Bernie, your thoughts: Why very many Trump supporters, I imagine, particularly professional and financially secure, espouse character as a high personal value and yet would never hire anyone with Trump’s character?
Hey T ... because they're weak. They like being in Congress. They like the status they think their titles bestow (even though serial killers have higher approval ratings that Members of Congress.) They know if they speak out against their dear leader, he will threaten to primary them -- and actually do it, as he has in the past. On top of that, they don't want to be called childish names. You're right ... they wouldn't hire anyone with Trump's character. But that's an academic point. They're not hiring. They're hanging on. Profiles ... in cowardice.
Hypocrisy. Pete Hegseth is a close second. The President did some very good policy changes and border control enforcement, then wham! Off the deep end, an offensive mouth with no filter is childish, even pathological emotional immaturity; it's a very bad look.
Well described Bernie. A despicable and totally unnecessary blabbering. However, you can't pant brush all Trump supporters as not loving America. That's as wrong as Trump was.
That certainly wasn't my intention. I'm talking about the Always-Trumpers, the MAGA folks who worship Trump ... and put him ahead of country ... because they believe that anything that Trump does is good for the country.
I've read of this happening in history, the worshipping of a leader, and it never ended well. They ( the leader) literally goes off the deep- end mentally and emotionally until they do something so outlandish and so eccentric that folks start to question , but by then the damage has been done. I saw this coming, this trainwreck. It's still not too late to calm it.
I've been completely skeptical since Jan, seriously thinking the President was headed on this projectory, my women's intuition and discernment told me it would be dicey before the year was up, and Bingo!
Sharon, I don't disagree. But would we really be better off if Trump were to go away tomorrow? He is getting a bunch of stuff that needs fixing, fixed. But it's not pretty nor easy. Nobody in my circle of Trump voters likes how he's doing things. But every one recognizes that there have been seriously good improvements. Thanks for your note.
John, I'd add: Bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities; stopping or slowing down wars; getting us out of WHO; attacking sources of illegal drugs; reclaiming a world prominence; NATO realities.
I agree his use of the DOJ is wrong. If you recall Pelosi and her crew spent more than four years not only using the DOJ similarly but inventing facts. , Two wrongs don't make a right obviously but having once been treated similarly I can understand his animosity.
I also agree re: Hegeseth and RFK....both about a 5 on the scale of 1-10. Any resulting added risk however is more speculative than obvious.
A fundamental issue for me is that Trump's "economy" is on the macro scale, with that taking time to materialize. Meanwhile you and I have to deal with rising prices and fallout of Trump's tariff policies. Which if he doesn't fix soon will cost him big time this November. But I don't think he cares. He will still be president and will veto anything he doss like not like.
I think you are being way too generous on Hegseth and RFK. I think both of them are 1 on your scale. One is completely incompetent and the other is doing a lot of damage to our health care which will take a long time to reverse.
Eric, time may prove you 100% correct. You may hold a position that allows you to be a much better judge than me. My 85 years worth of wisdom however suggests your assessments now are swayed by opinion and speculation.
Yes, I forgot to put the Iranian attack on my "pro" list. I completely agree on that one.
I think you can point to direct things RFK Jr and Hegeseth have done that hurt the organizations they lead, specifically firing people with many years of knowledge and experience because they didn't sufficiently "tow the line".
I agree that Trump doesn't care. It's obvious he doesn't understand what tariffs actually are, since he continues to claim that we are getting rich from other countries pouring money into our treasury. He lives in his own bubble, and no one can tell him anything.
You make very valid points, where do we draw the line though? Three wrongs and two rights? We are sacrificing morals at any cost in our beliefs nowadays.
Absolutely, there is improvements, and much needed. The point is Pres Trump is countering all that with terrible behaviour and verbal assault that are off the chart. He now exhibits serious irrational behaviour, and it's escalating into the pathological realm. Sleep deprivation will do serious mental harm, and it shows with our President. I'm very concerned.
