are provided, he then goes around claiming that we don’t cite our sources. I’m still waiting for him to actually read the report released by the Pentagon in 2012, regarding the activities of AQ in Libya. Because it was put together by the Federal Research Division, he claims it is not from the Pentagon. He doesn’t get how the FRD operates. Ridiculous.

            But that doesn’t matter. Now we have the bi-partisan report which contradicts what Kirkpatrick wrote in his NYT article. Good luck getting Ted or le to even acknowledge that.

          • Ted

            You naively or stupidly ask “Get to the bottom of what?” Ah, the bottom of Bridgegate. Or, do you have all your questions (assuming you’re objective enough to have questions) answered about this gross abuse of power and public trust? And then you give Christie the benefit of the doubt that he “may” have believed it was a traffic study? Yeah, and he “may” also be up to his neck in this petty, dangerous, absurd incident which based on your posts can’t bring yourself to even consider? Clearly, if Christie’s innocent his underlings were under the impression that what was done as retribution to the Fort Lee mayor was ok and who’s is on the hook for creating that culture? Try blaming Obama for that or changing the subject away from the fat guy’s scandal?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>You naively or stupidly ask “Get to the bottom of what?”

            Ted, do yourself a favor and actually read up on this controversy, because I don’t think you even understand the timeline of what actually happened.

            >>you give Christie the benefit of the doubt

            Until I see evidence otherwise, yes. I’m not convinced Christie’s hands are clean of this, just like I wasn’t initially convinced that the Benghazi attack didn’t come from a mob and a YouTube video either. Hell, I gave Bill Clinton the benefit of the doubt when he said he didn’t have sex with Monica.

            But until evidence to the contrary comes out on this stuff, all people can do is speculate – which is precisely what you’re doing without any actual knowledge of what happened (you know, the usual for you).

            Clinton and Obama both proved to be lying. No such proof has come forward regarding Christie.

          • Integrity

            What happened to compassion? LOL QED

          • T Ko

            Right, they have to demonstrably forfeit something that was not intended for them to forfeit. Quit vs. Fire…child’s play to figure out intelligently.

          • Tim Ned

            Absolutely. I’m thinking Ari Gold approach.

          • Integrity

            She did not resign, she retired with a nice pension. QED

          • T Ko

            Yes, and they will until the next honest administration is in place–not the current one.

    • legal eagle

      Bernie is just lazy…He is using a Fox News talking point as fact…Bernie has been playing the victim card for so long that he doesn’t recognize reality…Except when he’s doing Real Sports on HBO where they don’t allow him to state his political opinions…

      • Tim Ned

        Fox news talking point? You can’t be serious! This article is pertaining to a study by the conservative Media Research Center. You suffer from BFN (Blame Fox News Syndrome). Any time the facts don’t support your agenda or too complex of thought is required, you pull the BFN.

        • Ted

          In this case it’s more like blame Hannity’s illegitimate brother the insipid and peripatetic Brent Bozell. What a complete nut job he is! Is that other whack job John Bolton his illegitimate father? What a pair they make!

          • Tim Ned

            Come on Ted, don’t slip into Legal Eagle’s fog and do the BFN. I assume you are talking about John Bolton the former ambassador? This is one brilliant man. I believe Hillary and Bill Clinton are brilliant even though I don’t want to see her as president. I think Obama is smart as well and if you understand the structure he had in his campaign it’s absolutely brilliant. But I have major problems with agenda and his leadership. But you got to admit, the most interesting pair is Hillary and Bill.

          • Ted

            Do you mean that when I mentioned John Bolton you assumed that I was referring to…… John Bolton? Was it the fact that I spelled his name………John Bolton? And you say he’s “brilliant”? The guy never met a war he didn’t want to get us into! By what metric did you discern his brilliance? He’s the kind of ideologue who when he brags about his 140 IQ someone retorts, “Out of what, a thousand? Sheesh!

          • Tim Ned

            The proceeding word “Wack job” led me to believe you may have accidentally inserted John Bolton in place of a better example of a wack job such as Anthony Weiner.

          • T Ko

            Weener? Wack….? Really?!?

          • Ted

            How’d Weiner get in this? I’m not a fan of Weiner you could say? Bolton sees every country as something to be threatened by. He’s kind of a female version of whack job Michelle Malkin.

          • Tim Ned

            It’s your fault as it was simple word association. You used the term wack job and Weiner jumped out at me along with a few more people. But no one who served this country honorably. We can say you’re not a fan of Weiner? That’s like saying you’re not a fan of Opera. It comes across pretty Benign.

          • Ted

            You had a Weiner jump out at you? Sounds frightening! The thought of Bolton holding any type of office besides being the resident paranoic nut bag on the various Fox news entertainer is what scares me. Or that the rt wing nuts actually follow him.

          • Tim Ned

            I knew you wouldn’t go down the path simply admitting Anthony Weiner’s a wack job. But those that serve this country honorably are? Simply Amazing.

          • Ted

            What part of I said I’m not a fan didn’t you get? Yeah, I think the guy’s a knucklehead. Got it now?

          • tim ned

            Got it. Weiners a knucklehead and Bolton who served our country honorably is a Wack Job. Crystal clear where you’re coming from.

          • Ted

            So who says a raving idiot like Bolton didn’t serve his country “honorably”? Think how much better it would’ve been had he like W or Cheney served their country “well”? He did his best, he just was limited by his own intellect and DNA. Glad he’s spreading his crazy now on Hannity along w/ Bozell.

          • Tim Ned

            Like I say, you’re Crystal clear in your positions.

          • Ted

            And unlike you guys on the hard right w/ being objective towards Repubs, I have no problem calling a lib a knucklehead. The next rt winger here who calls Christie or anyone else (for example) an idiot will be the first.

          • legal eagle

            Why is everyone so brilliant? What is brilliant about John Bolton?

        • brickman

          I bet Fox News spent more time covering the “war on Christmas” in November and December than they did of the story of the destruction of Syrian chemical weapons.

          • Tim Ned

            I suspect you are talking about the commentary shows like O’Reilly. One of the best news casts on TV is Shepard Smith. He covered it completely. As did Bret Baier. Do you cherry pick MSNBC for your talking points?

          • brickman

            I like Shep Smith too. He was the only one on Fox News not fooled by Breitbart’s attack on Shirley Sherrod. I was talking of Fox News on the whole. The commentary shows are 90% of what they broadcast. I’m no fan of MSNBC. They’re both propaganda arms, not news.

  • Brian Fr Langley

    Unless Hillary is caught, standing over a dead body with a smoking gun, the media will NOT report 1 negative thing that might hurt her chances. In what is truly a bizarre modern phenomena “Lady Hillary” is literally seen as “Heir” to the throne. All around the planet we now see sons and wives replace their husbands and fathers in (of all places) democracies? Merit has been replaced by the “celebrity” of family ties to popular leaders. (folks must think good leadership skills rub off in close proximity). Thus will the media take on all (Republican)comers. They will be besmirched, pilloried, and flat lied about. I doubt a saint could escape their machinations. Even conservative news media are being attacked (by the left wing media) as blatantly partisan? (and this coming from CNN, among whom some of their crew are the most partisan folks I’ve ever seen) And woe betide anyone who poses questions about Her Majesties qualifications. Because everyone will know, they are filthy, racist, bigoted, execrable, misogynists. The only bright spot, is the left has so shattered the “American dream” (and continue to do so) that eventually (and happily) a backlash will be inevitable. I only hope there is enough of the country left to be saved.

    • legal eagle

      That’s what you have FOX News and right wing radio for…Hillary haters have plenty of media outlets to listen to faux scandals and assorted paranoid thinking…Watch Megyn Kelly the latest member of the Fox News circus…

      • Brian Fr Langley

        I could care less if the right or left print their opinions until the sun becomes a red giant. But mainstream media has become extra-ordinarily adept at posing their opinions as facts. While hypocrasy is acceptable in a free society, let’s not pretend is does no harm. Liberty always comes with a price. Liberty without responsibility is simply libertinism. None of the greatest of our leaders pandered to the immorality of our age. Conversely they appealed (as Lincoln once said) to the better angels of our nature. Today our leaders pander to our greed, selfishness, conveniance, and sexual appetites. And where it’s taken (and taking) us is patently obvious. I see only ignobility on the left. A continuing desire to gain power through pandering to the baseness of the human condition. While much of this exists as well on the right, their are real glimmers of hope there, based on the higher purpose of the human condition found in traditional values. We should all hold the mainstream media accountable (at least in hard news) to be honest. Not the hardline partisan liars they’ve become.

        • legal eagle

          It appears to me that any media outlet you don’t agree with constitutes the “mainstream media”…What exactly is the ‘mainstream” media? Do you have a clue about what you are ranting about?

          • Brian Fr Langley

            I thought you’d never ask. This past year I can’t count the number of so called “hard” news stories that described folks as “hard right” (you know Nazi’s) who opposed abortion, opposed gay marriage, or opposed Government debt. Or the stories who report “scientific consensus” on global warming? Since when did science become a consensus? Or how about the endless references to “deniers” as in linking “global warming” deniers to the execrable white supremacist “holocaust deniers”. Left wing motives are invariably portrayed as kind hearted (even if evil results), while right wing motives are invariably portrayed as evil intentioned, (even when good results). I could go on and on, but the point is, humans have a shocking capacity to rationalize evil, which has become the stock and trade of the mainstream media. What I agree or disagree with, is irrelevant. The statistical evidence of the shocking poverty caused by abandoning traditional values, (fatherless children for one) speak for themselves.

          • legal eagle

            You are making generalizations based upon your political beliefs not any facts and you have avoided answering my question regarding the “mainstream media”…..A few facts, every so often, might make your points more meaningful and relevant.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            CBS, ABC, NBC, etc. They’ve all used references using terms like “denier”, “scientific consensus”, and hard (or far) right describing folks who hold traditional views. While other examples abound these 3 are disingenuous and dissembling at best, and lies at worst. Designed to convince audiences to abandon traditional values and embrace “progressive” (Marxist) ones.

          • legal eagle

            You keep repeating vague generalities…You can’t quantify you’re ideological views so you keep making reference to “traditional values”…What exactly is a “traditional value”….You just yearn for the good old days because the current world has passed you by…

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Traditional values? Eschewing lying, cheating, stealing and cowardice. Marrying the Father or mother of your progeny. avoiding illicit sexual relationships with folks who have no intention of supporting progeny. Eschew objectifying the human condition, by turning them into objects of sexual or material desire, rather than seeing them as transcendent (to beasts or things) human beings. Appreciating the oneness and likeness of the human condition. (We’re all related by direct lineage. That is there really is a brotherhood of man). Honoring your mother and father (which presupposes a family relationship in which there is a female mother and a male father). These and other values that created a great Nation.

          • legal eagle

            Oh I forgot…There was no cheating, lying, stealing or cowardice prior to Obama’s election…..I believe Brian Fr Langley needs to see a neurologists ASAP…

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Your finally putting your finger on the crux of the matter. Liberal (Democrats) remain unconcerned about their leaders who lie cheat and steal. If they say the right politically correct things. They can lie under oath, (perjury) abuse their position of authority over impressionable young women, (a form of rape by statute, in most Western countries) be reputably accused of forcible rape, and even be impeached. Then go on to be a liberal hero, even boosting their wives into high office (possibly the Presidency). Yes there will always be liars, thieves, and cheats, the point is, traditionalists eschew them, liberals on the other hand elect them as Presidents.

          • legal eagle

            Brian,
            I know you long for the Eisenhower era but those days are long gone and are not coming back….

          • Brian Fr Langley

            The truth is O cynical one, you may be right, BUT Americans by nature are not Marxist. Once made aware of how much (and for how long) they’ve been lied too, by endless of claims of “free lunch” for all, they may become, as Admiral Yamamoto once pondered, an awakened giant.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>You are making generalizations based upon your political beliefs not any facts

            Wow. Just… wow.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Couldn’t have said it better.

          • Tim Ned

            And another Wow.

          • Ted

            So we call the deniers on the right deniers and you call the Climate Change believers “alarmists”. Big deal.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            The word “Deniers” is a not so subtle attempt at linking “deniers” to holocaust deniers, typically where you find hard right white supremacists. The idea is paint those with health scepticism as “hard right wing nut bars” .

          • Ted

            Wow, you really are paranoid! So in order to demagogue Dems, you claim us believers in Climate Change are calling you deniers anti-Semites? Really? You can’t just make the crap up because it’s absurdly untrue.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            You’re not really too bright are you? Nazi’s are known to have a “hard right” agenda of which anti-Semitism was only a part. But the fact that the media now calls climate change sceptics “deniers” is absolutely meant to link them with the so called “hard right”. The point isn’t about anti-Semitism, it’s about projecting climate sceptics as evil. And unhappily it’s absurdly true. Try doing just a modicum of research before you spout.

          • Ted

            So, you’re saying Climate Change deniers…..I mean “skeptics” really are evil? Who knew? Funny that between vilifying the left and feeling sorry for yourself on the right, your side’s really a hot mess isn’t it? When did you change your spots?

          • Brian Fr Langley

            And you whine when you think folks are putting words in your mouth. The fact is, the media deliberately (and with malice aforethought) are attempting to equate climate sceptics “deniers” with the evil elements of Nazi’s and fascists. And I’m NOT “vilifying” the left. That would imply I think they’re evil. While some well placed liberal types are (evil), most are just stupid dupes.

          • Tim Ned

            Since you post on this site I would suggest reading a few of Bernie’s books. He clearly lays out the factors pertaining to the MSM and their Bias. His first book Bias actually provides a pretty clear example.

          • T Ko

            His purpose isn’t for any intelligent motive. His comments are prima facie evidence of that fact

    • legal eagle

      You appear to be one hostile, angry, paranoid individual…..Perhaps you should try some medication for your condition…

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Lady Hillary’s only accomplishment (prior to being 1st lady) amounted to something around nothing. (at least in so far as running for President) Her only accomplishment since then has been to parlay her 1st lady fame into a position of power with in the Democratic party. Since when did the U.S. degenerate into a country where electability is based on the accomplishments of your husband? Had she never been first lady she wouldn’t have been elected as a “dog catcher” (an elected position that still exists among some southern U.S. counties).

        • brickman

          You don’t consider having Vince Foster killed an accomplishment?

          • Brian Fr Langley

            I would if it were proven, but unhappily the Little Rock mafia are good at what they do.

          • brickman

            It’s that you guys believed stuff like that and drug running by Bill out of Mena that hurts your credibility when you start talking about Obama’s FEMA concentration camps.:-)

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Would you feel better if I’d added LOL.

        • Ted

          If half of what you say about Hillary’s true, then just imagine how po’d you’ll be when she wins two elections? I’ll know just where to find you.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            I don’t doubt she may win the next election. What I doubt is that being a first lady qualifies you to run a country. And what I doubt is the intelligence of folks like you, who think it does.

          • Ted

            Ah, another rt wing nut who loves to put words in people’s mouth’s. Re: Hillary interesting that you seem ignorant of her being an NY Senator? or did you choose to omit it merely because it destroyed your argument? And she didn’t quit after 18 months ala Palin w/ whom I’m guessing you had no problem w/ her lack of experience?

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Read my comment again, I specifically said she parlayed her 1st lady fame into a position of power with in the Democratic party. That includes being a New York Senator.

          • Ted

            You need to explain to me why you and all the other rt wing nuts get your panties in a wad when your side loses elections? Sheesh! You’d think you’d be getting used to it after losing 5 of the last 6 popular elections! You’re bad losers and poor sports. Taking your @$$ whooping like a man because you’re going to have more practice at it soon in 2016. Let me get you warmed up. Waaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

          • Integrity

            A manly liberal. Now that is an oxymoron. QED

          • Ted

            As is your monicker. But you knew that, didn’t you?

          • Integrity

            Ahh, the power of Google. QED

          • Brian Fr Langley

            The days of the liberal democrats are swiftly coming to an end. The welfare state they wanted to build is on the verge of unsustainable collapse. (see Detroit, that great bastion of liberal democrats). Maybe one more President, but probably not. If you count Federal, State, County and Municipal debt, the jig (as they say) is up. American Governments now owe some 200+ Trillion dollars. Yes with a capital T. Since Democrats can’t say austerity, much less spell it. A-U-S-T-E-R-I-T-Y and a much lower standard of living will happen whether anyone likes it or not. And Liberals are who to blame. And I don’t just mean Democrats, because way too many Republics embraced unsustainable liberal ideals as well. Waaaaaaaa!!!

          • Ted

            The last word in your fear based screed put it best when you said, “Waaaaaaaa!” Thx for the honesty, it’s refreshing to see here

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Fear is NOT an appropriate description. I’ve been lucky enough to live at the apogee of the greatest human civilization ever known. What I am, is deeply disappointed that know nothing morons (like you) have tried to fix what wasn’t broken and wrecked it for future generations. It’s just a damn shame, that’s all.

          • Ted

            Yeah, if I’m not mistaken you’ve shown how easy it is to sell fear to the fearful and paranoia to the paranoid. To your side Obama is the 7th sign of the apocalypse, isn’t he? If you could only get your country back then all would well. Pffft!

          • Brian Fr Langley

            I only wish a little paranoia would sell? The world is a deep, dark and dangerous place for republican democracies, and always has been. Despots are now, and always have been, only a generation away. (that’s why your grand parents, great grand parents, and maybe your parents, went to far away lands spilling buckets of their blood, for your liberty. WW2 alone left 500,000 dead (not counting wounded) on foreign fields. Yeah, I think paranoia can be okay. You what they say, just because you’re a paranoid doesn’t mean nobody is after you.

          • Ted

            Congrats! You just made paranoia a virtue. That’s a first!

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Paranoia is being afraid when there is no danger. STUPIDITY is not being afraid when there is. To quote Winston Churchill ” Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”. This Prime Minister of the British common Wealth saw 1.7 million dead (yes Dead with a capital D) of the uniformed services of the British Common Wealth fighting for liberty in WW1 and 2. And you want to lecture on paranoia?
            Maintaining Liberty always comes with a cost. PS the PM was also quoting, in this case the philosopher Edmund Burke.

          • Ted

            Hey, at least you didn’t regurgitate ala Rash Limblob, “Freedom isn’t free”! And your side needs to stop the knee jerk and absurd Neville Chamberlain/Munich nonsense.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            While true the Ayatollahs are NOT Nazi’s, they are in fact hard core fascists. They are fierce adherents to Islamic law, which, and I quote “do not suffer an infidel as a neighbor”. Their religion calls on them to offer “peace” first to the infidel. Peace means conversion by accepting, “There is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet” “if the infidel won’t accept peace, he has declared war on you and your only response can be Jihad”. (Holy war) Since inception, Islam has set out to conquer all the peoples of the earth. It is in fact a duty, that’s at the very core of Islamic belief. And you think letting the Ayatollah’s (who like the Nazi’s, repeatedly call for the destruction of Israel and the Jews) should be allowed to have nukes? And think this does NOT compare to Chamberlains famous “Peace in our time” ???? Once again, try doing even a smidgeon of research.

          • Ted

            No, I think W’s, Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s stupid, wasteful war in Iraq has destabilized the region as evidenced by Iran’s actions. And no, I don’t trust the mullahs or want them to have nukes. Who would? Besides, you can count on Israel to take them out if they get any more nervous. The problem w/ your side is that everything is conflated to Munich. Who cares if it’s true as long as it feeds your always fear based views.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Destabilized the region??? Are you kidding? Arab nations attack Israel in 48. Another Israeli Arab war 56, 67, 73. Soviets invade Afghanistan. Lebanon sees several civil wars as Maronite Christians fight Muslims, Muslim Druze fight everybody. And Shia Muslims fight both Christians and Sunni Muslims (and vice-versa). Iraq invades Iran. Iraq invades Kuwait. Iraq gasses Kurds. Israeli’s take out Iraqi nukes. Israeli’s take out Syrian nuclear reactor. Saudi nationals take over 4 planes and bomb world trade center. Bin-Laden and Taliban threaten mid east Jihad. And all this with endless terror attacks all across the globe, courtesy of either one Islamic group or another. As for counting on Israel? What abject cowardice. That one should suggest, western civilization with a population exceeding a billion souls, should cower behind a few million Israeli’s, because they alone are prepared to do the right thing.

          • Ted

            Thx for the history lesson post WW 2 and knee jerk dogma. So you don’t think had Saddam not been wrongheadedly killed by us that Iran would be pulling this crap? Of course you probably also think those nonexistent nukes were moved to Syria don’t you? And nice job of hyperbolic rhetoric when I say Israel
            Post as Tedwill act before we do. Cowardice my ass!

          • Brian Fr Langley

            You need a lot more than 1 lesson because you seem very ignorant of history. Saddam killed by us? He was hanged after being found guilty in an Iraqi court for crimes against humanity. Including gassing Kurds, gassing Shiites, invading Kuwait, and attacking Iran. And yes, Iran would be pulling this crap. They have been trying to assert Shia hegemony since their revolution throughout the Shah. While Arabs are predominantly Sunni, Iraq is a majority Shia population. However it was being Governed by the Sunni minority. Iran was determined to get the bomb and topple him. along with Saudi Arabia, and of course annihilate Israel. The truth is, the Ayatollahs believe this is their religious obligation to their faith, and worse they believe that God “wills it”. If they get the nukes they’ll use em. Their real goal though, is to re-establish the lost Islamic caliphate. This is a position that politically unites all Muslims. (whether Shia or Sunni) You can think of the Caliph as an Islamic overlord. The last one was deposed by the allies when the Ottoman Turks surrendered (after having sided with the Germans) in WW1. Up until then their had always been a Caliph. And the goal of all Islamic factions (aside from converting infidels) is working hard to get the Caliph from their own respective community. The last Caliph (and his Heirs) went on Jihad every spring for centuries. They attempted to conquer the known world. Their plans have been disrupted by a technologically superior civilization. And the coward comment stands.

      • Brian Fr Langley

        PS your advice on meds is a good one. I spoke to my kids and they tell me their friends have friends who absolutely could medicate me into voting for Lady Hillary as Pres. (and happily they add) All in all, makes me wonder what’s in your Kool-Aid?

        • legal eagle

          Do your kids and grandkids roll their eyes when you start ranting about the “good old days”?

    • Ted

      Wow, demagogue much? Thx for sharing Chicken Little.

      • Brian Fr Langley

        Demagoguery? Just check out a few facts. All over our good planet are democracies electing folks to high office on no other basis than a family connection to a former leader who espoused similar ideals to their own. The fact that Hillary (or Justin Trudeau in Canada) is as left wing as their former family members is not a qualification to lead a nation. Pointing out the Emperor (Lady Hillary) has no clothes, is NOt demogoguery, it’s simply honest reporting.

        • Ted

          If I wanted to joust w/ Fox News talking pts I would. Your regurgitation (emperor’s new clothes et al?) are distinctly unoriginal. You need to do better!

  • T Ko

    John Daly>>Legal Eagle thinks anyone who criticizes Obama is a racist. That’s what he’s known for on this website.<>Somebody with the handle “Legal Eagle” commented as a guest…this nut has found my criticism of Obama….as an indication that I am a racist—–which is a totally false accusation that is about all that is left for Obama fans like him to use to support this failed president.<<
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    This is the sum total of 98% of all posts on this site nowadays. I guess that makes it a training site for media terrorists and the right-wing defenders of media ethics.

  • Wheels55

    When everything that goes wrong is someone else’s fault, then the person “in-charge” isn’t really in charge. Obama just likes the title. Can we let him keep the cool Presidential goodies in the White House and get him to resign? I promise to still call him Mr. President.

    • ARJ127

      The same could be said about Christie. He blamed everyone else and he then made the whole thing as being his problem of being “humiliated”, “betrayed”, and so on. How about the poor buggers who couldn’t use the bridge? How about the potential threat to public safety that was unnecessarily engendered by the actions of his staff?

      • Jeff Webb

        Thank goodness there are people like Governor Christie, otherwise it’d be harder for you to divert attention from Obama.

        • legal eagle

          You are apparently difficult to divert from your Obama Derangement Syndrome affliction….LOL

          • T Ko

            Or you from your Demo-Zombie Syndrome.

        • T Ko

          And they wouldn’t know what to do.

        • Ted

          You’re right……….it’s all a conspiracy. I can alredy see the rt wing nuts starting to
          panic should the scandal reach Christie. who ya gonna run then? Ted Cruz and Mike Lee? Please do! Nice of Christie to help with the deflection and diversion.

          • legal eagle

            Maybe Romney can run again? The right wing cult members think he’s the greatest and maybe he knows the talking points by now…

          • Ted

            Yeah, maybe the “severely” conservative Mittens can run w/ Palin who would balance out that ticket. He would get the LDS, business and rich guy vote and she would get the Rash Limblob, Sean Insanity, Alex Smith, idiot vote or as I call them, many of the people here.

      • Wheels55

        I don’t disagree about Christie. He seems to be learning the hard way about national politics. But his bridge deal and the media attention it got is out of whack when compared to the Benghazi and IRS issues and the media coverage those received. At least Christie did the leadership thing by holding someone accountable. Obama just keeps looking at his calender waiting for the 2014 mid-term elections to get here.
        You watch, after November 2014, Obama will have plenty to say and plenty of people to throw under the bus – all he will concentrate on is his legacy.

