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Steve Rogers's avatar

I read Trump's quote last week and just cringed. I know it's classic Trump, and we should be used to it by now, but maybe I'm happy I'm not used to it.

John A. Daly's avatar

You should be happy you're not used to it. I think one has to surrender part of their integrity and character in order to be a-okay, or defensive, of such a thing.

John D McCann's avatar

The easiest thing in the world for Trump would have been to not say anything at all, but he simply cannot help himself. This a deranged person.

Kirsten's avatar

Although I know this is classic Trump. I still have hope that somehow he has some decency—a drop of it. Perhaps when someone dies. it’s very hard for me to look at the news every morning. I cringe every day and while I wouldn’t trade him in for Kamala I do look forward to new blood for Republican candidates— non maga, non war hungry, just normal.

Fair Dinkum Mate's avatar

He is a disgraceful human being.

He has no limit when it comes to being crass, insulting and unstatesmanlike.

Totally unfit to be president.

Binh Duong's avatar

President Trump says aloud what some thinks. You may not agree with everything he says, but he speaks his mind about someone who he considers bad. Didn’t most people celebrated when Hitler died? How about a serial killer or George Soros? When you see an evil person or a bad person dies, it is normal that some people will feel glad that evil or bad person is no longer alive to do more harm. President Trump is flaws just like all other humans. I don’t hate him for what he said. I prefer a President who speaks his mind but loves his country over the typical politicians who speak flowery words (Obama) and ruined our country.

John A. Daly's avatar

Do you think Robert Mueller was evil? Like Hitler, or a serial killer?

Binh Duong's avatar

I don’t know much about Mueller, so I have no opinion. President Trump thinks he is a bad person, so that is why he made that comment. People can disagree with him on that, but it is his opinion.

John A. Daly's avatar

>>I don’t know much about Mueller, so I have no opinion.

But you know that he didn't murder anyone, right?

He was a decorated U.S. war hero who the Trump DOJ assigned to investigate Russian interference in our election. Trump disliked him because that investigation (which was underway before Mueller was ever assigned to it) included looking into allegations that Trump colluded with the Russians — allegations that Mueller effectively cleared him of.

>>President Trump thinks he is a bad person, so that is why he made that comment

I understand that. But that's an explanation, not an excuse. I assume we agree on that?

Binh Duong's avatar

I don’t make excuses for President Trump. I’m simply explaining his right to say how he feels. Yes, we do agree that is not an excuse, but I will not criticize him for his comment. I’m more concerned about his work to better our country than to focus on his various comments. He is who he is, and he will not change at his age; however, I believe he is a good person despite his flaws.

Fair Dinkum Mate's avatar

How's that working out? $4/gallon gas and airport security lines around the block. You are deeply delusional.

The US is being run by a collection of incompetent individuals and the whole world is suffering the consequences.

I’m sitting here in Australia where the petrol prices are about to skyrocket and everything else along with it. Because a significant number of Americans allowed this monumentally inept, impulse-driven lunatic to get back into the White House.

Every brain-fart reverberates around the world because of a portion of your population obsessed with the self indulgent, reductive promise of making America great again. Every person who put a mark next to his name on that ballot paper is complicit, because he had already shown who he is. It is infuriating

Binh Duong's avatar

It’s great since you asked. President Trump is so much better than Biden or Kamalala. Average gas is 50 cent above where it was in January, but still less than when Biden was in office. If you are paying too much for gas, then you should ask your Australia’s leaders. You may not be aware of this, but only delusional folks are constantly “angry” and sad over every President Trump’s comments. Personally, I’m content. I pray you will be cured from TDS.

Dirk Thompson's avatar

Love the Durham reference. Someone needs to go through that report again with ai and connect all the dots in a easily to consume length

John A. Daly's avatar

Yeah, all such reports are insanely long, and a lot of political analysts just focus on the parts that confirm their biases, while ignoring the rest.

Craig Stewart's avatar

So, someone who tried to destroy you, your family, your business, and put you in jail for the remainder of your life under false premises should get glowing compliments at his death? I prefer the truth and not some phony unbelievable statement.

The idiots here who cringe and otherwise make insulting statements should have to endure the same Muller treatment.

John A. Daly's avatar

Mueller was appointed by the head of the Trump DOJ (who Trump himself appointed and the Republican Senate confirmed) to investigate Russian interference in our election, including allegations of collusion (which Mueller ultimately determined lacked credibility).

Explain to me how that translates to Mueller trying to destroy Trump, his family, his business, and put him in jail for the remainder of his life. And why did Trump praise Mueller for doing an honorable job at the end of the investigation? And who was expecting Trump to give Mueller glowing compliments when he died, as opposed to just not publicly celebrating his death?

Craig Stewart's avatar

Trump appointed Jeff Sessions who recused himself which gave Rob Robenstein the job of appointing Mueller.

Mueller took over two years and spent over $30 million using hard core democrat staff members spinning unverified Steele dossier false information in order to lead to impeachment and the following consequences and repercussions.