Sharon, I don't disagree. But where the line is, is not for you and I to determine. There are constitutional methodologies to deal with such issues. Pragmatically speaking though, I suggest that wrongs gone too far wrong in any system will eventually self correct. At the same time, it's possible that too much is being made of the behaviour issue. Sticks and stones.....comes to mind. Thanks for your note. Have a Merry Christmas.
These next twelve months will be most revealing - will our President become his own worst enemy? Don't know. You as well have a Merry Christmas. Let's pray for the best outcome for all concerned. That is my New Year wish.
Behaviour amongst leaders is certainly a big deal and a big influence on how they are viewed and how folks react to that behaviour. Leaders need to set an example and behave professionally and in control especially when in the public eye. Strong character flaws inhibit a leaders greatness and shows weakness on their part.
No, leaders need to lead.. Leading is not a personality contest. Getting things done is first and foremost. Trump is accomplishing that. There is overwhelming evidence to attest to that such as the Ukraine peace process progressing nicely.
Bernie is hell bent on Trump being unfit fit for office. which he can't do anything about regardless. He appears to not truly understand, or say out loud at least, what got Trump elected. Choosing instead that he and his 12,000 subscribers are collectively wiser and more intelligent than the 78 Million people who put Trump in office. And it makes him a decent living which I am tending to believe is his primary motivation. Nothing else makes sense given continuing mashing of Trump and the absence of solutions.
As a collective whole, we DO need to have boundaries, to determine a “line” of what is acceptable and tolerable, otherwise we will keep moving the goal posts and rewarding bad behaviour, or at least ignoring it , and is THAT for the better good? I think not.
Yes and no. We need to consider the collateral damage Al, and time is of the essence with this-- self correcting? That is a loose term and not reliable nor even responsible thinking to just "let the chips fall" where they may, and that is an unpredictable outcome of all magnitude. My opinion.
It's not clear to me why you think time is of the essence. But what you are hinting at Sharon is not a good idea. Pragmatically we are limited to elections. Anything else is directly opposite of the foundation of our Republic. Using what the Republic allows is what is available to us. Trump's abhorrent behavior does not rise to the level of revolt as did the situation that ultimately created our Republic. Storms never last. Patience is a winner.
Grip lost. Everyone I follow on the right called out this garbage. I was no fan of Meathead's politics but I weep for him and his loved ones. And he was very gracious on a Piers Morgan interview after the Charlie Kirk murder.
Did the speaker of the House condemn what Trump said on Truth Social? How about the majority leader in the Senate. What about the geniuses on Fox (not to mention Newsmax or OAN?
Speaker Mike Johnson is a "yes" man and the biggest "putz" of them all. He knows he'd be out in a heartbeat if he dared to criticize or even hint of a critical remark with no backbone. Then again, what choice does he have if he wants to keep his job?
Speaker Johnson is the biggest butt kisser out of the bunch. He'd be long gone if he wasn't. He has zero backbone to stand up for morality. A phoney Christian.
So it turns out the affable Mr. meathead was a little bit more than your run of the mill Trump hating lefty with a bunch of bad ideas. He was a major player in the Dem party. In 2017 he co-founded a committee to investigate Russian collusion … alongside Brennan and Clapper. So he was actively involved in undermining Trump1 and impacting the 2020 election (truth be damned). Four years of perpetuating the Russian hoax. There’s a hard to find video of Reiner interviewing Brennan and Clapper and it sure looks like Reiner was in charge. Meathead was entrenched at the highest levels of the Dem party to bring down Trump ... so yeh he didn't send flowers.
Ouch John! No rationale. Trump's response was garbage and Reiner's death was tragic and horrific. My comments were about RR and his deep Dem ties and influence (which was news to me). Perhaps Trump could have said "even though RR called me a Nazi and Hitler and a dictator at every turn and collaborated to bring down my presidency his death was tragic and may he rest in peace ... oh and PS I protect the Jewish state and all Jewish people unlike my predecessor who funded the terrorists trying to destroy them". Or maybe just "RIP". But we know he's not capable. Peace.