      • Tim Ned

        How about the family members of the Benghazi victims? Are they poor buggers too and do they deserve an explanation and maybe an apology? At least the victims know the cause of the bridge delay. The victims of the heroes who were murdered in Benghazi deserve better than what this president has delivered.

        You know, had President Obama stood in front of the American People in place of Susan Rice that weekend, and explained what he knew pertaining to the attack, I would respect that.
        But what really bothers me about the left in this country; you defend
        this guy through his truths, and his Bull. You can’t even admit what a dopey explanation it was about a dopey movie.

        By the way AR, did you guys get that cold blast through Canada as well?

        • ARJ127

          I grant you that the media should have made a better deal about Benghazi. As for Christie, they haven’t overplayed it. Now there’s some allegation about Christie using some of the relief money for political purposes.

          Oh yes, we got cold too.

      • tarmac 492

        Causing a traffic jam at a bridge is a completely moronic thing to do. However, a traffic jam like that is not uncommon there and the fact that the media is making it out to be some sort of catastrophe is ludicrous. Again, this is does not make Christie’s underlings doing this ok.

        • ARJ127

          A traffic jam that is deliberately caused can be catastrophic if you’re in an ambulance suffering a heart attack or a home owner waiting for the fire trucks to arrive at your burning house. The latter might be a bit of a stretch, but the former is definitely possible.

    • Ted

      “When everything that goes wrong is someone else’s fault”……obviously you meant Crisco Christie didn’t you? And speaking of the benchmark of rt wing politics (I.E. double standards) when Obama states he didn’t know about some event the wing nuts here say he’s incompetent or he’s obfuscating. When Christie says he didn’t know the connedservatives here claim that makes him innocent.

      Same with Obama’s religion. He goes to a Christian church for 20 yrs which makes him, per the cons, a Muslim. While McCain never set foot in a church for years which made him (ahem) a Christian demonstrating that the narrative is more important than the facts for the righty chuckleheads.

      • Wheels55

        Yes Ted, Christie too.
        I wasn’t talking about religion. Most politicians fake that to some degree. I’m not making any excuses for McCain, but being locked up in a Viet Cong prison for 5 years will change one’s perspective.

        • Ted

          I was merely pointing out the idiocy and dbl stds on the right and used religion to make that obvious second point. And absolutely no disrespect to John McCain who’s a war hero and a good and decent man. He just happened to represent an excellent example of the hypocrisy that is rampant on the right.

          • Wheels55

            Can you point out idiocy and dbl standards on the left?

          • Ted

            Due to the fact that it’s so much more prevalent on the right I opt to take the path of least resistance.

          • Integrity

            Proof? QED

          • Paul Courtney

            And we can see the deep, dark lefty place it took you to, so thanks for waiving us off that path.

          • Ted

            Exposing the obvious is what you saw and yet were/are in denial about. Can’t fix or help you w/ your biological problem(s). The Rt wing hypocrisy and dbl stds are indeed a dark place and getting darker especially when to you the truth is simply whatever you want it to be. And when the facts don’t fit your narrow minded narrative you simply run home to Limbaugh or Fox and try to find one of their faux facts. To wit: Romney will win in a landslide. The polls are skewed. Our candidate wasn’t hard core rt wing enough to win. The CBO and BLS books are cooked. Fact checkers who disabuse your side of its wishful thinking BS aren’t good at fact checking when you don’t like their conclusions. Need I go on? If it weren’t for dbl stds your side wouldn’t have any stds at all.

        • brickman

          McCain was imprisoned by the North Vietnamese , not the Viet Cong.

          • Wheels55

            Thanks

          • brickman

            You’re welcome. Hated to be a nitpicker but I got in a flame war a couple of months ago with someone who was disparaging McCain’s service record because he (McCain) had voted against Ted Cruz on a cloture motion. You know, the treason talk. So I want to keep McCain’s record of service to our country as accurate as possible.

          • Ted

            Didn’t he stay at the Hilton in Hanoi? :-)

          • brickman

            He probably wasn’t as amused by that as you.

      • Integrity

        Mere conjecture on my part, but I don’t think President Obama has a religion that he really believes in. Not that this makes him any different than many of the other politicians. QED

        • Ted

          What that doesn’t make him is a Muslim. Tell your ideologue friends.

      • allen goldberg

        Gee Ted, you really are a obtuse guy. Actions and real data mean something. Not just going to a church. Using your logic, going to school all those years should have actually educated you…but no….still obtuse.

        • Ted

          There’s nothing obtuse about your bizarre intrinsic need and haste to vility and demonize your President is there? I doubt therapy will help as your condition is more advanced than I thought. Your extremist head could explode at any moment.

          • allen goldberg

            Need and haste? It’s been five plus years of illegal actions lies and deceit. His own actions and words are under analysis. Yet, I am the one at fault because I listen and read them. Attacking me, does nothing to explain his Constitution violations, his public lies and deceit.
            And Ted, do not delude yourself, the people on this site feel pity for you.

          • Ted

            I hope so. It’s a badge of honor.

          • Ted

            No, you’re at fault because demagogue every thing that Obama says that you don’t like as “lies”. And stop playing the victim! When you have a chip on your shoulder you don’t get to whine about being the victim. Waaaaa!

          • Ted

            And if you’re outraged over these imagined constitutional abrogations caused by the Baggers obstruction then knock off all your voter suppression violations. Try winning elections with your policies not your disenfranchising of dem voters. Hypocrite.

  • stmichrick

    Bernie; Its amusing to watch the media feast on Christie; would it have been a big deal if he had not polled well against Hillary the week before?

    Trying to compare the Christie traffic flap with Obama scandal coverage is pointless. There are only two things that will get Obama adverse treatment by the media. One; he closes the Press Room and no longer takes questions. Two; sexual impropriety of some kind by Obama himself. Each of these has shown up in minor ways recently: the White House photography flap and the ‘selfie’ episode in South Africa.

    The big media will not take him down for the true disasters his policies have caused; Obamacare and foreign policy.

    • wildjew

      Why do you think Obama has been pretty much defeating Republicans at every turn? Why are Republicans constantly in retreat before this thug? Please don’t say, it is because of the media. For decades the media has been on the side of the American left.

      • stmichrick

        The media is only one factor, wj. I have lost faith in the American electorate and their representatives to change course when they’ve been wrong. We are into an age of cult politics since Obama’s promises and persona have mobilized larger numbers of low-info voters. Bill Clinton didn’t have as much of that kind of influence.

        Not only that, folks are so heavily invested emotionally in a first black president that he’s too big to fail.

        • wildjew

          I have also lost faith in the American electorate but what happened to my side? Why, after eight years of Bush did we get this Obama nightmare? What went wrong during the Bush years? Why do so many Republicans embrace phony conservatives like John McCain, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, George W. Bush who are all apologists for Islam; who are friends and supporters of Palestinian savages? What has happened to the GOP, the party of Lincoln? There was a time our party platform said the following about Israel: “We oppose the creation of an independent Palestinian state. Nor will we support the creation of any political entity that would jeopardize Israel’s security.” (1992) “…we support Israel’s right to make its own decisions regarding security and boundaries.” (1996) “We support President Bush’s vision of two states, Israel and Palestine….Republicans agree with President Bush that Israel’s plan to remove all settlements from Gaza and several settlements from the West Bank is a courageous step toward peace in the face of continuing terrorist violence. This initiative can stimulate progress toward peace as laid out in the Road Map launched by President Bush.

          Republicans commend the government of Israel for its desire to pursue peace, even in the face of continuing terrorist attacks.” (2004)

          My guess is you were a huge Bush supporter throughout his eight years (so no offence intended) after the September 11, 2001 Muslim terror attacks in New York and Washington, why did Bush become such a HUGE apologist for the “religion of peace?” Why did Bush become such a huge sell-out for fundamental conservative principles, lying about our enemies and friends alike? Why?

          I expect this from the degenerate left but not from my side. Do you expect this from our side?

          • stmichrick

            Wj; what went wrong?
            As more conservative people chimed into the online and media crossfire there emerged two levels of discussion.
            One, which gets drowned out, has to do with rational discussions about the ideological and policy underpinnings of our disagreements. This requires reading and reflection beyond the headlines or sound bytes.
            The other is easily caricatured bomb- throwing. This latter style seems harsh to those new to the discussion; they can’t believe Obama is THAT bad so they tune out. These lightly informed voters end up choosing the personality they can best relate to. The stiff rich white guy with the perfect family or the smiling, glib black dude of unconventional origins who tells them they’ve been cheated. You pick.
            I think its possible for our side to do better but a political figure needs to rise who can tie these current blunders to history (been there, done that, as in the Middle East), yet conveying it in a hip, media friendly way. Tough act to fill.

          • wildjew

            A political figure needs to rise on our side, true. A a former party activist at the local level, for me, politics isn’t so difficult. Politics is about doing what is right when it comes to fundamental conservative issue.

            Sure there are grey areas such as, should we build a park in this neighborhood or not but when it comes to national security, there are clear red lines, such as you do not let a preeminent state sponsor of terrorism cross the nuclear threshold.

            When a state exporter of a virulent Islamic ideology like Saudi Arabia tells you if you don’t sell-out Israel then “you go your way and I will go my way,” you tell you Saudi Wahhabi enemy we are pleased to buy your oil on the world market but this thing you have asked me to do, I cannot in good conscience do. How difficult is that stmichrick? But Bush did not have the political courage to do that, did he? He capitualated to Islamic blackmail and a few days later Americans got a small taste of Islamic terrorism in New York and Washington, thanks largely to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the Iranians.

            stmichrick, do you believe in God? Do you see any justice in what happened to the GOP and to the United States since Bush because Bush sold himself to do evil?

          • stmichrick

            I don’t buy that Bush is responsible for 9/11. He did, like most politicians, want to be liked. 9/11 was a function of many years of ‘taking it’ without consequence from Islamic lunatics.

          • legal eagle

            As the Republican Party has as its token Jewish elected member of Congress, Eric Cantor, perhaps he can rise up like the Messiah to lead the Republicans to an election victory in 2016

          • T Ko

            It will be an easy walk and stomp over the Demo-Zombies in 2016. Obama-devil is ensuring that.

        • Eric Crittenden

          “We are into an age of cult politics since Obama’s promises and persona have mobilized larger numbers of low-info voters. Bill Clinton didn’t have as much of that kind of influence.”

          I love how conservatives just forget about the 8 years of Dubya’s reign as the “Decider”.

          Nope. No “low-info voters” during that time when a lot of his voters said that they voted for him because “They wanted to have a beer with him.” Never happened.

          When Liberals question invading Iraq and WMD, they weren’t called “traitors who sided with terrorists”. But of course, that was when supporting the President “during a time of war” meant you were a “patriot”.

          • stmichrick

            Hey Eric; I have some differences with Dubya but he was serious about defending the country, did not lie, and presided over 6 years of a booming economy. When he saw trouble in the economy and tried to reign in Fannie and Freddie, Barney and Maxine were having none of it (that episode is on video). He didn’t buy into silly hoaxes like global warming.
            And he respected the military.

    • Ted

      You say the media is “feasting”‘on Christie? That should keep
      a lot of them busy…….. and full. What a bad visual!

  • wildjew

    We know the mainstream media holds Republicans to a higher standard; a double standard. Republicans, unlike Democrats, have historically been a party of moral and ethical standards; a party of “God, family and country.” (Since George W. Bush sold-out Israel only days after the 9/11 attacks when he made the establishment of a Muslim-enemy state in Israel’s heartland a formal goal of U.S. policy I am not sure what god my party worships.) Nonetheless we can only hope Gov. Chis Christie, apologist for Islam and jihadists extraordinaire, will NOT be our Republican nominee for president in 2016? Didn’t we learn our lesson with Mitt Romney?

    • allen goldberg

      NEVER let the media choose the GOP candidate. They chose McCain and Romney and detested George W.–look at the results. I disagree with you ascertain the George w. sold out Israel, his advisory gave him bad advice and he chose not to disagree..all bad…the results, or course are the same. BUT..liberals always have had double standards, because they own the media…who spin it their way …..always.

      • wildjew

        I am a forty three year registered (unlike Bush a conservative) Republican. My guess is, nothing I say or present will change your opinion of former President Bush.

        August 2001: Crown Prince Abdullah Warns Bush Against Pro-Israeli Stance in Letter

        Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah writes to President Bush saying that the administration’s increasingly pro-Israel stance with regard to the Palestinians and other issues is putting the Saudis in a very difficult position. The prince warns that Saudi Arabia may need to reassess its relations with the United States. Bush immediately responds by promising a new, more balanced initiative for peace in the Middle East, including support for a Palestinian state. But the new American initiative will be derailed by the events of September 11. [BBC, 11/9/2001; TEL AVIV NOTES, 5/7/2002]

        http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_2847

        Note the date, late August 2001, Saudi Crown Prince Adullah plays a little brinkmanship with Bush (using threats, carrots and sticks). Bush and Rice capitulate and sell-out Israel promising he will make the establishment of a Muslim-enemy state in Israel a “formal goal of U.S. policy.

        Only the Saudi-financed September attacks were inconvenient to Bush’s planned announcement early September, putting off his announcement to early October. Do you remember late Prime Minister Sharon’s initial response?

        CNN SATURDAY MORNING NEWS

        Israel and the U.S. Involved in a Public Spat

        Aired October 6, 2001 – 09:21 ET

        THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

        JOHN KING, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: As the president tries to build this international coalition, a major target of the White House effort, moderate Arab nations. But as the president reaches out to the Arab world, some tensions and remarkably blunt exchanges back and forth between the United States and a long- time ally.

        (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

        ARIEL SHARON, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: “….I turn to the western democracies, first and foremost the leader of the free world, the United States. Do not repeat the dreadful mistake of 1938, when the enlightened democracies of Europe decided to sacrifice Czechoslovakia for the sake of a temporary, convenient solution. Don’t try to appease the Arabs at our expense. We will not accept this. Israel will not be Czechoslovakia. Israel will fight terror.”

        KING: What angered Washington most was Sharon’s comparison to Europe ceding parts of Czechoslovakia to Hitler, suggesting that in its aggressive effort to court Arab nations for the coalition against terrorism, the United States was turning its back on Israel’s security.

        ARI FLEISCHER, WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN: The president believes that these remarks are unacceptable. Israel can have no better or stronger friend than the United States, and better friend than President Bush.

        KING: Secretary of State Colin called Sharon once to voice the president’s displeasure, then again later, after the prime minister agreed to issue a conciliatory statement….

        • allen goldberg

          Quite to the contrary, these two quotes only solidify my displeasure with George W. in this area…. thanks for the details. I do appreciate it.
          By the way, he received advice from others in his cabinet, supporting this same really BAD idea, and those too, were wrong entirely.

          • wildjew

            My late father, our Republican Executive Committee State Committeeman was both a strong Jeb Bush supporter and George W. Bush supporter. I began complaining to my father in the bloody months leading up to the September attacks, why was Bush calling on Israel to exercise restraint after every horrific suicide bombing in Israel? Dad told me Bush has some of the best minds in the world advising him; that he was trying to avoid a regional war. That did not satisfy me. Then came 9/11 which I think gave my father a little different perspective about Islam. As you say, Bush got all this “expert” advise on Islam and Israel but it was bad advise. I wondered, if I could find honest authors and scholars on Islam after the attacks, why couldn’t Bush? Why did Bush keep assuring Americans that Islam is a religion that teaches “goodness and peace” when it does nothing of the sort. I cannot even say Judaism or Christianity are religions of peace. How much less Islam? Is it any wonder Americans were and are confused about Islam? Is it any wonder they elected a man who boasts that he comes from generations of Muslims on his Kenyan father’s side of the family; a man with deep sympathies for the most extreme interpretation of Islam? Bush should have been more honest about Islam and Israel which his people (Powell, Rice, etc.) like Obama’s people claim Israel illegitimately occupy Muslim land! For those of us who know the modern history of Israel, the League of Nations Mandate for a Jewish National Home, these assertions are insulting and dishonest.

          • allen goldberg

            Add in, I am An American who has read the Qur’an, before it was sanitized in the 70′s, republished and distributed. I know exactly what they plan, and will do..if we do not stop them. Bush’s strategy came from people, and his own beliefs that were plainly ignorant..Try Robert Spencer’s ideas…for instance. Yet he was Pollyanna in approach. Obama is entirely different ..he is a Islamic sympathizer, if not Islamic in core beliefs…even more dangerous….Seems that no one wants to say anything out-loud for fear of..? You tell me.

          • wildjew

            I tend to agree. Bush was not so much an Islamic sympathizer like Obama (though he and his father have benefited financially by means of their decades-long relationship with the Saudis), I call Bush, Romney, Christie and others “apologists for Islam,” as would Spencer in a candid moment. I began reading Robert Spencer soon after the 9/11 attacks. I first read his book, “Islam Unveiled: Disturbing Questions About the World’s Fastest Growing Faith, where he gently mocked G. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and others for their politically correct assertions about Islam. Why didn’t Bush embrace scholars like Spencer? I think the answer is, he rejected scholars like Spencer preferring apologists for Islam like himself. I don’t look to the left to get it right on the threat to the world Islam (especially nuclear-armed Iran) poses to the world in decades to come. I look to my side. That is why I am not unhappy Republicans like Christie are hurt. Will Ted Cruz, Scott Walker and other conservatives get up to speed on this global threat? Time will tell.

          • legal eagle

            What would you propose? Bomb all Muslim countries? You are embarrassing yourself and the Jewish community with your nonsensical rants…

          • wildjew

            Where did you read anything resembling, “bomb all Muslim countries,” in my posts? Dig deep L.E.

          • legal eagle

            So what’s your solution to this supposed “grave” problem?

          • wildjew

            I have made a few suggestions for the United States elsewhere. I think the U.S. over the previous decades has pretty much set its course which is slowly evolving into more and more pressure on Israel to make national security concessions in order to appease the West’s largely oil-producing Arab and Muslim states. I don’t see much change in policy in the years to come. Do you? For Israel, wean herself off American aid. Become as self-sufficient economically and militarily as is humanly possible.

          • legal eagle

            I am a pragmatist…You are a zealot….I believe in finding solutions to problems…obviously, you don’t….

          • wildjew

            Jihadists, suicide bombers, Hamas, Iran’s mullahs, Hezbollah, etc., are zealots; fanatics. I am a principled (not a utopian) idealist. There is a difference. I believe in finding solutions to problems when there are solutions. Germany’s Jews were certain they could find a solution or a compromise with the German Chancellor. That had been our history but they came up against a man with whom there was no compromise; no solution. Only a Final Solution.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>I am a pragmatist…

            You’re apparently also a comedian.

          • T Ko

            And not very good.

          • Ted

            Now that is funny.

          • legal eagle

            So everyone who does not agree with Israeli political decisions is a Muslim sympathizer? Again, you are embarrassing yourself with these types of nonsensical comments..

          • wildjew

            I often disagree with Israeli political decisions.

          • legal eagle

            Thank you for your Muslim bigotry…..you should change your name to MORONJEW…

          • wildjew

            Are you really a “legal eagle,” (a lawyer) legal eagle? If you are, I’ve seen better (far better) legal minds than yours. Can you point to how I “unfairly” characterize Islam post 9/11/2001? Might I ask what you know about the religion? Have you read the Qur’an? Have you studied the life of the prophet, Muhammad? What scholars, historians and authors you’ve read or studied? I will patiently wait for your response. I suspect there will be no response from a ill-informed man like you.

          • legal eagle

            I am a Jew who respects all other religions and doesn’t make generalizations about other religions or groups. Using religion to justify violence is an age old tradition…making generalizations about religious groups is defined as bigotry…

          • wildjew

            Yes, I have seen your argument quite a lot on left-leaning Jewish websites (The Jewish Daily Forward comes to mind), invoking our history of persecution as a reason why we should not make generalizations or engage in stereotypes about Islam.

            I am fairly tolerant of other religious traditions — my guess is you know our rabbis have held, “Righteous people of all nations have a share in the world to come.” I am tolerant of those who are tolerant of me.

            If a religious tradition teaches that I have three choice, conversion, submission or death, I have no tolerance for that religious tradition. Does every Muslim subscribe to this view? No. Nor does every Christian believe my fate is an everlasting fiery torment if I do not believe in their savior, though the teaching can be justified by a plain reading of the NT. You might argue that I am not describing authentic or authoritative Islam. I would argue you are wrong.

          • legal eagle

            What’s your point? That there are Muslim extremists? We agree….that they use religion to justify violence? We agree….Do you suppose that the United States or Israel not have relationships with Muslim countries?

          • wildjew

            Let me speak to your question as an American citizen. If I were the president of the United States after the 9/11/2001 attacks, our relationship with Muslim countries that train, arm and indoctrinate jihadists (or export this virulent Wahhabi or Salifi ideology) would change substantially; especially with those countries – Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran – proven to have played any kind of role in the September attacks. I would do everything in my power to make the United States as energy self-sufficient as possible. Bush did none of that. Bush hid Saudi Arabia’s complicity in the September attacks.

            Your statement, they use religion to justify violence, I would put differently. Jews cannot use our religion to justify violence against innocent people like we saw on 9/11/2001 and since. Muslims do use the the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence against non-Muslims. For example, some of the highest religious authorities at the prestigious al-Azhar University (where Obama addressed the Muslim world, June 2009), use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify suicide bombings / killings of innocent Jewish children and women in Israel.

            This is how Obama began his speech to the Muslim world and to invited Muslim Brotherhood jihadist guests:

            “I am honored to be in the timeless city of Cairo, and to be hosted by two remarkable institutions. For over a thousand years, Al-Azhar has stood as a beacon of Islamic learning; and for over a century, Cairo University has been a source of Egypt’s advancement. And together, you represent the harmony between tradition and progress. I’m grateful for your hospitality, and the hospitality of the people of Egypt. …”

          • Sheila Warner

            And just look at Egypt now. The sordid underbelly of the Muslim Brotherhood was quickly revealed after the USA supported the ousting of Hosni Mubarek.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            About the everlasting fiery torment? While true evangelicals believe in the possibility of a painful afterlife, the caveat is not unreasonable. The worst case scenario ascribed to Jews, is that they will be judged by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Since Jews are the posterity of these beloved Patriarchs. Evangelicals who also believe they’ll be judged by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, take very seriously their duty to warn the patriarchs aforementioned posterity about their belief in the cost of unbelief. Like Abraham we (typically) believe (like Abraham) that faith, is the path to righteousness. “and Abraham believed God, and God credited it to him as righteousness”. I know of NO evangelicals who wish for anything but happiness in life (and the afterlife) for the descendants of Jacob. The very WORST we can be accused of, is believing they may have gone astray, and feel duty bound to point the path. Happily for Jacobs posterity, modern evangelicals are profoundly Zionist, and can be counted on to support Israel.

          • Sheila Warner

            “Happily for Jacobs posterity, modern evangelicals are profoundly Zionist, and can be counted on to support Israel.”

            It’s not modern evangelicals–it is modern fundamentalist evangelicals. They believe in a future Armageddon, following a rapture of believers and a tribulation. This particular sect believes that Jesus is the Messiah, that Jesus will convert all of the Jews, and establish a literal, physical kingdom in Israel at the end of time. I know, because I was raised in that sect. My sister is deeply entrenched in it–she visits Israel every couple of years, with the intention of furthering this message. Look carefully at the doctrinal statements of the major evangelical groups that support Israel. The end game is to convert as many Jews as possible to follow Jesus as Messiah.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            Sect? Fundamentalist? You say “This particular sect believes that Jesus is the Messiah”. Which evangelical sect doesn’t? These days “fundamentalist” is a pejorative term describing folks who actually believe in what the Bible teaches, miracles and all. Is there a group of Evangelicals who don’t? Evangelical by definition, means sharing the good news of the risen Messiah. (a miracle by any definition) There are folks who consider this to be a fairy tale. (non fundamentalists) and those who believe it’s true. (Fundamentalists).

          • Sheila Warner

            As I said, I was raised in this sect. You only pulled out words you didn’t like. Not all evangelicals are dispensationalists. That is the sect to which I referred. Do you know what dispensationalism is? Are you an adherent? You might be surprised at the numbers of evangelicals who reject dispensationalism and the notion of a secret rapture followed by a tribulation and Armageddon. I spoke factually.

            It is the Rapture/Tribulation/Armageddon sect, which does NOT include many evangelicals, which is very active and quite vocal in defense of Israel. That’s not to say that other Christian sects are not also supporters of Israel. But that particular sect is one that I advise Jews to avoid.

          • Brian Fr Langley

            You spoke factually???? You’re in thrall to mainstream media definitions that have political purposes. There are few agreements about what actually constitutes “fundamentalism”. However, Biblical inerrancy remains the real (and only) common denominator. The Judeo-Christian ethic (particularly belief in the values of Torah and the Bible) pose a significant threat to collectivist agenda’s (particularly in democracies), and phony manufactured divisions have become stock and trade in mainstream media. (who are for the most part collectivists by nature) The Bible is either true, or it is not. Evangelicals have few difficulties over most interpretive issues. (that is, fellowship is acceptable with those who hold honest interpretive differences) The clash (and there is one) is between those who reject Biblical truth, (creation, rising on the third day, virgin birth, life after death, etc.) and those who don’t reject it. The concept is simple, it’s either all truth or it’s all false. If one can pick and choose, all coherency is lost, and metaphor and fable is all that remain.