The Obama DOJ initiated the prob in March 2016 under the name Crossfire Hurricane . Their initial false premise wasted time and money and set the pattern for future ridiculous impeachment attempts on more false accusations.

Having lost at all their illegal fraudulent attempts to damage Trump ,democrats are now hopelessly trapped in Trump Derangement Syndrome where they have the impossible task of proving all things Trump are destroying our democracy ( which is a representative republic)- they can't even get that right.

So, Mueller knowingly sowed the seeds of suspicion in the DOJ which was enhanced by the antics of Comy and fueled by fake news to the point now that the legacy media has no credibility and the DOJ has a lot of work to do to reclaim theirs. Thank you Robert Mueller.

John A. Daly's avatar

>>Trump appointed Jeff Sessions who recused himself which gave Rob Robenstein the job of appointing Mueller.

Trump nominated (and the Republican Senate approved) Jeff Sessions for Attorney General.

Trump then nominated (and the Republican Senate approved) Rod Rosenstein for Deputy Attorney General.

When Sessions properly recused himself from the Russia probe, and Trump fired James Comey (and publicly said it was because of the Russia Probe), Rosenstein was essentially forced to move the investigation from the FBI to a special counsel. He then appointed Mueller (a Republican) to lead it. Mueller's appointment was greeted by Republicans and Democrats alike, because of his stellar reputation.

>>Mueller took over two years and spent over $30 million

Correct. Mueller was tasked with investigating Russian interference in our 2016 election, not simply whether or not Trump colluded with the Russians. Big government investigations take time and cost money.

>>using hard core democrat staff members

What's the difference between a "hard core Democrat" and just a Democrat? Regardless, as I described in 2019, Mueller didn't have the luxury of drafting a politically balanced investigation team: https://www.bernardgoldberg.com/p/a-glance-back-at-the-political-imbalance-of-muellers-team

>>spinning unverified Steele dossier false information

The Steele dossier had nothing to do with Mueller's work.

>>in order to lead to impeachment

Says who? Mueller effectively cleared Trump of collusion charges.

>>The Obama DOJ initiated the prob in March 2016 under the name Crossfire Hurricane.

Crossfire Hurricane was initiated on July 31, 2016, based on a tip from Australian officials about George Papadopoulos saying Russia had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. The Steele Dossier stuff came across months later, had nothing to do with the creation of Crossfire Hurricane, and was discredited.

>>So, Mueller knowingly sowed the seeds of suspicion in the DOJ

Lol, no. There's no evidence of that -- just wide-eyed meme-claims. Mueller is hated by MAGA because Trump hated Mueller (and everyone else who's ever participated in criminal investigation that could have potentially been bad for Trump).

Fair Dinkum Mate's avatar

This has the feel of someone typing angrily on a phone or keyboard.

Probably ripped from some FB or X post. Also doesn't address most of John's questions. Angry bot rant.

Craig Stewart's avatar

Not a bot. But will happily address the questions individually since the general approach was not perceived.

1. The investigation began with Obama's DOJ in March of 2016. Sessions recused himself leading to Robinstein picking Mueller and Mueller picking democrat hacks like Page and Strzok at the top of his team. See their texts to confirm the Mueller approved anti Trump bias.

2. Mueller said the investigation could not prove there was a credible reason to charge Trump, but also that Trump was not exonerated.

What kind of conclusion is that? You can't have two verdicts on the same issue. But that is what Mueller thought he had to do for the fake news.

3. Trump's praise for Mueller is like what he does for his political opponents once he has defeated them and moves on from the battle. He is over it. It is left to the defeated to find a way to forgive and forget.

4. I never asked who are those who wanted Trump to just keep quiet about Mueller's death. Whoever would think Trump would keep quiet or not express his true thoughts? But those are probably the people who don't understand Trump.

John A. Daly's avatar

I responded to most of these stuff in my previous comment. As for the new stuff:

>>Mueller said the investigation could not prove there was a credible reason to charge Trump, but also that Trump was not exonerated. What kind of conclusion is that?

Finding insufficient evidence of something is different than total exoneration. Mueller's framing was in the context of the the scope of his investigation.

>>Trump's praise for Mueller is like what he does for his political opponents once he has defeated them and moves on from the battle.

I can think of literally no examples of what you're describing here. I've seen him do this with people who kissed his butt to get back in his good graces, but Mueller didn't do that. He just did his job.

>>I never asked who are those who wanted Trump to just keep quiet about Mueller's death.

You wrote: "So, someone who tried to destroy you, your family, your business, and put you in jail for the remainder of your life under false premises should get glowing compliments at his death?"

Aside from there being no evidence of Mueller doing any of the things you listed, you presented this "glowing compliments" question to me, as if I was calling for glowing compliments from Trump. I clearly wasn't.

>>Whoever would think Trump would keep quiet or not express his true thoughts?

Beats me. As I said in the piece, what he typed shouldn't have surprised anyone. The man can't control his emotions.

>>But those are probably the people who don't understand Trump.

Again, I'm not sure who you're referring to. I think he's pretty easy to understand.