If that wasn't an attempted rationalization, I apologize. It seemed to me like it was.
Trump, of course, didn't need to offer any statement on Reiner's passing. And if someone asked him about it, it would have been incredibly easy to just say, "It was a terrible tragedy." But Trump's a deranged child, so...
I will say that the panel at the end of Bret B's show all disavowed Trump's comments. And Jesse W to his credit did not stick up for Trump on The Five in the segment about Reiner. It's true he didn't condemn him, but he didn't back him as usual. I can't say that about Greg G though who unfortunately did seem to give Trump a pass. He trotted out his usual follow Trump's deeds and not his words. I'll also state that several Republicans did brush back Trump on his comments. Maybe not a majority, but more than usual I would say. One of those who did condemn was MTG who now seems to be one of Trump's bigger critics since following out of favor with him. So there is some progress of Republicans pushing back. This follows on the heels of Indiana Republicans not going along with Trump on redistricting.
"You can’t claim to love America and cheer for a man who despises everything that makes it decent. That’s not patriotism. That’s a cult."
Absolutely Bernie. On the way home from the office I caught a few minutes of Joe Pags and he ripped Trump. Hopefully more media commentators on the Republican side will come out and condemn Trump.
Trump reminds me of the line by comedian Ron White: "I had the right to remain silent, but not the ability." As a Trump voter (but not a Trump fan), I am beyond exasperated in his inability to SHUT THE EFF UP!!! If you don't have a gracious heart, then keep it to yourself. Additionally, Trump's best campaign line was, "Kamala is for they/them. Trump is for you." Well, apparently not. Trump is for himself.
Trump is way too concerned with his " legacy" and has been gaslighting us as of late over the economy in attempts to achieve a big, beautiful legacy. So selfish.
Mature adults display magnanimity on such occasions regardless of what others do or have done. Trump repeatedly displays his self-serving, recklessly impulsive and childish nature because that is his core being. Perhaps the worst part is that people with personality defects like Trump can't be fixed, get worse with age and continue to see themselves as freekin' awesome!
Again, sleep deprivation will exasperate any mental health issue, that's why we are seeing marked impulsivity, no mouth filter, even some paranoia which is really concerning. Where does this all end? How worse will this get? Will he crash and burn? Scarey.
Awful comments, and fortunately he is out after this term.
Every time I see the increased unvetted Islamic presence in Europe, the southern border under control, the moves away from DEI, the efforts to get the male out of the girls' locker room, the recognition of there being two genders, and not two hundred, I see how Trump got back to the White House. It is a shame the Dems have so totally lost their way, we don't have the likes of Moynihan or Barbara Jordan to call for sanity.
I voted for Trump for that very reason. All the Dems had to do was NOT go off the rails and avoid the insanity of the woke left. Anytime I try to explain that to my liberal associates, they get annoyed and say all the crazy nonsense Trump does but then they go on and on against legitimate concerns that the right has, and then of course the left starts with the usual accusations of “racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, Transphobia , xenophobia” and every other leftist talking point that has (thankfully) been Dying for the last ten years.
I think it’s pretty simple —-if right wingers were angry about leftist responses to the Charlie Kirk assassination then those same conservatives should also be equally outraged by Trump’s hateful rhetoric about Rob Reiner. And YES, any left wingers who celebrated and mocked Charlie Kirk’s death have ZERO right to be angry over Trump’s asinine remarks. Thankfully people like Bill Maher & Cenk Uyger loudly condemned those wicked left wingers for their hateful rhetoric. Let’s have MORE conservatives condemn Trump’s equally nasty remarks!
My concern is two things: he feels justified to act and speak this way, and secondly, he truly does not accept or is even aware he does this. That is a diminished reality, not a clear truthful reality. He will be his own worst enemy, sadly.
I was trying to add context (about Reiner's connectedness) ... but my comments were over the top. Bernie's right ... he's lost his grip (and I think I'm losing mine). JD can't get here fast enough.