          • Sheila Warner

            It seems to me that it is the Americanized form of Islam that eschews violence and promotes peace. I believe it was the American Muslims to whom President George W was referring when he described Islam as a peaceful religion. He didn’t want Americans to start going after Muslims in this country. Of course, some did, but overall I think it is safe to say that, on the whole, American Muslims have been good citizens.

          • wildjew

            I did not get that impression. Here is part of what Bush said on September 20, 2001 in a speech before a joint session of Congress and the American people:

            “I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It’s practiced freely by many millions of Americans and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah.”

            First, let’s be clear, Bush is NOT a scholar or an authority on Islam. I suspect whoever he chose to advise him on the religion is an apologist for Islam. Maybe I missed it. I did not read any prestigious Islamic scholar in the Middle East (at al-Azhar University where Obama addressed the Muslim world, June 2009) issue a fatwa declaring the September hijackers or Osama bin Ladin were heretics or that they blasphemed the name of Allah. I have no idea where that came from. The “terrorists” were NOT traitors to their faith as Bush insisted they were.

            Bush clearly did not want Americans going after, harassing or persecuting Muslims in this country. All he needed to say is this. “We will not tolerate any harassment or persecution of American Muslims only because they are Muslims. We will prosecute anyone who does to the fullest extent of the law.” He did not have to lie about Islam.

            If you read counter jihad websites as I do, you will see there is much Muslim on non-Muslim violence in several European countries today, UK, France, Germany, Holland, etc. Especially violence and persecution of European Jews. We had a local radio talk show host who was certain our Muslims are very different from those living in Europe. Our Muslims are assimilated into American culture. I am not so sure about that. Some or many are. Some or many are not. Time will tell if America is different in that respect from Europe.

          • Sheila Warner

            >>Our Muslims are assimilated into American culture. I am not so sure about that. Some or many are.<<

            So, the bottom line is–you don't know. That means I can ignore everything you typed prior to the quote.

          • wildjew

            No Sheila, don’t go away. Let’s discuss this. I’m not so sure means, I remain skeptical. I remember the protests here in my state during Israel’s Operation Cast Lead, December 2008 – January 2009. I remember the woman yelling “Go back to the oven, you need a big oven! That’s what you need!” On an anecdotal level, here in my community after the 9/11 attacks a prominent Muslim doctor wrote a letter to the editor saying these were criminal acts that do not represent Islam. He made his rounds to our local clubs and organizations. Their Islamic center held an open house. They invited the media. I’ve got some customers who know the family. I am “told” (though I have heard this from more than one customer), they – husband and wife – believe the Jews control the media. In other words, they believe in a Jewish world conspiracy which supports Israel. When I am talking to a self-professed peaceful Muslim here in the west, my acid test is the Jews and Israel. Have you read any of Robert Spencer’s work? Do you visit his website, Jihadwatch?

            http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/01/hamas-linked-cairs-ibrahim-hooper-whitewashes-jihad-in-the-us.html

            Have you read his book (you can buy it at audible.com) “Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam Is Subverting America Without Guns or Bombs”? I commend it to you as I commend Andrew C. McCarthy’s (National Review) work, writings, books.

          • Sheila Warner

            I don’t think you said anything new. Yes, there are rabid antiSemites, and plenty of them live here in South Jersey. My point was that not all American Muslims support the destruction of Israel, nor do they support jihad in general against the West. For how many years prior to 9/11 have we had a sizable community of American Muslims living and working among us? Decades, right? I do not automatically look with suspicion on American Muslims. That’s all.

          • wildjew

            Chris Christie supported the 9/11 ground zero mosque. He appointed Sohail Mohammed New Jersey Superior Court Justice, saying he was tired of dealing with the “crazies.” Have you been consistent? A couple of days or a week after the 9/11 attacks, did you say the same thing about American Muslims?

          • Sheila Warner

            The day of the attack, and since then, I have stated the same thing about American Muslims. I also supported the mosque. Muslims are not precluded from building a mosque if and when they legally obtain the necessary permits. Of course I understood why so many Americans were against it. Anti-Muslim sentiment has run rampant in this nation since 9/11. I don’t fault Chris Christie for appointing a Muslim to the judiciary. And, yes, “crazies” abound.

            Actually, I might be the only living American who was not angry at those who perpetrated 9/11. I was immensely sad that they were so brainwashed in their hatred that they actually committed the heinous act. Then I saw the videos of people dancing in the street, and was even more saddened. I recognized that the United States was dealing with a mindset thousands of years in the making.

            That doesn’t mean that I don’t want those who commit terrorist acts to be absolved. I support the existence of Gitmo, and I agree with the detaining of enemy combatants. We are at war. I just don’t hate our enemies. I am a Catholic Christian, so I do not allow myself the luxury of hate.

            I support the military in its attempt to defeat terrorists. My brother served in the first Gulf War, and my niece in the second Gulf War. My nephew is being deployed to Afghanistan later this year.

            I also know from experience that Muslim Americans have, for many years, been good citizens of this country. I refuse to buy into the notion that they are inherently dangerous simply because they are Muslim.

          • wildjew

            You probably meant to write, “that doesn’t mean that I want those who commit terrorist acts to be absolved.”

            I believe you are the exception or ‘exceptional’ among Americans. I am guessing the vast majority of Americans, like me, were horrified by the 9/11 atrocities – the viciousness and the cruelty of the attacks. We wondered, what does it say about the religion of these people and of those who sympathized with the attacks? Many of us did not buy G. W. Bush’s lies (yes Bush lied) about Islam being a religion of peace and goodness or that the “terrorists” were traitors to their faith. Some of us began studying the religion of Islam in earnest; the Qur’an, the Hadith, the life of Islam’s prophet, etc.

            Herein lies the difficulty. You are a Catholic. I am a Jew. You see the world through the lens of your religious faith or tradition. I see the world through mine. Often I must remind my Christians neighbors that as a Jew I am not commanded or enjoined to love my enemies. Neither am I commanded to hate my enemies. But your faith goes beyond much of Protestantism. Unlike many Protestants, if you are a devout Catholic, you oppose not only taking the life of the innocent unborn but taking the life of mass-murderers, rapists, terrorists.

            You are very forgiving. Too forgiving.

          • Sheila Warner

            You are correct: I am opposed to the death penalty. “Too forgiving?” By whose standards? Humans, for sure. But I have to one day answer to a higher authority. And while I realize that Judaism has a different belief structure than my Catholicism, I am a Catholic, after all, and must live my life accordingly. It was well said that hanging onto hatred of one’s enemies is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die. I find that hatred and nonforgiveness only brings bitterness and anguish to my soul. I am comforted that God will be the one who metes out justice. That is above my pay grade.

            This has been a very good discussion, and I appreciate it that you have shared your heart with me.

          • wildjew

            OK, I want to end the discussion by suggesting there is a difference between bearing a (debilitating) grudge and hatred on the one hand and “not forgiving” – believing only God can forgive the sins of – someone or some peoples who have done you, me or our country harm. People often use the idea of forgiveness in the sense I understand it; letting go of a grudge or hatred which only eats at you from within. That is very different from forgiving in the Old Testament sense of the term. Forgiving involves absolution of sin. I CANNOT for example collectively forgive the German people and their descendants for systematically murdering millions of Jews. Only God can forgive them.

          • Sheila Warner

            You might find the documentary “Forgiving Dr Mengele” interesting, if you have not yet seen it. It’s on Netflix. It was in watching that film that I got a better understanding about how Jews view forgiveness. It’s a film that is bound to spark lively debate.

          • wildjew

            I am not signed up with Netflix. I have rented movies for a couple or so days at Amazon. I can’t say I am an expert about how to view forgiveness. My view of forgiveness comes from reading the Bible. Moses (at the mouth of God) commanded that we not bear a grudge against the sons of our people. Let me see if I can find it.

            Lev 19:17 ‘You shall not hate your fellow countryman in your heart; you may surely reprove your neighbor, but shall not incur sin because of him.

            ‘You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD.

            I don’t believe we have the right to forgive in the sense of forgiving someone for sinning against us or our people or our nation or our country. I certainly don’t have the right to forgive al-Qaeda for murdering thousands of Americans, do you? Wouldn’t that be insulting to all the grieving families if you or I said “We forgive them” for murdering your mother or your father or your sister or brother or son or daughter?

            Don’t you think that is the height of presumption?

          • Sheila Warner

            The attack on 9/11 was perpetrated against the USA. It was directed at all of us. Had I been in the World Trade Towers that morning, it would have been me that was (most likely) killed. I have been inside previously, so it is not a reach that it could have been me. In that sense, is my forgiveness. I don’t hold grudges not directed at me or my family directly, because if anyone doesn’t do anything to me, there is nothing to forgive. It’s a subtle nuance, I know. I’ve had people apologize on blogs for actions that did not affect me at all. I always tell them that they didn’t do anything to me, so there is no need to even ask me for forgiveness. The woman in the documentary was a surviving twin whose sister and she were tortured by Mengele. She decided to forgive him, not because he was worthy of forgiveness, but the bitterness she had was eating her alive. Then she forgave the German people who looked the other way during the Holocaust. The most interesting scenes were with her and other survivors, who excoriated her for her decision. They claimed that her decision somehow affected them. They yelled at her that she had no right to forgive anyone, as if she somehow had done it on their behalf. The whole issue of forgiveness within Judaism was fascinating.

          • wildjew

            I agree with those who were angry at her because she could be perceived as having done something on their behalf. A quick Google search on forgive yields the following:

            “Forgiveness is the intentional and voluntary process by which a victim undergoes a change in feelings and attitude regarding an offense, lets go of negative emotions such as revenge, with an increased ability to wish the offender well. Forgiveness is different from condoning (failing to see the action as wrong and in need of forgiveness), excusing (not holding the offender as responsible for the action), pardoning (granted by a representative of society, such as a judge), forgetting (removing awareness of the offence from consciousness), and reconciliation (restoration of a relationship). In certain contexts, forgiveness is a legal term for absolving or giving up all claims on account of debt, loan, obligation or other claims.” (Wikipedia)

            for·give (fr-gv, fôr-)
            1. To excuse for a fault or an offense; pardon.
            2. To renounce anger or resentment against.
            3. To absolve from payment of (a debt, for example)

            Like I wrote earlier, renouncing anger or resentment against someone can be a good thing, especially if it is a member of one’s tribe or family. Wikipedia’s definition “with an increased ability to wish the offender well” is problematic. Why should a victim of Nazi savagery wish her tormentors well? “Absolving or giving up all claims on account of debt, loan, obligation or other claims” is also very problematic. As I said earlier, only God can do this (for example) where it comes to what Germans did to non-Germans, Jews, Gypsies, Poles, Slaves, etc.

            You may recall, King David when he was young learned a hard lesson when he extended kindness to the wicked.

            2Sa 10:2 Then David said, “I will show kindness to Hanun the son of Nahash, just as his father showed kindness to me.” So David sent fnsome of his servants to console him concerning his father. But when David’s servants came to the land of the Ammonites, the princes of the Ammonites said to Hanun their lord,

            “Do you think that David is honoring your father because he has sent consolers to you? Has David not sent his servants to you in order to search the city, to spy it out and overthrow it?”

            So Hanun took David’s servants and shaved off half of their beards, and cut off their garments in the middle as far as their hips, and sent them away.

            The prophet Isaiah wrote:

            Isa 26:10 Though the wicked is shown favor, He does not learn righteousness; He deals unjustly in the land of uprightness, And does not perceive the majesty of the LORD.

            I would like to believe God has more wisdom about these things than mere mortals. When I hear someone publicly forgiving someone or some people (that did them or their family or their people a terrible wrong and) who might be and likely are wicked, I am reminded of the word of God. As a Christian, you must acknowledge the view of forgiveness (showing kindness) toward ones enemies or tomentors is very different in the Hebrew Bible than it is in the New Testament. Can you not see how different these texts are?

          • Sheila Warner

            Oh, yes, I absolutely do. And the woman in the documentary did not wish her Nazi tormentors well. She merely let go of her bitterness and left judgment up to God.

            When you see someone publicly forgive (as in after the Amish school shooting), you can’t read what is going on in that person’s heart. If there is a way to reconciliation, that’s great, but it’s not always possible. There can never be reconciliation with Nazis, that’s for sure. Yes, only God can ultimately forgive outright, but if we try to cultivate a forgiving attitude, conflicts can often be stopped instead of perpetrated. There absolutely needs to be both parties involved, one who is sorry, and one who is willing to accept that sorrow, for the perfect forgiveness to take place.

            In the case of the Muslims who murdered Americans, I can let go of hatred, while at the same time realizing that their hatred and danger remain. We must be vigilant. Who cares why they hate us? The fact is, they do, and they must be stopped from killing more people. When Osama bin Laden was killed, I was relieved but not jubilant. His death was necessary, for sure, but only God can mete out perfect justice. I don’t give OBL a second thought. He’s dead, he’s faced his creator, and that’s all I need to know. I don’t grit my teeth and seethe when I hear his name. I really don’t care about him because he did nothing to promote good in this world.

            I think we are kind of saying the same thing. Let’s face it, in the real world we will never have perfect forgiveness. Evil exists, and we need to fight it. I just don’t want to be consumed with hatred towards my enemies. Deal with them and be done with it.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>I am a Jew who respects all other religions and doesn’t make generalizations about other religions or groups.

            You don’t make generalizations about groups of people? You’re joking, right?

          • legal eagle

            The topic was religion not politics….LOL

          • T Ko

            Only the ones he chooses.

          • T Ko

            How do you define respect? Must be a very convoluted definition.

          • legal eagle

            and when did I claim to be a) a great legal mind or; b) discuss a legal issue which would make you form that opinion?

          • Sheila Warner

            You’ll get a response. It will either be an ad hominem attack, or else he will change the subject. Trying to debate legal eagle is like trying to hold oil in your hands. Any attempt to have substantive points discussed will just slip through your fingers. Give it time; you’ll find out all about it if you keep talking to le.

          • wildjew

            In a letter to Mark Volk, president of Lackawanna College in Scranton, Penn., CAIR-Philly Executive Director Jacob Bender expressed “the Muslim community’s deep concern and dismay at the decision of Lackawanna College and the Jewish Discovery Center to sponsor and promote a public lecture at Lackawanna College by Mordechai Kedar this coming Sunday January 12.”

            SEE: Islam vs. The West, A Community Lecture by Dr. Mordechai Kedar

            Bender’s letter noted that “Mr. Kedar has been known to make extremely racially charged remarks about Islam and Muslims on several occasions. For instance, on a video posted on YouTube:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Yh6YAjeYg

          • Brian Fr Langley

            I’m not sure what you’re claiming as bigotry? Sharia law specifically requires no Muslim to suffer a non Muslim as a neighbor? They are to offer peace (conversion) and if peace is rejected, then their neighbor has declared war (on them, you know, like reverse billing) and Jihad is the only response. Jihad can only be put off, if islam is weak in the moment, but NOT when it is not. Whether radical or moderate the these “laws” change not. Since when are facts, bigoted comment?

          • legal eagle

            Bigotry is making generalizations about groups of people…Religious writings are not justifications for actions, at least not in civil societies..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Bigotry is making generalizations about groups of people

            Like assuming people angry with Obama are old, white racists?

          • legal eagle

            What group am I generalizing about…old white racists?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Whenever someone criticizes Obama, you generalize them as “old white guys”, do you not?

          • Ted

            That would be me.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            You both do. You watch the same cable network.

          • Ted

            And here I thought you liked Fuxx Snooze, no?

          • T Ko

            John, am I locked out of the voting function? I vote…it doesn’t register…you know, it will show the vote when I make it, but when I come back to the site the vote is gone. Why?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I’m guessing there was just a lag. It’s working fine for me right now. How about you?

          • D Parri

            I’ve been experiencing the same thing. I’ve just posted an upvote to your comment…let’s see if it sticks.

          • D Parri

            I posted an upvote to your comment 8 hours ago, then signed out, and it is no longer there. There is definitely a bug somewhere in the process, or some restriction has been placed upon my account.

            In any case, there is no way I can register an up or down vote at all. However, I see where the ‘other side’ is posting votes anywhere they wish to. Kind of frustrating, if you know what I mean.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            As far as I can tell, there’s no restrictions on voting. Either you have access to comment AND vote OR neither.

            How long ago did you first start noticing this?

          • D Parri

            It has been almost a week, perhaps 5 days. I see that the vote that I had placed on your comments are not there. That is exactly what I have been talking about.

            The other question is, can you place a vote on my comments? Either up or down votes, can you place one on mine and see it. If you want to find out, then the only way to identify where it came from is to place an “up” vote. “Down” votes are not identified by who left it.

            I think you can see that my vote does not currently count. Maybe you can help.

          • D Parri

            Also, it appears that there are not many votes showing up by anyone recently. Have you noticed? Try leaving me an “up” vote. You can remove it later. (if ya’ really want to)

          • D Parri

            Even if I log in to Disqus first, it still doesn’t work. There is definitely a bug in the processes somewhere.

          • D Parri

            Yeah, JD, I did a little research on the Disqus system site. It looks like there could be an API problem which could be originating from either the Disqus side or the BG website side. Regardless, the problem exists.

          • D Parri

            Ok, I’ll try it again. I can see that you’ve posted a couple of votes that stuck. Let me try it now.

            Ok, I’ve posted two votes, one each to your two comments above. They appear now, but we can wait and see if they stay.

            I really think that either this site or Disqus is having some API problems.

          • kayakbob

            Hey D. Those were my ‘up-votes’. Just wanted to see if they took. Btw, I just learned that you can’t multiple hit a comment as a ‘guest’, cause I tried. First clicked the mouse with left hand..then the right hand. LOL. Had to be sure. ha!

          • D Parri

            Hey, K, thanks. I’ve tried to post comments and post votes, but to no avail. I will attempt to determine what has gone wrong. I think it is some API problem.
            If you hear of this problem somewhere else, please let me know. Thanks.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Sure you do, Ted.

          • T Ko

            RU?

          • Ted

            Don’t be stealing my thunder!

            And how come none of the ideologues here…..I mean the cons here have used their favorite slogan, “scandal” over this well, “scandal”. That inability to correctly label it properly is “scandalous”.

            And if Christie turns out to be the “heavy” (Oooops, he already is, doh!) then who will the GOP run against in 2016? The plot thickens.

          • T Ko

            Would work if you changed yours to MORON WEASEL.

          • legal eagle

            That’s Mr. Moron Weasel to you…LOL

          • T Ko

            Ok, Mr. MORON WEASEL.

          • Ted

            And here you were goin to (you’ll pardon the expression) “man-up” and shut up. Yet here you are again in all your insipidness. You’re the human equivalent of a root canal without being as clever.

          • T Ko

            Ok, then you are the human equivalent of a colonoscopy. And equally enjoyable.

          • Ted

            Most people are put under for that procedure. The Dr’s probably insisted on keeping you awake to see how much you’d enjoy it? Did you propose to the Dr while he did it?And losing all those arguments as you have, they all probably feel like a colonoscopy don’t they?

          • T Ko

            Bye, bye inappropriate Ted comment.

          • Ted

            My apologies! After you brought up the subject of colonoscopies and those too many to count emails w/ the word merde in them I had no idea how sensitive and easily injured your feelings were. Forgive me?

        • Ted

          Boy, I hope you’re not blaming W! Because the cons have a put a statute of limitations on this and it’s off limits now. At least if you’re a Dem. So, I’ll
          stop blaming W if the rt wing morons (is that redundant?) will stop mindlessly and kneejerkedly blaming the media. Deal?

    • legal eagle

      Could you please take the word Jew out of your ID? You are an embarrassment to us..

      • wildjew

        You speak for the Jews? Little doubt Moses is an embarrassment to you. David is an embarrassment to you. Abraham is an embarrassment to you.

        • legal eagle

          You statements are embarrassing and infantile…Don’t change the subject…

          • Integrity

            I think it is a valid question. Similar to ones you often post. Are you the speaker for the Jews? QED

          • legal eagle

            I am the speaker for rational Jews….

          • Integrity

            You mean the ones that are simple fractions? QED

          • Ted

            No, that was Charlton Heston as I recall.

          • Integrity

            Are you sure? I thought it was John Goodman who delivered the five commandments unto Bill Clinton. QED

          • Jeff Webb

            >>You(r) statements are embarrassing and infantile…Don’t change the subject…<<

            Wow. I'm just going to savor the irony here for a while…

          • Ted

            Have it w/ some crow.

          • Jeff Webb

            No thanks–I’ve already devoured an eagle.

          • T Ko

            Was that an eagle or a weasel?

          • Ted

            How is eagle w/Kool Aid?

          • Jeff Webb

            >>How is eagle w/Kool Aid?<<

            It was quite interesting. Despite all the Kool Aid he had guzzled over time, the taste was completely undetectable. Kinda like how you can't taste corn when eating corn-fed beef, I guess.

          • Ted

            Funny! However, judging from some of the comments here some have been drinking that new bullshit flavored Kool Aid.

          • Ted

            I’ve heard from my esteemed and environmentally sensitive con buddies that eagle tastes like a mixture between a condor, a spotted owl and a baby dolphin. Would you concur?

          • Jeff Webb

            Totally, and depending on how you cook it, you might also pick up a hint of dodo and/or pterodactyl.

          • T Ko

            Why is it that the most infantile and derogatory of posters only want to claim innocence when then boundaries are pushed to their limits?

            They have no concept of respect of others and the consideration of another’s mores and wishes.

            It makes them the classic hypocrite.

          • Ted

            Infantile? Check. No respect for others? Check. Hypocrite? Check. How ironically autobiographical a description of YOU your own words are! And how short and selective your memory is.

          • Integrity

            Looking in the mirror when you wrote that? QED

          • Ted

            Are you really this learning impaired?

          • Integrity

            Haven’t lost to you yet. You once plagiarized Rush Limbaugh stating that you could win the debate using only half of your brain. I suggest you use your full brain. Even with that, you are at a serious disadvantage. You have posted nothing yet that makes me consider you to be an intellectual. QED

          • Ted

            Two pts. One is oh, great person of intellect that plagiarizing is to take the writings of others w/out attribution not what they said. And two I was saying what I said way before Rash Windbag ever said it. Besides his line is he could beat them “w/ half his brain tied behind his back”. So, you were wrong about everything…….T’was ever thus.

          • Integrity

            So you must be a bitter old white guy? QED

          • Ted

            I’m neither but nice try!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            You’re not a guy?

          • Integrity

            So you are a racist? QED

          • Ted

            QED? BFD!

          • Integrity

            Integrity > TED. QED

      • Ted

        He sounds anti-semitic to me. Maybe I’m meshugena?

        • T Ko

          Or meshugenah, or mashugana? Yes, but only if you get it spelled correctly.

        • legal eagle

          I wouldn’t elevate wildjew to the level of meshugena….He’s not that bright…LOL

    • Eric Crittenden

      “Republicans, unlike Democrats, have historically been a party of moral and ethical standards…”

      Watergate? Iran/Contra? The S&L Scandal? Speaker Gingrich’s MANY affairs while impeaching President Clinton for a bj? Foleygate Page Scandal? US Attorney Scandal?

      Sorry, the last “ethical” Republican was Eisenhower who tried to warn us about the dangers of the Military/Industrial Complex… and furious conservatives called him a COMMIE!

      • wildjew

        How do I explain this. Let me give it a stab. Religious people who get caught sinning, especially doing things they’ve been condemning as immoral, what do we call them? We call them hypocrites.

        Author, radio talk show host, speaker, Dennis Prager argues in his book “Think a Second Time,” in his chapter “The Virtue of Hypocrisy, better to have standards (better to set a high moral bar) and be a hypocrite than have no standards. He wrote, “I don’t like hypocrisy, but I fear a world without it. As long as it continues to exist, it means that standards continue to exist. You can only have hypocrisy when you have standards.”

        Was Bill Clinton and most any other Democrat called a hypocrite? No. What standards do Clinton, Obama and the Democrats champion? Does the left does promote moral standards? Obama supports the most extreme form of abortion and if the child is born alive, Obama and the Democrats support letting the child die without any medical attention. That is murder?

        Where are the standards on the left?

  • barry soetoro

    Doesn’t Christie know that you can’t get away with crimes unless you’re a White Arab moslem fraud, committing crimes from the White House while pretending to be ‘Black?’

    • Ted

      Keep that up and you’ll give whackjob connedservatives a bad name. Ooops, too late!

  • D Parri

    It is fair to say that now that the ‘media‘ has ‘uncovered‘ this crime and corruption plaguing the Christie administration, the well-seasoned and ever-vigilant liberal press corps will be able to produce reams upon reams (digitally, of course, in keeping with the “green” campaign) of stories detailing the very core of motives to be found within the governor’s camp leading to this pinnacle of corruption known as “Bridge-Gate“.