Again, Hegseth is another one. He impliments a few good policies, like revamping the Chaplains Corp., and wham, he calls for tactics so questionable, maybe illegal even,and controversial at the very least. This is not leadership. NOT smart leadership, anyway.
I agree. There's no excuse. I recall LBJ using the n word and Biden's many racist remarks. This however, is unspeakable and I could have written a better speech. I rarely support or listen to what Trump says, I only examine what Presidential actions he may take. Like Biden's 'handlers' Trump needs a leash, or at least duct tape
Bernie, what about all those voters like this who support Trump outside of the Congress? People whom you and I would likely know and most everyone knows.
As I've said before, one very positive aspect of President Trump is that he has exposed those who are the truly principled conservatives (HINT: not many) or, at least, truly principled Republicans, on the one hand, and, on the other hand, those who will trash their supposed principles to remain in office or to rake in the bucks in the right-wing media.
Wow, Trump's remarks does call for a harsh counter punch Bernie, and you were gracious, honest,and to the point. I was so gob-smacked by Pres Trump's verbiage, but not at all surprised. He is going over the dam and drowning himself as of late. How long can this go on? Seriously, how long? The fact the Pres doesn't recognize his bizarre behavior is more concerning than what he is actually spewing out.
Bernie, your thoughts: Why very many Trump supporters, I imagine, particularly professional and financially secure, espouse character as a high personal value and yet would never hire anyone with Trump’s character?
Hey T ... because they're weak. They like being in Congress. They like the status they think their titles bestow (even though serial killers have higher approval ratings that Members of Congress.) They know if they speak out against their dear leader, he will threaten to primary them -- and actually do it, as he has in the past. On top of that, they don't want to be called childish names. You're right ... they wouldn't hire anyone with Trump's character. But that's an academic point. They're not hiring. They're hanging on. Profiles ... in cowardice.
Hypocrisy. Pete Hegseth is a close second. The President did some very good policy changes and border control enforcement, then wham! Off the deep end, an offensive mouth with no filter is childish, even pathological emotional immaturity; it's a very bad look.
Bingo, Sharon. Bing-OH!
Well described Bernie. A despicable and totally unnecessary blabbering. However, you can't pant brush all Trump supporters as not loving America. That's as wrong as Trump was.
That certainly wasn't my intention. I'm talking about the Always-Trumpers, the MAGA folks who worship Trump ... and put him ahead of country ... because they believe that anything that Trump does is good for the country.
I've read of this happening in history, the worshipping of a leader, and it never ended well. They ( the leader) literally goes off the deep- end mentally and emotionally until they do something so outlandish and so eccentric that folks start to question , but by then the damage has been done. I saw this coming, this trainwreck. It's still not too late to calm it.
I've been completely skeptical since Jan, seriously thinking the President was headed on this projectory, my women's intuition and discernment told me it would be dicey before the year was up, and Bingo!
Sharon, I don't disagree. But would we really be better off if Trump were to go away tomorrow? He is getting a bunch of stuff that needs fixing, fixed. But it's not pretty nor easy. Nobody in my circle of Trump voters likes how he's doing things. But every one recognizes that there have been seriously good improvements. Thanks for your note.
Al, just curious, what would you list as unqualified wins for Trump so far this year. To be fair, I can think of a few:
1. Ceasefire in Israel/Gaza
2. Stock market continues to do well, despite the tariffs
3. Halting of DEI programs in corporate and academic institutions
4. Reduction of illegals entering the country
But compare these wins to the negatives, such as:
1. Using the DOJ as he personal goon squad to seek revenge on those whom he has perceived as wronging him.
2. Blackmailing companies, universities, countries to push his maga agenda
3. Pardoning criminals, including drug dealers
4. Disrupting the global economy with an economically illiterate tariff policy.
5. Siding with Russia in its invasion of Ukraine.
6. Putting grossly incompetent people (e.g. Hegeseth, RFK Jr.) in charge of vitally important goverment agencies, putting all Americans at risk.
....