    One quite familiar motive was found in the governor’s staff who wished to ‘push Granny off the cliff’, but could only manage to slow traffic on a bridge that was otherwise known to be a traffic challenge even before this event.

    Another theory already proffered and worth mentioning is the motive of political retribution by carrying out an act of “project endangerment”, as detailed by Steve Kornacki. ‘Korny’ or not, as it may sound, Mr. Kornacki believes that the real reason for conducting a traffic study prior to a billion dollar project of development being carried out in close proximity to the foot of the GW Bridge can be attributed to Gov. Christie’s desire to see the project fail–according to Mr. Kornacki. Based upon the prospect of new revenues flowing into the State’s coffers as a result of this development being completed and property values increased almost exponentially, it should be fair to reason that the governor would stand in strict opposition to any such development.

    Stay tuned for more stories…just like this one!

    • allen goldberg

      Why does this same media…NOT do the same for the ten scandals the Obama Administration in deep in??? Simply because, Christie is a “republican”, and Obama is their GUY!!!

      • legal eagle

        More victimization from a new whiner ……Poor Christie, the “media” is picking on him….WHAAA

        • allen goldberg

          Christie and his staff are 150% guilty. Period. anything else is childish.

          • legal eagle

            Nice attempt to change the subject….

          • allen goldberg

            Know what..HuffPo is calling….go impress those 4 watt minds……your infantile responses have no impact here.

          • T Ko

            No luck, sir weasel.

        • T Ko

          Poor Weasel, the intelligentsia is picking on him.

          WHAAAA!!!

        • Integrity

          It appears you have a new cult follower. Is he your new protege? Now maybe you won’t be so jealous of Bernie. QED

      • Ted

        Because merely calling something an ad populem scandal doesn’t make it one the wingnuts think it does.

        • allen goldberg

          Ted: A scandal is a “disgraceful or discreditable action”, to name a few, and the list is very long, Benghazi, the misuse of the IRS, lying 38 times to the entire country, lying about the circumstances surrounding the Iran nuclear discussions, changing laws that there is not legal basis to do so…the Executive branch does not make law…you merely want to stick your head in your backside and ignore the flagrant misuse of power, feel free. BUT, were the same circumstances to exist..and it was a conservative President and administration doing these illegal things..you would be howling at the moon. Why the obvious double ignorant standard? Oh, I forgot, I am a wing-nut, and you have all the answers, and the moral high ground with this lying Fraud and his entire fracking lying scum ball party.

          • Ted

            What are you trying to say? Subtle and a real master of the innuendo as always. For your fringe end of the fringe end to decry their relentless and clueless hypocrisy and dbl stds is a total laugh. Demagogues like you call everything that happens w/ Obama a “scandal” hoping that jf enough of you do it maybe you can convince yourselves of it? Too bad for rt wingnuts like you that merely calling something a scandal for partisan reasons isn’t enough to make it one. Bummer for ya!

          • allen goldberg

            Wow Ted: you really read at the second grade level. I am not trying to say..I have said. You cannot comprehend, so be it. By the way, you really need to brush up on your insulting skills. The same old insults, are a bit boring. Refusing to see real issues, scandals, and problems seems to be indigenous for liberals like you. Accusing me of double standards, when this Fraud in the White House, has violated the Constitution repeatedly, lied 38 times publically and even broken laws, been complicit in four murders in the terrorist attack in Benghazi, along with illegal gun trafficking to Mexico, and Syria…is quite a miss on your part. But rave on. I am sure you think you are entertaining.

          • Ted

            So, you say your President is complicit in 4 murders? You’re complicit in 4 examples of partisan and fear based stupidity. You’re the king of hyperbolic rhetoric and nonsense. But you already knew that didn’t you given how many times you’ve been shown that? Ok, then W was “complicit” in those 3,000 dead on 9/11 because he failed to protect us. And by your nonexistent “standards” Reagan personally murdered those 241 Marines in 1983 in Beirut, didn’t he? I like how your reasoning works. So where was all that immature anger and outrage over those deaths? Oh, that’s right your DNA renders you incapable of seeing any rt wing mistakes doesn’t it?
            So, I see where you’ve ignored Christie’s scandal haven’t you? Shocking that you can’t bring yourself to call a spade a spade. Not really.

          • allen goldberg

            Ted:

            Complicit means the act of helping to commit a crime or do wrong in some way. Your President was AWOL on that fateful night and there was
            a ‘stand-down’ order given to refuse the sending of help to those under attack
            for 9 hours!!!

            The Secretary of defense has testified that he did not give the order under oath. The President has refused to testify. And he is the only other person who can give that order.

            This President has publically lied about Obamacare.38 times, and many other items under this horrific law. He had Susan Rice lie five times
            about a minutely viewed video, causing Benghazi…blatantly untrue…..Then
            rewarded her by making her NS Adviser. His Secretary of State vehemently screamed it did not

            matter how these four Americans died. It is public record. And just about as vile a comment as I have heard in 45 years of listening to politics. I intend to shove this comment up her backside if she runs for President. Repeatedly.

            He has with Eric Holder refused to prosecute laws that he is bound by oath, to do. Holder is somehow under the impression he can decide what
            laws to enforce, as is Obama. [They are both wrong.]

            He has changed laws illegally. He is NOT allowed to do this. And he does it anyway. He has used the IRS to intimidate his political opponents. And
            then pretended to not know any of this after over 100 meetings with the IRS Commissioner.

            He has appointed people after illegally recessing the Senate.

            He has lied about his citizenship, his background and even his family relationships. His own brother confirms this. And his ties to enemies of
            this country are documented.

            He has direct ties with the Muslim brotherhood, and is a Islamic sympathizer. He is illegally forcing people to violate their religious principles and beliefs.

            Egyptian testimony ties him to illegal gun running and money movement to Al Qaeda through Syria. And the testimony was under oath.

            As far as George W., and his policies, I was then and still do disagree strongly with his fiscal policies,

            and the methods used in Iraq. The ignoring of the
            possibilities through the CIA and NSA are public record, and I said so publically. The staff and the previous president plus Congress removed funding
            from out Intelligence community, creating the lack of human intel on this horrible episode in our history. I lost friends at the Trade centers also. The terrorist attack that was in Reagan’s administration was
            tragic [I lost two friends] and I held the entire administration accountable and was extremely vocal…..during that era. In fact, filed to affidavits demanding answers as to why, we were totally asleep at the switch.

            You do not grasp, that our government, is limited by the Constitution. We made agreement 200+ years ago how to be governed. NO ONE gets the right and privilege to violate this agreement, just because they think it’s wrong, or disagree. We put in place a
            balanced system to split power into three branches, to stop this blatant misuse of power.

            Ted, I do disagree with his policies. But I would defend your right to disagree with me, and have done so, by being in harm’s way for my
            country. WE will never agree on these
            issues. But I refuse to allow anyone to take away your right to speak your mind, as empty and filled with complete liberal idiocy as it is.

            As far as Christie goes, the entire incident was 150% WRONG AND HE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. If he is shown to be directly involved, removed from office. Likewise the same rigorous standards should be applied to this President. Explain why this process is not being applied to him….and only the the louse in New Jersey?

            This President is a serial liar and a fraud and is a clear and present danger to you, your family and this country. Obviously you disagree. You are entitled to your opinion however misguided it is.

          • Ted

            So, you’re an admitted Birther and Bircher who’s swallowed hook, line and sinker all those insane, unvetted, chain emails and Youtube videos? Got it! Both Voltaire and I will defend to death (yours and his, not mine) your right to be paranoid and emphatically state that here for all to see. Well done!

          • allen goldberg

            Ted: I am neither. I hold four expert certifications in document analysis, two masters in business and a Phd in international business. The document the President showed in public, on T.V. April 2010 is simply fraudulent. I was asked to provide expert testimony and have done so in court. I do no give a frack what you think, what names you call me, nor the liberal spin you espouse. The fact that you would ignore real, facts, and reply in the infantile way do tells me what a simple ignorant child you are.

          • Ted

            Ok, you’re a demagogic ideologue and since we disagree, I’ll play your foil, the child. Feel better? Interesting that you claim to have seen a document on TV and determined it to be false. On TV mind you. This after the Republican Governor of Hawaii and even resident knucklehead Michele Bat sh*t Bachmann believes it to be authentic. Hence you’re a Birther. Plus you think he’s a Communist and Muslim sympathizer which makes you a Bircher with some college degrees that your comments belie. One would expect someone who claims the education you do to act like it intellectually. And let me also guess your 70 or older?

  • D Parri

    After hearing the wonderful jobs report released this past week, I think it is finally safe to say that we can declare the end of another “phony scandal” that has been plaguing the Obama administration for at least five years…and counting. The U.S. economy and jobs market have rebounded and we are clearly in a state of robust recovery–all thanks to the Obama economic and financial policies that have been implemented.

    Approximately 74,000 new jobs were added in December 2013, and although this is as low as has been reported since the Carter administration in 1978…who could possibly say that this isn’t a positive number? At least it wasn’t zero or a negative number, was it?

    Perhaps we will soon have hard evidence to be able to put to rest some of those other phony scandals such as the IRS targeting conservative groups prior to the last presidential election. We may well find out that those darned conservative groups probably asked the IRS to delay their application reviews until after the 2012 elections. Sneaky devils!

    • allen goldberg

      Do you actually know how full of horse manure the administration actually is? They ar serial LIARS> And the news media NEVER catches them on it.

    • Ted

      As low as the Carter Admin’s numbers? Huh? I’d say W’s minus 800,000 during his final month in office wins low month hands down. Plus you were ignorant of the fact that back the cold was at record lows.

  • D Parri

    It is certainly great to know that the IRS scandal (a “phony” scandal”) has now all been resolved and the only party guilty of any wrongdoing was one of those despicable conservatives, the FBI can now close their investigation.

    It was a good thing to see that the FBI didn’t stick their noses in too soon…perhaps they will want to postpone the beginning of any future investigations for a minimum of 12 months. Wouldn’t that be great!

    However, this investigation of Gov. Christie needs to get off the ground right away and should extend at least until after the 2016 elections.

    All of this, of course, according to the wishes of the left-wing activists who seek to cap the failed administration of the Obama presidency with a final ‘pile-driver’ right into the heart of a once healthy and promising U.S.A. Hillary would be up for that move…if it ‘made any difference’.

    • allen goldberg

      I like the sarcastic tone…..I wonder how many actually think you are serious.

      • D Parri

        It appears that the lefty whiners don’t see it as serious. Ted is about as whiney as they get.

        Now, you do understand that the Ted ID is just another ID for Legal Weasel, don’t you? He uses the Ted to express his more vile and vulgar side.

    • kayakbob

      D, I wonder why the NY media aren’t covering the ‘Bridge too Far’ story the “correct” way?..the big picture way? I mean, really. These closings happened this past Sept. If I read the timeline – cause everybody knows, ya gotta have a timeline in order to have a scandal, right? – then these closings fell on Sept. 9-13, 2013. Yes? Well, gee wiz. Sept. 13, 2013 is the start of Yom Kippur (The Day of Atonement) according to a Jewish friend.

      Ergo, these closings have “religious overtones”. Ergo, (I just like that word today), the “foreign policy implications” are huge. Does Israel respond? If so, how? And do these (remember: New Jersey) lane closings send a larger message to our friends, and foes alike, in the middle east? These questions seriously undermine Christie’s credibility for any Presidential aspirations.

      That’s the way they should be covering this.

      (For readers that are unsure – this is sarcasm. ok?)

      • D Parri

        Ergo…yes, I like it.

        Ergo, I am bounden to say that it would be of the upmost benefit to the Governor to submit to the most rigorous of reviews in order to thoroughly cleanse his reputation and put to rest any and all intimations of impropriety which could be attributable to him personally.

        Ergo, any investigatory body or service should be welcomed and afforded access as deemed appropriate to circumstance.

        Ergo, perhaps the NY media are in a position of knowledge and able to determine that there is likely no disparagement of the Governor forthcoming, but rather a sizable degree of media coverage that could benefit the Governor should all investigations conclude in an AAA+++ rating.

    • Ted

      Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

  • D Parri

    Bernie, you probably addressed the origin of almost everything that gets posted here, and it would likely apply to about 98% of everything that gets posted internet-wide and on all other forms of social media–regarding politics and government.

    The left doesn’t like the right, the right doesn’t like the left, and with today’s access to a ‘voice’ in public and social media via the developments in technology, those who want to speak out can do so with little or no restraint at all.

    In times past, there was a name and identity that usually followed the person making a comment, so there was the aspect of responsibility that preceded a comment, and the more vile and vehement the discourse…well, at least the poster could be assumed to have a pair if they made those comments.

    Unfortunately, there is now the ability to hide behind a keyboard and spit out any foolish, vile, or downright hateful comments that could be expected from an immature 12 year old that is simply having fun churning the dirt over and over again–to no one’s benefit.

    Sadly, it appears that this is our world today and nothing is going to miraculously change.

  • Paul Courtney

    Determined gullibility is the outstanding trait of the bottom-shelf lefties who troll this site. If “conservative mole in Cinci office” ends story, then one needn’t even consider why Ms. Lerner resigns and takes fifth instead of standing her ground and pointing to real culprit. Best not to think on that. Why aren’t these folks calling on NYT or network to really dig into this Issa and his witch hunts? You guys really think Issa would shy away from 2 hr press conf.? I may agree with him alot, but he’s not the type to run from a camera. So what are you all afraid of? Our lefty contributors refuse to see how a supine press hurts them, too. For instance, if NYT, WaPo, or even one network decided a year ago to look hard into progress of O’care website and reported, say, CGI failures or Sebelius underlings making impossible demands for features like Dilbert’s pointy-haired boss, might have exposed problems and fixes before Oct. 1, saved you all this painful distracting you’ve been forced into last few mos.

  • mikecowan424

    This is Bernie at his best!

  • ErnieLane

    Me: “Not only did the IRS target conservative groups, I think that Obama’s reelection was largely — maybe mainly — due to that.”

    The fool of the day: “Wrong! The reason the con applications took the IRS longer than the lib
    apps was that there were twice as many of the bogus requests.”

    You are either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid. Either way, you should stay out of serious discussion. You would be better served spending your time on liberal stories and comments, the kind where liberals give each other virtual BJ’s.

  • D Parri

    Ok, Bernie, like a solar flare…it appeared as strikingly bright and clear as anything emanating from the solar surface has ever glowed.

    The differences in the threat to our Democracy are simple. The Bridge-Gate ‘scandal’ involves a republican being held to account for any and all repercussions, and the IRS scandal was a much more insidious use of power for the purpose of supporting the election of a democrat candidate to the presidency of the United States of America.

    Although it may appear that the presidential election would be a more serious issue than a mere traffic jam, one only needs to take into consideration the candidates and the willingness to do whatever is necessary to achieve the desired outcome. That is, the IRS abuses of power are simply a ‘political strategy’ that have been validated by the re-election and second term of our current POTUS. No investigation has revealed an impropriety on the part of the president.

    However, Governor Christie has reaffirmed that someone has done a ‘bad thing’ by the very act of his firing those responsible. Such a definitive statement of wrongdoing deserves as much air-time as the media can afford…unfortunately.

    • Javafutter

      Except the IRS “scandal’ isn’t what Issa has said it was. It was resolved when the IRS official in Cincinnati, a self described conservative Republican, admitted he was the one who targeted those Tea Party groups because so many were requesting tax exempt status at the same time he wanted to codify the status. Everyone was granted that status and liberal groups were targeted as well.

      So Bernard Goldberg, who used to be a credible journalist, made the comparison using false information.

      I do agree, however, that if Christie had nothing to do with it then he should only be held accountable for hiring idiots.

      It’s a big news story because Christie is the only national Republican who represents what appears to be a somewhat sane, competent candidate; especially compared to tragically incompetent candidates from Bachmann to Pizza Guy.

      He is, at this moment anyway, the last hope for the GOP in 2016. He is also the only one I think could beat back the Tea Party based primaries.

      Although the anti-Middle Class Chamber of Commerce has seen the danger of the Tea Party and will pull back on funding of Tea Party candidates.

      • Ted

        And the self identified IRS conservative Republican from Cincinnati office testified under oath to idiotic Issa’s kangaroo court that there was no discrimination. Of course Issa left that part out of what he released.

      • D Parri

        It is certainly great to know that now it has all been resolved and the only party guilty of any wrongdoing was one of those despicable conservatives, the FBI can now close their investigation.

        It was a good thing to see that the FBI didn’t stick their noses in too soon…perhaps they will want to postpone the beginning of any future investigations for a minimum of 12 months. Wouldn’t that be great!

        However, this investigation of Gov. Christie needs to get off the ground right away and should extend at least until after the 2016 elections.

        That is, according to the wishes of the left-wing activists who seek to cap the failed administration of the Obama presidency with a final ‘pile-driver’ right into the heart of a once healthy and promising U.S.A.

        • T Ko

          News Alert, D, it has not been resolved. It’s not going to be as long as Hussein is in power.

    • Ted

      Oh, I thought you were conflating Bridgegate w/ all those illegal voter suppression efforts. You know, those efforts that violate the Constitution that all the cons here claim to support? How funny that the rt wing nuts scream like cats who’ve been set afire re: anything Obama does when he outsmarts the Tea Baggers but are fine w/ disenfranchising as many Dem voters as possible. You can’t be “strict” constructionists unless you support equal rights for all people. Remember how the south had to learn that lesson, too back as long ago as the 60′s?

      • D Parri

        To intimate anything of a racist attitude in your comment is very offensive to me and I don’t like your comment, Ted.

        I will flag it as inappropriate.

      • T Ko

        And which army did you encamp with, Union or Confederates?

        Neither? Then I guess your not qualified. AAAACKKK!!!

    • T Ko

      Yeah, if the situation involves a republican and there’s no real scandal, just wait. It doesn’t take the left long at all to pull another phony scandal from out of the hat.

      Bernie is right, the IRS scandal is all about a serious breach of trust within multiple layers and numerous personnel spanning several government divisions and departments, including the Whitehouse and the President. Why has there been no responsibility taken or actions taken to fix the problems?

      However, the “Bridge-gate” problem was investigated, parties involved were held accountable, and people were fired.

  • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

    Watch tomorrow for Bridget Anne Kelly to make an appearance on the Sunday talk shows. She’ll say the lane closures were a result of a despicable YouTube video.

    Anyone recall Barry conducting a two hour press conference answering questions over anyone of his numerous scandals?

    • Sheila Warner

      After Kelly blames the video, the producer will be hauled off to jail.

      • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

        No he won’t. He’ll suddenly faint and suffer The Immaculate Concussion and when he awakes he’ll say…what difference does it make.

        • Ted

          Cynical much? Ok, dumb question! You’re the merchant of great vapidity.

    • Javafutter

      Yes actually. He’s had many press conferences on many topics. I wish Issa, who illegally leaks partial information to the gullible, lazy media, and withholds evidence proving innocence, would also stand in front of a two hour press conference.

      Clearly the investigation by the NY Times, interviewing hundreds of Libyans who knew the attackers debunked most of what Issa said.

      And of course the IRS Scandale was resolved when the IRS official in Cincinnati, a self described conservative Republican, admitted he was the one who targeted those Tea Party groups because so many were requesting tax exempt status at the same time he wanted to codify the status. Everyone was granted that status and liberal groups were targeted as well.

      So Bernard Goldberg, who used to be a credible journalist, made the comparison using false information.

    • Ted

      The numerous scandals your side has trumped up? Are you really so clueless that you don’t know that technique Christie used is designed to lull the press to sleep as it did. Here’s the problem your side faces. Christie’s trying to run out the clock to avoid being subpoenaed. A threat that ends next Tuesday.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        >>Are you really so clueless that you don’t know that technique Christie used is designed to lull the press to sleep as it did.

        Ah yes. That zany technique of actually answering questions directly. How diabolical.

        • Ted

          Nice assumption on your part. How do you know if he answered the questions directly ir honesty? Hopefully, we’ll see. To you he’s innocent because he’s Repub. Got it!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            To you, he’s guilty because he’s Repub. Got it!

            Ted, Christy knows full well that the media actually investigates scandals involving Republican politicians. He knows that if he lies about something like that, it’s going to come out. Unlike with Democratic politicians, he doesn’t have the luxury of claiming a YouTube video was to blame, and counting on the media to shrug their shoulders and move on to something else.

          • legal eagle

            Another victimization rant by the right wingers…Straight out of the Roger Ailes playbook…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. Yes. Because calling out media bias for what it is isn’t exposing an injustice.- it’s a victimization rant. Legal, you crack me up.

          • legal eagle

            You believe that only the media who disagrees with your point of view is biased…..Explain to me why you believe coverage of the Christie story is biased?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>You believe that only the media who disagrees with your point of view is biased

            lol. Nope.

            >>Explain to me why you believe coverage of the Christie story is biased?

            The coverage itself is not biased. The amount of time the media is spending on it compared to how much time they spend on Democratic scandals is where the bias comes in.

            I’d love to see a single standard used every once in a while.

          • legal eagle

            There are thousands of media outlets…How in the world can anyone judge who spends what time on what subject? I know you understand that there is no way to quantify how much time the “media’ spends on a story….Bernie Goldberg cite of Brent Bozell as his source for quantifying media coverage is an embarrassment to Bernie..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>There are thousands of media outlets…How in the world can anyone judge who spends what time on what subject?

            Seriously? It’s called research. The Media Research Center and other groups do it all the time. They watch the major news networks and document what they spend their time reporting on.

            There’s no doubt that Brent Bozell is a conservative and spends his time documenting liberal media bias – but his numbers are rarely challenged because they’re cited and provable.

            But of course none of that matters to you since you get all of your news from Jay Carney.

          • T Ko

            Not hard. You should try to research an issue sometime…you might learn something, other than how to write insults like an eight year old.

          • legal eagle

            Same talking points used by Nixon’s defenders….Nixon didn’t know anything, it’s the Dems picking on him…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I think you replied to the wrong post.

          • legal eagle

            Must be stressed related….LOL

          • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

            And to you he’s guilty for the same reason. Christie at least stepped up to the plate answered questions whereas Barry prefers to allow lapdog Carney to take all the heat. Are you and “coffee cup” so stupid you cannot see through any one of these scandals. Solyndra, F&F, ObamaCare Lie (“You can keep your insurance period. No matter what”) , DOJ Wiretapping, (Holder signed off on it!) Benghazi, IRS, NSA, ext. These are all just conservative fabrications? There’s not a shred of truth? Was it a fabrication when 5 million people just lost their health insurance? Just the sheer number of scandals is mind boggling. Barry makes Nixon look like a rank amateur.

            C’mon even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while!

            This is nothing more than the MSM trying to shift the focus from ObamaCare and bury the unflattering comments from Duty. Robert Gates new book.

            Let’s be honest. In the early going if you watched ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and even though 4 Americans were killed, you never heard the word Benghazi. But every man, woman, and child who lives in America, and countless abroad, now knows about a lane closure in NJ.

          • Ted

            If I wanted to argue the regurgitated Hannity/Fox talking prs I’d debate them. Oh, and when did Solyndra become a scandal? Just because Obama had something to do w/ it?

          • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

            Listen brain dead. If you type in Soly Google pops with Solyndra Scandal. Why didn’t it pop with… Solyndra The Big Success Story? Because it was an abject failure costing taxpayers $535 million! Solyndra was only one of many that went belly up. Barry’s first term worked out well for his donors who got special access and taxpayer money for their failed ventures. BTW… If he had any brains and was serious about closing Gitmo he should declare it a government funded solar company guaranteeing it would shut down within a week.

            Don’t bother me anymore. You and “cafe latte” are starting to get quite annoying.

          • Ted

            I realize facts and reason elude you but fear based knuckleheaded demagogic ideologues like you think the fact that Solyndra went under makes it a “scandal”. Bullshit!

          • Ted

            Hey nimrod, try googling why Solyndra went under? recognizing how easy it is to do, I hate to confuse you w/ the facts but it was because the Chinese purposely sold their solar panels under mkt. a tactic they borrowed from US business models. No need to thank me for educating you.

          • T Ko

            Hey, that’s it! “Brain Dead-Ted“.

          • Tim Ned

            I am making the assumption that if Christie was directly involved, that the press conference would have been two minutes long. I am not a lawyer, but I don’t believe it is a stretch for me to state that what he said in a 100 minute press conference could and would be held against him.

            I don’t believe Christie is a Weiner, in both regards. And I believe that his handling of this corruption will be his finest hour to date as a politician. That of course if he wasn’t involved.

            But I believe the main question to ask from his press conference; do the victims of the GW bridge closing have the answers why? And then to ask if the victims of Benghazi and the IRS have answers? More questions were answered from a single press conference than months on the latter.

          • Ted

            Completely dodging the subpoena question id his finest hour? Better raise that bar!

          • T Ko

            Subpoena? Issued when?

          • Ted

            No! Are you that ill-informed you didn’t know he was asked if he’d obey a subpoena of his records and he dodged tge most important question of the press conference. The Jersey legislature has until Tuesday to serve one on Christie so he’d love to run out the clock on it.