John, I'd add: Bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities; stopping or slowing down wars; getting us out of WHO; attacking sources of illegal drugs; reclaiming a world prominence; NATO realities.
I agree his use of the DOJ is wrong. If you recall Pelosi and her crew spent more than four years not only using the DOJ similarly but inventing facts. , Two wrongs don't make a right obviously but having once been treated similarly I can understand his animosity.
I also agree re: Hegeseth and RFK....both about a 5 on the scale of 1-10. Any resulting added risk however is more speculative than obvious.
A fundamental issue for me is that Trump's "economy" is on the macro scale, with that taking time to materialize. Meanwhile you and I have to deal with rising prices and fallout of Trump's tariff policies. Which if he doesn't fix soon will cost him big time this November. But I don't think he cares. He will still be president and will veto anything he doss like not like.
Thanks for the note. Enjoyed the conversation.
I think you are being way too generous on Hegseth and RFK. I think both of them are 1 on your scale. One is completely incompetent and the other is doing a lot of damage to our health care which will take a long time to reverse.
Eric, time may prove you 100% correct. You may hold a position that allows you to be a much better judge than me. My 85 years worth of wisdom however suggests your assessments now are swayed by opinion and speculation.
Yes, I forgot to put the Iranian attack on my "pro" list. I completely agree on that one.
I think you can point to direct things RFK Jr and Hegeseth have done that hurt the organizations they lead, specifically firing people with many years of knowledge and experience because they didn't sufficiently "tow the line".
I agree that Trump doesn't care. It's obvious he doesn't understand what tariffs actually are, since he continues to claim that we are getting rich from other countries pouring money into our treasury. He lives in his own bubble, and no one can tell him anything.
You make very valid points, where do we draw the line though? Three wrongs and two rights? We are sacrificing morals at any cost in our beliefs nowadays.
Absolutely, there is improvements, and much needed. The point is Pres Trump is countering all that with terrible behaviour and verbal assault that are off the chart. He now exhibits serious irrational behaviour, and it's escalating into the pathological realm. Sleep deprivation will do serious mental harm, and it shows with our President. I'm very concerned.
Sharon, I don't disagree. But where the line is, is not for you and I to determine. There are constitutional methodologies to deal with such issues. Pragmatically speaking though, I suggest that wrongs gone too far wrong in any system will eventually self correct. At the same time, it's possible that too much is being made of the behaviour issue. Sticks and stones.....comes to mind. Thanks for your note. Have a Merry Christmas.
These next twelve months will be most revealing - will our President become his own worst enemy? Don't know. You as well have a Merry Christmas. Let's pray for the best outcome for all concerned. That is my New Year wish.
i agree with your prayer and thank you for the Merry Christmas thought.
Behaviour amongst leaders is certainly a big deal and a big influence on how they are viewed and how folks react to that behaviour. Leaders need to set an example and behave professionally and in control especially when in the public eye. Strong character flaws inhibit a leaders greatness and shows weakness on their part.
No, leaders need to lead.. Leading is not a personality contest. Getting things done is first and foremost. Trump is accomplishing that. There is overwhelming evidence to attest to that such as the Ukraine peace process progressing nicely.
Bernie is hell bent on Trump being unfit fit for office. which he can't do anything about regardless. He appears to not truly understand, or say out loud at least, what got Trump elected. Choosing instead that he and his 12,000 subscribers are collectively wiser and more intelligent than the 78 Million people who put Trump in office. And it makes him a decent living which I am tending to believe is his primary motivation. Nothing else makes sense given continuing mashing of Trump and the absence of solutions.
As a collective whole, we DO need to have boundaries, to determine a “line” of what is acceptable and tolerable, otherwise we will keep moving the goal posts and rewarding bad behaviour, or at least ignoring it , and is THAT for the better good? I think not.
Yes and no. We need to consider the collateral damage Al, and time is of the essence with this-- self correcting? That is a loose term and not reliable nor even responsible thinking to just "let the chips fall" where they may, and that is an unpredictable outcome of all magnitude. My opinion.