          • Ted

            All the righties are grasping at straws and wishful thinkingly making the assumption that the length of his press conference equals him being honest as Reince Preibus has been making the rds saying. Just as him firing Kelly to your side makes him innocent. I have trouble believing he’d be that stupid not to stop it but we’ll see, won’t we?

          • T Ko

            And he’s guilty because of……being a republican? Not biased in the least…that’s refreshing!

        • T Ko

          Yes, but you have to remember, they were trumped up scandals. Phony, to be exact…or as the leftist playcard reads anyway.

  • ErnieLane

    Not only did the IRS target conservative groups, I think that Obama’s reelection was largely — maybe mainly — due to that. Do you remember how it was asked prior to the 2012 election, “where’s the Tea Party”? It was kind of thought that the Tea Party was silent because they weren’t all that enamored of Romney. Now we know it was because the IRS sat on all kinds of applications for tax-exempt status.

    • Ted

      Wrong! The reason the con applications took the IRS longer than the lib apps was that there were twice as many of the bogus requests.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        lol. You’re telling us that’s why Lois Lerner took the 5th? Because there were just too many requests to sort through?

        Good lord, Ted. Haven’t you an ounce of shame. Why not just blame it on George W. Bush and Halliburton?

        • Ted

          Do you see any mention of Lerner? Nope, then why create a bogus narrative w/ her? When you can’t dispute the facts, change the subject. As usual.

          • Integrity

            Which you just did. QED

          • T Ko

            It is the continuum of argument. That is, perpetuate an argumentative discussion, but never accede to any point proffered by the ‘other’ side.

            Whenever a point is lost in argument, change the subject and obfuscate if necessary. In doing so, you may always claim that the opposing party was arguing the wrong issue, or even the other side didn’t understand the subject.

            It is an insidious and dishonest strategy followed by those who are not capable of understanding the merits and weaknesses of more than one point of view. That is, it is a clear form of narcissism.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I didn’t change the subject at all.

            Just so I get this straight, you’re angry because I blew your argument out of the water by citing relevant facts that you’re choosing ignore?

            Sorry man, but if you expect me to be willfully ignorant of reality in order for you to win a debate, it’s not going to happen.

            Still no response to the “act of terror” or a substantial portion of your party subscribing to the “Truther” theory? Come on Ted. Where are you?

          • Ted

            So Benghazi wasn’t an act of terror? Imagine my chagrin? What do you call it then, a frat party? Do something different and try being honest with yourselves? What your side’s really pissed off about is that Obama’s the President and you can’t deal w/ not getting your way. Waaaaaaaa! The fact is that there are no longer enough caucasians to ensure a white Republican will win the Presidency and it’s going to continue to get worse. Dbl waaaaaaa! You and the Baggers are the party of spoiled little brats whose mommy and daddy never told you “no”. You’re fear based side has relentlessly shown how hard it is to deal w/ taking no for answer when you’ve never had to. Triple waaaaaa!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>So Benghazi wasn’t an act of terror?

            It was an act of terror and more importantly terrorISM, neither of which the Obama administration categorized it at the time.

            The rest of your post is so adolescent and incoherent that I half wonder if your grandson typed it. Nah, he probably has more sense than you.

          • Ted

            Res ipsa loquiter

        • T Ko

          But John, I thought that’s what the latest FBI report has revealed. Is it not George W. Bush’s fault for all of the increase in national debt from his inaugural date until the present? Oh…and all future debt that gets added, as well?

          Also, you know that the conservative right wing applications so severely clogged the processes that a ‘vast number’ of left-wing liberal groups suffered severe consequences also. Why, I’ve heard that some of them had to wait as much as 90 days for approval for their tax-exempt status. Just awful.

      • T Ko

        WRONG! But if you can’t tell the truth…then lie.

        • Ted

          You’re right. It was more than twice as many con apps.

          • T Ko

            WRONG! Again. But if one lie doesn’t work then tell two, or three….

            The number may be correct but the characterization of “bogus” is a lie. But like I said, back up the first lie with another.

          • Ted

            Why would you advocate a tactic that’s been demonstrably unsuccessful for you?

          • T Ko

            What? Asking for you to be honest? You’re right, it hasn’t worked yet.

  • Jerry

    Since when a traffic delay on the George Washington more threatening to our national security our willful gullibility and wanton ignorance over Benghazi, just because some idiots get their Obama Phone?? “Murder who you want, as many as you want, as often as you want, Mr. President. My Obama Phone is your hush money!”

  • Tim Ned

    One of the most confusing aspects of political leaders is their handling of controversies. It’s not the controversy that gets most politicians in trouble; it’s always the lying and cover-up. This is a defining moment in Chris Christie’s political career. If he was aware of the closure, he’s done. But if he wasn’t, than for me personally, he’s the type of candidate I could support. Political corruption at any level cannot stand and I want a politician that can own up to the corruption and face the press like Christie did. Something we seldom see in politicians today.

    • legal eagle

      Christie is the perfect candidate for some … an obnoxious bully…

      • Tim Ned

        Yes, how obnoxious for a politician to accept responsibility and stand before the press and take questions for 100 minutes.

        • T Ko

          It is certainly setting a terrible standard for the rest of them. Lord can only guess what would happen if they all started acting responsibly.

  • steelerdan

    Java, come on man, it’s car thief, not theif. For heaven’s sake, get a teleprompter. Five years of this yahoo and you guys still…….the guy has lied to you repeatly and you still follow. In to deep to quit now and admit this guy is a worthless commander in chief. Corpsman, what an idiot. Remember, I think from the third grade, ‘i’ before ‘e’ except after ‘c’.

  • Buzzeroo

    Somebody with the handle “Legal Eagle” commented as a guest, ” Don’t forget Obama associates with those colored folk too”. Clearly this nut has found my criticism of Obama’s propensity to associate himself with miscreants such as Bill Ayres and the miserably bigoted, anti-American,louse—Rev. Wright as an indication that I am a racist—–which is a totally false accusation that is about all that is left for Obama fans like him to use to support this failed president.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Legal Eagle thinks anyone who criticizes Obama is a racist. That’s what he’s known for on this website.

      • Ted

        And John Daly claims that anyone disagreeing with him is (wait for it) a political hack. That’s what he’s known for.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Ah Teddy… Disagreeing with me doesn’t make you a political hack. Repeatedly making up things to protect the political party you have pledged your allegiance to is what makes you a political hack.

          • Ted

            Typical of your end of the party, when you don’t like the facts because they destroy your argument you simply say they’re made up.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            What’s typical is you avoiding to respond to your own arguments being dismantled left and right. Your narratives are being killed left and right with facts, Ted, and you have no comment?

            Let’s hear about that “act of war” and how many Democrats are Truthers. We’re waiting, Ted.

          • T Ko

            If you can’t understand the points, then I can understand why you would make up your own narrative.

          • Ted

            The facts speak for themselves. You should try them sometime? Change of tactics might do you good?

          • T Ko

            Present some honest “facts” and I might listen. Otherwise, same deal.

        • legal eagle

          Daly thinks that people get paid to disagree with him…and he believes that racism ended with the Civil Right Act….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Nope. I think you SHOULD get paid for parroting lefty propaganda, because if you’re spending this much time doing it for free, that’s an injustice.

            And I don’t know ANYONE who thinks that racism ended with the Civil Rights Act, despite your insistence that anyone who doesn’t worship at the altar of Obama believes that.

          • T Ko

            Can you say worn out talking points?

          • T Ko

            Nope, it didn’t. We have a racist president and administration, and the left-wingers on this site are racists.

    • Ted

      Failed President? Sheesh! What did you call the guy who left Obama the disaster? Guy named W. You may have heard of him.

      • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

        2008-2014 still blaming Bush.

        Barry’s favorite quotes:

        “… A light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany … and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama” – Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire. January 2008

        This is my favorite.

        “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

        This is the most megalomaniacal line I have EVER heard from any politician. You would think if the Messiah is capable of this perceived “gift” the ObamaCare rollout should have been a piece of cake.

        • Ted

          W? Nothing? No?

      • cooper22

        So, Ted, love the back & forth here, that shows the division between liberals and conservatives- that disparage the middle-so where do YOU go for the truth? I can’t seem to find it lately! So Christy is a scumbag politician- where do I find that info that proves that? Where do I also go to see the results of the IRS investigation on the only “scandal” being the republican in Cincinnati ? Where do I go to see the final truthful reports on Benghazi, and Fast and Furious? Speaking of fast and furious- explain to me why Obama told Univision that fast and furious was a Bush program stopped by holder when it was public knowledge that it was not? God, how do we find out anything in this partisan world when you and other people on this site- seem to be intent on fighting for their side- it is so sophomoric and a real detriment to our young adults trying to access things to make the world a better place when all seem to be content to accept- I said it so it must be so! So, Ted, where do you go to read the truth?

        • Ted

          Here’s who I don’t go to unlike many cons here: WND, Judicialwatch, Breitbart, Drudge, Townhall, Glenn Bleccch, Rash Windbag or Sean Inanity, Wayne LaPierre and/ or Alex Smith.
          And who said Christie was a scumbag? Ironic when Obama says he didn’t know the cons say he’s incompetent or lying But when Christie says it it means he’s innocent. Pfffft!

          • cooper22

            Ted, thank you for the response of where you don’t go- but my question was – where do you go – not to get opinion writings but for just the facts? I understand that the ones you listed are conservative sights- I do think judicial watch and townhall tend to give more facts than the others, obviously you do not agree – is there a site that perhaps gives a synopsis of the actual investigation findings on fast and furious and benghazi and IRS investigation? What exactly have Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc said that is misleading? Some examples please. Don’t really listen to them much. I do find Limbaugh much more entertaining and interesting than Hannity- he is like a broken record. But not really looking for entertainment. You also didn’t give an answer as to why the president would answer in the way he did on fast and furious – disconcerting that with all the press about it, he really didn’t know?? You take on that one please.

      • T Ko

        George W was a saint compared to Hussein.

        • Ted

          Ya gotta warn me when you say sh*t like that! What if I’d been drinking milk at the time you said that? My abs hurt from laughing so hard. Whew! Need to catch my breath!

          • T Ko

            So, you laugh at Hussein being compared to a president? Yeah, that is funny. Now I get it! LOL!!!

          • Ted

            Ok, ok. W is better than Saddam Hussein although you sound like he Saddamized you repeatedly.

          • T Ko

            Now, why are you trying to be downright vile and disgusting? Do you know how to act any other way?

          • T Ko

            Ok, Ted, let’s get a little attention over here to this exchange so that it can be seen where I’ve flagged your comment.

            You are saying that someone has Saddamized me?

            Is that the same as Legal Weasel fucking you in the butt?

            Your comment and mine should be removed. How’s that?

          • Ted

            I thought you were? Was I wrong for the first? If so, then my bad!

          • Ted

            To do as you say one would need to purposely mispronounce the word “Saddam”. Or pronounce it as GHW Bush as did. Or was that how you always pronounce it? Inquiring minds want to know?

  • steelerdan

    First, let me just say I do not care for Christie and would never vote for him. Anyone involved with this lane closing is a petty fool. Who would even consider
    doing something so ignorant, a politician.
    Those of you, Ted, that try and compare this with Obama are even more foolish.
    Ted’s statement “shouldn’t the facts shape the narrative”, REALLY??? Let us
    see. Half a dozen or more scandals, that Obama himself says are phony. Scandals that he knew nothing about, scandals he the person in charge accepts
    absolutely no responsibility but, we are looking into it and those responsible
    will be held accountable. Guess they are still looking into all those scandals.
    Wonder why, with all the resources available, they can’t find anything. Hmm.
    I just don’t get how anyone can still support a man like Obama. I don’t care if you are liberal, conservative, Dem., Rep., right wing, left wing are you foolish
    enough to be lied to, cheated and still support the guy. Selectiveness, that’s
    it, I got it now. Jesus

  • Dennis

    What do you expect? Does anyone still expect the ‘We Love Barack’ media to act professionally, objectively and responsibly? Their response is as predictable as the sunrise and is actually getting to be old news. Do you really expect the same people who cover for the most dishonest pres of at least my lifetime, and I am old enough to remember Nixon, to not do whatever they can to discredit a Republican, any Republican?
    When the dust settles, and it will, this will just make the Chicago Con Man look even worse and his knee-padded media toadies as well.

  • Javafutter

    I remember when Bernard Goldberg quit CBS because he said it was becoming a liberally biased news network and he hated Dan Rather.

    And so instead of doing real journalism he posts the conservatively biased and, in the case of this IRS ‘scandal’ completely false accounting ot the events.

    The reality is the Darryl Issa refused to release the truth; that a self described Conservative Republican working in the IRS Cincinnati office, was the one who targeted the dozens and dozens of Tea Party groups requesting tax exempt status.

    I’ve come to expect that kind of deceit from the car theif Issa, but Goldberg claims to care about journalism and he should know better.

    • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

      “False Accounting”?

      You mean it was all to do with those “low level rogue employees in Cincinnati”?

      You mean since 2010 when Barry had 322 combined visits (documented) from IRS official’s Shulman and Sarah Hall Ingram. Is anyone truly going to swallow, they never, not once, talked about targeting conservatives?

      This is beyond absurd— it’s inconceivable!

      • Javafutter

        Once again you are believing Tucker Carlson’s “Daily Caller” story about visits to the White House by IRS Commissioner.

        But the conservative leaning Forbes Magazine tells a different story about visits to the White House.

        Once again you are taking lies and innuendo and turning it into a crime. Read this article if you dare.

        The vast majority of meetings in the White House were to work on implementing the Affordable Care Act. And he didn’t meet 157 times.

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/07/07/oops-it-turns-out-irs-commissioner-did-not-visit-the-white-house-157-times-after-all/

        • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

          And I could give you 50 URL’s that support what I said…

          So why did Lois Lerner plead the 5th?

          Was she one of those “low level rogue employees in Cincinnati”?

          How do you explain her emails that clearly attack conservatives? (Please don’t give me the crap Democrats were targeted too)

          Why did she resign if there was no IRS scandal?

          Mainly because of the TeaParty the Democrats were slaughtered in the House in 2010. Even Barry referred to it has a “shellacking” and as bewildering as this may sound shortly thereafter is when the IRS started targeting the TeaParty. Helen Keller could connect the dots.

          Did it ever occur to you Christie may be telling the truth? I don’t know for sure but I do know this. Barry and his thugs have created a government in which there is now no reality. Nobody is in charge of anything and senior people don’t manage anyone. Nobody remembers anything. Nobody is accountable for anything. Nobody talks to anybody. Somebody unnamed somewhere is responsible for violating federal law but nobody knows who they are. In short, the federal government, according to them, has no clue what is going on. A country governed so corruptly cannot possibly last. This is nothing but lie piled upon lie piled upon lie. We are now the government of North Korea on a larger scale. To avoid their corruption being outed, these crooks plead the “Idiot’s Defense.” We have no idea what the hell we are doing. We are poorly managed and therefore cannot possibly get a handle on anything. Nobody here has seen or heard anything. We wait to hear about what we have actually done throughout the work day when it is reported on the nightly news.

          I rest my case.

          • Javafutter

            I don’t know why this George W Bush appointee pleaded the 5th. Do you? I could easily speculate that as a Bush appointee she wanted to burn Obama and make him look bad. But then I’d be like you, making accusations with no evidence.

        • legal eagle

          Do you expect ideologues to read anything but right wing nonsense? The Daily Caller should be renamed the Daily B.S…

    • Dennis

      Javafutter

      You not only drink the kool aid but you must swim and bathe in it as well. You are probably the only one in America that still believes the lie about the renegade IRS employee in Cincinnati. It must be nice to be able to go thru life as delusional as you are and just believe whatever you want and if you believe it enough it becomes your reality. No wonder the Chicago Con Man so easily fooled you. You were begging for it.

      • Javafutter

        You say it was a lie but you show no evidence whatsoever that it’s a lie. This was the sworn testimony from the IRS employee himself.

        When someone show facts from credible sources, such as Forbes, he is not drinking Kool-Aid he is drinking the truth.

        When you accuse that person of believing lies without evidence to support it maybe it’s you who’s drinking the Kool-Aid.

        • Sheila Warner

          Except it was Lerner who first admitted the wrongdoing, not someone on any committee hearing. I recall the workers at the Cincinnati office were angry when they were thrown under the bus.

          • legal eagle

            What exactly does Lois Lerner have to do with the issue of Chris Christie? As the authority on everything New Jersey maybe you can explain it to us?

          • Sheila Warner

            Did you even read the thread that prompted what I said? It was about the IRS, not Chris Christie. Sheesh, keep up, man!

          • legal eagle

            “Christie used some portion of Sandy relief funds for marketing campaigns promoting the state’s rebuilding to attract tourists, which is a defensible expenditure. The trouble is that he chose a firm that bid $4.7 million for ads that featured Christie and his family, rather than a $2.5 million bid for ads that did not feature Christie.”
            What’s the excuse on this one Ms. Warner?

          • Sheila Warner

            Your M.O. at work again. I was discussing the IRS with another person, you chimed in with something unrelated, I told you why it was unrelated, then you change the subject again.

            As to the new subject of the tourism campaign ads, we will wait and see where this newest investigation leads. All we have is the accusation. Until we learn what took place in the process, any comments would be speculative. Lowest bids are not necessarily best bids. I expect this from the media. The controversy over the ads was well covered locally here in the state of NJ before this latest salvo. Since you don’t live here, you didn’t know that.

            Again, I will wait and see how this latest skirmish unfolds.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      >>I remember when Bernard Goldberg quit CBS because he said it was becoming a liberally biased news network and he hated Dan Rather.

      Then your memory is pretty awful because that’s a total misrepresentation of how CBS and Bernie parted ways.

      • legal eagle

        Bernie Goldberg quit CBS because he hated Dan Rather? LOL

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Glad you found the same ridiculousness in it that I did.

          • legal eagle

            You claim that Goldberg quit CBS because he hated Dan Rather, then you say that’s ridiculous…..What am I missing?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            You missed that it was Javafutter who said that. Not me.

    • Acu-Vue

      Just a tip for. In the future, you may want to consider proof reading your comments. You can’t afford to lose more of the little credibility you have!

    • Drew Page

      So that’s why Louis Lerner hid behind the Fifth Amendment and then resigned and retired. She didn’t want to embarrass the conservative Republicans working in the Cincinnati IRS office. You are such a tool.

      • Ted

        Were you as pissed off when Wildstein took the fifth recently or did you only object when Dem Lois Lerner did the same thing? One sided, partisanship.

        • legal eagle

          One sided partisanship on this site? You’ve got to be kidding…LOL

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            You bring it to us every day, l.e.

          • legal eagle

            It’s not one sided when you and your cult members disagree with any facts presented to them…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Facts, or left-wing talking points? They’re rarely the same.

    • Jeff Webb

      Java, defamation is a violation of the site rules, and it is a matter of public record that a judge dismissed the car theft charges against Rep. Issa.

      You can either take back what you said, or edit it out of your comment. If you don’t, it will be done for you.

      • Ted

        Funny how every site has a blog nazi. Congrats, have you found a home!

        • Integrity

          and a troll. QED

          • Ted

            Nice to meet you!

          • Integrity

            Pot calling kettle black. QED

        • Jeff Webb

          >>Funny how every site has a blog nazi. Congrats, have you found a home!<<

          Awww, poor you, having to witness an administrator actually enforcing a key rule on this site. If being a petty little name-caller helps you to deal with it, then God bless.

          • Ted

            If I were guilty of anything except dispensing a thorough ass whooping then you’d have a point besides the one atop your head. Given the times you’ve been on the receiving end you know exactly how that feels.
            The hard cons on these sites come here for affirmation, consensus, nutjob, ad populem fellowship which stupidly breeds an undeserving sense of ownership. And when they get their political asses intellectually kicked they try and censure those doing the ass kicking. Res ipsa loquiter.

          • Jeff Webb

            You’ve broken no rules here, Ted, so most of your comment seems out of left field (so to speak).

            For someone so proud of your “ass-whooping” ability, you sure have a hard time responding to inconvenient questions. Are you under the impression that your ducking a challenge means you weren’t challenged?

      • legal eagle

        Time for Officer Webb to put his foot down…You cannot defame a Republican on this site….LOL

        • Integrity

          Shouldn’t you at least be able to support the allegation? QED

          • legal eagle

            Issa was charged with car theft but was not convicted so according to Jeff Webb it’s a sin to refer to Issa as a car thief? It’s certainly not defamation as politicians are public figures…and there seems to be some need to protect Darrell Issa by Jeff Webb….
            Maybe you can check with Jeff Webb and find out why he pops up every time anyone mentions Issa’s past?

          • Jeff Webb

            Gee, were you lying when you originally told me you respected the rule?

            In case you forgot, it was when you said the same thing about the congressman, and I put you in your place.

          • legal eagle

            This is a rule you apparently choose to apply only when Darrell Issa is the subject…the statement about Issa is hardly defamatory so I have to assume there is some other agenda here…

          • Jeff Webb

            >>…the statement about Issa is hardly defamatory so I have to assume there is some other agenda here…<<

            It's actually a clear-cut example of defamation. I don't know whether I should be amused or amazed that you don't see that. Regardless, I explained the rule sufficiently when I dealt with you the first time.

            What, you suppose I'd let it slide if, say, someone were to call Bill Clinton a rapist?

          • legal eagle

            I don’t give a damn what you call Bill Clinton and I do not make the rules on this site….You are making a false equivalent….but what else is new?

          • Jeff Webb

            >>I don’t give a damn what you call Bill Clinton and I do not make the rules on this site….You are making a false equivalent….<<

            No, I responded to your suggestion that I wouldn't enforce the rules when a liberal is the target. Stupid attempt at distraction on your part.

            I'll ask again, and this time don't sidestep: because I don't let it slide when people say a conservative actually committed the crime for which he was only accused, do you think I would let it slide if someone says a liberal actually committed the crime for which he was only accused?

          • legal eagle

            How would I know what you would or wouldn’t do? I’m not in the speculation business…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >> I’m not in the speculation business…

            Except for when it comes to who are old, white racists and who aren’t, right?

          • legal eagle

            You seem a little feisty today? Are you having a bad day or are you obsessed that old white racists actually exist?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Not feisty. Just always taken back by your astonishing lack of self-awareness.

            And defending your assertions by pointing out that racists exist would be like me accusing you of being a drug-dealer because drug-dealers exist.

            See how silly your view of the world is?

          • legal eagle

            Objection denied….Move on..LOL

          • legal eagle

            I forgot….In 1964 Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Bill and received the Republican Presidential nomination as well as about 40 million votes….Not much has changed in the past 50 years among Republicans..

          • Jeff Webb

            A) I doubt I would’ve done the same thing in his shoes, but Goldwater’s vote wasn’t based on racism.

            B) A higher % of Republicans voted in favor.

            Back to the subject at hand: since you aren’t in the speculation business, that must mean you take back your assumptions about my defense of Rep. Issa, right?

          • legal eagle

            I have no idea why you are protective of Darrel Issa….as Issa is a public figure, your objection has, in my opinion, no legal basis…

          • legal eagle

            As usual nothing is based on racism according to Republican cult members…George Wallace claimed his actions were based upon states rights…McCain voted against MLK day…that was based upon “too many federal holidays”…want more examples ?

          • Jeff Webb

            >>As usual nothing is based on racism according to Republican cult members…George Wallace claimed his actions were based upon states rights…McCain voted against MLK day…that was based upon “too many
            federal holidays”<<

            Wallace was a democrat, genius.

            So, now you're speculating that various Republicans' votes on differing bills were motivated by racism, and you speculated before that there was some sort of agenda behind my enforcement of site rules, YET you're not in the speculation business.

            Run along now–you've embarrassed yourself enough with your little cop-out.

          • legal eagle

            Sometimes I can’t tell if you’re just playing dumb or you really can’t connect the dots….You asked me what I thought you would do in the future and I said I couldn’t speculate…So now every opinion I give is speculation?
            Are you off your meds?

          • Jeff Webb

            So now it’s the semantics game. You weren’t speculating, you merely gave your OPINION.

            Okay, I won’t ask you to speculate. Is it your OPINION that I don’t think democrats deserve the same defense from defamation as Republicans, since in your OPINION I’ve been giving Rep. Isssa preferential treatment?

          • legal eagle

            I have no idea which comments you delete on this site as I can’t see the deleted entries. Perhaps I differ with you in what you consider defamatory. I am looking at it from a legal viewpoint, you appear to be interpreting defamation a different way…Fine with me…

          • Jeff Webb

            You still avoid the question like a little coward–shocker.

            Check & mate.

          • legal eagle

            What’s the question Mr. Big Shot?

          • Jeff Webb

            And now you toy around as if you weren’t asked.

            Go away, son–you’ve humiliated yourself enough.

          • I Hate Fascists

            No one more cowardly than you who compared those who use the mass shooting of children at Newtown to advocate for gun control, including the Newtown parents, to NAMBLA child molesters. Now turning to your insipid question. Of course you would let it slide. Why wouldn’t you? You have made abundantly clear your contempt for liberals in general and Obama in particular.