It's not clear to me why you think time is of the essence. But what you are hinting at Sharon is not a good idea. Pragmatically we are limited to elections. Anything else is directly opposite of the foundation of our Republic. Using what the Republic allows is what is available to us. Trump's abhorrent behavior does not rise to the level of revolt as did the situation that ultimately created our Republic. Storms never last. Patience is a winner.
Our Republic will survive.... if we let it.
Grip lost. Everyone I follow on the right called out this garbage. I was no fan of Meathead's politics but I weep for him and his loved ones. And he was very gracious on a Piers Morgan interview after the Charlie Kirk murder.
Did the speaker of the House condemn what Trump said on Truth Social? How about the majority leader in the Senate. What about the geniuses on Fox (not to mention Newsmax or OAN?
This is why NewsNation is growing in popularity as they will point out and give praise when it's due, and they will call out the bad and ugly as well.
Speaker Mike Johnson is a "yes" man and the biggest "putz" of them all. He knows he'd be out in a heartbeat if he dared to criticize or even hint of a critical remark with no backbone. Then again, what choice does he have if he wants to keep his job?
Speaker Johnson is the biggest butt kisser out of the bunch. He'd be long gone if he wasn't. He has zero backbone to stand up for morality. A phoney Christian.
So it turns out the affable Mr. meathead was a little bit more than your run of the mill Trump hating lefty with a bunch of bad ideas. He was a major player in the Dem party. In 2017 he co-founded a committee to investigate Russian collusion … alongside Brennan and Clapper. So he was actively involved in undermining Trump1 and impacting the 2020 election (truth be damned). Four years of perpetuating the Russian hoax. There’s a hard to find video of Reiner interviewing Brennan and Clapper and it sure looks like Reiner was in charge. Meathead was entrenched at the highest levels of the Dem party to bring down Trump ... so yeh he didn't send flowers.
This is the same basic rationale used by the lefties who mocked Charlie Kirk's murder.
Ouch John! No rationale. Trump's response was garbage and Reiner's death was tragic and horrific. My comments were about RR and his deep Dem ties and influence (which was news to me). Perhaps Trump could have said "even though RR called me a Nazi and Hitler and a dictator at every turn and collaborated to bring down my presidency his death was tragic and may he rest in peace ... oh and PS I protect the Jewish state and all Jewish people unlike my predecessor who funded the terrorists trying to destroy them". Or maybe just "RIP". But we know he's not capable. Peace.
If that wasn't an attempted rationalization, I apologize. It seemed to me like it was.
Trump, of course, didn't need to offer any statement on Reiner's passing. And if someone asked him about it, it would have been incredibly easy to just say, "It was a terrible tragedy." But Trump's a deranged child, so...
I will say that the panel at the end of Bret B's show all disavowed Trump's comments. And Jesse W to his credit did not stick up for Trump on The Five in the segment about Reiner. It's true he didn't condemn him, but he didn't back him as usual. I can't say that about Greg G though who unfortunately did seem to give Trump a pass. He trotted out his usual follow Trump's deeds and not his words. I'll also state that several Republicans did brush back Trump on his comments. Maybe not a majority, but more than usual I would say. One of those who did condemn was MTG who now seems to be one of Trump's bigger critics since following out of favor with him. So there is some progress of Republicans pushing back. This follows on the heels of Indiana Republicans not going along with Trump on redistricting.
"You can’t claim to love America and cheer for a man who despises everything that makes it decent. That’s not patriotism. That’s a cult."
Absolutely Bernie. On the way home from the office I caught a few minutes of Joe Pags and he ripped Trump. Hopefully more media commentators on the Republican side will come out and condemn Trump.
Tim, my friend ... don't hold your breath.
Trump reminds me of the line by comedian Ron White: "I had the right to remain silent, but not the ability." As a Trump voter (but not a Trump fan), I am beyond exasperated in his inability to SHUT THE EFF UP!!! If you don't have a gracious heart, then keep it to yourself. Additionally, Trump's best campaign line was, "Kamala is for they/them. Trump is for you." Well, apparently not. Trump is for himself.