          • Jeff Webb

            Evidently you haven’t humiliated YOURSELF enough.

            Y’know, after all the time I’ve spent in your head, the least you could do is tidy up a bit and serve snacks.

          • I Hate Fascists

            Your incoherent non-response speaks volumes you cantankerous old SOB

          • I Hate Fascists

            Who’s the coward now?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Your evidence of institutional racism within the Republican party is a Democratic segregationist from the 1960s and a ‘no’ vote for MLK day 30 years ago?

            You’re a lawyer aren’t you? Is it too much of a cheap shot for me to ask you if you’ve ever won a case?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Please explain to me how the modern day Republican party has done the equivalent of voting against the Civil Rights Bill.

          • legal eagle

            Maybe you should look up the legal definition of defamation….Oh, I forgot, you’d have to do a little research…

          • legal eagle

            I can respect the rule…I’d like to know who it applies to other than Darrell Issa?

  • John H
    • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

      She was 91 years old and this is the truth according to her own daughter!

      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/nyregion/woman-says-lane-closings-were-not-to-blame-for-her-mothers-death.html?_r=0

      BTW…My Hamster died because the ambulance couldn’t get here because of the lane closure.

      • John H

        And her daughter is not the final authority.

        • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

          You’re right… Christie killed her. In the same fashion as Romney knocking off Joe Soptic’s wife.

          • John H

            That’s not what I’m saying, genius. Sheesh. You aren’t very bright.

          • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

            Guess I am stupid. When you said…

            “Someone died in this incident! Don’t believe me? Look at this link”

            Sure as hell sounded like you were pointing the finger at someone.

            BTW…Roger Ebert died. If you call now you can get his job.

          • Drew Page

            Then what the hell are you saying? Seems to me you are looking to blame someone. Who might that be?

        • Sheila Warner

          Even the paramedics said her mother could not be pronounced until she reached the hospital. She was unable to be resuscitated by the paramedics, who do not have the authority under the law to pronounce. In NJ if an ambulance is called, paramedics are required to resuscitate, period. Once CPR is begun, it must be continued until the ambulance arrives at the hospital. If the patient cannot be resuscitated at the hospital, that patient is pronounced by an authorized person.

          As an FYI for those out there with relatives who have a DNR–once you call the ambulance, even with a DNR, the paramedics are required to attempt resuscitation. That’s the law in NJ, anyway. I’m an LPN, so I know this.

      • legal eagle

        Quite a dick….

    • Drew Page

      There you have it, proof positive, Christie did it. And of course you have the facts that conclusively prove that this 91 year old woman died because the ambulance couldn’t get to her in time to save her life. And you know for a fact that Christie ordered the lane closures, probably because he wanted someone in need of emergency medical care to die as pay-back to a Democrat Mayor who didn’t vote for him in an election that he won by a landslide. That would make it pre-meditated murder. Why aren’t you calling for the death penalty for Christie? Better yet, don’t wait for an investigation, or a trial or a verdict? You know he’s guilty, why don’t you form the lynch mob now and string him up?
      How many years has that bridge been open and unobstructed? How many millions of vehicles have passed over that bridge during those years? How many 91 year old people died during those years while the lanes on that bridge were open and unobstructed?

    • Sheila Warner

      Dershowitz is speculating in the article. “If” it can be proven that the 91 year old woman died as a result of the traffic jam, is what he postulated. And then insinuated that Gov Christie could face prosecution. Gov Christie did not order the lane closures. So, that big IF would be applied to the aides who engineered this stupidity. Did you know that the dead woman’s daughter does not believe that the delay caused her mother’s death?

      • D Parri

        Take a look at this article from the NYT’s. Her daughter did not think it was due to the traffic snarls.
        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/nyregion/woman-says-lane-closings-were-not-to-blame-for-her-mothers-death.html?_r=0

        Who are you more willing to place your trust in, a blood relative–the woman’s own daughter, or a political activist lawyer who clearly has a political axe to grind and agenda to fill?

        My money is on the daughter.

        • Sheila Warner

          Re-read my comment. I agree with you.

          • D Parri

            Sorry, Sheila, I didn’t mean it to sound like a disagreement but, rather, I simply wanted to cite an article wherein the daughter is quoted.

            Yes, we are in agreement.

    • D Parri
      • John H

        And the daughter is not the final authority on this!

        • Sheila Warner

          The daughter was there, the reporter was not. The daughter got her information from the medical personnel who treated her mother. HIPPA laws prevent the medical personnel from discussing the mother’s medical status and treatment except to the authorized person in charge of the mother’s care in the family, which was the daughter. The daughter knows the ins and outs of what happened to her mother medically. You do not, nor does any reporter. That’s why I believe the daughter. Plus, as I stated in another comment, her mother was likely already dead when the paramedics arrived, but due to state law, they were obligated to try to resuscitate her upon their arrival. If you are in the medical field, you realize these facts.

        • D Parri

          But Alan Dershowitz is? Sorry, John, but I would believe the daughter–who has standing, by the way, to bring a civil suit–before I would follow the tracks of a decidedly political activist lawyer who has a personal motivation for having his name published.

          But you go ahead and do that. The only thing I am after is to make it known what has been said by all parties with interests other than those seeking to skewer Gov. Christie.

  • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

    I couldn’t agree more. I’m not a big fan of Christie’s. But this story is so overblown it makes me sick. For starters how do you compare lane closures with 4 dead Americans in Benghazi, and 2 more in F&F, not to mention countless Mexicans?

    Even Wikipedia is getting on board with: Fort Lee Lane Closure Scandal

    Funny, when I typed in DOJ Wiretapping I couldn’t get a hit on Wikipedia. With all the coverage you would think Christie actually murdered someone. But I guess getting away with murder is solely reserved for the guy in the WH. Surely, at the very least, this lane closure has got to be right up there with, “You can keep your insurance period. No matter what.”

    Christie is being accused of using a government agency for his own political gain, or as they like to say… political retribution. Lets see… didn’t Barry do that with the IRS targeting conservatives? Barry called it “outrageous” but so far not one person who was targeted by the IRS has been contacted by the FBI which makes that a scandal onto itself.

    To bad the attack dog media doesn’t go after “lying milk toast Barry” and his plethora of scandals with the same zeal.

    BTW…If a similiar situation occurred like this in Mississippi we would never heard a word about it.

    • Sheila Warner

      Just curious–are you living in NJ? If so, for how long?

      • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

        Can’t tell you. Liberals hate me. Muslims even more. Can’t say I could be more proud.

        • Sheila Warner

          Why can’t you tell me? I’ve lived in NJ all of my life, so my POV on NJ is somewhat different from the national news frenzy. I’m despised by the Left and the Right, so it seems we’re in good company.

  • Gratefulconservative

    Seems to me, the New York Times is nothing more than a democrat propaganda rag with zero credibility. Why do sensible people keep reading their trash?!!!

    • http://hemingwayreport.blogspot.com/ MerchantofVenom

      Where they going to turn to… WA PO? I like when the NYT’s said Barry “misspoke” when he said, “You can keep your insurance period. No matter what.”

      Like they only have 27 different videos of him stating the exact same thing.

  • D Parri

    On Bill O’Reilly on Friday night this week Bernie advanced one theory about why the Bridge-gate issue is getting so much attention, as opposed to the IRS targeting of NFP groups affiliated with the Tea Party. Mr. Goldberg stated that the traffic snarls and delays affected many working journalists who have some ‘skin in the game’ because they were directly impacted via their daily commutes on the GW Bridge. I tend to agree with Bernie in this proposition.

    It will be interesting to see what the media coverage will be later this year when multitudes of journalists are directly impacted by the implementation of Obamacare. Corporate media employers will be experiencing many of the same difficulties as the rest of America–with the exclusion of those receiving waivers and exemptions.

    I suspect that Bernie’s theory of increased interest among journalists who begin to feel the pain that they’ve only carried shallow and patronizing coverage of the first wave of mandatory enrollees will soon change the media’s focus of interest.

    Is there any wonder why the employer mandate was delayed for one year–till after the election?

    • Kathie Ampela

      I know someone who got a letter in the mail this week telling them the insurance they had for years was cancelled. He buys health insurance for himself and his family as he is a small business owner. The letter told him that because of the new healthcare law his coverage was cancelled and was being put on a different plan for $350 more a month. The plan offers less coverage and doesn’t go into effect until Feb. 1 so he and his family won’t have coverage until Feb. 1 (the guy’s a diabetic and has other health issues) This convenient “scandal” offers a welcome distraction and a weapon to use against Christie, Hillary’s greatest threat. But there’s no way stop the consequences of Obamacare, they can only try to divert and distract. If this is the best they got against Christie it would be more than easy, it would be a cake walk for the GOP and conservatives to happily remind everyone of Hillary’s scandals…Travelgate, anyone? http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51867#.UtFlnJuBQXw Abuse of power, much? Conservatives and GOP establishment types don’t like Christie either yet they don’t want to lose him so I guess they’ll save the big guns for 2016? Who knows, but ultimately it will be Obamacare that will be the game changer.

      • D Parri

        K, I predict that the volume of stories just like this are going to increase into the millions. The 2014 offerings of healthcare experiences are not going to be nice.

        Not trying to ring my own bell, so to speak, but I had predicted this outcome was forthcoming as soon as the bill was passed and placed into law.

        Can we now be sure that Nancy Pelosi has read the law and that she knows what is in it? Perhaps she never intended to read it.

        • Sheila Warner

          I, too, knew this would be a debacle right from the start. How did people expect lower prices on fantastic insurance policies when the government was adding millions to a new healthcare program, forcing insurers to take all comers no matter what their health is, keep kids on plans until 26, and deny lifetime caps? You only had to do the math. Insurance companies either have to cancel policies or raise prices in order to stay in business. The money to pay out all of the increased claims has to come from somewhere. Either higher premiums or a government bail out.

          • D Parri

            Yes, and the restructuring of the insurance industry also entailed gaining a very tight hold–eventually–upon the healthcare industry by specifying what doctors can and cannot do for reimbursement, along with all other aspects involved with that care.

            The premise of a ‘lollipops and rainbows’ healthcare plan was simply a selling tool that Obama was able to use–without recourse–as he worked to persuade the public of this “fantastic” plan.

            If they haven’t determined it yet…they will, that the only change needed to make it work is to change the terminology. No longer is it a “fantastic” plan, but rather a “fantasy” plan. It’s not real.

  • Will Swoboda

    Reasoning doesn’t seem to be a strong suit for left of center democrates.

  • SkyCitizen

    Bernie, Seattle Sam called it by questioning Christie’s hiring judgment. These types of folks may be good hires in Chicago or New Jersey but certainly not in national politics. However, although they have lost there jobs it is evident that they are perfectly suited for the Obama Administration where job security is guaranteed.

  • Ted

    Bernie,the answer to your leading and inaccurate question is “When the “scandal”‘you refer to isn’t one”. Asked and answered.

  • Chris Matthewson

    According to Wikipedia: “Steven T. Miller, Acting Commissioner of Internal Revenue and Deputy Commissioner for Services and Enforcement resigned on May 15, 2013. Joseph H. Grant, commissioner of the Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division, retired on June 3, 2013. Lois Lerner, the Internal Revenue Service official at the center of the agency’s political targeting scandal, retired effective September 23, 2013.

    More importantly, we are in the first week of breaking news about the Governor Christie’s bridge scandal. The following from The Washington Times will show just how biased Bernie’s (and Fox News’) reporting is: “When news broke that the IRS had targeted conservative groups, the “Big Three” broadcast networks were hot on the trail. NBC, CBS and ABC ran 96 stories about the matter for the first two weeks – May 10 through 23, according to an analysis released Thursday by the Media Research Center. Thirty one more stories followed during the next week.” (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2013/jun/13/what-irs-scandal-broadcast-news-covered-it-only-on/#ixzz2q3VacJwT)

    Of course, Bernie fails to mention that he’s comparing apples to oranges when he’s comparing the time frames of the two stories: July to now for the IRS scandal (a period beginning two months after that scandal broke); the very week that the Christie scandal breaks nationally.

    Also relevant is that the two scandals are perceived differently by the country because of how we happened to view each politician at the time the scandal broke. While Obama’s honesty has taken a major hit recently after the Obamacare fiasco, at the time the IRS scandal broke most Americans did not believe he was in any way personally involved. On the other hand, Gov. Christie, who is much less well known nationally and, therefore, does not have the reserve of trust and goodwill a President generally has, is generally seen as a political bully and wise guy–just the type of politician who would sanction such a stupid act of retribution, although he may very well be innocent.

    This “perception bias” is similar to the view the public used to have about Kennedy and Johnson vs. Nixon: The abuses of Watergate were consistent with the general view many Americans had of “Tricky Dick.” The fact that his two immediate predecessors probably did as many bad things as he did, and perhaps worse, was not easily accepted (and still isn’t).

    Some day you and your readers will have to grow up and accept the fact that almost all politicians, at least at the national level, are basically narcissistic, semi-egomaniacal, self-centered extroverts. We are indeed fortunate every now and then to have a few who, despite their character flaws, become truly remarkable leaders. Unfortunately, the current acrimonious political environment does not attract these few exceptional people into the national arena.

    • Legal Eagle

      “The fact that his two immediate predecessors probably did as many bad things as he did, and perhaps worse, was not easily accepted (and still isn’t).”
      What “fact” are you referring to? JFK and LBJ did what things that are the equivalent of the Nixon Administration?

      • Chris Matthewson

        Actually assassinating and attempting to assassinate foreign leaders, consorting with Mafiosi and traitors; lying, cheating, stealing and covering up (re elections, wars, political opponents, etc.), dirty tricks, wiretapping; use of IRS, FBI and other governmental agencies to intimidate, embarrass and ruin fellow citizens. How’s that for starters?

        • Javafutter

          Wiretapping in NSA started with Bush
          IRS proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt to be the work of a self described conservative working for the IRS.

          And I would have loved to have seen the angner over the cheney Bush team lying to get us into Iraq. More than 130,000 human beings were slaughtered in that war.

          Oh wait..they had brown skin and were not Christian…so I guess it was OK.

      • Drew Page

        You sound like thee Chris Matthews. Do you still get that tingle up your leg whenever Obama speaks?

  • Sheila Warner

    It’s always amusing to see the national media comment on Chris Christie. I am a lifelong citizen of NJ. I watched most of the news conference, I believe the Governor, and it’s time to put this to bed. We New Jerseyans are the ones who will have the ultimate say-so in how this concludes, not the networks.

    • Legal Eaglr

      If you want to put it to bed then dont watch it……Fox News has put it to bed as they do anything that involves a Republican scandal…

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        What in the holy hell are you talking about? It was discussed on Fox News ALL NIGHT tonight.

        Do you EVER research any of what you say, or is everything merely a guess on your part?

        • Mikal Gastpipe

          Nothing more than HuffPo talking points!

        • Sheila Warner

          I didn’t even dignify le with an answer to that one. He also asked if I am an expert on NJ. I believe I know the state better than anyone who doesn’t live here, or who hasn’t lived here very long. I’m a lifelong citizen of NJ.

        • Ted

          Yeah, when Faux Snooze talks “all night long” about it, it involves them saying the MSM is treating Chubby unfairly and that the MSM is merely using it to distract everyone from some trumped up Obama “scandal”. And then they’ll brag up Christie claiming he’s handling it well and dissing Obama because they’re Fuxx News and have an whackjob audience to pander to.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Do you find a certain prestige in completely making something up to try and prove a point? That’s the trademark with people like you and legal eagle. You throw at some blind assertion, having absolutely no clue as to whether or not it’s true, and then when someone points out that you’re dead wrong, you run off with your tail between your legs, and never comment on it again.

            Do you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself or does the satisfaction of falling on the sword for the liberal cause make the humiliation worth it?

          • Ted

            Your arguments are sound. Mere sound. Even clever rhetoric that’s BS is still BS.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            lol. You’re punch drunk. Poor fellow.

  • phillyfanatic

    Investigations of the Obama scandals have never been given Administration, or Special Prosecutor urging. And induction. Here with Chris, one Dem Rep. called for a full investigation as did the Daily News, NYTimes and ….all the usual progressive suspects. All of the Obama horrors are worth investigating and have affected national security more than this inane bridge deal. And as for the attacks on Christie, they all make sense from Hillary’s point of view since she knows that he is not popular with conservs like myself and would love to see him eliminated from any contention. Though I will not vote for Chris in the primary, that frankly makes me angry that the lib MSM would go out of their way to get him when the Crook and Socialist naif of all time is running American into the ground on a daily impeachable level.

    • russellmuscle1

      Let me tell you something, the American don’t give a crap no matter how hard Hilary supporters or the liberal media try to make a traffic jam into WWII. The American people only care when something hits thier pocket book. We are the minority, people who actually pay attention to politics I mean. The only “folks” who care are those who have something to gain or lose from this traffic jam.

      • Ron F

        I think a lot of Americans care about abuses of government power, whether it is the IRS targeting conservatives, the President not enforcing laws as written or people in Governor Christie’s administration cause traffic problems as a method to punish non-supporters, even if they have nothing to gain or lose.

        • Javafutter

          It was a self described conservative republican who targeted Tea Party groups. They were signing up for tax exempt status in droves and he testified that he wanted ot find commonalities so he could decide on their status all at once.

    • Javafutter

      Darryl Issa’s committee is designed with one purpose in mind. To destroy the Obama Administration. And he lied and/or withheld exculpatory information about both Benghazi and the IRS phony scandals.

      • Drew Page

        “Phony IRS scandals”??? Just like the “Phony” four Americans massacred in Benghazi? Just like the “phony” murder of border patrolman Brian Terry? Just like the “phony” spying on Americans by NSA without probable cause and without a warrant signed by a judge, in direct violation of the Fourth Amendment. Just like the “phony” promise of keeping your own health insurance and doctor?

        • Ted

          So the death toll is the apparent benchmark for rt wing outrage and determining what’s a scandal? And then you hyperbolically say 4 dead albeit tragically is a massacre? Then what kind of “massacre” was the 3,000 dead on 9/11 under W or the 241 dead US Marines in Beirut under Reagan? And where the hell’s all the feigned, partisan outrage over those two “scandals”? What’s that? Your outrage is only reserved for the progressives? Ah, now I get it!

    • Ted

      Fanatic IS right!

  • russellmuscle1

    OH stop the presses!! A 91 year old woman on her way to the ER DIED!! Some kids didn’t get picked up from school on time!!! Oh the humanity! This is the dumbest crap ever, and you know that normal people with a healthy level of political obsession aren’t tripping out over a traffic jam in NJ, no matter what the motives were.

  • Ron F

    If I am correct, the IRS story broke more than 6 months ago and the majority of the reporting about it was more than 6 months ago. Wouldn’t it be more relevant to compare the amount of time spent on the IRS scandal when the news was breaking with the amount of time the news spends on the Governor Christie story now. In addition, wouldn’t you also have to look at what else was in the news at the time. Nevertheless, the comparison may still be valid.

    • Ted

      No, because that would make sense and people who struggle w/ cranail flatulence here would have their heads explode!

  • Leo Smith

    Hillary and her “team” are so afraid of Christie they made this whole thing up. It is a phony scandal made up by Lying Liberals.

    • Ted

      Ah? That’s why Christie’s playing CYA because it was ALL made up. yeah, that’s the ticket. Got it!

      What is funny is how the ideologues here climbed all over Obama when he said he didn’t know about the faux IRS “scandal” but when Christie says the same thing you’re all, “Hey, he didn’t know. He’s innocent”. Just more partisan based dbl stds. What else is new?

      • Legal Eagle

        The wing nuts don’t want to know whether Christie really appears to be the obnoxious, arrrogant bully he plays in his role as NJ governor…..

    • russellmuscle1

      Well they certainly didn’t make it up leo, the traffic jam happened. That being said, they are trying to blow a traffic jam in New Jersey up to WMD proportions. It’s very fun to watch. The general public doesn’t care…..unless they live in NJ MAYBE or they are a liberal wanted to remove Christie as a threat. It’s dumb, really.

    • Ben Ghazi

      Nothing gets past you. Good thing the Russians don’t have your brain!

    • Sheila Warner

      It really happened. Why ruin your credibility trying to prove it did not? Did you watch the news conference? Do you live in NJ? Have you been following it like the rest of us from NJ have been?

      Having said that, I take Gov Christie at his word.

      • Ted

        What if he has to “eat” his words? He looks like he already has!

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Oh, fat jokes. Neat.

          • Ted

            Nothing escapes you! What gave it away?

          • Mikal Gastpipe

            Your INSIPIDNESS!

          • Integrity

            Your innate ability to always take the low road. QED

      • Legal Eagle

        So you are now the authority of what goes on in New Jersey?
        Where do you come up with this nonsense?

    • Ben Ghazi

      You nailed it Columbo! Good thing the Russians don’t have your brain!

  • lark2

    These media people have no shame. They wear their bias on their sleeve and their “editors” say nothing. Their bias certainly appeals to their acolytes but the public at large expects better from Professional Journalists. I am as “plugged in” as anybody but, I miss reading my morning newspaper with my coffee. I have cancelled my subscriptions. I think lots of people miss having a morning newspaper to read. just don’t want to their bias crap. They are dying on the vine. The print media is bleeding cash. The broadcast Journalists are losing viewers and listeners in droves.. They blame it on “talk radio” and the digital media…. because they don’t want to face the music ….. they are in denial. The internet, twitter, and all the “digital” editions are NOT going to save them. It is not the “medium” … it’s the media and bias is bias no matter what the platform.

  • kayakbob

    The bridge to….New Jersey is a scandal because somebody at looked a poll or two that suggests Christie is (currently) the biggest threat to Hillary in 2016. That’s why it’s a big deal.

    So here is my question: I heard on TV that Christie is now a “dead man walking” for 2016. So if he survives this does he then become the “Come Back” kid?

    But regardless we will all sleep better knowing he took responsibility for…a lane closure.

  • Lc Goodfellow

    December 2007. “If I find out that somebody is doing that, they will be fired. And I have been absolutely crystal clear about this, and I have been clear about this for a very long time.
    That’s not what I believe in, that’s not who I am,” Obama

    The problem for Obama was that he always believed the most ludicrous version of Storybook Man.
    He once told a reporter, “You know, I actually believe my own [bovine excrement].”
    Now, isn’t that special?

  • Ted

    Huh? Yeah, Christie finally fired two people months after it happened. And back then all he did was to made mocking comments about it and he even refused to do an investigation about it! And now his high school buddy pleads the fifth? So should we progs be equally as outraged as the wing nuts were when that IRS supervisor took the fifth or is this somehow materially different?

    • Mark Cragin

      Stupid attempt at moral equivalence. Will you people never quit?

      • Ted

        Nice dodge and attempt to dismiss what you wish would just go away. Interesting also how Christie completely dismissed what he later said he knew nothing about? So, you’re fine w/ Wildstein taking the 5th? Once again and as usual it weren’t for double standards your side wouldn’t have any standards at all.

        • Mark Cragin

          Doesn’t it bother you that everyone on this forum thinks you’re a raving lunatic?

          • Ted

            I hope so! Clearly, on this site it’s a badge of honor and litmus test for sanity. Happy to help!

          • Mark Cragin

            I worry about your mental hygiene, Ted, truly.

          • Ted

            And I worry about that losing battle of yours with cranial flatulence. Might wanna open a window.

        • Mark Cragin

          I just wish YOU would go away …

          • Ted

            If I believed as you do, I would too.

    • lark2

      No one excuses Christie. but, the media has not actually covered ANY Obama scandal … if they covered them at all … it has been a brief mention and a one day story……. IRS, Gun Running, lying to congress about NSA spying on Americans, the OUTRIGHT LIES in support of Obamacare, the funding of the absurd ideas of cronies, the violations of the U.S. Constitution Obama swore to “protect and defend”, Benghazi, Solyndra, etc., etc. No one excuses Christie … we just want to hear about all the rest as well. That would be journalistic integrity.

      • Ted

        No media coverage on those faux scandals you wishful thinking created? Then how did you hear about them? Were you sitting in on Issa’s witch hunt of a committee? Besides, the next Repub he calls to testify will be his first!

        • lark2

          Ted, you are right! My best to you. There is nothing further to be said.

    • Leo Smith

      You Progressives made up this phony scandal about the bridge… Stop spreading your LIES.

      • Ted

        Shucks! Ya got me. I made it up.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          lol. He was mocking the default response liberals always use when it comes to an Obama scandals.

      • Kit Carson

        This is of course to take away from any attention from their boy fraud Barry and all his scandals.

    • Lc Goodfellow

      My, my,my ! We have a “Breaking News Flash” it took how long for the ” Bridge ” story to hit the airways ? And it ain’t going away any time soon. When will they get to the bottom of these lesser ones ?

      ….. anyone noticed the nonstop scandals? Any one of these scandals would force a Republican President like Richard Nixon out of office.
      ” Obama owns all of them. ”

      Benghazi-
      Fast and Furious-
      The NSA scandal-
      The AP scandal-
      The IRS scandal-
      The Census Bureau scandal-

      How could one leader be involved in this many lies, frauds, scandals, and cover-ups? There’s enough here for a century of Presidents!

      • Ted

        Too bad that everytime Obama scratches his behind you can count on some weak minded, low information, Kool Aid drinkin’, rt wing yahoo to call it a “scandal”.

        Oooooo, “‘Obama breaks wind!” Scandal! His intell community gets Benghazi right about a lack of al-Qaeda there but the wing nuts can’t accept the truth so it’s a “scandal”! The IRS does their job when inundated w/ bogus applications from tax exempt “charities” so they don’t have to pay taxes and the Joke Bros oops I mean the Koch head Bros et al can donate hundreds of millions anonymously. There are twice as many disingenuous apps from bogus rt wing “charities” so the audit takes guess what? TWICE as long! Or as the rt wing nuts call it, a “scandal”! Gee, I’m beginning to see a pattern here. I love watching ideologues try and create their own BS reality. Shouldn’t the facts shape the narrative rather than the other way around? Yeah, like that’s ever going to happen especially on this site but that’s half the fun!

      • Kit Carson

        Why? because out traitorous ultra-leftist media allows it aand sweeps everything under the rug.

  • Smith

    No threat to Democracy, but it’s a convenient way to pivot from the Dictator.

  • Paul Vasek

    The MSM has no shame and it is obvious they fear Christie in 2016.

    • Ted

      Fat chance! Christie’s just waiting to throw his weight around because a waist is a terrible thing to mind. He’s probably bellying up to the bar right now soon to make fatuous comments.

      • Ben Ghazi

        With a name like Chris Christie (What’s his middle name Jesus?) no wonder he thinks he is a deity. He needs to go on a deity that’s for sure. He hasn’t gotten to the angry stage yet? He will have to get past the hungry stage first.

        • Ted

          Mr. Ghazi, I found your post easy to stomach in bite size pieces and something I could really sink my teeth into. Although some of your statements were a bit hard to swallow. For the most part however I ate up your post because you weren’t simply regurgitating the party line. I confess that I did enjoy watching some of rabid ideologues here forced to eat their lunch so I sent them straight to bed without their supper because their pts of view were from hunger. Now they’re starving for attention. It’s clear they got their just desserts.

          • Ben Ghazi

            He was not involved. He was consuming a gallon of Haagen Dazs and 250 White Castle cheeseburgers at the time. That is his story and he is sticking to it!

          • Ted

            Did I say I’m from Hungary? Well, I’m Welsh and Hungarian which makes me Wel-Hung.

    • Ted

      Will you be throwing your weight behind Christie now? Or in front of him? I’d suggest behind because I’m not sure how fast he can stop?

    • Ted

      Yeah, you said the left also “feared” Palin. We feared that she might not accept the VP gig. Why is your go to position always fear based? And then you comically project your MO on the other side because surely we all must think alike and if bogeymen freak you out we all must be equally freaked out. Pffffft!

  • RedinDenver

    Strange (NOT!) that the liberal mainstream media would give so little attention to the myriad of failures, misdeeds and political targeting in the Obama administration, yet focus so intently on this ONE incident in Christie’s administration.

    Could it be because the polls show that he might be a threat to their coronation of Hillary???

    • Ted

      Ah, one more in along line of rt wing conspiracists here. Keep trying to fan your paranoia which is the keystone of extremist rt wing, vilify Obama politics.

      • RedinDenver

        One does not have to be a “rt wing conspiracist” to see the difference in coverage.

        If you were willing take off your left wing lunatic blinders, you would be able to see the truth as well, although I doubt very much that any partisan hack such as you could admit it.

    • Lc Goodfellow

      You want to look for them, the new Bumper Stickers on the Obama clunkers ” Monica Lewinsky’s X-Boyfriend’s Wife for President 2016 “

  • Gloria

    A tempest in a teapot. This was a petty schoolgirl prank by a juvenile and apparently not very bright employee. If anyone’s career is ruined, it is hers and those who cooperated in this foolishness. Chris Christie isn’t one of them. But of course the media adores any negative story they can run with when it involves a member of the Republican party! No surprises here.

  • gold7406

    if christie would have said, “that was two months ago, it was just a traffic jam, what difference does it make now?” they would have dropped on the spot. Instead we had 4 dead, under very questionable circumstances and the media nods in agreement and then sashays away.
    the media has lost all credibility. I imagine them like puppy dogs at the white gate wanting to play fetch.

  • allen goldberg

    With the biased slime in the news media committing fraud every day..why would you expect anything else but this nasty, lop-sided expose. Was Christie and his administration wrong? 150% wrong!!! Is the media delighting in providing wall to wall coverage? Absolutely.

    • Ted

      If they’re half as happy as you are when you’re trying to create a faux “scandal” with Obama they’re pretty happy.

    • Legal Eagle

      Christie will blame his lap band surgery for this incident…Let’s pray this doesn’t throw him off his diet…

  • Buzzeroo

    Well Sam, The only thing that would possibly be surprising would be if these bozos did such things before and that he was aware that they had done them. Otherwise, he had no way of predicting that they would or even could be so damned stupid. Obama , on the other hand, consorts with all manner of subversives and places them in very high responsible positions…..Can you tell me if Christie’s deputy whatever the hell she WAS and his campaign guy ever acted in a ridiculously harmful manner that was public knowledge such that Christie was veritably obligated to be aware of thereby causing him to prudently eschew hiring them when he was elected governor………………Once again he’s unlike Obama who, among other miscreants is in bed with an unrepentant killer from The weather Underground who dodged a lengthy jail term on a technicality while his wife – accomplice rotted in durance-vile for many a moon for the very same crime.

    • Legal Eagle

      Don’t forget Obama also consorts with those colored folk…..

  • bella duparee

    Yes, Obama’s indifference to the military is scary/plain stupid on his part.
    @disqus_dh7UPOYyud:disqus Sky Citizen…Spot on with your comments/facts..Hat off to Lemonfemale’s comments. I would hate to think that women would vote for Hillary because of her gender. Not my vote out! I might move to Russia if she is elected :) seems Alec Baldwin made that threat (forget why) and he is still in the USA making racial slurs.

  • Buzzeroo

    The libs or progs or whatever they call themselves these days can bray night and day about Christie but there is absolutely nothing that they can do to hurt him or mar his chances for a damn good shot at the presidency PROVIDING THAT HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH REGARDING HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE BRIDGE TIE_UP STUPIDITY….and you can be certain that no rock will be left unturned investigating that claim. If he is lying, he is not even toast—he’s just the crumbs. On the other hand, if it turns out that his aids who happen to also be his closest friends, did this….and he summarily fired them immediately upon finding out what they did, he will be a golden boy not only for doing so but by way of contrast to the present President who can’t tell the truth if he can make up a lie fast enough—which so far has not defeated his efforts regarding scandal upon scandal with no one ever held to account for the crimes that they committed.
    Once again, if he is totally uninvolved in the perpetration of the bridge blockage, when all is said and done Christie will come out looking and acting as a president should—and will give the nation the confidence that he would bring the honesty and integrity back to the White house that has gone missing the very first day that Obama took office.

    • Mark Cragin

      Wish I could vote you double or triple UP. Also wish I could write as succinctly … ;-)

    • Seattle Sam

      It doesn’t concern you that Christie’s judgment allowed him to hire staff that was this irresponsible?

  • Patrick H

    For those who are trying to draw a comparison between Bush and Obama’s investigations into the IRS, you might want to take a look at this:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/06/jim-mcdermott/irs-targeted-liberal-groups-bush-years-jim-mcdermo/

  • savage24

    Our country was founded by people of great wisdom and it is run today by idiots, and that includes the media that parrots the ruling regime. The only finger pointing that should take place is towards us, “We the People” have not done our duty, to preserve the Constitution. Our Founders told us not to rely on the politicians, and they put a provision in the 1st Amendment to protect the media to do that job. The media sold out to socialism and big government, so we should have no trust in them either. As long as government gives the masses bread and circuses they will never see what is really going on.

    • allen goldberg

      Love this post!!!!!

  • CentralScruntinizer

    Yea! It’s Bernie’s make-up column to the nutters. Hopefully this gets him back in good standing after that last one defending Dick Metcalf.

    The only problem: the complete lack of any mention that the IRS scandal completely dissolved 5 months ago on the revelation that the IRS had been equally scrutinizing political sounding applications for non-profit status from both the right and the left, flagging applications from groups with both names that derived from Occupy as well as Tea Party & patriot. Somehow mysteriously The House Oversight Committee request for information that drove the scandal initially was only for reviews of Tea Party names, not reviews for all political names. Also, the rejection rate for left wing political applications was slightly higher than the rejection rate for right wing….

    But please proceed Bernie.

  • Ted

    So conservative ideologue and resident, extremist, pinhead Brent Bozell and his partisan Media Research Center provided background on this? So, it appears that Bernie is trying to do an about face to appease all the rt wing nuts he so thoroughly pissed off by his last anti-gun nut column. The rt wing nuts like to bring up the 4 who died in Benghazi as some kind of benchmark so ok how many people died during the faux and manufactured IRS “scandal” vs how many died during 9/11 or the petty, vindictive closing of the GW bridge? Answer? One and where’s outrage over that death? And what’s up w/ Wildstein taking the 5th? Besides, Christie wouldn’t lose his chance in 2016 because a bridge got closed, he’d lose it if he covered it up.

    • lemonfemale

      Can’t comment on the faux IRS scandal as I have not heard of such a thing but the daughter of the lady waiting for the ambulance says the wait was not a factor in the lady dying. If you say that’s sheer chance and it could have been for someone I would agree. Bridget who got fired ought to be charged as well.
      The difference between Christie and the President on this is that Christie has actually held someone accountable. Not shuffled them around or terminated them (allowing a transition period) with a month to go in their job.
      PS The NSA called. Your garage door is open, but don’t worry. They’ll close it when they leave.

      • Rarin Togo

        So, it is your intent to justify abuse of power by pointing to another abuse of power? Mr. Christie gave a very conflicting accounts of events, imho.

        • lemonfemale

          I don’t have a crystallized opinion of Christie’s involvement- if any. If it turns out he’s connected- he’s toast. The reason I am mentioning Benghazi/Fast and Furious/IRS/ yadda yadda yadda is not to justify inaction but to say more action is required. Holder, Sebelius, and half of Obama’s people ought to be fired and charged.

          • allen goldberg

            You mean LYING, fraud and criminal negligence is a good reason???

          • Mark Cragin

            Yow, what a concept!

          • lemonfemale

            Not sure what you mean, not saying my uncertainty is your fault. Holder ought to be extradited to Mexico to stand trial for accessory to murder (Fast and Furious). The IRS should be charged. Someone at State over deliberately not providing security requested by Stevens. And so forth. Rights we let people get away with abusing are rights we have lost.

          • Ted

            So should W also be charged for not providing security on 9/11 where 3,000 died on US soil or do you only want Dems charged?

          • lemonfemale

            The short answer is that if the mayor of NYC had asked for greater security and been turned down then yes. charges should have been filed. But treating this question as legitimate rather than as a rejoinder, I would say you had two different things going on. Stevens asked for more security after- among other things- the British pulled out and there had been statements online the US facility would be targeted. The equivalent would be on the order of NY asking the President to intercept plane number two after plane number one had hit the Tower and the President refusing. Considering that they refused to scramble troops that could have gotten there in time, my example is exactly equivalent.

          • Ted

            Stevens chose to be there and also turned down more security immediately prior to the attack saying he was afraid it would negatively effect his ability to interact w/ the locals. And W missed two 9/11 warnings via memo from Richard Clarke of the CIA. The last one was on Aug 6 while W was on the single longest vacation any 1st yr President ever took. It warned him that “bin laden determined to strike inside US”. W did nothing about it. No extra mtgs ala Clinton who had one weekly to discuss OBL. No Wonder we got hit w/ our pants down.

          • lemonfemale

            Well, thank you for that. Stevens, I mean. Definitely worth knowing. It is unknown why he declined acc’d’g to The Hill and may be he was relaying State Dept. thinking same as Hillary signing a memo may not be her physically signing one, but may have been added because it’s State and she was Sec. Again I believe we had much more definite warnings than what OBL said. You could debate that I guess.

          • Ted

            Certainly the 8/6 obl memo did not say where the attack wud be and I think Benghazi was poorly handled but I don’t see how that makes it a de facto “scandal” because 4 (or any particular number) died there. My pt was if the benchmark for scandal is the death toll then what does that make 9/11 or Beirut in 1983 w/ Reagan in office where 241 Marines died under Repub Presidents? And no, I don’t believe they were scandals either and certainly not because the oppositions party was in office. It’s a dangerous world out there and no Prez can protect all of us everywhere although the cons seen to want to hold Obama to that unrealistic standard.

          • lemonfemale

            I want to see it looked into, not swept under the rug as “What difference at this point does it make?” The deaths alone do not make it a scandal (nobody died in Watergate) but they do add exclamation points to whatever it is. I’m not married to any result in particular but I want it looked into. When they try to pass it off as a video that they themselves did not believe was responsible and Carney says that deleting reference to terrorist involvement amounted to merely “choosing one word over another”, I don’t trust them. There is this big lump in the rug from everything that has been swept under it.

          • Ted

            What is it that you don’t know about Benghazi? Read David Kirkpatrick’s NY Times article which I realize will be unread and also dismissed by the Obama critics. To them when he breaks wind it’s a “scandal”. And Hillary’s comment meant re-litigating Benghazi solely for political opportunism wouldn’t bring bk the dead. She’s right.

          • Sheila Warner

            Wow, still obsessing over the Kirkpatrick article? I hope no one tries to put words in your mouth. BTW I did read it. I also listened to members of Congress who received intelligence briefings, and read the assessment of the intelligence community. Kirkpatrick is entitled to his opinion, but I believe his conclusions were incorrect. Especially about the video. Even the President doesn’t believe that anymore. When is the last time you heard him speak of the video? Hillary dropped it, as well, long before she left her post. Kirkpatrick got it wrong, plain and simple.

          • Ted

            Still can’t/won’t name that fictitious intell community I see? You’re so busted! For people like you denial really is a river in Africa. And exactly why would Obama bring up Benghazi anymore than W would bring up 9/11?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Still waiting for your response to the “act of terror” links I provided for you, Ted.

          • Sheila Warner

            Me, too. tick tock tick tock….

          • Sheila Warner

            For starters, the Pentagon’s issued report. Read that first. But you accused me of putting words in your mouth, remember? I quoted you directly. This is all you can come up with? Do some research on the actual intelligence & you can read it for yourself.

          • Ted

            Are you that dense? So, name the bleeping intell organization that you baselessly claim I wouldn’t believe. That or admit you’re full of sh*t?

          • Sheila Warner
          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Are you talking about the article that was thoroughly debunked on many levels already, not just by numerous official’s testimony including Gregory Hicks, but most recently by the U.S. government’s implication of Al Quaeda’s Abu Sufian bin Qumu, former Gitmo detainee?

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/former-guantanamo-detainee-implicated-in-benghazi-attack/2014/01/07/c73fdf78-77d5-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html

            You must be talking of another Kirkpatrick article that no one but you had read.

            Oh, and political opportunism is precisely what gave us Hillary’s story about a YouTube video being responsible for the attacks.

          • Ted

            Interesting how you failed to mention that the latest report on Benghazi like all other previous ones said there was NO coverup. What a blow that must be to your childish anger over Obama being twice elected despite all your side’s lying and whining and demagoguing him proving of course that there is a God!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            No coverup? You didn’t actually read the report, did you? You just listened to Chris Matthews’ ‘Cliffs Notes’.

            What it said was that the Obama administration and State Department knew almost immediately that terrorists were behind the Benghazi attack. Yet, for the two weeks following the attack, Obama, Clinton, Biden, Rice, Carney, and the rest repeatedly told the American public, saying that it was spawned from a spontaneous mob that was upset over a YouTube video.

            How is that NOT a cover-up?

          • Ted

            Sooner or later you’re bound to be right but that continues to elude you, sadly? Even a broken clock’s right twice a day. How did you miss the part about no coverup? Did the person who reads things to you not understand it? Might want to change translators! And did Chris Mathews agree with the part stating there was no coverup as well? Good for him. Whst did Alex Jones tell you?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Please cite the “no cover up” part of the report, Ted, and please tell me what was incorrect about what I wrote above.

          • Ted

            Did you miss the no cover up part in all the reports or merely the most recent one? Sheila, would you kind enough to pls post a link to that report for me? Thx!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Did you miss my reply where I asked you cite the “no coverup” portion of the report?

          • Sheila Warner
          • lemonfemale

            And the WaPo as well, apparently. To use the same thought, if it is not necessarily wrong when Obama does it, it is not necessarily right when a Republican doesn’t like it. Hillary, well you could say the same when you try to prosecute someone for murder. The victim is still dead. I want it looked into. Thank you for the thing on Stevens, again.

          • Ted

            Oh, what’s your “big” lump comprised of? Statements by W like “Mission Accomplished” or they were “linked w/ al-Qaeda and have WND’s”! Now, that would be a big lump!

        • allen goldberg

          he did, and he was absolutely 150% wrong, and held responsible.

      • allen goldberg

        remember Ted and all the libtards never ever think anyone can ever do anything wrong who is a liberal. But anyone who disagrees with them, and does something wrong…electrocution and burning at the stake are the answer.

        • Ted

          Hyperbolic rhetoric much drama queen?

          • Mark Cragin

            And this is not hyperbole: “… conservative ideologue and resident, extremist, pinhead Brent Bozell …” You liberals are a constant source of cheap entertainment.

          • allen goldberg

            Guess Ted, we are not going to agree on much, With the media frauds, The Liar in chief and fraud in the white House, his effort to destroy this country by ignoring the Constitution regularly, the low information voters, the scandals, which of course are fantasies, you like the fantasy-land your 4 cell brain has constructed as reality. I prefer the real world, where my country, its Constitution and reality comes first. But hey, rave on sir. I am sure your next response will yet again show why, liberals like you are entertainment but not to be taken seriously.

          • Ted

            You only have one significant problem to overcome and that is that no amount of repeating ad populem lies makes them suddenly become the truth.

          • allen goldberg

            Your not agreeing does not make them lies. Obama, Rice, Clinton and Holder to name just a few all have LIED and committed varying degrees of criminal fraud, murder and criminal negligence. For example, Obama LIED 38 times about Obamacare……are these lies or untruths? .. If a conservative had done any one of these things, the scum in the media and liberals would be demanding hangings….but they are all just fantasy scandals. What a load of excrement you play in.
            YOU cannot accept the facts that your great and powerful FRAUD is just that. Go place your head where the sun does not shine and frack yourself. I know, its’ all Bush’s fault anyway.

    • Jeff Webb

      Not sure what exactly you’re ranting about. Are you saying Bernie writes his columns only to appease people, or is that only when he writes those which conservatives wouldn’t disagree with? Not that it matters, but what would it take for you to give him the benefit of the doubt?

      Perhaps you’re just reminding others that you don’t think anything scandalous has happened since BO took office. Maybe you don’t think you made it clear that we shouldn’t call Benghazi a scandal because it wasn’t the magnitude of 9/11/01.
      Your position on the death that happened during Bridgegate is unclear. When a 90-something woman may have died because EMT’s didn’t arrive sooner, are you telling us our outrage has to be the same, less, or more than we felt about 4 far-younger men brutally murdered by terrorists, with no attempt to intervene by the administration?

      And, out of curiosity, do you think Governor Christie would deserve to lose if he were guilty of this sort of cover-up?

      • Ben Ghazi

        You have Issa and his Committee To Impeach The President, not to mention Fox, Drudge, Breitbart, desperately digging for any dirt and coming up empty handed. Do let us know if they come up with anything and then we will talk.

    • allen goldberg

      Ted: You never cease to amaze me with your complete lack of comprehension and libtard views. rave on rave on. Maybe you can get a nice wooden box to stand on and shriek your crazed rants at crowds in some public place. I am sure that will turn into a reality T.V. show.

      • Ted

        “Amazing” you would not be high on a list of things to accomplish.

  • Drew Page

    If I remember correctly, I believe that you predicted that attacks on the leading Republican candidate(s) by the Democrat attack machine, including the MSM, would occur before long. Chris Christie isn’t my first choice for a Republican presidential candidate, but I wouldn’t refuse to vote for him if he wins that nomination. I’m relatively cynical when it comes to believing anything politicians say, but Christie gave a pretty convincing explanation in his press conference. He apologized to the people of New Jersy, the State Legislature and personally to the Mayor of Fort Lee. He accepted responsibility for what his staff people did and fired a senior staff person and forced another to step down from his position with the Association of State Governors. He stayed on the podium for two hours and answered all the questions asked of him. Now maybe he was lying through his teeth, but I believed him.
    The editorial staffs of the New Jersey Star Ledger and the New York Times and Daily News absolutely know that Christie was behind the lane closures on the GW bridge and furthermore know it was an act of political retribution. They are judge, jury and executioner. No need for investigations, or proof of anything, the allegations have been made and these “newspapers” have found Christie not only guilty, but also dead politically. Case closed. Who do the Republicans want to send us next?

  • common2cents

    Our wonderful country is being taken apart by the politicians and the media. How has it happened? We are supposed to treasure our news service and admire our government. I’m switching off everything except BBC and Al jazeera, at least we know where they are coming from. All the others are doing is trying to destroy each other. In Gov. Christie’s word………STUPID.

    • Mark Cragin

      BBC & Al Jazeera? Now there’s a couple really objective sources. I’d stick with Bernie, if I were you.

  • Josh

    Sounds about right to me. After all, the cat’s been out of the bag so long one has to wonder if there was ever a bag in the first place. These partisans representing the bulk of mainstream media don’t attempt to hide. Now, they might shrug off criticisms of being biased when confronted or accused, but they certainly don’t hide. So it makes perfect sense.

    Bush drones = bad, warmongering buffoon, worst president ever.

    Obama drones = what drones? Huh? There’s a kid who died from a gun, coulda been an assault rifle. We see no drones.

    Republican campaign donations = the fall of the country, corruption personified, capitalism is evil.

    Democratic campaign donations = wait…unions are the middle class, plus we donate, so iz good.

    Republican scandal = how dare they!

    Obama scandal = there’s probably a hypocritical family values Republican out there. Oh, even better, here’s el blimpo Chris Soprano rigging traffic lights . We be saved!

    This is the best thing that’s fallen into the laps of these gutless apologists since 2011. And I’m sure Obama couldn’t be happier. He doesn’t have to hide in his hole with Punxsutawney Phil. He can come out weeks earlier.

    • Ted

      Nice example of a rt wing nut pity party. What else is new?

      • Josh

        Excellent job of habitually plastering “rt wing nut” on the board. Need some attention?

        Here. I see you.

        ((((((hugs)))))))

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Every troll has their signature, I suppose. lol.

          • Integrity

            Mine is QED. LOL QED

  • jazzdrums

    how about the GW bridge becoming a promise zone but from the looks of all the kids standing behind barry yesterday it seemed like only 1 white boy. what is the promise anyway. just another way to campaign. fyi…grocery checkout Enquirer allege michelle wants out of loveless marriage..anyway she will rack up lots of trips on taxpayer expense over next 3 years

  • SkyCitizen

    For comments subsequent to this, please feel free to cut and paste the following:

    Fast and Furious, Benghazi, GSA, IRS Scandal, “You can keep your Doctor”, “You can keep your Health Plan”, Hillary Clinton “What difference does it make?”, Attorney General Holder lying to Congress with impunity, etc.

    • Mark Cragin

      Great! That will be helpful.

    • Ted

      Wouldn’t it be great if merely calling something a scandal actually made it one like Benghazi, the IRS and F and F? So whatever you do, do not read the NY Times article about Benghazi unless you develop an interest in the truth. And if F and F is a scandal because a border patrol agent died what kind of scandal does that make 9/11 where 3,000 died?

  • Leo Smith

    The Liberals are foaming at the mouth to have a Republican in the spot light for once. Even if the Media is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Thats what they do.

  • Jarob54

    While this may be front page news at the moment, it wont be front page news next week. That’s just the nature of the beast. And yes, you can bet the mainstream media will milk this for all they can, but they can’t stop the passeage of time. And as time passes so will this. That is if everything Christie said yesterday is true. And at the moment you have to believe what he said is true. A closed bridge lane does not, and will not derail a political career. Never underestimate the fat man, this is not his first rodeo with controversy and it will not be his last either.

    • begbie

      I really liked the press conference….the way he handled the yelling reporters was awesome. “Hey, that’s not how we do things guys!”

      He certainly knows how to take questions at a press conference without the teleprompter. Obama is painful to, uh—-ya know—-uh—watch.

      • Ted Crawford

        Precisly what we need in the White House, another Narcissistic, disingenuous, Liberal Orator!
        Not to worry Hillary has the Gender advantage! If Conservatives intend to win the White House in 2016, we will need to nominate a Candidate that can overcome that advantage!
        Christie, all his pandering notwithstanding, isn’t it!
        In any case, especially in view of the tremendous importance of the 2014 Mid-Term Election, it’s far, far too early, to be overly concerned with 2016!