Hey Steve ... once again, you hit it out of the park. "Trump is for himself." That sums everything up.
Trump is way too concerned with his " legacy" and has been gaslighting us as of late over the economy in attempts to achieve a big, beautiful legacy. So selfish.
Mature adults display magnanimity on such occasions regardless of what others do or have done. Trump repeatedly displays his self-serving, recklessly impulsive and childish nature because that is his core being. Perhaps the worst part is that people with personality defects like Trump can't be fixed, get worse with age and continue to see themselves as freekin' awesome!
I'm with you Scott. You nailed it.
Again, sleep deprivation will exasperate any mental health issue, that's why we are seeing marked impulsivity, no mouth filter, even some paranoia which is really concerning. Where does this all end? How worse will this get? Will he crash and burn? Scarey.
Awful comments, and fortunately he is out after this term.
Every time I see the increased unvetted Islamic presence in Europe, the southern border under control, the moves away from DEI, the efforts to get the male out of the girls' locker room, the recognition of there being two genders, and not two hundred, I see how Trump got back to the White House. It is a shame the Dems have so totally lost their way, we don't have the likes of Moynihan or Barbara Jordan to call for sanity.
I voted for Trump for that very reason. All the Dems had to do was NOT go off the rails and avoid the insanity of the woke left. Anytime I try to explain that to my liberal associates, they get annoyed and say all the crazy nonsense Trump does but then they go on and on against legitimate concerns that the right has, and then of course the left starts with the usual accusations of “racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, Transphobia , xenophobia” and every other leftist talking point that has (thankfully) been Dying for the last ten years.
I think it’s pretty simple —-if right wingers were angry about leftist responses to the Charlie Kirk assassination then those same conservatives should also be equally outraged by Trump’s hateful rhetoric about Rob Reiner. And YES, any left wingers who celebrated and mocked Charlie Kirk’s death have ZERO right to be angry over Trump’s asinine remarks. Thankfully people like Bill Maher & Cenk Uyger loudly condemned those wicked left wingers for their hateful rhetoric. Let’s have MORE conservatives condemn Trump’s equally nasty remarks!
His Utmost Excellency, The Emperor, has spoken !
Anyone who rationalizes or excuses this tirade is a cultist lunatic. It's (long past) time for the 25th Amendment.
My concern is two things: he feels justified to act and speak this way, and secondly, he truly does not accept or is even aware he does this. That is a diminished reality, not a clear truthful reality. He will be his own worst enemy, sadly.
I was trying to add context (about Reiner's connectedness) ... but my comments were over the top. Bernie's right ... he's lost his grip (and I think I'm losing mine). JD can't get here fast enough.
Again, Hegseth is another one. He impliments a few good policies, like revamping the Chaplains Corp., and wham, he calls for tactics so questionable, maybe illegal even,and controversial at the very least. This is not leadership. NOT smart leadership, anyway.
I agree. There's no excuse. I recall LBJ using the n word and Biden's many racist remarks. This however, is unspeakable and I could have written a better speech. I rarely support or listen to what Trump says, I only examine what Presidential actions he may take. Like Biden's 'handlers' Trump needs a leash, or at least duct tape
Bernie, what about all those voters like this who support Trump outside of the Congress? People whom you and I would likely know and most everyone knows.
As I've said before, one very positive aspect of President Trump is that he has exposed those who are the truly principled conservatives (HINT: not many) or, at least, truly principled Republicans, on the one hand, and, on the other hand, those who will trash their supposed principles to remain in office or to rake in the bucks in the right-wing media.
Wow, Trump's remarks does call for a harsh counter punch Bernie, and you were gracious, honest,and to the point. I was so gob-smacked by Pres Trump's verbiage, but not at all surprised. He is going over the dam and drowning himself as of late. How long can this go on? Seriously, how long? The fact the Pres doesn't recognize his bizarre behavior is more concerning than what he is actually spewing out.