        • begbie

          Oh don’t get me wrong….a Christie fan I AM NOT. I agree with you, but Hillary would be hard to beat. Her biggest asset is her gender, sorry to say. That’s all she needs to be elected in our modern America.

          • Drew Page

            Hopefully you are wrong.

          • Rarin Togo

            Now you sound like the Black community. I remember teachers telling us to go home & tell us to vote for Kennedy b/c he was catholic. I was about 8 yrs. old and thought WTH?

          • Rarin Togo

            Most women are intelligent. I suppose some dumb women would vote for her, knowing that she did not do her job as SOS

          • Mark Cragin

            God, I would hope so.

  • Paul Rush

    Even though Gov. Christie did the right thing and admitted what happened and the actions he took you can rest assure that the lame stream press and democrats will be playing it to the hilt. The focus will be off Obama and Obamacare and his dissmal failures as POTUS . Queen Hiliary heir apparent to the democratic throne must be dancing a jig right now. Hopefully my fellow Americans will see the hypocrisy how Obamas’ failures are treated by the press versus the republicans

  • Reese

    Wrong, as usual, Bernie. Just a little traffic jam??? How about the kids that were not able to get to school for hours on the first for days of school? Being that Fox News is so “fair and balanced” why did you not mention how the first responders were delayed in getting to sick people, including a 91 year old woman that later died?

    Regarding the IRS “scandal”, this is a cooked up Right Wind non-story. Do you pay attention Mr. Goldberg? The reason that the Tea Party groups had red flags raised is because they were applying for tax-exempt status. In order to do this, your organization must be primarily for non-profit type (sorry i don’t have better phrasing for the exact definition but this is Fox News so facts don’t really matter, right) business activities. The majority of these Tea Party groups, and this goes for the Liberal groups that applied as well, do not meet the aforementioned criteria to receive the tax exempt status because we all know that these are political organizations that are trying to avoid paying taxes. If you try to take a tax deduction, for your mortgage or rent, and say that you have an office at home, the IRS flags this account for review because they look for a separate room to be considered office space. Does this mean that the government is targeting business owners without actual physical office space? By the way, none of those Tea Party groups were denied tax exempt status (some Liberal groups were) even though they, along with the Liberal groups, are gaming the tax system. Obviously this comes second nature to Republicans. Another major difference is that the order to shut down the bridge came directly from someone in Governor Christie’s office. Had the order to flag the Tea Party groups come directly from someone in the President’s office, that would be a major scandal. Additionally, the economy suffered millions in losses because the “little” traffic jam. But you are the party of business…

    Benghazi was a tragedy not a scandal. Mr. Fair and Balanced why did you not include in this “article” that President Obama and Vice President Biden specifically requested additional funding to protect our embassies abroad but Mr. Ryan and friends would not approve this? This is what all of these wonderful tax cuts get you. No one likes to pay taxes but there are vital services that need to be paid for. How is the President supposed to provide all of the requested security when Republicans refuse to approve paying for this?

    Just a little food for thought…

    • nickshaw

      My, that Kool Aid be mighty tasty, ain’t it?
      You have said nothing that is worth my time to rebut.

    • begbie

      Debbie? Is that you?

    • Jarob54

      You are entitled to your opinion. But you are wrong with regards to Benghazi. This is a scandal, of monumenatal proportion. Repeated requests for additional security was not granted. Intelligence reports from this governmemt and forigen governments indicated an attack was eminate. Other nations vacated Benghazi well before this attack occured, because they had their posts attacked prior to September 11 2012. That in it self is a scandal. Then we have the concocted strory that the attack was an impromptu gathering, a reaction to a video. The administration sent officals out to appear on numerous Sunday morning political shows to propagate the video cover story. But that is not just a scandal ,this is criminal. You can be as delusional as you want, but mainstream America refuses to subscribe to your musings.

      • begbie

        Oh yeah, good point there. Reese, please justify the whole “video” story for us. I’m sure there’s a good reason they ran with that (check your talking points-3-2-1–now).

      • Drew Page

        The murder of the four Americans, including our Ambassador, was indeed a tragedy. The scandal is that adequate security was not provided by the State Department, to this consulate, despite the repeated requests from the Ambassador for more security and worse, no attempt was made to save or rescue those people.

        • Jarob54

          There was a concerted effort to cover up the magnitude of ineptness that emanates from the adminstration.

    • Ted Crawford

      All these rules apply, UNLESS you happen to be Media Matters, Organize for Action, Planned Parenthood or The Barack H. Obama Foundation!

    • Drew Page

      I am going to follow Mr. Goldberg’s suggestion to be civil in political discussion with whom I seriously disagree. Mr. Reese, I respectfully would say that you are either off topic or are engaging in a stream of consciousness. Your criticism of Mr. Goldberg , quickly segues into an attack on Fox News, the Tea Party, Chris Christie’s office, Paul Ryan and finally, the Republican party.
      I could attempt to refute the allegations contained in your post but I’m not going to convince you of anything, any more than you are going to convince me. So let’s just agree to disagree.

      • Reese

        Drew,

        I guess we will agree to disagree. My rant against Fox was in response to Mr. Goldberg’s attacks on the other 3 networks and that all of the media, outside of Fox, is biased. I don’t believe that I actually attacked the Tea Party in anything that I said but I took shots at Paul Ryan because he attacks the president but refused to provide funds.

        Anyway, have a nice weekend.

        • Mark Cragin

          You mean the mainstream networks are not biased? Wow, who knew?

    • Seattle Sam

      Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.): “Mrs Lamb [Deputy Assistant Director for International Programs Charlene Lamb], you made this decision personally [to reject the request for more security], was there any budget consideration, or lack of budget, that allowed you not to increase the people in the security force there”

      Response: “No Sir.”

      Just a little food for thought.

    • Mark Cragin

      You are the epitome of a partisan hack. IRS harassment of taxpayers is a cooked-up non-story? They should come and investigate you and give you the O’bummer rectal exam. Then you can tell us if it was cooked up. I don’t know how any American citizen can dismiss the Benghazi tragedy / scandal as cavalierly as you have. The tragedy may be that four great Americans died, but it IS a scandal that neither Hillary nor the Bamster (who went to bed early) did anything to summon any of the available forces to come to their aid.

      There is still no investigation of the whole affair. The House committee has been trying to have a special prosecutor convened to investigate, because the administration has been stonewalling them for over a year now. The stonewalling will end when the special prosecutor can grant immunity and compel testimony. Even the Democrat slimeballs will talk rather than go to jail.

  • disqus_AV1LCnOJEL

    I watched CNN yesterday talk about this during my entire lunch break on 1/9/14. Non-stop. The entire 45 mins I was in the restaurant. Fox News, on another TV, covered at least two different stories in the same span.

    • SkyCitizen

      Imagine if there was no Fox News, there would be no political news, just propaganda.

  • Rarin Togo

    They were both wrong. They have both abused their power of office. “That is obvious to everyone. You cannot target your political opponents without hurting a lot of innocent people. (91 year old woman)
    Nixon resigned because he knew he was wrong in TRYING to use an official government entity (IRS), to attack his opponents. BO actually USED the IRS and many government entities (State Dept.,DOJ, DOD, WH closure, etc.) but the worst abuse of power is his indifference to our military. He is the CIC, but he does not have their back (s)

    • Drew Page

      Why are you so quick to believe that Christie has abused the power of his office? You don’t know that Christie targeted a political opponent by calling for, or supporting, the closure of traffic lanes over the GW bridge. If someone, who was in no position to know the truth, were to accuse you of a crime or vindictive act, of which you were innocent, how would you feel being convicted in the newspapers, on TV and on every website?
      Where do you get off saying, “They were both wrong. They both abused the power of their office.”? You are jumping to conclusions without knowing any of the facts. There will be an FBI and State investigations. If wrong doing is found, there will be grand jury indictments and a trial. Why not wait until the legal system has run its course before declaring someone guilty?

  • sean1

    What’s sad isn’t the left being the left – and by the left I include the media – what’s sad is most voters will buy it.

  • Bryan

    Everywhere I go in America today, all I seem to hear from folks is “What can we do? We’ve now reached the point where we’re outvoted by the parasites. None of them care what atrocities Democrats commit, as long as the checks keep coming in the mail”. And its tempting to believe that.

    All I keep clinging to is a factoid from college history class to the effect that less than 10% of American colonists cared one whit about fighting the American Revolution, but somehow we still pulled it off.

    Is there a hopeful message in that? Or not?

    • begbie

      It does provide some small measure of comfort and hope. Thanks

  • Chuck

    Why is the press covering this more intensely? Because Gov. Christie has chosen to apologize and immediately fire the people responsible.

    Did President Obama have a lengthy “mea culpa” press confernece?

    No.

    Did he fire people immediately?

    No.

    Did he meet with the leaders of Tea Party organizations to apologize for what the IRS was doing?

    No.

    Considering that I live in the Chicago area, where the M.O. of politicians caught in scandals is to blast the media for taking time to rake the muck, rather than reporting on the need for larger government, I found Gov. Christie’s press conference refreshing. It is reassuring that people, whether in the public or private sector, will own up to their mistakes or the mistakes of subordinates

    • Brian_Bayless

      Christie is also a much better politician than Obama, who is a lightweight

      • ph16

        Oh please, President Obama is an excellent politician with a charming smile, smooth talking, and all that jazz.

        • Mark Cragin

          Do I detect sarcasm?

      • Jeff Webb

        One of the few things Obama is absolutely best at is being a politician. On his ability to lead or govern, he’s lighter than a speck of dust on a feather.

      • Lc Goodfellow

        ” Here’s a guy that came out of nowhere, an African-American senator who had accomplished nothing, had no experience, somehow hypnotized millions of people into voting for him and then gets into the White House and it’s the first time we’ve ever seen anything like this:
        ” an amateur in the White House.”

  • Joh

    The fact that traffic got snarled in NJ pales in comaparison to millions of Americans being targeted by the IRS. After the last election, I am discouraged by the idiocy of the people who vote.

  • Roadmaster

    Simple – the Down Stream Media thinks we’re dumb enough to believe there actually is a pony underneath all the horse manure they shovel out.

    No poop/no pony – see how that works?

  • k962

    The left is wetting their pants over this. But let someone mention the Benghazi Shrew, who ignored her ambassador’s repeated requests for more security and then said “what difference does it make” They don’t have any interest! and let ask WHO got fired at the State Dept for this incompetence? Not ONE!

  • Seattle Sam

    After watching Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS, Obamacare and GW Bridge, do you REALLY want to keep giving government more power?

    • Rarin Togo

      I agree. Everyone wants to say which abuse of power is worse than the next. Why is abuse of power acceptable?

  • Javafutter

    You’re right. There should have been more intense coverage of the IRS scandal. Specifically how Darrell Issa spent so much money and time lying to the American people and creating the false impression that the Obama Administration targeted Tea Party groups.

    It’s been well documented that a self described conservative Republican within the Cincinnati IRS office admitted that he targeted those Tea Party groups because there was a huge influx of applications for tax exempt status by those groups at one time.

    Issa knew this from the very beginning and withheld what he knew to try and convince the entire nation that President Obama was targeting his political opponents.

    Another story that should have been covered was how these Tea Party groups got their tax exempt status, despite this added scrutiny. They most certainly were not ‘social welfare’ groups which was required for tax exempt status. They were political organizations and as such did not deserve such status.

    Shame on you for continuing the lie that President Obama used the IRS to target Tea Party groups when you know they did not.

    • k962

      Really is that why Lois Lerner took the 5th when questioned by Issa? Is that why she cleared out and took her government pension with her? Tell your tripe to the low info crowd, it doesn’t wash here!

      • Javafutter

        You mean Lois Lerner who was appointed to her position by George Bush? Maybe she decided to release the story to jab at Obama. I don’t know. But she wasn’t a liberal or a Democratic appointment. So you tell me.

      • k962

        You mean the same Lois Lerner who is married to Robert Miles who has strong connections to Obama! He organized voter registration drives for Obama in 2012! Think Lois voted for Romney? Yeah sure she is a Republican! LOL!

    • Stimpy

      You win the prize for the most ignorant, most deceitful liberal extremist post I’ve ever seen.

      • Javafutter

        Insult me all you want. Here are the facts:

        WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A U.S. Internal Revenue Service manager, who described himself as a conservative Republican, told congressional investigators that he and a local colleague decided to give conservative groups the extra scrutiny that has prompted weeks of political controversy.

        In an official interview transcript released on Sunday by Democratic Representative Elijah Cummings, the manager said he and an underling set aside “Tea Party” and “patriot” groups that had applied for tax-exempt status because the organizations appeared to pose a new precedent that could affect future IRS filings.

        It was an unidentified Cincinnati IRS worker who reported to the manager, identified as John Shafer by committee aides, who identified the first Tea Party case. That individual has not been interviewed by the committee yet.

        Investigators asked Shafer if he believed the decision to centralize the screening of Tea Party applications was intended to target “the president’s political enemies.”

        “I do not believe that the screening of these cases had anything to do, other than consistency and identifying issues that needed to have further development,” the manager answered, according to a transcript released by Cummings.

        • Javafutter

          Issa refused to release this when he made his unfounded accusations about the President. As I said, he should be investigated for ethical violations and removed from this committee.

          • begbie

            In the meantime, a very important election was coming up. Fine time for the IRS to take a fresh look at their practices. You do realize that this information came from Elijah Cummings? Oh, that’s totally legit….nothing to see here.

          • Javafutter

            The information came from sworn testimony that Issa refused to release after he released his lies.

          • Javafutter

            And besides, there is not one scintilla of evidence that these investigations came from an Obama order. Not one sliver of evidence. Nothing. Nada.

            Just a false accusation by a crooked Congressman whose sole purpose is to release partial testimony and lies to try to make Obama look dirty.

            Again Issa should be investigated for ethical violations and taken off this committee.

          • Javafutter

            And tell me again why Tea Party political groups deserve the tax free status anyway? They are clearly not ‘social welfare’ organizations. They are political organizations.

          • Rarin Togo

            You tell us why Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson deserve a “tax exempt status?”

        • nickshaw

          So, you’re telling us that a low level manager who self identifies as a conservative thought it was worth taking a look at these applications?
          Know what?
          I say, Yay! Of course some things need a closer look!
          Scams exist on both sides of the political spectrum!
          Note that he put his partisanship aside to come to his conclusion.
          It’s what happened after that that is the real story though, isn’t it?
          Now, tell me about the charitable works of the OFA that gave them tax exempt status in a matter of moments!

        • Mark Cragin

          All we need to know is in the last sentence: “… a transcript released by Elijah Cummings.”

          The same Elijah Cummings who has thrown bricks in front of the investigation taxi at every turn? Oh yeah, there’s an unbiased, reliable source …

    • begbie

      You are not as informed as you think you are. The Tea Party groups were delayed way to long as compared to other groups looking for the same exempt status. That is simply a fact. Why the delay if not for a purposeful effort to delay? You’re just not being honest with your argument.

    • Reese

      You hit the nail on the head my friend!

    • ceastonoh

      Yeah! Why should Issa be allowed to lie over such a long period of time when you can do the jib right here in under a minute?
      I hate the anger expressed by both sides but when someone as devoid of the facts as you comes along and exposes your shortcomings, it scares the bejeebers out of me to think that this is a guy who conceivably cancels out an intelligent voter.

  • Brian_Bayless

    And Bush targeted those he was opposed to in regards to the IRS and that didnt get much media play either. Wouldnt that mean IRS scandals are just not popular among the big, bad mainstream media then?

    Also, ask the family of the person that died when there was inadequate space for EMT’s to operate if it isnt a big deal.

    Fox News downplaying this doesnt make them great, either. Just makes them not wanting to shine a bad light on the political party they favor.

    Garbage article, Bernie. I expect better from you.

    • k962

      Her own family said she didn’t die because of the traffic jam! More bogus crapola from the left!

      • Brian_Bayless

        Neither did I. The point being, there was inadequate space for emergency vehicles because of what was ordered.

        • begbie

          Are you sure you didn’t type that? It really looks like you did.

        • nickshaw

          But, you did. You imply a direct correlation with this, ” ask the family of the person that died when there was inadequate space for EMT’s to operate”.
          Waffling and misdirection, a prog trait.

        • k962

          Happen’s everyday on the GW! Same thing happens everytime somebody blows a tire on the bridge!

        • Patrick H

          Oh really? You said “Also, ask the family of the person that died when there was inadequate space for EMT’s to operate if it isnt a big deal.” Why bring that up at all if you weren’t trying to blame the traffic jam on the woman dying?

    • Patrick H

      “And Bush targeted those he was opposed to in regards to the IRS” Are you sure about that? You might want to check this: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/06/jim-mcdermott/irs-targeted-liberal-groups-bush-years-jim-mcdermo/

  • John H

    I agree that this is not nearly as big as the IRS scandal or certainly Benghazi. But let’s not forget that a woman died her, a fact that Bernie leaves out. And that should tarnish Gov. Christie a lot!

    • k962

      see above!!

    • Stimpy

      Not if, as he claims, he wasn’t involved. Only if it turns out to be a cover-up will anyone but libs write off Christie.

      • Rarin Togo

        Didn’t you hear him say: regardless of what information comes out, I did not know anything about this!

    • nickshaw

      She DID NOT die because of a traffic jam!
      Please.
      Try to keep up!

  • Florida Jim

    This is what the lamestream media has done for decades the republicans must be perfect and the democrats be …well democrats womanizers, liars,frauds, race-baiters a few that come quickly to mind. This a problem but not in the realm of Fast & furious, Benghazi, IRS, GSA,DOJ HHs and so many other left to smell up the Obama white house. Except to the sleazy media progressive pimps.

  • sjangers

    What Christie’s staff did was wrong. Period. If Christie had any role in directing their behavior, even by failing to effectively direct their behavior, then it reflects very poorly on him as a politician and a manager.

    But the real scandal here is the one you’re pointing at, Bernie. How any employee of the mainstream media outlets can claim that they help to maintain an informed electorate defies reason. Much of what they choose to report, and how they report it, actually ends up contributing to a very ill-informed electorate.

    If we didn’t have information outlets like Fox News to show us the other side, and you to show us both sides, I really don’t know where we’d end up in the next few years. When government, or one party of government, effectively controls public access to information critical to governing our society, we can’t hope to remain a free society for long.

  • firstofall

    Kudos Bernie!! The only thing I could possibly think of to embellish the ridiculousness of the situation you write about would be to add a traffic jam “into New York City”.

    • begbie

      NEW YORK CITY!?! Get a rope…..

  • RickonhisHarleyJohnson

    I’m glad they went after Christie over the lane closures. You’re right, though. They never go after Obama, or it’s tepid at best. Fox News, of course, is the exception.

    • Javafutter

      You must not watch “60 Minutes”. They went after Obama hard on Benghazi. One problem though. Their main ‘witness’ was lying through his teeth. Just as Issa did with both the Benghazi and IRS investigations.

      • begbie

        I know I don’t watch 60 minutes. LOL

      • Patrick H

        Yeah, only after more than a year and yes the witness was lying, but that doesn’t necessarily negate the Republicans’ assertions.

  • ted

    Christie is probably not finished as Killary’s opposition yet. But will be. Let there be no doubt that Kill and Killary Klinton have learned their dirty tricks were chickenfeed; Obama has shown them the light. They and the media, etc. will crush Christie if they see him picking his nose. (And he would have made a great, non-partisan president for ALL of us.)

  • ted

    The sad, really sad, consequences are: there is a new low for success in politics. 1. Lie 2. Use all the assets and power of the United States government to destroy any and all potential Democratic (now) opponents and those who disagree with its belief system, including the Justice Department and IRS 3. It works. Obama won. Progressive/Socialist/Democrats won. America and most American citizens lost. Can it change? NO. Republicans morally cannot drop sooooo low. And the educational, entertainment, and media industries overtly take the side of the tax, spend and micromanage and oppressively regulate central control.
    They have and will continue to WIN.

  • Drosack

    Yeah, when? You POS liberals.

  • trailbee

    It’s the overall issue that is so interesting: Christie v Obama v Clinton. And I thought January was going to be dull.

  • John Colburn

    As far as the IRS goes, I don’t see much of an issue there. There is a lot of abuse of non-profits and tax exemption, and they have to do their job to try to minimize that abuse.

    • Stimpy

      Huh? Only tea party / republican organizations were abused – i.e. opponents of the Messiah. Did you miss that part in the news?

      • Rarin Togo

        Read my lipstick: If the President of the United Sates targets even one citizen of the United States and uses a government agency to do so; it is a federal crime, punishable by law.

        • MontanaMade

          that will NEVER, EVER happen!! not to Obama anyway…

      • John Colburn

        Liberal groups were also targeted at a lesser rate. We can go back and forth on this forever, but I would urge those wishing to know more to visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_IRS_scandal

        • begbie

          Wiki? LOL Thanks, Michael Scott – Regional Manager, Dunder Mifflin!

          • John Colburn

            Wiki doesn’t have to be trusted at face value. At the bottom of the article there are a goodly number of “notes” as well as links for further reading.

        • Jeff Webb

          >>Liberal groups were also targeted at a lesser rate<<

          A FAR lesser rate. And unlike the conservative groups, they were cleared shortly after.

    • Rarin Togo

      When a POTUS targets any citizen of the U.S. through a government agency it is a federal crime.

    • begbie

      I don’t just see an issue, I see a crime. And I don’t need to be a constitutional lawyer to see it.

  • hillery70

    OWS and the antiwar groups blocked bridge traffic and there was no National Media outrage.

    I am not excusing what Christie’s team did. Blocking a bridge can lead to serious consequences.

    ***OWS shut down the Brooklyn Bridge in NY. OWS shut down the University Bridge in Seattle, just down the street from the University of Washington Medical Center. Antiwar protestors shut down I-5 in Seattle, stopping aid cars route to Harborview Medical Center, a Trauma 1 center.

    • Brian_Bayless

      Because the bridge in NJ is one of the heaviest in terms of traffic in the entire country

    • Rarin Togo

      Do not attempt to minimize an obvious abuse of power by any government official.
      It is completely different for OWS or Muslim worshippers to shut down a city, than for an elected by the taxpayer, government employee to do so.

      • hillery70

        Get back to me when the T-party blocks a bridge with needed access to a Trauma 1 medical center and the national press goes ballistic.

        If I am rushing a loved one to get emergence care and the access is blocked, am I going to say, oh, no problem, it is just the OWS, not a govt. official.

        BTW, I stated I am not excusing what Christie’s staff member did.

  • woulddragon

    And this comes as a surprise? The only thing that I found more surprising was how many CONSEVATIVES started to dog pile onto Governor Christie.

    • begbie

      Because it’s wrong.

    • Rarin Togo

      What part of the citizenry has had it, with congress and government employee’s abuse. They are paid with our hard earned tax dollars. They are accountable to us.

    • nickshaw

      Why would you find that surprising?
      Just because Dims don’t police their own, you don’t expect the other side to do so?
      As Begbie says, “It’s wrong.”
      Anyone should find it so.

  • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

    … and I’ll start working on a different topic for my next column now. lol. You beat me to it, Bernie! ;)

    • begbie

      No! Please opine accordingly. I enjoy your posts, John.

    • Bernie

      proceed with your take on it John. The more the merrier.

  • begbie

    Bernie, the email from your friend leaves me with not much else to say about the coverage….simply unbelievable.

    But regarding the Christie traffic debacle directly, I would say it’s almost impossible the Governor didn’t know what was going on, so it IS necessary to investigate this willingness to abuse his office. Just as I always said it was necessary to investigate all the craziness that came out of the White House.

  • http://www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com/ JLM

    .
    There is stupid and there is corrupt.

    Christie’s people have been stupid. They were identified, held accountable and punished.

    Obama’s people have been corrupt. They have not been identified, held accountable or punished.

    Therein lies all the difference.

    JLM
    .

    • begbie

      Good post…..but were the right people fired, and were there enough people fired? Maybe and maybe.

      Obama? No and no.

      • http://www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com/ JLM

        If the NJ Big Boy is going to run for President then he needs a Presidential quality staff.

        This political retaliation stuff — which clearly comes directly from BB — is small ball. Not ready for prime time crap.

        Clean. House. Big. Boy.

        JLM
        .

    • Brian_Bayless

      Stupid is leaving a paper trail so you can get caught and corrupt is abusing your power for your own gain. Both happened with Christie

      • Stimpy

        Christie gained from this episode? No way. There was no point to it and nothing but downside. This was a Chicago style dirty trick that benefited no one but the slobbering liberal media who might have to now change their underwear.

        • Brian_Bayless

          What are you talking about?

          • Patrick H

            What are you talking about? Christie fired the people responsible and said he was sorry and the two words that you NEVER ever hear from a politician: “I’m responsible”.

    • Rarin Togo

      I found Christie’s statements yesterday, to be very inconsistent. His glib denial did not pass muster.

      • http://www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com/ JLM

        .
        I thought firing someone was quite convincing.

        All the scandals in DC and NOBODY has been fired.

        JLM
        .

  • Seattle Sam

    Imagine that Christie had said he would look into it and “bring to justice” those responsible. And more than a year later absolutely nothing had been done. Imagine Christie had said “What difference does it make?”